From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #484 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Saturday, October 6 2001 Volume 02 : Number 484 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 05:35:26 -0400 From: csloan Subject: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix Does anyone have this in MP3 format? I have only been able to find the false mix--I want the one from the White Room promo video. Help, anyone? Thanks! Love, Courtney # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:52:29 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Twenty-three years is a mighty long time Just a quick note to say that after many years of watching the relentless anorak-type number-spotting on this list, I have finally... ...turned twenty-three years old. It's 11am and I'm still sober, so maybe turning 23 is a sign that I'm supposed to have grown up by now. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 05:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Bennett Subject: Re: (klf) Twenty-three years is a mighty long time I only had one beer on my 23'rd, and that was because my father bought it for me without asking me first.. hmm..maybe there is some truth to that Stuart... It's 11am and I'm still sober, so maybe turning 23 is a sign that I'm supposed to have grown up by now. Stuart. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:57:16 +0200 From: "Heiko Bosman" Subject: (klf) I'm back Hi everyone, Just letting you know i'm back on the list. Did i miss anything really important? cheerio, Heiko p.s. still looking for KLF PROMO 3 for under $50, anyone? (hehehe) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:28:57 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix At least one list member has the real 2 sided KLF ETERNA 1 12". The bootleg 12" is one sided and just omits the edit version. The promo video version is just another mix. All of them are true KLF mixes. Don "Does anyone have this in MP3 format? I have only been able to find the false mix--I want the one from the White Room promo video. Help, anyone?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:39:00 +0100 From: "Carl Durber" Subject: (klf) 23 What is the relevance of 23? Why is it such a special number? Carl. ==================================== grunge.at/anythingman ==================================== _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:39:17 +0100 From: "Carl Durber" Subject: (klf) Relevance of the number 23 What is the relevance of 23? Why is it such a special number? Carl. ==================================== grunge.at/anythingman ==================================== _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:09:11 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) Twenty-three years is a mighty long time --- Stuart Bruce wrote: > > > > ...turned twenty-three years old. > > It's 11am and I'm still sober, so maybe turning 23 > is a sign that I'm > supposed to have grown up by now. > Oh to be 23 again,now, where's my pipe and slippers? Still! Being as my flat number is 23 I still have credibility. Any other 23's out there? Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:32:20 +0100 From: "Darren Forster" Subject: RE: (klf) Relevance of the number 23 > What is the relevance of 23? > > Why is it such a special number? Because the number 23 comes up a lot in The KLF's work and also in Illuminatis which is the book that The KLF is based around. The following is about it from http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/klf/23.htm "The book is obviously a product of the sixties US counterculture, and of the liberated sexual attitudes prevalent in the Playboy offices. It mixes factional sources with fiction and constantly re-interprets and changes the 'facts' until the reader is left utterly confused. It makes use of the concept of synchronicity, where connections are made between apparantly unrelated incidences, and of numerology, and brings to the readers attention the occult significance of the number 23. Only the Lords of Mu know whether there is more significance to 23 than any other number, but what is definately true, is that once the reader is informed, and shown where 23 crops up, they will notice 23's popping up oddly themselves. A large part of the fun the book introduces one to, is either spotting 23's or hiding them in works deliberately for others to spot. Finally the book promotes discordiansm, "a religion disguised as a joke or a joke disguised as a religion?" Discordians worship the female god of chaos Eris, and are involved in the chaos vs order war." "When Drummond was at art college in Liverpool in 1976, he was 'involved with the set design', and did the music (along with teenage musical prodigy Ian Broudie), for the first ever stage production of Illuminatus! which opened in Liverpool on the 23rd of November '76. The 5 part, 10-hour, science-fiction rock-opera epic was directed by Ken Campbell, and the 23-strong cast included Jayne 'Big In Japan' Casey, David 'Time Bandits' Rappaport, and featured Robert Anton Wilson as a naked extra. The play moved to London where it was seen by the young Cauty who would read the books because of the production." "The KLF also hid many 23's in their canon of work for 'Illuminatus!' readers to spot. 'Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu' is 23 letters long. Kopyright Liberation Front unfortunately has one too many letters. The first single 'All You Need Is Love' was JAMS 23. "23 years is a mighty long time" is a line in 'Next' on 1987. Also on 1987 is the song 'Rockman Rock (Parts 2 and 3)'. The JAMsmobile (Ford Timelord) has 23 on its/his roof (all US cop cars have a two-figure number on their roofs). It can best be seen in the 'Doctorin' The Tardis' video. The model car in the 'Last Train To Trancentral' and Stadium House videos also has a 23 on its roof. The Pure Trance series was originally going to be comprised of 5 singles and 5 remixes - only 2 singles and 3 remixes were actually released. The Italian bootleg of the Madrugana Eterna club mix has a cat.no of ETERNAL 23. At the Disco Mix Convention in Amsterdam in late Oct 1990 (it may well have been the 23rd!) they played a 23 minute version of 'What Time Is Love?' additionally they did a PA at the Heaven club at the end of December 1990 (could it have been?). The KLF's appearance at the Liverpool Festival of Comedy was on Sunday June 23rd 1991. The final KLF Communications info sheet was #23. There's a Cauty drawing of the cop car in this info sheet, it has a 23 on its side. The K-F's award was announced on the 23rd of November (the 17th aniversary of the opening of the Illuminatus! Liverpool production). The K-F's award was the 1994 award, while the Turner award it was subverting was the 1993 award; could it be because 1+9+9+4=23?. They burnt a million pounds on the 23rd of August 1994 and premiered the film of this event exactly a year later. Finally they were back for '23 minutes only' at the Barbican in 1997 to ***K The Millenium. There are some other poor ones which only fit if you force them, but are often mentioned by fans as possible ones. Its stretching a point to believe that the KLF with their short attention span would bother to count up how many of each thing they had or hadn't done. However: There are 23 bricks in the KLF's pyramid blaster logo. Well there are 22 complete rectangular bricks. If you count either the ghetto blaster or the top triangle or the bottom left hand almost complete brick as the missing brick then yes. You can also manipulate the KLF's releases to produce 23 releases. There's JAMS LP1-6 (six) JAMS 23-28T (six) KLF 001-005, 008-011 & 99 (ten). So you need to dig up one more possibly the Stadium House video or ETERNA1 or the unreleased Black Room or K Sera Sera, and now we have ***K The Millenium. Then there's definitely not 23 mixes of 'What Time Is Love?' but by selectively discounting some or including some based on your own predjudices you can come up with either 13 or 17 (other significant numbers). Finally if you substitute numbers for letters, then K+L = 23 and K+F = 17. " Now do you see the relevence of the number 23? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:20:11 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Relevance of the number 23 > What is the relevance of 23? > > Why is it such a special number? Required reading: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440539811/qid=1002146740/sr=1-1/ref=sr _1_3_1/104-1368924-6501536 Stick with it. The first 300 pages will drive you mad but it will make sense in the end. Also answers the questions: Why a pyramid? Why a submarine? Who are the JAMs? Who are The Five? What is really behind the lyrics to All You Need is Love? And many others. Read and be transformed. The KLF were much more than just a cool music act. - -paul "Advancement is rapid and the rewards are beyond your present understanding." ~ John Dillinger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:43:29 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Gagen > Sent: 03 October 2001 16:29 > To: 'csloan'; klf-digest@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix > At least one list member has the real 2 sided KLF ETERNA 1 12". > The bootleg > 12" is one sided and just omits the edit version. The promo video version > is just another mix. All of them are true KLF mixes. I'd also love to get an MP3 of this. Ive heard it on the White Room Film and a White Room Film promo but the quality is crap. It's by far the best mix. Also, went to see the Orb last night at the Royal Festival Hall. Absolutely blinding! Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:51:40 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix > > 12" is one sided and just omits the edit version. The promo video version > > is just another mix. All of them are true KLF mixes. > > I'd also love to get an MP3 of this. Ive heard it on the White Room Film and > a White Room Film promo but the quality is crap. It's by far the best mix. Clarification -- the White Room movie mix is undistributed in any other form. Both the bootleg and the original 12" both contain the same mix. - -paul Currently in rotation: Too Much Joy - various; Paul McCartney - Driving Rain (pre-release); Proclaimers - various # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:53:28 +0200 (MEST) From: c-Row@gmx.de Subject: Re: (klf) madrugada eterna true club mix > Clarification -- the White Room movie mix is undistributed in any other > form. Both the bootleg and the original 12" both contain the same mix. Except that the original 12" plays a shorter edit as second track. Got an mp3 of it, all thatīs different is a slightly changed fade out. Where the normal 12" track plays along, the shorter edit fades out and you can hear the mad preacher who isnīt there on the 12" mix at this position. cy@ c-Row - -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 08:32:36 +0200 From: "Heiko Bosman" Subject: RE: (klf) Relevance of the number 23 >'Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu' is 23 letters long. Kopyright Liberation >Front >unfortunately has one too many letters. No it doesnt if you spell it Kopyrite Liberation Front :) heiko _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 06:41:53 -0500 From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) It Begain In Afrika This is to the list member who said that the Chemical Brothers (Sold Out) did It Began In Afrika.......WRONG!! Like I Said Before, The Original Artist Is Plasmic Honey. The SoldOut Brothers only used it in one of their Mixes. Laterz RMStringer _________________________________________________ A flashback occurs right in front of your eyes "The final moment if truth comes time never lies A memory retaining a love you had for life As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to go right" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:18:04 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) It Begain In Afrika Maybe they used/created the sample first for "Afrika", but you must be aware that the Chemical Brothers released song using the sample as a proper single last month. I'll never figure out the success = sellout argument. I've never even heard of Plasmic Honey until recently like most people didn't know who the Chemical/Dust Brothers were back in 92/93. Hopefully Plasmic Honey can put together a 1st album that is successful as "Exit Planet Dust" was when it was released. Now back to the KLF Don "This is to the list member who said that the Chemical Brothers (Sold Out) did It Began In Afrika.......WRONG!! Like I Said Before, The Original Artist Is Plasmic Honey. The SoldOut Brothers only used it in one of their Mixes. Laterz RMStringer" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:32:49 BST From: guysmiley@breathe.com Subject: Re: (klf) It Begain In Afrika I think I actually set the record straight on this ages ago. the 'it began in africa' sample comes from usa newsreader jim ingram. it's off his album "DrumBeat" and the track in particular has the same name. it's very good. basically his dialogue over the occasional congo drums. tribal. deep. simple. this was all done in the early 70's before those pesky chem's were barely in baby-grows. hope this settles it. as don said, back to the heavyweight jamm. l8rs neil On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:18:04 -0500 Don Gagen wrote: > > Maybe they used/created the sample first for "Afrika", # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:31:25 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) It Begain In Afrika > -----Original Message----- > From: RMStringer > Sent: 05 October 2001 12:42 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) It Begain In Afrika > This is to the list member who said that the Chemical Brothers (Sold Out) > did It Began In Afrika.......WRONG!! Like I Said Before, The > Original Artist > Is Plasmic Honey. The SoldOut Brothers only used it in one of their Mixes. I've just downloaded the Plasmic Honey track from Audiogalaxy to have a listen. Benefit of the doubt and all that. Anyway, apart from being crap, the only similarity is that is has the sample "It Began In Africa" in it. Is Chill Out now by Fleetwood Mac and not the KLF purely because it samples them? I've never understood all this "selling out" rubbish. It seems that certain people seem to take exception to bands that they previously liked being enjoyed by more people than themselves and a select few? If they were on TOTP doing the 'Chemical Brothers' version of Mambo Number 5 than I'd have to agree but I don't see much likelyhood of that somehow. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:44:38 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) It Begain In Afrika > -----Original Message----- > From: RMStringer > Sent: 05 October 2001 12:42 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) It Begain In Afrika > This is to the list member who said that the Chemical Brothers (Sold Out) > did It Began In Afrika.......WRONG!! Like I Said Before, The > Original Artist > Is Plasmic Honey. The SoldOut Brothers only used it in one of their Mixes. I've just downloaded the Plasmic Honey track from Audiogalaxy to have a listen. Benefit of the doubt and all that. Anyway, apart from being crap, the only similarity is that is has the sample "It Began In Africa" in it. Is Chill Out now by Fleetwood Mac and not the KLF purely because it samples them? I've never understood all this "selling out" rubbish. It seems that certain people seem to take exception to bands that they previously liked being enjoyed by more people than themselves and a select few? If they were on TOTP doing the 'Chemical Brothers' version of Mambo Number 5 than I'd have to agree but I don't see much likelyhood of that somehow. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:34:55 +0100 From: "chris renwick" Subject: (klf) africa why all the fuss about this track? in my opinion it is by far the worst offering from the CB to date. i heard a story that the Chemical Brothers did not want to release it but were talked into it by dj friends. They should have buried it. and anyway .. arent there CB lists for such issues? chief # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:06:37 -0500 From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) SolidSteel------Coldcut Does anybody have the part 2 of solid steel by coldcut on the BBCX live session on 06.11.2001 I only was able to get the 1st part. If anyone does have it, I would be willing to give you access to my ftp as a swap. Thankx RMStringer _________________________________________________ A flashback occurs right in front of your eyes "The final moment if truth comes time never lies A memory retaining a love you had for life As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to go right" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:31:26 BST From: pastyman@talk21.com Subject: (klf) (No Subject) Salutations New subscriber to the list , long time admirer of Cauty ,Drummond, Gimpo Have met them before interesting time to say the least if anyones interested I,ll tell the story......................................................................... ZULU - -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 10:29:41 +0200 From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) (OT) Prodigy Hey, is there any hardcore Prodigy fan on the list? I have some special questions regarding some remixes... anyone? Thanks, Daniel - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 06:35:29 EDT From: TRACYANDI@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF ringtones I seem to remember someone asking on this list if there was any KLF ringtones around. I have found What time is love on the nme website - http://nme.ringtones.co.uk - on the POP section. It costs around 2 quid to download it. H # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #484 *************************