From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #80 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Saturday, March 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 080 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:00:37 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Re: On 25-Mar-98, Jules Seifert wrote: >Chris Gross wrote: >> >> >> P.S.: Just tried the IRC page at lunchtime-- Kewl! >> >Thanx Chris, so it was you? aha! Yep-- "Golem14". Tried to go on again in the evening, but I had a bad connection-- will try again when I get a chance. - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:18:21 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) [Q] new song? Hallo all, Forgive me if it's wrong. A friend of mine in Europe told me like this: - ---------- One friend of mine recenently told me they played live in a UK club, an unknown 20 minute long instrumental! - ---------- Is it true? If so, what is the song? It's mentioned in this list that Kraftwerk played a few more unreleased pieces than they actually performed on their stage at the rehearsal last year. Is there any connection? Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:14:21 +0100 From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) Dynamo? (was Re: Football) Hi, sorry to add more of this foot off topic, but > Do you mean Dynamo Kiev from Ukraina? :-) > > (Please correct me if I'm wrong) In USSR there were many Dynamo teams: Dynamo Kiev, Dynamo Tbilissi, in Leningrad there was a Dynamo stadium as well. That's because each team was depending on a different ministry, not only a town. So "Dynamo" was depending on police (milice) department. I believe Spartak was depending on ministry of the defense (army)... funny :) so if "Man Machine" was called "Dynamo" instead, it would have some more para-military aspect :) cheers, Tim. - -- Timour JGENTI | Institut Francais du Petrole _______________|___________________________________ _______________| mailto:timour.jgenti@ifp.fr _______________| http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:18:45 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes: "You make the sun shine" Details for the German pressing of the Mobile Homes CD single "You Make The Sun Shine": Catalogue number: SPV CDS 055-29013 Track listing: 1. You Make The Sun Shine (Radio Edit) 3:40" 2. You Make The Sun Shine (Accoustic Version) 3:40" 3. Sun Mix 6:50" 4. Shine Mix 5:58" 5. Video Mix 3:44" Karl Bartos is credited for composition and production, but he is *not* listed as a band member. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:06:40 +0100 johan.andersson@allers.aller.se writes: > >=2E >> tom w >> np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa >>=20 >eh? USA? Football? When? > >I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) > >ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz=2E=2E=2E >I'm sorry, but where's the connection between KW and football the >kick-bass >in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD >and a >ball? > >Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E > well, kw are germans, right? football is the most popular sport in germany, right? germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? and, some things are more important than kw, right? tom w sp: can - germany 6/71 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:35:57 +0000 Jules Seifert writes: >thomas m weibrecht wrote: >> >> ur both nuts....all the way with the usa.... >> tom w >> np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa >> >eh? USA? Football? When? > >I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) >-- one result pal: usa 1: brasil 0.... tom w np: can: hannover 6/71 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:29:09 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip At 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST, thomas m weibrecht wrote: >>in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD >>and a ball? >> >>Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E >> >well, kw are germans, right? football is the most popular sport in >germany, right? germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? and, >some things are more important than kw, right? To keep this list on-topic, I recommend those football (soccer) fans to join some mailing lists at www.isfa.com. It's a great place to talk about the greatest sport. I'm in their wcfrance98 list too. (although I haven't written a mail to the list yet.) p.s. I'd also like to know how "Mensch Maschine" and the Dynamo team (which?) are related. Can we assume it's okay to have a talk about it here? :-) ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:20:08 -0500 From: mark Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip >>Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E >> >well, kw are germans, right? Right. > football is the most popular sport in germany, right? I have no idea what's popular in Germany. >germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? Uhmmm....if you say so....I'll assume that's true. >some things are more important than kw, right? Right! But it aint soccer! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:44:32 -1000 From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) soccer posts Please take the all the soccer posts somewhere else, it's got nothing to do with kw music. ...vt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:10:54 +0000 From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: (kw) FAQ Marc Houle wrote: > > I have a question that's probably on the faq's but It'll just take me a > couple years to find the answer.... > > I have this breakdance record that has TDF on it by '10 Speed'. > Why is it 10 Speed not KW? is it a record label problem or something? > > Marc Yeah, a friend of mine and I had found the record at a rummage sale here in Chicago and noticed the same thing. Seems that TDF was a huge breakdance 12" here in the states, but the record company (K-Tel, I believe?) couldn't get the licence for the Kraftwerk version and paid someone else to do a cover. Shame, really... Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:59:06 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:20:08 -0500 mark writes: > >>>some things are more important than kw, right? > >Right! But it aint soccer! > ok, u call it then... tom w np: material=the road to the western lands _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:20:14 +0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) soccer posts >Please take the all the soccer posts somewhere else, it's got nothing to do >with kw music. if only KW would give us some new music to talk about... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:29 -0500 From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) FAQ You mean that TDF version is a cover????? Wow, that's one of the best covers I've ever heard then! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:31:05 -0300 From: tg97 Subject: (kw) KW or soccer list? Sorry men, but just in case, BRAZIL will win next World Cup!!! Brazil 2 x 1 Germany (see you?) peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:21:29 -0300 From: tg97 Subject: (kw) MTV Brazil Thanks MTV Brazil, for the TV program "Presente MTV" (Gift MTV - I don't know the correspondent name of the original format in english). Last week I saw a half hour especial of the "History of Techno", probably produced in USA and translated to portuguese. Very incomplete, but start with TEE (of course, the begining of all)!! Great!!! The Fathers of Techno! I always love to see KW at television. Sometimes they put Robots 91 to roll. But only after midnight... And with some images of Africa Bambaata playing Planet Rock. Thanks again, MTV. We need more Kraftwerk at TV!!! Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:52:57 +0000 From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) C90 Go! OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into 90 minutes. My initial thoughts on track listing were: Numbers - CW CW2 - CW CW - CW Tanzmusik - R&F Heimetklange - R&F Autobahn - Mix Technopop - O'pic The Model - MM - ---------------------------------- Radiactivity - O'pic Neon Lights - VEM Airwaves - R The Robits - MM Tour de France - O'pic Europe Endless - TEE That's about 90 mins. Anyone got a better suggestion? Regards Richard www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag ps Johann did you see the Brazil/Germany game? What a scorcher! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:15:58 +0000 From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) C90 Go! Richard Poolton wrote: > > OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of > KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into > 90 minutes. Well i know one thing for certain, KW themselves sure know how to condense ten years of music into virtually nothing! - -- ciao, - ------------------------------------------ Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:21:56 -0800 From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) C90 Compilations This is not all Kraftwerk, but features them in a tape of the best of early E-music. This tape will RULE! Side 1 Album Deluxe (Immer Wieder) 9:45 Harmonia, Deluxe, 1975 Isi 5:00 Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 Elektrisches Roulette 4:19 Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Klinklang ~15:40 (less bell intro) Kraftwer, Kraftwerk 2, 1971 Tanzmusik 6:34 Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Kristallo (faded out at 5:48) Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Side 2 Hollywood 4:40 Cluster, Zuckerzeit, 1974 Fontana di Luna 6:39 Michael Rother, Sterntaler, 1977 Sowiesoso 7:17 Cluster, Sowiesoso, 1976 Seeland ~6:57 (less rain ending) Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 E-Musik ~10:00 (less wind intro/end) Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 Dino 3:30 Harmonia, Musik von Harmonia, 1974 Rheinita 7:37 La Dusseldorf, Viva, 1978 Heisse Lippen 2:20 Cluster, Zuckerzeit, 1974 Try it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:14:56 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Tributes" Endless Quoted from the April issue of Muzik, page 12: "Mrs. Wood has completed a single for React as Woodwork. The hard dance doyenne is following it with a 'homage to Kraftwerk'... German electro/techno artist Anthony Rother, meanwhile, who runs the Kaar label, is reported to have remixed the Teutonic legends' 'Trans Europe Express'..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:18:18 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Lost tracks" It seems that there is a new Kraftwerk 12" bootleg out. I've noticed the following on a saleslist: "Kraftwerk: 'Lost tracks' (1983er Original), 12", 98/UK, DJUK20" Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:54:10 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Free Tibet Festival WWW pages Some basic information about the Free Tibet Festival in Washington can be found at http://www.milarepa.org/wwwchat/index.html Kraftwerk aren't mentioned on this page yet. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:32:46 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Electrik Musik Just to let you all know that I have just ordered the latest EM CD single and promo album from the following web site: www.hotstuff.se Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:20:43 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Deluxe"? Found in the WMI online catalogue (http://www.wmimusic.com): Artist - KRAFTWERK Title - DELUXE*GER CD* (941021) Type - Spec Country-Eng Order CDs @ $49.56 -- No Cassettes Availabler -- No Albums Availabler Any idea what this could be?? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:25:47 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes > Just to let you all know that I have just ordered the latest EM CD single > and promo album from the following web site: > www.hotstuff.se The same company also offers promo CD's of the forthcoming Mobile Homes album (feat. Karl Bartos). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:36:03 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Superior The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is now scheduled for May, according to http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:22:33 -0700 From: Fpinto Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Convoy I am leaving from UT (Provo-Salt Lake City) heading to California for both concerts there. Anyone interested in being part of a convoy goin= g there? I'll be out of the US the entire month of May coming back in June f= or the Werk-fest. =A1Tsch=FCs! fpinto@byu.edu (Phil) PS: ARE THERE ANY WERK-FANS OVER THIS UT AREA? *Ohm is the unit of Electric Resistance. Resistance to the Ohm (Ohm Sweet Ohm) is futile!* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:14:06 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) C90 Go! >>> Richard Poolton wrote: > OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of > KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into > 90 minutes. My initial thoughts on track listing were: > > Numbers - CW > [snip] > Europe Endless - TEE << Subject: Re: (kw) Superior Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is > now scheduled for May, according to > http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases There's nothing there.......... ...vt - -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:50:20 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) From the Official Tangerine Dream Web Site On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:10:22 +0100 derrien@mail.club-internet.fr (Jean Christophe Derrien) writes: > >58. Are Tangerine Dream members fans of the German band >=BBKraftwerk=AB? > Kraftwerk is more or less representive of the opposite way to >use >electronic instruments. We've never heard a > TD member whistling a Kraftwerk tune! > >Enough said. >JCFromParis u didnt hear about the td vs. kw riot last year? i thought that was well publicized? shit, maybe it should be reanimated... tom w np: tangerine dream=deadly care soundtrack...the best album ever...and im whistling _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:40:15 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Convoy On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Fpinto wrote: > I am leaving from UT (Provo-Salt Lake City) heading to California for > both concerts there. Anyone interested in being part of a convoy going > there? If the San Fran show is for real, I'll probably be flying down. My arms will get tired, but it's too far to drive in polynomial time. I have yet to see any evidence of the SF show being for real though. Is there any place listing it or selling tickets yet? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:17:37 -1000 From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish) lbo wrote: > you mean if the bootleggers will be after you? :-) no, I don't think so. I didn't mean that and no, I don't think they'd bother.... > it could be a nice theorical problem of right, anyway. who is the owner of > the sounds of a concert? the bootleggers infringe this ownership for > first. are you "guilty" if you successively publish some "stolen" sound? Define stolen sound, if the music at a concert enters my ears and doesn't come out again, then in theory I've stolen it, yes? I'll admit it'd be hard to make copies of it :-) Anyway, the main thing that will keep me in the clear is the fact that I won't be doing it for money. I think the times were mainly "REAL" fans made bootlegs are a thing of the past, nowadays I think it's only people who are after a fast buck. If they miss out, so much the better. Bootlegs are "WAY OVERPRICED" anyway. > just for theory sake, anyway. upload them and it'll all be fine :-) :-) time and hard disk space permitting...... BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds better? (Note: mp3's take forever to encode) ...vt - -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:05:26 GMT From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) From the Official Tangerine Dream Web Site tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > >u didnt hear about the td vs. kw riot last year? i thought that was >well publicized? shit, maybe it should be reanimated... > hehe, but i know one thing for sure, it'll be in the archives! ;-) ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #80 ******************************