From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Pokemon
Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:49:22 +1100

At 15:34 31-12-98 EST, you wrote:
>	I have four questons concerning Pokemon.
>
>1)	If you stop a Pokemon from evolving, will they ever evolve again?
>
>2)	What do you use Nuggets for?
>
>3)	What's the easiest way to get Porygon, besides trading?  By buying the
>coins or trying to win them? (I have the Blue Version, so Porygon is only
>6,500 coins).
>
>4)	Is there any really good way to catch Pokemon in the Safari Zone, or do you
>just have to keep trying at it?
>
>--David

1) They will try to evolve again every time the level up. Pokemon learn
attacks faster if you don't evolve them.

2) You can sell nuggets at the shops

3) Buy the coins. When you beat the elite four, you get alot of money, so
just keep doing that until you have enough.

4) I havn't found any easy way to catch the pokemon in the safari zone. But
later in the game, you can go to the secret cave and battle all sorts of
rare pokemon, including those from the safari zone.


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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 09:41:31 -0500


>In k. village where there's a shooting arrow game that cost 20 bucks.
>You have to hit all 10 rubies.  It's really a tough game, especially
>the moving red rubies.  What do you get from that game?
>
>I notice if you get 8 out of 10, u get to play again for free.
>
>-Vi
>He'll eventually give you a piece of heart. The shooting arrow game gets
simple after awhile...         
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 12:17:12 -0500

How long do I have to wait for the giant goron on death mountain to fix
the broken giants sword after I get the receipt? Do I have to beat the
water temple first and then come back?  And who do I give the
monster(Skull) mask to as a boy? I never really tried it on anyone so
it's probably pretty simple. 				       
-Peter

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 13:06:15 EST

In a message dated 1/1/99 9:14:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

<< How long do I have to wait for the giant goron on death mountain to fix
 the broken giants sword after I get the receipt? Do I have to beat the
 water temple first and then come back?  And who do I give the
 monster(Skull) mask to as a boy? I never really tried it on anyone so
 it's probably pretty simple. 				       
 -Peter >>

	He said let a couple of days pass, so I used the Sun Song to make that
happen.  He gave it to me after two days passed.

--David

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 12:59:45 -0600

actually I think its supposed to be three days... I'm pretty sure.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/1/99 9:14:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
> writes:
> 
> << How long do I have to wait for the giant goron on death mountain to fix
>  the broken giants sword after I get the receipt? Do I have to beat the
>  water temple first and then come back?  And who do I give the
>  monster(Skull) mask to as a boy? I never really tried it on anyone so
>  it's probably pretty simple.
>  -Peter >>
> 
>         He said let a couple of days pass, so I used the Sun Song to make that
> happen.  He gave it to me after two days passed.
> 
> --David
> 
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 15:25:58 -0500

And who do you give the monster mask to?  

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 16:27:01 EST

In a message dated 1/1/99 12:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

<< And who do you give the monster mask to?  
  >>

	You give the Spooky mask to the boy in the Graveyard who wants to be like
Dampe.

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 16:41:01 EST

In a message dated 99-01-01 12:14:27 EST, you write:

> How long do I have to wait for the giant goron on death mountain to fix
>  the broken giants sword after I get the receipt? Do I have to beat the
>  water temple first and then come back?  And who do I give the
>  monster(Skull) mask to as a boy? I never really tried it on anyone so
>  it's probably pretty simple. 				       
>  -Peter

Spoiler Space
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You have to wait three days for the sword to be fixed. So just play the Sun
Song six times and 3 days will go by pretty fast.

The Skull Mask should be given to the lone Skull Kid in the Lost Woods.

Trey

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From: Justin <shaggy@computan.on.ca>
Subject: [N64] GBC Rampage Question
Date: 01 Jan 1999 18:24:40 -0500


I got GBC for Christmas and I'm loving it.  The old games aren't very
colorful but they look a lot better and are much easier to see.  I also
got the color frogger and rampage, I highly recommend both.  I have been
waiting for a traditional frogger, it was the first video game I ever
owned way back in the atari days.  I also really like Rampage, it looks
good and plays perfect ( you have to play it to believe it).  I have one
question for people who have played rampage, can you become V.E.R.N in
the GBC version?
I have played the n64 version and you can transform into V.E.R.N and fly
around.

Justin




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From: "dvader" <dvader@intop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Why I hate fog - aka SouthPark went back for a refund
Date: 01 Jan 1999 19:42:07 -0600





>a) Fog... and more Fog. If you thought Turok was bad, SouthPark is worse!


The fog is really really bad in this game. The reason has to be because of
the wide open environments. The levels are really sparce and plain.

>c) Last but not least, when i got to the boss turkey, the game just
>   crashed and left me with a black screen. After another random crash,
>   I just gave up and repacked the game in the box. I don't buy the
>   'expansion pack gets too hot' theory, since I can play rogue squadron
>   for hours at a time, and it never skips a beat. The Turok2 engine is
>   flawed someohow, and I'm really not in the mood to help beta test
>   Acclaim's carts.


South Park hasn't crashed for me yet, but I have had Turok 2 crash on
numerous occasions. It's startin to piss me off!


>b) Lots of sound bytes and 'movie' sequences that look better than the
>   original toon itself.

The cutscenes are really cool and HILARIOUS! I wouldn't say they are better
than the cartoon though. The show is made to look like that.

>c) Multiplayer looks like fun, but without any competition to play
>   against, its meaningless to me.


The multiplayer is a BLAST! The Alien Core level is a lot of fun because
there is no gravity. There are some other nice levels to, and all the
characters are funny.




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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] T2 "cheat"
Date: 02 Jan 1999 00:47:49 -0600

Hey, I found out something cool in the 2nd level of T2!  (I'm sure its
probably everywhere in magazines but I dont read them and kinda found it
out on my own).  When you have to destroy the soul gates and those dead
guys come up and throw blood (I think thats what it is) at you just go
to the options screen and turn blood off!  Then they just throw air at
you and you never die!

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] arrgh. Zelda Help
Date: 02 Jan 1999 02:14:03 EST

Spoiler Space





1






2





3




4



5

Okay, so I get to the Water Temple and find the Map & Compas. I also met
Princess Ruto. But now, for some reason, I cannot remember (or find for that
matter) the Tri-Force pictures that allow you to raise & lower the water
level. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help
Date: 02 Jan 1999 08:14:58 EST

Ignore my last question about the Water Temple.. I figured it out. That's what
happen when I play Zelda on 2 hours of sleep.


Trey

"If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess around with butterflies and
daffodils. I would have started with lasers; 8 o'clock, day one!" - Evil from
Time Bandits.

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From: "Renato Braga" <renato.braga@openlink.com.br>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 02 Jan 1999 13:47:07 -0200

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last one is impossible! Any help is more than welcome.

Also, what is that @#$% codes?! You need to finish the game first before =
using them?! The codes are exactly to help you finish the game, not a =
reward!!

Anyway, the creatures are not that hard, the must dificult part is to =
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] arrgh. Zelda Help
Date: 02 Jan 1999 13:22:48 EST

In a message dated 1/1/99 11:15:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< Okay, so I get to the Water Temple and find the Map & Compas. I also met
 Princess Ruto. But now, for some reason, I cannot remember (or find for that
 matter) the Tri-Force pictures that allow you to raise & lower the water
 level. Any help would be greatly appriciated.
 
 Trey >>

	One of the Symbols is inside the Tower (2nd level).  One is in a small alcove
at the end of a hallway (3rd level).  And one is in the room where Ruto leads
you to (1st level).

--David

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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 Help
Date: 02 Jan 1999 16:21:55 -0500

How do you get to the master computer in Level 5?  I have the satchels but I
need to get past that water barrier.


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Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 02 Jan 1999 15:52:58 -0600


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 17:30:33 EST

Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda : Ocarina of
Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?

Trey


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 02 Jan 1999 19:00:52 EST

In a message dated 1/2/99 1:57:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, rhodes2@juno.com
writes:

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	This is EXCELLENT advice about Turok 2.  Just excellent...

--David

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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 18:59:17 -0500

Yes.  You have to find one of the Great Fairies.  I don't know at the moment
which one to go to though.
-----Original Message-----


>Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda : Ocarina
of
>Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?
>
>Trey
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 19:01:53 EST

In a message dated 1/2/99 2:32:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda : Ocarina
of
 Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?
 
 Trey >>


	Yes, you can double your Magic Meter by visiting a Giant Fairy, but I don't
remember exactly where she is.

--David

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 02 Jan 1999 18:06:18 -0600

In a message dated 1/2/99 1:57:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rhodes2@juno.com
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        This is EXCELLENT advice about Turok 2.  Just excellent...

--David

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I agree........A real help.---- Whew!-- Should save a lot of
frustration.----- To bad- This list doesn't have any archives. --It
could answer a lot of future Questions about the game for those that
missed the original post.

Corey

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From: gameboy@brookings.net
Subject: [N64] The Best place for Zelda64 walkthroughs!!!
Date: 02 Jan 1999 18:26:04 -0600 (CST)

Here is the place for Zelda:Ocarina of Time Walkthroughs!!! At
www.z64central.com

Josh


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 18:44:16 -0600

She is the one in death mountain where you use the megaton hammer on 2
rocks.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/2/99 2:32:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> << Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda : Ocarina
> of
>  Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?
> 
>  Trey >>
> 
>         Yes, you can double your Magic Meter by visiting a Giant Fairy, but I don't
> remember exactly where she is.
> 
> --David
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 21:48:28 EST

In a message dated 99-01-02 19:04:40 EST, you write:

> In a message dated 1/2/99 2:32:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.
> com
>  writes:
>  
>  << Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda :
Ocarina
>  of
>   Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?
>   
>   Trey >>
>  
>  
>  	Yes, you can double your Magic Meter by visiting a Giant Fairy, but I
don't
>  remember exactly where she is.
>  
>  --David


>Yes.  You have to find one of the Great Fairies.  I don't know at the moment
> which one to go to though.
> --BCKH423

Thanks a lot guys, that aught to do it.

Trey

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:17:24 EST

I believe that the fairy is in the Death Mountain Crater, to the left of the
enterance of Goron City (if you were to be looking into the enterance). The
fountain is covered by two red stones.

~Matt

<<Is there a way to increase the size of the Magic Meter in Zelda : Ocarina
of Time? Or give it the 1/2 treatment ala Zelda : A Link to the Past?

Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:30:13 EST

Okay, what is the exact combination of buttons  need to press to make the
frogs eat the damn butterflies?!? This is killing me, I only need this and
Dampe's heart peace to have all 20 hearts. Please help.

~Matt

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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:52:35 -0500

A,CL,CR,CD,CL,CR,CD,A,CD,A,CD,CR,CL,A
-----Original Message-----


>Okay, what is the exact combination of buttons  need to press to make the
>frogs eat the damn butterflies?!? This is killing me, I only need this and
>Dampe's heart peace to have all 20 hearts. Please help.
>
>~Matt
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:15:41 -0600

Or you could forget that and do what I did: go crazy!!!  Oh yeah, where
is the piece of heart that IGN says is in front of Lon Lon Ranch by a
tree... they say drop a bomb at the base of the tree and i tried it on
the one real close to the entrance to the rance but nothing happens,
where is this piece of heart?!!!

BCKH423 wrote:
> 
> A,CL,CR,CD,CL,CR,CD,A,CD,A,CD,CR,CL,A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bastion007@aol.com <Bastion007@aol.com>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 11:31 PM
> Subject: [N64] Zelda Question
> 
> >Okay, what is the exact combination of buttons  need to press to make the
> >frogs eat the damn butterflies?!? This is killing me, I only need this and
> >Dampe's heart peace to have all 20 hearts. Please help.
> >
> >~Matt
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Question
Date: 03 Jan 1999 00:36:51 EST

This tree is more towards the left side of the Castle. You know, where there
is a small stream coming from the Castle. It's over there.

~Matt

<<Or you could forget that and do what I did: go crazy!!!  Oh yeah, where
is the piece of heart that IGN says is in front of Lon Lon Ranch by a
tree... they say drop a bomb at the base of the tree and i tried it on
the one real close to the entrance to the rance but nothing happens,
where is this piece of heart?!!!>>

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From: sjakie <james.wall@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 03 Jan 1999 12:52:24 +0000

Peter W Caton wrote:
> 
> >In k. village where there's a shooting arrow game that cost 20 bucks.
> >You have to hit all 10 rubies.  It's really a tough game, especially
> >the moving red rubies.  What do you get from that game?
> >
> >I notice if you get 8 out of 10, u get to play again for free.
> >
> >-Vi
> >He'll eventually give you a piece of heart. The shooting arrow game gets
> simple after awhile...


err, if were talking about the shooting game at kakariko village as an
adult then shooting all 10 wins you the quiver upgrade

sjakie

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From: AdidazNut@aol.com
Subject: [N64] zelda melody quedstion
Date: 03 Jan 1999 19:43:20 EST

I am so frustrated! how do u get the royal family melody???? somebody PLEASE
HELP! thanx
~~meg

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda melody quedstion
Date: 03 Jan 1999 17:14:36 -0800

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Simple question.  The royal family melody is Zelda's lulliby.  Which you =
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 03 Jan 1999 20:15:07 -0600

Could anyone tell me a site where I can learn about the history of
Nintendo?  (Its a school project so I need to know FAST!!)  Trey, you
seem to know alot about it, where are good sites?

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda melody quedstion
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:13:25 EST

In a message dated 99-01-03 19:44:39 EST, you write:

> I am so frustrated! how do u get the royal family melody???? somebody PLEASE
>  HELP! thanx
>  ~~meg

Talk to Princess Zelda at the castle. You'll get Zelda's Lullaby, aka The
Royal Family Melody.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:24:27 EST

In a message dated 99-01-03 21:07:45 EST, you write:

> Could anyone tell me a site where I can learn about the history of
>  Nintendo?  (Its a school project so I need to know FAST!!)  Trey, you
>  seem to know alot about it, where are good sites?

Nintendo.com has a timeline showing what they think are great points in
Nintendo's history but there are a few errors on it during the 1980s. It can
be found at http://www.nintendo.com/corp/history.html

An except of what I see as a terrible mistake in Nintendo's propaganda
machine.

"1985 - Started to sell the U.S. version of Family Computer "Nintendo
Entertainment System" (NES) in America. The system included R.O.B. - Robotic
Operating Buddy - and the games Duck Hunt and Super Mario Bros. Mario and
Luigi became as big a hit as the NES."

Gee Nintendo, I thought it came with Duck Hunt & Gyromite, not SMB. I mean
what use would ROB have been without Gyromite?

Trey

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From: AdidazNut@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: [N64] zelda melody quedstion
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:32:30 EST

ok, but i went to the grave yard, and i went into the royal family tomb,
talekd to the 2 rroyal composers, and sang zeldas lullaby on the triforce(my
"royal credentials") and i still cant figure it out. and also, how r u
suppposed to "shine light" ON the bones of the royal family skeletons???
~~meg

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re:Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:50:44 EST

spoiler







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.









.


How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key? The
room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but that
didn't work, any ideas?

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:00:47 -0600

Man is that Din's Fire cool!...

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> spoiler
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key? The
> room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but that
> didn't work, any ideas?
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: MrTwoson@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda melody quedstion
Date: 03 Jan 1999 21:57:46 EST

Ahh, you need to be a child, go down that Grave after playing Zelda's
Lullibye, and you'll learn the sun song, That's a nifty little song that kills
re-dead things, and changes day to night, and vice versa, whenever you want =)

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 03 Jan 1999 22:20:44 EST

Not only that Trey, but didn't Nintendo just admith that the Nes *is / was* a
family computer? I believe that one of the arguments against Tengen (that
unlicensed Atari company) was that the NES was *not* a computer at all. Or am
I sadly mistaken?

~Matt

<<Nintendo.com has a timeline showing what they think are great points in
Nintendo's history but there are a few errors on it during the 1980s. It can
be found at http://www.nintendo.com/corp/history.html

An except of what I see as a terrible mistake in Nintendo's propaganda
machine.

"1985 - Started to sell the U.S. version of Family Computer "Nintendo
Entertainment System" (NES) in America. The system included R.O.B. - Robotic
Operating Buddy - and the games Duck Hunt and Super Mario Bros. Mario and
Luigi became as big a hit as the NES."

Gee Nintendo, I thought it came with Duck Hunt & Gyromite, not SMB. I mean
what use would ROB have been without Gyromite?

Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 03 Jan 1999 22:27:42 EST

Close with the fire arrows. But that wood sure is old, huh? And dry? Too bad
my friend Din isn't there. He'd help light things up for ya.

~Matt

<<How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key?
The room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but
that
didn't work, any ideas?

Trey>>

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re:Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 04 Jan 1999 00:21:32 -0500

At 09:50 PM 1/3/99 EST, you wrote:
>spoiler
>
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>
>How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key?
The
>room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but
that
>didn't work, any ideas?

Din's Fire.


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history ... Family Computer
Date: 04 Jan 1999 02:40:37 EST

In a message dated 99-01-03 22:22:01 EST, you write:

> Not only that Trey, but didn't Nintendo just admith that the Nes *is / was* 
> a
>  family computer? I believe that one of the arguments against Tengen (that
>  unlicensed Atari company) was that the NES was *not* a computer at all. Or 
> am
>  I sadly mistaken?
>  
>  ~Matt

You misinterpreted it. The NES is the Family Computer, the FamiCom for short.
That's all that that means. Just as the Super NES is the Super Family Computer
or Super FamiCom.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Guerdo fortress
Date: 04 Jan 1999 07:30:43 EST

How do you get past the women in white who don't patrol the Guerdo Fortress.
They seem invunerable to arrows. (Stupid if you ask me)

Trey

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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: [N64] V64 Jr.
Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:20:36 -0600 (CST)

Anyone had experience with this?  Is it worth the $130.  I hear you can
play around developing.(Some programming knowledge needed, duh).  You can
also play games that others have made.  Also play backups ;).
 
 Piracy is bad!
 uuuun-kay.

John Carson
University of Arkansas                         


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 04 Jan 1999 12:41:20 -0600

I thought that Din was a woman... go figure.

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Close with the fire arrows. But that wood sure is old, huh? And dry? Too bad
> my friend Din isn't there. He'd help light things up for ya.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> <<How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key?
> The room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but
> that
> didn't work, any ideas?
> 
> Trey>>
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Guerdo fortress
Date: 04 Jan 1999 12:42:21 -0600

Forget about them for now, if you save all those guys then you will get
past them.

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> How do you get past the women in white who don't patrol the Guerdo Fortress.
> They seem invunerable to arrows. (Stupid if you ask me)
> 
> Trey
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From: Tim Ballard <psu19083@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:38:57 -0800 (PST)

My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used with
the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.

                                                 Tim


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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 13:20:32 PST

>My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used 
with
>the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
>the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
>Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.

Its name was R.O.B. - short for Robotic Operating Buddy.  Don't have a 
clue what games it could play, though.  I never owned one :)

Moblin 64

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Shadow Temple question
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:26:36 EST

In a message dated 1/3/99 6:52:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< How do I get past the room in the Shadow Temple that holds the Master Key?
The
 room with the spiked walls closing in on you. I tried the fire arrows but
that
 didn't work, any ideas?
 
 Trey
  >>

	Use Din's Fire to burn the walls.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:24:32 EST

In a message dated 1/3/99 6:07:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< Could anyone tell me a site where I can learn about the history of
 Nintendo?  (Its a school project so I need to know FAST!!)  Trey, you
 seem to know alot about it, where are good sites >>

	www.Nintendo.com has a part in it that has the complete corporate history,
starting way back when they made the playing cards!

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Guerdo fortress
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:29:22 EST

In a message dated 1/4/99 4:32:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< How do you get past the women in white who don't patrol the Guerdo
Fortress.
 They seem invunerable to arrows. (Stupid if you ask me)
 
 Trey >>

	You don't.  You can only knock out the women that wear purple.  You need to
free all of the carpenters before you can completely explore the Gerudo
grounds.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:30:33 EST

In a message dated 1/4/99 10:39:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,
psu19083@odin.cc.pdx.edu writes:

<< My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used with
 the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
 the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
 Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.
 
                                                  Tim
  >>

	Gyromite was one.  I have Gyromite, but no the R.O.B.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:25:55 EST

In a message dated 1/3/99 6:25:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< In a message dated 99-01-03 21:07:45 EST, you write:
 
 > Could anyone tell me a site where I can learn about the history of
 >  Nintendo?  (Its a school project so I need to know FAST!!)  Trey, you
 >  seem to know alot about it, where are good sites?
 
 Nintendo.com has a timeline showing what they think are great points in
 Nintendo's history but there are a few errors on it during the 1980s. It can
 be found at http://www.nintendo.com/corp/history.html
 
 An except of what I see as a terrible mistake in Nintendo's propaganda
 machine.
 
 "1985 - Started to sell the U.S. version of Family Computer "Nintendo
 Entertainment System" (NES) in America. The system included R.O.B. - Robotic
 Operating Buddy - and the games Duck Hunt and Super Mario Bros. Mario and
 Luigi became as big a hit as the NES."
 
 Gee Nintendo, I thought it came with Duck Hunt & Gyromite, not SMB. I mean
 what use would ROB have been without Gyromite?
 
 Trey
  >>

	My NES came with Duck Hunt and SMB, what use was Duck Hunt without the Light
Gun?

--David

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:45 EST

Comrades,

Does anyone know how to get the 'rifle type gun' in T2 level 2 ? Its the
one up high in an arch on a wall (kinda like an arched window high off the
ground) in a dark, kinda blue-ish tint hallway by all the bridges that lead
to the tranquilizer gun I think. Does anyone know how to get it?!?!?"

There is a similar gun earlier in level 2 floating above the green water
but you need the water talisman to get it.


Kevin

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 17:38:01 -0600

R.O.B. was his name and he worked with gyromite.

Tim Ballard wrote:
> 
> My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used with
> the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
> the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
> Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.
> 
>                                                  Tim
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 17:42:38 -0600

I think you mean the gernade launcher.  I got it!  And the way I did was
since it is hanging in mid air in a hallway and it looks too high up to
jump you are wrong!  Just keep jumping up and down up and down and you
will eventually pick it up even though its an extra 2 feet above your
head... strange...

Kevin Mapp wrote:
> 
> Comrades,
> 
> Does anyone know how to get the 'rifle type gun' in T2 level 2 ? Its the
> one up high in an arch on a wall (kinda like an arched window high off the
> ground) in a dark, kinda blue-ish tint hallway by all the bridges that lead
> to the tranquilizer gun I think. Does anyone know how to get it?!?!?"
> 
> There is a similar gun earlier in level 2 floating above the green water
> but you need the water talisman to get it.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 16:15:42 -0800

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Where in the level is the hallway?
-Sean

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 04 Jan 1999 18:27:36 -0600

Sean McWherter Wrote:

=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1=EF=F1>yp<



Yea!--- I was thinking about that to.-- =


Mine knockwherst is es Drippen!-- Mine Ladder-Hosen was es Swollen!--
Mine Knockwherst is es Fattar!

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:47 EST

Seriously, did you get it by just jumping? Can anyone confirm that you can
get this gun by just jumping which I have tried. If you can get the gun by
just jumping then how come I have not came across any ammo for it? The ammo
appears regardless of whether or not you have acquired the associated weapon.
I gave up on that gun along time ago and just continued on, and have not ran
across any ammo for it.

>I think you mean the gernade launcher.  I got it!  And the way I did was
>since it is hanging in mid air in a hallway and it looks too high up to
>jump you are wrong!  Just keep jumping up and down up and down and you
>will eventually pick it up even though its an extra 2 feet above your
>head... strange...
>
>Kevin Mapp wrote:
>>
>> Comrades,
>>
>> Does anyone know how to get the 'rifle type gun' in T2 level 2 ? Its the
>> one up high in an arch on a wall (kinda like an arched window high off the
>> ground) in a dark, kinda blue-ish tint hallway by all the bridges that lead
>> to the tranquilizer gun I think. Does anyone know how to get it?!?!?"
>>
>> There is a similar gun earlier in level 2 floating above the green water
>> but you need the water talisman to get it.

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 04 Jan 1999 18:59:07 -0600

Is that german?  Well heres something:  "Hau ab."

Corey Jaeckel wrote:
> 
> Sean McWherter Wrote:
> 
> ορορορορορορορορορ>yp<
> 
> Yea!--- I was thinking about that to.--
> 
> Mine knockwherst is es Drippen!-- Mine Ladder-Hosen was es Swollen!--
> Mine Knockwherst is es Fattar!
> 
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From: gameboy@brookings.net
Subject: [N64] Come to my Wcw/Nwo Revenge Fantasy League
Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:00:14 -0600 (CST)

Hey everybody on this list. Check out this site. It is a WCW/Nwo Revenge
Fantasy League Where you can make challenges, Win Titles, and pick Characters. 

I might of missed this already but In Southpark64 What is the code for God Mode?

Josh


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:14:59 EST

In a message dated 99-01-04 19:15:48 EST, you write:

> Where in the level is the hallway?
>  -Sean

Two doors down from the toilet. What are you talking about?

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:30:37 -0600

I am serious (swear to god).  It is really weird because when I go
underneath it and jump it seems to be like 2 or 3 feet away even when I
jump.  My other friend told me thats how he got it and I didnt believe
him but just for arguements sake, I kept jumping until it said I had
picked up a gernade launcher.

Kevin Mapp wrote:
> 
> Seriously, did you get it by just jumping? Can anyone confirm that you can
> get this gun by just jumping which I have tried. If you can get the gun by
> just jumping then how come I have not came across any ammo for it? The ammo
> appears regardless of whether or not you have acquired the associated weapon.
> I gave up on that gun along time ago and just continued on, and have not ran
> across any ammo for it.
> 
> >I think you mean the gernade launcher.  I got it!  And the way I did was
> >since it is hanging in mid air in a hallway and it looks too high up to
> >jump you are wrong!  Just keep jumping up and down up and down and you
> >will eventually pick it up even though its an extra 2 feet above your
> >head... strange...
> >
> >Kevin Mapp wrote:
> >>
> >> Comrades,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know how to get the 'rifle type gun' in T2 level 2 ? Its the
> >> one up high in an arch on a wall (kinda like an arched window high off the
> >> ground) in a dark, kinda blue-ish tint hallway by all the bridges that lead
> >> to the tranquilizer gun I think. Does anyone know how to get it?!?!?"
> >>
> >> There is a similar gun earlier in level 2 floating above the green water
> >> but you need the water talisman to get it.
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Guess What?!  I have Zelda 64 Mp3's!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:32:11 -0600

Yup thats right, I have 24 Zelda 64 Mp3's in 'mint' condition!  I found
them on a IRC site somewhere.

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:33:24 -0600

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 99-01-04 19:15:48 EST, you write:
> 
> > Where in the level is the hallway?
> >  -Sean
> 
> Two doors down from the toilet. What are you talking about?
> 
> Trey

I agree, asking where the hallway in the second level of T2 is just like
saying where is the snow in Canada... EVERYWHERE!

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:04:57 EST

In a message dated 99-01-04 13:39:50 EST, you write:

> My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used with
>  the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
>  the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
>  Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.
>  
>                                                   Tim

R.O.B. Robotic Operating Buddy. Two games worked with R.O.B., they were
Gyromite & I believe something called Stack-Em, but I'm not sure about the
second one. What kind of buddy likes to cut your fingers is beyond me. Bad
R.O.B.!

Trey

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 17:32:51 -0800

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:13:48 EST

In a message dated 99-01-04 16:41:11 EST, you write:

> My NES came with Duck Hunt and SMB, what use was Duck Hunt without the Light
>  Gun?
>  
>  --David
>  

That would be the Action Set, you got your NES during or after summer of 1988.
Before that the big NES set was the Robot Set which came with ROB, the Zapper,
Duck Hunt, and Gyromite. That set debuted in 1985. There was also the Control
Set which first came with a NES Player's Guide (1986), then the Player's Guide
was replaced with Super Mario Bros (1987), and then in 1988 when the Action
Set came out the Control Set was replaced by the Control Deck which came with
2 controllers & no game. In 1989 Nintendo introduced the Power Set which
included 2 controllers, the Zapper, the Power Pad, and the Super Mario
Bros/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet combo cart. In 1991 the NES came with
two controllers & Super Mario Bros. 3. Then in 1992 the new NES came out & it
sold with one controller & no game (as far as I saw..  by then I was paying
more attention to the SNES so I may be mistaken about the final NES
configuration).

Trey

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Guess What?!  I have Zelda 64 Mp3's!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:31:08 -0500

Wow.  Now isn't that cool.  Too bad you tell us nothing about how to get
them or anything.  You have ICQ?  You have an FTP?  Can I get some of them
from you?

D Fentie wrote:

> Yup thats right, I have 24 Zelda 64 Mp3's in 'mint' condition!  I found
> them on a IRC site somewhere.
>
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From: LARGEEYES@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Weird----a Gold Edition Zelda on the shelf
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:34:28 EST

I was in Meijer's the other day and they had a Gold Edition Zelda--guess it
was a return?!

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:00 EST

> Where in the level is the hallway?
>  -Sean

I'll try to remember...

In level 2 you, once you pass the area where the 1st grenade launcher
is floating above the green water, right at a save point, and you have
entered the 'courtyard' that has the 2 golden winged horses that you must
trigger to open the door behind them, and went into the 'teleporter' thats
on the right. That will take you to the area that has *lots* of walkways
and hallways. I'm almost positive its near where you'll find the
tranquilizer gun. Also, its not too far from where you'll find the room
with 4 pools/giant tubs of water and lots of spiders. Hope this helps!


Kevin

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:02 EST

Comrades,

Have any of you ever experienced the following using the tec bow and
tec arrows in T2

- having the tec bow aimed squarely at a dinosoids solar plexis
  (chest area), shooting him, he flinches, it explodes and he does not
  blow up?

- having it aimed directly at his chest and having it miss?

- having regular arrows get stuck in the wall your leaning out from
  although you have the arrow pointed directly in a dinosoids chest?

I have had the above instances happen on more than one occassion,
particuarly when I am leaning out from a wall, or shooting from a
distance.

Holla if ya hear me & tell me what body part you like planting the
exploding tec arrows!

Kevin

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:06 EST

Assuming you got the grenade launcher at that point in the game, have you
been finding ammo for it? Does the game replenish ammo for it when your in
one of the ammo replenishing places?


>I am serious (swear to god).  It is really weird because when I go
>underneath it and jump it seems to be like 2 or 3 feet away even when I
>jump.  My other friend told me thats how he got it and I didnt believe
>him but just for arguements sake, I kept jumping until it said I had
>picked up a gernade launcher.

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 - is there a feather in level 1?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:08 EST

Is there a feather in level 1 of Turok 2? If so could someone please
tell me the general vicinity where its at?

Thanks

Kevin

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 18:15:19 -0800

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All these things have happened to me to also.  I know that the stronger =
dinos take two shots in the chest but it only takes one shot in the head
-Sean
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  Comrades,

  Have any of you ever experienced the following using the tec bow and
  tec arrows in T2

  - having the tec bow aimed squarely at a dinosoids solar plexis
    (chest area), shooting him, he flinches, it explodes and he does not
    blow up?

  - having it aimed directly at his chest and having it miss?

  - having regular arrows get stuck in the wall your leaning out from
    although you have the arrow pointed directly in a dinosoids chest?

  I have had the above instances happen on more than one occassion,
  particuarly when I am leaning out from a wall, or shooting from a
  distance.

  Holla if ya hear me & tell me what body part you like planting the
  exploding tec arrows!

  Kevin

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:39:12 EST

Yeah, it's happened. I believe because the way you are zooming, your zoom is
so deep that you can't see the edge of the wall that, if you were to turn the
sniper mode off, would clearly take up half of your range. I like shooting
them in the head. Messy, but effective :-)

~Matt

<<I have had the above instances happen on more than one occassion,
particuarly when I am leaning out from a wall, or shooting from a
distance.
 
Holla if ya hear me & tell me what body part you like planting the
exploding tec arrows!
 
Kevin>>


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Early Nintendo Games
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:06:35 -0600

He cut your fingers?  I still have mine (how much are they worth
anyway?) and he never hurt me yet.

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 99-01-04 13:39:50 EST, you write:
> 
> > My friend and I were talking about the old gyro robot that was used with
> >  the original Nintendo, but neither of us could come up with the name of
> >  the robot or the name of any of the games that could be used with it.
> >  Could anyone help me out here?  Thanks.
> >
> >                                                   Tim
> 
> R.O.B. Robotic Operating Buddy. Two games worked with R.O.B., they were
> Gyromite & I believe something called Stack-Em, but I'm not sure about the
> second one. What kind of buddy likes to cut your fingers is beyond me. Bad
> R.O.B.!
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo history READ NOW!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:07:42 -0600

Man, is there anything you don't know about the history of video
games??!!!

> That would be the Action Set, you got your NES during or after summer of 1988.
> Before that the big NES set was the Robot Set which came with ROB, the Zapper,
> Duck Hunt, and Gyromite. That set debuted in 1985. There was also the Control
> Set which first came with a NES Player's Guide (1986), then the Player's Guide
> was replaced with Super Mario Bros (1987), and then in 1988 when the Action
> Set came out the Control Set was replaced by the Control Deck which came with
> 2 controllers & no game. In 1989 Nintendo introduced the Power Set which
> included 2 controllers, the Zapper, the Power Pad, and the Super Mario
> Bros/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet combo cart. In 1991 the NES came with
> two controllers & Super Mario Bros. 3. Then in 1992 the new NES came out & it
> sold with one controller & no game (as far as I saw..  by then I was paying
> more attention to the SNES so I may be mistaken about the final NES
> configuration).
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Guess What?!  I have Zelda 64 Mp3's!
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:08:35 -0600

My ICQ number is 14311488.  I think I'm getting more soon but I have a
few real good ones (zoras fountain comes to mind).

Wes Day (Wezzer) wrote:
> 
> Wow.  Now isn't that cool.  Too bad you tell us nothing about how to get
> them or anything.  You have ICQ?  You have an FTP?  Can I get some of them
> from you?
> 
> D Fentie wrote:
> 
> > Yup thats right, I have 24 Zelda 64 Mp3's in 'mint' condition!  I found
> > them on a IRC site somewhere.
> >
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:11:09 -0600

All I can say is SQUARE IN THE NUTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

tell me what body part you like planting the
> exploding tec arrows!
> 
> Kevin
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:11:59 -0600

No i have'nt found ammo for it yet but all I have to do is go to Adon
and she refills my ammo!!

Kevin Mapp wrote:
> 
> Assuming you got the grenade launcher at that point in the game, have you
> been finding ammo for it? Does the game replenish ammo for it when your in
> one of the ammo replenishing places?
> 
> >I am serious (swear to god).  It is really weird because when I go
> >underneath it and jump it seems to be like 2 or 3 feet away even when I
> >jump.  My other friend told me thats how he got it and I didnt believe
> >him but just for arguements sake, I kept jumping until it said I had
> >picked up a gernade launcher.
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 - is there a feather in level 1?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:12:53 -0600

I don't think there is a feather in the first level.

Kevin Mapp wrote:
> 
> Is there a feather in level 1 of Turok 2? If so could someone please
> tell me the general vicinity where its at?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kevin
> 
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:23:39 -0500

If the gun I'm thinking of is the one you're trying to get, you have to have
the Breath of Life Talisman first.  With it you can find an underwater
tunnel that will take you around to it.  You can ask me for any other Turok
2 questions, I just beat today and got all the codes :)

-----Original Message-----


>No i have'nt found ammo for it yet but all I have to do is go to Adon
>and she refills my ammo!!
>
>Kevin Mapp wrote:
>>
>> Assuming you got the grenade launcher at that point in the game, have you
>> been finding ammo for it? Does the game replenish ammo for it when your
in
>> one of the ammo replenishing places?
>>
>> >I am serious (swear to god).  It is really weird because when I go
>> >underneath it and jump it seems to be like 2 or 3 feet away even when I
>> >jump.  My other friend told me thats how he got it and I didnt believe
>> >him but just for arguements sake, I kept jumping until it said I had
>> >picked up a gernade launcher.
>>
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:25:08 -0500

I think it's the auto-aim.  I had it on and missed.  I shut it off and it
hit right on target.
-----Original Message-----


>All I can say is SQUARE IN THE NUTS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
>
>tell me what body part you like planting the
>> exploding tec arrows!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] Re. TUROK2 - sniper mode doesn't always work
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:06:37 -0600

Auto aim Blows!---- Your really missing out on a lot of the Excitement
that T2 has to offer if you play the game on Auto aim.  -First off --Its
gonna be a lot more boring since ---its just kinda ---"Point around that
area and shoot."--- Secondly ---Its most fun --When you get "In the
Zone" without Auto aim.----- And 3rd -You can't get as much acuracy in
sniper mode.....-But the most important reason you wanna keep auto Aim
off-------- There is nothing like taking out a dinosoid with a single
head shot when he suprises you when you turn a corner.--- Granted -It
doesn't happen all the time ---- And maybe when It does--It's luck.--
But that Is part of the rush.


My $.02

Corey.



>I think it's the auto-aim.  I had it on and missed.  I shut it off and it
>hit right on target.

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] Turok Money Making Scam.
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:29:06 -0600

Someone   -(I can't remember who)- on here mentioned that they beat T2. 
-Well here is a busisness idea for you.---- Since Acclaim anounced that
They aren't going to release the Big Cheats yet--(You know-
Invinsibility, Full Wepons)- All you people who are beating the game
Could Sell your Memory cards to others that just wanna -Blow stuff up.
-Don't know what Kinda price you'd get.--- But If you had 2 memory cards
you could just keep making copies.--- You could sell your cards for 15$
over the cost of the Card and Shipping and Handeling would be a breeze.


Just an Idea.---- I'll Buy one.--Only COD. tho.

Corey.



PS. -Do it Quick tho.---Acclaim will realese the Codes in about 2 1/2
Months.

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok Money Making Scam.
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:38:26 -0800

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I know the codes for all of that.  But I believe you still must beet the =
game.  Anyway, go to ebworld and look at the device called a Dex-Drive.  =
It lets you put your game saves onto your PC.  It only coss about $40 =
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  Someone   -(I can't remember who)- on here mentioned that they beat =
T2.=20
  -Well here is a busisness idea for you.---- Since Acclaim anounced =
that
  They aren't going to release the Big Cheats yet--(You know-
  Invinsibility, Full Wepons)- All you people who are beating the game
  Could Sell your Memory cards to others that just wanna -Blow stuff up.
  -Don't know what Kinda price you'd get.--- But If you had 2 memory =
cards
  you could just keep making copies.--- You could sell your cards for =
15$
  over the cost of the Card and Shipping and Handeling would be a =
breeze.


  Just an Idea.---- I'll Buy one.--Only COD. tho.

  Corey.



  PS. -Do it Quick tho.---Acclaim will realese the Codes in about 2 1/2
  Months.

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok Money Making Scam.
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:43:16 -0500

>Someone   -(I can't remember who)- on here mentioned that they beat T2. 
>-Well here is a busisness idea for you.---- Since Acclaim anounced that
>They aren't going to release the Big Cheats yet--(You know-
>Invinsibility, Full Wepons)- All you people who are beating the game
>Could Sell your Memory cards to others that just wanna -Blow stuff up.
>-Don't know what Kinda price you'd get.--- But If you had 2 memory cards
>you could just keep making copies.--- You could sell your cards for 15$
>over the cost of the Card and Shipping and Handeling would be a breeze.

There aren't any codes for all weapons, invincibility, etc. When you pass
certain boards, you get those cheats. Just like GE. You can go to
http://www.turokzone.com to see exactly how to do it.


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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 BIG CHEATS.
Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:52:19 -0600

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O.K. ---I can See we will have to go through this at least once a
week---- At the bottom of this letter you will find many codes for T2
that You don't have to beat the game--- YOU JUST ENTER THEM.-- NOT LIKE
GOLDEN EYE.--- There ARE codes for the better Cheats to-- But Acclaim
will not be realeasing them for another 2-3 months.--- I am forwarding
this letter from the lead designer of Turok 2 --- Please do not harrase
him--- as his E-mail address is on this post.------ FOR GOD'S SAKE ,THE
CODES ARE NOT GOLDEN-EYE STYLE!

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This is some wack shiznit!!  There's no way were gonna get the big cheat 
for another couple of months.

STARLIGHT RUNNER UPDATE #2  TUROK PHENOM!



There are only a few days to go before the big Starlight Runner web site
is set to fly  complete with secret pages devoted to what all of you
are calling one of the greatest video games of all time: Turok 2: Seeds
of Evil!



Before I give you a preview of the kind of info youll get on the site,
let me answer a few quick questions that keep popping up on the IMs I
get, and in the temp Chat Room at www.redlightaugust.com:



Why cant you give me cheats?!?

The reason is simple: Iguana does not want me to, and they asked me not
to. I promised them I wouldnt give out the major cheats to the game,
and I live up to my word. If you ask me for the major cheats, you are
asking me to break my word, and thats not honorable. Bug me about them
too much, and you wont hear from me any more. There are a few fun
cheats at the bottom of this e-mail that have been published elsewhere 
go get em!



When are the major cheats coming out?

Acclaim will leak out cheats one at a time over the next couple of
months. The reason they are doing this is to allow for certain magazines
to have exclusives on cheats, and so that you wont immediately use the
cheats to break the game. Its the difference between many of you
using the cheats now and putting the game up on the shelf by New Years,
or playing and replaying the game as the cheats slowly come out.



Why dont other game designer typesuests for cheats. Some (and certainly
not all of) you dont even say hello, or talk about what they liked
about the game  they just say, GIMME CHEATS! Who would want to put up
with that? I still intend to stick around, because the vast majority of
you have been great!



When is StarlightRunner.com going up?

Starlightrunner.com will take the place of Redlightaugust.com for those
of you who enjoy my comic book, video game and digital art work. Youll
be able to access the site with this name in a week or so, and youll be
sent the URLs for the secret pages through this newsletter!



Im stuck! Please help me...!

If I had to stop working every time someone got stuck in a level, Id
never get anything done! Please use the chat room, the other Turok
sites, and the game guides to get you through the game itself. I plan to
arrange an area on my new site for people looking for help for this and
other games!



TUROK II: SEEDS OF EVIL - CHEAT CODES

(Courtesy of Antagonist, Inc.  AOL Keyword: ANT or www.ant.com)

To enter these codes go to the *enter cheat* menu and type in the
desired

code. Then press start during a new game to access the cheat menu.

Big Head mode- UBERNOODLE

Stick Men mode- HOLASTICKBOY

Big Hands and Feet- STOMPEM

Small Enemies- PIPSQUEAK

Pen and Ink mode- IGOTABFA

Gouraud Shading- WHATSATEXTUREMAP

And from Starlight Runner of the Week Mitchell Legault:

Cool Blackout mood - LIGHTSOUT

Mitchell hunted and pecked his way through the alphabet to come up with
this hot and gorgeous code! Send out one round of applause!

Also, thanks a lot to K2 PsYCHO for helping out other players in the
Chat Room!

CALL FOR T2 CHAMPS!

Who has actually FINISHED Turok 2? Write and let me know! Send me a
detailed account of your final battle with the Primagen, and Ill put it
in next weeks Update!





NEXT WEEK: Details on the T2 Playmates Toys  and their interesting
secrets!



Jeff Gomez
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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 12:17:05 GMT-4

> Date:          Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:33:24 -0600
> From:          D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
> Organization:  @Home Network
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > In a message dated 99-01-04 19:15:48 EST, you write:
> > 
> > > Where in the level is the hallway?
> > >  -Sean
> > 
> > Two doors down from the toilet. What are you talking about?
> > 
> > Trey
> 
> I agree, asking where the hallway in the second level of T2 is just like
> saying where is the snow in Canada... EVERYWHERE!
> 
Hey! stop gribbling about Canada, i am from there ya know!
:-)


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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: [N64] Snow
Date: 05 Jan 1999 13:23:00 -0500 

>>
>> I agree, asking where the hallway in the second level of T2 is just 
>>like saying where is the snow in Canada... EVERYWHERE!
>

>Hey! stop gribbling about Canada, i am from there ya know! 
>:-)

     As do I, but what I don't understand is why we get generalized 
as having all the snow when mid-western U.S. just got clobbered as 
well. I believe Chicago just got about 2 feet.

Russ

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From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
Subject: [N64] WcW v's nWo revenge query
Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:32:30 +0000

All,

Why can't I seem to pin anyone? Am I being totally thick or what?
There dosn't seem to be a pin button on the pad!

Any help greatly appreciated.

thanks,
tWiSt

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 12:55:34 -0600

I am also from Canada but you have to give jokes and take them on the
net (I'm not even going to get into the kinda troubles the united states
has...)

STEPHANE QUIMPERE wrote:
> 
> > Date:          Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:33:24 -0600
> > From:          D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
> > Organization:  @Home Network
> > To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject:       Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 2 - how do you get the rifle type gun?
> > Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
> 
> > TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 99-01-04 19:15:48 EST, you write:
> > >
> > > > Where in the level is the hallway?
> > > >  -Sean
> > >
> > > Two doors down from the toilet. What are you talking about?
> > >
> > > Trey
> >
> > I agree, asking where the hallway in the second level of T2 is just like
> > saying where is the snow in Canada... EVERYWHERE!
> >
> Hey! stop gribbling about Canada, i am from there ya know!
> :-)
> 
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From: "E. Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Snow
Date: 05 Jan 1999 11:02:50 PST

Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything. 
Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30 
something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave me 
enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...

elliot



>From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
>To: "\"n64@lists.xmission.com\" " <n64@lists.xmission.com>,
>        "\"STEPHANE QUIMPERE\" " <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
>Subject: [N64] Snow
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:23:00 -0500
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>>>
>>> I agree, asking where the hallway in the second level of T2 is just 
>>>like saying where is the snow in Canada... EVERYWHERE!
>>
>
>>Hey! stop gribbling about Canada, i am from there ya know! 
>>:-)
>
>     As do I, but what I don't understand is why we get generalized 
>as having all the snow when mid-western U.S. just got clobbered as 
>well. I believe Chicago just got about 2 feet.
>
>Russ
>
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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] TUROK @ - level 2 questions 
Date: 05 Jan 1999 15:39 EST

Comrades,

I have 3 questions regarding Turok2 - level2

- how do you get to the last 'sister of despair' of whatever she's called. The
  one where you can see the blue gates up on the ledge near the end of the
  level.

- where is the last 'soul gate'? I have found the one where you must go down
  a long hallway. Its also right by the hallway that goes up and leads to
  a teleporter.

- what talismans/if any are found in level 2?


Thanks

Kevin


*BCKH423* can you answer the above, since you said you've beaten the game?

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 16:13:11 EST

Okay, in Zelda, in the Lost Woods, there is a place to plany a magic bean.
Near that area there is a small, hidden hole over where the butterflies are.
When you go in there, there is a Forest Theater, where young Link wins things
according to which mask he wears. What do you get in here other than Rupes?
And What mask do you have to use?

~Matt

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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK @ - level 2 questions 
Date: 05 Jan 1999 16:35:04 -0500

When you're near the exit portal area, go over the bridge and through the
door.  There should be a doorway leading to a bridge.  Exploring this area,
you should find the last soul gate and the third sister of despair.  You can
find the feather as well in this area.
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>Comrades,
>
>I have 3 questions regarding Turok2 - level2
>
>- how do you get to the last 'sister of despair' of whatever she's called.
The
>  one where you can see the blue gates up on the ledge near the end of the
>  level.
>
>- where is the last 'soul gate'? I have found the one where you must go
down
>  a long hallway. Its also right by the hallway that goes up and leads to
>  a teleporter.
>
>- what talismans/if any are found in level 2?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Kevin
>
>
>*BCKH423* can you answer the above, since you said you've beaten the game?
>
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] WcW v's nWo revenge query
Date: 05 Jan 1999 16:35:47 -0500

The L button is for pin.
-----Original Message-----


>All,
>
>Why can't I seem to pin anyone? Am I being totally thick or what?
>There dosn't seem to be a pin button on the pad!
>
>Any help greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks,
>tWiSt
>
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK @ - level 2 questions 
Date: 05 Jan 1999 16:08:57 -0800

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-Sean

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  Comrades,

  I have 3 questions regarding Turok2 - level2

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  Thanks

  Kevin


  *BCKH423* can you answer the above, since you said you've beaten the =
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:07:35 -0500

>Okay, in Zelda, in the Lost Woods, there is a place to plany a magic bean.
>Near that area there is a small, hidden hole over where the butterflies are.
>When you go in there, there is a Forest Theater, where young Link wins things
>according to which mask he wears. What do you get in here other than Rupes?
>And What mask do you have to use?

Skull Mask


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 19:33:13 EST

Huh? The one I already gave to the kid in the graveyard? Then I'm screwed.

~Matt

<<<<Okay, in Zelda, in the Lost Woods, there is a place to plany a magic bean.
Near that area there is a small, hidden hole over where the butterflies are.
When you go in there, there is a Forest Theater, where young Link wins things
according to which mask he wears. What do you get in here other than Rupes?
And What mask do you have to use>>>>

<<Skull Mask>>

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:59:48 -0500

One you sell all of the masks (there are four of them) you can go back to
the mask shop at any time and 'borrow' and one from the eight that are there.


>Huh? The one I already gave to the kid in the graveyard? Then I'm screwed.
>
>~Matt
>
><<<<Okay, in Zelda, in the Lost Woods, there is a place to plany a magic
bean.
>Near that area there is a small, hidden hole over where the butterflies are.
>When you go in there, there is a Forest Theater, where young Link wins things
>according to which mask he wears. What do you get in here other than Rupes?
>And What mask do you have to use>>>>
>
><<Skull Mask>>
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 20:01:11 EST

In a message dated 1/5/99 1:14:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bastion007@aol.com
writes:

<< Okay, in Zelda, in the Lost Woods, there is a place to plany a magic bean.
 Near that area there is a small, hidden hole over where the butterflies are.
 When you go in there, there is a Forest Theater, where young Link wins things
 according to which mask he wears. What do you get in here other than Rupes?
 And What mask do you have to use?
 
 ~Mat >>

	If you wear the Skull mask the head Deku will give a bag that allows you to
carry more Deku Nuts.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 20:03:50 EST

In a message dated 1/5/99 4:38:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bastion007@aol.com
writes:

<< Huh? The one I already gave to the kid in the graveyard? Then I'm screwed.
 
 ~Matt >>

	No the Skull mask is the mask with horns.  The Spooky mask is the one that
looks like the ReDead.

--David

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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Zelda Help
Date: 05 Jan 1999 19:18:06 -0600 (CST)

I cant find the 4th carpenter in the thieves hideout. Where is he? Also
navi goes green in this one spot in there. Wuts up there.


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Help
Date: 05 Jan 1999 19:31:16 -0600

Ha ha, I remember that part!  The 4th guy I missed was: go to the very
top and there should be a gap in between where navi goes green and you. 
Jump down off the ledge and there should be a door there.  Be warned
though that when you enter this area, it looks EXACTLY like some of the
other places until you get way into it.  (thats what screwed me up, I
always went in 2 inches and said 'ah, i've already been here' and
left).  I can't quite remember what was up there but you can either use
the long shot to shoot onto the chest or call Pierre the scarecrow...

LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:
> 
> I cant find the 4th carpenter in the thieves hideout. Where is he? Also
> navi goes green in this one spot in there. Wuts up there.
> 
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From: TerryLLewis@webtv.net (Terry Lewis)
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 21:24:36 -0500 (EST)

  The answer to this one is probably in the game manual. The problem is,
I can't find mine.
  When you initially begin your game and you open up the game file,
there is a three digit number, along with the hearts and medals you have
earned. My question is, what does this number mean or what does it
represent?
  Once again, thanks in advance to the member(s) who take the time to
respond. There is a strange comfort in knowing that I'm not the only
person crazy enough to spend countless hours of my life playing
videogames. Should I be concerned?:)

Best Wishes,
Terry


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 20:27:01 -0500

>  When you initially begin your game and you open up the game file,
>there is a three digit number, along with the hearts and medals you have
>earned. My question is, what does this number mean or what does it
>represent?

Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your case,
huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died. Looks
like someone needs some practice...

>  Once again, thanks in advance to the member(s) who take the time to
>respond. There is a strange comfort in knowing that I'm not the only
>person crazy enough to spend countless hours of my life playing
>videogames. Should I be concerned?:)

Countless? Uh, maybe you should be concerned. :)


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 21:37:24 EST

Don't worry, Terry. I mean, so what if none of has a social life ... or
friends ... and is failing school ... and thinbks that - WHOA! Sorry there.
That number is the amount of times you've died in the game.

~Matt

<<Once again, thanks in advance to the member(s) who take the time to
respond. There is a strange comfort in knowing that I'm not the only
person crazy enough to spend countless hours of my life playing
videogames. Should I be concerned?:)

Best Wishes,
Terry>>

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:07:20 -0600

Hey, cut him some slack!  I think that it is 3 zeros hence triple digit
(he could have died 003 times for all we know), that DOESNT mean that he
has died hundred of times.  Geez wake up you guys.

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Don't worry, Terry. I mean, so what if none of has a social life ... or
> friends ... and is failing school ... and thinbks that - WHOA! Sorry there.
> That number is the amount of times you've died in the game.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> <<Once again, thanks in advance to the member(s) who take the time to
> respond. There is a strange comfort in knowing that I'm not the only
> person crazy enough to spend countless hours of my life playing
> videogames. Should I be concerned?:)
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Terry>>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] My N64 was not well
Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:12:08 EST

Okay. Maybe this has nothing to do with what happened but I'll put it on the
record. Cureently plugged into my N64 is 4 controllers, 4 Rumble Paks, and the
Expansion Pak. So here's what happened. I was playing Mario Kart 64 and after
winning some races I decided to play a bit of Wave Race 64. So I turned of the
N64, pulled out MK64 and put in Wave Race 64. I turned on my N64 and to my
surprise I got a blank screen. But not just that, there was some slow music
that sounded like death metal electric guitar with banshee like screams here &
there. After listening to it for a few minutes I realized the music was the
Wave Race 64 theme slowed down greatly, like a 78 playing on 16 (if you don't
know what that means you're too young) and the "banshee screams" were the sea-
gulls just gulling (?) very slowly. I hit Reset and bit happened again. So I
powered off and powered back on and it was fine. Has this happened to anybody
else?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:16:48 EST

In a message dated 99-01-05 19:38:17 EST, you write:

> Huh? The one I already gave to the kid in the graveyard? Then I'm screwed.
>  
>  ~Matt

The Skull Mask. The one you Already gave to the Skull Kid in the Lost Woods.
But once you sell the 4 masks you can borrow any of the seven masks.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:22:05 EST

In a message dated 99-01-05 21:25:23 EST, you write:

> When you initially begin your game and you open up the game file,
>  there is a three digit number, along with the hearts and medals you have
>  earned. My question is, what does this number mean or what does it
>  represent?
>    Once again, thanks in advance to the member(s) who take the time to
>  respond. There is a strange comfort in knowing that I'm not the only
>  person crazy enough to spend countless hours of my life playing
>  videogames. Should I be concerned?:)
>  
>  Best Wishes,
>  Terry

That's how many times you died.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Help
Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:20:40 EST

In a message dated 99-01-05 20:18:49 EST, you write:

> I cant find the 4th carpenter in the thieves hideout. Where is he? Also
>  navi goes green in this one spot in there. Wuts up there.

The tresure chest I think what is you're talking about. It contains a heart
piece. As for the 4th carpenter, I'm stumped too.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:23:42 EST

In a message dated 99-01-05 21:28:14 EST, tmcshea writes:

> Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your case,
>  huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died. Looks
>  like someone needs some practice...

Yes, Triple Digits. Mine says 003. Triple digits if I ever saw it. 

Trey

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:08:05 +30000


oh stupid me, I thought those triple digits means the number of hours
spent in the game.  It seem true too,  I thought I spend 4 hours so it 
says 004, and now it says 012 so I thought I spent 12 hours playing the game.
oh well, I guess I die around once every hour  :)

-Vi

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From: win-thug@juno.com (Winston Chan)
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 05 Jan 1999 21:05:07 -0800

OH, I didn't know what that meant either. Mine is 21. I guess it's from
those damn chickens. I just get bored once in a while and bomb a chicken.
BTW, when you get the final spiritual stone for the young Link, what is
the average number of heart thingys one is supposed to have. I mean
average when I say, not globe trotting just to find one heart container.
I only have 6.75. I think I am missing one, maybe from the spider queen
thing, maybe I did not see it. Thanx

Winston Chan


On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:23:42 EST TreyTable@aol.com writes:
>In a message dated 99-01-05 21:28:14 EST, tmcshea writes:
>
>> Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your 
>case,
>>  huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died. 
>Looks
>>  like someone needs some practice...
>
>Yes, Triple Digits. Mine says 003. Triple digits if I ever saw it. 
>
>Trey
>
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From: TerryLLewis@webtv.net (Terry Lewis)
Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) A basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:48:27 -0500 (EST)

tmcshee writes:
"Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your
case, huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died.
Looks like someone needs some practice..."


  Gee, looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this
morning!  Rest assured that my personal three digit number begins with
two zeros. The number of times I have died is not 999!
Be that as it may, I'm sure I could never aspire to be at the level of
gaming excellance that tmcshee must find himself.  I must apologize to
him if he found my question to be so trivial and annoying that it caused
him to respond in such a way.:)
  Thanks again to everyone who took the time to answer my question. 
Terry
     


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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK @ - level 2 questions
Date: 06 Jan 1999 02:25:59 -0500

    Could someone tell me where da HECK is the end to Level 2?  I have everything
in it but cant seem to find the gate to leave!

DR


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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] My N64 was not well
Date: 06 Jan 1999 07:02:00 -0500 

     Trey, I wrote in a while back abbout Zelda erasing my games, and 
at that time I also described a similar speeding and slowing of the 
soundtrack, like someone placing their finger up against the edge of a 
78 (no I'm not too young:)). I never did really understand how 
something digital could screw up in such an analog fashion.

Russ

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>

Okay. Maybe this has nothing to do with what happened but I'll put it on the

record. Cureently plugged into my N64 is 4 controllers, 4 Rumble Paks, and
the 
Expansion Pak. So here's what happened. I was playing Mario Kart 64 and
after 
winning some races I decided to play a bit of Wave Race 64. So I turned of
the 
N64, pulled out MK64 and put in Wave Race 64. I turned on my N64 and to my 
surprise I got a blank screen. But not just that, there was some slow music
that
sounded like death metal electric guitar with banshee like screams here &
there.
After listening to it for a few minutes I realized the music was the Wave
Race 
64 theme slowed down greatly, like a 78 playing on 16 (if you don't know
what 
that means you're too young) and the "banshee screams" were the sea- gulls
just 
gulling (?) very slowly. I hit Reset and bit happened again. So I powered
off 
and powered back on and it was fine. Has this happened to anybody else?

Trey


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From: Garrett Winters <gargoyle@iol.ie>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 BIG CHEATS.
Date: 06 Jan 1999 12:33:03 +0000

Corey Jaeckel writes
>O.K. ---I can See we will have to go through this at least once a
>week---- At the bottom of this letter you will find many codes for T2
>that You don't have to beat the game--- YOU JUST ENTER THEM.-- NOT LIKE
>GOLDEN EYE.--- There ARE codes for the better Cheats to-- But Acclaim
>will not be realeasing them for another 2-3 months.--- I am forwarding
>this letter from the lead designer of Turok 2 --- Please do not harrase
>him--- as his E-mail address is on this post.------ FOR GOD'S SAKE ,THE
>CODES ARE NOT GOLDEN-EYE STYLE!
now what was the point of sending us that attachment twice in the past 
week. I already got it from you on this list and didn't particularly want 
it again. BTW what is wrong with cut and paste to get the info into the 
email as you are not meant to send attachments.. ever.. period.. got it?
Garrett Winters

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 10:07:00 -0500 

>Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything. 
>Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30 
>something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave 
>me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...

>elliot

     We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! It's 
probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.

Russ


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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 10:08:47 -0500



Lapenna, Russ wrote:

> >Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything.
> >Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30
> >something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave
> >me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...
>
> >elliot
>
>      We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! It's
> probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.

Wasn't it 78?

>
>
> Russ
>
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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 10:02:31 PST

>>Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually 
>>everything. Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 
>>with -30 something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I 
>>think.  Gave me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the 
>>forest temple...
>>
>>elliot
>
>     We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! 
>it's probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.
>
>Russ

The worst blizzard in my 17-year-old memory was January 26, 1996.  
Drifts as tall as our house the next day!!  Of course, I live in central 
WI, so we didn't have the lake-effect snow from the Great Lakes this 
time around... so it wasn't so bad.

Moblin 64

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 10:34:00 PST

I was only a toddler at the time so I can't remember the exact year...


>From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
>To: "\"n64@lists.xmission.com\" " <n64@lists.xmission.com>,
>        "\"E. Jefferson\" " <eljam@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [N64] Snow
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:07:00 -0500
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>>Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything. 
>>Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30 
>>something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave 
>>me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...
>
>>elliot
>
>     We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! 
It's 
>probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.
>
>Russ
>
>
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 13:27:54 -0500

At 11:23 PM 1/5/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 99-01-05 21:28:14 EST, tmcshea writes:
>
>> Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your case,
>>  huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died. Looks
>>  like someone needs some practice...
>
>Yes, Triple Digits. Mine says 003. Triple digits if I ever saw it. 

Um, I was just joking. I thought it was obvious even with out the
obligatory ":)" at the end. Of course I knew what he was talking about, I
was just playing around. I mean, he'd have to be really bad to die 100
times, especially since it seems as though he is towards the beginging of
the game. He'd have to spend more times dying then living. I'm sorry if you
though I was insulting you. For now one, I'll add the smiley at the end of
my jokes.


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) A basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 13:30:02 -0500

At 12:48 AM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote:
>tmcshee writes:
>"Triple digits? No offense man, but you suck. That little (or in your
>case, huge) number there is the number of times in the game you've died.
>Looks like someone needs some practice..."
>
>
>  Gee, looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this
>morning!  Rest assured that my personal three digit number begins with
>two zeros. The number of times I have died is not 999!
>Be that as it may, I'm sure I could never aspire to be at the level of
>gaming excellance that tmcshee must find himself.  I must apologize to
>him if he found my question to be so trivial and annoying that it caused
>him to respond in such a way.:)
>  Thanks again to everyone who took the time to answer my question. 
>Terry

Do I get a thanks since I explained that it was all just a joke in a
previous email? Please?


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 13:31:03 -0500

At 10:08 AM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>Lapenna, Russ wrote:
>
>> >Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything.
>> >Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30
>> >something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave
>> >me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...
>>
>> >elliot
>>
>>      We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! It's
>> probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.
>
>Wasn't it 78?

It was January 79 here in Chicago.


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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] TUROK @ - level 2 questions
Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:06 EST

> Could someone tell me where da HECK is the end to Level 2?  I have
> everything in it but cant seem to find the gate to leave!

The entrance to the portal to exit level 2 is in the courtyard that
contains the portal where you take the level 2 feather to get the
'leap of faith' talisman. From this same area, you can also see the exit
portal and the usual blue gates that symbolize the 'Sista's of despair'
area.

If you walk down the ramp that leads into the water you will see another
ramp, ( I think its straight ahead ) that had been blocked previously, is
now open and leads up to the exit portal. If this ramp is still blocked,
then you have missed a lever somewhere.

Note : Make sure you have completed all the objectives before you enter
       this portal. Otherwise the game will say 'Mission Failed', and
       will put you back all the way to the friggin beginning of the level
       where you have to ride the dino. I found out the hard way!

       Happy Hunting!

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 BIG CHEATS.
Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:16:17 -0600

Garrett Winters <gargoyle@iol.ie> writes:


>now what was the point of sending us that attachment twice in the past 
>week. I already got it from you on this list and didn't particularly >want 
>it again. BTW what is wrong with cut and paste to get the info into the 
>email as you are not meant to send attachments.. ever.. period.. got >it?
>Garrett Winters


There certainly is nothing wronge with Cut & Paste.  -However --that
document was type : XmTextField    -Which my Unix Computer does not
support.--- I will Say that As far as Cut & Paste goes--- Unix is where
it is at .... But It is very narrow / specified in it's Text type
support.   -The only advise I can give any one who doesn't want to see
that post again--- Would be.....Don't say that the Cheats In Turok 2 are
handled just like they were handled in Golden-eye.   -You WILL be able
to enter a BIG CHEAT CODE that will give all that you want.--- And you
will not have to beat the game-In order for it to work.-- However these
Codes will not be available untill mid-March.



Corey.


>O.K. ---I can See we will have to go through this at least once a
>week---- At the bottom of this letter you will find many codes for T2
>that You don't have to beat the game--- YOU JUST ENTER THEM.-- NOT LIKE
>GOLDEN EYE.--- There ARE codes for the better Cheats to-- But Acclaim
>will not be realeasing them for another 2-3 months.--- I am forwarding
>this letter from the lead designer of Turok 2 --- Please do not harrase
>him--- as his E-mail address is on this post.------ FOR GOD'S SAKE ,THE
>CODES ARE NOT GOLDEN-EYE STYLE!

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From: MrTwoson@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Forest Theater
Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:33:29 EST

you can get a larger Capacity for Deku nuts and Deku Sticks, you have to use
the mask of Truth for nuts, but i dunno about seeds

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:42:34 EST

Wrong response, uh, D. I was refering to MY lack of a life, no Terry's. And
the guy who thoguh he has died 100-odd times was someone else.

~Matt

<<Hey, cut him some slack!  I think that it is 3 zeros hence triple digit
(he could have died 003 times for all we know), that DOESNT mean that he
has died hundred of times.  Geez wake up you guys.>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 18:01:48 EST

How many arrows, Deku Nuts, Deku sticks, bombs, and Deku seeds (for the
slingshot) can you carry? And where do you find all these upgrades?

~Matt

PS: Currently, I can hold 40 arrows, 50 Deku seeds, 30 Deku nuts, 40 bombs,
and 20 Deku Sticks.

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 07 Jan 1999 09:58:31 +1100

At 18:01 06-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>How many arrows, Deku Nuts, Deku sticks, bombs, and Deku seeds (for the
>slingshot) can you carry? And where do you find all these upgrades?
>
>~Matt
>
>PS: Currently, I can hold 40 arrows, 50 Deku seeds, 30 Deku nuts, 40 bombs,
>and 20 Deku Sticks.
>

Score >1500 in the Gerudo horseback archery game for a quiver upgrade. If
you wear the skull mask at the forest stage, you'll get a deku stick upgrade.

alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] A very basic Zelda question
Date: 06 Jan 1999 17:37:02 -0600

Yeah, I guess thats one of the mysteries to... erm... life.  That and
what the heck does the 'D' stand for in D Fentie (any guesses?)

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Wrong response, uh, D. I was refering to MY lack of a life, no Terry's. And
> the guy who thoguh he has died 100-odd times was someone else.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> <<Hey, cut him some slack!  I think that it is 3 zeros hence triple digit
> (he could have died 003 times for all we know), that DOESNT mean that he
> has died hundred of times.  Geez wake up you guys.>>
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 17:37:35 -0600

speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.

Alex wrote:
> 
> At 18:01 06-01-99 EST, you wrote:
> >How many arrows, Deku Nuts, Deku sticks, bombs, and Deku seeds (for the
> >slingshot) can you carry? And where do you find all these upgrades?
> >
> >~Matt
> >
> >PS: Currently, I can hold 40 arrows, 50 Deku seeds, 30 Deku nuts, 40 bombs,
> >and 20 Deku Sticks.
> >
> 
> Score >1500 in the Gerudo horseback archery game for a quiver upgrade. If
> you wear the skull mask at the forest stage, you'll get a deku stick upgrade.
> 
> alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au
> 
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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Reader's Digest disses Video Games
Date: 06 Jan 1999 18:30:20 EST

This is from the Business Wire:

Response to Reader's Digest Report On Video Games

     WASHINGTON, D.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 6, 1999--

     The following is a statement by Douglas Lowenstein, President,
Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA):

     "Readers Digest's January, 1999 Special Report on Computer Violence dealt
a blow to the publication's well-earned reputation for balanced reporting. In
fact, it was perhaps the most biased and unbalanced reporting I've ever seen
on this subject.

     "The article completely ignored the vast majority of academic research --
provided to Readers Digest's reporter -- that disproves its basic premise that
violent video games are harmful. It also did not contain a word or reference
from an hour-long interview I gave to the reporter responding to some of the
concerns he raised.

     "In one major respect, the article did a real disservice. Readers Digest
has always given its readers useful information to help them in their daily
lives. But this article made no effort to educate parents on how to use the
video game rating system so they can make informed purchasing decisions to
screen out products they do not want in their homes. What a lost opportunity.

"Here are a few key facts the article omitted:      "1) The vast majority of
independent academic research has consistently found that there is no basis
for the concern that violent video games lead to aggressive behavior.
Moreover, the research finds that kids have no problem making distinctions
between the obviously fantasy world of video games and the real world. There's
a difference between making believe you're shooting aliens and shooting real
people in a schoolyard. Kids know the difference; apparently, sensationalistic
reporters don't.

     "Readers Digest had access to many of these studies and ignored them all.
Instead, the article substituted opinions for peer-reviewed research.
Interestingly, the article contained ten substantive quotes on the violence
issue, and eight were from industry critics. It also cited two persons as
experts who have not done any empirical research on the issue and cited no
comments from those who have actually done so but disagree with your
reporter's position. The article may be more colorful when written this way,
but the journalism suffers and facts are distorted.

    "2) The article leaves the impression that much of the video games in the
market are violent. This is factually wrong. Seven out of 10 games are rated
appropriate for users over the age of six and nearly nine out of 10 are rated
appropriate for users 13 and older. Moreover, most of the top selling PC and
video games are appropriate for all users and contain no problematic content.

     "3) Two-thirds of those who play PC and video games are adults over the
age of 18. In other words, this is no longer an industry producing products
for kids. It is making entertainment for people of all ages, tastes, and
interests.

     "4) Some games are clearly inappropriate for children and that's why we
have what even critics agree is the best rating system in the country. The
purpose of the rating system is to give parents with concerns about certain
types of content the tools to make informed choices. But parents must accept
their responsibility to control what their children play, just as they have
responsibility for controlling the movies, books, and records they see, read,
and hear.

     "Of note is the fact that 90 percent of those who actually buy games are
over 18, meaning that parents do have the power to regulate this form of
entertainment. Too bad the article didn't help them understand how to use the
ratings. Parents should go on-line to www.esrb.org to learn about video game
ratings.

     "For evidence of the public's response to this sensationalistic article,
simply listen to what Readers Digest's readers themselves have to say. The
overwhelming majority of readers who responded on the Readers Digest web site
forum (http://www.readersdigest.com) have characterized this article as
nothing more than biased reporting.

     "There are many more points with which to take issue. But I will leave
with the comment of one observer Readers Digest chose not to cite (though I
supplied the name).

     "'Violence involving children in America reflects economic deprivation
and domestic abuse, not on what video games children choose to play, or what
ads they see,' said Professor Henry Jenkins, Director, Comparative Media
Studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 'Indeed most credible
academic research does not support  a connection between mature-audience video
games and youth violence.'      "Jenkins also said, 'Aggressive imagery exists
in video games, just as it has in children's stories and play for several 100
years. But it is easy to misunderstand the social and cultural significance of
those images by removing them from context. Children are adept at making
distinctions between play and reality, distinctions that are central to their
ability to take pleasure in video games.

     "'An effort to blame video games and other entertainment for violent
behavior among children trivializes the need we have in this country to deal
with the all-too-real issues that truly lead to violence.'"

     The Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA) is the only U.S.
trade association exclusively dedicated to serving the public affairs and
business interests of companies that publish video and computer games for
video game consoles (such as Nintendo 64, Sega Saturn, and Sony PlayStation),
personal computers and the Internet.

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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:12:52 -0600

.............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead..........right,
something like that anyway.

		Stone Cold Spencer
PS. UFC 18 is this friday!!!! Who is excited?!?!? Bas Rutten's first
appearance!!!!!

>speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Snow
Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:06:42 -0600

The best snow storm was April 1, 1997 spring break was extended a few days.
It was awesome. After it snowed lots, there was like 4 feet packed against
my house door, we had to push hard to get out. It snowed for like 3 days.
Man, what an awesome april fools joke, by god.
I would say that I played my N64 the whole time (to make it on topic) but I
didn't have one then.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>>Lapenna, Russ wrote:
>>
>>> >Just short of two feet, but enough to shut down virtually everything.
>>> >Then, we're also in a big deep freeze.  Woke up to -13 with -30
>>> >something windchill.  Biggest blizzard here since '79, I think.  Gave
>>> >me enough time to get into Zelda and make it to the forest temple...
>>>
>>> >elliot
>>>
>>>      We got exactly the same here in the Toronto area, it's brutal!! It's
>>> probably the blizzard of '77 you're referring to.
>>
>>Wasn't it 78?
>
>It was January 79 here in Chicago.
>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 20:27:52 -0600

And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
enough to do so or do I hold the record?

Spencer wrote:
> 
> .............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
> right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead..........right,
> something like that anyway.
> 
>                 Stone Cold Spencer
> PS. UFC 18 is this friday!!!! Who is excited?!?!? Bas Rutten's first
> appearance!!!!!
> 
> >speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.
> >(at horseback archery)
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:17:39 EST

The said article can be found at

http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencearey
ourkidsatrisk.htm

What kind of a parent would let a 10 & 12 year old play a game for those 13 &
older? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

If any game taught me to kill it had to be Death Race 2000 back in 1978.

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 20:31:25 -0600

Ah yes, this also brought to mind, everyone think about this: isnt you
index finger your MIDDLE finger? Isnt it the pointer finger that you put
perpendicular to the thumb?  Just try putting your index finger at 90
degrees for a second... doesnt work does it?  Back to N64, my favorite
place in the game was the forest temple because of the kick @ss music
and the cool and inventive puzzles.  What is your guys' favorite?

Spencer wrote:
> 
> .............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
> right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead
>                 Stone Cold Spencer

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 06 Jan 1999 20:33:17 -0600

Might I inquire Trey, how old are you?  Sorry if this is kind of off
topic but you always make references to stuff made in the "old" days (to
me they are old).  Have you seen the entire gaming industry rise before
your eyes?

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> The said article can be found at
> 
> http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencearey
> ourkidsatrisk.htm
> 
> What kind of a parent would let a 10 & 12 year old play a game for those 13 &
> older? Sounds like bad parenting to me.
> 
> If any game taught me to kill it had to be Death Race 2000 back in 1978.
> 
> Trey
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Fishing
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:27:47 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 21:20:22 EST, you write:

> And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
>  to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
>  with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
>  enough to do so or do I hold the record?

Haven't even tried it yet. I'll let ya know when I do. Now does anybody have
some tips for fishing? All I seem to be able to catch is 6 & 7 pound fish; and
that's as Teenage Link. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:33:01 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 21:23:41 EST, you write:

> Ah yes, this also brought to mind, everyone think about this: isnt you
>  index finger your MIDDLE finger? Isnt it the pointer finger that you put
>  perpendicular to the thumb?  Just try putting your index finger at 90
>  degrees for a second... doesnt work does it?  Back to N64, my favorite
>  place in the game was the forest temple because of the kick @ss music
>  and the cool and inventive puzzles.  What is your guys' favorite?
>  

Your Index Finger is what you refer to as your "Pointer Finger". My favorite
part is still fighting the Dodongo. Dodongo dislikes smoke. That and seeing
Hyrule 7 years later for the first time. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:37:44 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 21:25:41 EST, D. Fentie wrote:

> Might I inquire Trey, how old are you?  Sorry if this is kind of off
>  topic but you always make references to stuff made in the "old" days (to
>  me they are old).  Have you seen the entire gaming industry rise before
>  your eyes?

Not the entire industry. I got aboard this train in 1977 with the Atari 2600.
I'm 24 if you must know. 

Trey

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 07 Jan 1999 13:18:54 +1100

At 21:33 06-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 99-01-06 21:23:41 EST, you write:
>
>> Ah yes, this also brought to mind, everyone think about this: isnt you
>>  index finger your MIDDLE finger? Isnt it the pointer finger that you put
>>  perpendicular to the thumb?  Just try putting your index finger at 90
>>  degrees for a second... doesnt work does it?  Back to N64, my favorite
>>  place in the game was the forest temple because of the kick @ss music
>>  and the cool and inventive puzzles.  What is your guys' favorite?
>>  
>
>Your Index Finger is what you refer to as your "Pointer Finger". My favorite
>part is still fighting the Dodongo. Dodongo dislikes smoke. That and seeing
>Hyrule 7 years later for the first time. 
>
>Trey
>

I was looking for someone to ask me to pay for the door repairs... but I was
unsuccessful. Breaking those four homosexual carpenters outta the Gerudo
Fortress was probably the coolest part in the game.


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:06:42 -0500

>And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
>to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
>with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
>enough to do so or do I hold the record?

So, what you're saying is you shot all 20 arrows and got 100 points for all
of them? In other words, you're perfect? Yet, you didn't get anything?
Seems kind of suspicious...

>Spencer wrote:
>> 
>> .............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
>> right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead..........right,
>> something like that anyway.
>> 
>>                 Stone Cold Spencer
>> PS. UFC 18 is this friday!!!! Who is excited?!?!? Bas Rutten's first
>> appearance!!!!!
>> 
>> >speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.
>> >(at horseback archery)
>> 
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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Zelda
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:15:02 -0600 (CST)

I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
time .


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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:40:35 -0500

I tie your record
-----Original Message-----


>And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
>to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
>with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
>enough to do so or do I hold the record?
>
>Spencer wrote:
>>
>> .............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
>> right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead..........right,
>> something like that anyway.
>>
>>                 Stone Cold Spencer
>> PS. UFC 18 is this friday!!!! Who is excited?!?!? Bas Rutten's first
>> appearance!!!!!
>>
>> >speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.
>> >(at horseback archery)
>>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 06 Jan 1999 22:26:05 -0500

Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed it
already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod follow
that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even the
slightest bit about the gaming industry.

Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they mention
in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto,
Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these games
make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year. Plus,
games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming press,
a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are in a
conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent games, a
fact that the author neglects to mention.

In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In his
opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a video
game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully. What
game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own GOLDENEYE!?!
Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head, something
that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost the
mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the character
as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.

I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for violence.
Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat?
You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the gaming
industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on games,
why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets? I'm
sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts, never
have the resources to actually play these games.

The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee Curtis: "I
don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween) can be
seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school crimes)
are raised around guns. The video games that they play have dehumanized and
desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."

Damn, I didn't realize I wrote so much. Sorry. I'm in a little bit of a
weird mood since school started again, and it seems to be affecting my brain
=) BTW, I made a post about the article on my website, located at
http://zelda64.gamegurus.net. (I think I slipped that ad in rather well,
don't you? ;-). It's in the archives, though. Last week, I believe.

Anyway, good night all. I need to get some sleep, maybe I'll be more
coherent and less stressed tomorrow =)

-----Original Message-----


>The said article can be found at
>
>http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea
rey
>ourkidsatrisk.htm
>
>What kind of a parent would let a 10 & 12 year old play a game for those 13
&
>older? Sounds like bad parenting to me.
>
>If any game taught me to kill it had to be Death Race 2000 back in 1978.
>
>Trey
>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:07:54 -0600

Why is it suspicious?  I spent weeks perfecting it.

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> >And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
> >to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
> >with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
> >enough to do so or do I hold the record?
> 
> So, what you're saying is you shot all 20 arrows and got 100 points for all
> of them? In other words, you're perfect? Yet, you didn't get anything?
> Seems kind of suspicious...
> 
> >Spencer wrote:
> >>
> >> .............. At this time I am extending my index finger and thumb at a
> >> right angle and placing my hand in front of my forehead..........right,
> >> something like that anyway.
> >>
> >>                 Stone Cold Spencer
> >> PS. UFC 18 is this friday!!!! Who is excited?!?!? Bas Rutten's first
> >> appearance!!!!!
> >>
> >> >speaking of which, I scored 2000 and they didnt give me a friggin thing.
> >> >(at horseback archery)
> >>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Fishing
Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:08:58 -0600

Always cast into the middle of the pond (by the log), and fish at dawn,
dusk or when it is cloudy.

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 99-01-06 21:20:22 EST, you write:
> 
> > And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
> >  to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
> >  with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
> >  enough to do so or do I hold the record?
> 
> Haven't even tried it yet. I'll let ya know when I do. Now does anybody have
> some tips for fishing? All I seem to be able to catch is 6 & 7 pound fish; and
> that's as Teenage Link.
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:11:09 -0600

You can't be the worst... they anticipated that somepeople would need
the triple diget place holder for the 'death toll'.  Fairies do however
provide a pseudo death which isnt counted.

LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:
> 
> I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
> completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
> for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
> time .
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:13:08 -0600

WHERE CAN I GIVE THEM A PIECE OF MY MIND??!!!

Eddy Wu wrote:
> 
> Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
> supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
> compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed it
> already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod follow
> that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even the
> slightest bit about the gaming industry.
> 
> Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they mention
> in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto,
> Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these games
> make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year. Plus,
> games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming press,
> a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are in a
> conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent games, a
> fact that the author neglects to mention.
> 
> In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In his
> opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a video
> game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully. What
> game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own GOLDENEYE!?!
> Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
> non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
> referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head, something
> that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost the
> mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the character
> as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
> Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
> 
> I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
> because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for violence.
> Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat?
> You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the gaming
> industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on games,
> why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets? I'm
> sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts, never
> have the resources to actually play these games.
> 
> The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
> remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee Curtis: "I
> don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween) can be
> seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school crimes)
> are raised around guns. The video games that they play have dehumanized and
> desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."
> 
> Damn, I didn't realize I wrote so much. Sorry. I'm in a little bit of a
> weird mood since school started again, and it seems to be affecting my brain
> =) BTW, I made a post about the article on my website, located at
> http://zelda64.gamegurus.net. (I think I slipped that ad in rather well,
> don't you? ;-). It's in the archives, though. Last week, I believe.
> 
> Anyway, good night all. I need to get some sleep, maybe I'll be more
> coherent and less stressed tomorrow =)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TreyTable@aol.com <TreyTable@aol.com>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
> 
> >The said article can be found at
> >
> >http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea
> rey
> >ourkidsatrisk.htm
> >
> >What kind of a parent would let a 10 & 12 year old play a game for those 13
> &
> >older? Sounds like bad parenting to me.
> >
> >If any game taught me to kill it had to be Death Race 2000 back in 1978.
> >
> >Trey
> >
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 00:26:59 -0600 (CST)

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:

> I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
> completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
> for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
> time .

Who knows? I don't think it says anything about how good you are at
playing the game.  There seems to be some bragging that occurs on this
list every now and then (2000pts for example...the point, who knows? :)),
but most people seem to not take into account different styles of play.  I
did not die as many times as you, but I in no way worried about how many
times I died (I'm not sure how many times I have died BTW, I loaned my
game out a couple of weeks ago and at the time had no idea what that
number was).  

For example, I always carried one or 2 fairies around  when playing, so I
never kept close tabs on my life or went out of my way to avoid dying (had
I known that game was keeping track how many times I was dying I might
have been more careful).  Since I had fairies, I played rather wrecklessly
because I had nothing to be concerned about.  I could have carried life
potions and just used them right before death, but I prefered fairies
since I could just get everything I could out of each heart and fought
till I died and be brought back to life and continue on. In others words,
how many times you have died means NOTHING!!!!  I consider myself to be as
good as anyone at any game I care to be good at, but I don't take stock in
comparing most stats because often they don't tell anything about how good
you are more than what style you play. 

Stryder


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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] Water Temple sux
Date: 07 Jan 1999 01:30:45 +30000


On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:
> completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking

	Hmmm, I'd say Water Temple is not that good.  Pain in the a$$ to 
switch back and forth between the regular boot and the heavy one so you 
can walk in water.  I don't really like swiming that much.

Which Temple/doungeon do you guys like best?

Is there anyone on this list who hasn't played zelda?   I guess if there 
are any... they would have uns*bscribe by now with all the zelda posts.

-Vi

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 00:33:01 -0600 (CST)

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> You can't be the worst... they anticipated that somepeople would need
> the triple diget place holder for the 'death toll'.  Fairies do however
> provide a pseudo death which isnt counted.
> 

Fairies don't count in your death total? Hmmm, my death total is probably
quite low then (since I always carried fairies) and yet another reason you
can't really use that number for anything.

Stryder


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:25:56 +1100

At 00:33 07-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:
>
>> You can't be the worst... they anticipated that somepeople would need
>> the triple diget place holder for the 'death toll'.  Fairies do however
>> provide a pseudo death which isnt counted.
>> 
>
>Fairies don't count in your death total? Hmmm, my death total is probably
>quite low then (since I always carried fairies) and yet another reason you
>can't really use that number for anything.
>
>Stryder
>
>

Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)


alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 07 Jan 1999 01:49:21 +30000


Need a 3 page english term paper?  
Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to college  :)
Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
nicely done and written.

-Vi

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:

> Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
> supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
> compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed it
> already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod follow
> that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even the
> slightest bit about the gaming industry.
> 
> Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they mention
> in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto,
> Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these games
> make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year. Plus,
> games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming press,
> a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are in a
> conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent games, a
> fact that the author neglects to mention.
> 
> In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In his
> opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a video
> game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully. What
> game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own GOLDENEYE!?!
> Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
> non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
> referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head, something
> that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost the
> mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the character
> as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
> Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
> 
> I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
> because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for violence.
> Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat?
> You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the gaming
> industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on games,
> why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets? I'm
> sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts, never
> have the resources to actually play these games.
> 
> The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
> remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee Curtis: "I
> don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween) can be
> seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school crimes)
> are raised around guns. The video games that they play have dehumanized and
> desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."
> 
> >http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea
> rey
> >ourkidsatrisk.htm

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - Upgrades
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:28:53 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 22:07:47 EST, D. Fentie wrote:

> >And I am thinking that the less talented/skilled videogame players need
>  >to do so in order to keep their confidence in check.  Hmph, whats wrong
>  >with scoring 2000 at horseback archery in Zelda?  Anyone else GOOD
>  >enough to do so or do I hold the record?

So far my highest score is 1220. But that was only my 5th try. I'm sure that
2000 isn't too difficult with enough practice, but there better be a reward
for it.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: .[N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:30:00 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 22:15:52 EST, you write:

> I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
>  completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
>  for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
>  time .
>  

I think you ought to start using those fairy bottles. Maybe if you did before
you might not have had that 45.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:35:17 EST

In a message dated 99-01-06 22:28:37 EST, Eddy Wu wrote:

> . Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the character
>  as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
>  Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
>  

If you shoot the scientist in the chest a red spot will apprear on the coat. 

>if you shot them, you lost the mission

Not so. You can get away with shooting two scientists. Like in the Facility
level I usually kill two. One to get a DD44 from and another to get the Class
A card key.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:37:50 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 00:05:27 EST, Techmo's D Fentie wrote:

> WHERE CAN I GIVE THEM A PIECE OF MY MIND??!!!
> 

Go to
http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencearey
ourkidsatrisk.htm

And at the bottom of the story is a link to a message board. I'm sure you'll
be able to find a letter to the editor link somewhere too.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:40:30 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 01:27:26 EST, Stryder wrote:

>  There seems to be some bragging that occurs on this
>  list every now and then (2000pts for example...the point, who knows? :)),

Speaking of bragging rites.. What the biggest fish everybody caught with the
original lure?

Mine was 14 pounds. I curious to see what everybody else got.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Water Temple sux
Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:44:24 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 01:31:17 EST, you write:

> Hmmm, I'd say Water Temple is not that good.  Pain in the a$$ to 
>  switch back and forth between the regular boot and the heavy one so you 
>  can walk in water.  I don't really like swiming that much.
>  
>  Which Temple/doungeon do you guys like best?
>  
>  
>  -Vi


My favorite is the Spirit Temple. I won't try spoil anything, but I like the
unique approach to beating this one. And the Boss of the Spirit Temple is
really cool, especailly after you beat the Boss. I found it quite funny. Not
as funny as a gay librarian*, but close.

Trey








* The gay librarian is from Brave Fencer Musashi for the PlayStation.

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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames 
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:46:33 +0000

How can anyone say that Goldeneye isnt violent?
If running around shooting people in any part of their anatomies
and watching them reel around in agony isnt violent
Id like to see what is. There is blood in Goldeneye so it doesnt
spurt out and cover the walls but it is there and is quite effective.

In Britain I think the legal age limit on goldeneye is 15?
I think that is fair :) How many parents still buy these products
not really understanding the content of the game, probably loads.
So I am all for censorship of the young. As I am an old gamer
it makes no difference to me anyway....


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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:47:47 +0000

There is a web page on the net that someone claimed to have caught a
45 lb fish


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] a few ZELDA Questions
Date: 07 Jan 1999 07:47:12 EST

SPOILER SPACE








.









.










.





.






I have just beaten the Spirit Temple and formed the Rainbow Bridge to Ganon's
Keep, just to let you know where I am in the game. So I looked at my item
subscreen and noticed (how could I not) that some items are not yet mine. I
have the Fire Arrow & the Light Arrow but not the Ice Arrow. I think I know
where this is (Guerdo Training Grounds) so I'm not yet worried about it. Now
on to the more important items. I'm missing a Goddess Spell. I have Farove's
Wind & Din's Fire (excuse my spelling if the names aren't exactly correct but
my computer is nowhere near my consoles so this is all coming from the memory
of an insomniac) but that's it. I'm guessing there's another Great Faerie (or
is it Fairy?, darn it Dan, can't you get anything right?), if so where the
bloody blue blazes is she? Also, is there a fourth bottle? I got the ones from
Lon Lon Ranch... you know, I can't remember where I got the other ones from.
But anyway, as Teenage Link (17 isn't an adult as far as I'm concerned) I have
3 bottles, so is there a fourth one? 

A few more questions I have. What determines if a Poe I capture will be a
regular Poe or a Big Poe? There is a big stone block near Ganon's Keep with
the Crecent & Star symbol on it (looks like the crecent & star from the
Sahrawi Arab Democracy Republic's flag)? When I get close the blue button icon
says "grab" but Likn won't touch the darn thing. Anybody know? 



Trey


Oh and thanks to D. Fentie for his help with the Guerdo Fortress & Fishing
Pond.


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From: TerryLLewis@webtv.net (Terry Lewis)
Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda - Fishing
Date: 07 Jan 1999 08:27:55 -0500 (EST)

Now does anybody have some tips for fishing? All I seem to be able to
catch is 6 & 7 pound fish; and that's as Teenage Link. 
Trey

  I might be able to help you on this one. First thing you want to do is
look for the lunkers. Most of the time, the larger fish are in the
deepest part of the pond. They are also usually the ones with lockjaw
and you may have to cast a few times before they will bite. They will
also be reluctant to chase your bait down, so you have to put it right
on their nose (just like real fishing).
  If you have a rumble pak, there is a little trick you can use when
reeling in a fish which will help you land it without losing it. Once
you have the fish hooked,  constantly move the joy stick in a
semi-circle fashion around the lower half of the control pad. Always
look for the lowest point of resistance and reel your fish in at that
point. Of course, this is constantly changing so you have to be on your
toes always looking for the least resistance (the least amt. of rumble). 
  On smaller fish this sweet spot is easier to find. Often by just
moving your joystick left and right, you can find the least resistance
and reel the fish in (you will see Link move his pole from one side and
then the other).  However, with the larger "hawgs" (a bass fishing term)
it is a constant struggle looking for the least resistance and the
location changes frequently.
  Being a bass fishing junkie, I find this part of the game pretty
entertaining. If I remember correctly,  my biggest fish so far is 16
pounds. Hope this is helpful and good luck.
Terry
   


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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: Re: .[N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 07:32:54 -0600 (CST)


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I have filled my bottles. But now I miss hearing beep beep beep beep
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In a message dated 99-01-06 22:15:52 EST, you write:

> I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
>  completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
>  for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
>  time .
>  

I think you ought to start using those fairy bottles. Maybe if you did before
you might not have had that 45.

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] a few ZELDA Questions
Date: 07 Jan 1999 07:36:36 -0600 (CST)


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You get a 4th bottle by colecting 10 poes. but I dont know which ones
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SPOILER SPACE








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.










.





.






I have just beaten the Spirit Temple and formed the Rainbow Bridge to Ganon's
Keep, just to let you know where I am in the game. So I looked at my item
subscreen and noticed (how could I not) that some items are not yet mine. I
have the Fire Arrow & the Light Arrow but not the Ice Arrow. I think I know
where this is (Guerdo Training Grounds) so I'm not yet worried about it. Now
on to the more important items. I'm missing a Goddess Spell. I have Farove's
Wind & Din's Fire (excuse my spelling if the names aren't exactly correct but
my computer is nowhere near my consoles so this is all coming from the memory
of an insomniac) but that's it. I'm guessing there's another Great Faerie (or
is it Fairy?, darn it Dan, can't you get anything right?), if so where the
bloody blue blazes is she? Also, is there a fourth bottle? I got the ones from
Lon Lon Ranch... you know, I can't remember where I got the other ones from.
But anyway, as Teenage Link (17 isn't an adult as far as I'm concerned) I have
3 bottles, so is there a fourth one? 

A few more questions I have. What determines if a Poe I capture will be a
regular Poe or a Big Poe? There is a big stone block near Ganon's Keep with
the Crecent & Star symbol on it (looks like the crecent & star from the
Sahrawi Arab Democracy Republic's flag)? When I get close the blue button icon
says "grab" but Likn won't touch the darn thing. Anybody know? 



Trey


Oh and thanks to D. Fentie for his help with the Guerdo Fortress & Fishing
Pond.


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] poes
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:27:57 GMT-4

you have to get the yellow ones, in the field, it doesn't look yellow 
until you kill it.
By the way, yellow ones came in my game, a bit late, arround shadow 
temple maybe?	


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] cow
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:32:02 GMT-4

Does anyone has a cow in his Kokiri house, in Kokiri Forest???


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: Re: [N64] Water Temple sux
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:37:00 GMT-4


> On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:
> > completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
> 
> 	Hmmm, I'd say Water Temple is not that good.  Pain in the a$$ to 
> switch back and forth between the regular boot and the heavy one so you 
> can walk in water.  I don't really like swiming that much.
> 
> Which Temple/doungeon do you guys like best?
> 
> Is there anyone on this list who hasn't played zelda?   I guess if there 
> are any... they would have uns*bscribe by now with all the zelda posts.
> 
> -Vi
Well, mine is Fire Temple...
Graphics are pretty cool and puzzles are great!
I hated water temple a lot because i got stuck for a while.
You konw where you get your sling shot upgrade? Well behind a chest, 
there is a block where you play a song, and then you go down there 
and there is a tunnel with water and some underwater tornadoes? Well 
i didn't see that block at first...   Just some little thing 
sometimes...


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From: Chris Clark <ChrisC@atitech.com>
Subject: [N64] RE: n64-Unix
Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:17:02 -0500 

>>There certainly is nothing wronge with Cut & Paste.  -However --that
document was type : XmTextField    -Which my Unix Computer does not
support.--- I will Say that As far as Cut & Paste goes--- Unix is where
it is at .... But It is very narrow / specified in it's Text type
support.   -The only advise I can give any one who doesn't want to see
that post again--- Would be.....Don't say that the Cheats In Turok 2 are
handled just like they were handled in Golden-eye.   -You WILL be able
to enter a BIG CHEAT CODE that will give all that you want.--- And you
will not have to beat the game-In order for it to work.-- However these
Codes will not be available untill mid-March.



Corey.<<

Ahh, a Unix user.......that explains - the extreme use
of.....punctuation - You must spend --- a fair amount of time / coding.
;-)

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 07 Jan 1999 12:36:00 -0500 




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><< And who do you give the monster mask to?
  >>

     >You give the Spooky mask to the boy in the Graveyard who wants to be
like
>Dampe.

>--David

     How do you give that kid the mask, I've tried talking to him with and 
without the mask on and he just makes a smart comment but won't take it.

Russ

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 07 Jan 1999 12:52:16 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 12:41:01 EST, you write:

>    How do you give that kid the mask, I've tried talking to him with and 
>  without the mask on and he just makes a smart comment but won't take it.
>  
>  Russ

Hmm that's a toughie. I just walked up to him with the mask on. Just be sure
it's a little boy you're talking to and not Dampe.

Trey

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] Zelda question
Date: 07 Jan 1999 13:00:00 -0500 

     No it's the boy, maybe you have to be a certain way along in the 
game, I don't know. He just tells me how little kids can't be in the 
graveyard, so he pretends to look like Dampe. Then when I put on the 
mask he says something about how I look but keeps walking along.


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In a message dated 99-01-07 12:41:01 EST, you write:

>    How do you give that kid the mask, I've tried talking to him with and 
>  without the mask on and he just makes a smart comment but won't take it. 
>
>  Russ

Hmm that's a toughie. I just walked up to him with the mask on. Just be sure

it's a little boy you're talking to and not Dampe.

Trey

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 12:47:53 -0500

>Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
>times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)


Speaking of lame stats, I just started playing FF3 and it has the weirdest
stat I have ever seen: how many steps you've taken. What's up with that?


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 14:54:57 GMT-4

Some sort of challenge to catch some player somewhere.
> Date:          Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:47:53 -0500
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> From:          tmcshea@earthlink.net
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Zelda
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> >Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
> >times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)
> 
> 
> Speaking of lame stats, I just started playing FF3 and it has the weirdest
> stat I have ever seen: how many steps you've taken. What's up with that?
> 
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Biased Reader's Digest report on violence in videogames
Date: 07 Jan 1999 16:56:09 EST

In a message dated 1/6/99 7:28:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
 because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for violence.
 Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat? >>

	You object for the same reason everyone else in their right mind does.  We
know that it's not movies, or T.V., or video games, or even books that make
those little kids open up on their class mates, it's because they're ALREADY
screwed in the head.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Water Temple sux
Date: 07 Jan 1999 16:59:52 EST

In a message dated 1/6/99 10:31:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, vi@cgl.bu.edu
writes:

<< > completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
 
 	Hmmm, I'd say Water Temple is not that good.  Pain in the a$$ to 
 switch back and forth between the regular boot and the heavy one so you 
 can walk in water.  I don't really like swiming that much.
 
 Which Temple/doungeon do you guys like best?
 
 Is there anyone on this list who hasn't played zelda?   I guess if there 
 are any... they would have uns*bscribe by now with all the zelda posts.
 
 -Vi >>

	The two most fantastic events/places in the game was the Middle Boss (Dark
Link) and the Middle Boss room of the Water Temple, and the very last fight
with Ganondorf.  I haven't done it yet, but I'm going to play through the game
again with my VCR hooked up to the T.V. and make myself a tape with what I
think are the best scenes of the game.

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:02:50 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 2:41:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< 
 Speaking of bragging rites.. What the biggest fish everybody caught with the
 original lure?
 
 Mine was 14 pounds. I curious to see what everybody else got.
 
 Trey >>

	The biggest fish I caught was 22 pounds.  I have yet to get the sinking lure.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] a few ZELDA Questions
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:09:26 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 4:48:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< I have just beaten the Spirit Temple and formed the Rainbow Bridge to
Ganon's
 Keep, just to let you know where I am in the game. So I looked at my item
 subscreen and noticed (how could I not) that some items are not yet mine. I
 have the Fire Arrow & the Light Arrow but not the Ice Arrow. I think I know
 where this is (Guerdo Training Grounds) so I'm not yet worried about it. Now
 on to the more important items. I'm missing a Goddess Spell. I have Farove's
 Wind & Din's Fire (excuse my spelling if the names aren't exactly correct but
 my computer is nowhere near my consoles so this is all coming from the memory
 of an insomniac) but that's it. I'm guessing there's another Great Faerie (or
 is it Fairy?, darn it Dan, can't you get anything right?), if so where the
 bloody blue blazes is she? Also, is there a fourth bottle? I got the ones
from
 Lon Lon Ranch... you know, I can't remember where I got the other ones from.
 But anyway, as Teenage Link (17 isn't an adult as far as I'm concerned) I
have
 3 bottles, so is there a fourth one? 
 
 A few more questions I have. What determines if a Poe I capture will be a
 regular Poe or a Big Poe? There is a big stone block near Ganon's Keep with
 the Crecent & Star symbol on it (looks like the crecent & star from the
 Sahrawi Arab Democracy Republic's flag)? When I get close the blue button
icon
 says "grab" but Likn won't touch the darn thing. Anybody know? 
 
 
 
 Trey >>


	Okay.  You will find Naru's Love in the desert.  There is a crack in one of
the walls around the Collosuss, blast it to get some love (comes in VERY
handy).  

	A regular Poe will be purple with a frown on it's face after you defeat it,
and they circle you.  A Big Poe will be yellow with a smile on it's face, and
they move away from you at about Mach 10.

	There are two of these columns.  One in the Fire room of Ganon's Castle, and
then the one you were talking about.  You need the Golden Gauntlets to move
these colums.  The Gauntlets can be found in the Shadow Room of Ganon's
Castle.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] cow
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:13:06 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 6:32:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA
writes:

<< Does anyone has a cow in his Kokiri house, in Kokiri Forest???
 
  >>

	I do.  You have a cow in your house because you had a good time making a lap
around the track at Lon Lon Ranch.  Play Epona's song for it (or any cow) and
it will fill an empty bottle with milk.

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:16:51 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 10:49:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
tmcshea@earthlink.net writes:

<< >Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
 >times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)
 
 
 Speaking of lame stats, I just started playing FF3 and it has the weirdest
 stat I have ever seen: how many steps you've taken. What's up with that?
  >>

	Later in the game you can learn a spell called Step Mine.  The more steps
you've taken the harder it hits.

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:31:00 -0600

I got a 22 pounder too but I heard on the net that there is a secret
fish which is like a eel weighing roughly 30 pounds...

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/7/99 2:41:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> <<
>  Speaking of bragging rites.. What the biggest fish everybody caught with the
>  original lure?
> 
>  Mine was 14 pounds. I curious to see what everybody else got.
> 
>  Trey >>
> 
>         The biggest fish I caught was 22 pounds.  I have yet to get the sinking lure.
> 
> --David
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:33:09 -0600

Huh?  Could you explain this 'step mine' thing more thouroughly?

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/7/99 10:49:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> tmcshea@earthlink.net writes:
> 
> << >Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
>  >times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)
> 
> 
>  Speaking of lame stats, I just started playing FF3 and it has the weirdest
>  stat I have ever seen: how many steps you've taken. What's up with that?
>   >>
> 
>         Later in the game you can learn a spell called Step Mine.  The more steps
> you've taken the harder it hits.
> 
> --David
> 
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Subject: Re: [N64] a few ZELDA Questions       
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:35:12 -0600 (CST)


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The double majik bar fairy is in death mountain crater. Just enter the
crater from the kings room in Goron town, Go accross the bridge,turn
right,&hit the rocks with the hammer.You will find the fairey cave
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In a message dated 1/7/99 4:48:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< I have just beaten the Spirit Temple and formed the Rainbow Bridge to
Ganon's
 Keep, just to let you know where I am in the game. So I looked at my item
 subscreen and noticed (how could I not) that some items are not yet mine. I
 have the Fire Arrow & the Light Arrow but not the Ice Arrow. I think I know
 where this is (Guerdo Training Grounds) so I'm not yet worried about it. Now
 on to the more important items. I'm missing a Goddess Spell. I have Farove's
 Wind & Din's Fire (excuse my spelling if the names aren't exactly correct but
 my computer is nowhere near my consoles so this is all coming from the memory
 of an insomniac) but that's it. I'm guessing there's another Great Faerie (or
 is it Fairy?, darn it Dan, can't you get anything right?), if so where the
 bloody blue blazes is she? Also, is there a fourth bottle? I got the ones
from
 Lon Lon Ranch... you know, I can't remember where I got the other ones from.
 But anyway, as Teenage Link (17 isn't an adult as far as I'm concerned) I
have
 3 bottles, so is there a fourth one? 
 
 A few more questions I have. What determines if a Poe I capture will be a
 regular Poe or a Big Poe? There is a big stone block near Ganon's Keep with
 the Crecent & Star symbol on it (looks like the crecent & star from the
 Sahrawi Arab Democracy Republic's flag)? When I get close the blue button
icon
 says "grab" but Likn won't touch the darn thing. Anybody know? 
 
 
 
 Trey >>


	Okay.  You will find Naru's Love in the desert.  There is a crack in one of
the walls around the Collosuss, blast it to get some love (comes in VERY
handy).  

	A regular Poe will be purple with a frown on it's face after you defeat it,
and they circle you.  A Big Poe will be yellow with a smile on it's face, and
they move away from you at about Mach 10.

	There are two of these columns.  One in the Fire room of Ganon's Castle, and
then the one you were talking about.  You need the Golden Gauntlets to move
these colums.  The Gauntlets can be found in the Shadow Room of Ganon's
Castle.

--David

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:34:38 EST

I'm not sure about previos Zeldas, but in A Link To The Past, that number only
appeared when you beta the game.

~Matt

<<Every Zelda game has had a little number next to your file indicating your
times died. So it's more than just a lame stat, it's a tradition. :)>>

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:39:03 -0600

Steps --- Is exactly what It is.---- How many Actual steps -(As in
walking) you have taken in the Game.-- TOTAL - This post is really hard
to write without sounding Condesending.-- Basically if your standing
next to a well at a town and you see a person about four steps away and
you checked your step stats that read that you have walked a total of
"N" times.---- When you took 4 steps toward the person-- Your step stat
Will then Read "N+4".  ----Now N is actually a Number.....I just Used N
as an example --- As a matter of fact-- N stands for -(In the way that I
used it)- How many steps you have taken in the Game!---- Or your step
stats.


>Huh?  Could you explain this 'step mine' thing more thouroughly?




>  Speaking of lame stats, I just started playing FF3 and it has the weirdest
>  stat I have ever seen: how many steps you've taken. What's up with that?


Corey.

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: .[N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:38:38 EST

I don't know why everyone likes the faries. I've never used a fairy once, and
yet I'm at Ganon. I'm a potion type of guy, myself. I stock up on blue potion
whenevr I can.

~Matt

PS: The Forest Temple has got to be my favorite. The one I HATED was Lord Jabu
Jabu's stomach. I don't why, but I HATED that level.

<<<<I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
time.>>>>
   
<<I think you ought to start using those fairy bottles. Maybe if you did
before
you might not have had that 45.
 
Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] a few ZELDA Questions
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:48:33 EST

Hood doggy, that's a lot of ground to cover. Okay, here we go...

<<I have just beaten the Spirit Temple and formed the Rainbow Bridge to
Ganon's
Keep, just to let you know where I am in the game. So I looked at my item
subscreen and noticed (how could I not) that some items are not yet mine. I
have the Fire Arrow & the Light Arrow but not the Ice Arrow. I think I know
where this is (Guerdo Training Grounds) so I'm not yet worried about it. Now
on to the more important items. I'm missing a Goddess Spell. I have Farove's
Wind & Din's Fire (excuse my spelling if the names aren't exactly correct but
my computer is nowhere near my consoles so this is all coming from the memory
of an insomniac) but that's it. I'm guessing there's another Great Faerie (or
is it Fairy?, darn it Dan, can't you get anything right?), if so where the
bloody blue blazes is she? Also, is there a fourth bottle? I got the ones from
Lon Lon Ranch... you know, I can't remember where I got the other ones from.
But anyway, as Teenage Link (17 isn't an adult as far as I'm concerned) I have
3 bottles, so is there a fourth one?>>

Yes, Nyru's Love. It's in a crack in the wall around the two palm trees in the
desert. When entering the Spirit Temple, turn around. It should be in front,
and to the left.
The fourth obttle is indeed in the game, read below. The ice arrow is in the
Gerudo Training Ground.
 
<<A few more questions I have. What determines if a Poe I capture will be a
regular Poe or a Big Poe? There is a big stone block near Ganon's Keep with
the Crecent & Star symbol on it (looks like the crecent & star from the
Sahrawi Arab Democracy Republic's flag)? When I get close the blue button icon
says "grab" but Likn won't touch the darn thing. Anybody know? 

Okay, the Big Poes only appear in Hyrule Field when Link is on Epona. They are
big, white, and they run away from you, rather than attacking you. Also, their
ghosts are orange and smiling rather than purple and frowning.

That huge rock can be lifted once you have the Golden Gauntlets. You'll get
that in Gannon's Keep, in the Shadow area. Behind that huge motha of a rock
there is the final fairy that enchances your health so that each blow takes
half the normal damage.

<<Trey>>


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: .[N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:40:42 -0600

Yeah same, I hated Jabu-Jabu... I think it was because it was annoying,
long, tiresome, and annoying and watery and annoying... (especially
those damn electric jelly fish).

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I don't know why everyone likes the faries. I've never used a fairy once, and
> yet I'm at Ganon. I'm a potion type of guy, myself. I stock up on blue potion
> whenevr I can.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> PS: The Forest Temple has got to be my favorite. The one I HATED was Lord Jabu
> Jabu's stomach. I don't why, but I HATED that level.
> 
> <<<<I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
> completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
> for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
> time.>>>>
> 
> <<I think you ought to start using those fairy bottles. Maybe if you did
> before
> you might not have had that 45.
> 
> Trey>>
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Step mine
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:42:40 -0600

Sooo.... does the step mine say 125675 + 4 or does it automatically add
it in?  And the way that the other guy said it, he made it sound like
Step Mine was some sort of spell or something... what spell, why would
you use it?

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Classic games
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:52:37 -0600

What games are you guys hoping come out as sequels?  I really want Super
Punch-out to come out as a game... Metroid would be 'okay' but I never
really got into the series very much (my friend loved them though.  It
seems like I'm the only guy who doesn't like Metroid very much).

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Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:51:31 -0600 (CST)


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I have used faires once and have gotten blue potion. Will it bring me
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I don't know why everyone likes the faries. I've never used a fairy once, and
yet I'm at Ganon. I'm a potion type of guy, myself. I stock up on blue potion
whenevr I can.

~Matt

PS: The Forest Temple has got to be my favorite. The one I HATED was Lord Jabu
Jabu's stomach. I don't why, but I HATED that level.

<<<<I have died  45 times already.So am I the worst zelda player? I have
completed the water temple which was my favorite so far.Still looking
for the 4th carpenter.O plus I have never used a fairey bottle except 1
time.>>>>
   
<<I think you ought to start using those fairy bottles. Maybe if you did
before
you might not have had that 45.
 
Trey>>

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] ZELDA FISHING TIPS.
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:59:02 -0600

ZELDA FISHING TIPS:


1)- Get the sinking lure.*

2)- Pick the biggest Fish that You can see, And Way over-cast past it.

3)- When you real it in --- You will see a lot of smaller fish taking
your lure.--- Just don't set the hook or real it in or anything.-- Cause
they will let it go or fall off.

4)- You will real-in (Eventually) right by the big fish that you want.--
Just watch what It likes and keep going for it.

5)- Just keep trying --and don't accept any fish that are small.-- You
will get one of the bigger ones.---- (I know that I have caught at least
a 20 pounder--as adult link)















*- To get the sinking lure.--- Walk out into the middle of the fishing
pond -onto the log that is sticking out. ---At the end of that log is
the Sinking lure.-----(You won't get into trouble)

Corey.

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Subject: [N64] IGN64 PRESS PASS
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 20:41:48 -0500

There is an eel.  It's called the Hyrule Loach.  I don't know when it
appears though.  I was just fishing and saw a long black fish that looked
unusual.  I went underwater with my iron boots to get a closer look and it
was the eel.  You can only catch it in the shallow water by the lily pads or
reeds.
-----Original Message-----


>I got a 22 pounder too but I heard on the net that there is a secret
>fish which is like a eel weighing roughly 30 pounds...
>
>Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 1/7/99 2:41:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,
TreyTable@aol.com
>> writes:
>>
>> <<
>>  Speaking of bragging rites.. What the biggest fish everybody caught with
the
>>  original lure?
>>
>>  Mine was 14 pounds. I curious to see what everybody else got.
>>
>>  Trey >>
>>
>>         The biggest fish I caught was 22 pounds.  I have yet to get the
sinking lure.
>>
>> --David
>>
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Sucker Punch
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:21:39 EST

Okay, go read the In-Focus story about Sucker Punch at Nintendojo. 

"The game features a mascot in a 3D platformer."

"The small, yet growing team of programmers and designers is based in
Bellevue, Washington."

"Top-secret game."

Mascot. Washington. Nintendo. Samus. OH, GOD, PLEASE!

~Matt

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Classic games
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:54:01 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 4:46:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< What games are you guys hoping come out as sequels?  I really want Super
 Punch-out to come out as a game... Metroid would be 'okay' but I never
 really got into the series very much (my friend loved them though.  It
 seems like I'm the only guy who doesn't like Metroid very much).
  >>

	I've never even played a Metroid game, but they do look interesting.  It
reminded me a lot of Mega Man, which I loved!  I suppose if Metroid came out
on the N64 it would be really cool.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Step mine
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:53:04 EST

In a message dated 1/7/99 4:35:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< Sooo.... does the step mine say 125675 + 4 or does it automatically add
 it in?  And the way that the other guy said it, he made it sound like
 Step Mine was some sort of spell or something... what spell, why would
 you use it? >>


	No, it doesn't say 125675 + 4.

	If you've taken 500 steps in the game, then the number is 500.  If you take
one more step after that, then the number will read 501.  
	Later in the game the old guy ( I don't remember his name) CAN LEARN A SPELL
called Step Mine.  The power of the spell depends on how many steps you've
taken in the game.  For instance, my friend had logged about 80 hours onto his
game and taken, if I remember correctly, around 2 million steps.  The Step
Mine spell caused a lot of damage.  Get it now?

--David

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:20:40 -0500

3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only in
high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.

-----Original Message-----


>
>Need a 3 page english term paper?
>Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to college  :)
>Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
>got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
>nicely done and written.
>
>-Vi
>
>On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
>> supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
>> compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed it
>> already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod
follow
>> that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even
the
>> slightest bit about the gaming industry.
>>
>> Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they
mention
>> in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto,
>> Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these
games
>> make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year.
Plus,
>> games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming
press,
>> a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are in
a
>> conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent games,
a
>> fact that the author neglects to mention.
>>
>> In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In his
>> opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a
video
>> game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully. What
>> game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own GOLDENEYE!?!
>> Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
>> non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
>> referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head,
something
>> that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost
the
>> mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the
character
>> as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
>> Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
>>
>> I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
>> because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for
violence.
>> Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat?
>> You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the
gaming
>> industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on
games,
>> why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets?
I'm
>> sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts,
never
>> have the resources to actually play these games.
>>
>> The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
>> remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee Curtis:
"I
>> don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween) can
be
>> seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school
crimes)
>> are raised around guns. The video games that they play have dehumanized
and
>> desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."
>>
>>
>http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea
>> rey
>> >ourkidsatrisk.htm
>
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:25:56 -0800

It really isn't the length that matter in college, but the quality.  There
usually are not minimum lengths for papers, but 3 pages is a little 
short.  Also, people are saying that the article sucks, so why would
you want to turn that in?  Its plagiarism so you wouldn't want to do
that anyway.  

As for video games have desensitized people, I don't think that is the
case.  I
think that if anyone of you had someone's head blown off in front of 
them you would puke.  Video games are much different that real
life.  I don't know why people cannot understand that.  They are just
for fun, just like tv and movies, and any reason person understands
that.  

----------
> From: Eddy Wu <glacion@earthlink.net>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 3:20 PM
> 
> 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only
in
> high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:49 AM
> Subject: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> 
> 
> >
> >Need a 3 page english term paper?
> >Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to college 
:)
> >Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
> >got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
> >nicely done and written.
> >
> >-Vi
> >
> >On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
> >
> >> Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
> >> supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
> >> compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed
it
> >> already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod
> follow
> >> that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even
> the
> >> slightest bit about the gaming industry.
> >>
> >> Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they
> mention
> >> in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft
Auto,
> >> Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these
> games
> >> make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year.
> Plus,
> >> games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming
> press,
> >> a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are
in
> a
> >> conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent
games,
> a
> >> fact that the author neglects to mention.
> >>
> >> In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In
his
> >> opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a
> video
> >> game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully.
What
> >> game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own
GOLDENEYE!?!
> >> Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
> >> non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
> >> referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head,
> something
> >> that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost
> the
> >> mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the
> character
> >> as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood
in
> >> Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
> >> because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for
> violence.
> >> Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal
Kombat?
> >> You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the
> gaming
> >> industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on
> games,
> >> why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets?
> I'm
> >> sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts,
> never
> >> have the resources to actually play these games.
> >>
> >> The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
> >> remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee
Curtis:
> "I
> >> don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween)
can
> be
> >> seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school
> crimes)
> >> are raised around guns. The video games that they play have
dehumanized
> and
> >> desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."
> >>
> >>
>
>http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea

> >> rey
> >> >ourkidsatrisk.htm
> >
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:53:26 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 18:41:18 EST, you write:

> I'm not sure about previos Zeldas, but in A Link To The Past, that number 
> only
>  appeared when you beta the game.
>  
>  ~Matt

The number only appeared in A Link to the Past after you beat the game.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Classic games
Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:56:38 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 19:46:02 EST, D. Fentie wrote:

> What games are you guys hoping come out as sequels?  I really want Super
>  Punch-out to come out as a game... Metroid would be 'okay' but I never
>  really got into the series very much (my friend loved them though.  It
>  seems like I'm the only guy who doesn't like Metroid very much).

Kid Icarus would be a great game to be made into a 3-D adventure on the N64,
or at least a new 2-D adventure for the Game Boy Color.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: .[N64] Zelda
Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:57:45 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 19:52:11 EST, Little Kathy wrote:

> I have used faires once and have gotten blue potion. Will it bring me
>  back to life like the fairey bottle?
> 

Yes & No. It will refill your hearts & magic meter but you have to do it
manually.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Classic games
Date: 08 Jan 1999 00:02:27 EST

In a message dated 99-01-07 22:55:38 EST, you write:

> I've never even played a Metroid game, but they do look interesting.  It
>  reminded me a lot of Mega Man, which I loved!  I suppose if Metroid came
out
>  on the N64 it would be really cool.
>  
>  --David

Metroid games are 10 times better than any Mega Man game, athough Mega Man 2
is better than Metroid 2, because of one reason. Samus can duck. 

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Classic games
Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:47:41 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> What games are you guys hoping come out as sequels?  I really want Super
> Punch-out to come out as a game... Metroid would be 'okay' but I never
> really got into the series very much (my friend loved them though.  It
> seems like I'm the only guy who doesn't like Metroid very much).

Metroid for sure!  I loved the first one and worshipped SNES version.  I
don't even care if it is 2D like the originals (Castelvania: SOTN proves
beyond a doubt that 2D games are still great) or 3D (Mario 64 and Zelda
TOOT prove that 2D games game be successfully ported to 3D and still be
great).

I would also love to have another Secret of Mana game (and have it
actually released here in the states!)...I thought the whole multi-player
Action RPG concept was awesome.  You could control the characters yourself
or if a friend happened to drop by, they could take control of one of your
characters and join in the game!  Fantastic game!

Although this has nothing to do with N64, I want another Twisted Metal 3
game to come out and just pretend that the version put out by 989 Studios
never happened (they ruined the series IMO).

Along the same lines, I want another Critical Depth game. I love the first
one.

I'm hoping for a new Phantasy Star game on the Dreamcast.

Oh well, I'm sure there are a lot more games I'm like to have sequels to,
but this is all I can think of right now.

Stryder


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From: Dexter Sy <karens@smartt.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:27:12 -0800

it depends on the professor.  Some teachers have different expectations.  Also,
it is standard policy to double space or have 1.5 line spacing with fonts no
smaller than 12 points so papers could be easily read.  Maybe when the person
said 3 page term paper, hr meant 3 pages without all those extra formatting.

Eddy Wu wrote:

> 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only in
> high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:49 AM
> Subject: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
>
> >
> >Need a 3 page english term paper?
> >Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to college  :)
> >Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
> >got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
> >nicely done and written.
> >
> >-Vi
> >
> >On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
> >
> >> Ah yes, that article. I'm sorry, but as one of those teens who are
> >> supposedly being trained in the art of killing by video games, I feel
> >> compelled to respond to this even though I believe we have discussed it
> >> already when the article first came out. EVERYONE on the list shouod
> follow
> >> that URL and read the article. It will make you angry if you know even
> the
> >> slightest bit about the gaming industry.
> >>
> >> Here's a little sample of what you'll find: the only games that they
> mention
> >> in the article are Carmageddon, Postal, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto,
> >> Resident Evil, that sort. This sort of distorts the reality that these
> games
> >> make up only a tiny percentage of the total games released each year.
> Plus,
> >> games like Postal and GTA are already controversial inside the gaming
> press,
> >> a fact that contradicts the author's premise that game developers are in
> a
> >> conspiracy to corrupt today's youth by releasing ever-more-violent games,
> a
> >> fact that the author neglects to mention.
> >>
> >> In fact, he frequently not only distorts info, but falsifies it. In his
> >> opening paragraph, he describes a scene of brutal murder and gore in a
> video
> >> game, as some kid shoots an innocent civilian in the head gleefully. What
> >> game is he talking about? Why, none other than the N64's own GOLDENEYE!?!
> >> Now, tell me this: how is it that he manages to cite one of the most
> >> non-gory shooters around as an example of violence? He is specifically
> >> referring to shooting one of the Russian scientists in the head,
> something
> >> that I believe was discouraged in the game (if you shot them, you lost
> the
> >> mission). Also, he said that "blood splattered the lab coat of the
> character
> >> as he whirled and fell." Excuse me? I seem to recall very little blood in
> >> Goldeneye. However, the author happens to neglect both of those facts.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure why I object quite so much to this article. I think it's
> >> because video games are increasingly being used as a scapegoat for
> violence.
> >> Remember a few years back when Congress held meetings on Mortal Kombat?
> >> You'd think they would have better things to do than to persecute the
> gaming
> >> industry, but apparently they don't. Instead of blaming violence on
> games,
> >> why not improve the public school system and get kids off the streets?
> I'm
> >> sure most inner-city kids, who I guess committ the most violent acts,
> never
> >> have the resources to actually play these games.
> >>
> >> The most troubling thing is, people seem to be believing this crap. I
> >> remembered this quote I saw in a recent EGM issue, by Jamie Lee Curtis:
> "I
> >> don't see how Michael Myers (the knife-wielding villain in Halloween) can
> be
> >> seen encouraging kids to shoot other kids. These people (in school
> crimes)
> >> are raised around guns. The video games that they play have dehumanized
> and
> >> desensitized them to what real bloodshed it."
> >>
> >>
> >http://www.readersdigest.com/rdmagazine/specfeat/archives/computerviolencea
> >> rey
> >> >ourkidsatrisk.htm
> >
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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] more zelda faqs
Date: 08 Jan 1999 03:37:01 +30000


> 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only in
> high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.

Well as you can tell from my email address bu.edu, I go to Boston University.
Well those 16 page papers, u only need to do 1 once a year.
I have to write a 3 page paper every 2 weeks.  Lucky no more english for me.

Funny how many faqs/guides for Zelda say that theirs is the very best.  
I just go to www.gamefaqs.com, they got like 10 different zelda faqs.

-Vi

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Subject: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 07:07:41 -0600

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 08:39:24 -0500

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on pre-rendered room backgrounds. Maybe it's something along the lines =
of Duke Nukem? A third-person shooter?

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    To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
    Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 8:09 AM
    Subject: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 08 Jan 1999 08:54:31 -0500

Wow.. I was kind of joking, but thanx for all the serious responses anyway.
Actually, I don't think it is plagiarism, since I'm not taking the words of
anybody, everything is my own opinion, written by myself. I did not consult
any research material in writing it.
Oh, I see what you were talking about now.. you thought he meant to turn in
a copy of the article itself? No, he was referring to my rather long
response to the article, which it would not surprise me to find that you had
not read (because of it's length.)
On your other comment, I totally agree. Even after playing video games like
Turok II and Mortal Kombat, I still could barely sit through Saving Private
Ryan. The argument that I am being desensitized to anything is just idiotic.
For someone to think that killing soldiers in Goldeneye means that it is ok
to go out to your schoolyard with a semi-automatic weapon and mow down your
classmates requires a inherent psycopathic tendency, which would have been
apparent even without the games.

-----Original Message-----


>It really isn't the length that matter in college, but the quality.  There
>usually are not minimum lengths for papers, but 3 pages is a little
>short.  Also, people are saying that the article sucks, so why would
>you want to turn that in?  Its plagiarism so you wouldn't want to do
>that anyway.
>
>As for video games have desensitized people, I don't think that is the
>case.  I
>think that if anyone of you had someone's head blown off in front of
>them you would puke.  Video games are much different that real
>life.  I don't know why people cannot understand that.  They are just
>for fun, just like tv and movies, and any reason person understands
>that.
>
>----------
>> From: Eddy Wu <glacion@earthlink.net>
>> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>> Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
>> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 3:20 PM
>>
>> 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only
>in
>> high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
>> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:49 AM
>> Subject: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Need a 3 page english term paper?
>> >Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to college
>:)
>> >Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
>> >got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
>> >nicely done and written.
>> >
>> >-Vi



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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 10:10:25 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 08:09:49 EST, you write:

> Anyway, I was just checking out IGN64 and the first big news on there: 
> Resident Evil 64.  It's apparently on it's way to becoming an actual N64
game.
>   But isn't it a little too late?  I mean, the Playstation version has been 
> out for a long time now, and RE2 is out, so why bring out an N64 version?  
> Unless they can do something COMPLETELY different with the N64 version,
there 
> isn't really that much point.  What does everyone else think?
>  
>  -Ian Dickson
>  Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
>  http://www.geocities.com/Tim

I think that the N64 Resident Evil will be a totally new game. I hope it will
be. I don't need another copy of the original, three is enough. Why bring out
an N64 version? The N64 needs a game like RE 64. And if RE 64 is a major
sucess (don't blow it Capcom) maybe games like Mega Man & Street Fighter could
be not too far off. There's always room in my collection for another Resident
Evil game. Now I just hope there's a RE 3 for the PlayStation.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 10:12:30 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 08:40:56 EST, Eddy Wu wrote:

> Well, obviously they're gonna have to do something completely different for 
> the N64 version, seeing as his both RE and RE2 on the PSX depended on pre-
> rendered room backgrounds. Maybe it's something along the lines of Duke 
> Nukem?
>  A third-person shooter?

I surely hope not. Although I doubt RE 64 will have the pre-rendered
backgrounds of its PlayStation cousins, I hope the N64 version stays true to
the series with the fixed camera angles.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 08 Jan 1999 10:23:40 EST

Is anybody besides me excited (or concerned) about the latest Castlevania
game; the N64's first Castlevania? I have seen just about nothing on this game
at IGN64 and that makes me wonder if it will be a worthy follow up to Symphony
of the Night and Konami's keeping it under wraps to to keep us in suspense or
if it will turn out to be another Contra : Legacy of War (or C: The Contra
Adventure) and Konami is keeping it under wraps because it sucks so bad. 

I know it will be different from every other Castlevania I've played because
it's in 3-D. I would have prefered it stayed 2-D, the N64 deserves more 2-D
games, and with Goemon going back to 2-D, if a bit Einhanderish, I get worried
about Konami's expertise in the 3-D realm. And I hope the days & nights are
longer (an hour of each would suit me shiny) in Castlevania than they are in
Zelda. Not to knock Zelda, I'm sure that Hyrule is just on a really small
planet. 

Trey

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 08 Jan 1999 10:52:59 -0500



>Is anybody besides me excited (or concerned) about the latest Castlevania
>game; the N64's first Castlevania? I have seen just about nothing on this
game
>at IGN64 and that makes me wonder if it will be a worthy follow up to
Symphony
>of the Night and Konami's keeping it under wraps to to keep us in suspense
or
>if it will turn out to be another Contra : Legacy of War (or C: The Contra
>Adventure) and Konami is keeping it under wraps because it sucks so bad.


Actually, there has been some coverage. Nintendo Power had a big feature on
it last month, and while they are not exactly objective about their views,
the screenshots and gameplay descriptions seem pretty nice. Also, Peer in
today's N-Query said that Castlevania 64 was good, but a different
experience from the 2D Castlevanias.

>I know it will be different from every other Castlevania I've played
because
>it's in 3-D. I would have prefered it stayed 2-D, the N64 deserves more 2-D
>games, and with Goemon going back to 2-D, if a bit Einhanderish, I get
worried
>about Konami's expertise in the 3-D realm. And I hope the days & nights are
>longer (an hour of each would suit me shiny) in Castlevania than they are
in
>Zelda. Not to knock Zelda, I'm sure that Hyrule is just on a really small
>planet.


Doesn't matter to me, 2D or 3D, as long as it's good. I think the reason
they are making Goemon in 2D is to support the two-player co-op, and
Mystical Ninja was ok in 3D, so I wouldn't worry.  The problem with making
longer days is that some gamers don't have 2 hours to sit down and wait for
day to pass into night. Let's say you had an objective that could only be
gotten during the night, but when you start playing the game it is day. you
would have to walk around for an hour, by which time you would probably get
bored and quit. If there is a real-time clock in th cart, then basically
they are restricting the real-life times during which you can play the game.



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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:04:16 -0800

Your talk of school shootings reminded me.  I heard awhile back that
even though we have been hearing a lot about the shootings, the 
rate is actually lower than in the past.  It goes to show how the media
distorts reality.

----------
> From: Eddy Wu <glacion@earthlink.net>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 5:54 AM
> 
> Wow.. I was kind of joking, but thanx for all the serious responses
anyway.
> Actually, I don't think it is plagiarism, since I'm not taking the words
of
> anybody, everything is my own opinion, written by myself. I did not
consult
> any research material in writing it.
> Oh, I see what you were talking about now.. you thought he meant to turn
in
> a copy of the article itself? No, he was referring to my rather long
> response to the article, which it would not surprise me to find that you
had
> not read (because of it's length.)
> On your other comment, I totally agree. Even after playing video games
like
> Turok II and Mortal Kombat, I still could barely sit through Saving
Private
> Ryan. The argument that I am being desensitized to anything is just
idiotic.
> For someone to think that killing soldiers in Goldeneye means that it is
ok
> to go out to your schoolyard with a semi-automatic weapon and mow down
your
> classmates requires a inherent psycopathic tendency, which would have
been
> apparent even without the games.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Stuart <cstu@isunet.net>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> 
> 
> >It really isn't the length that matter in college, but the quality. 
There
> >usually are not minimum lengths for papers, but 3 pages is a little
> >short.  Also, people are saying that the article sucks, so why would
> >you want to turn that in?  Its plagiarism so you wouldn't want to do
> >that anyway.
> >
> >As for video games have desensitized people, I don't think that is the
> >case.  I
> >think that if anyone of you had someone's head blown off in front of
> >them you would puke.  Video games are much different that real
> >life.  I don't know why people cannot understand that.  They are just
> >for fun, just like tv and movies, and any reason person understands
> >that.
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Eddy Wu <glacion@earthlink.net>
> >> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> >> Subject: Re: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> >> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 3:20 PM
> >>
> >> 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm
only
> >in
> >> high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
> >> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:49 AM
> >> Subject: [N64] English term paper "Violence in Videogames"
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Need a 3 page english term paper?
> >> >Even if u don't, u definitly need to write one when you get to
college
> >:)
> >> >Just copy everything below, and quote readersdigest article and you
> >> >got a nice term paper on "Violence in Videogames"
> >> >nicely done and written.
> >> >
> >> >-Vi
> 
> 
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64]  "Violence in Videogames" off topic : school shootings
Date: 08 Jan 1999 13:32:15 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 13:03:36 EST, you write:

> Your talk of school shootings reminded me.  I heard awhile back that
>  even though we have been hearing a lot about the shootings, the 
>  rate is actually lower than in the past.  It goes to show how the media
>  distorts reality.

The only reason we've heared a lot about school shootings in 1998 was because
they happened in rural schools. 

Trey

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64]  "Violence in Videogames" off topic : school shootings
Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:44:26 -0800

Very true.

----------
> From: TreyTable@aol.com
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [N64]  "Violence in Videogames" off topic : school shootings
> Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 10:32 AM
> 
> In a message dated 99-01-08 13:03:36 EST, you write:
> 
> > Your talk of school shootings reminded me.  I heard awhile back that
> >  even though we have been hearing a lot about the shootings, the 
> >  rate is actually lower than in the past.  It goes to show how the
media
> >  distorts reality.
> 
> The only reason we've heared a lot about school shootings in 1998 was
because
> they happened in rural schools. 
> 
> Trey
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 08 Jan 1999 13:44:03 EST

Those bad Contra games were so bad because Konami of America hired outside
developers to make 'em. Catlevania is done by Konami of Japan, so I don't
think there's too much to worry about.

~Matt

<<Is anybody besides me excited (or concerned) about the latest Castlevania
game; the N64's first Castlevania? I have seen just about nothing on this game
at IGN64 and that makes me wonder if it will be a worthy follow up to Symphony
of the Night and Konami's keeping it under wraps to to keep us in suspense or
if it will turn out to be another Contra : Legacy of War (or C: The Contra
Adventure) and Konami is keeping it under wraps because it sucks so bad. 
 
I know it will be different from every other Castlevania I've played because
it's in 3-D. I would have prefered it stayed 2-D, the N64 deserves more 2-D
games, and with Goemon going back to 2-D, if a bit Einhanderish, I get worried
about Konami's expertise in the 3-D realm. And I hope the days & nights are
longer (an hour of each would suit me shiny) in Castlevania than they are in
Zelda. Not to knock Zelda, I'm sure that Hyrule is just on a really small
planet. 
 
Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64]  "Violence in Videogames" off topic : school shootings
Date: 08 Jan 1999 13:46:41 EST

That, and the media's "Flavor of the month," was showing America how corrupt
our young were, much like the Pres is their flavor of the month now.

~Matt

<<The only reason we've heared a lot about school shootings in 1998 was
because they happened in rural schools. 
 
Trey>>

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 13:15:19 -0500

>I think that the N64 Resident Evil will be a totally new game. I hope it will
>be. I don't need another copy of the original, three is enough. Why bring out
>an N64 version? The N64 needs a game like RE 64. And if RE 64 is a major
>sucess (don't blow it Capcom) maybe games like Mega Man & Street Fighter
could
>be not too far off. There's always room in my collection for another Resident
>Evil game. Now I just hope there's a RE 3 for the PlayStation.

I'm very surprised that Capcom has announced RE64 before any other title.
The reason: the N64 is a kids system. I realize it has games from all
genres now, but first and foremost it has cartoony games. The best games on
the system, save GE and T2, are made with kids in mind but appeal to
everyone. I'm not sure there's a large enough base to sell an adult title
on the N64. Also, I hate the series and unless it changes drastically from
RE2 I won't even consider it.


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From: John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com>
Subject: RE: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 13:49:50 -0600 

Ah, I'm glad someone else said it first, as I was hesitant to chime in with
what seemed to be the minority view. I, too, just plain never "got" the
appeal of the Resident Evil series. I'm not as jazzed as others about FMV or
pre-rendered backgrounds in general (I'll take in-engine cutscenes any day),
and the games (admittedly, just from some cursory play) seemed too *linear*
or "on rails" to me, too much like playing Dragon's Lair (am I dating myself
here?) or Out of This World. As in, once you know what "path" to take and
what moves to make and what buttons to press where and when, the game is
beaten once and for all.

Anyone else agree? Disagree? Feel free to "enlighten" me.

JG

-----Original Message-----

I'm very surprised that Capcom has announced RE64 before any other title.
Also, I hate the series and unless it changes drastically from
RE2 I won't even consider it.


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help
Date: 08 Jan 1999 15:16:02 EST

Spoiler Space











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.


In the Guerdo Training Grounds I completed all the objectives (that I could
find) but I'm short two keys. I found the secret passage in the Wolfos room
and have the Silver Gauntlets so I was able to move the big block and all
that. I noticed there is a small chest on the celing of the room with all the
doors but I have no idea on how to get to it.

In Ganon's Keep does anybody have any strategies on how to get all the white
coins in the Fire Room? I use the shield magic (somebody's Love) on the
platform with the dual spinning flamethrowers, but the coins on the other side
of the room seem unreachable. 

Finally, has anybody looked at the lame walkthroughs on GameFaqs.com? I don't
want to go off on a rant but these people really know how to copy & paste, and
then they take credit for that garbage. If I see one more passage that says
"plant a seed as young Link and then climb the beanstalk as adult Link...". I
doubt most of these "experts" have even gotten past the Deku Tree. That's just
my opinion.. I may be wrong.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 15:26:00 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 15:11:08 EST, you write:

> seemed too *linear*
>  or "on rails" to me, too much like playing Dragon's Lair (am I dating
myself
>  here?) or Out of This World. As in, once you know what "path" to take and
>  what moves to make and what buttons to press where and when, the game is
>  beaten once and for all.
>  
>  Anyone else agree? Disagree? Feel free to "enlighten" me.
>  
>  JG
>  

Sure Resident Evil games are linear, platformers usually are. But to say it's
like Dragon's Lair, that's going way off base. Run around, shoot zombies and
other mutations, solve puzzles, get better weapons, and follow the B Horror
Movie story as it goes. And sometimes crap your pants, or come close to
it.(Resident Evil 2 Disc 2 {Claire} Scenario 2 when you're going to retrieve
the cog) It's all good as far as I'm concerned.

Trey

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From: Matt Ma <MA@lpsi.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help (no spoilers)
Date: 08 Jan 1999 14:25:36 -0600

>>> <TreyTable@aol.com> 01/08/99 12:16pm >>>
>Finally, has anybody looked at the lame walkthroughs on
>GameFaqs.com? I don't want to go off on a rant but these people really
>know how to copy & paste, and then they take credit for that garbage.

Have you checked out the huge FAQ by Zauron? It used to be at
gamefaqs, but not anymore. There's a link to it at zhq.com, or you can
find it directly by going to
http://cc.usu.edu/~SLC77/Zelda64Guide.txt
Zauron's Zelda FAQ is definately the best one out there that I've ever
seen.

matt ma

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] Scars and Rogue Squadran
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:02:39 +30000


Has anyone played SCARS?  is it like mariokart or even better?
how about Rogue S, reviews?


-Vi

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:42:49 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 7:12:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< I think that the N64 Resident Evil will be a totally new game. I hope it
will
 be. I don't need another copy of the original, three is enough. Why bring out
 an N64 version? The N64 needs a game like RE 64. And if RE 64 is a major
 sucess (don't blow it Capcom) maybe games like Mega Man & Street Fighter
could
 be not too far off. There's always room in my collection for another Resident
 Evil game. Now I just hope there's a RE 3 for the PlayStation.
 
 Trey >>


	Ugh.  I wouldn't care to see a RE game on the N64; I don't even care for PSX
ones.  As for its' success influencing the release of other Capcom games like
Mega Man and Street Fighter, I don't see how there is any basis there.  Street
Fighter, Mega Man, and Resident Evil are three TOTALLY different games and the
success of one isn't going to effect the success of another.  Like I said, I
hate RE, but I absolutley love SF and Mega Man.

--David

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:41:24 EST

Huh? Where have you been? More than 50 % of the N64 user base is 18-25 years
old. And with the release of games like Rogue Squadron, Turok 2: Seeds of
Evil, and The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time, I doubt that number has
gone down. It's probably gone up. And it's a kid's system?

~Matt

<<I'm very surprised that Capcom has announced RE64 before any other title.
The reason: the N64 is a kids system. I realize it has games from all
genres now, but first and foremost it has cartoony games. The best games on
the system, save GE and T2, are made with kids in mind but appeal to
everyone. I'm not sure there's a large enough base to sell an adult title
on the N64. Also, I hate the series and unless it changes drastically from
RE2 I won't even consider it.>>

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:46:21 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 7:30:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< Is anybody besides me excited (or concerned) about the latest Castlevania
 game; the N64's first Castlevania? I have seen just about nothing on this
game
 at IGN64 and that makes me wonder if it will be a worthy follow up to
Symphony
 of the Night and Konami's keeping it under wraps to to keep us in suspense or
 if it will turn out to be another Contra : Legacy of War (or C: The Contra
 Adventure) and Konami is keeping it under wraps because it sucks so bad. 
 
 I know it will be different from every other Castlevania I've played because
 it's in 3-D. I would have prefered it stayed 2-D, the N64 deserves more 2-D
 games, and with Goemon going back to 2-D, if a bit Einhanderish, I get
worried
 about Konami's expertise in the 3-D realm. And I hope the days & nights are
 longer (an hour of each would suit me shiny) in Castlevania than they are in
 Zelda. Not to knock Zelda, I'm sure that Hyrule is just on a really small
 planet. 
 
 Trey >>

	Nintendo has put out a lot of info concerning the new Castlevania game in
Nintendo Power.
	As for more 2-D games on the N64, it all depends.  If they were games that
would benefit the Nintendo 64 system in some way it would be okay.  For
instance, getting  some RPGs out onto the system.  But other than that, I
don't think it would be that great.  The N64 was created for 3D games.

--David

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] The last 5 Skulltulas.
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:46:58 EST

Okay, in Zelda, I have all but 5 Skulltulas. I have all of the ones from all
the dungeons, even the ones from the well and the Ice Cavern. Now on my map,
it has a gold spider symbol next to each and every location you can go to with
the cursor except Zora's Fountain and The Lost Woods. I have NO CLUE what to
do. I've searched every possible place for these damn spiders. I've planted
seeds, bugs, bombs, songs, and ridden all the leaves. I've killed all the
enimies and lookied in all the holes. Are there any spiders in Gannon's Keep
(other than the one outside near the crushed bridge). Please, anyone, help!

~Matt

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:48:48 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 7:54:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<<  The problem with making
 longer days is that some gamers don't have 2 hours to sit down and wait for
 day to pass into night. Let's say you had an objective that could only be
 gotten during the night, but when you start playing the game it is day. you
 would have to walk around for an hour, by which time you would probably get
 bored and quit. >>

	Not so.  In the review in NP they said there would be Sun and Moon items you
could use to change day to night and night to day.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:54:56 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 12:18:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< In the Guerdo Training Grounds I completed all the objectives (that I could
 find) but I'm short two keys. I found the secret passage in the Wolfos room
 and have the Silver Gauntlets so I was able to move the big block and all
 that. I noticed there is a small chest on the celing of the room with all the
 doors but I have no idea on how to get to it.
 
 In Ganon's Keep does anybody have any strategies on how to get all the white
 coins in the Fire Room? I use the shield magic (somebody's Love) on the
 platform with the dual spinning flamethrowers, but the coins on the other
side
 of the room seem unreachable. 
 
 Finally, has anybody looked at the lame walkthroughs on GameFaqs.com? I don't
 want to go off on a rant but these people really know how to copy & paste,
and
 then they take credit for that garbage. If I see one more passage that says
 "plant a seed as young Link and then climb the beanstalk as adult Link...". I
 doubt most of these "experts" have even gotten past the Deku Tree. That's
just
 my opinion.. I may be wrong.
 
 Trey >>


	I had a hell of time trying to get that key as well.  Use the Lens of Truth
and look at the ceiling when you're on the first level.  There is a hole
somewhere around there and you can climb one of the fences to get to it.
	As for the white coins, you need to get the Golden Gauntlets out of the
Shadow Room first.  Once you have them, you can move that huge column with the
Cresent Moon on it.  Link will throw it behind him into the lava, which will
create a platform that you can cross on.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] The last 5 Skulltulas.
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:57:10 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 1:49:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bastion007@aol.com
writes:

<< Okay, in Zelda, I have all but 5 Skulltulas. I have all of the ones from
all
 the dungeons, even the ones from the well and the Ice Cavern. Now on my map,
 it has a gold spider symbol next to each and every location you can go to
with
 the cursor except Zora's Fountain and The Lost Woods. I have NO CLUE what to
 do. I've searched every possible place for these damn spiders. I've planted
 seeds, bugs, bombs, songs, and ridden all the leaves. I've killed all the
 enimies and lookied in all the holes. Are there any spiders in Gannon's Keep
 (other than the one outside near the crushed bridge). Please, anyone, help!
 
 ~Matt >>

	Did you try bashing some trees?  There are several Gold Skulltulas in trees.

--David

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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: [N64] Shadow Temple Map...
Date: 08 Jan 1999 17:22:07 -0500

   I've got the compass for the shadow temple and the map should be even
easier to come across, but I haven't found it yet... any help?     
-Peter

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help (no spoilers)
Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:07:31 -0500

Yeah, I've seen that FAQ.. I went and looked at it after I beat the game the
first time to see if there were any secrets I missed. I must say, it is the
most comprehensive FAQ I have very seen.. if you print it out, it would come
to over 80 pages. UGO is preparing an HTML version of the FAQ, if you don't
want to open a VERY large text file. I don't understand why people would go
out and spend money on a strategy guide when stuff of this quality is
available for free.

-----Original Message-----


>>>> <TreyTable@aol.com> 01/08/99 12:16pm >>>
>>Finally, has anybody looked at the lame walkthroughs on
>>GameFaqs.com? I don't want to go off on a rant but these people really
>>know how to copy & paste, and then they take credit for that garbage.
>
>Have you checked out the huge FAQ by Zauron? It used to be at
>gamefaqs, but not anymore. There's a link to it at zhq.com, or you can
>find it directly by going to
>http://cc.usu.edu/~SLC77/Zelda64Guide.txt
>Zauron's Zelda FAQ is definately the best one out there that I've ever
>seen.
>
>matt ma
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Blockbuster Experiences
Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:14:04 EST

	Okay, so I go to Blockbuster today because I wanted to rent some of the new
games.  I picked up Turok 2 and Star Wars: RS.  They both suck and I wish I
had my $5.28 back.
	Now, on to better things.  My local Blockbuster had a Dreamcast!  With Sonic
Adventure!  It was very cool.  The graphics were very sharp and crisp and play
was smooth.  However, the camera almost continuosly stopped in place, kind of
when you lock the camera in place in Mario.  This made it kind of hard to
position Sonic.
	The controller was very light and comfortable, not like I thought it would
be.  Overall I was pleasantly surprised.

--David

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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Shadow Temple Map...
Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:02:24 -0600 (CST)


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This is easy I hope I can explain it. Go in to the 1st room where you
push the statue around. Use the lens of truth  to see a door where a
picture  is.Go down the hall through the door  and the map is in the 1st
room on the right. you can only see it with the lens of truth.


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   I've got the compass for the shadow temple and the map should be even
easier to come across, but I haven't found it yet... any help?     
-Peter

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 is confusing
Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:13:21 -0600

Man!  I just beat the 2nd level in T2 today and I missed 1 key in the
first level so since I was too lazy to get off my arse and get it, I
went to the 4th level instead.  All I can say is WOOF!  I cant
understand anything in the lair of the blind ones everything looks the
same and I found myself wandering around for literally 1 hour and all I
got from it were 2 guns and more confusion (especially with that one
room that shakes... whats up with that?!)  This level is crazy and
confusing.  Confusing=bad.  Anyone else think so?

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 08 Jan 1999 15:12:11 -0800

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The RE64 game should be successful.  Their is a RE movie coming out soon =
and also a RE game for the New Dreamcast.  Besides, I don't think anyone =
would mind playing the next addition in the platinum selling series

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  Hello all!  Hope everyone had a good Christmas and a happy New Year!  =
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  Anyway, I was just checking out IGN64 and the first big news on there: =
Resident Evil 64.  It's apparently on it's way to becoming an actual N64 =
game.  But isn't it a little too late?  I mean, the Playstation version =
has been out for a long time now, and RE2 is out, so why bring out an =
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Shadow Temple Map...
Date: 08 Jan 1999 21:11:53 -0500

Ok, thanks... I figured it was simple... I had doublechecked that room
but not thoroughly;  I figured one good thing( the hover boots) was all
they'd have in those rooms...  :)   -Peter


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Subject: [N64] IGN PRESS PASS
Date: 08 Jan 1999 17:03:30 -0600

IGN PRESS PASS            Today's date: Jan. 08, 1999
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2. PC TOP STORIES
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   * UNREAL TOURNAMENT DETAILED
   * BLIZZARD ANNOUNCES BROOD WAR TOURNEY
3. N64 TOP STORIES
   * N64 ENTERS THE WORLD OF SURVIVAL HORROR
   * ZELDA BREAKS ALL RECORDS
   * FIFA 99
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   * LEGEND OF LEGAIA
   * FINAL FANTASY COLLECTION COMING
   * SF ALPHA 3 MAY LOSE PDA
5. DREAMCAST TOP STORIES
   * SHEN MUE VIDEO FOOTAGE
   * SAKA TAKU SOCCER!
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Capcom's flagship scenario writer lets out the big news: Resident Evil 64
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ZELDA BREAKS ALL RECORDS
2.5 million copies in less than two months and higher revenues than major
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:22:09 -0600 (CST)


On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> on the N64. Also, I hate the series and unless it changes drastically from
> RE2 I won't even consider it.

I love the series and will buy the N64 version the day it comes out!  :)

Stryder


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 is confusing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:31:31 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> Man!  I just beat the 2nd level in T2 today and I missed 1 key in the
> first level so since I was too lazy to get off my arse and get it, I
> went to the 4th level instead.  All I can say is WOOF!  I cant
> understand anything in the lair of the blind ones everything looks the
> same and I found myself wandering around for literally 1 hour and all I
> got from it were 2 guns and more confusion (especially with that one
> room that shakes... whats up with that?!)  This level is crazy and
> confusing.  Confusing=bad.  Anyone else think so?

Yep...I just now finished the 4th level and it was pretty hard.  Those
blind ones can really hurt you fast!  Don't worry about that shaking, it
is only in a small part of the level and does not happen anywhere else in
the level.

Stryder


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64]  Rogue Squadron
Date: 09 Jan 1999 01:43:55 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 16:03:28 EST, you write:

> Has anyone played SCARS?  is it like mariokart or even better?
>  how about Rogue S, reviews?
>  
>  
>  -Vi

Never played SCARS, but I have Rogue Squadron and truth be told, it's not all
that great. Read Chris van der Stock's review at Nintendojo, it reflects my
views of the game completely. You can be off somewhere busting up Probe Droids
or duking it out with Tie Interceptors and some guy will come across the comm
shouting, "Rogue Squadron!? Where's my cover?!". All I can say to that is,
"good question, where are you? My radar is just about useless, I have no idea
where you are. There's like 5 other ships in the Squadron and they're not near
me, so where are they?" Killer graphics (with the Expansion Pak) when no
hidden by fog, killer music especially with a surround sound stereo. The
control is dead on for all the ships & vehicles. If it weren't for the fun hit
& run levels I would have gotten rid of this game long ago. One thing that
really bothers me is when your miss an objective the level is over, no if's
and's or but's. The voice is good, but don't be fooled by IGN64, Luke does not
sound like Mark Hammil (sp?), Han Solo does not sound like Harrison Ford.
Wedge sounds almost like whoever really played him. Chewbacca &  RD-D2 do
sound likethemselves though. (Gee, I wonder why?)

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: [N64] GBC and Zelda
Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:46:47 -0600 (CST)


I just read that some future GBC games will have a built in rumble device
in the cart.  That seems kind of interesting. Wonder what the carts will
look like?

Also, here are some cool Zelda christmas sales stats:

"Zelda Rocks Christmas
Nintendo has announced that The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sold
nearly 2.5 million units during the last six weeks of 1998, making it not
only the fastest selling U.S. game of all time, but also the best selling
game of 1998, despite only being available at the end of the year.  In
addition, Zelda grossed more than any Hollywood film in release at the
same time.  Here's the stats:
        - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time -- $150 million
        - A Bug's Life -- $114 million
        - Enemy of the State -- $92 million
        - The Rugrats Movie -- $85 million"


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 01:50:14 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 16:44:07 EST, you write:

> As for its' success influencing the release of other Capcom games like
>  Mega Man and Street Fighter, I don't see how there is any basis there
> --David

If RE 64 & Magical Tetris make a good profit Capcom may decide that the N64 is
worth making some of it's less popular series' for. If you haven't noticed,
the Resident Evil franchise is a very popular series.

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64]  Rogue Squadron
Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:58:47 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> views of the game completely. You can be off somewhere busting up Probe Droids
> or duking it out with Tie Interceptors and some guy will come across the comm
> shouting, "Rogue Squadron!? Where's my cover?!". All I can say to that is,
> "good question, where are you? My radar is just about useless, I have no idea
> where you are. There's like 5 other ships in the Squadron and they're not near
> me, so where are they?" 

I really don't understand your dislike of the game.  The radar seems to
work fine for me.  It almost always shows you exactly where to go (via the
orange arrow) and clearly marks Empire, Rebel, and neutral objects with
different colors.


> & run levels I would have gotten rid of this game long ago. One thing that
> really bothers me is when your miss an objective the level is over, no if's
> and's or but's. 

Yeah, I do wish you could just wander around the levels more without
having to worry about objectives (like Goldeneye)...but, it really is not
that big a deal to me.


>The voice is good, but don't be fooled by IGN64, Luke does not
> sound like Mark Hammil (sp?), 

Sounds quite close to me.

Stryder


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 09 Jan 1999 02:01:14 EST

In a message dated 99-01-08 16:47:57 EST, you write:

> 	As for more 2-D games on the N64, it all depends.  If they were games that
>  would benefit the Nintendo 64 system in some way it would be okay.  For
>  instance, getting  some RPGs out onto the system.  But other than that, I
>  don't think it would be that great.  The N64 was created for 3D games.
>  
>  --David

The PlayStation was created for 3D games too, and look a Symphony of the
Night. A 2D game on a 3D system. What about Street Fighter Alpha 3? Wouldn't
you like to see that on the N64? Or a Capcom "VS" fighter. I'm sure with the
expansion pak it could be done. But as far as the Expansion Pak goes I'd like
to it used to its full potential, like Capcom did with the Saturn. Make it not
an option, but a requirement. That's all I have to say.

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 02:32:41 EST

In a message dated 1/8/99 10:51:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< If RE 64 & Magical Tetris make a good profit Capcom may decide that the N64
is
 worth making some of it's less popular series' for. If you haven't noticed,
 the Resident Evil franchise is a very popular series.
 
 Trey >>

	No, I haven't noticed because I don't care for RE and so don't really keep
tabs on it.

--David

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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Testing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 09:58:50 -0600 (CST)


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From: TerryLLewis@webtv.net (Terry Lewis)
Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:06:03 -0500 (EST)

  My hat is off to you guys out there who spent the time and effort to
catch fish 20 pounds and over. I managed to catch an 18 pounder last
night using the floating lure ( I haven't acquired the other bait yet,
but I understand it is easier to attract large fish with the sinking
lure ).  After finally catching one of this size without losing it, I
must admit it can be pretty challenging. Congrats to you folks in the 20
pound class range.
Terry


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From: oseannyboy@juno.com (Sean M Fernandez)
Subject: [N64] DKR Help
Date: 09 Jan 1999 08:48:23 -0800

In Diddy Kong Racing, what happens when you get all the pieces to the
T.T. Amulet? And can someone give me tips on how to win the Greenwood
Village race in the Silver Coin challenge?
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] RE64: A little too late?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:45:19 -0500

"Less popular"? I wouldn't describe the Capcom fighters (Street Fighter or
the Vs. Series) or Megaman as less popular than RE..

I think we would all have liked it better if Capcom had announced one of
those games for the N64. However, at least RE is a step up from Tetris.

>In a message dated 99-01-08 16:44:07 EST, you write:
>
>> As for its' success influencing the release of other Capcom games like
>>  Mega Man and Street Fighter, I don't see how there is any basis there
>> --David
>
>If RE 64 & Magical Tetris make a good profit Capcom may decide that the N64
is
>worth making some of it's less popular series' for. If you haven't noticed,
>the Resident Evil franchise is a very popular series.
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64]  Rogue Squadron
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:51:28 -0500



>In a message dated 99-01-08 16:03:28 EST, you write:
>
>> Has anyone played SCARS?  is it like mariokart or even better?
>>  how about Rogue S, reviews?
>>  -Vi
>
>You can be off somewhere busting up Probe Droids
>or duking it out with Tie Interceptors and some guy will come across the
comm
>shouting, "Rogue Squadron!? Where's my cover?!". All I can say to that is,
>"good question, where are you? My radar is just about useless, I have no
idea
>where you are. There's like 5 other ships in the Squadron and they're not
near
>me, so where are they?"

Well, in those missions your objective is to accompany the supply train (or
shuttle, or ground troops, or whatever), so you really shouldn't be flying
too far away to kill fighters. You have to prioritize which ones are
important to kill and which are not. For instance, always kill TIE Bombers
when you see them, because they do massive damage against ground.
Interceptors or Fighters are not as important, since they do little to no
damage vs ground.

>One thing that really bothers me is when your miss an objective the level
is over, no if's
>and's or but's.

Um..maybe I'm missing the point of your objection here? Why would you want
to continue flying around if the mission is over? Most of the missions you
can take your sweet time accomplishing the objectives, only a few of the
(the escort ones, especially) require a time limit.

>The voice is good, but don't be fooled by IGN64, Luke does not
>sound like Mark Hammil (sp?), Han Solo does not sound like Harrison Ford.
>Wedge sounds almost like whoever really played him. Chewbacca &  RD-D2 do
>sound likethemselves though. (Gee, I wonder why?)


I thought they were dead on, especially Han Solo. If you watch Return of the
Empire, and listen to the Hoth battle, you'll notive that Luke's comments
when roping the AT-AT in the movie and in the game sound very similar.

>Trey



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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 is confusing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:56:49 -0500


In Turok I'm not really having problems with health (like 40% of the time
I'm above 100%), but I just can't find stuff. The previous levels were ok,
since there were landmarks, but Lair of the Blind Ones is horrible. I wander
around for about 2 hours, don't accomplish anything, and then just stop
playing. The next day, I go back in, wander for an hour, and then stop. I
now refuse to play that game anymore, I'm going to let my brother beat it
while I get all the medals in Rogue Sqaudron (so far I have 4 gold, 11
silver and 1 bronze)

>Yep...I just now finished the 4th level and it was pretty hard.  Those
>blind ones can really hurt you fast!  Don't worry about that shaking, it
>is only in a small part of the level and does not happen anywhere else in
>the level.
>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 09 Jan 1999 12:00:46 -0500

I seem to recall that Konami had a hard time making SotN because the PSX
didn't like to do 2D sprite graphics. And look at the quality of the Vs.
games on the PSX as compared to Saturn. Game companies have to try extra
hard to make good 2D games in the 3D systems, and I don't think that many of
them will have enough motivation to overcome that difficulty in addition to
the constraints of the cart format.

>The PlayStation was created for 3D games too, and look a Symphony of the
>Night. A 2D game on a 3D system. What about Street Fighter Alpha 3?
Wouldn't
>you like to see that on the N64? Or a Capcom "VS" fighter. I'm sure with
the
>expansion pak it could be done. But as far as the Expansion Pak goes I'd
like
>to it used to its full potential, like Capcom did with the Saturn. Make it
not
>an option, but a requirement. That's all I have to say.
>
>Trey



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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 12:03:41 -0500

Speaking of Zelda fishing, how the hell do I find the sinking lure? I hear
that it appears randomly in some spot, and that it sometimes isn't even
there? I've tried leaving and coming back in like 20 times, each time
swimming around and trying to get it. Is it usually in the shallow section?
Is it on the surface, or should I use the iron boots? Can you see it when it
is there?

-----Original Message-----


  My hat is off to you guys out there who spent the time and effort to
catch fish 20 pounds and over. I managed to catch an 18 pounder last
night using the floating lure ( I haven't acquired the other bait yet,
but I understand it is easier to attract large fish with the sinking
lure ).  After finally catching one of this size without losing it, I
must admit it can be pretty challenging. Congrats to you folks in the 20
pound class range.
Terry


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Subject: [N64] Aggy88@aol.com: Fwd: Year 1999 Please Forward !!!
Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:22:09 -0800

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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 14:55:55 -0500

I always search around the area where that little stream is.  I have usually
found it here 85-90 percent of the time.
-----Original Message-----


>Speaking of Zelda fishing, how the hell do I find the sinking lure? I hear
>that it appears randomly in some spot, and that it sometimes isn't even
>there? I've tried leaving and coming back in like 20 times, each time
>swimming around and trying to get it. Is it usually in the shallow section?
>Is it on the surface, or should I use the iron boots? Can you see it when
it
>is there?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry Lewis <TerryLLewis@webtv.net>
>To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com <n64-digest@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 11:06 AM
>Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
>
>
>  My hat is off to you guys out there who spent the time and effort to
>catch fish 20 pounds and over. I managed to catch an 18 pounder last
>night using the floating lure ( I haven't acquired the other bait yet,
>but I understand it is easier to attract large fish with the sinking
>lure ).  After finally catching one of this size without losing it, I
>must admit it can be pretty challenging. Congrats to you folks in the 20
>pound class range.
>Terry
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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 16:29:47 -0600

Very strange.... In my expierience --It has always been on top of the
log in the middle of lake.--- It has never been anywhere else ..And is
always there everytime I want it.--- It really IS a LOT easier to find
and catch the bigger fish with the sinking lure.  Maybe it's there
because I got The GOLD EDITION :)     -That should start a really long
thread.


Corey.




>Speaking of Zelda fishing, how the hell do I find the sinking lure? I hear
>that it appears randomly in some spot, and that it sometimes isn't even
>there? I've tried leaving and coming back in like 20 times, each time
>swimming around and trying to get it. Is it usually in the shallow section?
>Is it on the surface, or should I use the iron boots? Can you see it when
it
>is there?

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Aggy88@aol.com: Fwd: Year 1999 Please Forward !!!
Date: 09 Jan 1999 17:31:38 EST

In a message dated 1/9/99 10:48:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, win-thug@juno.com
writes:

<< --part1_915600100_boundary
 Content-ID: <0_915600100@inet_out.mail.aol.com.4>
 Content-type: message/rfc822
 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
 Content-disposition: inline
 
 From: JY7ORCA@aol.com
 Return-path: <JY7ORCA@aol.com>
 To: Sport4star@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Year 1999 Please Forward !!!
 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:06:28 EST
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
 
 In a message dated 12/23/98 11:04:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 reserved4uonly@yahoo.com writes:
 
 << > I 	If we keep this going until September 9th, 1999 (9-9-99),
 I
  PROMISE YOU
  > that
  >   everyone's name who this was sent to will be in the Guinness Book of
  > Records.
  >   I HAVE PROOF! I E-MAILED THEM & TOLD THEM I WOULD START ONE & THEY
  SAID
  > THEY'D
  >   SAVE A SPOT FOR US IN THE 2000 Special addition!
  >    
  >    	So, if we keep this going...We'll all be a part of the
 book!
  >    
  >    	So please, have some heart and send this to a few people.
 It
  would really
  > be
  >   nice. You get something out of it too! So, send this right now! >>
  >  
  >  	Thanks very much!
  >    >>

	

	I vote for a suspension because of this post.  I hate getting chain letters
in my mail and it doesn't help that someone sent one through the list.  Also
I'm fairly certain it's against the law (I could be wrong on that one).

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 17:34:08 EST

In a message dated 1/9/99 2:32:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com writes:

<< Very strange.... In my expierience --It has always been on top of the
 log in the middle of lake.--- It has never been anywhere else ..And is
 always there everytime I want it.--- It really IS a LOT easier to find
 and catch the bigger fish with the sinking lure.  Maybe it's there
 because I got The GOLD EDITION :)     -That should start a really long
 thread.
 
 
 Corey. >>


	It isn't there because you have a Gold Cartridge.  All cartridge are the
exact same game, except that one is gold and one is gray.

--David

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Sales and Battle Tanx
Date: 09 Jan 1999 17:43:10 +0000

> Date:          Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:46:47 -0600 (CST)
> From:          Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       [N64] GBC and Zelda
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> I just read that some future GBC games will have a built in rumble device
> in the cart.  That seems kind of interesting. Wonder what the carts will
> look like?
> 
> Also, here are some cool Zelda christmas sales stats:
> 
> "Zelda Rocks Christmas
> Nintendo has announced that The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sold
> nearly 2.5 million units during the last six weeks of 1998, making it not
> only the fastest selling U.S. game of all time, but also the best selling
> game of 1998, despite only being available at the end of the year.  In
> addition, Zelda grossed more than any Hollywood film in release at the
> same time.  Here's the stats:
>         - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time -- $150 million
>         - A Bug's Life -- $114 million
>         - Enemy of the State -- $92 million
>         - The Rugrats Movie -- $85 million"
> 

     That's pretty cool about Zelda. And I guess a pretty big accomplishement, but like
someone wrote on IGN64 Zelda does cost about 12 times as much as a movie ticket
does. So... It's not too hard to get more money from it. 
     And anyone play Battle Tanx, yet? I'm renting it now. 1-player mode is decent, but
when you get to the multi-player.. Wow.. It's excellent! Probably one of the best
multi-player games on the system. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 16:46:54 -0600

Do you have both the Gold Edition AND the Grey Edition to compare them? 
Maybe they put the sinking lure in the same spot on a certain number of
Cartriges ---And those were painted Gold to identify them.--- :)   -I am
prdicting a really long thread here. :)



>It isn't there because you have a Gold Cartridge.  All cartridge are >the exact same game, except that one is gold and one is gray.

>--David

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 16:56:08 -0800

I can't believe you actually fell for that :)

----------
> From: Davidxvx@aol.com
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
> Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 2:34 PM
> 
> In a message dated 1/9/99 2:32:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com writes:
> 
> << Very strange.... In my expierience --It has always been on top of the
>  log in the middle of lake.--- It has never been anywhere else ..And is
>  always there everytime I want it.--- It really IS a LOT easier to find
>  and catch the bigger fish with the sinking lure.  Maybe it's there
>  because I got The GOLD EDITION :)     -That should start a really long
>  thread.
>  
>  
>  Corey. >>
> 
> 
> 	It isn't there because you have a Gold Cartridge.  All cartridge are the
> exact same game, except that one is gold and one is gray.
> 
> --David
> 
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 09 Jan 1999 17:20:13 -0800

Please stop.

----------
> From: Corey Jaeckel <g124619@caresp.tel.gte.com>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
> Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 2:46 PM
> 
> Do you have both the Gold Edition AND the Grey Edition to compare them? 
> Maybe they put the sinking lure in the same spot on a certain number of
> Cartriges ---And those were painted Gold to identify them.--- :)   -I am
> prdicting a really long thread here. :)
> 
> 
> 
> >It isn't there because you have a Gold Cartridge.  All cartridge are
>the exact same game, except that one is gold and one is gray.
> 
> >--David
> 
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 09 Jan 1999 20:54:17 -0500

  I just beat Zelda and the end was awesome... heck, the game is
awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right? 
 
   I've got every item except the, err, ice arrow(??) and a bottle...  I
know how to get the bottle(dang Poes), but I don't know where the arrow
is.  Any help?  Thanks in advance.

							-Peter

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 09 Jan 1999 20:59:46 EST

After much toil, trouble, cursing, and bathroom breaks, I got all 100 of those
damn Skulltulas. And a whopping Huge Rupee. Not exactly worth it, but hey, the
ending was. Anyhoo, I need some help. I need 2 more pieces of heart to have
all 20. I need to beat Dampe in less than a minute. Any tips? And I have to
make those frogs eat all the butterflies. What buttons do I press? Finally, is
there ayway to get the upgrade to carry 40 Deku Nuts that I've read about
online? Supposedly, the Mask of Truth makes them give them to me, but I've
also heard that once you become older Link, you can;t get the upgrade. Can
anyone help me with these things? I'll give ya a cookie if ya can.

~Matt

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Aggy88@aol.com: Fwd: Year 1999 Please Forward !!!
Date: 09 Jan 1999 19:43:33 -0700

Yes, he was suspended.  Along with the member who sent a pic to the list.

Greg

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/9/99 10:48:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, win-thug@juno.com
> writes:
> 
> << --part1_915600100_boundary
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>  Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
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> 
>  From: JY7ORCA@aol.com
>  Return-path: <JY7ORCA@aol.com>
>  To: Sport4star@aol.com
>  Subject: Re: Year 1999 Please Forward !!!
>  Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:06:28 EST
>  Mime-Version: 1.0
>  Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>  Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
> 
>  In a message dated 12/23/98 11:04:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>  reserved4uonly@yahoo.com writes:
> 
>  << > I         If we keep this going until September 9th, 1999 (9-9-99),
>  I
>   PROMISE YOU
>   > that
>   >   everyone's name who this was sent to will be in the Guinness Book of
>   > Records.
>   >   I HAVE PROOF! I E-MAILED THEM & TOLD THEM I WOULD START ONE & THEY
>   SAID
>   > THEY'D
>   >   SAVE A SPOT FOR US IN THE 2000 Special addition!
>   >
>   >     So, if we keep this going...We'll all be a part of the
>  book!
>   >
>   >     So please, have some heart and send this to a few people.
>  It
>   would really
>   > be
>   >   nice. You get something out of it too! So, send this right now! >>
>   >
>   >     Thanks very much!
>   >    >>
> 
> 
> 
>         I vote for a suspension because of this post.  I hate getting chain letters
> in my mail and it doesn't help that someone sent one through the list.  Also
> I'm fairly certain it's against the law (I could be wrong on that one).
> 
> --David
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 09 Jan 1999 20:50:05 -0600

Ice arrows- geurdo valley training grounds (unlock all the locked
doors).  In regard to the sequel I can say that as long as Nintendo
exists, there will be Zelda.

Peter W Caton wrote:
> 
>   I just beat Zelda and the end was awesome... heck, the game is
> awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right?
> 
>    I've got every item except the, err, ice arrow(??) and a bottle...  I
> know how to get the bottle(dang Poes), but I don't know where the arrow
> is.  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
> 
>                                                         -Peter
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 09 Jan 1999 20:52:24 -0600

For the frogs I just went crazy and mashed buttons until they gave it to
me... as for the upgrade try going into the forest theatre as young link
with the mask of truth.  To beat Dampe memorize where to turn and
continuously roll because it makes you go faster... now how's about that
cookie?

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> After much toil, trouble, cursing, and bathroom breaks, I got all 100 of those
> damn Skulltulas. And a whopping Huge Rupee. Not exactly worth it, but hey, the
> ending was. Anyhoo, I need some help. I need 2 more pieces of heart to have
> all 20. I need to beat Dampe in less than a minute. Any tips? And I have to
> make those frogs eat all the butterflies. What buttons do I press? Finally, is
> there ayway to get the upgrade to carry 40 Deku Nuts that I've read about
> online? Supposedly, the Mask of Truth makes them give them to me, but I've
> also heard that once you become older Link, you can;t get the upgrade. Can
> anyone help me with these things? I'll give ya a cookie if ya can.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 09 Jan 1999 22:04:49 -0500

Ok, Dampe's heart: keep on using the roll attack but by all means, don't
hit the fire balls; if it means to miss rolling in a certain spot don't
roll... believe me, you'll get the path down after a few times!  The
little tree dudes in the lost woods won't respond to you when you where
the mask of truth, and I don't know what mask to use for them, so you're
on you're own there unless someone else can help...  oh yeah, the frogs,
it's pretty simple,  each frog represents one of the buttons on the
controller(c buttons and a), If I can remember right, this is how they
work:
Middle frog = Down C
Top Left frog =Left C
Top Right frog =Up C
Down Left frog ="A"
Down Right frog =Right C
 but if you make a mistake they'll razz you and jump into the water, but 
then you can just start over, memorize the order(write it down if you
want), and get the heart... But remember, you have to hit the combo
really fast so know the buttons...            


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:59:46 EST Bastion007@aol.com writes:
>After much toil, trouble, cursing, and bathroom breaks, I got all 100 
>of those
>damn Skulltulas. And a whopping Huge Rupee. Not exactly worth it, but 
>hey, the
>ending was. Anyhoo, I need some help. I need 2 more pieces of heart to 
>have
>all 20. I need to beat Dampe in less than a minute. Any tips? And I 
>have to
>make those frogs eat all the butterflies. What buttons do I press? 
>Finally, is
>there ayway to get the upgrade to carry 40 Deku Nuts that I've read 
>about
>online? Supposedly, the Mask of Truth makes them give them to me, but 
>I've
>also heard that once you become older Link, you can;t get the upgrade. 
>Can
>anyone help me with these things? I'll give ya a cookie if ya can.
>
>~Matt
>
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 09 Jan 1999 22:22:07 -0500

Also, besides using the rolling attack, you can hookshot to a lantern post
in the last room with the ramp.  It will help  give you a few more seconds.
As for the frogs, here is the button combo:
A,CL,CR,CD,CL,CR,CD,A,CD,A,CD,CR,CL,A
-----Original Message-----


>Ok, Dampe's heart: keep on using the roll attack but by all means, don't
>hit the fire balls; if it means to miss rolling in a certain spot don't
>roll... believe me, you'll get the path down after a few times!  The
>little tree dudes in the lost woods won't respond to you when you where
>the mask of truth, and I don't know what mask to use for them, so you're
>on you're own there unless someone else can help...  oh yeah, the frogs,
>it's pretty simple,  each frog represents one of the buttons on the
>controller(c buttons and a), If I can remember right, this is how they
>work:
>Middle frog = Down C
>Top Left frog =Left C
>Top Right frog =Up C
>Down Left frog ="A"
>Down Right frog =Right C
> but if you make a mistake they'll razz you and jump into the water, but
>then you can just start over, memorize the order(write it down if you
>want), and get the heart... But remember, you have to hit the combo
>really fast so know the buttons...
>
>
>On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:59:46 EST Bastion007@aol.com writes:
>>After much toil, trouble, cursing, and bathroom breaks, I got all 100
>>of those
>>damn Skulltulas. And a whopping Huge Rupee. Not exactly worth it, but
>>hey, the
>>ending was. Anyhoo, I need some help. I need 2 more pieces of heart to
>>have
>>all 20. I need to beat Dampe in less than a minute. Any tips? And I
>>have to
>>make those frogs eat all the butterflies. What buttons do I press?
>>Finally, is
>>there ayway to get the upgrade to carry 40 Deku Nuts that I've read
>>about
>>online? Supposedly, the Mask of Truth makes them give them to me, but
>>I've
>>also heard that once you become older Link, you can;t get the upgrade.
>>Can
>>anyone help me with these things? I'll give ya a cookie if ya can.
>>
>>~Matt
>>
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From: Jim Wild <jwild@oneimage.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] cow
Date: 09 Jan 1999 21:40:51 -0700

yea, i do from setting that record in the horse race.   anyone know what
the significance of the cows is?

At 10:32 AM 1/7/99 GMT-4, you wrote:
>Does anyone has a cow in his Kokiri house, in Kokiri Forest???
>
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From: Jim Wild <jwild@oneimage.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] cow
Date: 09 Jan 1999 21:42:10 -0700

ahhh....  hehe...   what a great game.

At 05:13 PM 1/7/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/7/99 6:32:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA
>writes:
>
><< Does anyone has a cow in his Kokiri house, in Kokiri Forest???
> 
>  >>
>
>	I do.  You have a cow in your house because you had a good time making a lap
>around the track at Lon Lon Ranch.  Play Epona's song for it (or any cow) and
>it will fill an empty bottle with milk.
>
>--David
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 09 Jan 1999 23:42:39 EST

In a message dated 1/9/99 5:52:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

<<  just beat Zelda and the end was awesome... heck, the game is
 awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right? 
  
    I've got every item except the, err, ice arrow(??) and a bottle...  I
 know how to get the bottle(dang Poes), but I don't know where the arrow
 is.  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
 
 							-Peter >>

	The Ice Arrow is in the Gerudo Fortress.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] cow
Date: 09 Jan 1999 23:45:32 EST

In a message dated 1/9/99 8:41:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, jwild@oneimage.com
writes:

<< yea, i do from setting that record in the horse race.   anyone know what
 the significance of the cows is?
  >>

	Play Epona's Song for the cow and she/he will fill an empty bottle with milk!
=)

--David

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:01:55 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Corey Jaeckel wrote:

> Very strange.... In my expierience --It has always been on top of the
> log in the middle of lake.--- It has never been anywhere else ..And is
> always there everytime I want it.--- It really IS a LOT easier to find
> and catch the bigger fish with the sinking lure.  Maybe it's there
> because I got The GOLD EDITION :)     -That should start a really long
> thread.

Same here.  If I want it, I just walk on top of the log and find it.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Sales and Battle Tanx
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:04:44 -0600 (CST)


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 zimmfam@redrose.net wrote:

>      That's pretty cool about Zelda. And I guess a pretty big accomplishement, but like
> someone wrote on IGN64 Zelda does cost about 12 times as much as a movie ticket
> does. So... It's not too hard to get more money from it. 

True....but I would bet millions of more people watch movies than play
games.  Also, being cheaper, movie tickets are more likely to be bought.

Stryder


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:07:16 -0500

since you were typing, and had the option of the backspace, why is 'err' in
there?

At 11:42 PM 1/9/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/9/99 5:52:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
>writes:
>
><<  just beat Zelda and the end was awesome... heck, the game is
> awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right? 
>  
>    I've got every item except the, err, ice arrow(??) and a bottle...  I
> know how to get the bottle(dang Poes), but I don't know where the arrow
> is.  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> 							-Peter >>
>
>	The Ice Arrow is in the Gerudo Fortress.
>
>--David
>
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:09:55 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> For the frogs I just went crazy and mashed buttons until they gave it to
> me... 

Hmmm....that is almost statistically impossible.  I would just recommned
writing the sequence down as you go.  That is likely what 95% of everyone
did (even if they don't admit it) because it is a rather long sequence and
if you take any time all thinking about a button it will be over.  

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:16:23 -0600 (CST)


On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> since you were typing, and had the option of the backspace, why is 'err' in
> there?

You and your 'let's all write grammatically perfect posts' hang-up again.
Usually 'err' would be used to show 'thinking'.  I would assume that he
was just writing as he was thinking.  It just makes the post more like
natural conversation.

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From: Jim Wild <jwild@oneimage.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 09:45:30 -0700

ok ok ok

help me with this. 


it's not like playing any other tune for the froggies?    do you get up on
the stump, whip out the ocarina, then play the notes you said....or do
something different?

when i try to play those notes, it lets me get in 8 of them (just like any
other song), then the frogs quit 'ribbiting'.

thanks

At 12:09 AM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:
>
>> For the frogs I just went crazy and mashed buttons until they gave it to
>> me... 
>
>Hmmm....that is almost statistically impossible.  I would just recommned
>writing the sequence down as you go.  That is likely what 95% of everyone
>did (even if they don't admit it) because it is a rather long sequence and
>if you take any time all thinking about a button it will be over.  
>
>Stryder
>
>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 14:23:55 -0600

well I wrote down what I was supposed to press but it didn't work so I
just mashed buttons and they gave it to me... go figure.

Jim Wild wrote:
> 
> ok ok ok
> 
> help me with this.
> 
> it's not like playing any other tune for the froggies?    do you get up on
> the stump, whip out the ocarina, then play the notes you said....or do
> something different?
> 
> when i try to play those notes, it lets me get in 8 of them (just like any
> other song), then the frogs quit 'ribbiting'.
> 
> thanks
> 
> At 12:09 AM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:
> >
> >> For the frogs I just went crazy and mashed buttons until they gave it to
> >> me...
> >
> >Hmmm....that is almost statistically impossible.  I would just recommned
> >writing the sequence down as you go.  That is likely what 95% of everyone
> >did (even if they don't admit it) because it is a rather long sequence and
> >if you take any time all thinking about a button it will be over.
> >
> >Stryder
> >
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From: "BCKH423" <bckh423@banet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 15:12:07 -0500

First, you play the Song of Storms to get a heart piece.  Then you play 5 of
the songs except for the warping ones.  These should make the frogs bigger.
If not, just play all of your songs unitl they are.  Then hit the button
combo to catch the butterflies.
-----Original Message-----


>ok ok ok
>
>help me with this.
>
>
>it's not like playing any other tune for the froggies?    do you get up on
>the stump, whip out the ocarina, then play the notes you said....or do
>something different?
>
>when i try to play those notes, it lets me get in 8 of them (just like any
>other song), then the frogs quit 'ribbiting'.
>
>thanks
>
>At 12:09 AM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:
>>
>>> For the frogs I just went crazy and mashed buttons until they gave it to
>>> me...
>>
>>Hmmm....that is almost statistically impossible.  I would just recommned
>>writing the sequence down as you go.  That is likely what 95% of everyone
>>did (even if they don't admit it) because it is a rather long sequence and
>>if you take any time all thinking about a button it will be over.
>>
>>Stryder
>>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64]  Rogue Squadron
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:34:47 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 12:03:11 EST, you write:

> Well, in those missions your objective is to accompany the supply train (or
>  shuttle, or ground troops, or whatever), so you really shouldn't be flying
>  too far away to kill fighters. You have to prioritize which ones are
>  important to kill and which are not. For instance, always kill TIE Bombers
>  when you see them, because they do massive damage against ground.
>  Interceptors or Fighters are not as important, since they do little to no
>  damage vs ground.
>  

I was refering to the Jade Moon level. ah. who cares..

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64]  Versus games and such.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:40:02 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 12:03:19 EST, Eddy Wu wrote:

>  And look at the quality of the Vs.
>  games on the PSX as compared to Saturn. Game companies have to try extra
>  hard to make good 2D games in the 3D systems, and I don't think that many
of
>  them will have enough motivation to overcome that difficulty in addition to
>  the constraints of the cart format.

Last time I checked the Saturn is a 2-D & a 3-D system.

There's that limited cart format thing again. Rare had no problem with KI
Gold. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:44:18 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 17:32:37 EST, you write:

> Very strange.... In my expierience --It has always been on top of the
>  log in the middle of lake.--- It has never been anywhere else ..And is
>  always there everytime I want it.--- It really IS a LOT easier to find
>  and catch the bigger fish with the sinking lure.  Maybe it's there
>  because I got The GOLD EDITION :)     -That should start a really long
>  thread.
>  
>  
>  Corey.

I have the Gold cart and I have never found the sinking lure. What do you guys
mean by looking around for it? Does that translate into "walk aimlessly until
that stupid fairy says something"?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:48:12 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 20:52:23 EST, you write:

>  I just beat Zelda and the end was awesome... heck, the game is
>  awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right? 
>   
>     I've got every item except the, err, ice arrow(??) and a bottle...  I
>  know how to get the bottle(dang Poes), but I don't know where the arrow
>  is.  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
>  
>  							-Peter

The ending is awesome. The whole Return of the Jedi feel to it.. The Ice Arrow
is in the Guerdo Tarining Grounds inside the Guerdo fortress behind the metal
grate. It costs 10 rupies to get in.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda help.
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:51:41 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 21:00:52 EST, you write:

>  I need to beat Dampe in less than a minute. Any tips?
> ~Matt

I recall my friend telling me he used the longshot in the last room to beat
him.. But I ahven't tried it. I still need 1 more heart container.. But since
I beat every other Zelda (Zelda 1, Zelda 3, Zelda 4) missing one heart
container so why upset the balance, eh?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] cow
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:54:56 EST

In a message dated 99-01-09 23:41:15 EST, Jim Wild wrote:

> yea, i do from setting that record in the horse race.   anyone know what
>  the significance of the cows is?
>  

So Link can have Lon Lon Milk on his cheerios every morning without having to
go to Karkariko Village or Lon Lon Ranch to get it.

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: (N64) Zelda lunker fishing
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:55:59 EST

In a message dated 1/10/99 1:45:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< I have the Gold cart and I have never found the sinking lure. What do you
guys
 mean by looking around for it? Does that translate into "walk aimlessly until
 that stupid fairy says something"?
 
 Trey >>

	I haven't found it either, but "walk aimlessly until you find it."

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Great Ending!!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:57:35 EST

In a message dated 99-01-10 01:08:19 EST, tmcshea writes:

> since you were typing, and had the option of the backspace, why is 'err' in
>  there?
 Maybe he was dictating (sp?). 

Trey

"where? behind the rabbit?"

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] Zelda sequel
Date: 10 Jan 1999 19:30:03 +30000


A sequel to any game in this world is possible.  Even if nintendo dies, 
some other company could buy nintendo and make a zelda sequel.  
A zelda sequel might be 2, 5, 20 years down the road.  by then, I don't
even know if i'm that interested in videogames that much.

Didn't nintendo once said there'll be 2 Zelda....  One as a cartridge
and then 1 year later, a Zelda DD version comes out.
So maybe a Zelda sequel isn't that far off after all.

-Vi

> awesome...  And I can't wait for a sequel. There is gonna be one, right? 



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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda sequel
Date: 10 Jan 1999 19:34:37 EST

Earlier this week, I reported on Nintendojo (www.nintendojo.com) that a Zelda
continuation is in the works. I heard this through a source, and that Miyamoto
and his team are working on the game. The 64DD version has been scrapped, I
think. If the sequel rumor is true, it's pretty exciting...I sure hope it's
not too far off!  ---Brian 

<< 
 A sequel to any game in this world is possible.  Even if nintendo dies, 
 some other company could buy nintendo and make a zelda sequel.  
 A zelda sequel might be 2, 5, 20 years down the road.  by then, I don't
 even know if i'm that interested in videogames that much.
 
 Didn't nintendo once said there'll be 2 Zelda....  One as a cartridge
 and then 1 year later, a Zelda DD version comes out.
 So maybe a Zelda sequel isn't that far off after all.
 
 -Vi >>

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 05:49 EST

Comrades,

Whats is the last symbol in your inventory on Turok2?
It looks like the black/yellow radioactive sign and its
the last symbol for all the levels? I got it for the second
level which I just completed but somehow missed it on the
first.

Also, I know it opens a door in the courtyard on the first
level when you shoot the 3 seagulls. Is there anyother place
where shooting the seagulls gives you a bonus/access?

thanks!

Kevin

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 07:49:32 -0600

Kevin Mapp wrote:
> 
> Comrades,
> 
> Whats is the last symbol in your inventory on Turok2?
> It looks like the black/yellow radioactive sign and its
> the last symbol for all the levels? I got it for the second
> level which I just completed but somehow missed it on the
> first.

Its the nuke parts you have got.

> Also, I know it opens a door in the courtyard on the first
> level when you shoot the 3 seagulls. Is there anyother place
> where shooting the seagulls gives you a bonus/access?

No

> thanks!
> 
> Kevin
> 
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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: Re: [N64] more zelda faqs
Date: 11 Jan 1999 09:53:39 GMT-4

Well i go to university and i have a 2 paragraph term paper!!!
About n64...   classic games... i would like to see some legend of 
zelda remix, zelda 2...  you know like super mario all stars, but for 
zelda and on the n64?
> > 3 page term paper? What college do you go to, and can I join? =) I'm only in
> > high-school and our term papers are like 16-pages.
> 
> Well as you can tell from my email address bu.edu, I go to Boston University.
> Well those 16 page papers, u only need to do 1 once a year.
> I have to write a 3 page paper every 2 weeks.  Lucky no more english for me.
> 
> Funny how many faqs/guides for Zelda say that theirs is the very best.  
> I just go to www.gamefaqs.com, they got like 10 different zelda faqs.
> 
> -Vi
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 08:53:08 EST

This question concerns the ending of the game. If you haven't gotten that far
do yourself a favor and delete this post. :)

SPOILER SPACE








.














.

















.













.

















.

At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen freezes
just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the courtyard of Hyrule
Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off the system. Earlier this morning
though I left the machine on. After about two minutes, to my surprise, my
Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.
then in two minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon singing,
Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that sounded like
a MIDI xylophone or something like that.

Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it just
something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super Mario Bros. theme
at the end of Super Mario RPG?

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 13:36:36 EST

In a message dated 1/11/99 5:54:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen freezes
 just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the courtyard of
Hyrule
 Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off the system. Earlier this morning
 though I left the machine on. After about two minutes, to my surprise, my
 Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.
 then in two minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon singing,
 Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that sounded like
 a MIDI xylophone or something like that.
 
 Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it just
 something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super Mario Bros. theme
 at the end of Super Mario RPG?
 
 Trey
  >>


	I never bothered to leave my N64 on for that long, so I've never heard that
music, but I suppose it's the same on every game, since they are all
identical.

--David

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 11 Jan 1999 12:44:55 PST

It sounds like you're talking about the Jade Moon mission.  Have you 
tried the radar cheat ?  I think you put in "RADAR" as a passcode, and 
you get a different type of radar.  In fact, Kevin posted some SW:RS 
passcodes during the holiday season...

elliot

>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 01:43:55 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64]  Rogue Squadron
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 99-01-08 16:03:28 EST, you write:
>
>> Has anyone played SCARS?  is it like mariokart or even better?
>>  how about Rogue S, reviews?
>>  
>>  
>>  -Vi
>
>Never played SCARS, but I have Rogue Squadron and truth be told, it's 
not all
>that great. Read Chris van der Stock's review at Nintendojo, it 
reflects my
>views of the game completely. You can be off somewhere busting up Probe 
Droids
>or duking it out with Tie Interceptors and some guy will come across 
the comm
>shouting, "Rogue Squadron!? Where's my cover?!". All I can say to that 
is,
>"good question, where are you? My radar is just about useless, I have 
no idea
>where you are. There's like 5 other ships in the Squadron and they're 
not near
>me, so where are they?" Killer graphics (with the Expansion Pak) when 
no
>hidden by fog, killer music especially with a surround sound stereo. 
The
>control is dead on for all the ships & vehicles. If it weren't for the 
fun hit
>& run levels I would have gotten rid of this game long ago. One thing 
that
>really bothers me is when your miss an objective the level is over, no 
if's
>and's or but's. The voice is good, but don't be fooled by IGN64, Luke 
does not
>sound like Mark Hammil (sp?), Han Solo does not sound like Harrison 
Ford.
>Wedge sounds almost like whoever really played him. Chewbacca &  RD-D2 
do
>sound likethemselves though. (Gee, I wonder why?)
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 15:25:42 -0800

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  Comrades,

  Whats is the last symbol in your inventory on Turok2?
  It looks like the black/yellow radioactive sign and its
  the last symbol for all the levels? I got it for the second
  level which I just completed but somehow missed it on the
  first.

  Also, I know it opens a door in the courtyard on the first
  level when you shoot the 3 seagulls. Is there anyother place
  where shooting the seagulls gives you a bonus/access?

  thanks!

  Kevin

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 18:26:52 -0500

Yes, I noticed that the first time I beat the game (I've developed tha habit
of leaving games on after the ending ends just in case there is something
special. I think it plays the Scarecrow Song using random MIDI instuments.
Nothing special, just a little extra.


>In a message dated 1/11/99 5:54:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
TreyTable@aol.com
>writes:
>
><< At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen
freezes
> just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the courtyard of
>Hyrule
> Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off the system. Earlier this
morning
> though I left the machine on. After about two minutes, to my surprise, my
> Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.
> then in two minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon
singing,
> Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that sounded
like
> a MIDI xylophone or something like that.
>
> Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it just
> something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super Mario Bros.
theme
> at the end of Super Mario RPG?
>
> Trey
>  >>
>
>
> I never bothered to leave my N64 on for that long, so I've never heard
that
>music, but I suppose it's the same on every game, since they are all
>identical.
>
>--David
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 11 Jan 1999 18:29:29 -0500


Actually, what the RADAR cheat does is make the red dots darker if they are
higher than you, and dimmer if they are lower than you, like a real radar.
Not really that useful, unless you have good eyes and are used to stuff like
that.

On Jade Moon, I seem to recall that after you destroy the shield generator
he tells you specifically to go back to the ground forces and protect them?
And that the yellow radar wedge appears directing you back there? And that
if you leave the area the yellow wedge tells you to go back? How much
clearer can they make it?

>It sounds like you're talking about the Jade Moon mission.  Have you
>tried the radar cheat ?  I think you put in "RADAR" as a passcode, and
>you get a different type of radar.  In fact, Kevin posted some SW:RS
>passcodes during the holiday season...
>
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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 19:16 EST

> I was just wondering what is inside the door when
>you shoot down the seaguls?
>Sean

There is a picture of naked Mario standing on the
inaccessible dock of level 1 GE007 and if you jump
through it a la SM64 you will have access to the
yellow ultra health and 10 point red life meter
thingys that you see on that roof in the courtyard
and had probably tried to jump from the other roof to
the flower pot to get to.

And it is at this point that I will accept the award for
the lists longest run-on sentence.

Thank you,

Kevin

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 16:31:01 PST

> At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen
> freezes just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the 
> courtyard of Hyrule Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off 
> the system. Earlier this morning though I left the machine on. 
> After about two minutes, to my surprise, my Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, 
> CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.  then in two 
> minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon singing,
> Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that 
> sounded like a MIDI xylophone or something like that.
>
> Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it > 
just something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super 
> Mario Bros. theme at the end of Super Mario RPG?
>
> Trey

I don't remember SMRPG's ending "hidden tune."  However, the first time 
I heard Zelda's end tune, it reminded me of the "hidden tune" in the 
original Star Fox (you have to leave it on much longer than Zelda, 
though), and the advice Cranky Kong gives you if you leave DKC1 on too 
long after the credits. :)

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 19:17:40 -0600

Uh..... I think its golden health but I'm not sure.

> Sean McWherter wrote:
> 
> I was just wondering what is inside the door when you shoot down the
> seaguls?
> -Sean
> 
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Kevin Mapp
>      To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>      Cc: kmapp@csc.com
>      Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 2:49 AM
>      Subject: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory
>      /shooting the seagulls
> 
>      Comrades,
> 
>      Whats is the last symbol in your inventory on Turok2?
>      It looks like the black/yellow radioactive sign and its
>      the last symbol for all the levels? I got it for the second
>      level which I just completed but somehow missed it on the
>      first.
> 
>      Also, I know it opens a door in the courtyard on the first
>      level when you shoot the 3 seagulls. Is there anyother place
>      where shooting the seagulls gives you a bonus/access?
> 
>      thanks!
> 
>      Kevin
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the seagulls
Date: 11 Jan 1999 19:20:16 -0600

What the heck are you talking about, I didn't understand one word you
just said...is the picture in 007 or is it in mario?  Or is it in 007
where you go through a picture like Mario?

> There is a picture of naked Mario standing on the
> inaccessible dock of level 1 GE007 and if you jump
> through it a la SM64 you will have access to the
> yellow ultra health and 10 point red life meter
> thingys that you see on that roof in the courtyard
> and had probably tried to jump from the other roof to
> the flower pot to get to.
> 
> And it is at this point that I will accept the award for
> the lists longest run-on sentence.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kevin
> 
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - last symbol on the inventory /shooting the
Date: 11 Jan 1999 19:20:06 -0500

>What the heck are you talking about, I didn't understand one word you
>just said...is the picture in 007 or is it in mario?  Or is it in 007
>where you go through a picture like Mario?

Um, he was joking. You just get ultra health and 10 point life things.

>> There is a picture of naked Mario standing on the
>> inaccessible dock of level 1 GE007 and if you jump
>> through it a la SM64 you will have access to the
>> yellow ultra health and 10 point red life meter
>> thingys that you see on that roof in the courtyard
>> and had probably tried to jump from the other roof to
>> the flower pot to get to.
>> 
>> And it is at this point that I will accept the award for
>> the lists longest run-on sentence.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 12:53:43 +1100

At 08:53 11-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>This question concerns the ending of the game. If you haven't gotten that far
>do yourself a favor and delete this post. :)
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>At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen freezes
>just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the courtyard of Hyrule
>Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off the system. Earlier this morning
>though I left the machine on. After about two minutes, to my surprise, my
>Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.
>then in two minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon singing,
>Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that sounded like
>a MIDI xylophone or something like that.
>
>Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it just
>something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super Mario Bros. theme
>at the end of Super Mario RPG?
>
>Trey
>

Yeah it happend to me. It's actually the song you play to Pierre as a child,
not the scarecrow's song. It's just a little easter egg. I believe the songs
play after one minute intervals, not two minutes, but who's counting? :)


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 20:22:49 -0500

At 12:53 PM 1/12/99 +1100, you wrote:
>At 08:53 11-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>>This question concerns the ending of the game. If you haven't gotten that
far
>>do yourself a favor and delete this post. :)
>>
>>SPOILER SPACE
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>>At the very end of The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time the screen freezes
>>just as young Zelda notices young Link (minus Navi) in the courtyard of
Hyrule
>>Castle. The first time I saw this I shut off the system. Earlier this
morning
>>though I left the machine on. After about two minutes, to my surprise, my
>>Scarecrow Song (CU, CU, CD, CD, CL, CR, CL, CR) was played by the Ocarina.
>>then in two minute intervals my Scarecrow Song was played by Malon singing,
>>Impa whistleing, a grand piano sound, and finally something that sounded
like
>>a MIDI xylophone or something like that.
>>
>>Has this happened to anybody else? Does it mean anything? Or is it just
>>something Nintendo put in for fun like the steel drum Super Mario Bros.
theme
>>at the end of Super Mario RPG?
>>
>>Trey
>>
>
>Yeah it happend to me. It's actually the song you play to Pierre as a child,
>not the scarecrow's song. It's just a little easter egg. I believe the songs
>play after one minute intervals, not two minutes, but who's counting? :)

The song you play to Pierre as a child and the Scarecrow Song are one in
the same.


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 13:05:26 +1100

At 20:22 11-01-99 -0500, you wrote:

SPOILER>>
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>The song you play to Pierre as a child and the Scarecrow Song are one in
>the same.
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>

No. The song you play to the other scarecrow... can't remember his name -
the one closest to lake - is the scarecrows song. 

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 20:33:36 -0500

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>No. The song you play to the other scarecrow... can't remember his name -
>the one closest to lake - is the scarecrows song. 

No, you play the song to Pierre as a child then again as an adult and it's
the Scarecrow Song. I only had to play one song to the scarecrows.


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 13:24:44 +1100

At 20:33 11-01-99 -0500, you wrote:
>>SPOILER>>
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>>>The song you play to Pierre as a child and the Scarecrow Song are one in
>>>the same.
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>>No. The song you play to the other scarecrow... can't remember his name -
>>the one closest to lake - is the scarecrows song. 
>
>No, you play the song to Pierre as a child then again as an adult and it's
>the Scarecrow Song. I only had to play one song to the scarecrows.
>
As a child there are two scarecrows. If you play a song to the one closest
to the lake (max 8 notes), he will memorize it. If you come back as an
adult, and play that same song, you will learn the scarecrow's song.

As a child you can also play music to Pierre - the other scarecrow. This
song can be longer than eight notes, and you can use sharps and flats, as
well the control stick. This is the song that will play after the ending.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:02:49 -0600 (CST)

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Alex wrote:

> As a child there are two scarecrows. If you play a song to the one closest
> to the lake (max 8 notes), he will memorize it. If you come back as an
> adult, and play that same song, you will learn the scarecrow's song.
> 
> As a child you can also play music to Pierre - the other scarecrow. This
> song can be longer than eight notes, and you can use sharps and flats, as
> well the control stick. This is the song that will play after the ending.

Uhhh, when I finished Zelda and left it one for a few minutes one day it
played the Scarecrow song.

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ending question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 17:15:19 +1100

At 23:02 11-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Alex wrote:
>
>> As a child there are two scarecrows. If you play a song to the one closest
>> to the lake (max 8 notes), he will memorize it. If you come back as an
>> adult, and play that same song, you will learn the scarecrow's song.
>> 
>> As a child you can also play music to Pierre - the other scarecrow. This
>> song can be longer than eight notes, and you can use sharps and flats, as
>> well the control stick. This is the song that will play after the ending.
>
>Uhhh, when I finished Zelda and left it one for a few minutes one day it
>played the Scarecrow song.
>
>Stryder
>

Well... then you probably played the same song to both scarecrows.

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 12 Jan 1999 09:03:56 PST

So, basically, you're main objective is the TIE bombers or are the 
missle turrets inculded ?

el


>From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
>To: <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:29:29 -0500
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>
>Actually, what the RADAR cheat does is make the red dots darker if they 
are
>higher than you, and dimmer if they are lower than you, like a real 
radar.
>Not really that useful, unless you have good eyes and are used to stuff 
like
>that.
>
>On Jade Moon, I seem to recall that after you destroy the shield 
generator
>he tells you specifically to go back to the ground forces and protect 
them?
>And that the yellow radar wedge appears directing you back there? And 
that
>if you leave the area the yellow wedge tells you to go back? How much
>clearer can they make it?
>
>>It sounds like you're talking about the Jade Moon mission.  Have you
>>tried the radar cheat ?  I think you put in "RADAR" as a passcode, and
>>you get a different type of radar.  In fact, Kevin posted some SW:RS
>>passcodes during the holiday season...
>>
>>elliot
>
>
>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 12 Jan 1999 18:20:20 EST

Can somebody tell me exactly how they got the sinking lure at the fishing
pond? What time of day? Young or Teen Link? Before or after you get the pole?
How fast do you move towards the spot where the lure is? I want to know all
the conditions involved when getting the lure so I don't make a mistake. 

BTW, I have gotten an 18 pounder today as Teen Link. What a fight that was.
The strangest thing is it started raining at the Fishing Pond when I caught
it. Ever happen to anybody?

Trey

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From: "Michael Eaton" <nintendopal@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:52:55 PST

    > >Can somebody tell me exactly how they got the sinking lure at the 
fishing pond? What time of day? 
Night 

Young or Teen Link?
Teen
 
Before or after you get the pole?
After
 
How fast do you move towards the spot where the lure is?
Slow

 I want to know all the conditions involved when getting the lure so I 
don't make a mistake. BTW, I have gotten an 18 pounder today as Teen 
Link.
You get the Gold Scale if you get a 20 pounder.
 
What a fight that was. 
:)

The strangest thing is it started raining at the Fishing Pond when I 
caught it. Ever happen to anybody?
 Trey 

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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 12 Jan 1999 19:03:44 -0500


On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:20:20 EST TreyTable@aol.com writes:
>Can somebody tell me exactly how they got the sinking lure at the 
>fishing
>pond? What time of day? Young or Teen Link? Before or after you get 
>the pole?
>How fast do you move towards the spot where the lure is? I want to 
>know all
>the conditions involved when getting the lure so I don't make a 
>mistake. 
>
>BTW, I have gotten an 18 pounder today as Teen Link. What a fight that 
>was.
>The strangest thing is it started raining at the Fishing Pond when I 
>caught
>it. Ever happen to anybody?
>
>Trey
>
Yeah, I caught a ninteen pounder yesterday and it did start to rain, but
it was before I caught the fish. Cool effects...  The fish gave up a huge
fight, which added to the joy of catching it... :)  Sorry, haven't found
or used the sinking lure, so I'll be interested to see the response.     
         
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Pokemon: Victory Road
Date: 12 Jan 1999 19:25:08 EST

	Okay, so I'm in Victory Road on my way to the Pokemon League.  I've Defeated
every trainer, that I know of, and moved every boulder.  I can't get the block
that is in front of the ladder that is on the Second Floor, all the way at the
end, to disappear.  I see a switch around that area, but no boulder to roll
onto it.  I know this is a little vague, but, PLEASE HELP!  I've been
wandering around here for about 3 hours. Thanks. =)

--David

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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] T2 crahed again / mo' betta gats
Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:37 EST

Comrades,

It happened again! Last nite I was playing T2 for
a little over an hour and it crashed. Luckily, I
was just checking out the 3rd level to see how far
I could get and to see what was gonna be in store for
me when I actually played that level.

Here's my question, when do you actually get a gun
that can kick's @$$? So far I have the pistol/mag,
bow/tec bow, and shoutgun/shredder. I'm not impressed
with the shredder, I have found it to be rather weak
without the exploding shells.

What other weapons can I get the first time through
level3?

thanks,

Kevin

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] T2 crahed again / mo' betta gats
Date: 12 Jan 1999 19:57:58 -0800

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lot of plasma rounds, but I haven't been able to locate the weapon =
itself.  On that not, I got all the way through the level and walked =
through the ending portal.  It told me I needed the last ammo dump =
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  Comrades,

  It happened again! Last nite I was playing T2 for
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  Here's my question, when do you actually get a gun
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  with the shredder, I have found it to be rather weak
  without the exploding shells.

  What other weapons can I get the first time through
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  thanks,

  Kevin

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] OFF TOPIC: AOL 45 minute Timer
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:36:17 EST

	Does anyone that is on AOL know a good program to get rid of that stupid 45
minute timer?  I use Mplayer a lot, and when I'm in the middle of a game of
Mech Commander I sometimes get booted off because I didn't catch that clock.
It gets REALLY annoying.  So, if you know of anything that works...  Thanks.

--David

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2: Level 4 Help [spoilers]
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:47:47 EST

After much fooling around in Level 4, I can't seem to find one last cave key I
need in order to seal the first vent. The keys I've found go as follows:

1. On a raised ledge about the very first gate...first key, can't go on w/o
it.
2. On a large raised stone platform in the waterfall area, near the first
vent.
3. In the underwater maze.
4. The last two found in the area of the third vent, needed for the third
vent.

Can anyone help me out a bit? I've been through this level about 3 times in
it's entirety looking for one blasted cave key. Thanks!

!!

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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 12 Jan 1999 18:43:16 -0600

At 03:52 PM 12/01/99 PST, you wrote:
>    > >Can somebody tell me exactly how they got the sinking lure at the 
>fishing pond? What time of day? 
>Night 
>
>Young or Teen Link?
>Teen
> 
>Before or after you get the pole?
>After
> 
Actually, I got the lure when I didn't have the pole, I was just running
around. I selected "use now" and it just disappeared cause you can't fish
to well with just a lure. I couldn't find it again and now I don't play
Zelda anymore cause now that I beat it (like on december 5) I hate that
game, it is so boring. I can't wait for bust a move 3 to come out. 4 player
mania will be the greatest ever!!!

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:13:17 -0600

You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
tetris instead.

Spencer wrote:
> 
> At 03:52 PM 12/01/99 PST, you wrote:
> >    > >Can somebody tell me exactly how they got the sinking lure at the
> >fishing pond? What time of day?
> >Night
> >
> >Young or Teen Link?
> >Teen
> >
> >Before or after you get the pole?
> >After
> >
> Actually, I got the lure when I didn't have the pole, I was just running
> around. I selected "use now" and it just disappeared cause you can't fish
> to well with just a lure. I couldn't find it again and now I don't play
> Zelda anymore cause now that I beat it (like on december 5) I hate that
> game, it is so boring. I can't wait for bust a move 3 to come out. 4 player
> mania will be the greatest ever!!!
> 
>                 Stone Cold Spencer
> 
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:48:13 -0600

Oh well, you're loss.
But, yeah, I would play tetris over most games.
It's just that Zelda is a game that once you beat it, it isn't fun anymore.
Sorry if I sounded "mean" or something. I just don't like Zelda anymore.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
>boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
>this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
>tetris instead.



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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:25:18 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 3:59:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
writes:


<>

Guess you wasted your money then, huh?  Should've rented it.  Oh well, too bad
on your part. =)

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:27:37 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 4:12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
 boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
 this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
 tetris instead.
  >>


	You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.  That
stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about how
Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.

--David

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:59:00 -0500

I'd have to disagree.. I've gone through Zelda like twice, and I've played
through the ending sequence over 10 times, cause it's just so damn cool.

-----Original Message-----


>Oh well, you're loss.
>But, yeah, I would play tetris over most games.
>It's just that Zelda is a game that once you beat it, it isn't fun anymore.
>Sorry if I sounded "mean" or something. I just don't like Zelda anymore.
>
> Stone Cold Spencer
>
>>You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
>>boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
>>this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
>>tetris instead.
>
>
>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure (Wrestling)
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:57:42 -0500




Oh god, here we go again. Can't anyone just let this rest?

>In a message dated 1/13/99 4:12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
d.fentie@home.com
>writes:
>
><< You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
> boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
> this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
> tetris instead.
>  >>
>
>
> You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.
That
>stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
>more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about
how
>Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
>nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.
>
>--David
>
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From: gameboy@brookings.net
Subject: [N64] Zelda 64 Question
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:03:41 -0600 (CST)

I have a question on Zelda 64. 
When can you go back in time? Sheikah won't let me put the sword back in the
slot. Another thing. I am having a wrestling league at
www.angelfire.com/sd/gameboy5

Josh


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:22:18 -0600 (CST)

On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:

> 	You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.  That
> stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
> more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about how
> Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
> nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.

Hey now...I personally hate wrestling games, but I love the TV programs.
You know what, everybody knows it's fake (so is 99% of all TV plus every
movie at the theaters), that is not the point...the point is
entertainment.  Some people like it, some don't.  But don't knock it based
on the fact that it is fake because you're missing the point.

Stryder


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 Question
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:27:19 -0600

Beat the forest temple my friend...

gameboy@brookings.net wrote:
> 
> I have a question on Zelda 64.
> When can you go back in time? Sheikah won't let me put the sword back in the
> slot. Another thing. I am having a wrestling league at
> www.angelfire.com/sd/gameboy5
> 
> Josh
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:22:28 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 7:23:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

<< Hey now...I personally hate wrestling games, but I love the TV programs.
 You know what, everybody knows it's fake (so is 99% of all TV plus every
 movie at the theaters), that is not the point...the point is
 entertainment.  Some people like it, some don't.  But don't knock it based
 on the fact that it is fake because you're missing the point.
 
 Stryder >>

	I'm not missing the point.  I know it is for entertainment, just like the
Power Rangers, but it doesn't entertain me, so I can knock because I have a
right to my opinion.

--DAvid

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 Question
Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:31:06 -0600 (CST)


Ok, I have completed all the objectives in level 5 and got the eagle
feather but I missed the talisman temple.  Where is it?  This level is so
huge (like they are all) I really do not want to have to wander aimlessly
around it till I find it :)  Can anyone please help?

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:33:30 -0600 (CST)


On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:

> 	I'm not missing the point.  I know it is for entertainment, just like the
> Power Rangers, but it doesn't entertain me, so I can knock because I have a
> right to my opinion.

Whatever.  I did not say you had no right to your opinion, it is just my
opinion that you are basing it on something stupid. Oh well.

Stryder


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 00:03:40 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 8:34:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

<< > 	I'm not missing the point.  I know it is for entertainment, just like
the
 > Power Rangers, but it doesn't entertain me, so I can knock because I have a
 > right to my opinion.
 
 Whatever.  I did not say you had no right to your opinion, it is just my
 opinion that you are basing it on something stupid. Oh well.
 
 Stryder
  >>


	You know what?  I bet if I asked you to eat dog crap, you'd say you didn't
want to because it tasted bad, but I bet you've never actually tasted it.  Is
it a stupid reason to say you don't like something because you inherently know
you don't like it?  No.  And it's not a stupid reason.  Wrestling does not
entertain me, that has to be the #1 best reason that I don't like it.
	And I said that I had a right no my opinion because you are indirectly trying
to force your ideas upon me by calling my reasons for not liking TV wrestling
stupid.
	Now, can we please put this to rest?

--David

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:32:07 -0600 (CST)



> 	You know what?  I bet if I asked you to eat dog crap, you'd say you didn't
> want to because it tasted bad, but I bet you've never actually tasted it.  Is
> it a stupid reason to say you don't like something because you inherently know
> you don't like it?  

Ok...hmmm...that's nice...too bad is had nothing to do with what I said.

>No.  And it's not a stupid reason.  Wrestling does not
> entertain me, that has to be the #1 best reason that I don't like it.

Because is does not entertain you?  Ok, that  is just fine.  But that is
not what you said the first time. 


> 	And I said that I had a right no my opinion because you are indirectly trying
> to force your ideas upon me by calling my reasons for not liking TV wrestling
> stupid.

No, I did NOT say that it was stupid for not liking because you don't
find it entertaining. Don't try and twist things around on me, it won't
work.  I just can't stand when people knock wrestling (as you did) based
on the fact is is fake...especially when you come off sounding like those
of us who do enjoy it don't realize it is fake (which it exctactly they
way you came off sounding).  Do you get it now??? Thank you very much!!

Stryder


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda
Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:15:39 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 7:47:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
writes:

> It's just that Zelda is a game that once you beat it, it isn't fun anymore.
>  
>  		Stone Cold Spencer

Really?  Once I finished it I started a new game the very next day. Although
Zelda is a lot easier when you get the Biggoron's Sword before you beat the
Forest Temple.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 Question
Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:18:05 EST

In a message dated 1/13/99 10:07:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gameboy@brookings.net writes:

> I have a question on Zelda 64. 
>  When can you go back in time? Sheikah won't let me put the sword back in
the
>  slot. Another thing. I am having a wrestling league at
>  www.angelfire.com/bs/gameboy5
>  
>  Josh

After you beat the Forest Temple.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:27:44 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 12:32:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

> > 	You know what?  I bet if I asked BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH .  
> Is
>  > it a stupid reason to say BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH  
> know
>  > you don't like it?  
>  
>  Ok...hmmm...that's nice...too bad is had nothing to do withBLAH BLAH BLAH .
>  
>  >No.  And it's not a stupid reason.  Wrestling does not
>  > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH .
>  
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  
>  
>  > 	And I said that I had a BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
> trying
>  > to force your ideas upon BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
> BLAH 
>  > BLAH .
>  
>  No, I did NOT say that BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
>  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 
> BLAH BLAH BLAH   Do you get it now??? Thank you very much!!
>  
>  Stryder

That's all well and nice. Now could somebody tell me how to get the darn
Sinking Lure? I almost got an answer, but the responder left out the most
important piece of information. WHERE THE FUDGE IS IT?

Trey

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 07:45:20 EST

I agree. Although Power Rangers has better acting and more interesting fights
;-)

~Matt

<<You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.
That stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me
even
more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about how
Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.

--David>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 07:50:19 EST

Okay, this week is finals ... AND SCHOOL WAS CANCELED TODAY! KICK ASS!

Anyhoo, what about the fate of Metroid 64? I doubt Nintendo will make it, so
I'm thinking maybe NOA will hire out a REALLY good development team to make
it. What do you all think?

~Matt

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] The elusive Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 07:56:32 EST

Okay, the total *1* time that I've gotten the sinking lure, it was on the log
in the middle of the pon. If you look at the pond from the counter where you
get the pole, head left, around the pond. Eventually you'll come upon an area
where if you go into the water, there will be a log you can stand on, or if
you continue forward, you'll go into a bunch of cat tails, etc. Go on the log.
The lure should be there. I've tried this, and it worked for me, but I have
yet to try it again. 

~Matt

PS: I got the golden scale when I caught a 19 pound fish, so a 20-pound lunker
isn't necessary. 

PPS: Anyone on the other side of the pond, in you PAL version of Zelda, does
it say anyhting like "You've caught an 8 kg fish!"?

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 07:56:03 -0500

Same here.  In Ohio snow has been so bad that we had all last week cancelled
except for Friday, and this week we only went Monday and Tuesday.  Yesterday and
today were cancelled.

About Metroid, I agree with you.  Nintendo does NOT want to skip on the
opportunity to bring this extremely popular series to N64, so if they don't do
it (which now looks doubtful considering all the other projects they are busy
working on), then they will probably get a company close to Nintendo to make it
for them.

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:

> Okay, this week is finals ... AND SCHOOL WAS CANCELED TODAY! KICK ASS!
>
> Anyhoo, what about the fate of Metroid 64? I doubt Nintendo will make it, so
> I'm thinking maybe NOA will hire out a REALLY good development team to make
> it. What do you all think?
>
> ~Matt
>
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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] The, Sinking, Lure, Is, Here...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 05:45:19 PST

I've found it twice, in different locations.  One is by the rocks in 
next to the stream, and the other place is by the underwater rocks (use 
the metal boots).  Aparently, Matt has also found them by the log.  So 
that makes at least three random locations.  I have a feeling that there 
are four, just because three doesn't seem like a "normal" random number.

BTW, has anybody caught the eel-like fish that swims on the bottom of 
the lake yet?  Navie can't lock onto it, but you can get a gander by 
using the metal boots.

Moblin 64

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] The Sinking Lure Is Here...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 05:45:36 PST

I've found it twice, in different locations.  One is by the rocks in 
next to the stream, and the other place is by the underwater rocks (use 
the metal boots).  Aparently, Matt has also found them by the log.  So 
that makes at least three random locations.  I have a feeling that there 
are four, just because three doesn't seem like a "normal" random number.

BTW, has anybody caught the eel-like fish that swims on the bottom of 
the lake yet?  Navie can't lock onto it, but you can get a gander by 
using the metal boots.

Moblin 64

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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: [N64] Masks
Date: 14 Jan 1999 09:17:41 -0500

 We've been over this subject before, but what can you do with the Zora,
Gerudo, and Goron masks?  Are they put in just for fun, or is there a
point behind them?  

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] The elusive Sinking Lure
Date: 15 Jan 1999 01:00:01 +1100

At 07:56 14-01-99 EST, you wrote:

>PPS: Anyone on the other side of the pond, in you PAL version of Zelda, does
>it say anyhting like "You've caught an 8 kg fish!"?
>

No. It's still in pounds.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 09:54:59 -0600 (CST)


On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> That's all well and nice. Now could somebody tell me how to get the darn
> Sinking Lure? I almost got an answer, but the responder left out the most
> important piece of information. WHERE THE FUDGE IS IT?

I have looked for it 2 or 3 times and every time I found the lure it was
on top of the big log.  I just walked from one end to the other and found
it.  I would help you more, but I loaned out my Zelda game a few weeks
ago.

Stryder


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] poll
Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:03:15 GMT-4

Hi guys, if you have the time, can you go to this adress:
http://members.tripod.com/stephq/n64.html
click on the poll of the week, and vote.
If the results are positive, i will tell nintendo to check it out, 
since they answered me that they are open to customers suggestions, 
so a poll would be nice.
I don't like to do publicity for my site, but at this time, there is 
only a poll, nothing to sell!  :~)
[:::]  [:::] pop tarts for all!

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 13:30:11 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 4:58:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, wesday@saa.net
writes:

<< Same here.  In Ohio snow has been so bad that we had all last week
cancelled
 except for Friday, and this week we only went Monday and Tuesday.  Yesterday
and
 today were cancelled.
  >>

	I envy you.  Of course I'm in the second semester of my Senior year, and I
only have 2 1 1/2 hour classes, and then I have them both on the same day, so
I only have to go to school every other day now, but I would still like to see
a snow bank that is halfway up my window. =)

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Masks
Date: 14 Jan 1999 13:30:50 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 6:15:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

<< 
  We've been over this subject before, but what can you do with the Zora,
 Gerudo, and Goron masks?  Are they put in just for fun, or is there a
 point behind them?  
  >>

	They are just for fun.

--David

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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:31:13 -0600

Thank you. I think you people should watch "THe unreal history of pro
wrestling" a show that A&E did, it's really good, even for people who don't
like pro wrestling.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>Hey now...I personally hate wrestling games, but I love the TV programs.
>You know what, everybody knows it's fake (so is 99% of all TV plus every
>movie at the theaters), that is not the point...the point is
>entertainment.  Some people like it, some don't.  But don't knock it based
>on the fact that it is fake because you're missing the point.
>
>Stryder
>
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:28:24 -0600

You know what? You're ignorant. Pro wrestling isn't all about the
wrestling, it's about entertainment. I bet there is someone on here who
watches soap operas or sitcoms. Do you watch it and say, "oh that's fake",
no, you don't.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>	You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.
That
>stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
>more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about how
>Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
>nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.
>
>--David
>
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure (Wrestling)
Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:29:40 -0600

>Oh god, here we go again. Can't anyone just let this rest?
My reply to that is this: Isn't this a discussion list? Why not let it go
on, even if it isn't totally about N64.

		Stone Cold Spencer


>>In a message dated 1/13/99 4:12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>d.fentie@home.com
>>writes:
>>
>><< You know what I hate?  All those wrestling games.  I think they are so
>> boring.  My friend and I played it once and then we said 'what is this,
>> this is crap' and quit it right away because it was boring.  We played
>> tetris instead.
>>  >>
>>
>>
>> You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.
>That
>>stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
>>more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about
>how
>>Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
>>nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.
>>
>>--David
>>
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:33:15 -0600

That's totally different. "Crap" as you refer to it is poisonous if eaten.
It is the body's waste, I wouldn't eat it cause I don't eat garbage.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>	You know what?  I bet if I asked you to eat dog crap, you'd say you didn't
>want to because it tasted bad, but I bet you've never actually tasted it.  Is
>it a stupid reason to say you don't like something because you inherently
know
>you don't like it?  No.  And it's not a stupid reason.  Wrestling does not
>entertain me, that has to be the #1 best reason that I don't like it.
>	And I said that I had a right no my opinion because you are indirectly
trying
>to force your ideas upon me by calling my reasons for not liking TV wrestling
>stupid.
>	Now, can we please put this to rest?
>
>--David
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] OFF TOPIC: Entertainment Value
Date: 14 Jan 1999 16:42:43 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 1:38:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
writes:

<< You know what? You're ignorant. Pro wrestling isn't all about the
 wrestling, it's about entertainment. I bet there is someone on here who
 watches soap operas or sitcoms. Do you watch it and say, "oh that's fake",
 no, you don't.
 
 		Stone Cold Spencer >>

	I hate soap operas.  I watch sitcoms because they entertain me, but even some
of them I don't watch.

--David

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda : Sinking Lure
Date: 14 Jan 1999 16:50:45 -0500

Yea, but sitcoms although fake, have plots.  Kinda like watching a book being
played out.  Just a little different then a bunch of guys running around in their
underwear fake punching each other.  But, that is my point of view of the TV
wrestling.

Wrestling video games on the other hand I enjoy, since they are an evolvement of
traditional fighting games.

Spencer wrote:

> You know what? You're ignorant. Pro wrestling isn't all about the
> wrestling, it's about entertainment. I bet there is someone on here who
> watches soap operas or sitcoms. Do you watch it and say, "oh that's fake",
> no, you don't.
>
>                 Stone Cold Spencer
>
> >       You know what?  I agree.  The games are ALMOST as bad as the T.V. CRAP.
> That
> >stuff is so obviously fake, I can't stand to watch it.  What makes me even
> >more sick is when I heard kids at school praising it and ranting on about how
> >Big Gay Guy butt ripped Bulldog the Pussy Cat (exageration).  It is as bad,
> >nay!, worse than the Power Rangers.
> >
> >--David
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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] Entertainment Value  *** ALL READ ***
Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:53:56 -0700

Enough!  Drop the subject.

Greg

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/14/99 1:38:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
> writes:
> 
> << You know what? You're ignorant. Pro wrestling isn't all about the
>  wrestling, it's about entertainment. I bet there is someone on here who
>  watches soap operas or sitcoms. Do you watch it and say, "oh that's fake",
>  no, you don't.
> 
>                 Stone Cold Spencer >>
> 
>         I hate soap operas.  I watch sitcoms because they entertain me, but even some
> of them I don't watch.
> 
> --David
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Hyrule Loach
Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:46:55 EST

Okay, I caught this, er ... eel, today, and it was a whopping 30 pounds! I
used the sinking lure, and told the guy to weigh it. He told me they were a
rare fish, and that he would have to put it back That's fine, but it still
says my record fish is only 20 pounds! Any way getting around this so I can
get the recognition I deserve ;-)

~Matt

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Subject: [N64] IGN64 PRESS PASS
Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:35:37 -0600

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MIYAMOTO TO SPEAK AT GDC
Shigeru Miyamoto scheduled as keynote speaker at this year's Game
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The team leader for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Shigeru Miyamoto,
will be the keynote speaker this March at the San Jose-based Game
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BLADES OF STEEL NHL '99
Konami hits the ice with its first N64 hockey game

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NHL Breakaway -- a game that, all in all, teetered on generic. It wasn't
until EA Sports stepped in with a tight, fast version of NHL 99 that the
hockey bar was raised. Konami hopes to up the ante even further with the
release of its first N64 hockey game, a 64-bit version of the classic
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If you haven't had a chance to check out this video clip, do it now! This
is one of the funniest damn commercials I've every seen. Like I mentioned
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a direct result of self satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become
the best that you are capable of becoming."

2. Who are the two characters that are sitting in for Editor Matt
Casamassina? (Hint: you can find both answers on IGN, but not necessarily
IGN64)

And the answers are:

1. John Wooden

2. Any two in combination: Drinking Bird, Big Yellow Thing (Pikachu),
Pickle Boy

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] Questions...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 20:02:51 PST

Anybody still playing...

F-Xero X ?
Body Harvest ?

If not, why ?

Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game ?  Any opinions ?

And, Can import color gameboys play american games ?
I have my eye on a nice clear one...

elliot

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Questions...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:33:39 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 11:04:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
eljam@hotmail.com writes:

> Anybody still playing...
>  
>  F-Xero X ?
>  Body Harvest ?
>  
>  If not, why?



I still play F-Zero X from time to time for X-Cup Multiplayer.
  
>  Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game?  Any opinions ?
>  
>  And, Can import color gameboys play American games ?
>  I have my eye on a nice clear one...
>  
>  Elliot

Yes, Japanese GBCs are no different from the American ones. Same with the Game
Boy Pocket & Game Boy.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:21:46 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 7:51:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> Anyhow, what about the fate of Metroid 64? I doubt Nintendo will make it, so
>  I'm thinking maybe NOA will hire out a REALLY good development team to make
>  it. What do you all think?
>  
>  ~Matt

Hate to break it it you, but NOA has nothing to do with making games. That's
all up to NCL. NOA can't scratch their own arses without getting approval from
NCL. 

Trey

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Subject: [N64] Damn Gerudo's!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:09:19 -0600

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 07:57:55 EST

I knew that. But other companies, like Konami of America, for instance, have
gotten permission from their parent companies to hire out other developers to
make games for them. In the case of KOA, though, the games sucked. Maybe
Nintendo could do something with the property and anohter developer. It's
obviously valuable to them, since they put Samus in Smash Brothers.

~Matt

<<Hate to break it it you, but NOA has nothing to do with making games. That's
all up to NCL. NOA can't scratch their own arses without getting approval from
NCL. 

Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Guide 64.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:00:47 EST

Is Guide 64 dead? It hasn't been updated for a while, and the border says,
"Guide 64: Power Off." It would suck to see this page go down.

~Matt

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Guide 64.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:42:59 +1100

At 08:00 15-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>Is Guide 64 dead? It hasn't been updated for a while, and the border says,
>"Guide 64: Power Off." It would suck to see this page go down.
>
>~Matt

Er yes... it was shut down some time ago. 

Read this:

http://members.aol.com/capscott/rambles/dec98/dec7.htm

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:36:00 -0500


     I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by 
that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it 
back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to 
buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????

Russ

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 05:44:50 PST

That's right, otherwise Metroid 64 would have been confirmed because it 
has a large western ( North American ) following. 

Elliot

>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:21:46 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/14/99 7:51:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>Bastion007@aol.com writes:
>
>> Anyhow, what about the fate of Metroid 64? I doubt Nintendo will make 
it, so
>>  I'm thinking maybe NOA will hire out a REALLY good development team 
to make
>>  it. What do you all think?
>>  
>>  ~Matt
>
>Hate to break it it you, but NOA has nothing to do with making games. 
That's
>all up to NCL. NOA can't scratch their own arses without getting 
approval from
>NCL. 
>
>Trey
>
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Questions...
Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:38:51 -0500


On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:02:51 PST "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
writes:
>Anybody still playing...
>
>F-Xero X ?
>Body Harvest ?
>
>If not, why ?
>
>Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game ?  Any opinions ?

Top Gear Overdrive is a huge improvement over it's successor, but then
again that still doesn't say much.  The steering is really tight,
though... Mirrored tracks suck.  Unless you really liked the first one,
I'd say rent it, cause you'll get sick of it really fast...  
>
>And, Can import color gameboys play american games ?
>I have my eye on a nice clear one...
>
>elliot
>
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Damn Gerudo's!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:47:26 -0500


If you want to get along with the Gerudos, you'll have to get their
membership card, which you obtain by defeating all the guards defending
the cells...  If you've got 3 out of four, the one you've probably missed
is:   In the spot where you call up Pierre to get to the chest with the
heart piece, instead of going across, drop down to a door... Like someone
else said, it looks like you've already been there, but you haven't, then
just kill the guard and keep on going right and you'll get to the cell. 
That's the only room that's semi-difficult to get to. If you've already
got that one, just look around the fortress because the other ones are
easy to find. There ya go....		
						-Peter



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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 07:57:55 EST

I knew that. But other companies, like Konami of America, for instance, have
gotten permission from their parent companies to hire out other developers to
make games for them. In the case of KOA, though, the games sucked. Maybe
Nintendo could do something with the property and anohter developer. It's
obviously valuable to them, since they put Samus in Smash Brothers.

~Matt

<<Hate to break it it you, but NOA has nothing to do with making games. That's
all up to NCL. NOA can't scratch their own arses without getting approval from
NCL. 

Trey>>

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 05:48:52 PST

True, but who has NCL used besides Rare and HAl ?  NCL rarely trusts 
their property, i.e., Mario, Donkey Kong, et al., to outside 
development.

elliot

>From: Bastion007@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:57:55 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>I knew that. But other companies, like Konami of America, for instance, 
have
>gotten permission from their parent companies to hire out other 
developers to
>make games for them. In the case of KOA, though, the games sucked. 
Maybe
>Nintendo could do something with the property and anohter developer. 
It's
>obviously valuable to them, since they put Samus in Smash Brothers.
>
>~Matt
>
><<Hate to break it it you, but NOA has nothing to do with making games. 
That's
>all up to NCL. NOA can't scratch their own arses without getting 
approval from
>NCL. 
>
>Trey>>
>
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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 09:00:40 -0500

 That's a pretty rough situation, eh? Well, you could sit in the temple
and mope about it for the rest of your life, or you could lose all your
dignity and run like hell for the entrance and "risk" dying for once...  
If you do get the out, get the red tunic at the shop in goron city, and
the shield in the Bazaar in Kakariko Village(I think)...

						-Peter

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:36:00 -0500 "Lapenna, Russ"
<Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA> writes:
>
>     I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by 
>that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it 
>back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to 
>buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
>
>Russ
>
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From: Roach41883@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 10:59:05 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:58:59 AM EST, catons@juno.com writes:

<<  That's a pretty rough situation, eh? Well, you could sit in the temple
 and mope about it for the rest of your life, or you could lose all your
 dignity and run like hell for the entrance and "risk" dying for once...  
 If you do get the out, get the red tunic at the shop in goron city, and
 the shield in the Bazaar in Kakariko Village(I think)...
 
 						-Peter
 
 On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:36:00 -0500 "Lapenna, Russ"
 <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA> writes:
 >
 >     I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by 
 >that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it 
 >back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to 
 >buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
 >
 >Russ
 >
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Or you could play the Minuet of the Forest or Prelude of Light and warp out I
think

Roach

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:04:00 -0500




>In a message dated 1/15/99 8:58:59 AM EST, catons@juno.com writes:

<<  That's a pretty rough situation, eh? Well, you could sit in the temple
 >and mope about it for the rest of your life, or you could lose all your 
 >dignity and run like hell for the entrance and "risk" dying for once... 
 >If you do get the out, get the red tunic at the shop in goron city, and 
 >the shield in the Bazaar in Kakariko Village(I think)...

                               >-Peter

     I tried that Peter, and didn't have enough time to get out. Trust 
me I've died plenty since this happened. I have to learn not to try to 
slash to death everything I see, especially when it's biger than me.:)

>Or you could play the Minuet of the Forest or Prelude of Light and warp out
I 
>think

>Roach

     I tried the song of time to go back but it didn't work, I don't 
have the Prelude of light yet, but I'll try the minuet of the 
forest, that might work.....thanks.

Russ

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:43:37 EST

Warp, Russ, and but a new one.


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Questions...
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:04:50 -0600

Yes, I play F-Zero X lots... but not Body Harvest cuz I don't own it.

Elliot Jefferson wrote:
> 
> Anybody still playing...
> 
> F-Xero X ?
> Body Harvest ?
> 
> If not, why ?
> 
> Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game ?  Any opinions ?
> 
> And, Can import color gameboys play american games ?
> I have my eye on a nice clear one...
> 
> elliot
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:07:03 -0600

I assume you have turned off the power since then... now you are
screwed.  The only thing you can do is go and buy a new suit and
shield... sorry but thats the only way.

Lapenna, Russ wrote:
> 
>      I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by
> that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it
> back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to
> buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
> 
> Russ
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:08:04 -0600

Why dont you just warp out of the place to the temple of time with you
ocraina?

Peter W Caton wrote:
> 
>  That's a pretty rough situation, eh? Well, you could sit in the temple
> and mope about it for the rest of your life, or you could lose all your
> dignity and run like hell for the entrance and "risk" dying for once...
> If you do get the out, get the red tunic at the shop in goron city, and
> the shield in the Bazaar in Kakariko Village(I think)...
> 
>                                                 -Peter
> 
> On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:36:00 -0500 "Lapenna, Russ"
> <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA> writes:
> >
> >     I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by
> >that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it
> >back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to
> >buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
> >
> >Russ
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:10:08 -0600

Uh.. yeah, but it!  hehe, Anyways I thought I'd give some tips on
beating the like-like (think that eats your items).  I usually hit it
with the hook/long-shot and I will be pulled to it and it will freeze
and stop moving.  Then I hit it once with the bigoron sword and run
away.  I continue to do this until it dies (better than wasting bombs or
arrows or magic...)

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Warp, Russ, and but a new one.
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Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 13:30:15 -0500


On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:08:04 -0600 D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com> writes:
>Why dont you just warp out of the place to the temple of time with you
>ocraina?

Yeah, you can play the Minuet of the Forest if you haven't yet...
>
>Peter W Caton wrote:
>> 
>>  That's a pretty rough situation, eh? Well, you could sit in the 
>temple
>> and mope about it for the rest of your life, or you could lose all 
>your
>> dignity and run like hell for the entrance and "risk" dying for 
>once...
>> If you do get the out, get the red tunic at the shop in goron city, 
>and
>> the shield in the Bazaar in Kakariko Village(I think)...
>> 
>>                                                 -Peter
>> 
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:36:00 -0500 "Lapenna, Russ"
>> <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA> writes:
>> >
>> >     I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple 
>by
>> >that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get 
>it
>> >back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out 
>to
>> >buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
>> >
>> >Russ
>> >
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 14:23:18 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:02:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Roach41883@aol.com writes:

<< Or you could play the Minuet of the Forest or Prelude of Light and warp out
I
 think
 
 Roach
  >>

	Yes, you can use the songs to warp out.  What you may want to do is, if you
have it, use Farore's Wind to set a warp point inside the Fire Temple, that
way when you come back you can go straight back to where you left off.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 14:24:38 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:09:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes:

<< 
      I tried the song of time to go back but it didn't work, I don't 
 have the Prelude of light yet, but I'll try the minuet of the 
 forest, that might work.....thanks.
 
 Russ >>

	Don't you learn the Prelude of Light right after you enter the Temple of Time
as Adult Link?

--David

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From: catons@juno.com (Peter W Caton)
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 14:41:01 -0500


On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:24:38 EST Davidxvx@aol.com writes:
>In a message dated 1/15/99 8:09:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes:
>
><< 
>      I tried the song of time to go back but it didn't work, I don't 
> have the Prelude of light yet, but I'll try the minuet of the 
> forest, that might work.....thanks.
> 
> Russ >>
>
>	Don't you learn the Prelude of Light right after you enter the 
>Temple of Time
>as Adult Link?
>
>--David
  
I think Sheik will teach it to you after you beat the forest temple and
then talk to him. He'll move away from the slot and teach ya it if I
remember right, Russ...

						-Peter


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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Questions...
Date: 15 Jan 1999 16:39:55 -0500



Elliot Jefferson wrote:

> Anybody still playing...
>
> F-Xero X ?
> Body Harvest ?

No, not at the moment.

>
>
> If not, why ?
>

Because I am playing Turok 2, South Park, BattleTanx, and Zelda.

> Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game ?  Any opinions ?

Yes, and I couldnt really get into it.

>
>
> And, Can import color gameboys play american games ?
> I have my eye on a nice clear one...

Yes they can.

>
>
> elliot
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From: Garrett Winters <gargoyle@iol.ie>
Subject: Re: [N64] Questions...
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:45:12 +0000

Elliot asks>
Anybody still playing...
>
>F-Xero X ?
yes just getting into it, I've beaten the three cups on novice and just 
finished jack cup on standard ( but only got a third place, will that 
screw up what gets opened later on?) once you get the swing of it it is 
great fun
>Body Harvest ?
;have it but not started it yet.
>
>If not, why ?
>
>Has anybody played the new Top Gear racing game ?  Any opinions ?
yes, been there done that, got the taco car. thoroughly enjoyable but for 
multiplayer it requires two equal competitors for decent runs. some of 
the cheat lanes are easily found, others a bit more tricky.
Garrett Winters

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:03:06 EST

Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.

The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use this
dose so AFTER they beat the game.

Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.

How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.

Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure debuted at
number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.

Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she blamed
video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that videogames,
not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off someone's
head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?

Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.

~Matt

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:09:52 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 Bastion007@aol.com wrote:

> Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
> 
> The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use this
> dose so AFTER they beat the game.

Since he did not post the cheat itself....I will.  It is below.


















BEWAREOBLIVIONISATHAND


Stryder


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:14:04 EST

D'oh! The whole reason I didn't post it was so that people woludn't be
tempted! YOU SCREWED IT ALL UP! AAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

~Matt

<<Since he did not post the cheat itself....I will.  It is below.

B*W*R*O*L*V*O*I*A*H*N*


Stryder>>

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:43:47 -0500



>Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
>
>The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use
this
>dose so AFTER they beat the game.


Hmm.. I would, but like I said previously, I refuse to play Turok II, so I
use the master cheat for 1) all the weapons, since I have not beat level 4
and am not planning to, and 2) for multiplayer boss battles, which are kind
of close to co-op

>Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.


I'd love a Pokemon RPG for the N64, and supposedly one is in the works.
Imagine the Gameboy game in 3D!

>How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.


I do.. looks pretty similar to Banjo-Kazooiem but I'm sure Rare will pull
out some extra stuff (co-op anyone?)

>Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure debuted
at
>number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.


Well, it hasn't launched in the US yet, and as you can see from the N64,
sometimes we Americans embrace stuff rejected by Japanese. Also, no RPG's
are out for Dreamcast yet, so it's probably not selling too well.

>Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she
blamed
>video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that
videogames,
>not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off someone's
>head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?


Yes, I believe I mentioned it in that LONG post I made about violence in
videogames.

>Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.
>
>~Matt



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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:52:36 +0000

> From:          Bastion007@aol.com
> Date:          Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:06 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       [N64] Stuff
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
> 
> The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use this
> dose so AFTER they beat the game.
> 
> Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.
> 
 
     Well, I have yet to play the GB game (unfortunately), but that will change soon,
I plan on buying it since everyone says it's so good. So, yeah, I'd love to see some
N64 games of it. I don't know about the microphone Pikachu thing, tho, and the 
safari thing, too, they look pretty weird and not very much fun. 

> How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.
> 
  
    Oh yeah.. I really liked the first two for SNES.  

> Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure debuted at
> number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.
> 

   Well, I already talked about this with you, but for everyone else. In my expert 
opinion (yeah right :)), Sega should've released it the same time as in the US since
they pushed back a lot of the quality games. 

> Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she blamed
> video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that videogames,
> not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off someone's
> head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?
> 
> Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
   
    Thanks, man. I was getting tired of just getting Zelda help and the occasional
wrestling discussion and T2 help e-mails. :) 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:49:30 EST

Turok 2 master cheat: Playing fair this get go around -- on Level 5, and
having a blast. Just picked up the Scorpion Launcher. Two words: Too cool. No
more spoiling for me.

Donkey Kong -- looks promising, just not exciting at this point. Least it's
coming.

Dreamcast -- disappointed. One good game, and, well, it's not that good after
all. Doh. American release, perhaps.

Jamie Lee Curtis isn't that good an actress for starts, and furthermore,
blaming videogames for a certain type of behavior is pish posh. Scapegoats,
and nothing more. It's not like any of these people have played many
videogames, they only see what they choose to. But that's the way it goes.

How about this instead: Thoughts on Castlevania? Looks mediocre to me. But
that's looks -- anyone intent on getting it? 

!!


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Castlevania: What can we expect?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:59:41 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:56:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:

<< 
 How about this instead: Thoughts on Castlevania? Looks mediocre to me. But
 that's looks -- anyone intent on getting it? 
  >>

	Well, I was really looking forward to Castlevania, but now that I've seen
some screen shots and stuff, it's kinda sounding "Blah."  But...who knows?

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Pokemon
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:01:28 EST

	I'm going to post this again since I didn't get a response last time.

	I'm stuck on Victory Road.  I can't get one of the blocks open.  I know where
the switch is, but there is no boulder.  I think I know where the boulder is
(on the third floor right next to a big hole), but I can't find a way to get
to it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--David

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 15 Jan 1999 21:23:45 -0800

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system to buy, lean towards the N64.  And a  finale thought on how =
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in console history, yeah right, go for it.  Personally, I am planning on =
buying it from a friend about a year after he buys it.  I will most =
likely end up putting it in the box in my closet labeled, "Video Game =
Failures", which is mostly occupied my Sega stuff.  Anyone got any =
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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:30:08 EST

The N64 is an odd machine -- criticized for the first two years, and
then...bam. Picked up. Right now, the N64 is probably at it's "peak" with the
release of the three big blockbusters, but I still see a few more years left;
2000 at the earliest. Fact of the matter is, at least here in the States,
we're not ready to let the N64 go yet. There's a lot of good stuff coming, and
it's rather odd when I go to class and hear people set to graduate talking
about the latest games. We're looking at a few more solid years, and thanks to
the DC's late launch and the PSX2's later launch, the N64 will be the only
real next-gen console for a bit longer.

!! 

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:05:56 -0600

Sega has failed me and many of my peers too many times, I never want to
invest in any sort of equipment that has to do with them.  (what was up
with them always putting down Nintendo all the time anyways?)

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
> 
> The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use this
> dose so AFTER they beat the game.
> 
> Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.
> 
> How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.
> 
> Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure debuted at
> number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.
> 
> Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she blamed
> video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that videogames,
> not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off someone's
> head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?
> 
> Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:17:02 -0600

Talking 'bout the PSX... my friend recently got one for Christmas (he
already has and N64) and he is the type of guy that doesn't care about
what system it is as long as the games are good.  To be quite frank, he
HATES his playstation.  He has played MULTIPLE games and he states that
load time is horrendous, graphics are twitchy, innovation is bad the
controller is horrible, and graphics are mediocre.  When I asked him
what he did like about it he said 'cinematics but once thats over the
REAL game starts'.  That is his opinion.  What do I think of the PSXII? 
I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed me
yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
games.

> Sean McWherter wrote:
> 
> It appears to me that the N64 is on the rebound both here and in
> Japan.  I was beginning to wonder if 1999 would be the last year for
> it.  With the recent releases of T2 and Zelda, I believe that it
> should give more people the thought of, "maybe it's not just a childs
> play thing."  And especially since the major developers for 64 (Rare,
> Acclaim 'Iguana', and of course, NCL) all are working on multiple
> releases for the future, it would appear their confidence has been
> revived in cartridge games.  I believe that the fact that some of the
> more popular PSX games are being ported to the N64 shows will make
> those thinking of which system to buy, lean towards the N64.  And a
> finale thought on how Dreamcast's release will effect the N64's
> sales: For those that can afford $600 on a system made by the company
> with the best track record in console history, yeah right, go for it.
> Personally, I am planning on buying it from a friend about a year
> after he buys it.  I will most likely end up putting it in the box in
> my closet labeled, "Video Game Failures", which is mostly occupied my
> Sega stuff.  Anyone got any additional comments?  Sorry for the long
> post.
> -Sean
> P.S.  PSX2 on the other hand...

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:20:56 PST

Yeah, I remember Ms. Curtis' social commentary of the horror of 
videogames.  She runs her mouth on the horrors of video games and then 
we get garbage like H2horrible and the latest piece of crap she was over 
paid for.  

elliot

>From: Bastion007@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:06 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: [N64] Stuff
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
>
>The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use 
this
>dose so AFTER they beat the game.
>
>Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.
>
>How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.
>
>Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure 
debuted at
>number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.
>
>Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she 
blamed
>video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that 
videogames,
>not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off 
someone's
>head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?
>
>Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.
>
>~Matt
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:25:04 PST

Oh, the other stuff...

Pokemon - LOVE IT !  Started me playing my GB again, and look for a new 
one.  Just hope they don't 'foold' the market, but seeing how it's still 
the craze overseas, I don't think that'll happen.

Donkey Kong 64 - Well, if Perfect Dark is taking THIS long, imagine what 
Rare's doing with this one.

elliot

>From: Bastion007@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:06 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: [N64] Stuff
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>Okay, here's some stuff to talk about.
>
>The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use 
this
>dose so AFTER they beat the game.
>
>Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.
>
>How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.
>
>Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure 
debuted at
>number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.
>
>Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she 
blamed
>video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that 
videogames,
>not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off 
someone's
>head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?
>
>Anyway, that should start some new threads on the list. Cheers.
>
>~Matt
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:30:48 PST

What multiple games are you talking about ?

elliot


>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:17:02 -0600
>From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>Talking 'bout the PSX... my friend recently got one for Christmas (he
>already has and N64) and he is the type of guy that doesn't care about
>what system it is as long as the games are good.  To be quite frank, he
>HATES his playstation.  He has played MULTIPLE games and he states that
>load time is horrendous, graphics are twitchy, innovation is bad the
>controller is horrible, and graphics are mediocre.  When I asked him
>what he did like about it he said 'cinematics but once thats over the
>REAL game starts'.  That is his opinion.  What do I think of the PSXII? 
>I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed me
>yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
>games.
>
>> Sean McWherter wrote:
>> 
>> It appears to me that the N64 is on the rebound both here and in
>> Japan.  I was beginning to wonder if 1999 would be the last year for
>> it.  With the recent releases of T2 and Zelda, I believe that it
>> should give more people the thought of, "maybe it's not just a childs
>> play thing."  And especially since the major developers for 64 (Rare,
>> Acclaim 'Iguana', and of course, NCL) all are working on multiple
>> releases for the future, it would appear their confidence has been
>> revived in cartridge games.  I believe that the fact that some of the
>> more popular PSX games are being ported to the N64 shows will make
>> those thinking of which system to buy, lean towards the N64.  And a
>> finale thought on how Dreamcast's release will effect the N64's
>> sales: For those that can afford $600 on a system made by the company
>> with the best track record in console history, yeah right, go for it.
>> Personally, I am planning on buying it from a friend about a year
>> after he buys it.  I will most likely end up putting it in the box in
>> my closet labeled, "Video Game Failures", which is mostly occupied my
>> Sega stuff.  Anyone got any additional comments?  Sorry for the long
>> post.
>> -Sean
>> P.S.  PSX2 on the other hand...
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] Next Bond Game....
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:51:02 PST

Gameinformer ( http://www.gameinformer.com ) is reporting that Nintendo 
has secured the rights for to produce a videogame based on the next 
James Bond Movie, and Rare will develope the game.  The kicker is...the 
game won't appear on the N64.  It will appear on the NEXT nintendo 
console.  Hmm....  Any thoughts ?

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Bond Game....
Date: 16 Jan 1999 17:48:17 +1100

At 22:51 15-01-99 PST, you wrote:
>Gameinformer ( http://www.gameinformer.com ) is reporting that Nintendo 
>has secured the rights for to produce a videogame based on the next 
>James Bond Movie, and Rare will develope the game.  The kicker is...the 
>game won't appear on the N64.  It will appear on the NEXT nintendo 
>console.  Hmm....  Any thoughts ?
>
>elliot 
>

By the time the next Nintendo machine makes it to the US, the next bond film
after this one will be right around the corner. Although, I am happy that
they decided one Bond game is enough for the N64, instead of doing the Lara
Croft thing.


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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 09:22:26 -0500


>What do I think of the PSXII?
>I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed me
>yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
>games.


I'm beginning to think about possibly getting a PSX2 when it comes out.
Those graphics on the Dreamcast are frankly, AMAZING, and the PSXII should
be comparable or better. Also, the N64 is starting to lack the great titles
that will keep my gaming needs satisfied. I know, Rare puts out 1-2 a year,
and Nintendo will probably bring out maybe 2 quality titles a year, but it's
not enough for me.

On the other hand, Sony doesn't really have any franchises that I really
like. Nintendo has a bunch (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Starfox,
Castlevania, etc.) Sony has what, Crash? Tomb Raider?

I guess it all depends on when Nintendo brings out it's next-gen system. If
it within 6 months-a year of the PSXII, then I'll probably wait. Otherwise,
it's sony time for me.


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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 11:03:58 -0600

I agree with your friend. I have a friend who bought PSX recently, he
brought it over and he had 2 game, Bushido Blade and Tekken 3. Man, do they
both like salty chocolate balls. Bushido blade is terrible. From the main
menu to the game takes about 3 minutes of loading, then since the game is
one-hit-kills, no power, matches are 10 seconds. WEEHAA!!! FUNNN!!! Tekken
3 just had horrible graphics, I could hardly stand looking at the screen,
they were so bad.
I, seriously, not as an N64 owner, don't see how so many people like PSX.

I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have cartridges that
can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered! 

		Stone Cold Spencer

>Talking 'bout the PSX... my friend recently got one for Christmas (he
>already has and N64) and he is the type of guy that doesn't care about
>what system it is as long as the games are good.  To be quite frank, he
>HATES his playstation.  He has played MULTIPLE games and he states that
>load time is horrendous, graphics are twitchy, innovation is bad the
>controller is horrible, and graphics are mediocre.  When I asked him
>what he did like about it he said 'cinematics but once thats over the
>REAL game starts'.  That is his opinion.  What do I think of the PSXII? 
>I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed me
>yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
>games.



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Subject: [N64] NBA Jam 99 disappointment
Date: 16 Jan 1999 10:07:58 -0800

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 13:08:31 -0600

Yeah, but what would even be better is if Nintendo came out with an N128
or something like that with storage mediums that can hold 1 gigabyte!! 
And whats Nintendo's problem with not releasing the DD?  Every one I
know that has an N64 says they would buy it for sure.

Spencer wrote:
> 
> I agree with your friend. I have a friend who bought PSX recently, he
> brought it over and he had 2 game, Bushido Blade and Tekken 3. Man, do they
> both like salty chocolate balls. Bushido blade is terrible. From the main
> menu to the game takes about 3 minutes of loading, then since the game is
> one-hit-kills, no power, matches are 10 seconds. WEEHAA!!! FUNNN!!! Tekken
> 3 just had horrible graphics, I could hardly stand looking at the screen,
> they were so bad.
> I, seriously, not as an N64 owner, don't see how so many people like PSX.
> 
> I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have cartridges that
> can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered!
> 
>                 Stone Cold Spencer

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Stuff
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:20:43 EST

Yep. Virus, anyone? Looks like an Oscar winner to me.

Anyone see the Metal Gear solid toys from McFarlane toys? DAMN! I swear, THE
best figures I have ever seen. And each character is either huge or has a
million accessories. I can't wait for 'em.

~Matt

<<Yeah, I remember Ms. Curtis' social commentary of the horror of 
videogames.  She runs her mouth on the horrors of video games and then 
we get garbage like H2horrible and the latest piece of crap she was over 
paid for.  

elliot>>

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:24:05 -0500

>Bushido blade is terrible. From the main
>menu to the game takes about 3 minutes of loading, then since the game is
>one-hit-kills, no power, matches are 10 seconds. WEEHAA!!! FUNNN!!!

OK, generally I would agree with you that the vast majority of PSX games are
crap, but you seem to have picked two very odd games to pick on. Bushido
Blade is one of the most innovative fighters ever. The reason it has 1 hit
kills is because in real-life, if you are impaled byt a sword in the heart,
you will die. However, if you take the time to master the game, the matches
will be much longer, since you will actually be able to block the guys
thrusts. Don't be so quick to judge.. there are lots of good N64 games that
don't seem too great right off.

>Tekken 3 just had horrible graphics, I could hardly stand looking at the
screen,
>they were so bad.

Um. Tekken 3. Arguably the best fighter of all time. And you don't like it.
Tell me, do you find Dual Heroes to be a good game?

>I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have cartridges that
>can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered!


Sure, we'd like that, but what we wouldn't like is to have to pay like $150
per game for a cart of that size. If the N2000 had a VR system that lets you
actually be IN the game, Sony would be murdered too, but it's not gonna
happen.




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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Bond Game....
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:24:16 EST

As Kyle's mom would say, "Wha?Wha?WHAT!?!?!?" Here we are talking about all
these new kick ass N64 games and how the N64 has a few more years left, and we
get this bulls*it? Dammit, Nintendo is pulling a Sega.

~Matt

<<Gameinformer ( http://www.gameinformer.com ) is reporting that Nintendo 
has secured the rights for to produce a videogame based on the next 
James Bond Movie, and Rare will develope the game.  The kicker is...the 
game won't appear on the N64.  It will appear on the NEXT nintendo 
console.  Hmm....  Any thoughts ?

elliot>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:29:49 EST

Nah, here's the key. Disks. Nintendo siad themselves that the disks, while
more expensive than CDs, are much cheaper than carts. So Nintenod can engineer
a disk that can hold a gigabyte! PLANTY OF ROOM, RE-WRITEABLE, AND YOU CAN'T
BREAK 'EM!!! PERFECT!

No that I'm done, who thinks Nintendo botched the Zelda toys? They could have
done so much more!

~Matt

<<Yeah, but what would even be better is if Nintendo came out with an N128
or something like that with storage mediums that can hold 1 gigabyte!! 
And whats Nintendo's problem with not releasing the DD?  Every one I
know that has an N64 says they would buy it for sure.>>

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:37:10 -0500



Don't think that disks are somehow the end-all of game formats. Just like
carts and CD's, they have their pros and cons.

Pros:
Rewritability
Cheaper than carts with comparable storage space
Faster access time than CD's

Cons:
Less storage than CD's
Less durable than carts, because you have magnetic media, so it is possible
to erase data.
Slower access time than carts, so you will see some load time.

>Nah, here's the key. Disks. Nintendo siad themselves that the disks, while
>more expensive than CDs, are much cheaper than carts. So Nintenod can
engineer
>a disk that can hold a gigabyte! PLANTY OF ROOM, RE-WRITEABLE, AND YOU
CAN'T
>BREAK 'EM!!! PERFECT!
>
>No that I'm done, who thinks Nintendo botched the Zelda toys? They could
have
>done so much more!
>
>~Matt
>
><<Yeah, but what would even be better is if Nintendo came out with an N128
>or something like that with storage mediums that can hold 1 gigabyte!!
>And whats Nintendo's problem with not releasing the DD?  Every one I
>know that has an N64 says they would buy it for sure.>>
>
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:32:46 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:

> On the other hand, Sony doesn't really have any franchises that I really
> like. Nintendo has a bunch (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Starfox,
> Castlevania, etc.) Sony has what, Crash? Tomb Raider?

No, Sony does not really have any big name franchises...but they do have
so great games.  Plenty of great fighters (most better than any N64
fighter).  Sony has a ton of RPGs (and Square!).  Some good shooters. Good
sports games.  Vehicular battle games (my personal fav).  Just depends on
what you like.

Stryder


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:38:38 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Spencer wrote:

> I agree with your friend. I have a friend who bought PSX recently, he
> brought it over and he had 2 game, Bushido Blade and Tekken 3. Man, do they
> both like salty chocolate balls. Bushido blade is terrible. From the main
> menu to the game takes about 3 minutes of loading, then since the game is
> one-hit-kills, no power, matches are 10 seconds. WEEHAA!!! FUNNN!!! Tekken

Good grief you are biased.  Bushido Blade is designed to be like REAL
sword fighting.  It may not be your style, but it is a good game.  I
personally don't like the Tekken series (I am more of a SF fan), but that
crap about it not having good graphics is complete BS.  Tekken is one of
the most praised fighters around.  It is an established great fighter
despite your biased opinions.


> 3 just had horrible graphics, I could hardly stand looking at the screen,
> they were so bad.
> I, seriously, not as an N64 owner, don't see how so many people like PSX.

"Not as an N64 owner"...yeah sure.  You have never given the PSX or any of
its games a fair chance.  You are so blatantly biased it is sickening.


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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:45:42 -0800

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A CD will not hold as much as a 1 gig. disk.  Does anyone remember Sega =
channel?  It went through the cble lines and you paid like fifteen bucks =
a month to play forty or fifty games.  That would be a cool feature for =
Nintendo's next machine.  Combine it with the ability to network games =
worlwide, and there would be all kinds of ways for companies to make =
money.  Like, holding tournaments with a five dollar entrance fee or =
something.  Nintendo has been working with Netscape, so maybe we will =
see something like this happen.  Anybody got any ideas on what you would =
like to see put into Nintendo's next system?
-Sean
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  Less durable than carts, because you have magnetic media, so it is =
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  Slower access time than carts, so you will see some load time.

  >Nah, here's the key. Disks. Nintendo siad themselves that the disks, =
while
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  >~Matt
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] HELP!!!!!!!! the Like-Like swallowed my stuff
Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:52:40 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:41:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes:

>   I got my firesuit and shield swallowed up in the fire temple by 
>  that blob guy and didn't know enough to kill him right away to get it 
>  back. Now I don't have enough time to kill the boss or to get out to 
>  buy a new one, what the heck can I do??????
>  
>  Russ
>  

Haha. No just kidding. Do you still have the Ocarina? I bet you do. Use the
Ocarina to warp to anywhere else but the Death Mountain Crater. (Maybe the
Temple of Time?) Then go to the Bazaar in Karkariko Village and get a new
shield and then head to Goron City to get a new fire suit. And next time, kill
the stinking Like-Like.

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:54:36 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:50:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> True, but who has NCL used besides Rare and HAl ?  NCL rarely trusts 
>  their property, i.e., Mario, Donkey Kong, et al., to outside 
>  development.
>  
>  elliot

Besides Rare & HAL there is Hudson Soft (Mario Party).

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:55:02 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 11:07:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
d.fentie@home.com writes:

<< Yeah, but what would even be better is if Nintendo came out with an N128
 or something like that with storage mediums that can hold 1 gigabyte!! 
 And whats Nintendo's problem with not releasing the DD?  Every one I
 know that has an N64 says they would buy it for sure.>>

	Nintendo has done away, for the most part, with 64DD because of the
"breakthroughs", I guess you would call it, with Carts.  They've been able to
cram a hell of alot more into cartridges than ever before while still being
able to keep the prices decent.  Nintendo is going to send out the 64DD in
Japan sometime this year, I think, and if it goes over really well there, it
may come to the US, but don't get your hopes up.

--David
 

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Those nasty Like-Likes
Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:59:01 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 12:09:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
d.fentie@home.com writes:

> Uh.. Yeah, but it!  hehe, Anyways I thought I'd give some tips on
>  beating the like-like (think that eats your items).  I usually hit it
>  with the hook/long-shot and I will be pulled to it and it will freeze
>  and stop moving.  Then I hit it once with the Biggoron sword and run
>  away.  I continue to do this until it dies (better than wasting bombs or
>  arrows or magic...)

I usually just hit the Like-Like with two arrows (in the lower half of its
body) or feed it a bomb.

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:00:06 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 11:31:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< Nah, here's the key. Disks. Nintendo siad themselves that the disks, while
 more expensive than CDs, are much cheaper than carts. So Nintenod can
engineer
 a disk that can hold a gigabyte! PLANTY OF ROOM, RE-WRITEABLE, AND YOU CAN'T
 BREAK 'EM!!! PERFECT!
 
 No that I'm done, who thinks Nintendo botched the Zelda toys? They could have
 done so much more!
 
 ~Matt
  >>


	Well, disks would be nice, but they aren't unbreakable.  Get one near a
magnet, and it's gone.
	As for the toys, I wasn't too impressed with them either, although the
Ganondorf figure looks pretty cool.

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Prelude of Light
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:02:17 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 2:32:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> Don't you learn the Prelude of Light right after you enter the Temple of
Time
>  as Adult Link?
>  
>  --David

You learn the Prelude of Light from Sheik after you beat the Forest Temple. So
Russ may have just gotten the Fairy Bow from the Forest Temple and then
decided to beat the Fire Temple first.. Why? I don't know.

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:04:22 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 12:45:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< A CD will not hold as much as a 1 gig. disk.  Does anyone remember Sega
channel?  It went through the cble lines and you paid like fifteen bucks a
month to play forty or fifty games.  That would be a cool feature for
Nintendo's next machine.  Combine it with the ability to network games
worlwide, and there would be all kinds of ways for companies to make money.
Like, holding tournaments with a five dollar entrance fee or something.
Nintendo has been working with Netscape, so maybe we will see something like
this happen.  Anybody got any ideas on what you would like to see put into
Nintendo's next system?
 -Sean >>

	I would love to see a high speed modem, and least doulbe the processing power
of the N64.  But that would make it outrageously expensive...

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2, Pokemon, Donkey Kong 64, Dreamcast,
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:16:04 EST

In a message dated 1/15/99 11:06:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> The Master Cheat For turok 2 is out. I hope that anyone planning to use this
>  dose so AFTER they beat the game.
>  
   That didn't take long. To think I send away for the GS 2.2 for nothing now.
Oh wait, I don't even have Turok 2 yet. So what's the code? I may just have to
rent it now. But only if I can find a strategy guide too.

>  Who wants any N64 Pokemon games? I'd LOVE some.
>  
   What's a Pokemon?


>  How many think Donkey Kong 64 looks cool? I do, form the whole 1 shot.
>
    Looks like a Banjo-Kazooie clone. 
  
>  Anyone else disappointed with the DreamCast laucnh? Sonci Adventure debuted
> at
>  number 7. Doesn't bode well for Sega.
> 

Not as disappointed as I am with your spelling, especially since AOL has a
spell checker. ;) Is a number 7 bad these days now? The Dreamcast launch was
mostly held back by the limited amount of systems available. But I'm not
concerned. I haven't seen anything, yet, for the DC that makes me want to run
out and buy the system the day it comes out in America. Besides. My N64 still
has at least 4 years left in it and my PlayStation still has at least 2 years
to go.. I'm not concerned at all.
 
>  Anyone read that quote by Jamie Lee Curtis in EGM a while ago hwere she 
> blamed
>  video games, and not movies, for violent children? She said that
videogames,
>  not movies, desenitized us to violence. yeah, and her lobbing off someone's
>  head in Halloween: H2O is just wholesome family fun, right?
>  
   Jamie Lee Curtis is nothing without Richard Lewis.

Trey

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Subject: [N64] Turok 2 -- I finished it!
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:22:14 -0500

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:22:52 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 12:20:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> For those that can afford $600 on a system made by the company with the best
> track record in console history, yeah right, go for it.  Personally, I am 
> planning on buying it from a friend about a year after he buys it.  I will 
> most likely end up putting it in the box in my closet labeled, "Video Game 
> Failures", which is mostly occupied my Sega stuff.  Anyone got any
additional 
> comments?  Sorry for the long post.
>  -Sean

I doubt the Dreamcast will be $600. I se it as $250, $300 max.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:25:09 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 12:31:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:

> We're looking at a few more solid years, and thanks to
>  the DC's late launch and the PSX2's later launch, the N64 will be the only
>  real next-gen console for a bit longer.
>  

The N64 will be around for a few more years, I think 4, but the PlayStation
will be with us for at least another 2 years. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:28:46 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 1:31:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> What multiple games are you talking about ?
>  
>  elliot

probably bargan bin games like Rayman, Twisted Metal, Need For Speed 2. etc.

ha. funny. no comment

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 13:34:13 -0800

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  > For those that can afford $600 on a system made by the company with =
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  I doubt the Dreamcast will be $600. I se it as $250, $300 max.

  Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Bond Game....
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:29:31 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 1:52:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> Gameinformer ( http://www.gameinformer.com ) is reporting that Nintendo 
>  has secured the rights for to produce a videogame based on the next 
>  James Bond Movie, and Rare will develope the game.  The kicker is...the 
>  game won't appear on the N64.  It will appear on the NEXT nintendo 
>  console.  Hmm....  Any thoughts ?
>  
>  elliot 

Maybe it will be on the Game Boy Color.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:31:34 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 9:24:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> On the other hand, Sony doesn't really have any franchises that I really
>  like. Nintendo has a bunch (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Starfox,
>  Castlevania, etc.) Sony has what, Crash? Tomb Raider?
>  

Actually Konami has Castlevania, not Nintendo. And there has been a
Castlevania game on the PlayStation. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:34:04 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 12:03:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
10039073@wsd1.org writes:

> I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have cartridges that
>  can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered! 
>  
>  		Stone Cold Spencer
>  

Yeah, that's put a dent in a 650 Meg CD. As for why so many people like the
PlayStation? No comment. 

Trey




















































more games

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:00:12 -0600

"Crappy games"

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/16/99 12:03:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> 10039073@wsd1.org writes:
> 
> > I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have cartridges that
> >  can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered!
> >
> >               Stone Cold Spencer
> >
> 
> Yeah, that's put a dent in a 650 Meg CD. As for why so many people like the
> PlayStation? No comment.
> 
> Trey
> 
> more games
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] What if...?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:33:49 EST

	The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I wonder
what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo still be
where they are now, or futher than they are now?

--David

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:00:04 EST

They will release it so that the company will not lose face in the public.

~Matt

<<Nintendo has done away, for the most part, with 64DD because of the
"breakthroughs", I guess you would call it, with Carts.  They've been able to
cram a hell of alot more into cartridges than ever before while still being
able to keep the prices decent.  Nintendo is going to send out the 64DD in
Japan sometime this year, I think, and if it goes over really well there, it
may come to the US, but don't get your hopes up.
 
--David>>


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2, Pokemon, Donkey Kong 64, Dreamcast,
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:04:03 EST

Hey, gimmie a break. My 4.o is screwed and I've been using an old version of
3.0 for a while now.

Yes, unless sage can court Square away from Sony, then there is very little
that will make me give up my N64 or playStation.

~Matt

<<Not as disappointed as I am with your spelling, especially since AOL has a
spell checker. ;) Is a number 7 bad these days now? The Dreamcast launch was
mostly held back by the limited amount of systems available. But I'm not
concerned. I haven't seen anything, yet, for the DC that makes me want to run
out and buy the system the day it comes out in America. Besides. My N64 still
has at least 4 years left in it and my PlayStation still has at least 2 years
to go.. I'm not concerned at all.

Trey>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] What if...?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:08:39 EST

I think that the Nintendo/Sony duo would have finnaly killed Sega, dominated
the console market, and retarded the growth of the industry. Even though I'm a
Nintendo fan, and it was sad to see the king fall, Sony's presence has done
nothing but expand and heighten the indsutries' standards.

~Matt	

<<The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I wonder
what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo still be
where they are now, or futher than they are now?

--David>>

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:35:49 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 3:45:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> Anybody got any ideas on what you would like to see put into Nintendo's next
> system?
>  -Sean

Have the "Rumble" built in for the controllers, two motors would be nice. Have
all the face buttons on the controller the same size, but keep the N64
controller design for the next system. CD-ROM (or DVD-ROM) as the storage
medium. Donuts. Have a dedicated sound chip. Four controller ports. (I think
that's gonna be standard fare on all systems now on.) A huge texture cache. A
modem. The memory card manager should be hardware based (like the
PlayStation), not software based like the N64 is. A 2-D & a 3-D graphics
processor. That's just off the top of my head. (Where my hair used to be)

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] What if...?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:39:59 -0600

Actually the 'King' as you put it has not fallen at all.  We all know
that Nintendo may be a bit behind Sony but I have a feeling that the gap
is closing...

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I think that the Nintendo/Sony duo would have finnaly killed Sega, dominated
> the console market, and retarded the growth of the industry. Even though I'm a
> Nintendo fan, and it was sad to see the king fall, Sony's presence has done
> nothing but expand and heighten the indsutries' standards.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> <<The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I wonder
> what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo still be
> where they are now, or futher than they are now?
> 
> --David>>
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:41:56 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 4:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> I would love to see a high speed modem, and least double the processing
power
>  of the N64.  But that would make it outrageously expensive...
>  
>  --David

Like a system with a 128-Bit graphics engine that runs at 200 MHz? I think
that will cost about $250 when it hits the States later this year. Not that
expensive...

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:45:15 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 4:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> When the Saturn and PSX came out they were $500.  
>  -Sean

What planet was that on? When the PlayStation came out on Sept 9th 1995 it was
$299.99 and when the Saturn came out in summer of 1995 (don't know exact date)
it was $399.99. Any fool knows that.

Trey

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Subject: Re: [N64] What if...?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:00:01 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 6:35:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> 
>  	The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I 
> wonder
>  what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo still
be
>  where they are now, or futher than they are now?
>  
>  --David

If it was sucessful the state of gaming as we know it today would be far
different. Think about it, all the SNES games that we loved would proabably
been made for the SNES PlayStation: Chrono Trigger, Mega Man X3, Final Fantasy
6, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, etc. The SNES PlayStation would, with no
doubt in my mind, have crushed the Genesis, Sega CD, and PC Engine. A lot of
games that went to the PC Engine would probably have been made for the SNES-
PSX instead. In 1995 the Sega Saturn would be on the market and unlike history
as we know it, the Saturn would be sucessful in both Japan & America since
there wouldn't the three way split (Nintendo, Sony, and Sega) but still only
the big two; Nintendo & Sega. 

In December of 1997 Nintendo/Sony would show off their new machine, the
Nintendo PlayStation 64 and it would sell like mad, one year later Sega would
unveil the Dreamcast. 

Maybe.

Or the SNES-PSX could have been another Sega CD. In that case Sega would be
number one with their Saturn with the N64 playing catch-up and by the time the
end of 1998 rolled around people would be comparing Zelda : Ocarina of Time
(N64) to Metal Gear Solid (Saturn)

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:01:09 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 7:01:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> They will release it (the 64DD)so that the company will not lose face in the
public.
>  
>  ~Matt

Isn't that a bit too late ;)

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] What if...?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:07:07 -0600

I really wish there was some sort of way to go back in time... but
intill then you'll have to ponder until I finish it.. er... I mean...
ignore those last 3 words.

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/16/99 6:35:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> >
> >       The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I
> > wonder
> >  what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo still
> be
> >  where they are now, or futher than they are now?
> >
> >  --David
> 
> If it was sucessful the state of gaming as we know it today would be far
> different. Think about it, all the SNES games that we loved would proabably
> been made for the SNES PlayStation: Chrono Trigger, Mega Man X3, Final Fantasy
> 6, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, etc. The SNES PlayStation would, with no
> doubt in my mind, have crushed the Genesis, Sega CD, and PC Engine. A lot of
> games that went to the PC Engine would probably have been made for the SNES-
> PSX instead. In 1995 the Sega Saturn would be on the market and unlike history
> as we know it, the Saturn would be sucessful in both Japan & America since
> there wouldn't the three way split (Nintendo, Sony, and Sega) but still only
> the big two; Nintendo & Sega.
> 
> In December of 1997 Nintendo/Sony would show off their new machine, the
> Nintendo PlayStation 64 and it would sell like mad, one year later Sega would
> unveil the Dreamcast.
> 
> Maybe.
> 
> Or the SNES-PSX could have been another Sega CD. In that case Sega would be
> number one with their Saturn with the N64 playing catch-up and by the time the
> end of 1998 rolled around people would be comparing Zelda : Ocarina of Time
> (N64) to Metal Gear Solid (Saturn)
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2, Pokemon, Donkey Kong 64, Dreamcast,
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:05:59 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 7:05:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> Hey, gimmie a break. My 4.o is screwed and I've been using an old version of
>  3.0 for a while now.
>  
>  Yes, unless sage can court Square away from Sony, then there is very little
>  that will make me give up my N64 or playStation.
>  
>  ~Matt

When the Saturn is re-released later this year by Majesco (think Genesis 3)
for $49.99 do yourself a favor and pick one up along with Panzer Dragoon Saga.
And you don't have to give up your N64 & PSX for a Dreamcast. Why not have all
three, that is if the Dreamcast doesn't turn out to be another 3D0 or Jaguar.


Trey

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 17:16:21 -0800

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Thats what I paid for it at Circuit City in Vista, CA, planet Earth
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  Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 4:45 PM
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  In a message dated 1/16/99 4:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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  > When the Saturn and PSX came out they were $500. =20
  >  -Sean

  What planet was that on? When the PlayStation came out on Sept 9th =
1995 it was
  $299.99 and when the Saturn came out in summer of 1995 (don't know =
exact date)
  it was $399.99. Any fool knows that.

  Trey

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] Saturn Re-Release
Date: 16 Jan 1999 17:19:28 -0800

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When is the Saturn going to be re-released.  Will it still look the =
same?
-Sean
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  Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2, Pokemon, Donkey Kong 64, Dreamcast,


  In a message dated 1/16/99 7:05:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  Bastion007@aol.com writes:

  > Hey, gimmie a break. My 4.o is screwed and I've been using an old =
version of
  >  3.0 for a while now.
  > =20
  >  Yes, unless sage can court Square away from Sony, then there is =
very little
  >  that will make me give up my N64 or playStation.
  > =20
  >  ~Matt

  When the Saturn is re-released later this year by Majesco (think =
Genesis 3)
  for $49.99 do yourself a favor and pick one up along with Panzer =
Dragoon Saga.
  And you don't have to give up your N64 & PSX for a Dreamcast. Why not =
have all
  three, that is if the Dreamcast doesn't turn out to be another 3D0 or =
Jaguar.


  Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:20:27 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 8:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> Thats what I paid ($500) for it (PlayStation) at Circuit City in Vista, CA,
planet 
> Earth

Then you were, as you Americans say it, ripped off.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Saturn Re-Release
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:22:33 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 8:17:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> When is the Saturn going to be re-released.  Will it still look the same?
>  -Sean

Later this year, that's all I know. And Majesco will be re-releasing a lot of
the top Sega Saturn games for discount prices. Like they did with some older
Genesis & Super NES games.

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:58:05 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> probably bargan bin games like Rayman, Twisted Metal, Need For Speed 2. etc.

Rayman is a great platformer!

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span .. Dreamcast
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:04:10 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Sean McWherter wrote:

>   > When the Saturn and PSX came out they were $500.  
>   >  -Sean

Just because you were gullible enough to pay that much, does not mean that
is how much it actually cost.  You could pay that much to import a
Dreamcast, but that does not mean you can claim that is how much it cost
when it was released...no?

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:28:44 PST

I think that a donut-shaped DVD is a great idea.  The N128 then could 
physically prevent itself from running pirated DVDs.  The DVDs could be 
inserted & ejected ΰ la car CD system -- different from the PSX and 
tray-loading PCs, and certainly better than old PC caddies.  The big 
problem is hollow circles aren't very structurally sound... the 
slightest trip over it could break it in two (why it would be laying on 
the ground is another question, but it happens).

Maybe an alternative would be to make a permanent caddie that couldn't 
be opened (except the data head door), and that would be much sturdier 
than a plain old DVD.

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:28:44 PST

I think that a donut-shaped DVD is a great idea.  The N128 then could 
physically prevent itself from running pirated DVDs.  The DVDs could be 
inserted & ejected ΰ la car CD system -- different from the PSX and 
tray-loading PCs, and certainly better than old PC caddies.  The big 
problem is hollow circles aren't very structurally sound... the 
slightest trip over it could break it in two (why it would be laying on 
the ground is another question, but it happens).

Maybe an alternative would be to make a permanent caddie that couldn't 
be opened (except the data head door), and that would be much sturdier 
than a plain old DVD.

Moblin 64

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 23:04:21 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 4:43:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< Like a system with a 128-Bit graphics engine that runs at 200 MHz? I think
 that will cost about $250 when it hits the States later this year. Not that
 expensive...
 
 Trey >>

	Yes, like that, but I'm betting we will see initial prices ranging between
$300 and $350.

--David

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] NBA Jam 99 disappointment
Date: 17 Jan 1999 00:04:04 +0000

> From:          "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
> To:            "N64 Listserve" <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] NBA Jam 99 disappointment
> Date:          Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:07:58 -0800
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> I just rented NBA Jam 99 and boy did they blow that port.  I was =
> expecting awesome dunks, "on fire", slams from half court, and awesome =
> codes that made the game playable for hours at a time.  And oh yeah, the =
> ability to due more than dunk the ball!  Seriously, 103 points in the =
> game and only 3 three-pointers.
> -Sean
> 

     I have to disagree with you on this one. While it is much different than the 
original series (they should've made a new name for it instead of deceiving
people into thinking it's the same type of arcade style gameplay), I think it's a good
addition to N64's b-ball games. The foul shooting is sweet, graphics are excellent,
commentary is pretty good and it even has a 3-point contest. My only complaint
with it is that since it has high-res graphics it's pretty slow, but you get used to it 
after a little while. I guess that if you don't like basketball sims, you won't like it, 
but I do and had a lot of fun with it. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 00:28:55 +0000

> From:          "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       Re: [N64] N64's life span
> Date:          Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:22:26 -0500
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> >What do I think of the PSXII?
> >I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed me
> >yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
> >games.
> 
> 
> I'm beginning to think about possibly getting a PSX2 when it comes out.
> Those graphics on the Dreamcast are frankly, AMAZING, and the PSXII should
> be comparable or better. Also, the N64 is starting to lack the great titles
> that will keep my gaming needs satisfied. I know, Rare puts out 1-2 a year,
> and Nintendo will probably bring out maybe 2 quality titles a year, but it's
> not enough for me.
> 

    I think that number is gonna go way up this year and probably next year, also. 
Nintendo knows they need to make more quality software to keep the N64 going 
until Nintendo's next system. So, I have a feeling we'll see like 3 NCL made
games and then a bunch by Hudson Soft and EAD. Also we already have 4 that
are coming by Rare (DKC, PD, JFG and Twelve Tales:  CQ), but they may have one
more, too, like Blast Corps 2 or maybe even a new KI. So, along with all the 
third-party stuff coming, that's gonna be enough to keep me happy for awhile. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 23:32:50 -0500

At 07:35 PM 1/16/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/16/99 3:45:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
>> Anybody got any ideas on what you would like to see put into Nintendo's
next
>> system?
>>  -Sean
>
>Have the "Rumble" built in for the controllers, two motors would be nice.
Have
>all the face buttons on the controller the same size, but keep the N64
>controller design for the next system. CD-ROM (or DVD-ROM) as the storage
>medium. Donuts. Have a dedicated sound chip. Four controller ports. (I think
>that's gonna be standard fare on all systems now on.) A huge texture cache. A
>modem. The memory card manager should be hardware based (like the
>PlayStation), not software based like the N64 is. A 2-D & a 3-D graphics
>processor. That's just off the top of my head. (Where my hair used to be)

How about great games? 


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Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 00:45:51 +0000

> From:          "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] Nintendo's next system
> Date:          Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:45:42 -0800
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> A CD will not hold as much as a 1 gig. disk.  Does anyone remember Sega =
> channel?  It went through the cble lines and you paid like fifteen bucks =
> a month to play forty or fifty games.  That would be a cool feature for =
> Nintendo's next machine.  Combine it with the ability to network games =
> worlwide, and there would be all kinds of ways for companies to make =
> money.  Like, holding tournaments with a five dollar entrance fee or =
> something.  Nintendo has been working with Netscape, so maybe we will =
> see something like this happen.  Anybody got any ideas on what you would =
> like to see put into Nintendo's next system?
> -Sean


    Yeah, I remember the Sega Channel. It was excellent. And that is a GREAT idea,
but I don't think we'll ever see that again since isn't it really only possible with a
cart system (which is very unlikely any other consoles will be)? And also I can't
see Nintendo doing that since it would probably make them less money that way.
    Well, call me crazy, but I don't think I would be that disappointed if Nintendo
went with carts again. I just love having no load time. And I'm sure the prices for 
games would be the same as they are now. But since I doubt that will happen again
I hope they can get a very fast CD-ROM drive or a better version of the DD. Also
4 controller-ports would be nice. Umm.. A Dual Shock thing like Trey said. 
And it would be cool (if it could be done) if you would just put all your games in diff.
slots in the system and just push a button and it would load it up instead of having
to switch games. Can't think of anything else.. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:49:10 -0800

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Rare is also going to release Banjo-Tooie soon
-Sean

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  > From:          "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
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  > Subject:       Re: [N64] N64's life span
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  >=20
  > >What do I think of the PSXII?
  > >I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed =
me
  > >yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
  > >games.
  >=20
  >=20
  > I'm beginning to think about possibly getting a PSX2 when it comes =
out.
  > Those graphics on the Dreamcast are frankly, AMAZING, and the PSXII =
should
  > be comparable or better. Also, the N64 is starting to lack the great =
titles
  > that will keep my gaming needs satisfied. I know, Rare puts out 1-2 =
a year,
  > and Nintendo will probably bring out maybe 2 quality titles a year, =
but it's
  > not enough for me.
  >=20

      I think that number is gonna go way up this year and probably next =
year, also.=20
  Nintendo knows they need to make more quality software to keep the N64 =
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that
  are coming by Rare (DKC, PD, JFG and Twelve Tales:  CQ), but they may =
have one
  more, too, like Blast Corps 2 or maybe even a new KI. So, along with =
all the=20
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awhile.=20

                           ZiG (Tim)
                           ICQ UIN: 606350
                           AOL IM: Zig15
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 00:58:54 +0000

> From:          "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       Re: [N64] N64's life span
> Date:          Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:49:10 -0800
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com


> 
> Rare is also going to release Banjo-Tooie soon
> -Sean
> 

   Ahh.. Yes, my bad. And aren't they going to make that Mini Racers game, too, or
is that Nintendo?

>   > >What do I think of the PSXII?
>   > >I'm not sure but I'll stick to Nintendo because they haven't failed =
> me
>   > >yet and the only games I really like are the Mario games and Zelda
>   > >games.
>   >=20
>   >=20
>   > I'm beginning to think about possibly getting a PSX2 when it comes =
> out.
>   > Those graphics on the Dreamcast are frankly, AMAZING, and the PSXII =
> should
>   > be comparable or better. Also, the N64 is starting to lack the great =
> titles
>   > that will keep my gaming needs satisfied. I know, Rare puts out 1-2 =
> a year,
>   > and Nintendo will probably bring out maybe 2 quality titles a year, =
> but it's
>   > not enough for me.
>   >=20
> 
>       I think that number is gonna go way up this year and probably next =
> year, also.=20
>   Nintendo knows they need to make more quality software to keep the N64 =
> going=20
>   until Nintendo's next system. So, I have a feeling we'll see like 3 =
> NCL made
>   games and then a bunch by Hudson Soft and EAD. Also we already have 4 =
> that
>   are coming by Rare (DKC, PD, JFG and Twelve Tales:  CQ), but they may =
> have one
>   more, too, like Blast Corps 2 or maybe even a new KI. So, along with =
> all the=20
>   third-party stuff coming, that's gonna be enough to keep me happy for =
> awhile.=20
> 
>                            ZiG (Tim)
>                            ICQ UIN: 606350
>                            AOL IM: Zig15



                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 09:30:33 PST

>    Yeah, I remember the Sega Channel. It was excellent. And that is 
>a GREAT idea, but I don't think we'll ever see that again since 
>isn't it really only possible with a cart system (which is very 
>unlikely any other consoles will be)? And also I can't see Nintendo 
>doing that since it would probably make them less money that way.
>    Well, call me crazy, but I don't think I would be that 
>disappointed if Nintendo went with carts again. I just love having 
>no load time. And I'm sure the prices for games would be the same as 
>they are now. But since I doubt that will happen again I hope they 
>can get a very fast CD-ROM drive or a better version of the DD. Also
>4 controller-ports would be nice. Umm.. A Dual Shock thing like Trey 
>said. And it would be cool (if it could be done) if you would just >put 
all your games in diff. slots in the system and just push a 
>button and it would load it up instead of having
>to switch games. Can't think of anything else.. Later..
>
>                         ZiG (Tim)
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>                         AOL IM: Zig15

I personally think that N64 should dump the carts and create a 
QUICK-loading CD or DVD system.  8x CD drives cost nothing nowadays, and 
that's just about the fastest that CDs can be RELIABLY spinned (I know 
that they're up to about 32x)  To speed it up even faster, there could 
be multiple read heads.  If there WERE multiple read heads, though, then 
the caddie system I devised earlier would not work.   furthur idea for 
the caddie: there could be a pseodo-memory card inside the caddie, 
effectively making "writable" CD-ROM or DVD-ROM games.

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 14:14:30 EST

Well, I really wat Nintendo to have a larger Memory Pak size. And make the
periprehals cheaper. $20 for a damn Memory Pak? PLEASE!

That, and try to get at least 1 franchise title out a year (Samus one year,
Mario another, rather than 2 Mario titles).

And more interaction with the Game Boy. There's very little use of the 64GB
Pak, and Nintenod has in that little handheld to mother of all VMSs.

And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!

~Matt

<<Well, call me crazy, but I don't think I would be that disappointed if
Nintendo
went with carts again. I just love having no load time. And I'm sure the
prices for 
games would be the same as they are now. But since I doubt that will happen
again I hope they can get a very fast CD-ROM drive or a better version of the
DD. Also 4 controller-ports would be nice. Umm.. A Dual Shock thing like Trey
said. 
And it would be cool (if it could be done) if you would just put all your
games in diff. slots in the system and just push a button and it would load it
up instead of having to switch games. Can't think of anything else.. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15>>

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 17 Jan 1999 14:55:18 -0500


What shape are DVD's now? I haven't seen one yet, but since DVD players p=
lay
CD's, I would assume they are the same shape? Are DVD's just full disc,
instead of the hollow center like CD's?

>I think that a donut-shaped DVD is a great idea.  The N128 then could
>physically prevent itself from running pirated DVDs.  The DVDs could be
>inserted & ejected =E0 la car CD system -- different from the PSX and
>tray-loading PCs, and certainly better than old PC caddies.  The big
>problem is hollow circles aren't very structurally sound... the
>slightest trip over it could break it in two (why it would be laying on
>the ground is another question, but it happens).
>
>Maybe an alternative would be to make a permanent caddie that couldn't
>be opened (except the data head door), and that would be much sturdier
>than a plain old DVD.
>
>Moblin 64
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 14:57:07 -0500


>Well, I really wat Nintendo to have a larger Memory Pak size. And make the
>periprehals cheaper. $20 for a damn Memory Pak? PLEASE!


That's why the Dexdrive is so great.

>That, and try to get at least 1 franchise title out a year (Samus one year,
>Mario another, rather than 2 Mario titles).


No argument from me here.

>And more interaction with the Game Boy. There's very little use of the 64GB
>Pak, and Nintenod has in that little handheld to mother of all VMSs.

Yeah, I guess that would be cool, but personally I'm not very excited by all
this VMS and Pocketstation stuff.

>And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!

Like?



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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 16:37:15 EST

>And more interaction with the Game Boy. There's very little use of the 64GB
>Pak, and Nintenod has in that little handheld to mother of all VMSs.

<<Yeah, I guess that would be cool, but personally I'm not very excited by all
this VMS and Pocketstation stuff.>>

Neither am I. But Nintendo, for example, could make Smash Borthers sell
millions in a very simple way. Rather than having Pikachu a selectable
character in Smash Brothers, they could have an open slot, where, using the
64GB Pak, a player could transport ANY Pokemon into the game that they have in
their Game Boy title.  This would, essentially, make the roster of characters
all the mascots, and then the other 151 Pokemon. Things like this that
Nintendo misses out on should be corrected in the future.

>And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!

<<Like?>>

Well, not Nintendo per se, but have them publish more Japanese games here.
Nintendo didn't bring all the Final Fantasys here, and there are tons of games
thta are Japan only that can be found in an decent game magazine.

~Matt

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 14:05:51 -0800

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:04:27 -0500


><<Yeah, I guess that would be cool, but personally I'm not very excited by
all
>this VMS and Pocketstation stuff.>>
>
>Neither am I. But Nintendo, for example, could make Smash Borthers sell
>millions in a very simple way. Rather than having Pikachu a selectable
>character in Smash Brothers, they could have an open slot, where, using the
>64GB Pak, a player could transport ANY Pokemon into the game that they have
in
>their Game Boy title.  This would, essentially, make the roster of
characters
>all the mascots, and then the other 151 Pokemon. Things like this that
>Nintendo misses out on should be corrected in the future.


I believe that is an almost exact translation of Pokemon Stadium? Except
that not all 151 Pokemon are there.

>>And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!
>
><<Like?>>
>
>Well, not Nintendo per se, but have them publish more Japanese games here.
>Nintendo didn't bring all the Final Fantasys here, and there are tons of
games
>thta are Japan only that can be found in an decent game magazine.

I think on the whole Nintendo does a good job of bringing Japanese games
here, much better than Sony or Sega. (Actually, infinitely better than
Sega). However, you are assuming that there will be more FF's for a Nintendo
system, which is itself not very likely, considered Square's cemented
relationship with Sony. Not that I'm complaining, I'd much rather see
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From: MrTwoson@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:06:44 EST

One game?? wow, that's a toughy, but i know what it would be, It would be
Final Fantasy 3 for the SNES, that's really the best rpg i've ever played, and
i never get tired, with all the kinks, and story changes, you never play the
same game twice, so yeah, that's what my choice is

FF3 is the one for me!

Peace out
Pete Frye

P.S. Doesn't that sound like FF3 is running for President??

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:49:04 -0600

Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  Mine is earthbound (I
have an Mp3 site for it that is VERY simplistic and nowhere finished
(actually the second page is screwed in format) but check it out: 
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Corridor/7647/TendasEarthb.html )


>I'd much rather see
> something like Secret of Mana than FF.

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:49:45 -0600

Earthbound.

MrTwoson@aol.com wrote:
> 
> One game?? wow, that's a toughy, but i know what it would be, It would be
> Final Fantasy 3 for the SNES, that's really the best rpg i've ever played, and
> i never get tired, with all the kinks, and story changes, you never play the
> same game twice, so yeah, that's what my choice is
> 
> FF3 is the one for me!
> 
> Peace out
> Pete Frye
> 
> P.S. Doesn't that sound like FF3 is running for President??
> 
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:54:19 EST

Do I have friends to play with? Then GoldenEye 007.

If I could only play alone, then I'd have to say Tetris.

~Matt

<<If you had to live with one game for the rest of your life, what would it
be.  It could be on any Nintendo system, including handhelds.
-Sean>>

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 16:03:27 -0800

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-Sean
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  Do I have friends to play with? Then GoldenEye 007.

  If I could only play alone, then I'd have to say Tetris.

  ~Matt

  <<If you had to live with one game for the rest of your life, what =
would it
  be.  It could be on any Nintendo system, including handhelds.
  -Sean>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:59:49 EST

>Neither am I. But Nintendo, for example, could make Smash Borthers sell
>millions in a very simple way. Rather than having Pikachu a selectable
>character in Smash Brothers, they could have an open slot, where, using the
>64GB Pak, a player could transport ANY Pokemon into the game that they have
in
>their Game Boy title.  This would, essentially, make the roster of
characters
>all the mascots, and then the other 151 Pokemon. Things like this that
>Nintendo misses out on should be corrected in the future.


<<I believe that is an almost exact translation of Pokemon Stadium? Except
that not all 151 Pokemon are there.>>

Not really. In that game, all you could do is pit Pokemon vs. Pokemon. If they
did so in Smash Brothers, then it would be any Pokemon vs. whoever the other
person is. Also, it would open up the possibility for a 4-player Pokemon
battle. Also, don't try and say, "Well, how'd they get all the control
configurations for 151+ characters?" All they would do is take the control set
up there for Pikachu, and modifiy it so that the other characters would use
the same set up. If there was a 1-button specail move, then the player could
assign which special move they want at that button before the fight, on a
small menu.

<<I think on the whole Nintendo does a good job of bringing Japanese games
here, much better than Sony or Sega. (Actually, infinitely better than
Sega). However, you are assuming that there will be more FF's for a Nintendo
system, which is itself not very likely, considered Square's cemented
relationship with Sony. Not that I'm complaining, I'd much rather see
something like Secret of Mana than FF.>>

Yeah, they do. But there are a lot of games that I'm sure are Japan only
because the developer didn't have enough money to sell it internationally.
ZNintenod could help the small developers ther,e by publishing the title here.

~Matt

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:15:36 +0000

> From:          "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
> To:            "N64 Listserve" <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] Living with one game
> Date:          Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:05:51 -0800
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> If you had to live with one game for the rest of your life, what would =
> it be.  It could be on any Nintendo system, including handhelds.
> -Sean
> 


     Oh, man.. I don't know, maybe one of the Bust-A-Move games? Or maybe just
Tetris or a really good sports game like ISS or NHL '99. I can't pick one, too many 
great games out there. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:14:48 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 3:48:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< 
 Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  Mine is earthbound (I
 have an Mp3 site for it that is VERY simplistic and nowhere finished
 (actually the second page is screwed in format) but check it out: 
 http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Corridor/7647/TendasEarthb.html )
 
  >>

	Well, my favorite RPG(s) to date is a toss up between Chrono Trigger, Final
Fantasy II,   or Breath of Fire 2.  All three of these have really great story
lines, plus CT and BoF2 both have multiple endings, so there is quite a bit a
replay value there.  I wished CT was longer though.  Both BoF2 and FF2 took a
little over 50 hours to complete, but CT only took me 28 I think.

--David

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Subject: Re: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:18:49 +0000

> Date:          Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:49:04 -0600
> From:          D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
> Organization:  @Home Network
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       [N64] Fav RPG
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  Mine is earthbound (I
> have an Mp3 site for it that is VERY simplistic and nowhere finished
> (actually the second page is screwed in format) but check it out: 
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Corridor/7647/TendasEarthb.html )
>

    Well, have not played that many. But... Super Mario RPG is probably my favorite.
It was so sweet, all the different Nintendo characters you could use. Man, I gotta 
get that game somewhere. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:45:07 -0500


><<I believe that is an almost exact translation of Pokemon Stadium? Except
>that not all 151 Pokemon are there.>>
>
>Not really. In that game, all you could do is pit Pokemon vs. Pokemon. If
they
>did so in Smash Brothers, then it would be any Pokemon vs. whoever the
other
>person is. Also, it would open up the possibility for a 4-player Pokemon
>battle. Also, don't try and say, "Well, how'd they get all the control
>configurations for 151+ characters?" All they would do is take the control
set
>up there for Pikachu, and modifiy it so that the other characters would use
>the same set up. If there was a 1-button specail move, then the player
could
>assign which special move they want at that button before the fight, on a
>small menu.


You know what would be even cooler? If they integrated that into the N64
Pokemon RPG.. think about it, real-time Pokemon battles? Gotta love it.



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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:31:48 -0600 (CST)

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  

RPG: FF2 or PS2
Action RPG: Any Zelda (on Nintendo systems) or Secret of Mana

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:37:04 -0600

I guess my favorite RPG would have to Chrono Trigger.  I liked the idea of
being able to mix magic attacks together, and the idea of travelling back
and forth in time.  Maybe that's why I like Zelda 64 so much. :-)

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158



>Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  Mine is earthbound (I
>have an Mp3 site for it that is VERY simplistic and nowhere finished
>(actually the second page is screwed in format) but check it out:
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Corridor/7647/TendasEarthb.html )
>
>
>>I'd much rather see
>> something like Secret of Mana than FF.



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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Bond Game....
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:00:15 PST

The writer of the article said it would be one of the first games for 
Nintendo's next console.  Since, they haven't even decided on a hardware 
developer yet, this title is WAY off in the future.

elliot


>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:29:31 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Next Bond Game....
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/16/99 1:52:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
eljam@hotmail.com
>writes:
>
>> Gameinformer ( http://www.gameinformer.com ) is reporting that 
Nintendo 
>>  has secured the rights for to produce a videogame based on the next 
>>  James Bond Movie, and Rare will develope the game.  The kicker 
is...the 
>>  game won't appear on the N64.  It will appear on the NEXT nintendo 
>>  console.  Hmm....  Any thoughts ?
>>  
>>  elliot 
>
>Maybe it will be on the Game Boy Color.
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:13:00 PST

That's a valid point about the franchises.  But, consider how long 
Nintendo's had to establish them, as compared to Sony ?  Considering the 
popularity of Gran Turismo, I would we'll see sequals to that, but most 
of the mascots on the systems are by third-party developers.  Spyro, 
Croc, and Crash come to mind.

elliot

>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:32:46 -0600 (CST)
>From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
>
>> On the other hand, Sony doesn't really have any franchises that I 
really
>> like. Nintendo has a bunch (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, 
Starfox,
>> Castlevania, etc.) Sony has what, Crash? Tomb Raider?
>
>No, Sony does not really have any big name franchises...but they do 
have
>so great games.  Plenty of great fighters (most better than any N64
>fighter).  Sony has a ton of RPGs (and Square!).  Some good shooters. 
Good
>sports games.  Vehicular battle games (my personal fav).  Just depends 
on
>what you like.
>
>Stryder
>
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:16:07 PST

N64 - about 4.  I still think there's a lot to be squeezed out of the 
system.
PSX - At most 2, IMO.

elliot


>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:25:09 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/16/99 12:31:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Devil929@aol.com
>writes:
>
>> We're looking at a few more solid years, and thanks to
>>  the DC's late launch and the PSX2's later launch, the N64 will be 
the only
>>  real next-gen console for a bit longer.
>>  
>
>The N64 will be around for a few more years, I think 4, but the 
PlayStation
>will be with us for at least another 2 years. 
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:18:21 PST

And the stellar Road Rash, no doubt. ( must mock trolls... :) )

elliot

>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:28:46 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/16/99 1:31:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
eljam@hotmail.com
>writes:
>
>> What multiple games are you talking about ?
>>  
>>  elliot
>
>probably bargan bin games like Rayman, Twisted Metal, Need For Speed 2. 
etc.
>
>ha. funny. no comment
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:23:28 PST

Like Dual Heros, GT, Clay Fighter 63 1/3 ?  Oops...wrong system

elliot


>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:00:12 -0600
>From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>"Crappy games"
>
>TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> In a message dated 1/16/99 12:03:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> 10039073@wsd1.org writes:
>> 
>> > I think for N64 2, whatever they call it, they should have 
cartridges that
>> >  can hold like 100 megs. Sony would be murdered!
>> >
>> >               Stone Cold Spencer
>> >
>> 
>> Yeah, that's put a dent in a 650 Meg CD. As for why so many people 
like the
>> PlayStation? No comment.
>> 
>> Trey
>> 
>> more games
>> 
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:32:52 PST

Aren't HAL and Hudson Soft related, or something ?

elliot


>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:54:36 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/15/99 8:50:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
eljam@hotmail.com
>writes:
>
>> True, but who has NCL used besides Rare and HAl ?  NCL rarely trusts 
>>  their property, i.e., Mario, Donkey Kong, et al., to outside 
>>  development.
>>  
>>  elliot
>
>Besides Rare & HAL there is Hudson Soft (Mario Party).
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] What if...?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:36:04 PST

Good question since the Deal had Sony getting a lion's share of the 
revenue...

elliot


>From: Davidxvx@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:33:49 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: [N64] What if...?
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>	The PSX was originally going to be an add-on for the SNES, right?  I 
wonder
>what have happened if that would have gone through?  Would Nintendo 
still be
>where they are now, or futher than they are now?
>
>--David
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 22:58:24 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 6:16:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

<<  I would we'll see sequals to that, but most 
 of the mascots on the systems are by third-party developers.  Spyro, 
 Croc, and Crash come to mind.
 
 elliot >>


	I thought Sony made crash?

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:38:27 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 8:58:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

> Rayman is a great platformer!
>  
>  Stryder

It was better on the Jaguar.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:44:07 EST

In a message dated 1/16/99 11:06:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> Yes, like that, but I'm betting we will see initial prices ranging between
>  $300 and $350.
>  
>  --David

Well it's gonna be competeing with a $99 PS & $99 N64. It wond be like in '95
with the Saturn versus PlayStation. The Dreamcast will have to have a low
price ($250 to $300) to avoid being another 3D0.

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64's life span
Date: 17 Jan 1999 22:48:29 -0600 (CST)


On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/16/99 8:58:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:
> 
> > Rayman is a great platformer!
> >  
> >  Stryder
> 
> It was better on the Jaguar.
> 
> Trey

Like I would own the Jag for a marginally better version of Rayman ;)


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:50:02 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 12:33:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tmcshea@earthlink.net writes:

> How about great games? 
> 

I thought this was a hardware discussion. Besides, even if the hardware isn't
well thought out Nintendo is sure to still make great games.

Trey

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Subject: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 17 Jan 1999 20:57:15 -0800

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system (Game Boy)
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:55:51 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 2:16:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> And more interaction with the Game Boy. There's very little use of the 64GB
>  Pak, and Nintenod has in that little handheld to mother of all VMSs.
>  
>  And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!
>  
>  ~Matt

I think there should be more interaction with the GBC on the N64. I remember
reading in N-Put (or was it N-Query?), well it was on IGN64 (or was it
N64.com?) Well regardless, there was a cool idea they had about hooking up a
Game Boy system to the N64 to use as a motion detector (ala Aliens) in a 1st
person shooter, now that would be cool.

Trey

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Subject: [N64] Nintendo 64's future
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:02:53 -0800

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From: "Eldon Siemens" <strafe@shaw.wave.ca>
Subject: RE: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:59:57 -0700

I've been watching this group for a long time and have noticed that when 
the next Nintendo system topic comes up, nobody mentions Mini-discs. MD 
would make a great storage device IMO, writability, same size as CD (650 
MB) and the little diskette type case. only problem i could see is price, 
as MD players are not cheap (yet)


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:59:19 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 2:59:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> >And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!
>  
>  Like?
>  

Wonder Project J2 maybe? The only N64 game so far that I've seen that should
be brought over here is Puyo Puyo Sun 64. But if that happened I know it'd be
Kirby's Avalanche 64. But I guess it wouldn't be that bad if I got to see Lolo
& Lala again.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:00:48 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 4:39:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> Well, not Nintendo per se, but have them publish more Japanese games here.
>  Nintendo didn't bring all the Final Fantasys here, and there are tons of 
> games
>  thta are Japan only that can be found in an decent game magazine.
>  
>  ~Matt

That was Square's decision, not Nintendo's.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:01:43 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 5:02:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> If you had to live with one game for the rest of your life, what would it
be. 
>  It could be on any Nintendo system, including handhelds.
>  -Sean
>  

Tetris on the Game Boy.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Fav RPG
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:03:40 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 6:48:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

> Speaking of which what is everyone's fav RPG????  Mine is earthbound 

Without a doubt; Xenogears. Chrono Trigger is a close second.

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: RE: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:05:01 -0600 (CST)

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Eldon Siemens wrote:

> I've been watching this group for a long time and have noticed that when 
> the next Nintendo system topic comes up, nobody mentions Mini-discs. MD 
> would make a great storage device IMO, writability, same size as CD (650 
> MB) and the little diskette type case. only problem i could see is price, 
> as MD players are not cheap (yet)

But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?

Stryder


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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:09:49 -0800

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I don't see MD as ever taking off.  It is expensive.  And it is also =
magnetic media which is older and has worse sound than CD.  DVD should =
be a reasonable media
-Sean
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:06:02 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 7:03:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

>  If there was a 1-button specail move, then the player could
>  assign which special move they want at that button before the fight, on a
>  small menu.
>  

One Button Special move? Doesn't sound very special to me.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Chrono Trigger
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:07:31 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 7:17:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> but CT only took me 28 I think.
>  
>  --David

How long did it take you to get all 13 endings?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Some N64 stuff.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:11:49 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 9:39:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> Aren't HAL and Hudson Soft related, or something ?
>  
>  elliot

Not that I know of, but I haven't been really following Hudson Soft since the
disapointing Bonk's Revenge. (Take out the "Bonk-Spin"?!?)

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Crash Bandicoot
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:16:11 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 11:23:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> I thought Sony made crash?
>  
>  --David

Nope. Crash Bandicoot 1-3 was developed by Naughty Dog and published by
Universal Interactive Software. Although Crash Bandicoot is the official
mascot for the PlayStation. Spyro The Dragon (an excellent platformer) was
developed by Insomniac and published by Universal Interactive Software. I
think Hasbro made Croc, but who cares?

Trey

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:19:18 PST

>What shape are DVD's now? I haven't seen one yet, but since DVD 
>players play CD's, I would assume they are the same shape? Are DVD's 
>just full disc, instead of the hollow center like CD's?

DVDs are the same shape as CDs I believe (I haven't seen one either).  
What I meant is that Nintendo can enlarge the hole in the middle of the 
DVD to make it physically impossible to play normal DVDs in the 
Nintendo-DVD.  The main reason that Nintendo didn't switch to CDs 
already is because they want to keep a firm control over the medium... 
in the N64's case, carts.  CDs are too easy for other companies (not to 
mention game piraters) to produce.  The extra-wide holes would enable 
Nintendo to maintain a unique medium that is difficult to mass-produce, 
and thus keep their ever-important jurisdiction over developers, and yet 
provide developers with the huge storage space they require nowadays.  
Add a quick-spinning spindle and multiple read-heads, and you eliminate 
the complaints from players about slow load times.  Cheap or free memory 
cards would solve the read-only problems.   Better yet, a built-in cheap 
hard drive (200 MB) could function as a memory card AND a 64DD-like 
device for writing huge amounts of changing game data (ΰ la Mother 64), 
in which case memory cards would be optional accessories for 
transporting saved data from one console to another.... which could also 
be done with a built-in high-speed modem.  Total cost, about $400 US for 
the ultimate gaming system, and about $25-$40 US for each game.

Would you buy it?...  Or at the very least, get somebody else to buy it 
for you? :)  I would.

Moblin 64

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:20:10 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 11:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> I played Dreamcast at my local videogame dealer.  It had Godzilla running on
> it.  I have to tell you, the game "fun" value was horible.  The graphics
were 
> more than decent, but nothing more than anything seen on a PC two years ago.
> The object of the game is to walk around stumbling through buildings.  
> Besides walking, all he can due is shoot out of his hands.  And the weapon 
> fire doesn't look all that great.  And the controller is uncomfortable and 
> awkward.  I am very glad I put off importing it the day it came out like I 
> was initially planning to.  Granted, this was one of the first games, I
would 
> think it would be slightly more entertaining.  When the world first saw N64 
> they played Mario 64.  And not one, sane, person said that was bad.  Has 
> anybody else had a chance to play another game.  Surely there must be at 
> least one game that is good out there.  
>  -Sean

Everybody & their grandmother knows that the only good Godzilla game was for
the NES. I have yet to see a Dreamcast. Where did you see it at?

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:21:16 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 8:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< I played Dreamcast at my local videogame dealer.  It had Godzilla running
on it.  I have to tell you, the game "fun" value was horible.  The graphics
were more than decent, but nothing more than anything seen on a PC two years
ago.  The object of the game is to walk around stumbling through buildings.
Besides walking, all he can due is shoot out of his hands.  And the weapon
fire doesn't look all that great.  And the controller is uncomfortable and
awkward.  I am very glad I put off importing it the day it came out like I was
initially planning to.  Granted, this was one of the first games, I would
think it would be slightly more entertaining.  When the world first saw N64
they played Mario 64.  And not one, sane, person said that was bad.  Has
anybody else had a chance to play another game.  Surely there must be at least
one game that is good out there.  
 -Sean
  >>

	I played Sonic Adventure at Blockbuster.  The graphics were really crisp, but
the play controll wasn't all that good.

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo 64's future is golden
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:23:44 EST

In a message dated 1/17/99 11:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> I was just wondering how many of you believe that the N64 has reached its 
> peak.  I believe that this will be the last year of the N64's success.

I believe you're smoking crack ;) The N64 still has about 4 more years in it.
The fact that the Dreamcast has entered the market is not a new thing. I've
seen this kind of thing before. Like when the 3D0 tried to break into the SNES
& Genesis market. 

Trey

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:29:20 -0800

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Game Zone about a mile from my house.  It kicks @$$.
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  In a message dated 1/17/99 11:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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  Everybody & their grandmother knows that the only good Godzilla game =
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  Trey

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo 64's future (not quite)
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:24:06 -0600

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I don't think the N64 is doing that bad, and from the way things look =
now, it's actually starting to pick up a little bit.  A lot of companies =
are starting to take a second look at the viability of the cartridge =
format, and match that with the graphical power of the N64.  Now...add =
in the 4MB Expansion Pak to use in whatever respect (ie. higher res =
graphics), and it seems that much more inviting.  Still, companies will =
be limited to the size of the cartridge, but we've seen what a little =
ingenuity can do so far (Nintendo with Zelda 64, Acclaim with Turok 2).  =


In my mind, the N64 is just starting to pick up speed now, after the =
small slowdown.  There's an increased amount of games, and an increased =
amount of developers.  I personally think that we may see more of the =
N64 now than we did in the past year.

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with Zelda 64, Acclaim with Turok 2).&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In my mind, the N64 is just starting to pick up speed now, after =
the small=20
slowdown.&nbsp; There's an increased amount of games, and an increased =
amount of=20
developers.&nbsp; I personally think that we may see more of the N64 now =
than we=20
did in the past year.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>-Ian Dickson</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Blasted_1 of the Black Hand<BR><A=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Sean McWherter &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net">Sean.McWherter@worldnet.a=
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    =
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<B>Date:=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I was just wondering how many of =
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will be=20
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:31:20 -0800

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I read on IGN64.co that the graphics were great, but the gameplay leaves =
something to be desired.  To bad, this could be the last chance Sega has =
at the console market.
-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Davidxvx@aol.com=20
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions


  In a message dated 1/17/99 8:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
  Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

  << I played Dreamcast at my local videogame dealer.  It had Godzilla =
running
  on it.  I have to tell you, the game "fun" value was horible.  The =
graphics
  were more than decent, but nothing more than anything seen on a PC two =
years
  ago.  The object of the game is to walk around stumbling through =
buildings.
  Besides walking, all he can due is shoot out of his hands.  And the =
weapon
  fire doesn't look all that great.  And the controller is uncomfortable =
and
  awkward.  I am very glad I put off importing it the day it came out =
like I was
  initially planning to.  Granted, this was one of the first games, I =
would
  think it would be slightly more entertaining.  When the world first =
saw N64
  they played Mario 64.  And not one, sane, person said that was bad.  =
Has
  anybody else had a chance to play another game.  Surely there must be =
at least
  one game that is good out there. =20
   -Sean
    >>

  I played Sonic Adventure at Blockbuster.  The graphics were really =
crisp, but
  the play controll wasn't all that good.

  --David

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were=20
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title=3DDavidxvx@aol.com>Davidxvx@aol.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:n64@lists.xmission.com"=20
  title=3Dn64@lists.xmission.com>n64@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:21 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>In a message dated 1/17/99 8:55:15 PM Pacific Standard=20
  Time,<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net">Sean.McWherter@worldnet.a=
tt.net</A>=20
  writes:<BR><BR>&lt;&lt; I played Dreamcast at my local videogame =
dealer.&nbsp;=20
  It had Godzilla running<BR>on it.&nbsp; I have to tell you, the game=20
  &quot;fun&quot; value was horible.&nbsp; The graphics<BR>were more =
than=20
  decent, but nothing more than anything seen on a PC two =
years<BR>ago.&nbsp;=20
  The object of the game is to walk around stumbling through=20
  buildings.<BR>Besides walking, all he can due is shoot out of his =
hands.&nbsp;=20
  And the weapon<BR>fire doesn't look all that great.&nbsp; And the =
controller=20
  is uncomfortable and<BR>awkward.&nbsp; I am very glad I put off =
importing it=20
  the day it came out like I was<BR>initially planning to.&nbsp; =
Granted, this=20
  was one of the first games, I would<BR>think it would be slightly more =

  entertaining.&nbsp; When the world first saw N64<BR>they played Mario=20
  64.&nbsp; And not one, sane, person said that was bad.&nbsp; =
Has<BR>anybody=20
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<BR>&nbsp;-Sean<BR>&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&gt;<BR><BR>I played Sonic Adventure at Blockbuster.&nbsp; The =
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:26:18 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:03:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
strafe@shaw.wave.ca writes:

> I've been watching this group for a long time and have noticed that when 
>  the next Nintendo system topic comes up, nobody mentions Mini-discs. MD 
>  would make a great storage device IMO, writability, same size as CD (650 
>  MB) and the little diskette type case. only problem i could see is price, 
>  as MD players are not cheap (yet)

Mostly because I think Nintendo would never use it. C'mon. When you hear
"Mini-Disc" what word springs to mind. For me it's "Sony", and I bet it's the
same for a lot of people. I don't think Nintendo would use a medium that is
associated most with their biggest rival.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:28:23 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:06:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> I don't see MD as ever taking off.  It is expensive.  And it is also
magnetic 
> media which is older and has worse sound than CD.  DVD should be a
reasonable 
> media
>  -Sean

My Mini-Discs sound just the same as CDs. 

Trey

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo 64's future is golden
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:33:36 -0800

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You mis-interpreted me.  I will stick with the N64 until death do us =
part.  Heck, I still have my NES, and SNES hooked up to my TV.  I just =
meant that this will be the last year that people will be anxous for a =
new game.  By all means, I hope it lasts longer, I love the system.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: TreyTable@aol.com=20
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo 64's future is golden


  In a message dated 1/17/99 11:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

  > I was just wondering how many of you believe that the N64 has =
reached its=20
  > peak.  I believe that this will be the last year of the N64's =
success.

  I believe you're smoking crack ;) The N64 still has about 4 more years =
in it.
  The fact that the Dreamcast has entered the market is not a new thing. =
I've
  seen this kind of thing before. Like when the 3D0 tried to break into =
the SNES
  & Genesis market.=20

  Trey

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NES, and=20
SNES hooked up to my TV.&nbsp; I just meant that this will be the last =
year that=20
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lasts=20
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  href=3D"mailto:TreyTable@aol.com" =
title=3DTreyTable@aol.com>TreyTable@aol.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:n64@lists.xmission.com"=20
  title=3Dn64@lists.xmission.com>n64@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:23 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [N64] Nintendo 64's future is =
golden</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>In a message dated 1/17/99 11:59:05 PM Eastern Standard =

  Time,<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net">Sean.McWherter@worldnet.a=
tt.net</A>=20
  writes:<BR><BR>&gt; I was just wondering how many of you believe that =
the N64=20
  has reached its <BR>&gt; peak.&nbsp; I believe that this will be the =
last year=20
  of the N64's success.<BR><BR>I believe you're smoking crack ;) The N64 =
still=20
  has about 4 more years in it.<BR>The fact that the Dreamcast has =
entered the=20
  market is not a new thing. I've<BR>seen this kind of thing before. =
Like when=20
  the 3D0 tried to break into the SNES<BR>&amp; Genesis market.=20
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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] No DVD for next system!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 23:28:48 -0600

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What is all the hype about DVD for the next system?  I personally don't =
see why anyone in their right mind would want that.  Why?  Think of how =
long it takes companies to produce quality games on CD and cartridge =
format.  DVD has SO much extra space than both of those put together.  =
With that much space, games will take so much longer to create.  And =
would it be viable for the system itself?  No..not really.  Nintendo =
initially had problems with the N64 and getting games out due to their =
quality control.  Think of how bad it would be with DVD?!

I say...DVD is good enough for movies.  Let something else handle games =
instead!

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<DIV>What is all the hype about DVD for the next system?&nbsp; I =
personally=20
don't see why anyone in their right mind would want that.&nbsp; =
Why?&nbsp; Think=20
of how long it takes companies to produce quality games on CD and =
cartridge=20
format.&nbsp; DVD has SO much extra space than both of those put =
together.&nbsp;=20
With that much space, games will take so much longer to create.&nbsp; =
And would=20
it be viable for the system itself?&nbsp; No..not really.&nbsp; Nintendo =

initially had problems with the N64 and getting games out due to their =
quality=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>I say...DVD is good enough for movies.&nbsp; =
Let=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:30:07 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:20:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
moblin@hotmail.com writes:

>  The main reason that Nintendo didn't switch to CDs 
>  already is because they want to keep a firm control over the medium... 
>  in the N64's case, carts.

That whole thing of paying royalties to Sony was another reason.

Trey

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impressions
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:30:58 EST

Just hold up for the American release. I'm extremely skeptical after the
lackluster performance in Japan, but I'll pass judgement when fall '99 comes.
They seem to be faring alright with developers, but they seem to have
forgotten one small thing: consumers. 

!!

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] No DVD for next system!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:38:28 -0800

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You don't have to use all the space.  But if they did, that would be =
cool.  Remember, as video game systems progress, so do devoloping =
technologies=3Dfaster developement.
-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ian Dickson=20
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:28 PM
  Subject: [N64] No DVD for next system!


  What is all the hype about DVD for the next system?  I personally =
don't see why anyone in their right mind would want that.  Why?  Think =
of how long it takes companies to produce quality games on CD and =
cartridge format.  DVD has SO much extra space than both of those put =
together.  With that much space, games will take so much longer to =
create.  And would it be viable for the system itself?  No..not really.  =
Nintendo initially had problems with the N64 and getting games out due =
to their quality control.  Think of how bad it would be with DVD?!

  I say...DVD is good enough for movies.  Let something else handle =
games instead!

  Ian Dickson
  Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
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title=3Dashamanx@cableregina.com>Ian=20
  Dickson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:n64@lists.xmission.com"=20
  title=3Dn64@lists.xmission.com>n64@lists.xmission.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:28 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [N64] No DVD for next system!</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>What is all the hype about DVD for the next system?&nbsp; I =
personally=20
  don't see why anyone in their right mind would want that.&nbsp; =
Why?&nbsp;=20
  Think of how long it takes companies to produce quality games on CD =
and=20
  cartridge format.&nbsp; DVD has SO much extra space than both of those =
put=20
  together.&nbsp; With that much space, games will take so much longer =
to=20
  create.&nbsp; And would it be viable for the system itself?&nbsp; =
No..not=20
  really.&nbsp; Nintendo initially had problems with the N64 and getting =
games=20
  out due to their quality control.&nbsp; Think of how bad it would be =
with=20
  DVD?!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>I say...DVD is good enough for =
movies.&nbsp; Let=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:34:18 EST

My finger is getting rather tired of clicking delete each time this thread
comes around...I just hope you all realize the medium makes no difference
ultimately. It's all about the software. Yeah, yeah, cartridge is 'inferior'.
So's Tomb Raider. That's my spiel on mediums:-)

!!

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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:40:12 -0800

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I was thinking of getting the Dex Drive.  A question I had was whether =
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo's next medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:34:57 EST

I think Nintendo should use Zip Disks for their next system. They hold a lot
of memoryand are easy to copy. Besides, most of my N64 games are on Zip disks.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:39:21 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:36:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> I was thinking of getting the Dex Drive.  A question I had was whether or
not 
> anybody else would so that we could trade saves.
>  -Sean
>  
> 

I was going to get an N64 Dex Drive until I realized that the only game that I
have that uses a memory Perk is Blast Corps. I defiantly getting one for the
PlayStation though.

Trey

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] No DVD for next system!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:41:54 PST

>What is all the hype about DVD for the next system?  I personally 
>don't see why anyone in their right mind would want that.  Why?  
>Think of how long it takes companies to produce quality games on CD 
>and cartridge format.  DVD has SO much extra space than both of 
>those put together.  With that much space, games will take so much 
>longer to create.  And would it be viable for the system itself?  
>
>No..not really.  Nintendo initially had problems with the N64 and 
>getting games out due to their quality control.  Think of how bad it 
>would be with DVD?!
>
>I say...DVD is good enough for movies.  Let something else handle 
>games instead!

First of all, Zelda 64 is 32 megabytes... CDs each hold 650 megabytes.  
FFVII (PSX's equivilent of Zelda) was 3 CDs large.  By YOUR 
calculations, we wouldn't have seen FFVII until long after the year 2057 
because it is 60 times bigger than Zelda.  The extra space is used for 
larger envirnments, more textures, and most of all, videos and audio 
(music too, not just sound effects).  Some people say that bigger is 
worse, but knowing Nintendo, they could make it work.

Also, I think that as of South Park 64, Nintendo is loosening up on 
their strict guidelines for "Pure Family Fun" or whatever BS they call 
it.

Moblin 64

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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [N64] Bond game
Date: 18 Jan 1999 10:50:56 +0000


Does anyone know when the next bond movie is being
 shown in the cinemas? It strikes me that surely the game
will be released around the same time. Otherwise you lose all that
hype and free advertising. So maybe the next generation of
Nintendo is around the corner and not 4 years away...




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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 18 Jan 1999 08:44:16 -0500

Well, I have heard infinite opinions that Godzilla blows.  But a couple
of my friends who imported the Dreamcast play it for Sonic Adventures,
VF tb, and Sega Rally which is coming out next week.

Sean McWherter wrote:

>   I played Dreamcast at my local videogame dealer.  It had Godzilla
> running on it.  I have to tell you, the game "fun" value was horible.
> The graphics were more than decent, but nothing more than anything
> seen on a PC two years ago.  The object of the game is to walk around
> stumbling through buildings.  Besides walking, all he can due is shoot
> out of his hands.  And the weapon fire doesn't look all that great.
> And the controller is uncomfortable and awkward.  I am very glad I put
> off importing it the day it came out like I was initially planning
> to.  Granted, this was one of the first games, I would think it would
> be slightly more entertaining.  When the world first saw N64 they
> played Mario 64.  And not one, sane, person said that was bad.  Has
> anybody else had a chance to play another game.  Surely there must be
> at least one game that is good out there.-Sean




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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] Prelude of Light
Date: 18 Jan 1999 09:01:00 -0500

     Maybe I do have the Prelude of light, because I did finish the 
forest temple already. I am at work when I post to this list, so I 
don't have access to my stuff. By the way the warp to the forest 
worked, and I was able to get my things back and went right back and 
killed the dragon. Thanks to everyone for the help!!!!!

Russ

______________________________ Reply Separator ___Subject: Re: [N64] Prelude
of 
Light
Author:  "TreyTable@aol.com" [SMTP:TreyTable@aol.com] at HRCC-EXCHANGE

In a message dated 1/15/99 2:32:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Davidxvx@aol.com 
writes:

> Don't you learn the Prelude of Light right after you enter the Temple of 
Time
>  as Adult Link?
>
>  --David

You learn the Prelude of Light from Sheik after you beat the Forest Temple.
So 
Russ may have just gotten the Fairy Bow from the Forest Temple and then 
decided to beat the Fire Temple first.. Why? I don't know.

Trey

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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: [N64] N64 Import: Mario Party
Date: 18 Jan 1999 09:46:25 EST

Since we've been talking about the Dreamcast import, how 'bout the N64's
latest, greatest import game: Mario Party. Has anyone played the game yet, and
if so, what's it like?   ---Brian (TheBump@aol.com)

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From: Jason Wade <jwade2@coventry.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Import: Mario Party
Date: 18 Jan 1999 14:52:57 GMT

I've read reviews of this in the uk magazines.  It reckons its quite good, but american views
would be quite good.  Anyone?



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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Import: Mario Party
Date: 18 Jan 1999 09:56:06 -0500

I have.  Let's just say it is pretty much impossible if you don't speak Japanese.
I screwed around with it for a half hour one day and didnt get anywhere.

TheBump@aol.com wrote:

> Since we've been talking about the Dreamcast import, how 'bout the N64's
> latest, greatest import game: Mario Party. Has anyone played the game yet, and
> if so, what's it like?   ---Brian (TheBump@aol.com)
>
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:07:18 EST

Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to aquire the
technology somehow, thoguh.

~Matt

<<But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?

Stryder>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:11:30 EST

Yeah, me either. But the way the game (Smash Brothers) is shaping up, it seems
that since your objective is to knock the othe rplayer down, a projectile
weapon can be shot at the push of a button. It sounds like that to me, anyway.

~Matt

<<One Button Special move? Doesn't sound very special to me.

Trey>>

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From: Turbo409@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda qeustion: Need help on Jabu-Jabu belly level
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:19:22 EST

I'm stuck on this level.  Any help would be appreciated.  How do I get to the
Boss.  What does the princess want to find?
Thanks

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] Ice and Fire Arrows?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:48:04 -0600

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] [Fwd: [UL] Secret South Park video]
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:18:03 -0700

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Hi all,
	I saw on the news this morning that the EA Sports computer game "Tiger
Woods Golf 99" for the Playstation contains a hidden file.  Put that CD ROm
in the Playstation and all is normal.  But put that CD in a PC, and a
strangely named file will show up.  Run that file and you'll get a 20 minue
obscene "South Park" pilot video.  The EA sports people are recalling the
game, admitting the file is there, and claiming no knowledge of how it got
there.

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From:         Mike Lohrey <mlohrey@IMAGINEGAMES.COM>
Subject: [N64] IGN PRESS PASS
Date: 15 Jan 1999 18:08:24 -0600

IGN PRESS PASS            Today's date: Jan. 15, 1999
_____________________________________________________


CONTENTS:

1. EDITOR'S NOTE
2. PC TOP STORIES
   * TEST DRIVE: OFF-ROAD 2
   * THE LONGEST JOURNEY
   * LAND OF LORE III
3. N64 TOP STORIES
   * BEETLE ADVENTURE RACING
   * NOW PLAYING, VOLUME 1
   * N64 DEXDRIVE READY TO GO
4. PSX TOP STORIES
   * UNJAMMER RAMI TAKES THE STAGE
   * TONY HAWK SKATES TO THE TOP
   * READER REACTION: PLAYSTATION "STEP TWO"
5. DREAMCAST TOP STORIES
   * SEGA WEB RELAUNCHED
   * SEGA RALLY 2 TV ADVERT
   * NEW D2 AND SHEN MUE MOVIES
6. GAMER'S LIFESTYLE
7. AFFILIATE NEWS
8. GAMESTORE

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TEST DRIVE: OFF-ROAD 2
Test Drive goes off road alright - and ends up smashing into a big ol' tree

The Test Drive series is one of the best-selling and most venerable racing
series on the PC. In an effort to expand the series, Accolade has moved off
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but in reality Test Drive: Off Road 2 is a soulless racer that offers
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THE LONGEST JOURNEY
Between the worlds of science and magic there lies a mystery

The game's backgrounds are pre-rendered landscapes done in 2D on your
screen, but the foreground objects, the characters and the items, are done
in 3D, with high polygon-count lead characters. Special effects such as
colored lighting and moving shadows will add to the game's ambience, and
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http://pc.ign.com/previews/10848.html


LAND OF LORE III
Westwood prepares to spin out their next high concept fantasy tale

The game's storyline is pretty compelling stuff. You take on the role of
Copper LeGre, the offspring of Eric LeGre (who is the brother of the king)
and a Dracoid serving maid. Although you have spent you life being reviled
because of your "half-breed" status by the people of the village, the fact
that you have some noble blood has kept you safe from any actual harm...
http://pc.ign.com/previews/10827.html


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                   N64 TOP STORIES
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BEETLE ADVENTURE RACING
IGN64 goes hands-on with EA's VW racer. Get the low-down on the tracks, the
battle mode, and more

Beetle Adventure Racing takes the exploration and no-holds-barred level
design from games like Banjo-Kazooie and mixes everything with the
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to jump into your own car and race through Disney World -- without having
to pay if anything breaks...
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/10070.html


NOW PLAYING, VOLUME 1
IGN64 editors Peer and Matt discuss what games they are currently playing
across all platforms

Working as editors of a Nintendo 64-oriented videogame website means living
nothing but Nintendo 64 eight hours of the day. And believe it or not, that
also means researching and writing about some games we would prefer not to.
After work, though, we're free to do as we please -- play as we please --
and we've got a whole library of software that's sure to please...
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6427.html


N64 DEXDRIVE READY TO GO
Interact's highly useful N64 peripheral is complete and will ship this month

The DexDrive, a peripheral designed to work with Nintendo 64 Memory Paks in
order to download and upload saved games across the Internet, is complete.
According to Interact, the product's manufacturer, it will ship to stores
beginning January 24 at a price point of $39.95. Find out more about this
baby at
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6431.html


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                   PSX TOP STORIES
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UNJAMMER RAMI TAKES THE STAGE
Sony releases the first official pictures from its Parappa the Rapper
sequel, and we've got 'em

Looking like she just stepped out of one of Tokyo's trendy Harijuku
boutiques, Unjammer Rami is the well-dressed (we imagine that's a G-Shock
watch she's wearing) and rightful successor to the lovable Parappa the
Rapper. The teenage rock star wannabe comes into the spotlight in this
first set of screens from the game, as featured in the latest issue of
Weekly Famitsu. Check out the imagines at
http://psx.ign.com/news/6424.html


TONY HAWK SKATES TO THE TOP
World renowned skateboard champion Tony Hawk consults on new skateboarding
game

With several modes of play, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater features unexplored
avenues in skateboarding games. Sporting a sophisticated trick and combo
system enabling players to pull off hundreds of combinations of radical
moves and death-defying stunts, skaters can take on real-world tracks with
the speed and agility, and locate secret areas, shortcuts and hard-to-reach
spots. Don't miss our full new story for more info!
http://psx.ign.com/news/6435.html


READER REACTION: PLAYSTATION "STEP TWO"
'Please don't stiff us' cry those content to wait for Sony's true
next-generation hardware

Overall reaction to this Monday's unearthing of details on Sony's secret
"stop gap" PlayStation console has been decidedly negative. It's obvious
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its true next-generation hardware is top-notch, and don't want to be
stiffed by the introduction of new hardware only to be hit with another,
even better system just a matter of months later.  We received an
absolutely mammoth response to the story, and what you'll see is a good
cross-section of what our in-boxes were loaded with...
http://psx.ign.com/news/6426.html


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                DREAMCAST TOP STORIES
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SEGA WEB RELAUNCHED
The unstoppable service begins...

It's a saucy tale of desperate desire and seething sumptuosity. Oooo la la!
Well, no. It's actually a story about the relaunch of one of IGN's
affiliate sites, Sega Web.  And let me tell you friends, this ain't no new
coat of paint on the old barnyard. We're talking big-time changes
definitely worth taking a look at. So, quit your grinnin' an drop your
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first time you feast your eyes on quality footage of the new and improved
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NEW D2 AND SHEN MUE MOVIES
Some great new D2 and Shen Mue movie captures have hit the net, and we've
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development, Lore III has been on the low-key side. The Vault Network's
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From: "Michael Eaton" <nintendopal@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] Going Away
Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:31:28 PST

I'm Unsubsc*ibing to the list for a little bit. Intil I find how to do 
something in Hotmail. And I have 3 web Pages I need to work on.
Trey, You look diffrent then I thought you wood, <snicker>  ;).

Michael
<a 
href="http://members.tripod.com/~nintendopa1/index.html/">Hacker-Org</a><br>
Working on it... ( Nintendo 64 Linkz)
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From: Garrett Winters <gargoyle@iol.ie>
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 18 Jan 1999 19:49:18 +0000

>
Sean McWherter writes
>If you had to live with one game for the rest of your life, what would it 
>be.  It could be on any Nintendo system, including handhelds.
as it has to be a nintendo game I would have to say Goldeneye

Garrett

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 14:58:16 -0500

Um.. if you widen the hole in DVD's, then you are losing data space, so y=
ou
will not be able to store as much information.


>>What shape are DVD's now? I haven't seen one yet, but since DVD
>>players play CD's, I would assume they are the same shape? Are DVD's
>>just full disc, instead of the hollow center like CD's?
>
>DVDs are the same shape as CDs I believe (I haven't seen one either).
>What I meant is that Nintendo can enlarge the hole in the middle of the
>DVD to make it physically impossible to play normal DVDs in the
>Nintendo-DVD.  The main reason that Nintendo didn't switch to CDs
>already is because they want to keep a firm control over the medium...
>in the N64's case, carts.  CDs are too easy for other companies (not to
>mention game piraters) to produce.  The extra-wide holes would enable
>Nintendo to maintain a unique medium that is difficult to mass-produce,
>and thus keep their ever-important jurisdiction over developers, and yet
>provide developers with the huge storage space they require nowadays.
>Add a quick-spinning spindle and multiple read-heads, and you eliminate
>the complaints from players about slow load times.  Cheap or free memory
>cards would solve the read-only problems.   Better yet, a built-in cheap
>hard drive (200 MB) could function as a memory card AND a 64DD-like
>device for writing huge amounts of changing game data (=E0 la Mother 64)=
,
>in which case memory cards would be optional accessories for
>transporting saved data from one console to another.... which could also
>be done with a built-in high-speed modem.  Total cost, about $400 US for
>the ultimate gaming system, and about $25-$40 US for each game.
>
>Would you buy it?...  Or at the very least, get somebody else to buy it
>for you? :)  I would.
>
>Moblin 64



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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 14:57:12 -0500


Yeah, but Phillips licenses the technology from Sony. I seriously doubt that
Sony would license their own technology to a competing company.

Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data on a
small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame format.

>Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to aquire
the
>technology somehow, thoguh.
>
>~Matt
>
><<But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?
>
>Stryder>>
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:16:13 PST

Sony did have a hand in creating the mini-disc, so those companies are 
probably paying some type of licensing fees or royalties, which Nintendo 
would probably have to do as well.  Besides, I think NCL's too 'proud' 
to use a medium developed by one of their main competitors.

elliot


>From: Bastion007@aol.com
>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:07:18 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to 
aquire the
>technology somehow, thoguh.
>
>~Matt
>
><<But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?
>
>Stryder>>
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 15:22:28 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:17:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
eljam@hotmail.com writes:

<< Sony did have a hand in creating the mini-disc, so those companies are 
 probably paying some type of licensing fees or royalties, which Nintendo 
 would probably have to do as well.  Besides, I think NCL's too 'proud' 
 to use a medium developed by one of their main competitors.
 
 elliot
  >>

	Also, why would you want to share your profits with a competitor???

--David

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:24:14 PST

But, don't N64 carts use compression as well ?  Seems like I remember 
reading that Zelda uses compression somewhere.

Elliot


>From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
>To: <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:57:12 -0500
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>
>Yeah, but Phillips licenses the technology from Sony. I seriously doubt 
that
>Sony would license their own technology to a competing company.
>
>Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data 
on a
>small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame 
format.
>
>>Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to 
aquire
>the
>>technology somehow, thoguh.
>>
>>~Matt
>>
>><<But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?
>>
>>Stryder>>
>>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 15:15:17 -0600

Of course it uses compression or else there'd be no way to fit that
entire game into that tiny cart.

Elliot Jefferson wrote:
> 
> But, don't N64 carts use compression as well ?  Seems like I remember
> reading that Zelda uses compression somewhere.
> 
> Elliot
> 
> >From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
> >To: <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> >Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
> >Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:57:12 -0500
> >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> >
> >
> >Yeah, but Phillips licenses the technology from Sony. I seriously doubt
> that
> >Sony would license their own technology to a competing company.
> >
> >Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data
> on a
> >small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame
> format.
> >
> >>Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to
> aquire
> >the
> >>technology somehow, thoguh.
> >>
> >>~Matt
> >>
> >><<But doesn't Sony own the rights to MD?
> >>
> >>Stryder>>
> >>
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From: Tim Ballard <psu19083@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: [N64] Rogue Squadron Bonus Levels
Date: 18 Jan 1999 13:17:32 -0800 (PST)

I was just wondering what's so great about the Hoth bonus level in Rogue
Squadron.  I have the game and haven't beat it yet, but I was just
wondering why the Death Star level is not the hardest level to access
(getting all gold medals).  It seems odd to me to make the main bonus
level a level that we have already played two or three years ago.  Is it
any different than the level from Shadows of the Empire?  Thanks.

                                                 Tim


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] Re: dvdz and new games format.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:57:50 GMT-4

 Dvds are the same shape and the same size of normal cd's.
Then, why does it fit more info on it?
First, The laser accessing the info is smaller in diameter, so the 
tracks are more thin, so more tracks.
Second, there is more than one thickness of tracks, and the laser 
just focus to the stack of tracks wanted.


And for a new Nintendo System, some cartridge-disk drive combo 
would'nt be usefull.
The game should be on a disk, more than 64M like the 64 would be...
They can make disks that can hold 2 gigs of info,) check the jaz 
drive from iomega).  A game could use 1.9 gig of game code, and 100 
meg for saving data...



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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:00:07 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:12:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> Nah. Phillips Magnavox has a MD player, too. Nintendo would have to aquire 
> the
>  technology somehow, though
>  
>  ~Matt

I think that there are 10 companies that bown the rights to the CD, MD, LD, &
DVD technology. Although the only ones I can remember are Sony,
Phillips/Magnavox, Toshiba and Matshushita.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Import: Mario Party
Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:55:58 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 9:47:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, TheBump@aol.com
writes:

> Since we've been talking about the Dreamcast import, how 'bout the N64's
>  latest, greatest import game: Mario Party. Has anyone played the game yet, 
> and
>  if so, what's it like?   ---Brian 

Now why would somebody import Mario Party? Isn't the game coming out next
month in America?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda qeustion: Need help on Jabu-Jabu belly level
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:02:03 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Turbo409@aol.com
writes:

> I'm stuck on this level.  Any help would be appreciated.  How do I get to
the
>  Boss.  What does the princess want to find?
>  Thanks

Go to www.gamefaqs.com and find a walkthrough.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Ice and Fire Arrows?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:05:55 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:50:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ashamanx@cableregina.com writes:

> How do you get these dumb arrows?  
>  
>  -Ian Dickson

The Ice Arrow is in the Guerdo Fortress Training Ground (in the Guerdo
Fortress) and the Fire Arrow can be gotten by firing an arrow at the sunrise
standing on the island that the Water Temple is under. For more details read
the carved stone  next to the tree on the island.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:09:14 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 3:25:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> Also, why would you want to share your profits with a competitor???
>  
>  --David

Then there's Wipe Out 64. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron Bonus Levels
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:13:02 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 4:18:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
psu19083@odin.cc.pdx.edu writes:

> I was just wondering what's so great about the Hoth bonus level in Rogue
>  Squadron.  I have the game and haven't beat it yet, but I was just
>  wondering why the Death Star level is not the hardest level to access
>  (getting all gold medals).  It seems odd to me to make the main bonus
>  level a level that we have already played two or three years ago.  Is it
>  any different than the level from Shadows of the Empire?  Thanks.
>  
>                                                   Tim

That's because the Death Star level is stupid. Actually it's more along the
lines of insulting. Maybe the creators of Rogue Squadron saw a different Star
Wars than I did, because I never saw 90 degree turns in the trench. and when
you destroy the DS there isn't even a cutscene of the explosion. The Battle of
Hoth on the other hand is great. But my favorite bonus level is the AT-ST
level. Too bad there were no Ewoks to shoot at.

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: dvdz and new games format.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:22:01 -0600

Hmmm... What about that DD feature (which I was really hoping for) where
almost all of it could be writable.  For instance in EB64 EVERYTHING you
did was recorded and saved and there were like 20 different ways you
could beat the game making almost unlimited replay value (who's actually
going to beat an RPG 20 times??!!!!! But if its different I guess I
would).  I still say the DD was the best thing that ~could~ have
happened to Nintendo.

STEPHANE QUIMPERE wrote:
> 
>  Dvds are the same shape and the same size of normal cd's.
> Then, why does it fit more info on it?
> First, The laser accessing the info is smaller in diameter, so the
> tracks are more thin, so more tracks.
> Second, there is more than one thickness of tracks, and the laser
> just focus to the stack of tracks wanted.
> 
> And for a new Nintendo System, some cartridge-disk drive combo
> would'nt be usefull.
> The game should be on a disk, more than 64M like the 64 would be...
> They can make disks that can hold 2 gigs of info,) check the jaz
> drive from iomega).  A game could use 1.9 gig of game code, and 100
> meg for saving data...
> 
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> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: dvdz and new games format.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:24:38 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 2:20:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< Hmmm... What about that DD feature (which I was really hoping for) where
 almost all of it could be writable.  For instance in EB64 EVERYTHING you
 did was recorded and saved and there were like 20 different ways you
 could beat the game making almost unlimited replay value (who's actually
 going to beat an RPG 20 times??!!!!! But if its different I guess I
 would).  I still say the DD was the best thing that ~could~ have
 happened to Nintend >>


	I agree.  I really hope the DD goes over great in Japan so they'll bring it
here.  It would open up a lot of new possibilities for th 64.  Square even
said they might develop some stuff for Nintendo again.

--David

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 16 Jan 1999 22:33:02 -0800

I'd be surprised if the price is that high.  A $350
system would be very hard to sell, especially
with the Dreamcast coming out at around $220.
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/16/99 4:43:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
TreyTable@aol.com
>writes:
>
><< Like a system with a 128-Bit graphics engine that runs at 200 MHz? I
think
> that will cost about $250 when it hits the States later this year. Not
that
> expensive...
>
> Trey >>
>
> Yes, like that, but I'm betting we will see initial prices ranging between
>$300 and $350.
>
>--David
>
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Living with one game
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:33:30 -0600

That's exactly what I would say. But when B-a-M 3 comes out, it might take
away GE007 for multiplayer

		Stone Cold Spencer

>Do I have friends to play with? Then GoldenEye 007.
>
>If I could only play alone, then I'd have to say Tetris.
>
>~Matt



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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] Castlevania 64
Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:49:27 -0700

Software Etc. (aka Babbages) will be carrying this game for $49.99

Greg

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast first impresions
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:03:24 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Wes Day (Wezzer) wrote:

> Well, I have heard infinite opinions that Godzilla blows.  But a couple
> of my friends who imported the Dreamcast play it for Sonic Adventures,
> VF tb, and Sega Rally which is coming out next week.

Really, what is all this stuff with bashing the Dreamcast based on
Godzilla??  A game that is not even a high profile title.  I was wondering
the exact same thing.

Stryder


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:22:07 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:

> Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data on a
> small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame format.

There have been rumors off and on that the PSX2 might use MD as 'memory
cards'.

Stryder


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron Bonus Levels
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:25:27 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Tim Ballard wrote:

> I was just wondering what's so great about the Hoth bonus level in Rogue
> Squadron.  I have the game and haven't beat it yet, but I was just
> wondering why the Death Star level is not the hardest level to access
> (getting all gold medals).  It seems odd to me to make the main bonus
> level a level that we have already played two or three years ago.  Is it
> any different than the level from Shadows of the Empire?  Thanks.

It was most people's favorite level though...and it does look alot
different from the SOTE version.  I think the main reason why the Trench
Run is not the hardest level is because it is a rather plain level.  You
just fly down a straight path and shoot guns...not much to it really.

Stryder


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron Bonus Levels
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:29:18 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> That's because the Death Star level is stupid. Actually it's more along the
> lines of insulting. Maybe the creators of Rogue Squadron saw a different Star
> Wars than I did, because I never saw 90 degree turns in the trench. and when

I would not call it insulting, but I did wonder why there those 90 degree
turns.  Maybe they are there to help you keep track of how far you have
gone in the level?  I have no idea really.

> you destroy the DS there isn't even a cutscene of the explosion. The Battle of

That does suck.

Stryder


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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 18:30:26 PST

I read that in EGM about 2-3 months ago.  The article also mentioned 
they were looking at making the psx2 aa DVD-MD combo.  Considering how 
much players for both of these systems cost, I don't think we'll be 
seeing anything like this soon. Personally, I think Sony will stay with 
memory cards, but make them bigger.  I can't see them giving up the 
peofit they make off memory cars, even if it's very small.  

elliot


>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:22:07 -0600 (CST)
>From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
>
>> Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data 
on a
>> small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame 
format.
>
>There have been rumors off and on that the PSX2 might use MD as 'memory
>cards'.
>
>Stryder
>
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 18 Jan 1999 18:31:43 PST

I read that in EGM about 2-3 months ago.  The article also mentioned 
they were looking at making the psx2 as a DVD-MD combo.  Considering how 
much players for both of these systems cost, I don't think we'll be 
seeing anything like this soon. Personally, I think Sony will stay with 
memory cards, but make them bigger.  I can't see them giving up the 
profit they make off memory cards, even if it's very small.  By then, 
the game saves on next-gen systems probably will be larger than they are 
now anyway.    

elliot


>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:22:07 -0600 (CST)
>From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:
>
>> Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data 
on a
>> small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a videogame 
format.
>
>There have been rumors off and on that the PSX2 might use MD as 'memory
>cards'.
>
>Stryder
>
>
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From: oseannyboy@juno.com (Sean M Fernandez)
Subject: [N64] Hidden Courses in DKR
Date: 18 Jan 1999 18:41:57 -0800

Can someone please tell me how to get the hidden courses in DKR? And
also, what does the T.T. Amulet do for you? Help would be appreciated.


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:45:19 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 6:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
writes:

> That's exactly what I would say. But when B-a-M 3 comes out, it might take
>  away GE007 for multiplayer
>  
>  		Stone Cold Spencer

Bust A Move 3 isn't coming out for the N64. Well, not as with the 3. Since
Natsume got the license for BAM 4 from Taito for the PlayStation they released
it before Acclaim released BAM 3 for the N64, which they had the license for
for over a year, so Acclaim is calling BAM 3 for the N64 "Bust A Move '99".
Although I don't know what the big deal is since Bust A Move 3 has been out
for a while on the Saturn.

So here's my known list of Bust A Move games. Mind you I'm talking about the
American name for Puzzle Bobble, not what is known as Bust A Groove in
America.

Bust A Move 2 - PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Saturn, Neo-Geo
Bust A Move 3 - Saturn
Bust A Move '99 - Nintendo 64
Bust A Move 4 - PlayStation

Did I miss any? And am I to assume that the mysterious Bust A Move 1 is none
other than the classic Bubble Bobble?

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Shadowman
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:52:58 -0600

Looking at the recent 20 screenshots at IGN64 I am sorry to say that I
am very unimpressed with Shadowman.  The textures and pictures are
blurry and hard to see and they are all EXTREMELY dark.  What does
everyone else think?

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:54:31 -0600

I was the best at Bubble Bobble!!!!  That was the 3rd game I ever got on
my old Nintendo (now THAT'S when gaming was all about fun right?).

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/18/99 6:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
> writes:
> 
> > That's exactly what I would say. But when B-a-M 3 comes out, it might take
> >  away GE007 for multiplayer
> >
> >               Stone Cold Spencer
> 
> Bust A Move 3 isn't coming out for the N64. Well, not as with the 3. Since
> Natsume got the license for BAM 4 from Taito for the PlayStation they released
> it before Acclaim released BAM 3 for the N64, which they had the license for
> for over a year, so Acclaim is calling BAM 3 for the N64 "Bust A Move '99".
> Although I don't know what the big deal is since Bust A Move 3 has been out
> for a while on the Saturn.
> 
> So here's my known list of Bust A Move games. Mind you I'm talking about the
> American name for Puzzle Bobble, not what is known as Bust A Groove in
> America.
> 
> Bust A Move 2 - PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Saturn, Neo-Geo
> Bust A Move 3 - Saturn
> Bust A Move '99 - Nintendo 64
> Bust A Move 4 - PlayStation
> 
> Did I miss any? And am I to assume that the mysterious Bust A Move 1 is none
> other than the classic Bubble Bobble?
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania 64
Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:53:09 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 6:52:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gregorys@xmission.com writes:

> Software Etc. (AKA Babbages) will be carrying this game for $49.99
>  
>  Greg

That's odd. The Software ETC. in Erie, PA is charging $54.99 for Castlevania.
What is the location of the store that you saw it for $49.99? The strange
thing is Toys R. Us is charging $59.99 for Castlevania...

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Shadowman
Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:57:25 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 9:51:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

> Looking at the recent 20 screenshots at IGN64 I am sorry to say that I
>  am very unimpressed with Shadowman.  The textures and pictures are
>  blurry and hard to see and they are all EXTREMELY dark.  What does
>  everyone else think?

I don't know. Haven't seen it yet, how does it look compared to Silent Hill?

Trey

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 18 Jan 1999 22:11:40 +0000

> From:          TreyTable@aol.com
> Date:          Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:45:19 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> In a message dated 1/18/99 6:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
> writes:
> 
> > That's exactly what I would say. But when B-a-M 3 comes out, it might take
> >  away GE007 for multiplayer
> >  
> >  		Stone Cold Spencer
> 
> Bust A Move 3 isn't coming out for the N64. Well, not as with the 3. Since
> Natsume got the license for BAM 4 from Taito for the PlayStation they released
> it before Acclaim released BAM 3 for the N64, which they had the license for
> for over a year, so Acclaim is calling BAM 3 for the N64 "Bust A Move '99".
> Although I don't know what the big deal is since Bust A Move 3 has been out
> for a while on the Saturn.
> 
> So here's my known list of Bust A Move games. Mind you I'm talking about the
> American name for Puzzle Bobble, not what is known as Bust A Groove in
> America.
> 
> Bust A Move 2 - PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Saturn, Neo-Geo
> Bust A Move 3 - Saturn
> Bust A Move '99 - Nintendo 64
> Bust A Move 4 - PlayStation
> 
> Did I miss any? And am I to assume that the mysterious Bust A Move 1 is none
> other than the classic Bubble Bobble?
> 
> Trey
> 

    Yes, there was a Bust-A-Move for the Gameboy and I believe one for the 
Super NES also. Ahh.. Can't wait for Bust-A-Move 3 and it's four-player mode. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 22:15:46 +0000

> From:          "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
> To:            "N64 Listserve" <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] Dex Drive support.
> Date:          Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:40:12 -0800
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
> 
> I was thinking of getting the Dex Drive.  A question I had was whether =
> or not anybody else would so that we could trade saves.
> -Sean
> 

    Yeah, I probably will since I have a coupon that'll take 5 dollars off of it that's 
good till the end of Feb. The only thing is the only game I have that will work with
it is Forsaken 64, but that'll change soon as I'm gonna get a couple third-party games
that are on sale to add to my N64 game library.

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 22:52:44 -0500


I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller paks, and
they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of controller-pak
intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA Courtside. I
think that more than fills the 2 paks.

>> I was thinking of getting the Dex Drive.  A question I had was whether =
>> or not anybody else would so that we could trade saves.
>> -Sean
>>
>
>    Yeah, I probably will since I have a coupon that'll take 5 dollars off
of it that's
>good till the end of Feb. The only thing is the only game I have that will
work with
>it is Forsaken 64, but that'll change soon as I'm gonna get a couple
third-party games
>that are on sale to add to my N64 game library.
>
>                         ZiG (Tim)
>                         ICQ UIN: 606350
>                         AOL IM: Zig15
>
>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:09:09 EST

In a message dated 1/18/99 10:09:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
zimmfam@redrose.net writes:

>   Yes, there was a Bust-A-Move for the Gameboy and I believe one for the 
>  Super NES also. Ahh.. Can't wait for Bust-A-Move 3 and it's four-player
mode.
>  
>  
>                           ZiG (Tim)

(In my best Ren voice) You eediot! It is Bust A Move '99, not BAM 3.

Trey

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] N64 Import: Mario Party  review:my impressions
Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:23:50 +30000


	Mario Party reminds me of monopoly, except there's no buying houses.
It's a 4 player game. So if you are playing by yourself, you'll be 
playing against 3 computer controlled players all the time.  You walk 
around in a board, like monopoly.
Everytime you get back to beginning "Go" you collect coins.  you use 
coins to buy Stars.  Depending on where you land, you collect coins, lose 
coins, or play a mini game 4 player game.  There are around 40-50 
4-player mini games.  70% of those mini games are stupid.  The game is 
totally different from what I've expected.  
Wario, Yoshi, etc. all these cute characters are really nice, little kids
will definitely like it.  Some songs/music from Mario 1 for nes were in 
this game, also brought back memories.  

8 out of 10

-Vi

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From: Nick Croft <ncroft@enterprise.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 19 Jan 1999 09:57:22 +0000

On 18-Jan-99, Eldon Siemens wrote:
> I've been watching this group for a long time and have noticed that
> when the next Nintendo system topic comes up, nobody mentions
> Mini-discs. MD would make a great storage device IMO, writability,
> same size as CD (650 MB) and the little diskette type case. only
> problem i could see is price, as MD players are not cheap (yet)

Minidiscs only hold 140MB. They can store the same amount of audio as
a CD because they use audio compression.

I think Writable DVD is the only viable current medium, but to avoid
piracy Nintendo will probably invent something themselves (or get
someone else to invent it for them).

Regards,
Nick.


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From: Nick Croft <ncroft@enterprise.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:06:16 +0000

On 18-Jan-99, Eddy Wu wrote:

> Also, I heard that the MiniDisc uses compression to fit all that data
> on a small disc. That would mean that it is not as viable for a
> videogame format.

Yes but the compression is used to get 650 MB of audio into 140 MB of
space. If you make a game that's smaller than 140 MB you don't need to
use the compression.

Regards,
Nick.


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 19 Jan 1999 11:50:57 EST

In a message dated 1/19/99 5:11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ncroft@enterprise.net writes:

> I think Writable DVD is the only viable current medium, but to avoid
>  piracy Nintendo will probably invent something themselves (or get
>  someone else to invent it for them).
>  
>  Regards,
>  Nick.

Hmm. So the N128 will cost about $5000? ;) 

Trey

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 19 Jan 1999 13:46:30 EST

Nintendo wants something that they can manufacture exclusivly, aliike carts,
so a CD, DVD, or MD medium seems out of the questions. Whoever mentioned the
2-gig writeable disks has got somehting there. If they can already be mass
produced  cheaply enough to support a drve, then that is  apossibility. Also,
who really needs the 2 gigs? Nintenod could make thier own, 1 gig disk. Thta
is plenty of space, with a cheaper price tag.

~Matt

<<I think Writable DVD is the only viable current medium, but to avoid
piracy Nintendo will probably invent something themselves (or get
someone else to invent it for them).

Regards,
Nick.>>

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 19 Jan 1999 09:54:31 -0800

Well, it was announced as BAM 3 and just recently
was announced that it would be called BAM 99, so
there you bloated sack of protoplasm.
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/18/99 10:09:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>zimmfam@redrose.net writes:
>
>>   Yes, there was a Bust-A-Move for the Gameboy and I believe one for the
>>  Super NES also. Ahh.. Can't wait for Bust-A-Move 3 and it's four-player
>mode.
>>
>>
>>                           ZiG (Tim)
>
>(In my best Ren voice) You eediot! It is Bust A Move '99, not BAM 3.
>
>Trey
>
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From: Chris Avery <averyc@io.com>
Subject: [N64] Nintendojo?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 18:04:44 -0600 (CST)

What happened to Nintendojo?  When I go to the site I get a directory
listing containing only two files.

|Chris Avery			| Computer Services Lab Manager	|
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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendojo?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 19:24:03 EST

Hi...I'm a contributing editor at Nintendojo. I'm not sure what has happened,
but the site has been down sporadically throughout the weekend...server
problems. I'm calling Simplenet right now, trying to find out what has
happened...We'll get back up as soon as we can.    ---brian, Nintendojo,
www.nintendojo.com, TheBump@aol.com

<< Subj:	 [N64] Nintendojo?
 Date:	1/19/99 7:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
 From:	averyc@io.com (Chris Avery)
 Sender:	owner-n64@lists.xmission.com
 Reply-to:	n64@lists.xmission.com
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 What happened to Nintendojo?  When I go to the site I get a directory
 listing containing only two files. >>

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 19 Jan 1999 18:46:22 -0600

What system?  (I dont follow puzzle games AT ALL)  Im assuming N64...

zimmfam@redrose.net wrote:
> 
> > From:          TreyTable@aol.com
> > Date:          Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:45:19 EST
> > To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject:       Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
> > Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
> 
> > In a message dated 1/18/99 6:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 10039073@wsd1.org
> > writes:
> >
> > > That's exactly what I would say. But when B-a-M 3 comes out, it might take
> > >  away GE007 for multiplayer
> > >
> > >             Stone Cold Spencer
> >
> > Bust A Move 3 isn't coming out for the N64. Well, not as with the 3. Since
> > Natsume got the license for BAM 4 from Taito for the PlayStation they released
> > it before Acclaim released BAM 3 for the N64, which they had the license for
> > for over a year, so Acclaim is calling BAM 3 for the N64 "Bust A Move '99".
> > Although I don't know what the big deal is since Bust A Move 3 has been out
> > for a while on the Saturn.
> >
> > So here's my known list of Bust A Move games. Mind you I'm talking about the
> > American name for Puzzle Bobble, not what is known as Bust A Groove in
> > America.
> >
> > Bust A Move 2 - PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Saturn, Neo-Geo
> > Bust A Move 3 - Saturn
> > Bust A Move '99 - Nintendo 64
> > Bust A Move 4 - PlayStation
> >
> > Did I miss any? And am I to assume that the mysterious Bust A Move 1 is none
> > other than the classic Bubble Bobble?
> >
> > Trey
> >
> 
>     Yes, there was a Bust-A-Move for the Gameboy and I believe one for the
> Super NES also. Ahh.. Can't wait for Bust-A-Move 3 and it's four-player mode.
> 
>                          ZiG (Tim)
>                          ICQ UIN: 606350
>                          AOL IM: Zig15
> 
> 
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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendojo's back up
Date: 19 Jan 1999 20:13:16 EST

Well, 'Dojo's back to it's original self. Looks like they were just doing some
maintainence, or maybe switching us to a better server...better than the
crappy one we were on. Visits for updates, including a Gex 3 profile, later
tonight!   ---brian 

<< << Subj:	 [N64] Nintendojo?
  Date:	1/19/99 7:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
  From:	averyc@io.com (Chris Avery)
  Sender:	owner-n64@lists.xmission.com
  Reply-to:	n64@lists.xmission.com
  To:	n64@mail.xmission.com (N64 Mailing List)
  
  What happened to Nintendojo?  When I go to the site I get a directory
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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 19 Jan 1999 20:59:21 -0600

I loved it to, but the only thing was, to get the real ending, you needed 2
ploayers to beat it. I didn't know anybody else who could beat it with me,
and rtying to protect player 2 for 100 levels is pretty tough.
What's the real ending like anyways?

		Stone Cold Spencer

>I was the best at Bubble Bobble!!!!  That was the 3rd game I ever got on
>my old Nintendo (now THAT'S when gaming was all about fun right?).



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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 19 Jan 1999 21:00:55 -0600

Did anyone read today's IGN story about Attitude? Man, it will be awesome.
I think I will get the dex drive just for that. Create 500 guys....... fun
fun fun....

		Stone Cold Spencer

>
>I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller paks, and
>they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of controller-pak
>intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA Courtside. I
>think that more than fills the 2 paks.
>



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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 19 Jan 1999 21:08:30 -0600

Bust-a-move 3 (or 99, whatever) is the much awaited (by me anyway) sequel
to Bust-a-move 2:AE. It is being released for the N64. It is a fun game
where you shoot bubbles of different colour up to a big mass of bubbles of
various colour. When 3 bubbles of the same colour touch, they blow up and
send other bubbles crashing down. In the new version (3 or 99) there is a 4
player mode. It will be CRAZY!!!
Hopefully it will be like, if I send down 6 bubbles, each other guy gets 6
bubbles, not 2 (6 / 3 = 2).

		Stone Cold Spencer

>What system?  (I dont follow puzzle games AT ALL)  Im assuming N64...



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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 19 Jan 1999 22:24:09 +0000

> Date:          Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:46:22 -0600
> From:          D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
> Organization:  @Home Network
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> What system?  (I dont follow puzzle games AT ALL)  Im assuming N64...
> 

    Yes, N64. It's gonna be sweet. And it probably will be 40 or 50, too, since it's not
 really a mainstream title.
  
> > >
> > 
> >     Yes, there was a Bust-A-Move for the Gameboy and I believe one for the
> > Super NES also. Ahh.. Can't wait for Bust-A-Move 3 and it's four-player mode.
> > 
> >                          ZiG (Tim)
> >                          ICQ UIN: 606350
> >                          AOL IM: Zig15
> > 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble) series
Date: 20 Jan 1999 01:04:43 EST

In a message dated 1/19/99 7:46:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

> What system?  (I dont follow puzzle games AT ALL)  Im assuming N64...

N64.

Oh yeah. I made a mistake. Bust A Move 2 isn't on the Neo-Geo. The BAM that's
on the Neo-Geo is the original Bust A Move (Bust A Move 1 if you may call it.)
D'oh!

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Bubble Bobble on the NES
Date: 20 Jan 1999 01:07:56 EST

In a message dated 1/19/99 10:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
10039073@wsd1.org writes:

> I loved it to, but the only thing was, to get the real ending, you needed 2
>  players to beat it. I didn't know anybody else who could beat it with me,
>  and trying to protect player 2 for 100 levels is pretty tough.
>  What's the real ending like anyway?
>  
>  		Stone Cold Spencer

I don't know. My brother gave up around level 50. Wasn't there like 112 levels
though? Or am I having Space Invaders flashbacks?

Trey

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From: "Johnny Sondergard" <xanthos@post5.tele.dk>
Subject: [N64] XG 2
Date: 19 Jan 1999 22:00:50 +0100

Can anyone help me with the codes to open up the fourth setting in XG
contest - the one after meltdown. I have finished meltdown, but with the
"mistake" cheat, so the game just told me to play again without cheats.
BTW, after installing the expander pak, it seems like the game doesn't slow
down when there's alot of action going on.

Johnny


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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] XG 2
Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:44:48 +0000

> From:          "Johnny Sondergard" <xanthos@post5.tele.dk>
> To:            <n64-digest@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] XG 2
> Date:          Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:00:50 +0100
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Can anyone help me with the codes to open up the fourth setting in XG
> contest - the one after meltdown. I have finished meltdown, but with the
> "mistake" cheat, so the game just told me to play again without cheats.
> BTW, after installing the expander pak, it seems like the game doesn't slow
> down when there's alot of action going on.
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 

     How is that game, anyway? I haven't played it, yet.. Is it anywhere close to F-Zero
X or Wipeout 64?  

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] New MK
Date: 20 Jan 1999 17:59:21 -0600

ANOTHER Mortal Kombat???  UUUUggghhhhhh.....

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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Bubble Bobble on the NES
Date: 20 Jan 1999 17:49:05 -0600

No, I'm pretty sure it was 100, then the boss took 60 hits to beat with
lightning bubbles.

>I don't know. My brother gave up around level 50. Wasn't there like 112
levels
>though? Or am I having Space Invaders flashbacks?
>
>Trey



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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] New MK
Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:50:57 -0500

Yeah, but it's a 3D action/fighter. Hopefully it's not just a 3D
Mythologies.

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>ANOTHER Mortal Kombat???  UUUUggghhhhhh.....
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:54:19 -0500

BTW, I was wondering about this. Back when the DexDrive was announced, IGN64
said that it could be used to download new rosters and stats for sports
games every year. I think this would be a very cool feature. However, I was
thinking about it more closely, and I realized that this suggests that you
would have to store all of the players in a league on the controller pak,
which I believe is impossible (Hell, courtside takes up most of a pak just
to store season stats, let alone the roster.) Otherwise, they would have to
make the section of the cart that stores the roster editable, meaning make
it a really large capacity EEPROM, which I think would be prohibitively
expensive. Anyone have any ideas that I haven't thought of?

-----Original Message-----


>Did anyone read today's IGN story about Attitude? Man, it will be awesome.
>I think I will get the dex drive just for that. Create 500 guys....... fun
>fun fun....
>
> Stone Cold Spencer
>
>>
>>I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller paks,
and
>>they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of controller-pak
>>intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA Courtside. I
>>think that more than fills the 2 paks.
>>
>
>
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From: "David McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 20 Jan 1999 17:35:12 -0800

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I own ASB '99 and on one standard Nintendo memory pack I can fit a =
roster and a season.  What the companies will do is just simply make the =
part of the game holding the rosters rewritable.  Being a cart this =
should be OK.
-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Eddy Wu=20
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  BTW, I was wondering about this. Back when the DexDrive was announced, =
IGN64
  said that it could be used to download new rosters and stats for =
sports
  games every year. I think this would be a very cool feature. However, =
I was
  thinking about it more closely, and I realized that this suggests that =
you
  would have to store all of the players in a league on the controller =
pak,
  which I believe is impossible (Hell, courtside takes up most of a pak =
just
  to store season stats, let alone the roster.) Otherwise, they would =
have to
  make the section of the cart that stores the roster editable, meaning =
make
  it a really large capacity EEPROM, which I think would be =
prohibitively
  expensive. Anyone have any ideas that I haven't thought of?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
  Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  >Did anyone read today's IGN story about Attitude? Man, it will be =
awesome.
  >I think I will get the dex drive just for that. Create 500 =
guys....... fun
  >fun fun....
  >
  > Stone Cold Spencer
  >
  >>
  >>I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller =
paks,
  and
  >>they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of =
controller-pak
  >>intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA =
Courtside. I
  >>think that more than fills the 2 paks.
  >>
  >
  >
  >
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:28:12 -0500

You can fit team rosters, but can you fit the rosters of all 20-40 teams in
any given league? Also, you're assuming it's easy to make carts rewritable.
It's not, for it to be rewritable a company must use EEPROM chips, which are
more expensive than regular cart memory.

-----Original Message-----


I own ASB '99 and on one standard Nintendo memory pack I can fit a roster
and a season.  What the companies will do is just simply make the part of
the game holding the rosters rewritable.  Being a cart this should be OK.
-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Eddy Wu
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  BTW, I was wondering about this. Back when the DexDrive was announced,
IGN64
  said that it could be used to download new rosters and stats for sports
  games every year. I think this would be a very cool feature. However, I
was
  thinking about it more closely, and I realized that this suggests that you
  would have to store all of the players in a league on the controller pak,
  which I believe is impossible (Hell, courtside takes up most of a pak just
  to store season stats, let alone the roster.) Otherwise, they would have
to
  make the section of the cart that stores the roster editable, meaning make
  it a really large capacity EEPROM, which I think would be prohibitively
  expensive. Anyone have any ideas that I haven't thought of?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
  Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  >Did anyone read today's IGN story about Attitude? Man, it will be
awesome.
  >I think I will get the dex drive just for that. Create 500 guys.......
fun
  >fun fun....
  >
  > Stone Cold Spencer
  >
  >>
  >>I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller paks,
  and
  >>they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of
controller-pak
  >>intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA Courtside.
I
  >>think that more than fills the 2 paks.
  >>
  >
  >
  >
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From: "Sean McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.
Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:38:42 -0800

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No you can't.  I hadn't thought about that.  I just save my one "dream =
team."  Would it be all that expensive to just make that tiny part of =
the cart pertaining to the roster EEPROM?
-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Eddy Wu=20
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  You can fit team rosters, but can you fit the rosters of all 20-40 =
teams in
  any given league? Also, you're assuming it's easy to make carts =
rewritable.
  It's not, for it to be rewritable a company must use EEPROM chips, =
which are
  more expensive than regular cart memory.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David McWherter <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
  To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
  Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


  I own ASB '99 and on one standard Nintendo memory pack I can fit a =
roster
  and a season.  What the companies will do is just simply make the part =
of
  the game holding the rosters rewritable.  Being a cart this should be =
OK.
  -Sean
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Eddy Wu
    To: n64@lists.xmission.com
    Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 4:54 PM
    Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


    BTW, I was wondering about this. Back when the DexDrive was =
announced,
  IGN64
    said that it could be used to download new rosters and stats for =
sports
    games every year. I think this would be a very cool feature. =
However, I
  was
    thinking about it more closely, and I realized that this suggests =
that you
    would have to store all of the players in a league on the controller =
pak,
    which I believe is impossible (Hell, courtside takes up most of a =
pak just
    to store season stats, let alone the roster.) Otherwise, they would =
have
  to
    make the section of the cart that stores the roster editable, =
meaning make
    it a really large capacity EEPROM, which I think would be =
prohibitively
    expensive. Anyone have any ideas that I haven't thought of?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
    To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
    Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:11 PM
    Subject: Re: [N64] Dex Drive support.


    >Did anyone read today's IGN story about Attitude? Man, it will be
  awesome.
    >I think I will get the dex drive just for that. Create 500 =
guys.......
  fun
    >fun fun....
    >
    > Stone Cold Spencer
    >
    >>
    >>I'm definitely getting a DexDrive.. I already have two controller =
paks,
    and
    >>they are both full. For some reason, I seem to buy a lot of
  controller-pak
    >>intensive games. Let me think.. Snowboard Kids, Turok II, NBA =
Courtside.
  I
    >>think that more than fills the 2 paks.
    >>
    >
    >
    >
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From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:35:47 +0000

>but to avoid
>piracy Nintendo will probably invent something themselves

Yup, and then someone will come along and invent something to
crack it wide open as always. No matter how ingeneous a system it
can always be tamed, part of the challenge for some people is the
complexity.

peace,
tWiSt
-- 
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From:         Mike Lohrey <mlohrey@IMAGINEGAMES.COM>
Subject: [N64] IGN64 Press Pass
Date: 21 Jan 1999 12:09:12 -0600

IGN64 PRESS PASS          Today's date: Jan. 21, 1999
_____________________________________________________


CONTENTS:

1. CONTEST
2. N64 TOP STORIES
   * PARTYING WITH MARIO
   * WWF ATTITUDE
   * STAR SOLDIER: VANISHING EARTH
   * ALL-STAR BASEBALL 2000
   * 3SIXTY: FUN ON WATER WITH THE FRENCH
3. GAMER'S LIFESTYLE
4. AFFILIATE NEWS
5. CODES/STRATEGIES
   * BATTLE TANX
   * KNIFE EDGE: NOSE GUNNER
   * 1080 SNOWBOARDING
6. GAMESTORE
7. THE SNITCH

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                  N64 TOP STORIES
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PARTYING WITH MARIO
IGN64 went hands-on with Nintendo's multiplayer surprise

Nintendo yesterday invited game journalists and Mario enthusiasts from all
across the San Francisco Bay Area for a fun little gaming bash in the SF
Cartoon Arts Museum. The game to be celebrated: Mario Party. After feasting
themselves silly on food and drink and braving an intimidating Mario
lookalike in full costume (as well as the infamous "Pooch" guarding the
door) IGN64 sat down in front of one of Nintendo's bigscreen TVs and tried
out Nintendo's latest. For the full rundown plus screenshots, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6502.html


WWF ATTITUDE
Iguana West delivers everything wrestling fans wanted for the sequel to WWF
Warzone

Iguana West is at it again, this time with a sequel to Warzone titled WWF
Attitude. The game employs the same engine of old, but features a whole lot
of new additions including more wrestlers than ever before, a hugely
expanded create-a-wrestler option and so much more. See our complete
preview at
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/10375.html


STAR SOLDIER: VANISHING EARTH
IGN64 reviews the Hudson/Electro-Brain retro-shooter that quietly found its
way into stores

The good news is that Star Soldier is far from the heap of crap that Hudson
and Electro-Brain's last release (Dual Heroes) was. The game arrives as the
first scrolling overhead shooter for the system and helps broadening the
N64's lineup. The bad news is that we can think of 20 Super NES shooters
that are more impressive and innovative -- even to this day...
http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/3799.html


ALL-STAR BASEBALL 2000
The sequel to All-Star Baseball shows up at IGN with a number of improvements

Acclaim previewed an 80% complete version of All-Star Baseball 2000 to
IGN64 earlier this week (01/20/99). The game employs a respectable number
of enhancements and additions, from a more intelligent pitching/batting
system to the use of Nintendo's Expansion Pak for a newly installed
instant-replay mode and everything in-between. Catch the detailed preview at
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/1907.html


3SIXTY: FUN ON WATER WITH THE FRENCH
French publisher Cryo is bringing futuristic combat racing to Nintendo 64

The setting seems familiar: Humankind's need for hairspray and coal-fired
electricity plants has led to global warming and the melting of the polar
ice caps. The waters have now subsided and the climate again changed, with
the resultant wastelands -- a dried out sea-bed, a lava flow and an ice
covered London for example -- now the place for what else but racing
futuristic hydrofoils.
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6505.html


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                  GAMER'S LIFESTYLE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Brooke Shields did it. Chelsea Clinton is doing it. Why don't you do it?
Get into college!

Find out how at IGN's super sister site, the Power
Students Network. Find your perfect college match, tackle the mountain of
application forms, and grab some free scholarship money. Plus, meet Terry,
a freshman at Harvard, and Chrissy, a senior in high school, as they reveal
the secrets in their personal diaries.
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GAMING AGE

Chat Channels -- Instead of sitting by and just reading about what goes on
in the gaming industry, take part and discuss it with fellow gamers. The
Gaming Age editors are all big into the IRC chat scene, so it's likely
you'll easily find them if you come on. Some of the channels they usually
hang out on are #vidgames! and #ga.
http://www.gaming-age.com/chat/


NINTENDOJO

The industry's busiest season has come and gone. While many wait for the
dust to settle, Nintendojo had an opportunity to have a chat with Perrin
Kaplan, Director of Corporate Affairs at Nintendo of America. While the
answers were vague, the interview did shed some light on the  company's
performance during the past holiday shopping season and hints on Nintendo's
plans in 1999 and beyond.
 http://www.nintendojo.com/news/infocus/interview/nin.htm


NINTENDO 64 UNDERGROUND

Is Nintendo giving Up Prematurely? (an editorial by Mike Kuzenski) -- So
maybe the Nintendo 64 didn't turn out to be quite the phenomenon that the
original 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System became in the mid-eighties.
However, Nintendo seems to be thinking too far ahead into the future and
neglecting what they could do in the present. If they really wanted to turn
things around for the Nintendo 64 and give Sony and Sega a run for their
money, here's what they should do...
http://209.203.239.166/editorials/mike/giving_up_prematurely/


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  CODES/STRATEGIES
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BATTLE TANX
     > Better Weapons
     > Choose Gang in Campaign Mode
     > Storm Ravens Gang
     > Warp to State Street
To get these options, check out
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/3924.html


KNIFE EDGE: NOSE GUNNER
     > Hidden Difficulty
For this special code plus link to GameShark codes, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/3930.html


1080 SNOWBOARDING
     > Easy Way to get the Crystal and Metal Boarders
Ahhh, the cheat we've all been waiting for...
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/2225.html


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                     GAMESTORE
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Pre-order or purchase your favorite N64 titles from the IGN/EB World Online
Gamestore! For the list of games available, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/gamestore.html


?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
                     THE SNITCH
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, The Snitch has his grubby little mitts on one Fishing Junior
hand-held game plus five limited-edition copies of IGN64.com The Magazine
to give away. As you probably guessed, there's a catch. I've got two
questions that need answering:

1. In the BattleTanx vs. Snuggles commercial, what does the fried and
filleted bear say right before he coughs up some of his own stuffing?

2. What "rumor" guy from IGN64 has appeared on IGN Asylum (the Imagine
Radio show) twice?

That's not so bad, right? Okay, send your entry (one per person) to
newsletter@imaginegames.com by Monday, January 25, 1999. In the subject
line, put: GO FISH CONTEST. Be sure to include your name, mailing address
(street address, no P.O. boxes), and phone number.

And don't worry, I won't stick you on any mailing list or donate your
information to science, no matter how noble the cause.


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:36:01 EST

Yeah, but usually with Nintendo, it takes a while. It took Atari (a.k.a.
Tengen) years to crack the secret of the lockout ship for the NES, and they
only did so by breaking into the US patent office (well, they didn't literally
break in, but they obtained the lockout chip specs illegally). don't
underestimate Nintendo's ingenuity.

~Matt

<<Yup, and then someone will come along and invent something to
crack it wide open as always. No matter how ingeneous a system it
can always be tamed, part of the challenge for some people is the
complexity.

peace,
tWiSt>>

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Next Nintendo medium
Date: 21 Jan 1999 18:06:42 -0600

If you make a better system, they'll make a better hacker.

tWiSt wrote:
> 
> >but to avoid
> >piracy Nintendo will probably invent something themselves
> 
> Yup, and then someone will come along and invent something to
> crack it wide open as always. No matter how ingeneous a system it
> can always be tamed, part of the challenge for some people is the
> complexity.
> 
> peace,
> tWiSt
> --
> DJ tWiSt - Hungry Ghost Productions
> ICQ:9921764 - http://www.hungryghost.co.uk
> 
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From: "Matthew Domoracki" <mattd@clover.net>
Subject: [N64] MattD is Back
Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:27:14 -0500

Just to let everyone know I'm back on the list is anyone who used to be on
here still around?


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] MattD is Back and Pokemon
Date: 21 Jan 1999 22:05:30 EST

Depends. I'm here. Trey's here. D Fenti is here. Greg is still here. The DMA
fellas are not here (or ARE they?). Ian is here.

What are the chances of there being an N64 Pokemon title? I like the Game Boy
game, and I'm itching for some 3-D polygonal action.

~Matt

<<Just to let everyone know I'm back on the list is anyone who used to be on
here still around?>>

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] MattD is Back and Pokemon
Date: 21 Jan 1999 21:29:51 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 Bastion007@aol.com wrote:

> Depends. I'm here. Trey's here. D Fenti is here. Greg is still here. The DMA
> fellas are not here (or ARE they?). Ian is here.

Hey, I'm still here! 

Stryder




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From: "David McWherter" <Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 08:03:50 -0800

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 21 Jan 1999 22:15:24 -0600 (CST)


On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, David McWherter wrote:

> What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> -Sean

Perfect Dark

The game I would most like to see is Metroid 64

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Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 21 Jan 1999 22:29:11 -0600

Earthbound 64.

> David McWherter wrote:
> 
> What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> -Sean
>

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From: "Marc Guy" <marc@tdl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 22 Jan 1999 09:40:32 +0000

OK so in the UK Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is released today.

I am quite a big star wars fan so should I get this, will I be happy?

Is the expansion pak worth it?

C'mon give me some advice.

Cheers

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 22 Jan 1999 20:57:23 +1100

I know this is an old message but...


At 16:37 17-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>>And more interaction with the Game Boy. There's very little use of the 64GB
>>Pak, and Nintenod has in that little handheld to mother of all VMSs.
>
><<Yeah, I guess that would be cool, but personally I'm not very excited by all
>this VMS and Pocketstation stuff.>>
>
>Neither am I. But Nintendo, for example, could make Smash Borthers sell
>millions in a very simple way. Rather than having Pikachu a selectable
>character in Smash Brothers, they could have an open slot, where, using the
>64GB Pak, a player could transport ANY Pokemon into the game that they have in
>their Game Boy title.  This would, essentially, make the roster of characters
>all the mascots, and then the other 151 Pokemon. Things like this that
>Nintendo misses out on should be corrected in the future.
>

Do you realise how crazy that is? First of all, it would be impossible to
store all the graphical and audio data for all 151 characters. Secondly, it
would be impossible to balance a fighting game with 151+ characters.
Thirdly, RPG and fighting genres don't have much room for cross-over... lots
of people who would buy Smash Brothers would miss out on extra features.



>>And bring over more Japanese games, dammit!
>
><<Like?>>
>
>Well, not Nintendo per se, but have them publish more Japanese games here.
>Nintendo didn't bring all the Final Fantasys here, and there are tons of games
>thta are Japan only that can be found in an decent game magazine.
>
>~Matt
>

If only there were more Japanese N64 games to release... :((((


alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] nintendo's next medium
Date: 22 Jan 1999 21:14:49 +1100

At 00:34 18-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>I think Nintendo should use Zip Disks for their next system. They hold a lot
>of memoryand are easy to copy. Besides, most of my N64 games are on Zip disks.
>
>Trey
>

I don't care what the storage medium is. Just as long as Capcom will makes
games on it!

alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 08:11:06 EST

In a message dated 1/21/99 11:04:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

> What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
>  -Sean

Castlevania.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 22 Jan 1999 08:13:47 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 4:41:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, marc@tdl.co.uk
writes:

> OK so in the UK Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is released today.
>  
>  I am quite a big star wars fan so should I get this, will I be happy?

Hmm. If the PAL conversion didn't screw it up and it doesn't bother you that
it is NOT a dogfighting game, I think you'll like it.

>  
>  Is the expansion pak worth it?

    Hell yes.
>  
>  C'mon give me some advice.
>  
>  Cheers
>  

type "CHICKEN" in the passcode section.

Trey

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From: Jason Wade <jwade2@coventry.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 13:13:51 GMT


> > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> >  -Sean

At the moment, duke nukem 2 (cos I can't get south park yet)



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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] MattD is Back
Date: 22 Jan 1999 08:31:00 -0500

     I used to be on here, and I still am.

Russ


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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 11:52:55 GMT-4


> > David McWherter wrote:
> > 
> > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> > -Sean
> >
> 
StarCraft

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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 10:04:56 -0600 (CST)


Gran Turismo!!!!

John

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, STEPHANE QUIMPERE wrote:

> 
> > > David McWherter wrote:
> > > 
> > > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> > > -Sean
> > >
> > 
> StarCraft
> 
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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 11:04:00 -0500


 
 >
 > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?  
 > -Sean
 >
 >

     Turok 2 

Russ

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 11:39:55 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 11:05:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes:
 > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> > > -Sean
>
> Gran Turismo!!!!
>  
>  John

I think Sean's question is out of the games that are going to be released, not
the ones that don't have a snowflakes chance in Hell of being released. ;) 

Trey

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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone 
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:56:14 +0000

What happens if the PSX 2000 goes down the tubes and Nintendo buy the
sony games division and go onto release Gran Turismo on the N2000...


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 12:07:58 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 11:57:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk writes:

> What happens if the PSX 2000 goes down the tubes and Nintendo buy the
>  Sony games division and go onto release Gran Tourism on the N2000...
>  

If the successor to the PlayStation (I doubt it will be in 2000) goes down the
tubes I doubt that Sony would sell its game division to Nintendo. And there
won't a be a N2000 either. I mean Perfect Dark won't come out until Christmas
'99, and I know there will be life after PD. It would be a bad idea to kill a
system that's doing so well. That's just my opinion. Although maybe you were
just being sarcastic...

Trey

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 22 Jan 1999 13:19:20 -0500

*responding to person saying Smash Brothers should allow you to use your
own Pokemons*

>Do you realise how crazy that is? First of all, it would be impossible to
>store all the graphical and audio data for all 151 characters. Secondly, it
>would be impossible to balance a fighting game with 151+ characters.
>Thirdly, RPG and fighting genres don't have much room for cross-over... lots
>of people who would buy Smash Brothers would miss out on extra features.

Um, Tobal 2 on the PSX had about that many fighters and it's considered one
of the best fighters ever.


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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo's next system
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:30:41 -0500



>*responding to person saying Smash Brothers should allow you to use your
>own Pokemons*
>
>>Do you realise how crazy that is? First of all, it would be impossible to
>>store all the graphical and audio data for all 151 characters. Secondly,
it
>>would be impossible to balance a fighting game with 151+ characters.
>>Thirdly, RPG and fighting genres don't have much room for cross-over...
lots
>>of people who would buy Smash Brothers would miss out on extra features.
>
>Um, Tobal 2 on the PSX had about that many fighters and it's considered one
>of the best fighters ever.


Well, I see his point. PSX games can store more fighters because of the CD
space. I think that was the main reason that Pokemon Stadium didn't include
all of the pokemon.

That was why I suggested that they include a basic fighting-engine in the
pokemon RPG. Nintendo would definitely spend on a 32 meg cart, because
Pokemon is even bigger than Zelda in Japan. They wouldn't have to worry
about balance, because the entire goal of the game is to get more powerful
fighters. The audio wouldn't take up very much space, because they would
only have to record one sample for each pokemon, and just loop it like in
the TV show.



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From: Garrett Winters <gargoyle@iol.ie>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:58:07 +0000

>What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
>-Sean

Well Perfect Dark for  a start, Wargasm which I only just became aware of 
( thanks to N64Pro magazine which had a free video short of upcoming 
titles) and it looks breathtaking. South park of course ( which isn't 
coming out here until february or march by the look of things) 
a Second version of Mario would be great.
What I'm really dying to get is Driver for the PSX if it ever 
materializes.
Garrett

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From: Matt Ma <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject:  Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 13:24:47 -0700 (MST)

<Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net> 01/22/99 08:03am >>>
>What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?

Bust-A-Move 3 (BAM 99, or whatever it'll be called).

Although after reading IGN64 for the past couple days, now I'm also
really looking forward to Mystical Ninja 2, Mario Party, and Tetris 64. They
all look to be excellent multiplayer fun! Check out what Matt and Peer
have to say about it, if you haven't already!

matt ma

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 12:44:23 PST

but it's nice to dream...

elliot


>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:39:55 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/22/99 11:05:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes:
> > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
>> > > -Sean
>>
>> Gran Turismo!!!!
>>  
>>  John
>
>I think Sean's question is out of the games that are going to be 
released, not
>the ones that don't have a snowflakes chance in Hell of being released. 
;) 
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 12:47:22 PST

which could happen, seeing how late the N64 got Wipeout. ;)

elliot


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>Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:56:14 +0000
>From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>What happens if the PSX 2000 goes down the tubes and Nintendo buy the
>sony games division and go onto release Gran Turismo on the N2000...
>
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From: " Robert L. Horine" <rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:06:42 -0500 (EST)

Wish- Street fighter EX
Upcoming-Superman

You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net 
or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> Earthbound 64.
> 
> > David McWherter wrote:
> > 
> > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> > -Sean
> >
> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:03:22 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 3:49:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> which could happen, seeing how late the N64 got Wipeout. ;)
>  
>  Elliot
>  

Yes, but Wipeout is owned by Pignoses (Psygnosis) not by Sony. So Pignoses can
do whatever they want with their second rate franchise. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:17:33 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 4:07:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu writes:

> Wish- Street fighter EX
> 

Word to the wise. Copy and paste what you're replying to. 

And why would you want the terrible Street Fighter EX brought to the N64? That
had to be the worst Street Fighter game I ever played. Thankfully Street
Fighter EX + Alpha (PSX) was tweaked for the home release. Now maybe Street
Fighter EX 2 would be nice.  

A question to those who live in big American cities. Is Street Fighter EX 2 in
arcades yet? I live in a town where Virtua Fighter 3 and Tekken 3 are
considered new games. I had to go to Pittsburgh to play Street Fighter 3. I
have yet to even see Soul Calibur or Ergheiz. (sigh)

Trey


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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:17:24 PST

Seeing how litle I played my N64 ( except for Zelda ) as compared to the 
my psx, I decided to do some reasearch to see what I was interested in 
for the N64 this year.  These are the games that have been previewed at 
ign64 that I'm interested in;

Beetle Advnture Racing




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From: Matt Ma <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject:  Re: [N64] Gran Turismo [was: Question for everyone]
Date: 22 Jan 1999 15:20:41 -0700 (MST)

>>> "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com> 01/22/99 12:44pm >>>
>but it's nice to dream...

Yes, it is nice to dream. But if you can afford the real thing, go for it! I got
so sick of being envious that I got a PSX just to be able to play Gran
Turismo. It's definately the best racing game ever created, IMO of course.

Unfortunately, this game will *never* come the N64 - there are just way
too many cars and parts/settings for a cartridge to economically store all
the information for each one.

As for a Sony made game ever making it to a Nintendo console... Wasn't
Psygnosis a Sony owned development house, that decided to go
independant? And isn't Gran Turismo made by Polyphony, another Sony
"in-house" developer? Is it possible that Polyphony would ever split from
Sony? If I'm totally wrong on my video game history, please let me know.

matt ma

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 17:34:01 EST

I've been spotting some games for dirt cheap prices, brand spanking new. Among
them, Wipeout 64 for about $30 [and Body Harvest for $20 at that]. Question
being, is it a good enough game to buy?  It looks like fun, but I'm rather
unsure of how good of a racer it is. Comments? 

!!


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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:42:04 PST

Seeing how little I've played my N64 (except for Zelda) this year, as 
compared to the my psx, I decided to do some reasearch to see what I was 
interested in for the N64 this year.  This is what I've come up with (at 
least thru 1999):

Beetle Advnture Racing   Tonic Trouble 
Perfect Dark             Star Wars: POD Racer
Jet Force Gemini         Winback      
Blitz 2000               World Championship Driver
Earthworm Jim 3D         Starcraft
Harrier 2001             

I know I've left some off, but I'm not a fan of fps, rpgs, or shooting 
games, so if it's listed it's probably gotten good previews so far.  I'm 
sure I'll buy some of those (Blitz 2000 and Pod Racer definately) but as 
far as choosing one, it's hard because they don't really stand out to 
me.  

Excluding Blitz and Pod Racer, the three I'd choose are Perfect Dark, 
Beetle Adventure racing, and Earthworm Jim 3D.  Perfect dark because it 
appears to be an awesome mix of MGS and GE:007.  Beetle Adventure Racing 
sounds like a fun ADVENTURE game and people who've previewed it are 
excited about it as well.  I've always loved Earthworm Jim so I'm 
following the third one too.

Others that sparked my attention, but not as much, are Contra Spirits 
3D, Last Leigon UX (probably too late to bring this one over), Pokemon 
Stadium, Smash Bros., Tonic Trouble, and X-men.

In the end, it's probably Perfect Dark, which will be the bomb.

elliot

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:43:42 PST

Talk man, where did you see these prices ?


>From: Devil929@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:34:01 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>I've been spotting some games for dirt cheap prices, brand spanking 
new. Among
>them, Wipeout 64 for about $30 [and Body Harvest for $20 at that]. 
Question
>being, is it a good enough game to buy?  It looks like fun, but I'm 
rather
>unsure of how good of a racer it is. Comments? 
>
>!!
>
>
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:45:31 EST

In a message dated 1/21/99 8:04:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< 
 What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
 -Sean
  >>

	Right now I'm most looking forward to Ogre Battle 3.  That game is gonna
rock!

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:53:57 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 9:09:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< 
 If the successor to the PlayStation (I doubt it will be in 2000) goes down
the
 tubes I doubt that Sony would sell its game division to Nintendo. And there
 won't a be a N2000 either. I mean Perfect Dark won't come out until Christmas
 '99, and I know there will be life after PD. It would be a bad idea to kill a
 system that's doing so well. That's just my opinion. Although maybe you were
 just being sarcastic...
 
 Trey >>


	Well, Nintendo has announced that they are working on a next gen system, but
have said nothing else.  I agree with Trey, though, it would be pointless to
get rid of the N64 so soon.  So much more can be done on it and I want to see
it all!

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:49:53 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 1:41:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, marc@tdl.co.uk
writes:

<< OK so in the UK Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is released today.
 
 I am quite a big star wars fan so should I get this, will I be happy?
 
 Is the expansion pak worth it?
 
 C'mon give me some advice.
 
 Cheers
  >>

	Depends.  I rented and I think I got pretty far (The AT-AT construction site,
how far is that?)  It took me a while to get used to it and to get to liking
it enough to play.  The play control was alright, and the fog wasn't as bad as
everyone made it out to be.  Some of the missions I had to replay several
times, and it's REALLY hard to get Gold Medals in the levels.  Shooters just
aren't my type of game, though, so I'd take my review with a grain of salt.

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] list members, futue games
Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:01:17 +30000


>  Trey's here. D Fenti is here. Greg is still here. 
> Ian is here, Styder is here

I feel like we are part of a family here.  This is nice.  As long as 
nintendo is around and this list still exist, I'll still be here.

I'm not really looking forward to any N64 games.  there's nothing that's 
really special right now.  There's still games I'm playing right now that 
is taking me time.  Zelda, Mgs, Xenogear, Turok2, Baldur's Gate, and Abe2.
yeah, I play on all platforms including pc.  The types I'm looking for 
are rpg and  multiplayer games.  So I guess I am kinda looking forward to 
Mario Party, Smash Bro, and Earthbound.   Earthbound64 seem so far 
away I don't even want to think about it.

-Vi
ICQ: 3156647
AIM: Vivi113

"Too many games, too little time"

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:00:37 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 1:14:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, TreyTable@aol.com
writes:

<< Yes, but Wipeout is owned by Pignoses (Psygnosis) not by Sony. So Pignoses
can
 do whatever they want with their second rate franchise. 
 
 Trey >>

	I thought Sony owned Psygnosis though?

--David

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] list members, futue games
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:11:30 -0600

Hehehehehe...one big disfunctional family.  :-)

Yeah...there's not much I'm looking forward to right at this moment.  Maybe
Castlevania 64, Perfect Dark, and the supposed N64 modem.

I'm currently playing Zelda, and when I get the chance, I rent Turok 2.  Is
there REALLY any difference in graphics on Turok 2, when you have the Ram
Expansion?  I mean..the graphics look GREAT as they are, so I can't really
see any reason to get the Ram Exp.  Is it worth it?

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158


>I feel like we are part of a family here.  This is nice.  As long as
>nintendo is around and this list still exist, I'll still be here.
>
>I'm not really looking forward to any N64 games.  there's nothing that's
>really special right now.  There's still games I'm playing right now that
>is taking me time.  Zelda, Mgs, Xenogear, Turok2, Baldur's Gate, and Abe2.
>yeah, I play on all platforms including pc.  The types I'm looking for
>are rpg and  multiplayer games.  So I guess I am kinda looking forward to
>Mario Party, Smash Bro, and Earthbound.   Earthbound64 seem so far
>away I don't even want to think about it.
>
>-Vi
>ICQ: 3156647
>AIM: Vivi113
>
>"Too many games, too little time"
>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 20:55:58 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 5:37:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:

> I've been spotting some games for dirt cheap prices, brand spanking new. 
> Among
>  them, Wipeout 64 for about $30 [and Body Harvest for $20 at that]. Question
>  being, is it a good enough game to buy?  It looks like fun, but I'm rather
>  unsure of how good of a racer it is. Comments? 
>  
>  !!

When you hit a wall in F-Zero X you bounce off, slow down a bit, and keep
going. In Wipeout 64 you come to a dead stop. I'm not knocking Wipeout 64,
it's just the kind of game that requires exact precision. I suggest renting it
first.

Trey

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 21:11:08 -0500

>In a message dated 1/22/99 5:37:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Devil929@aol.com
>writes:
>
>> I've been spotting some games for dirt cheap prices, brand spanking new.
>> Among
>>  them, Wipeout 64 for about $30 [and Body Harvest for $20 at that].
Question
>>  being, is it a good enough game to buy?  It looks like fun, but I'm
rather
>>  unsure of how good of a racer it is. Comments?
>>
>>  !!
>
>When you hit a wall in F-Zero X you bounce off, slow down a bit, and keep
>going. In Wipeout 64 you come to a dead stop. I'm not knocking Wipeout 64,
>it's just the kind of game that requires exact precision. I suggest renting
it
>first.
>
>Trey


Yeah, Trey is completely right. F-Zero is based more on reaction time and
your ability to adapt the the track conditions, which is why the X-cup is
possible. In Wipeout, you must basically memorize the track in order to get
a decent time. You have to start leaning into turns very early. Near the
beginning it is a little difficult (especially if you were playing F-Zero
recently), but once you get used to it it feels quite natural, and the
satisfaction you get from weaving through turns at top speed without hitting
anything is great =)



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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone (Ogre Battle)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 21:12:10 -0500

I've never played any of the Ogre games.. what do they play like? A
turn-based RPG like FFVII or an RTS, or a combo of both?


>In a message dated 1/21/99 8:04:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
><<
> What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> -Sean
>  >>
>
> Right now I'm most looking forward to Ogre Battle 3.  That game is gonna
>rock!
>
>--David



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From: Dexter Sy <karens@smartt.com>
Subject: [N64] wipeout is worth it!
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:26:57 -0800

I've played Wipeout 64 and FZX extensively and I love em both.  Both
appeal to different types of games as well.  So I don't really pay
attention to the FZX vs. W064 debates.

anywho, read my review if you think it might help you decided.

http://www.nintendojo.com/reviews/staff/wipe64ds.htm


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 23 Jan 1999 13:35:28 +1100

At 16:17 22-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/22/99 4:07:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu writes:
>
>> Wish- Street fighter EX
>> 
>
>Word to the wise. Copy and paste what you're replying to. 
>
>And why would you want the terrible Street Fighter EX brought to the N64? That
>had to be the worst Street Fighter game I ever played. Thankfully Street
>Fighter EX + Alpha (PSX) was tweaked for the home release. Now maybe Street
>Fighter EX 2 would be nice.  
>
>A question to those who live in big American cities. Is Street Fighter EX 2 in
>arcades yet? I live in a town where Virtua Fighter 3 and Tekken 3 are
>considered new games. I had to go to Pittsburgh to play Street Fighter 3. I
>have yet to even see Soul Calibur or Ergheiz. (sigh)
>
>Trey
>

I like the Street Fighter EX series since it's more like the original game
than Alpha. Besides, any form of street fighter would be 1000x better than
any fighter currently on the N64. 



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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:07:47 +0000

> From:          Devil929@aol.com
> Date:          Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:34:01 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> I've been spotting some games for dirt cheap prices, brand spanking new. Among
> them, Wipeout 64 for about $30 [and Body Harvest for $20 at that]. Question
> being, is it a good enough game to buy?  It looks like fun, but I'm rather
> unsure of how good of a racer it is. Comments? 
> 
> !!
> 
> 

     Yeah, I would say for 30 bucks most definately. I rented it one time, and it was a 
great game, good music (although I think Tetrisphere's techno was better), excellent
graphics and very fast. Didn't get a chance to play any multi-player besides a couple
of 2-player, but what I did was very good. So, pick it up. Also, if you have not
bought Body Harvest, yet, for 20 dollars, you have to. I just hope the sequel has 
better saving. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone (Ogre Battle)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:09:32 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 6:14:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< I've never played any of the Ogre games.. what do they play like? A
 turn-based RPG like FFVII or an RTS, or a combo of both?
  >>

	Ogre Battle is a strategical RPG.  You move units, consisting of characters
from Vampires to Dragons to Knights, around a large map and battle enemies,
find items, recruit more characters, Class Change the characters, and defeat
bosses.  Battles are turned based, but you don't control the characters
themselves, you just watch.  In the original there were many factors you had
to keep track of: alignment, speed, strength, what charcters you put into
units, etc...  During a battle you could use Tarot cards, which are won when
you Liberate a town, and can also be bought.  Night and day passes, and in the
original Ogre Battle for the SNES, you had to keep track of this little meter
at the top, right-hand side of the screen (don't remember what it was called).
This meter would raise and lower, mostly lower, and the lower it got, the more
people hated you.  It was a massive game because there was TONS of stuff you
could do and items you could find.  I'd say it takes an average of 50-70 hours
to complete.  The great thing was the replay value.  Each game you played was
never the same.  NEVER.  All-in-all a great game.

--David

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses!
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:43:31 EST

Thanks for all the responses, I think I may very well pick it up -- just
wanted to be sure it was worth a purchase. 

As for where, I spotted the cheapest prices at a local Target retailer: $20
for Body Harvest [which, I don't like enough to buy] and $30 for Wipeout,
which I imagine may drop to $20 next week since it was $40 the week before. I
sent the full news to Dojo for tonight's update, so if/when it goes up, that's
where the piece is at for more details.

I just hope maybe one day I can find F-Zero for around the same price. I
didn't like the game enough to buy it at full price. 

!!

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone 
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:52:00 +0000

> 
> 
> >In a message dated 1/21/99 8:04:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >Sean.McWherter@worldnet.att.net writes:
> >
> ><<
> > What game are you looking forward to most on the 64?
> > -Sean
> >  >>

     Umm.. Before I would've said Perfect Dark, but I'm not too sure anymore, since
I'm starting to get sick of first-person shooters. I guess Rare will put enough 
innovative things in it to keep it from playing like every other shooter, tho. Other ones
I can't wait for:

     Command & Conquer
     Bust-A-Move '99 (that's right, isn't it, Trey? :))
     Blades of Steel
     NFL Blitz 2000
     Beetle Adventure Racing
     Bomberman 2
     And a sequel to Forsaken (may not come out for the N64, but I'm guessing that it probably will).
     

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses!
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:54:12 +0000

> From:          Devil929@aol.com
> Date:          Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:43:31 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses!
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Thanks for all the responses, I think I may very well pick it up -- just
> wanted to be sure it was worth a purchase. 
> 
> As for where, I spotted the cheapest prices at a local Target retailer: $20
> for Body Harvest [which, I don't like enough to buy] and $30 for Wipeout,
> which I imagine may drop to $20 next week since it was $40 the week before. I
> sent the full news to Dojo for tonight's update, so if/when it goes up, that's
> where the piece is at for more details.
> 
> I just hope maybe one day I can find F-Zero for around the same price. I
> didn't like the game enough to buy it at full price. 
> 
> !!
> 

      Man, I wish I had a Target closer than 2 hours away from where I live! And as
for F-Zero X being cheaper, I would think that it'll be included with the next Player's
Choice games.. Later.
      

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] list members, futue games
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:13:01 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:

> Hehehehehe...one big disfunctional family.  :-)

That's the truth!  But we do know each other pretty well in that we know
what to expect out of everybody and who likes what.  I like this list!  It
is the only list I'm on that has any real activity and is any fun.

> Yeah...there's not much I'm looking forward to right at this moment.  Maybe
> Castlevania 64, Perfect Dark, and the supposed N64 modem.

Does Castlevania 64 come out next week?  I really have not heard a whole
lot about this game...it does not seem to have the hype that you would
expect out of such a well known franchise.  Do you guys think it will be
any good?  I'm really worried after the glory of Castlevania: SOTN....I'm
afraid of a big let down.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Rogue Squadron
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:16:13 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/22/99 1:41:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, marc@tdl.co.uk
> writes:
> 
> << OK so in the UK Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is released today.  
>  I am quite a big star wars fan so should I get this, will I be happy?
>  Is the expansion pak worth it?
>  C'mon give me some advice.
>  
>  Cheers

Well, depends on who you ask.  I personally loved the game and played it
to  death until I was able to obtain all 19 gold medals....me and a friend
spent a couple of long nights just working on each level one by one.  It
was very challenging, but not impossible...which made it fun.  I pretty
much enjoyed every level.

Now, if you ask Trey, you get a different view.  He did not care for the
levels where you have to protect ground troops or escort something. He had
few other gripes too....but I personally would say go for it!

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] list members, futue games
Date: 23 Jan 1999 00:17:07 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 9:13:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

<< Does Castlevania 64 come out next week?  I really have not heard a whole
 lot about this game...it does not seem to have the hype that you would
 expect out of such a well known franchise.  Do you guys think it will be
 any good?  I'm really worried after the glory of Castlevania: SOTN....I'm
 afraid of a big let down.
 
 Stryder >>


	Maybe they pulled "a Superman" with it.

--David

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From: *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:07:52 -0200

Games at dirt cheap prices ?!??!? What planet did you cay you were on. Shi=
t, I just bought 1080 [finally] and ot was cheap compared to the rest. It =
was $39.99. Turok II was $64.99. Most of the games hovered between $30 and=
 $70. But that was at Software ETC, and here on the East Coast. I would gi=
ve my left
nut to hook on games for as cheap as you say [$20]...shit- used maybe,...I=
 movin to where you are :)

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From: *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:11:14 -0200

Castlevania really kicked ass on teh original Nintendo. How does it rate o=
n the 64? What about Battle Tanks...is anyone playing that now??..They pla=
y the commercial for it every 5 minutes here [along with the Tomb Raider I=
I commercial].=20

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses! (Target)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:16:44 EST

In a message dated 1/22/99 11:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
zimmfam@redrose.net writes:

>  Man, I wish I had a Target closer than 2 hours away from where I live! And 
> as
>  for F-Zero X being cheaper, I would think that it'll be included with the 
> next Player's
>  Choice games.. Later.
>        
>  
>                           ZiG (Tim)

So is the Target in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:36:01 EST

In a message dated 1/23/99 12:13:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

> Does Castlevania 64 come out next week?  I really have not heard a whole
>  lot about this game...it does not seem to have the hype that you would
>  expect out of such a well known franchise.  Do you guys think it will be
>  any good?  I'm really worried after the glory of Castlevania: SOTN....I'm
>  afraid of a big let down.
>  
>  Stryder

Castlevania 64 ships on the 26th and will arrive on the 27th. At least that's
what the local TRU says. I'm not going to purchace it right away. It may be
great, but I'm not taking chances with it since Konami's N64 offerings have
been less than grand. I mean Martial Champions was a great fighter (Konami
Coin-Op & PC Engine CD) but Deadly Arts didn't even diserve the 1.0 EGM gave
it. A friend of mine in getting Castlevania the day it comes out so I'll play
his too see if its any good. I agree that Castlevania 64 (I know there is no
64 in the title but I'll say "64" to avoid confusion) has a lot to live up to
after Symphony of the Night. But there is hope since Castlevania was developed
by the same division of Konami that made Metal Gear Solid & Castlevania SOTN.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:41:48 EST

In a message dated 1/23/99 12:53:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ReadERROR@warzone.com writes:

> Castlevania really kicked (butt) on (the) original Nintendo. How does it
rate on 
> the 64? What about Battle Tanks...is anyone playing that now??..They play
the 
> commercial for it every 5 minutes here [along with the Tomb Raider II 
> commercial]. 

hmm. since Castlevania 64 isn't even out yet it's hard to rate it. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Game Boy Color
Date: 23 Jan 1999 02:05:20 EST

If anybody on the list has yet to get a Game Boy Color, be sure to check this
out
<A HREF="http://www.nintendo.com/gb/smb/index.html">Click here: Nintendo:
Super Mario Bros.</A>
(http://www.nintendo.com/gb/smb/index.html)

I can't wait for this.

Trey

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Game Boy Color
Date: 23 Jan 1999 03:19:45 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> If anybody on the list has yet to get a Game Boy Color, be sure to check this
> out
> (http://www.nintendo.com/gb/smb/index.html)
> 
> I can't wait for this.

Wow, I did not know that was coming out.  I'll be getting that for sure!

Stryder


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From: catons@juno.com
Subject: [N64] Wow...
Date: 23 Jan 1999 10:07:40 -0500

  The list is buzzing with activity again... My computer's been down but
I finally got it started up again and found a bunch of posts.  
    I have a burning passion for RPG's, and I'm wondering what's coming
out that's worth buying...  I'm also considering buying a Pokemon game
for GB, but isn't there more than one?  Which one's the best? Thanks...

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] list members, futue games
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:27:56 -0500



Vi wrote:

> >  Trey's here. D Fenti is here. Greg is still here.
> > Ian is here, Styder is here
>
> I feel like we are part of a family here.  This is nice.  As long as
> nintendo is around and this list still exist, I'll still be here.
>
> I'm not really looking forward to any N64 games.  there's nothing that's
> really special right now.  There's still games I'm playing right now that
> is taking me time.  Zelda, Mgs, Xenogear, Turok2, Baldur's Gate, and Abe2.
> yeah, I play on all platforms including pc.  The types I'm looking for
> are rpg and  multiplayer games.  So I guess I am kinda looking forward to
> Mario Party, Smash Bro,

You bet you should be looking forward to Smash Brothers.  I got ahold of the
import and have been playing the hell out of it lately.  Tons of fun, let me
tell you.  And since it is about all in English like F-Zero X, an EXTREMELY
worthy import.  Because, of course, Nintendo hasn't even officially announced
that it will be released in the US yet.

> and Earthbound.   Earthbound64 seem so far
> away I don't even want to think about it.
>
> -Vi
> ICQ: 3156647
> AIM: Vivi113
>
> "Too many games, too little time"
>
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses! (Target)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:46:04 +0000

> From:          TreyTable@aol.com
> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:16:44 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...thanks for the responses! (Target)
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> In a message dated 1/22/99 11:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> zimmfam@redrose.net writes:
> 
> >  Man, I wish I had a Target closer than 2 hours away from where I live! And 
> > as
> >  for F-Zero X being cheaper, I would think that it'll be included with the 
> > next Player's
> >  Choice games.. Later.
> >        
> >  
> >                           ZiG (Tim)
> 
> So is the Target in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia?
> 
> Trey
> 

     Neither, those would probably be even farther away. The closest one I found was
I think at Exton.. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:48:00 +0000

> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:27:56 -0500
> From:          "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] list members, futue games
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> 
> You bet you should be looking forward to Smash Brothers.  I got ahold of the
> import and have been playing the hell out of it lately.  Tons of fun, let me
> tell you.  And since it is about all in English like F-Zero X, an EXTREMELY
> worthy import.  Because, of course, Nintendo hasn't even officially announced
> that it will be released in the US yet.
> 
 
      How much did you get it for? And how does it compare to other fighters? Also,
one more question, how is the 4-player mode? Thanks.. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Cheap Game Prices (was Wipeout 64)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:53:58 +0000

> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:07:52 -0200
> From:          *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Wipeout 64...worth it?
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Games at dirt cheap prices ?!??!? What planet did you cay you were on. 
>(Crap), I just bought 1080 [finally] and ot was cheap compared to the rest. 
>It was $39.99. Turok II was $64.99. Most of the games
> hovered between 
>$30 and $70. But that was at Software ETC, and here on the East Coast. I would 
>give my left  nut to hook on games for as cheap as you say [$20]...(crap)- used 
>maybe,...I movin to where you are :)
> 

      Software Etc. always has bad prices. Check out Best Buy, Wal-Mart and even
EB for some decent prices. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Cheap Game Prices (was Wipeout 64)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 13:00:05 EST

Actually, for low prices I recommend the following: Target, Wal-Mart, Best
Buy, and a local Blockbuster. However, by far and best, is Target. They
frequently cut down the prices quietly, the only problem is finding the right
game. 

Best Buy is second in competition, also putting on quiet sales. Fighter's
Destiny for example, can be bought for around $30 right now if I recall
correctly. 

And then comes Wal-Mart, and finally Blockbuster...they sell used games, but
they're almost always just two or three different ones. Blast Corps, Forsaken,
and a few others re ones I've spotted for $30 there. EB isn't the place to
shop for game prices, merely games you can't find.

The best bargains come on games that don't get lots of publicity and are
really good: sleeper hits if you will. Fighter's Destiny, Forsaken, and even
Blast Corps I find on sale a lot. Not to mention Wetrix.

!!

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
Date: 23 Jan 1999 13:42:31 +0000

> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:07:40 -0500
> Subject:       [N64] Wow...
> From:          catons@juno.com
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

>   The list is buzzing with activity again... My computer's been down but
> I finally got it started up again and found a bunch of posts.  
>     I have a burning passion for RPG's, and I'm wondering what's coming
> out that's worth buying...  I'm also considering buying a Pokemon game
> for GB, but isn't there more than one?  Which one's the best? Thanks...
> 

      Well, not a whole lot of RPG's coming, unfortunately.  But there a couple ones
that look like they could turn out good. Hybrid Heaven by Konami looks pretty good,
it's set in the future and is turn-based, the graphics supposedly aren't all that great,
but the deep story and the cutscenes should make up for it.. And then that game
that's being made in Japan (Doshin something, I think) where you play a giant that
goes around helping out humans that are smaller than you, could turn out to be a 
lot of fun. And then there's also Earthbound 64, Ogre Battle 64, Super Mario RPG
and that RPG being made by H20 (who also made Tetrisphere) that should all turn
out good. There's some more, but that's all I can remember off the top of my head.
      And then about Pokemon, there's a bunch in Japan, but so far here only the one
with the two versions and the upcoming Pokemon Pinball. Hope that helped.. 
See ya later, man.

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 23 Jan 1999 11:07:12 PST

I think that re-releasing SMB1 has a secondary benefit to Nintendo: it 
provides a valid arguement against computer emulation (remember the 
"Companies may decide to re-release games, and companies will lose 
potential money to emulators... (blah blah blah)" and nobody thought of 
it as a valid arguement.  Looks like Nintendo's got "Exibit Number 1" 
now!  :)  Now to mention all of the "arcade classics."

Moblin 64

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:37:16 PST

Nintendo's also working on a new pokemon game with over 100 or 200 NEW 
pokemon.  I believe it will be for the color gameboy, but no news about 
a US release yet.  When I find the article, I post the address to the 
list.

elliot


>From: zimmfam@redrose.net
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:42:31 +0000
>Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
>> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:07:40 -0500
>> Subject:       [N64] Wow...
>> From:          catons@juno.com
>> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>>   The list is buzzing with activity again... My computer's been down 
but
>> I finally got it started up again and found a bunch of posts.  
>>     I have a burning passion for RPG's, and I'm wondering what's 
coming
>> out that's worth buying...  I'm also considering buying a Pokemon 
game
>> for GB, but isn't there more than one?  Which one's the best? 
Thanks...
>> 
>
>      Well, not a whole lot of RPG's coming, unfortunately.  But there 
a couple ones
>that look like they could turn out good. Hybrid Heaven by Konami looks 
pretty good,
>it's set in the future and is turn-based, the graphics supposedly 
aren't all that great,
>but the deep story and the cutscenes should make up for it.. And then 
that game
>that's being made in Japan (Doshin something, I think) where you play a 
giant that
>goes around helping out humans that are smaller than you, could turn 
out to be a 
>lot of fun. And then there's also Earthbound 64, Ogre Battle 64, Super 
Mario RPG
>and that RPG being made by H20 (who also made Tetrisphere) that should 
all turn
>out good. There's some more, but that's all I can remember off the top 
of my head.
>      And then about Pokemon, there's a bunch in Japan, but so far here 
only the one
>with the two versions and the upcoming Pokemon Pinball. Hope that 
helped.. 
>See ya later, man.
>
>                         ZiG (Tim)
>                         ICQ UIN: 606350
>                         AOL IM: Zig15
> 
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:47:09 PST

Maybe that's why nintendo rejected the portable NES someone developed 
years ago, because they wantd to do it themselves.

IMO, Nintendo is going to redo a lot of other NES games for the color 
game boy.  I wonder if other companies will redo some of their original 
NES games for the color gameboy.   1942, TMNT, Super Metroid are games I 
would definately buy.  The But, as for original NES games, I don't think 
I want SMB1.  My NES still works and I can't see paying $20-25 bucks for 
a game that I can get for about $0.49 at funcoland. 

elliot


>From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:07:12 PST
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>I think that re-releasing SMB1 has a secondary benefit to Nintendo: it 
>provides a valid arguement against computer emulation (remember the 
>"Companies may decide to re-release games, and companies will lose 
>potential money to emulators... (blah blah blah)" and nobody thought of 
>it as a valid arguement.  Looks like Nintendo's got "Exibit Number 1" 
>now!  :)  Now to mention all of the "arcade classics."
>
>Moblin 64
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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
Date: 23 Jan 1999 18:28:21 +0000

> From:          "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Wow...
> Date:          Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:37:16 PST
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Nintendo's also working on a new pokemon game with over 100 or 200 NEW 
> pokemon.  I believe it will be for the color gameboy, but no news about 
> a US release yet.  When I find the article, I post the address to the 
> list.
> 
> elliot
> 

    Yeah, I think I read that, too, on videogames.com or some place like that, but
didn't it say it was gonna be for the N64? 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: catons@juno.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:14:27 -0500

Well, I bought Pokemon (Red version) for GB this afternoon, and I haven't
put it down yet... (Except for occasional bathroom breaks and a bite to
eat) Addictive? YES...  I'd encourage anyone considering to buy it to go
ahead.(Of course I'm not that far into the game so what do I know?)  :-) 
 			-Peter

>
>> Nintendo's also working on a new pokemon game with over 100 or 200 
>NEW 
>> pokemon.  I believe it will be for the color gameboy, but no news 
>about 
>> a US release yet.  When I find the article, I post the address to 
>the 
>> list.
>> 
>> elliot
>> 
>
>    Yeah, I think I read that, too, on videogames.com or some place 
>like that, but
>didn't it say it was gonna be for the N64? 
>
>                         ZiG (Tim)
>                         ICQ UIN: 606350
>                         AOL IM: Zig15
> 
>

>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pok=E9mon?=
Date: 23 Jan 1999 23:07:42 EST

Ah, yes. See, the delight of the Game Boy is that you don't have to stop
playing during bathroom breaks ... I mean ... yeah, Pok=E9mon is great, hu=
h?
Well, a problem has arisen on the N64 that I personally hate but am happy =
that
happened anyway: there are too many games. After getting about 4 games wit=
hin
one month, there's no way I can possibly buy all the games I want. Oh well=
.
I'm glad that there are finally TOO many good games for the N64.

~Matt

<<Well, I bought Pok=E9mon (Red version) for GB this afternoon, and I have=
n't
put it down yet... (Except for occasional bathroom breaks and a bite to
eat) Addictive? YES...  I'd encourage anyone considering to buy it to go
ahead.(Of course I'm not that far into the game so what do I know?)  :-) 
 =09=09=09-Peter>>


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 24 Jan 1999 20:57:43 +1100

At 12:27 23-01-99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>You bet you should be looking forward to Smash Brothers.  I got ahold of the
>import and have been playing the hell out of it lately.  Tons of fun, let me
>tell you.  And since it is about all in English like F-Zero X, an EXTREMELY
>worthy import.  Because, of course, Nintendo hasn't even officially announced
>that it will be released in the US yet.
>


How is Smash Brothers as a single player game? Does the game have much
depth? You don't just stand in the corner and mash out projectiles do you?
Please give us some more info on this game.


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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: [N64] Smash Brothers: Short Review
Date: 24 Jan 1999 10:06:31 -0500

Upon turning on the game, you are shown a very cool intro sequence.
Kinda showing all the characters, and lots of small cinemas of them.

Press Start on the main screen and you can pick from 1P Mode, Vs Mode,
Option, and Data.  Options allows you to mess with the sound and screen
adjustment, and in Data you can check out all the fighters.  Pick 1P and
you can choose from 1P Game, or Training Mode (you can also pick bonus 1
or 2 practice, but I will tell about those later).  Hit 1P Game and its
time to choose your character.  Mario, D. Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi,
Kirby, Fox, and Pikachu.  The characters heads are arranged in boxes,
with two rows of six.  There are 4 spaces that have ? marks in them, so
I assume they are the hidden characters.  I pick Samus, and choose my
difficulty as normal.

It then shows the Vs screen, and my first opponent is Link.  You can
also at the top see a pathway showing all the fights you will have to
play.  A loud voice counts down 3, 2, 1, Go! and we start.  The main
objective when beating an opponent is to make them fall of the battle
arena.  But these are sometimes large, especially Links, for his I
assume is on top of Hyrule Castle.  When knocked off by an attack, you
can sometimes use your jump button in mid air to get back on.  But if
not, you lose one of your five lives and teleport back into the battle.
If your opponent gets knocked off, you win.  Health is measured at the
bottom in terms of percent damaged. Usually after their past 100% and
you knock them off, they won't get back on.

Controls in the game for Samus are: A:Punch, B:Build up Gun Power,
Z:Shield, and C-Left:jump.  May not seem like a lot, but there are TONS
of special moves to be pulled off.  Shouldar slams, projectile attacks,
drop kicks, and use of other things like Bombs.  Believe me, they are
very cool.

Another very neat thing is how weapons are thrown onto the battle
arenas.  Kinda like MK4, but not quite.  Barrels and boxes will fall,
and when you break them open you can get powerups or health.  Powerups
include laser guns, giant hammers, light saber-like swords, a magic wand
that you hit someone with and they fly a long ways away, and a fire
flower that you shoot fire out of like a blow torch.

One of the neatest power up is a Pokemon ball thing.  I don't play
Pokemon that much, so I don't know any names, but when you activate it,
different ones will come out.  This stone like pokemon will fly up into
the sky and drop rocks onto the whole arena, and they are some others
that will come out and shoot things.

Another sweet addition to the game is team battles.  After defeating
Link, I am fighting Yoshi team.  Three Yoshis at a time will be fighting
against me, but it is not as hard as it sounds.  Yoshis home turf looks
just like something taken out of Yoshis Story, and I am pretty sure the
music is out of YS.  The Yoshis are a little easier because when you
knock them off they dont come back.  You can see at the top of the
screen how many you have left.

There are other types of team battles too.  One is me and a random
fighter (this time its Pikachu) vs Mario team (Mario and Luigi).  Music
is the tradition music you think of when thinking of the NES Mario
games.  Marios home turf in at a castle kind of thing, with two levels.

The battlepath is like this.  You first fight Link on top of Hyrule
Castle.  Then you are against the Yoshi team at the Yoshi arena.  Next
is against Fox on top of the Great Fox or whatever in the middle of
space. (Sector X maybe?  havent played star fox lately).  Music again is
recognized from Star Fox 64.  Next is a bonus stage where you run around
trying to bust all the targets before time is up.  Mario team is next
which I described above.  Next is against Pikachu on top of a building,
which raising and lowering platforms on the sides.  The next battle is
really fun....it is me, Link, and DK versus Giant Donkey Kong.  This guy
is HUGE.  We all are trying to whup him at the same time.  The DK has
very recognizable music from DKC on SNES.  The stage is on bamboo
platforms in the tree tops.  Bonus stage 2 is next where you run around
attempting to jump on a bunch of platforms....  Next is Kirby team.  Now
these guys are tough..when you are playing as Kirby, you can suck in
your opponent, and become him.  Like suck in Mario, you will be Kirby
with a Mario hat, and have all the skills of Mario.  Next is Samus
versus Samus....then there is a round against the starge purple
creatures.  The preliminary boss is against Metal Mario, then you fight
this big hand.  The hand can't be knocked off....you have to lower its
health.  And it has a lot.  After I beat the game on Normal, I opened up
one secret character...a pink fluff ball like Pikachu named Purin.  I
assume it is too a Pokemon.

So overall, the one player mode is an experience.  It is extremely fun.
I will be reporting later on multiplayer.  Let's just say if you see
this for $60 or less somewhere like tronixweb.com or buyrite1.com, I
would recomment getting it.




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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Wow...
Date: 24 Jan 1999 14:26:42 EST

In a message dated 1/23/99 7:17:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

<< Well, I bought Pokemon (Red version) for GB this afternoon, and I haven't
 put it down yet... (Except for occasional bathroom breaks and a bite to
 eat) Addictive? YES...  I'd encourage anyone considering to buy it to go
 ahead.(Of course I'm not that far into the game so what do I know?)  :-) 
  			-Peter
  >>

	
	Do me a favor, and when you get to Victory Road, TELL ME HOW IN THE HECK TO
GET THROUGH THERE!  I've been stuck in the same place for a week!

--David

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 24 Jan 1999 14:31:58 -0600

Who is still playing Turok 2?  I think this game is the longest I have
ever played.  I am still on the third level (rescued 5 prisoners and
blown up 1 ammo dump) but the reason why it takes so long is because I
will play for 45 minutes and then I'll have to go somewhere and turn it
off (stupid save points are so frigging far apart).  Acclaim should have
made a save thing like in Zelda.  Anyone actually like the save point
thing?

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 24 Jan 1999 16:15:08 EST

I think it's an easy way to make the game harder. Too bad it's not a good way.
I'm on the Lair of the Blind Ones right now. Damn. This level is so damn huge,
and confusing. Every other second there is a fork in the cave letting me
either go straight into a portal or go left into a hole. Damn Iguana. Oh well,
it's fun.

~Matt

<<Who is still playing Turok 2?  I think this game is the longest I have
ever played.  I am still on the third level (rescued 5 prisoners and
blown up 1 ammo dump) but the reason why it takes so long is because I
will play for 45 minutes and then I'll have to go somewhere and turn it
off (stupid save points are so frigging far apart).  Acclaim should have
made a save thing like in Zelda.  Anyone actually like the save point
thing?>>

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 24 Jan 1999 18:49:27 EST

I'm collecting Primagen Keys as it stands. Up to a whopping total of 2...after
an hour and a half of working thru levels.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 24 Jan 1999 18:03:17 -0600 (CST)

On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, D Fentie wrote:

> Who is still playing Turok 2?  I think this game is the longest I have
> ever played.  I am still on the third level (rescued 5 prisoners and
> blown up 1 ammo dump) but the reason why it takes so long is because I
> will play for 45 minutes and then I'll have to go somewhere and turn it
> off (stupid save points are so frigging far apart).  Acclaim should have
> made a save thing like in Zelda.  Anyone actually like the save point
> thing?

I don't mind the save points, but, like you, I do not like how far apart
they are.  There were times when I would start at a save point and play
for an hour or so and still not be at the next save point. Then I
would have to go somewhere so I would have to backtrack all the way back
to my last save point.  Kind of annoying.

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From: "Mike Edwards" <zelda_vs_link@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers: Short Review
Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:58:37 PST

Wow! very descriptive!  Thanks!

I am new to the list here, I think I know some of you from GameNation, 
but I don't really know.  

This might be off topic, but I am new and Want to say Hi!

Iron Man 5


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>Upon turning on the game, you are shown a very cool intro sequence.
>Kinda showing all the characters, and lots of small cinemas of them.
>
>Press Start on the main screen and you can pick from 1P Mode, Vs Mode,
>Option, and Data.  Options allows you to mess with the sound and screen
>adjustment, and in Data you can check out all the fighters.  Pick 1P 
and
>you can choose from 1P Game, or Training Mode (you can also pick bonus 
1
>or 2 practice, but I will tell about those later).  Hit 1P Game and its
>time to choose your character.  Mario, D. Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi,
>Kirby, Fox, and Pikachu.  The characters heads are arranged in boxes,
>with two rows of six.  There are 4 spaces that have ? marks in them, so
>I assume they are the hidden characters.  I pick Samus, and choose my
>difficulty as normal.
>
>It then shows the Vs screen, and my first opponent is Link.  You can
>also at the top see a pathway showing all the fights you will have to
>play.  A loud voice counts down 3, 2, 1, Go! and we start.  The main
>objective when beating an opponent is to make them fall of the battle
>arena.  But these are sometimes large, especially Links, for his I
>assume is on top of Hyrule Castle.  When knocked off by an attack, you
>can sometimes use your jump button in mid air to get back on.  But if
>not, you lose one of your five lives and teleport back into the battle.
>If your opponent gets knocked off, you win.  Health is measured at the
>bottom in terms of percent damaged. Usually after their past 100% and
>you knock them off, they won't get back on.
>
>Controls in the game for Samus are: A:Punch, B:Build up Gun Power,
>Z:Shield, and C-Left:jump.  May not seem like a lot, but there are TONS
>of special moves to be pulled off.  Shouldar slams, projectile attacks,
>drop kicks, and use of other things like Bombs.  Believe me, they are
>very cool.
>
>Another very neat thing is how weapons are thrown onto the battle
>arenas.  Kinda like MK4, but not quite.  Barrels and boxes will fall,
>and when you break them open you can get powerups or health.  Powerups
>include laser guns, giant hammers, light saber-like swords, a magic 
wand
>that you hit someone with and they fly a long ways away, and a fire
>flower that you shoot fire out of like a blow torch.
>
>One of the neatest power up is a Pokemon ball thing.  I don't play
>Pokemon that much, so I don't know any names, but when you activate it,
>different ones will come out.  This stone like pokemon will fly up into
>the sky and drop rocks onto the whole arena, and they are some others
>that will come out and shoot things.
>
>Another sweet addition to the game is team battles.  After defeating
>Link, I am fighting Yoshi team.  Three Yoshis at a time will be 
fighting
>against me, but it is not as hard as it sounds.  Yoshis home turf looks
>just like something taken out of Yoshis Story, and I am pretty sure the
>music is out of YS.  The Yoshis are a little easier because when you
>knock them off they dont come back.  You can see at the top of the
>screen how many you have left.
>
>There are other types of team battles too.  One is me and a random
>fighter (this time its Pikachu) vs Mario team (Mario and Luigi).  Music
>is the tradition music you think of when thinking of the NES Mario
>games.  Marios home turf in at a castle kind of thing, with two levels.
>
>The battlepath is like this.  You first fight Link on top of Hyrule
>Castle.  Then you are against the Yoshi team at the Yoshi arena.  Next
>is against Fox on top of the Great Fox or whatever in the middle of
>space. (Sector X maybe?  havent played star fox lately).  Music again 
is
>recognized from Star Fox 64.  Next is a bonus stage where you run 
around
>trying to bust all the targets before time is up.  Mario team is next
>which I described above.  Next is against Pikachu on top of a building,
>which raising and lowering platforms on the sides.  The next battle is
>really fun....it is me, Link, and DK versus Giant Donkey Kong.  This 
guy
>is HUGE.  We all are trying to whup him at the same time.  The DK has
>very recognizable music from DKC on SNES.  The stage is on bamboo
>platforms in the tree tops.  Bonus stage 2 is next where you run around
>attempting to jump on a bunch of platforms....  Next is Kirby team.  
Now
>these guys are tough..when you are playing as Kirby, you can suck in
>your opponent, and become him.  Like suck in Mario, you will be Kirby
>with a Mario hat, and have all the skills of Mario.  Next is Samus
>versus Samus....then there is a round against the starge purple
>creatures.  The preliminary boss is against Metal Mario, then you fight
>this big hand.  The hand can't be knocked off....you have to lower its
>health.  And it has a lot.  After I beat the game on Normal, I opened 
up
>one secret character...a pink fluff ball like Pikachu named Purin.  I
>assume it is too a Pokemon.
>
>So overall, the one player mode is an experience.  It is extremely fun.
>I will be reporting later on multiplayer.  Let's just say if you see
>this for $60 or less somewhere like tronixweb.com or buyrite1.com, I
>would recomment getting it.
>
>
>
>
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From: "Mike Edwards" <zelda_vs_link@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 24 Jan 1999 18:07:39 PST

I personally like the emulators and roms, I have tons of old Nintendo 
Classics on my PC.

Iron Man 5

P.S. Wezza is cool =^)


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>I think that re-releasing SMB1 has a secondary benefit to Nintendo: it 
>provides a valid arguement against computer emulation (remember the 
>"Companies may decide to re-release games, and companies will lose 
>potential money to emulators... (blah blah blah)" and nobody thought of 
>it as a valid arguement.  Looks like Nintendo's got "Exibit Number 1" 
>now!  :)  Now to mention all of the "arcade classics."
>
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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: [N64] DexDrive
Date: 24 Jan 1999 21:17:21 -0500

I believe we covered this a short time ago, but does anyone know the
DexDrive's official release date?  And isn't the PSX one already out?


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] DexDrive
Date: 24 Jan 1999 22:27:08 EST

In a message dated 1/24/99 6:20:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, wesday@saa.net
writes:

<< I believe we covered this a short time ago, but does anyone know the
 DexDrive's official release date?  And isn't the PSX one already out?
  >>


	I thought they came out right after Christmas???

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 24 Jan 1999 23:59:56 EST

In a message dated 1/23/99 3:48:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, eljam@hotmail.com
writes:

> IMO, Nintendo is going to redo a lot of other NES games for the color 
>  game boy.  I wonder if other companies will redo some of their original 
>  NES games for the color gameboy.   1942, TMNT, Super Metroid are games I 
>  would definately buy.  The But, as for original NES games, I don't think 
>  I want SMB1.  My NES still works and I can't see paying $20-25 bucks for 
>  a game that I can get for about $0.49 at funcoland. 
>  
>  elliot
>  

Super Metroid was for the SNES... It'd be nice if Konami released Castlevania
3 or if Rare put out Wizards & Warriors for the GBC. I heard Shadowgate is
also coming out for the GBC, I hope that too is the same (or as close as
possible) as the NES game. But TMNT? I could never get past those impossible
sewer jumps in Level 3. I really hope Nintendo releases Kid Icarus Zelda 1 & 2
for the GBC.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers: Short Review
Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:08:33 EST

In a message dated 1/24/99 10:10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, wesday@saa.net
writes:

> Controls in the game for Samus are: A: Punch, B: Build up Gun Power,
>  Z: Shield, and C-Left: jump.  May not seem like a lot, but there are TONS
>  of special moves to be pulled off.  Shoulder slams, projectile attacks,
>  drop kicks, and use of other things like Bombs.  Believe me, they are
>  very cool.

So I take it you use the analog stick and not the digital pad? 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:22:40 EST

In a message dated 1/24/99 9:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
zelda_vs_link@hotmail.com writes:

> I personally like the emulators and roms, I have tons of old Nintendo 
>  Classics on my PC.
>  
>  Iron Man 5
>  

Iron Man is dead. Tony Stark died a few years back. Avengers 395 (Feb 1996) to
be exact. And last time I checked there were only 4 Iron Mans 1. Tony Stark,
2. Jim Rhodes (aka War Machine), 3. that Irish guy (forget his name), 4. Arno
Stark (the Iron Man of 2020.

Sorry for the off topic post. I just can't stand to see my favorite comic book
hero of all time be mocked.

Rest in Peace Shellhead

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] DexDrive
Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:23:54 EST

In a message dated 1/24/99 9:20:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, wesday@saa.net
writes:

> I believe we covered this a short time ago, but does anyone know the
>  DexDrive's official release date?  And isn't the PSX one already out?

The PlayStation Dex Drive is out. Why not check www.gameshark.com for a
release date of the N64 one.

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 24 Jan 1999 23:38:00 -0600

I personally am more of a silver surfer type guy... are there any Marvel
games on N64 coming?

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/24/99 9:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> zelda_vs_link@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> > I personally like the emulators and roms, I have tons of old Nintendo
> >  Classics on my PC.
> >
> >  Iron Man 5
> >
> 
> Iron Man is dead. Tony Stark died a few years back. Avengers 395 (Feb 1996) to
> be exact. And last time I checked there were only 4 Iron Mans 1. Tony Stark,
> 2. Jim Rhodes (aka War Machine), 3. that Irish guy (forget his name), 4. Arno
> Stark (the Iron Man of 2020.
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post. I just can't stand to see my favorite comic book
> hero of all time be mocked.
> 
> Rest in Peace Shellhead
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 01:37:07 EST

In a message dated 1/24/99 9:36:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< I personally am more of a silver surfer type guy... are there any Marvel
 games on N64 coming?
  >>


	Yes, a Spider-Man game is coming our sometime this Fall, I think.

--David

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From: " Robert L. Horine" <rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 07:47:10 -0500 (EST)

And a x-men fighter.

You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net 
or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/24/99 9:36:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
> writes:
> 
> << I personally am more of a silver surfer type guy... are there any Marvel
>  games on N64 coming?
>   >>
> 
> 
> 	Yes, a Spider-Man game is coming our sometime this Fall, I think.
> 
> --David
> 
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 08:58:46 PST

Super Metroid ?  I was getting carried away...
Kid Icarus ?  Yep.
Oh, and the original Metal Gear would be nice too...


elliot


>From: TreyTable@aol.com
>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:59:56 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>In a message dated 1/23/99 3:48:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
eljam@hotmail.com
>writes:
>
>> IMO, Nintendo is going to redo a lot of other NES games for the color 
>>  game boy.  I wonder if other companies will redo some of their 
original 
>>  NES games for the color gameboy.   1942, TMNT, Super Metroid are 
games I 
>>  would definately buy.  The But, as for original NES games, I don't 
think 
>>  I want SMB1.  My NES still works and I can't see paying $20-25 bucks 
for 
>>  a game that I can get for about $0.49 at funcoland. 
>>  
>>  elliot
>>  
>
>Super Metroid was for the SNES... It'd be nice if Konami released 
Castlevania
>3 or if Rare put out Wizards & Warriors for the GBC. I heard Shadowgate 
is
>also coming out for the GBC, I hope that too is the same (or as close 
as
>possible) as the NES game. But TMNT? I could never get past those 
impossible
>sewer jumps in Level 3. I really hope Nintendo releases Kid Icarus 
Zelda 1 & 2
>for the GBC.
>
>Trey
>
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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 09:01:46 PST

Well, there's a X-men game on the way.  I can't remember if it was 
announced or rumored, but Spiderman was also talked about too.

elliot


>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:38:00 -0600
>From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>I personally am more of a silver surfer type guy... are there any 
Marvel
>games on N64 coming?
>
>TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> In a message dated 1/24/99 9:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> zelda_vs_link@hotmail.com writes:
>> 
>> > I personally like the emulators and roms, I have tons of old 
Nintendo
>> >  Classics on my PC.
>> >
>> >  Iron Man 5
>> >
>> 
>> Iron Man is dead. Tony Stark died a few years back. Avengers 395 (Feb 
1996) to
>> be exact. And last time I checked there were only 4 Iron Mans 1. Tony 
Stark,
>> 2. Jim Rhodes (aka War Machine), 3. that Irish guy (forget his name), 
4. Arno
>> Stark (the Iron Man of 2020.
>> 
>> Sorry for the off topic post. I just can't stand to see my favorite 
comic book
>> hero of all time be mocked.
>> 
>> Rest in Peace Shellhead
>> 
>> Trey
>> 
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Metal Gear on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:35:59 EST

In a message dated 1/25/99 12:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
eljam@hotmail.com writes:

> Super Metroid ?  I was getting carried away...
>  Kid Icarus ?  Yep.
>  Oh, and the original Metal Gear would be nice too...
>  
>  
>  elliot

I'd like to see "Metal Gear 2 : Solid Snake" also (not "Snake's Revenge") on
the GBC. Now that I think about it, an all new Metal Gear game would do me
just fine as well.

Trey

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:13:48 -0600

What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
short easy levels"?

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:21:13 -0700

Personally, I'd prefer many (relatively) short hard levels.

Greg

D Fentie wrote:
> 
> What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
> short easy levels"?
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:01:27 EST

Yes sir, there are. An X-Men fighting game and a Spider Man game, most likely
a platformer.

I myself like the X-Men, but interest in waning.

And Trey, am I incorrect in saying that the Hero's Return storyline (after the
whole Onslaught thing) cleared up the whole Stark continuity? Or am I sadly
mistaken?

~Matt

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:05:50 EST

Oh, definitely longer, harder, fewer levels. I hated South park for making me
trudge through the first 3 levels before there was any real challenge.

~Matt

<<What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
short easy levels"?>>

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From: "Moblin 64" <moblin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Metal Gear on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:38:16 PST


>I'd like to see "Metal Gear 2 : Solid Snake" also (not "Snake's 
>Revenge") on the GBC. Now that I think about it, an all new Metal 
>Gear game would do me just fine as well.
>
>Trey

There's a difference?  I always thought that Metal Gear 2 and Snake's 
Revenge refered to the same game!  So, is Snake's Revenge sort of a 
"Metal Gear 3?"  I had that game once.  I rescued a few hostages, but 
for the life of me I couldn't get into the building.  I needed a keycard 
that I couldn't find, or something.

If someone can walk me through it, I might just buy it again.  After 
all, the local rental place is finally selling their NES games for $5 
apiece.  I'm gonna go get me some bargains! :)

Moblin 64

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:19:53 EST

In a message dated 1/25/99 3:12:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

> What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
>  short easy levels"?
>  

Neither. I like many smart levels. Levels that require technique (moreso in
later levels) rather than short easy levels (Yoshi's Story) or long hard (see:
Cheap) levels like Heart of Darkness. But mostly I like games that aren't
broken up into levels but where it's all connected like in Super Metroid or
Castlevania : SOTN. Mind you I'm just talking about platformers.

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:22:39 EST

In a message dated 1/25/99 4:06:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

> And Trey, am I incorrect in saying that the Hero's Return storyline (after 
> the
>  whole Onslaught thing) cleared up the whole Stark continuity? Or am I sadly
>  mistaken?

I stopped reading after Stark died. 

Isn't Activision making the N64 X-Men game? Or are they just publishing it?

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Metal Gear on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:28:24 EST

In a message dated 1/25/99 4:39:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
moblin@hotmail.com writes:

> There's a difference?  I always thought that Metal Gear 2 and Snake's 
>  Revenge referred to the same game!  So, is Snake's Revenge sort of a 
>  "Metal Gear 3?"  I had that game once.  I rescued a few hostages, but 
>  for the life of me I couldn't get into the building.  I needed a keycard 
>  that I couldn't find, or something.
>  
>  If someone can walk me through it, I might just buy it again.  After 
>  all, the local rental place is finally selling their NES games for $5 
>  apiece.  I'm gonna go get me some bargains! :)
>  
>  Moblin 64

From what I gathered from Metal Gear Solid and related web page & magazine
articles the true sequel to Metal Gear (NES) was Metal Gear 2 : Solid Snake
(FamiCom). We Americans (and Canadians) got a spin off game called Snake's
Revenge. Sort of like how Lifeforce (Salamander) wasn't the sequel to Gradius,
but a spin off. I don't know. Maybe that's a bad example.

Trey

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:35:04 -0500


Is Trey also our resident comic book storyline authority as well as video
game history guru?

>And Trey, am I incorrect in saying that the Hero's Return storyline (after
the
>whole Onslaught thing) cleared up the whole Stark continuity? Or am I sadly
>mistaken?
>
>~Matt



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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:44:52 EST

In a message dated 1/25/99 5:38:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> Is Trey also our resident comic book storyline authority as well as video
>  game history guru?

'fraid not.

Excelsior!

Trey

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: [N64] X-men (was:SMB1 on Game Boy Color)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:45:11 -0500

It is being made by Syrox, who also made that update to Asteroids for PSX.
Activision is the publisher.


>Isn't Activision making the N64 X-Men game? Or are they just publishing it?
>
>Trey
>



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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:52:25 +0000

> From:          TreyTable@aol.com
> Date:          Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:22:39 EST
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       Re: [N64] SMB1 on Game Boy Color
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> In a message dated 1/25/99 4:06:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Bastion007@aol.com writes:
> 
> > And Trey, am I incorrect in saying that the Hero's Return storyline (after 
> > the
> >  whole Onslaught thing) cleared up the whole Stark continuity? Or am I sadly
> >  mistaken?
> 
> I stopped reading after Stark died. 
> 
> Isn't Activision making the N64 X-Men game? Or are they just publishing it?
> 
> Trey
> 


    Umm.. I think their just publishing it, Sapphire (if I remember right) is developing 
it. And according to Nintendorks, Spider-Man 3D might not come out at all because
Activision can't find a developer for it. That'll be sad if they can't, a Spidey game in
3D would kick, but then again we all know how most games based on licenses turn
out.... 

                         ZiG (Tim)
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                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: Chris Clark <ChrisC@atitech.com>
Subject: [N64] RE: n64-just a question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:03:24 -0500

Of long or short levels, I would definately prefer short ones.  Ideally
the difficulty would be adjustable too.  
In a perfect world though, games would have more of a storyline and not
need to be broken up into levels.  That's why Half Life is so great -
you can save anywhere and all the levels flow together.
After my sessions with Turok 2, I have had it with long, hard, and
confusing levels that use save points.  The game is cool and all, but it
deters me from playing when I don't feel like investing my whole evening
in it.  At least with Zelda, I can run around for only 5 minutes or for
hours without accomplishing anything and not feel like I have wasted my
time.  With Turok 2, besides getting more familiar with a level, if I
don't find the next save point I feel like I might as well not have
played at all.  Extremely frustrating if you ask me.  If anything, the
save points seem farther apart than with Turok 1.  I have a feeling that
it will be one of those games that I either don't finish or use cheat
codes near the end just to get it over with.

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] X-men (was:SMB1 on Game Boy Color)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:08:01 +0000

> From:          "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] X-men (was:SMB1 on Game Boy Color)
> Date:          Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:45:11 -0500
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> It is being made by Syrox, who also made that update to Asteroids for PSX.
> Activision is the publisher.
> 
> 

    Oh yeah Syrox, that's right.. What is Sapphire making?

                         ZiG (Tim)
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] X-men (was:SMB1 on Game Boy Color)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:21:14 -0500

SaFFire is making the Xena and Hercules games. Thye made Bio-FREAKS in the
past.

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>> From:          "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
>> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>> Subject:       [N64] X-men (was:SMB1 on Game Boy Color)
>> Date:          Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:45:11 -0500
>> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
>
>> It is being made by Syrox, who also made that update to Asteroids for
PSX.
>> Activision is the publisher.
>>
>>
>
>    Oh yeah Syrox, that's right.. What is Sapphire making?
>
>                         ZiG (Tim)
>                         ICQ UIN: 606350
>                         AOL IM: Zig15
>
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:02:18 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote:

> Neither. I like many smart levels. Levels that require technique (moreso in
> later levels) rather than short easy levels (Yoshi's Story) or long hard (see:
> Cheap) levels like Heart of Darkness. But mostly I like games that aren't
> broken up into levels but where it's all connected like in Super Metroid or
> Castlevania : SOTN. Mind you I'm just talking about platformers.

I would have to agree completely.  I personally prefer having the whole
game be one huge level. 

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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Zelda
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:30:03 -0600 (CST)

Man ,that lady in kakariko village wants to buy things real bad.She
never even gets tired either.


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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Which game?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:32:35 -0600 (CST)

Should I get Turok2 1st or Rouge squadron?


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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Which game?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:23:38 -0500

Depends whether you like space flying games or and first person shooters
better.

LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:

> Should I get Turok2 1st or Rouge squadron?
>
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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:59 EST

I'm still playing T2. I just have 1 ammo dump to find on the 3rd level.
I was really just going through the level to check it out but ended up
reaching the end with all but 2 of the objectives completed. Releasing the
first prisoner, and the 1 ammo dump. You'll be glad to know that this level
is not as big as the first 2.

I agree that the save point thing is the worst. I once played level 2 for
hours before I came across that last save point near the end. Hopefully,
they'll change this in T3, which is suppose to be in the making according
to ign64.

> Who is still playing Turok 2?  I think this game is the longest I have
> ever played.  I am still on the third level (rescued 5 prisoners and
> blown up 1 ammo dump) but the reason why it takes so long is because I
> will play for 45 minutes and then I'll have to go somewhere and turn it
> off (stupid save points are so frigging far apart).  Acclaim should have
> made a save thing like in Zelda.  Anyone actually like the save point
> thing?

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Which game?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:51:08 -0600

I would say T2...

LittleKathy@webtv.net wrote:
> 
> Should I get Turok2 1st or Rouge squadron?
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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:36:12 +1100

At 14:13 25-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
>short easy levels"?

Depends on the game, but for an action game, definately many short hard
levels. Long and difficult levels just lead to frustration.

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 21:04:15 -0600

I like short easy levels...  ones that are just the right complexity and
toughness that you can beat them barely on the first time.  I hate
having to do things over.

Alex wrote:
> 
> At 14:13 25-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
> >What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
> >short easy levels"?
> 
> Depends on the game, but for an action game, definately many short hard
> levels. Long and difficult levels just lead to frustration.
> 
> alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au
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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:51:23 +1100

At 17:19 25-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/25/99 3:12:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
>writes:
>
>> What do you guys like better, "few long hard levels" in games or "many
>>  short easy levels"?
>>  
>
>Neither. I like many smart levels. Levels that require technique (moreso in
>later levels) rather than short easy levels (Yoshi's Story) or long hard (see:
>Cheap) levels like Heart of Darkness. But mostly I like games that aren't
>broken up into levels but where it's all connected like in Super Metroid or
>Castlevania : SOTN. Mind you I'm just talking about platformers.
>
>Trey
>

I'd classify Yoshi's Story as having long and easy levels, with small
sections of difficulty, leading to a very frustrating game. You did go for
all 30 melons didn't you?

Turok 2 tried to go for Super Metroid style levels but failed miserably.
Turok was an action game and they tried to "enhance" it by throwing in a
bunch of exploration elements without considering how it would effect the
rest of the game. 

A couple of things that Super Metroid did which Turok 2 failed to do:

Even though the enemies regenerate, you can get health and ammo pick-ups.
Infinate lives!!
No sudden death!
Level design was 1000x more intelligent. Ie, it is possible to play through
the game in under 3 hours, get all the items with minimal backtracking.
Don't need to get all the secrets to progress.
Lots of save points.



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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 14:21:19 +1100

At 21:04 25-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>I like short easy levels...  ones that are just the right complexity and
>toughness that you can beat them barely on the first time.  I hate
>having to do things over.
>

So you'd prefer disposable games with little or no replay value?


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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] Konami ships Castlevania in 3D
Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:49:42 -0600

FEAR HAS A NEW ADDRESS…THE CLASSIC LEGACY
OF CASTLEVANIA RETURNS IN 3D FOR N64 GAMERS
Konami’s Popular Dracula Hunting Adventure
Reappears in Daylight

(REDWOOD CITY, CA)Konami of America, Inc., leading developer of electronic
entertainment for the home video game and PC game markets, announces the
first-ever appearance of its legacy hit, Castlevania, on the Nintendo 64
console.
Castlevania features all the action expected from this classic Konami
franchise,
but with an all-new cast of characters, a new storyline and an innovative 3D
environment.  Each character has unique abilities and will each yield two
completely different story endings.  Gamers can choose between Reinhardt
Schneider, part of the famous Belmont vampire hunting family, and Carrie
Eastfield, a 12-year-old girl with magical fireballs and bracelets.
“Fans of Castlevania have been crying out for both an N64 and a 3D version
for a
while, and Konami is proud to announce that both are now available in one
supreme title,” said Jon Sloan, Konami Director of Marketing.  “With a
CD-quality musical score that sets the tone while playing and some of the
most
beautiful art ever seen, this newest version of Castlevania is the most
expressive and impressive Castlevania game ever.”
Each character has separate storylines allowing the gamer to explore the
vault-like castle and surrounding grounds.  Players are encouraged to play
through all stories to discover the true ending of the game, offering
excellent
replay value.  There are extra secrets and additional items and areas to
find.
For example, time of day affects an enemy’s powersduring the day, vampires
are
weaker and must hide in deeply shadowed areas.  Players may also turn into
vampires if bitten too often, which limits the type of weapons used and
could
end the game if a cure is not found in time.
“Last year was the 10th anniversary of the original Castlevania,” continues
Sloan.  “This new version is the 12th Castlevania product for consoles and
truly
takes the series over the edge.  The 3D graphics, the story and the
tried-and-true gameplay make this the best game in the series.”
Konami of America, Inc. is a leading developer, publisher and manufacturer
of
electronic entertainment properties, specializing in the home video game
and PC
game markets.  In addition to the Konami Sports Series, which includes
International Superstar Soccer ‘98, NBA In The Zone, Nagano Winter Olympics
‘98,
Bottom Of The 9TH and International Track & Field, Konami’s consumer titles
include Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill and Castlevania, among other top
sellers.
The latest information about Konami can be found on the Web at
www.konami.com.
Konami of America, Inc. is a subsidiary of Konami Co., Ltd., a publicly
traded
company based in Tokyo, Japan.

-30-





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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] zelda
Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:11:58 GMT-4

	spoiler tip...











































Lady in kakariko wants fish...

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda
Date: 26 Jan 1999 14:21:48 EST

In a message dated 1/26/99 9:13:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA
writes:

<< Lady in kakariko wants fish.. >>

	She will buy not only fish, but bugs and blue fire as well.

--David

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From: Matt Ma <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject:  Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 26 Jan 1999 14:26:48 -0700 (MST)

Here's an interesting tidbit... If we look at IGN.PSX and IGN64 to compare the upcoming
releases for 1999, N64 has 125 upcoming games, while PSX has only 82. Could it just be
inaccurate web reporting from the IGN staff? Or is 1999 the year that the N64 actually has more
games released for it than PSX? Either way it looks like lots of games this year for N64
owners! Forget the quality over quantity business, hopefully we'll have both now!

Looking over these 2 lists, I count 18 N64 games that I think I might consider buying, based
just on preview information. I only count 8 on the PSX list. This is going to be a good year
for N64!

matt ma

>>> "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com> 01/22 2:42 PM >>>
Seeing how little I've played my N64 (except for Zelda) this year, as 
compared to the my psx, I decided to do some reasearch to see what I was 
interested in for the N64 this year.  This is what I've come up with (at 
least thru 1999):

<snip>

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From: Matt Ma <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject:  Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 26 Jan 1999 14:27:21 -0700 (MST)

Here's an interesting tidbit... If we look at IGN.PSX and IGN64 to compare the upcoming
releases for 1999, N64 has 125 upcoming games, while PSX has only 82. Could it just be
inaccurate web reporting from the IGN staff? Or is 1999 the year that the N64 actually has more
games released for it than PSX? Either way it looks like lots of games this year for N64
owners! Forget the quality over quantity business, hopefully we'll have both now!

Looking over these 2 lists, I count 18 N64 games that I think I might consider buying, based
just on preview information. I only count 8 on the PSX list. This is going to be a good year
for N64!

matt ma

>>> "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com> 01/22 2:42 PM >>>
Seeing how little I've played my N64 (except for Zelda) this year, as 
compared to the my psx, I decided to do some reasearch to see what I was 
interested in for the N64 this year.  This is what I've come up with (at 
least thru 1999):

<snip>

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From: "TreyTable@aol.com" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject:  Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 14:28:29 -0700 (MST)

In a message dated 1/25/99 10:44:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au writes:

>   I hate
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>  

I think what 'D' means is he doesn't like games like Oddworld : Abe's Odessy
or Flashback : The Search for Identity. Make one boo boo and you have to do
things over & over & over.

I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64 list. It's
been fun.

Trey

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:49:42 EST

Yes, but as we all know, many of those titles (or at least some) will be
delayed. But I agree, there a lot of games for the N64 I want, yet for the
PSX, I see virtually none.

~Matt

<<Here's an interesting tidbit... If we look at IGN.PSX and IGN64 to compare
the upcoming
releases for 1999, N64 has 125 upcoming games, while PSX has only 82. Could it
just be
inaccurate web reporting from the IGN staff? Or is 1999 the year that the N64
actually has more
games released for it than PSX? Either way it looks like lots of games this
year for N64
owners! Forget the quality over quantity business, hopefully we'll have both
now!

Looking over these 2 lists, I count 18 N64 games that I think I might consider
buying, based
just on preview information. I only count 8 on the PSX list. This is going to
be a good year
for N64!

matt ma>>

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 18:51:38 -0600

Let me give you a little senario as to what games I like:  you are
playing a game, there are two paths to take, left and right.  You chose
right which circles and turns and eventually comes to another path where
you can chose left and right again.  BZZZ  I hate that type of game, now
I have to remember to go left and right not only at this junction but at
the one previous to that.  I get angry and frusturated because it feels
like I'm at school remembering what I already went through how I did it,
what I got etc.  I don't like that feeling.  To me games have to be fun
not really complex but just plain fun.

Alex wrote:
> 
> At 21:04 25-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
> >I like short easy levels...  ones that are just the right complexity and
> >toughness that you can beat them barely on the first time.  I hate
> >having to do things over.
> >
> 
> So you'd prefer disposable games with little or no replay value?
> 
> alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au
> 
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Question for everyone
Date: 26 Jan 1999 19:08:24 -0600 (CST)

On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Matt Ma wrote:

> Here's an interesting tidbit... If we look at IGN.PSX and IGN64 to compare the upcoming
> releases for 1999, N64 has 125 upcoming games, while PSX has only 82. Could it just be
> inaccurate web reporting from the IGN staff? Or is 1999 the year that the N64 actually has more
> games released for it than PSX? Either way it looks like lots of games this year for N64
> owners! Forget the quality over quantity business, hopefully we'll have both now!

Probably just an incomplete list.  I looked at the latest EGM and their
release list (which only goes through April) and they have 42 games for
the N64 listed and 84 PSX games. Though it does look good for the N64 in
that I see about the same amount of N64 games I am interested in as PSX
games.  But there are always a couple of games I will want for the PSX
that I did not know were supposed to be any good...it gets hard to keep
track when that many games keep coming out.

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From: Vi <vi@cgl.bu.edu>
Subject: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 26 Jan 1999 20:12:10 +30000


Smash bros seems to be a good 4 player game.  I don't know why nintendo
hasn't announce a U.S. release yet.  There is no japanese to translate.
I think people should just go buy the Japanese version.
The menu's and options are in english.

> I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64 list. It's
> been fun.
> Trey

good bye trey.  


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 26 Jan 1999 19:20:28 -0600 (CST)

On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Vi wrote:

> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64 list. It's
> > been fun.
> > Trey
> 
> good bye trey.  

Wait, Trey is leaving?  I missed it because I was not really reading the
Smash Bros. thread.  I guess we will need to find another Vidgame
historian :)

Bye Trey!

Stryder


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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:33:52 -0500



>On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Vi wrote:
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>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64
list. It's
>> > been fun.
>> > Trey
>>
>> good bye trey.
>
>Wait, Trey is leaving?  I missed it because I was not really reading the
>Smash Bros. thread.  I guess we will need to find another Vidgame
>historian :)
>
>Bye Trey!
>
>Stryder


You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of this,
right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with the
N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)



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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:32:47 +1100

At 13:11 26-01-99 GMT-4, you wrote:
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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:42:50 +1100

At 18:51 26-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>Let me give you a little senario as to what games I like:  you are
>playing a game, there are two paths to take, left and right.  You chose
>right which circles and turns and eventually comes to another path where
>you can chose left and right again.  BZZZ  I hate that type of game, now
>I have to remember to go left and right not only at this junction but at
>the one previous to that.  I get angry and frusturated because it feels
>like I'm at school remembering what I already went through how I did it,
>what I got etc.  I don't like that feeling.  To me games have to be fun
>not really complex but just plain fun.
>

Ah I see what you mean. I agree that trail-and-error gameplay is just plain
terrible game design. I still prefer short/hard over short/easy. If the
levels are short ( a la Goldeneye, Blast Corps) it is not frustrating to
have to replay the level. It's still possible to have a long and challenging
level, using things like midway-restart points, but designers have to stay
away from one-hit-deaths and the like in long levels.

alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question
Date: 27 Jan 1999 00:54:56 -0500

Also, I think it's kind of weird that I don't hold two games to the same
standard. For instance, in Turok II I didn't really have a problem with
dying, because I was playing on Easy. the thing that took the longest was
how to find the damn save points and warps for each level. When I played
Turok II, I got extremely frustrated, and I consider the game a prime
example of graphics over gameplay.
On the other hand, there was another game in which I didn't die very much,
but I never felt frustrated. That game is called Zelda 64 =). I died only
about 5 times through the entire game, and it took me about 40-50 hours to
complete the first time. I never once while playing felt any sense of
annoyance, except maybe at having to stop =). Some of the puzzles stumped me
at first, but not to a degree that caused frustration. I could play that
game for up to 6 hours at a time. In contrast, I can barely stand playing
single-player Turok II for more than an hour.
Fine, so maybe it is unfair to compare Turok to the greatest game of all
time. I still had the same feeling in games like, say, Banjo-Kazooie. The
first time I beat the game, it took almost 40 hours. But I very seldom was
wandering around not knowing what to do or searching for the exit.

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>At 18:51 26-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>>Let me give you a little senario as to what games I like:  you are
>>playing a game, there are two paths to take, left and right.  You chose
>>right which circles and turns and eventually comes to another path where
>>you can chose left and right again.  BZZZ  I hate that type of game, now
>>I have to remember to go left and right not only at this junction but at
>>the one previous to that.  I get angry and frusturated because it feels
>>like I'm at school remembering what I already went through how I did it,
>>what I got etc.  I don't like that feeling.  To me games have to be fun
>>not really complex but just plain fun.
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>Ah I see what you mean. I agree that trail-and-error gameplay is just plain
>terrible game design. I still prefer short/hard over short/easy. If the
>levels are short ( a la Goldeneye, Blast Corps) it is not frustrating to
>have to replay the level. It's still possible to have a long and
challenging
>level, using things like midway-restart points, but designers have to stay
>away from one-hit-deaths and the like in long levels.
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>alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au
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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 07:06:00 -0500


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alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You mean that is a woman, the one who says sell me something with C. 
I thought it was some wierd little boy.

Russ

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From: MARK <MARK@zippack.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:57:28 -0000

I concur, I too thought it was a boy

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lapenna, Russ [SMTP:Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA]
> Sent:	27 January 1999 12:06
> To:	"n64@lists.xmission.com" ; "Alex" 
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> I thought it was some wierd little boy.
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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 08:55:00 -0500

>I concur, I too thought it was a boy

Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is 
in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with 
the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is 
supposedly in Kakariko Village.

So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about??

Russ

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 11:44:16 -0500

At 08:55 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I concur, I too thought it was a boy
>
>Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is 
>in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with 
>the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is 
>supposedly in Kakariko Village.
>
>So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about??

It's the same boy that was in Hyrule Castle when you were a boy, he just
moves to Karariko Village along with everyone else when Link is an adult.


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 12:43:20 -0600

Which person that moved, lots of them moved.  Is it the one on his knees
patting his legs with his hands and he says "sell me something with C"

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> At 08:55 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >>I concur, I too thought it was a boy
> >
> >Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is
> >in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with
> >the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is
> >supposedly in Kakariko Village.
> >
> >So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about??
> 
> It's the same boy that was in Hyrule Castle when you were a boy, he just
> moves to Karariko Village along with everyone else when Link is an adult.
> 
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From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" <ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA>
Subject: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:44:13 GMT-4

Question:
how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.

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From: *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
Subject: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:05:03 -0200

PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR  [ReadERROR@warzo=
ne.com]

     As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today =
have been, one might begin to wonder if pc online gaming will continue to =
flourish as it has in the past several years. Let's see; what do we have s=
aturating the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repeti=
tive commercials?? Well, you have Sony's Playstation [which has been enorm=
ously successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into=
 light], and in September of '99 we will see the new Sega Dreamcast; toppi=
ng Nintendo and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. But ar=
e these systems really a threat to the stability of pc online gaming as we=
 know it?! The answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat ro=
om junkies, and internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady in=
flux of pc gaming addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my pc, y=
et I still cannot match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't ge=
t me wrong, its nice to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your=
 playstation and play, but theres nothing quite like knowing you took some=
 guy from the U.K.'s head off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that=
 you just ended the virtual life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't =
even know] with a missle blast. I know it can be a drag [especially if you=
 have a slow connection like me] to engage in some online games and keep u=
p, but it can equally be as thrilling when things come together. Your not =
going to be playing anyone in any other country on your Playstation or N64=
 [anytime soon anyways]. That is why for the time being PC online gamers w=
ill have an edge over the plug 'n play crowd. Besides theres more to the l=
eisure of simpling pluging in your system and hitting start. Why who can d=
o without the problems of full servers, or server incompatibilities, or id=
iots that just like to chat in the playing area, or ping times that border=
 on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off in time?? Thats all =
part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunatley those are some reasons peopl=
e choose stand-alone systems over pc gaming. But when it all comes down to=
 it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is choices. You can inves=
t in a Playstation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the arrival of the n=
ew Dreamcast or you can build a pc. All are good options if you are a true=
 gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some might say tha=
ts a matter of opinion...


Let us know what you think.=20

"You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the shelves=
. Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With the prolifer=
ation of video games for stand alone systems [N64, Playstation, Dreamcast]=
 on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming is threatened or affected =
at all by this?"

*ReadERROR
ICQ #112822 EGN #154
http://games.hactivist.net
http://welcome.to/piracy101world

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From: *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
Subject: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:05:27 -0200

PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR  [ReadERROR@warzo=
ne.com]

     As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today =
have been, one might begin to wonder if pc online gaming will continue to =
flourish as it has in the past several years. Let's see; what do we have s=
aturating the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repeti=
tive commercials?? Well, you have Sony's Playstation [which has been enorm=
ously successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into=
 light], and in September of '99 we will see the new Sega Dreamcast; toppi=
ng Nintendo and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. But ar=
e these systems really a threat to the stability of pc online gaming as we=
 know it?! The answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat ro=
om junkies, and internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady in=
flux of pc gaming addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my pc, y=
et I still cannot match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't ge=
t me wrong, its nice to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your=
 playstation and play, but theres nothing quite like knowing you took some=
 guy from the U.K.'s head off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that=
 you just ended the virtual life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't =
even know] with a missle blast. I know it can be a drag [especially if you=
 have a slow connection like me] to engage in some online games and keep u=
p, but it can equally be as thrilling when things come together. Your not =
going to be playing anyone in any other country on your Playstation or N64=
 [anytime soon anyways]. That is why for the time being PC online gamers w=
ill have an edge over the plug 'n play crowd. Besides theres more to the l=
eisure of simpling pluging in your system and hitting start. Why who can d=
o without the problems of full servers, or server incompatibilities, or id=
iots that just like to chat in the playing area, or ping times that border=
 on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off in time?? Thats all =
part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunatley those are some reasons peopl=
e choose stand-alone systems over pc gaming. But when it all comes down to=
 it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is choices. You can inves=
t in a Playstation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the arrival of the n=
ew Dreamcast or you can build a pc. All are good options if you are a true=
 gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some might say tha=
ts a matter of opinion...


Let us know what you think.=20

"You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the shelves=
. Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With the prolifer=
ation of video games for stand alone systems [N64, Playstation, Dreamcast]=
 on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming is threatened or affected =
at all by this?"

*ReadERROR
ICQ #112822 EGN #154
http://games.hactivist.net
http://welcome.to/piracy101world

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From: "Lapenna, Russ" <Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 13:49:00 -0500

>Which person that moved, lots of them moved.  Is it the one on his knees 
>patting his legs with his hands and he says "sell me something with C"

>tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

     Yeah that's the one. Someone started this thread saying it was 
a woman, and assuming we're talking about the same one, it seems we 
agree it's a boy.

Russ

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:26:35 -0500

I've beat Zelda 3 times now.

-----Original Message-----


Question:
how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda sell me something with C
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:32:39 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes:

> Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is 
>  in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with 
>  the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is 
>  supposedly in Kakariko Village.
>  
>  So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about??
>  
>  Russ
>  

It is the same person, be it a young boy or young lady. Remember, just about
all of the people from Hyrule Castle Town escaped to Kakariko Village after
Ganondorf took over as King of Hyrule.

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:37:32 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 1:45:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA
writes:

> Question:
>  how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.

I did. I'm on my third run throgh the game. First with the name "Link", which
took me about 60 hours to get to Ganon, second with the name "Dave", which
took me about 20 hours to get to Ganon, and now on my third run through
calling myself "Zelda". This time around I decided not to time myself. To make
the game a lot easier the second & tird time around I got Epona, the 4
bottles, and the Biggoron's sword before I beat the Forest Temple.

Dave

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From: catons@juno.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:00:10 -0500



>how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.
>
>        Yeah, after I beat  the game, I let my friend(who had been
bugging the heck out of me for it) borrow Zelda, then I sat at home,
lonely with nothing to do... After crying about it for awhile,  I wiped
my tear stained face and called up a different friend, who lives just
down the road, and borrowed his game, and beat it in a short time. IMO,
it's just as much fun the second time, if not better!!  Fantastic
addition to the video game industry, my fellow gamers!!! :-)
>

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:05:43 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 1:47:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ReadERROR@warzone.com writes:

>   As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today have 
> been, one might begin to wonder if PC online gaming will continue to
flourish 
> as it has in the past several years. 

PC gaming is a niche group. Internet gaming is an even smaller group. If
anything will kill Internet gaming it won't be console systems, it will be (in
my humble opinion) the lack of variety found in the PC gaming market today. I
have nothing against the PC gamer, but I'd be bored in a week if the system I
chose as my primary game unit had nothing more than 1st person shooters & real
time strategy games. 




> Let's see; what do we have saturating 
> the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repetitive 
> commercials?? Well, you have Sony's PlayStation [which has been enormously 
> successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into light],
> and in September of '99 we will see the new SEGA Dreamcast; topping Nintendo
> and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. 
 
Hmm. I thought that 128 Bits is actually 4 times as much as 64 Bits, but then
again, I could be wrong. And the N64 wasn't the first system with 64 Bit
graphics. That goes to the Atari Jaguar. Sure it didn't have a 64-Bit CPU, but
two 32-Bit processors running in parallel does make it a 64-Bit system,
although some may argue this with me until the end of time I stand by my
conviction. Furthermore, calling the Dreamcast a 128 Bit system is about as
smart as calling the PC Engine a 16-Bit system. The measure of consoles is
based on their CPU's. That's how it's been for as long as I can remember. So
the Dreamcast is in all reality a 64-Bit system, and the PC Engine (and all of
its offspring including the Super Grafx) are 8-Bit systems.


> But are these systems 
> really a threat to the stability of PC online gaming as we know it?! 

No. That would be like saying motorcycles are a threat to the automobile
industry. A different userbase for the most part.

>The 
> answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat room junkies, and 
> Internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady influx of PC gaming 
> addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my PC, yet I still cannot 
> match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't get me wrong, its nice
> to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your PlayStation and play, 
> but there's nothing quite like knowing you took some guy from the UK's head 
> off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that you just ended the virtual 
> life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't even know] with a missile
blast. 
> I know it can be a drag [especially if you have a slow connection like me]
to 
> engage in some online games and keep up, but it can equally be as thrilling 
> when things come together.

No comment.


> Your not going to be playing anyone in any other 
> country on your PlayStation or N64 [anytime soon anyway]. 

Unless you take your system on vacation ;)


> That is why for 
> the time being PC online gamers will have an edge over the plug 'n play
crowd.

Yeah, don't have to worry about a social life. I'd rather play multiplayer
(like Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Turok 2, Saturn Bomberman, Mario
Party, or Soul Blade) with people I know then isolate myself at a terminal and
blow up people from Germany or elsewhere who could turn out to be something
else than I think they are, or aren't.

>  Besides there's more to the leisure of simpering plugging in your system
and 
> hitting start. Why who can do without the problems of full servers, or
server 
> incompatibilities, or idiots that just like to chat in the playing area, or 
> ping times that border on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off 
> in time?? That's all part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunately those are
> some reasons people choose stand-alone systems over PC gaming. But when it 
> all comes down to it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is
choices. 
> You can invest in a PlayStation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the 
> arrival of the new Dreamcast or you can build a PC. All are good options if 
> you are a true gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some 
> might say that's a matter of opinion...
>  

As for online gaming I'll wait for the Dreamcast. I'm having too much fun with
console multiplayer.

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:06:41 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 1:54:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes:

>   Yeah that's the one. Someone started this thread saying it was 
>  a woman, and assuming we're talking about the same one, it seems we 
>  agree it's a boy.
>  
>  Russ

A boy with implants? ;)

Dave

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Metroid 64
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:32:56 EST

To those of you itching for an N64 incarnation of Metroid 64:

In the latest Nintendo Power, there was a Counselors' corner with tips of
Super Metroid. This, I'm sure means very little, but at least Nintendo is
keeping Samus alive.

~Matt


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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:43:04 -0500



>>   As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today
have
>> been, one might begin to wonder if PC online gaming will continue to
>flourish
>> as it has in the past several years.
>
>PC gaming is a niche group. Internet gaming is an even smaller group. If
>anything will kill Internet gaming it won't be console systems, it will be
(in
>my humble opinion) the lack of variety found in the PC gaming market today.
I
>have nothing against the PC gamer, but I'd be bored in a week if the system
I
>chose as my primary game unit had nothing more than 1st person shooters &
real
>time strategy games.


A "niche"? PC gaming is very popular, as I guess you are not aware. Plus,
virtually all PC games released today include some for of Internet support.
Maybe the fact that you don't enjoy online gaming is because you are on AOL,
the singular worst ISP existant for playing multiplayer games online.

>> Let's see; what do we have saturating
>> the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repetitive
>> commercials?? Well, you have Sony's PlayStation [which has been
enormously
>> successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into
light],
>> and in September of '99 we will see the new SEGA Dreamcast; topping
Nintendo
>> and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64].
>
>Hmm. I thought that 128 Bits is actually 4 times as much as 64 Bits, but
then
>again, I could be wrong. And the N64 wasn't the first system with 64 Bit
>graphics. BLAH BLAH BLAH, etc..


You mind explaining to me how 4 times 64 = 128?

>> But are these systems
>> really a threat to the stability of PC online gaming as we know it?!
>
>No. That would be like saying motorcycles are a threat to the automobile
>industry. A different userbase for the most part.


I would agree here, to a point. The userbase is not necessarily different (I
play online alot, and I like my N64), but that the two serve different
needs. I play Starcraft online when I'm looking for a good strategy
experience, while on the N64 it is practically impossible to have a RTS
game. On the other hand, when I have friends over, I would go for the N64
because it's not feasible to have a four-player in the same location game on
the computer, unless you guys all bought network cards and brought their
computers over (I know ppl who do this).

>> Your not going to be playing anyone in any other
>> country on your PlayStation or N64 [anytime soon anyway].
>
>Unless you take your system on vacation ;)


I assume you have heard of the Dreamcast, as you mention it below. That
would enable you to play ppl in other countries.

>> That is why for
>> the time being PC online gamers will have an edge over the plug 'n play
>crowd.
>
>Yeah, don't have to worry about a social life. I'd rather play multiplayer
>(like Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Turok 2, Saturn Bomberman,
Mario
>Party, or Soul Blade) with people I know then isolate myself at a terminal
and
>blow up people from Germany or elsewhere who could turn out to be something
>else than I think they are, or aren't.


Well, to each their own. You can't always have four people over at your
house to play games with, while online there are always ppl to play. Also,
the N64 is limited to 4 players, as is the Dreamcast, while the PC,
depending on what game you play, can support anywhere from 4 to several
hundred as in Ultima Online.

>As for online gaming I'll wait for the Dreamcast. I'm having too much fun
with
>console multiplayer.


I love online gaming, and I've been playing Starcraft online since it came
out last year. That's more than I can say for any N64 game I've played,
except maybe Goldeneye. As for the Dreamcast, I would avoid it, because Sega
is probably going to charge a monthly rate for the online service, in
addition to the cost of the system and the game.

>Dave



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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Trey = VG history.
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:39:06 EST

Look, if you guys want to know about the history of video games, it's easy. Go
read, "Joystick Nation," by J. C.  Herz, and, "Game Over," by David Sheff.
Also, there are tons of sites out there that any decent search engine can list
that deal with old systems. It's not that hard.

~Matt

PS: I'll talk to Trey and see why he left.

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] Check out the competition
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:34:59 -0700


http://graphics.theonion.com/pics3503/infograph3503.gif

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Check out the competition
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:47:36 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 2:37:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gregorys@xmission.com writes:

<< http://graphics.theonion.com/pics3503/infograph3503.gif >>


	LOL.  I love that.  How'd you find that site?

--David

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Check out the competition
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:54:37 -0500



Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/27/99 2:37:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> gregorys@xmission.com writes:
>
> << http://graphics.theonion.com/pics3503/infograph3503.gif >>
>
>         LOL.  I love that.  How'd you find that site?
>
> --David

How'd you find that site??  I thought everyone knew about The
Onion....it is like really well known....

>
>
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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Check out the competition
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:05:09 -0700

It's a weekly stop of mine (updated on Wednesdays).

Greg

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/27/99 2:37:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> gregorys@xmission.com writes:
> 
> << http://graphics.theonion.com/pics3503/infograph3503.gif >>
> 
>         LOL.  I love that.  How'd you find that site?
> 
> --David
> 
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 18:16:00 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 4:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> Maybe the fact that you don't enjoy online gaming is because you are on AOL,
>  the singular worst ISP existent for playing multiplayer games online.

No, it's the fact that my computer is an 80486 DX2-66. ;)

Dave 

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:41:04 -0800

I don't like online gaming much but its mostly because
I don't enjoy the type of games that are best
for it, ie RTS and 1st person shooters.  My
favorite PC games are turn based strategy
games like the Warlords and Heroes of Might
and Magic series and RPGs.
-----Original Message-----
Playstation, etc]


>In a message dated 1/27/99 4:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
>> Maybe the fact that you don't enjoy online gaming is because you are on
AOL,
>>  the singular worst ISP existent for playing multiplayer games online.
>
>No, it's the fact that my computer is an 80486 DX2-66. ;)
>
>Dave
>
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 18:02:39 -0600

I have beat it 2 times so far... going on three.  The only game I passed
lots of times was Earthbound for the snes (I think I passed it like 7
times)

STEPHANE QUIMPERE wrote:
> 
> Question:
> how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Trey = VG history.
Date: 27 Jan 1999 18:05:05 -0600

And if I want to be a rocket scientist I can just take a 12 year
course..... its not that hard.  The fact is that americans are lazy and
we all know it.  If they can get things handed to them they prefer it to
looking for it.

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Look, if you guys want to know about the history of video games, it's easy. Go
> read, "Joystick Nation," by J. C.  Herz, and, "Game Over," by David Sheff.
> Also, there are tons of sites out there that any decent search engine can list
> that deal with old systems. It's not that hard.
> 
> ~Matt
> 
> PS: I'll talk to Trey and see why he left.
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Trey = VG history.
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:03:11 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 4:03:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< And if I want to be a rocket scientist I can just take a 12 year
 course..... its not that hard.  The fact is that americans are lazy and
 we all know it.  If they can get things handed to them they prefer it to
 looking for it. >>

	Where did that come from???

--David

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:43:18 -0500

Ah, I see.. I'm a big RTS fan, so I'm big on online stuff. But, there are a
lot of great RPG's that can be played online.. Diablo2 is coming this year,
and Baldur's Gate is out already.

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Playstation, etc]


>I don't like online gaming much but its mostly because
>I don't enjoy the type of games that are best
>for it, ie RTS and 1st person shooters.  My
>favorite PC games are turn based strategy
>games like the Warlords and Heroes of Might
>and Magic series and RPGs.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SF2Dave@aol.com <SF2Dave@aol.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 2:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64,
>Playstation, etc]
>
>
>>In a message dated 1/27/99 4:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>> Maybe the fact that you don't enjoy online gaming is because you are on
>AOL,
>>>  the singular worst ISP existent for playing multiplayer games online.
>>
>>No, it's the fact that my computer is an 80486 DX2-66. ;)
>>
>>Dave
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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 19:44:17 -0600 (CST)


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I beat Zelda once then sold it on ebay for 51 dollars. (plus shipping).


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Question:
how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest.

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:47:58 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 5:47:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
LittleKathy@webtv.net writes:

<< I beat Zelda once then sold it on ebay for 51 dollars. (plus shipping).
 
  >>

	Why???

--David

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: [N64] Castlevania 64
Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:22:58 -0500

So what is everyones first impressions of Castlevania?  I am pleasantly
surprised... better than I had expected it to be.  Not very far though,
yet.  What does everyone else think?


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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:05:32 -0600 (CST)


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Once was enough for me.I loved the game but now I have the money to buy
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In a message dated 1/27/99 5:47:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
LittleKathy@webtv.net writes:

<< I beat Zelda once then sold it on ebay for 51 dollars. (plus shipping).
 
  >>

	Why???

--David

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Trey = VG history.
Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:14:42 -0600

He said that if you want to learn about videogame history all you have
to do is go here:... and look it up instead of asking someone.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/27/99 4:03:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
> writes:
> 
> << And if I want to be a rocket scientist I can just take a 12 year
>  course..... its not that hard.  The fact is that americans are lazy and
>  we all know it.  If they can get things handed to them they prefer it to
>  looking for it. >>
> 
>         Where did that come from???
> 
> --David
> 
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda question
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:18:58 EST

Does anybody know of an accurate list of all the Gold Skullutulas in Zelda 64?
I have 70 and am having trouble finding any more. Like I found 1 at the Lon
Lon Ranch and can't find any more. And I have found none at the Guerdo
Fortress. Any help would be appreciated.

Dave

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From: "Elliot Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda question
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:16:50 PST

The latest issue of Next Generation does a kind-of expose of where to 
find some of the special items.  I'm kind of surprised seeing how they 
looked down on putting codes in magazines.

elliot


>From: SF2Dave@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:18:58 EST
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com
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>Does anybody know of an accurate list of all the Gold Skullutulas in 
Zelda 64?
>I have 70 and am having trouble finding any more. Like I found 1 at the 
Lon
>Lon Ranch and can't find any more. And I have found none at the Guerdo
>Fortress. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Dave
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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64,
Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:42:06 +1100

At 14:05 27-01-99 -0200, you wrote:
>PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR
[ReadERROR@warzone.com]
>

<snip>

>
>Let us know what you think. 
>
>"You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the shelves.
Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With the
proliferation of video games for stand alone systems [N64, Playstation,
Dreamcast] on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming is threatened or
affected at all by this?"
>

You made a few errors... the N64 doesn't have 64bit graphics... there is no
such thing as 64 bit graphics. It has 64bit chips, a CPU and co-processor. I
believe the most detailed graphics it can do is with 24bit colour depth. And
the dreamcast is not actually true 128bit, at least, the CPU is not 128bit.
And 128bit does not equal 2x better than 64 bit. Of course the DC will be
much more graphically impressive than the N64. 

As for PC gamming being challenged by consoles. PC gaming as been around as
long as consoles. PC gaming was has always been extremly pathetic compared
to consoles, and always will be. It is not as if consoles are now comming up
and challenging PCs.

The PC market is but a fraction of the console market. PCs are good because
they are versatile and can offer new sorts of gaming, ie first First Person
shooter, first 3d graphics, first hi-res, first modem play, first internet
play. Sooner or later consoles catch up on the technical side, and they have
always been and always will be much further ahead in the number and quality
of games.


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda question
Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:09:50 +1100

At 22:18 27-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>Does anybody know of an accurate list of all the Gold Skullutulas in Zelda 64?
>I have 70 and am having trouble finding any more. Like I found 1 at the Lon
>Lon Ranch and can't find any more. And I have found none at the Guerdo
>Fortress. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Dave
>

SPOILER:











Check out Lon Lon Ranch at night time as a child. Also, try rolling (attack)
into the tree. This also works for a couple of other trees in the game. Go
to http://www.gamefaqs.com if you want to find a list of skulltulas, but I
recommend trying to do it by yourself.




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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64,  Playstation, etc]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 23:25:36 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Alex wrote:

> As for PC gamming being challenged by consoles. PC gaming as been around as
> long as consoles. PC gaming was has always been extremly pathetic compared
> to consoles, and always will be. It is not as if consoles are now comming up
> and challenging PCs.

I disagree with this.  I personally do not care for most PC games...let's
face it, most of the 'big' PC games are FPS and RTS...I don't care for
either (although I do enjoy a little of either every now and then).  But
to say that PC gaming is and always will be pathetic compared to consoles
is absurd.  Sure, back in the Atari, NES, and SNES days PC gaming was
virtually non-existent...for the past 5 or so years, PC gaming has gone
through and incredible increase due to FPS, 3D cards, and online gaming.
For the past couple of years, most of the stats I have seen show PC
gaming as having closed the gap (marketshare wise) to console games. 

> The PC market is but a fraction of the console market. PCs are good because
> they are versatile and can offer new sorts of gaming, ie first First Person
> shooter, first 3d graphics, first hi-res, first modem play, first internet
> play. Sooner or later consoles catch up on the technical side, and they have
> always been and always will be much further ahead in the number and quality
> of games.

I do agree that PC games are fairly weak in their selection and quality,
but the vast popularity of online gaming alone should  be enough to keep
you from saying it is 'pathetic'.  IMO of course.


On another note, I have finished Turok 2 and if anyone is interested on
buying it from me...please e-mail me.

Stryder


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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, 
Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:36:32 +1100

At 23:25 27-01-99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Alex wrote:
>
>> As for PC gamming being challenged by consoles. PC gaming as been around as
>> long as consoles. PC gaming was has always been extremly pathetic compared
>> to consoles, and always will be. It is not as if consoles are now comming up
>> and challenging PCs.
>
>I disagree with this.  I personally do not care for most PC games...let's
>face it, most of the 'big' PC games are FPS and RTS...I don't care for
>either (although I do enjoy a little of either every now and then).  But
>to say that PC gaming is and always will be pathetic compared to consoles
>is absurd.  Sure, back in the Atari, NES, and SNES days PC gaming was
>virtually non-existent...for the past 5 or so years, PC gaming has gone
>through and incredible increase due to FPS, 3D cards, and online gaming.
>For the past couple of years, most of the stats I have seen show PC
>gaming as having closed the gap (marketshare wise) to console games. 
>

After wolfenstein everyone was basically rehashing the same idea, with minor
technical enhancements. After the N64 comes out - bang - we get Goldeneye,
possibly the most revolutionary FPS since wolfenstein. Yes PC gaming is
increasing, but so is console gaming. It's all comparitive. Before it was
SMB3 or Commander Keen. Now it's Perfect Dark or (insert PC FPS of the
week). I don't think they are closing the gap. Wake me when a PC game sells
more than one million. And don't say Myst. :)

>> The PC market is but a fraction of the console market. PCs are good because
>> they are versatile and can offer new sorts of gaming, ie first First Person
>> shooter, first 3d graphics, first hi-res, first modem play, first internet
>> play. Sooner or later consoles catch up on the technical side, and they have
>> always been and always will be much further ahead in the number and quality
>> of games.
>
>I do agree that PC games are fairly weak in their selection and quality,
>but the vast popularity of online gaming alone should  be enough to keep
>you from saying it is 'pathetic'.  IMO of course.
>

Sure, but it's only a matter of time before consoles are doing online
gaming, and doing it better. Imagine a world with no modem conflicts... ahh..


>Stryder
>


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From: MARK <MARK@zippack.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playst
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:50:42 -0000

On-line gaming in the Uk will never take off until the telephone
companies introduce free local calls.  At present, it is just too
expensive to have a marathon session in the U.K.

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> Playstation, etc]
> 
> PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR
> [ReadERROR@warzone.com]
> 
>      As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market
> today have been, one might begin to wonder if pc online gaming will
> continue to flourish as it has in the past several years. Let's see;
> what do we have saturating the game system market and flooding our
> t.v.'s with these repetitive commercials?? Well, you have Sony's
> Playstation [which has been enormously successful], Nintendo 64 [the
> 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into light], and in September of '99
> we will see the new Sega Dreamcast; topping Nintendo and Sony with 128
> bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. But are these systems really a
> threat to the stability of pc online gaming as we know it?! The answer
> in my book is no. As long as there are still chat room junkies, and
> internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady influx of pc
> gaming addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my pc, yet I
> still cannot match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't get
> me wrong, its nice to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in
> your playstation and play, but theres nothing quite like knowing you
> took some guy from the U.K.'s head off his shoulders with a rocket
> launcher or that you just ended the virtual life of some girl from
> Russia [whom you don't even know] with a missle blast. I know it can
> be a drag [especially if you have a slow connection like me] to engage
> in some online games and keep up, but it can equally be as thrilling
> when things come together. Your not going to be playing anyone in any
> other country on your Playstation or N64 [anytime soon anyways]. That
> is why for the time being PC online gamers will have an edge over the
> plug 'n play crowd. Besides theres more to the leisure of simpling
> pluging in your system and hitting start. Why who can do without the
> problems of full servers, or server incompatibilities, or idiots that
> just like to chat in the playing area, or ping times that border on
> mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off in time?? Thats all
> part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunatley those are some reasons
> people choose stand-alone systems over pc gaming. But when it all
> comes down to it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is
> choices. You can invest in a Playstation or Nintendo 64, or even wait
> until the arrival of the new Dreamcast or you can build a pc. All are
> good options if you are a true gamer, but can one really be better
> than another? Well some might say thats a matter of opinion...
> 
> 
> Let us know what you think. 
> 
> "You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the
> shelves. Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With
> the proliferation of video games for stand alone systems [N64,
> Playstation, Dreamcast] on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming
> is threatened or affected at all by this?"
> 
> *ReadERROR
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> http://welcome.to/piracy101world
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From: MARK <MARK@zippack.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [N64] zelda quest
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:17:17 -0000

I agree, life is too short to spend time playing the same game over and
over again.  Live a little

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	LittleKathy@webtv.net [SMTP:LittleKathy@webtv.net]
> Sent:	28 January 1999 03:06
> To:	n64@lists.xmission.com
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> Subject:	Re: [N64] zelda quest
> 
> Once was enough for me.I loved the game but now I have the money to
> buy
> another game.
>  << Message: Re: [N64] zelda quest >> 

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From: MARK <MARK@zippack.co.uk>
Subject: [N64] Castlevania 64
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:23:36 -0000

I'm from the U.K. and will probably have to wait forever for Castlevania
to be released over here.

However, I would be grateful if someon could put a "review" together for
me.  I must admit I am heartily interested in this game.


Mark

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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania 64 
Date: 28 Jan 1999 10:22:04 +0000

There is a review on ign64


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From: MARK <MARK@zippack.co.uk>
Subject: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:52:10 -0000

Again, another U.K. based question, does anyone know when/if Smash
Brothers will be released in the U.K.

MARK

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:53:45 +1100

At 22:52 27-01-99 -0000, you wrote:
>Again, another U.K. based question, does anyone know when/if Smash
>Brothers will be released in the U.K.
>
>MARK
>

Smash Brothers has yet to be announced for US release... so it'll be a while
till we hear anything about a PAL version. As for Castlevania, according to
GT Interactive it will be out in April, "just in time for Easter holidays".




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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda question
Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:38:07 EST

Well, I've found that using a combination of the NOA guide and the Prima guide
worked for me. None of the online walkthroughs have pictures, which I think is
a must when describing where they are. Well, come to think about it, the NOA
guide didn't have pics either ... 

~Matt

<<Does anybody know of an accurate list of all the Gold Skullutulas in Zelda
64?
I have 70 and am having trouble finding any more. Like I found 1 at the Lon
Lon Ranch and can't find any more. And I have found none at the Guerdo
Fortress. Any help would be appreciated.

Dave>>

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:46:13 EST

Not only that, but I do not find any joy in having to spend twice as much
money on hardware (i.e., the latest graphics card, video card, etc.) than on
software every damn time I buy a new game. PC gaming is cool, the modem play
is great, but the market is just too damn flooded. Everyone and their mother
is making a graphics card, every other game being compatible with only a few
of them, and every other week a higher system requirement needed to run the
games. Consoles: you buy it, you buys games, end of story. Simple like pie.

~Matt 

<<As for PC gamming being challenged by consoles. PC gaming as been around as
long as consoles. PC gaming was has always been extremely pathetic compared
to consoles, and always will be. It is not as if consoles are now comming up
and challenging PCs.

The PC market is but a fraction of the console market. PCs are good because
they are versatile and can offer new sorts of gaming, ie first First Person
shooter, first 3d graphics, first hi-res, first modem play, first internet
play. Sooner or later consoles catch up on the technical side, and they have
always been and always will be much further ahead in the number and quality
of games.


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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Turok 2: The Primagen
Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:49:16 EST

HELP! I'm finally at the Primagen on Turok 2 (no cheats!), and he kills me
every damn time! I never have enough ammo to hurt him! And he keep refilling
his damn life! AAAAHHHH! What weapon should I use? Please help.

~Matt

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:52:12 EST

Sorry, Mark, looks like we're all SOL. NOA is too stupid to release this game,
and if NOA doesn't, I doubt NOE will. Morons, if ya ask me.

~Matt

<<Again, another U.K. based question, does anyone know when/if Smash
Brothers will be released in the U.K.

MARK>>

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] zelda question
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:11:55 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 7:35:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, SF2Dave@aol.com
writes:

<< Does anybody know of an accurate list of all the Gold Skullutulas in Zelda
64?
 I have 70 and am having trouble finding any more. Like I found 1 at the Lon
 Lon Ranch and can't find any more. And I have found none at the Guerdo
 Fortress. Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Dave >>

	Yup.  The Zelda 64 Player's Guide put out by Nintendo.  It's got a lot of
great stuff in it.  Only $11 too, or free if with a subscription to Nintendo
Power.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Trey = VG history.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:10:41 EST

In a message dated 1/27/99 7:13:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

<< He said that if you want to learn about videogame history all you have
 to do is go here:... and look it up instead of asking someone.
  >>

	Well, you'll probably get a little more accurate information by looking it up
instead of asking someone.

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania 64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:17:38 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 2:23:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk writes:

<< There is a review on ign64 >>

	And some great screen shots and movies to boot. =)

--David

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:15:59 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 12:49:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
MARK@zippack.co.uk writes:

<< On-line gaming in the Uk will never take off until the telephone
 companies introduce free local calls.  At present, it is just too
 expensive to have a marathon session in the U.K.
  >>

	You don't get free local calling?

--David

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc]
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:34:35 -0500

I don't get free local calling either, in NY, USA. It's 11.7 cents per call,
but that's a flat rate. I think that in Europe they charge by the minute.

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>In a message dated 1/28/99 12:49:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>MARK@zippack.co.uk writes:
>
><< On-line gaming in the Uk will never take off until the telephone
> companies introduce free local calls.  At present, it is just too
> expensive to have a marathon session in the U.K.
>  >>
>
> You don't get free local calling?
>
>--David
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:51:57 -0500

PC gaming is not as complicated as you might think. Certainly it's more
complicated than consoles, but it's not like you need a college degree to
figure it out. Get a fast processor, a Riva TNT video card (or a Millenium
g200/Voodoo 2 combo), sound card from Creative or Turtle Beach, speakers
from Altec-Lansing or Cambridge (or hook it up to your stereo, but you can
do that with your console too), and you're set. Granted, a system that can
run the latest 3D enhanced games is gonna run you about $2500, but you can
use it for other things.

I'm not really going to make a judgement on the quality of games on the PC
vs console. On both platforms there are great games, and there are crap. The
proportion of crap to good games is about the same as the PSX as the PC. I
can't really compare Nintendo, because the cart format discourages companies
from making bad games since the carts cost so much. I heard from someone
that I couldn't name a million-selling PC title. I can name several.
Starcraft, Diablo, and there are lots more, but I don't know them off the
top of my head. I would guess that there were over a million copies of Doom
out there. I won't talk about all those hunting games, because I really do
not want to think about what kind of society we live in where games with no
gameplay and incredibly crappy graphics like Big Game Hunter can possible
sell consistantly in the top ten software.

Also, some games are done really well on the PC, some are better on console.
I remember PC Gamer or EGM or one of those mags did a comparison of console
and PC gaming a while back, and they reached the same conclusion. For
example, cite Goldeneye all you want, but online Quake II or Unreal or
Half-life can have the same or more multiplayer intensity. I'm not a big FPS
fan, and I am in no way denigrating Goldeneye since it is one of the only
FPS that I like, but the general quality of PC FPS is a lot better than
consoles. Another category that is done better on PC is the RTS, mainly
because those types of games basically require a mouse, and becuase of the
online element.  For some of the same reasons, RPG's are usually better on
the computer, becuase you can save anywhere, and you can have multiplayer
quests online. Also, many companies continue to support their PC games after
they have come out via the Internet, releasing new maps, patches, etc.

Consoles, on the other hand, excel at platformers, some sports games, and
most action games. Sports that require more control and sim-like qualities
are easier to do well on the PC (golf, especially), while action based
sports titles are usually equally good on the PC and the consoles, except
the PC version have much better graphics. I have yet to see a great PC
platformer, (Rayman was ok),  and I doubt that I ever will. The keyboard is
just not a good control mechanism for those types of games.

Anyway, in conclusion, you can make arguments that either is better, but it
really depends on what you like. My PC is pretty old (P166), and I don't
like FPS, so I use the PC for actual work and RTS and RPG gaming online. I
can't run many of the sports titles for the PC, so when I want to play
something that is more action-based, I go to my N64. It works for me =)

>Not only that, but I do not find any joy in having to spend twice as much
>money on hardware (i.e., the latest graphics card, video card, etc.) than
on
>software every damn time I buy a new game. PC gaming is cool, the modem
play
>is great, but the market is just too damn flooded. Everyone and their
mother
>is making a graphics card, every other game being compatible with only a
few
>of them, and every other week a higher system requirement needed to run the
>games. Consoles: you buy it, you buys games, end of story. Simple like pie.
>
>~Matt
>
><<As for PC gamming being challenged by consoles. PC gaming as been around
as
>long as consoles. PC gaming was has always been extremely pathetic compared
>to consoles, and always will be. It is not as if consoles are now comming
up
>and challenging PCs.
>
>The PC market is but a fraction of the console market. PCs are good because
>they are versatile and can offer new sorts of gaming, ie first First Person
>shooter, first 3d graphics, first hi-res, first modem play, first internet
>play. Sooner or later consoles catch up on the technical side, and they
have
>always been and always will be much further ahead in the number and quality
>of games.
>
>
>alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:17:45 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 12:00:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< PC gaming is not as complicated as you might think. Certainly it's more
 complicated than consoles, but it's not like you need a college degree to
 figure it out. Get a fast processor, a Riva TNT video card (or a Millenium
 g200/Voodoo 2 combo), sound card from Creative or Turtle Beach, speakers
 from Altec-Lansing or Cambridge (or hook it up to your stereo, but you can
 do that with your console too), and you're set. Granted, a system that can
 run the latest 3D enhanced games is gonna run you about $2500, but you can
 use it for other things. >>

	Well, let's see.  I paid $800 for my HP Pavilion 6300 w/ AMD-k62 300MHz
processor (which is built specifically FOR graphics).  I don't need anything
else but that to run the newest software.  

--David

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Smash Brothers
Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:54:39 -0500

That's why everyone should import it.  Worth it man, believe me.

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:

> Sorry, Mark, looks like we're all SOL. NOA is too stupid to release this game,
> and if NOA doesn't, I doubt NOE will. Morons, if ya ask me.
>
> ~Matt
>
> <<Again, another U.K. based question, does anyone know when/if Smash
> Brothers will be released in the U.K.
>
> MARK>>
>
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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2: The Primagen
Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:06:13 EST

You can't go wrong with the Shredder, especially explosive shells. Also, the
Scorpion Launcher, Flamethrower [when closer up], and the MAG60, all do
wonders. Just be sure you restock constantly. You'll die undoubtedly, as I
died 4x the first go around, but you should have plenty of lives in any case.
Also just avoid the things that drop from the celing and explode, and take out
those flying buggers with the Shredder to get him to come out and play. Once
Primagen himself comes out, keep your distance, and KEEP MOVING. Aim for the
head more or less, and you should be alright. It'll take some practice,
g'luck!

!!

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From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
Subject: [N64] Re: Castlevania 64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:18:23 +0000

>I'm from the U.K. and will probably have to wait forever for >Castlevania to be released over here.

I got myself and 'evaluation' copy in the UK two days ago! And
I've got a UK model 64. Fucking top game, just wish I had a bit
more time to play it.

peace,
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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: Castlevania 64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:46:02 -0700

tWiSt wrote:
> 
> >I'm from the U.K. and will probably have to wait forever for >Castlevania to be released over here.
> 
> I got myself and 'evaluation' copy in the UK two days ago! And
> I've got a UK model 64. F***ing top game, just wish I had a bit
> more time to play it.

The above, censored profanity earned this gentleman a week's vacation.

Greg

> 
> peace,
> tWiSt
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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:53:15 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Eddy Wu wrote:

> I'm not really going to make a judgement on the quality of games on the PC
> vs console. On both platforms there are great games, and there are crap. The
> proportion of crap to good games is about the same as the PSX as the PC. I

My gripe is that all the good PC games are usually stacked into one or 2
genres.



> and PC gaming a while back, and they reached the same conclusion. For
> example, cite Goldeneye all you want, but online Quake II or Unreal or
> Half-life can have the same or more multiplayer intensity. I'm not a big FPS

Multi-player sure...but the one player games have not changed since the
days of Doom.  Hit a switch here...run around to see what it did...shoot
anything you see while doing it.

I'm personally just not that drawn to online gaming so I would rather have
companies put time into making a good single player game.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 for sale
Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:06:33 -0600 (CST)

 
I have finished it...will likely not play it anymore.  Anyone interested?
Please e-mail me.

Stryder


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:16:26 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 1:55:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

<< Multi-player sure...but the one player games have not changed since the
 days of Doom.  Hit a switch here...run around to see what it did...shoot
 anything you see while doing it.
 
 I'm personally just not that drawn to online gaming so I would rather have
 companies put time into making a good single player game.
 
 Stryder >>


	FF7PC. =)

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:16:04 -0500


> I'm personally just not that drawn to online gaming so I would rather have
> companies put time into making a good single player game.
>
> Stryder >>
>
>
> FF7PC. =)
>
>--David


Ugh.. ok, I'm not gonna talk about my personal opinion of FFVII, but it
doesn't count as a PC game since it was ported from the PSX.


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:36:12 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 3:19:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< 
 Ugh.. ok, I'm not gonna talk about my personal opinion of FFVII, but it
 doesn't count as a PC game since it was ported from the PSX.
  >>

	FF7PC.  Has PC in the game.  On CDs that are formatted for a PC.  Only runs
on a PC.  I'd say that it is a PC game.

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Subject: Re: [N64] Re: Castlevania 64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:39:20 -0600 (CST)


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>I'm from the U.K. and will probably have to wait forever for >Castlevania to be released over here.

I got myself and 'evaluation' copy in the UK two days ago! And
I've got a UK model 64. Fucking top game, just wish I had a bit
more time to play it.

peace,
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Re: Castlevania 64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 19:54:58 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 3:40:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
LittleKathy@webtv.net writes:

<< What kind of top game? I hope this is a type error.. I got castlevania
 today. I have barely  just begun. More later. 
  >>

	"Top" meaning "good" I believe.

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:29:20 -0500

Yes, but we are talking about genres in general here. FF7 is a game that was
developed by Square for the PSX, no gameplay adjustments were made for PC
except for the addition of Save-anywhere. Therefore it is a console game.

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>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
><<
> Ugh.. ok, I'm not gonna talk about my personal opinion of FFVII, but it
> doesn't count as a PC game since it was ported from the PSX.
>  >>
>
> FF7PC.  Has PC in the game.  On CDs that are formatted for a PC.  Only
runs
>on a PC.  I'd say that it is a PC game.
>
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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:04:12 -0500

So, I assume everyone has read IGN64s story.  What does everyone think
about it?  After a few searches, I happened to actually find and
download that UltraHLE, but I only have a PII 266 w/ 64mb RAM.  They
were runnin the games on a 400.  So I assume mine will be too slow to
run it, although I haven't tried yet (yes, I have the roms).  What does
everyone else feel about this new development?


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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:05:49 -0500

Also, it requires a voodoo2 or voodoo 1, I believe. Those screenshots look
INCREDIBLE, though.

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>So, I assume everyone has read IGN64s story.  What does everyone think
>about it?  After a few searches, I happened to actually find and
>download that UltraHLE, but I only have a PII 266 w/ 64mb RAM.  They
>were runnin the games on a 400.  So I assume mine will be too slow to
>run it, although I haven't tried yet (yes, I have the roms).  What does
>everyone else feel about this new development?
>
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] free local calling
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:11:45 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 2:38:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> I don't get free local calling either, in NY, USA. It's 11.7 cents per call,
>  but that's a flat rate. I think that in Europe they charge by the minute.

Hmm. I get free local calls where I live in PA, USA. Just don't use that 10-10
stuff, it didn't save me any when using Saturn NetLink, or regular calls for
that matter.

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 for sale
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:21:55 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 5:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:

> I have finished it...will likely not play it anymore.  Anyone interested?
>  Please e-mail me.
>  
>  Stryder
>  

My advice. Keep it. You never know when you'll want to play it again. It may
not be tomorrow or next week, it may not be for a year or two, but you never
know.

Dave

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From: " Robert L. Horine" <rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu>
Subject: [N64] N64 Emu
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:26:13 -0500 (EST)

Where do you get the roms for the games?

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2: The Primagen
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:18:25 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 4:10:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:

> You can't go wrong with the Shredder, especially explosive shells. Also, the
>  Scorpion Launcher, Flamethrower [when closer up], and the MAG60, all do
>  wonders. Just be sure you restock constantly. You'll die undoubtedly, as I
>  died 4x the first go around, but you should have plenty of lives in any
case.
> 
>  Also just avoid the things that drop from the celing and explode, and take 
> out
>  those flying buggers with the Shredder to get him to come out and play.
Once
>  Primagen himself comes out, keep your distance, and KEEP MOVING. Aim for
the
>  head more or less, and you should be alright. It'll take some practice,
>  g'luck!
>  
>  !!

Or you can always cheat. ;)

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:24:51 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 5:42:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> I'm personally just not that drawn to online gaming so I would rather have
>   companies put time into making a good single player game.
>   
>   Stryder >>
>  
>  
>  	FF7PC. =)
>  
>  --David
>  

Too bad most of us played it a year before on the PlayStation.

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] PC Games vs. Consoles.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:27:01 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 6:39:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> 	FF7PC.  Has PC in the game.  On CDs that are formatted for a PC.  Only runs
>  on a PC.  I'd say that it is a PC game.
>  
>  --David
>  

It was first on the PlayStation. Or did really not know that. It's the same
game as on the PlayStation (with minor graphic adjustments & more bugs).

Dave

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] bad games on the N64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:16:18 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 3:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

>  I
>  can't really compare Nintendo, because the cart format discourages
companies
>  from making bad games since the carts cost so much. 

Are you certain? The cart format didn't discourage Midway from making War
Gods, Mace, MK Mythologies, and MK Trilogy. It didn't discourage Hasbro from
making Glover, it didn't discourage Rare from making Diddy Kong Racing.

Dave

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 for sale
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:34:21 -0500


Yeah.. I despise the single-player mode, but the multiplayer is decent.
Always fun to cerebral bore your buddies =)

>In a message dated 1/28/99 5:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>atcope@comp.uark.edu writes:
>
>> I have finished it...will likely not play it anymore.  Anyone interested?
>>  Please e-mail me.
>>
>>  Stryder
>>
>
>My advice. Keep it. You never know when you'll want to play it again. It
may
>not be tomorrow or next week, it may not be for a year or two, but you
never
>know.
>
>Dave
>
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] bad games on the N64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:44:33 -0800

Actually the cart format helps make bad games
since companies are forced to squeeze the
most out of a small amount of space instead
of concentrating on making a good game.  At
least it seems that way to me since there seems
to be very few good N64 games.
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/28/99 3:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
>>  I
>>  can't really compare Nintendo, because the cart format discourages
>companies
>>  from making bad games since the carts cost so much.
>
>Are you certain? The cart format didn't discourage Midway from making War
>Gods, Mace, MK Mythologies, and MK Trilogy. It didn't discourage Hasbro
from
>making Glover, it didn't discourage Rare from making Diddy Kong Racing.
>
>Dave
>
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] free local calling
Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:49:28 -0800

That would really suck to pay for local
calls.  However, do you live in NYC?  In that
case if you could call all over NYC as a local
call that wouldn't be too bad since it is a
huge area.
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/28/99 2:38:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
>> I don't get free local calling either, in NY, USA. It's 11.7 cents per
call,
>>  but that's a flat rate. I think that in Europe they charge by the
minute.
>
>Hmm. I get free local calls where I live in PA, USA. Just don't use that
10-10
>stuff, it didn't save me any when using Saturn NetLink, or regular calls
for
>that matter.
>
>Dave
>
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From: EastsideJM@aol.com
Subject: [N64] N65 emulator
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:47:55 EST

where can I download that 64 emulator featured on IGN today....does anybody
know?
thanks

--james

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] free local calling
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:39:58 -0500


Yeah, well, everything is expensive in New York. We have to pay sales tax on
clothing and shoes, etc. No, I don't live in NYC, I lie in the suburbs about
40 miles north of the city.

It's not that much of an expense, it's just about 7 cents everytime you dial
locally, no per-minute charges. I think the rate gets lower during non-peak
hours, like at night. Usually our monthly local phone bill is about 20-30
dollars.

>That would really suck to pay for local
>calls.  However, do you live in NYC?  In that
>case if you could call all over NYC as a local
>call that wouldn't be too bad since it is a
>huge area.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SF2Dave@aol.com <SF2Dave@aol.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 6:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [N64] free local calling
>
>
>>In a message dated 1/28/99 2:38:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>> I don't get free local calling either, in NY, USA. It's 7 cents or so
per
>call,
>>>  but that's a flat rate. I think that in Europe they charge by the
>minute.
>>
>>Hmm. I get free local calls where I live in PA, USA. Just don't use that
>10-10
>>stuff, it didn't save me any when using Saturn NetLink, or regular calls
>for
>>that matter.
>>
>>Dave
>>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] bad games on the N64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:42:27 -0500

You don't seem to understand what I'm getting at. The N64 has a lot of bad
games, there is no denying it, but they don't have games as bad as the deer
hunting games, or those barbie games. This is because it is cheap to produce
and release a game on CD. Also, when you release a PC game you don't have to
have approval from anyone. If you want to make a N64 game, you have to go
through Nintendo. You won't see a game which is basically just a collection
of movies and you make choices every so often on the N64, but they release
tons of that crap for the PC every year.

-----Original Message-----


>Actually the cart format helps make bad games
>since companies are forced to squeeze the
>most out of a small amount of space instead
>of concentrating on making a good game.  At
>least it seems that way to me since there seems
>to be very few good N64 games.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SF2Dave@aol.com <SF2Dave@aol.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 6:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [N64] bad games on the N64
>
>
>>In a message dated 1/28/99 3:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>>  I
>>>  can't really compare Nintendo, because the cart format discourages
>>companies
>>>  from making bad games since the carts cost so much.
>>
>>Are you certain? The cart format didn't discourage Midway from making War
>>Gods, Mace, MK Mythologies, and MK Trilogy. It didn't discourage Hasbro
>from
>>making Glover, it didn't discourage Rare from making Diddy Kong Racing.
>>
>>Dave
>>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] bad games on the N64
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:48:22 -0500

Midway is a big company, and even if their games suck, they sell well, so
some ppl must not mind them so much.

Just think about it for a second.. the N64 has about 130 or so games out for
it right now, over 3 years. Let's assume that this year about 100 N64 games
will come out. In the same time period, there will be literally thousands of
PC titles which claim to be "entertainment software". Probably only a few
hundred or so really qualify as a game. Out of those 200, let's say, there
will probably be only 3-5 great games, 10-20 good games. That's probably
gonna be the same numbers as the N64. But if you look at the proportion, 20
good games for the N64 is 1/5 of the lineup, while 20 good games for the PC
is only a tiny fraction of the total games released.

-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/28/99 3:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
>>  I
>>  can't really compare Nintendo, because the cart format discourages
>companies
>>  from making bad games since the carts cost so much.
>
>Are you certain? The cart format didn't discourage Midway from making War
>Gods, Mace, MK Mythologies, and MK Trilogy. It didn't discourage Hasbro
from
>making Glover, it didn't discourage Rare from making Diddy Kong Racing.
>
>Dave
>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N65 emulator
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:49:50 -0500

didn't some ppl get booted or something for discussing emulators a while
back? I don't remember, I didn't really follow the thread. However, Wezzer
made an earlier post that he had access to it, so you might want to contact
him personally, off the list.

-----Original Message-----


>where can I download that 64 emulator featured on IGN today....does anybody
>know?
>thanks
>
>--james
>
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From: *ReadERROR <ReadERROR@warzone.com>
Subject: [N64] Cheatfiles *!*CHEATS*!*CHEATS*!*CHEATS*!* 
Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:10:40 -0200

To all the gamers on this mailing list, Piracy101World and myself are prou=
d to announce the grand opening of The Cheatfiles!!!!!! 'Cheats for all pl=
atforms!'
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http://www.cheatfiles.com

I do the N64 section of the cheatfiles and I need some input from you guys=
 on cheats that I don't have [which are MANY since we just started the sit=
e].

Don't expect a sh|tload of cheats YET, but give us some time and we will b=
e the B-I-G-G-E-S-T distributor of cheats for all platforms [N64, PC, Play=
station, Dreamcast, etc.] in cyberspace.

You can bet on that! I would like to see some hints, tips, cheats, or just=
 general feedback on our new pride and joy: [THE CHEATFILES]. If you want =
to submit cheats, you can do so privately to me by email. ReadERROR@cheatf=
iles.com or ReadERROR@warzone.com. I would prefer the mails to come to the=
 warzone addy since this is my primary email address and the the others ju=
st get forwarded there anyways. Any general feedback can be addressed to t=
he mailing list or my email. Thanks guys,  and we look forward to the best=
 year in gaming and new cheats for the N64 yet!!!!

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From: Sean M Fernandez <oseannyboy@juno.com>
Subject: [N64] Secret Code
Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:51:03 -0800

In the February issue of NP they said that they hid a secret code on the
front cover of the January issue. They said that there were three
different codes. I found one of them. It is in between the V and the A of
 "Castlevania" It says HEEERES JUAN. Does anyone know what game this is
for? Has anyone found any other codes?

Sean
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N65 emulator
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:56:02 -0600

Beats me... I searched for an hour to see if it was legit but I can't
find a bleeping thing on the UltraHLE.

EastsideJM@aol.com wrote:
> 
> where can I download that 64 emulator featured on IGN today....does anybody
> know?
> thanks
> 
> --james
> 
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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Secret Code
Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:11:35 EST

In a message dated 1/28/99 8:53:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
oseannyboy@juno.com writes:

<< In the February issue of NP they said that they hid a secret code on the
 front cover of the January issue. They said that there were three
 different codes. I found one of them. It is in between the V and the A of
  "Castlevania" It says HEEERES JUAN. Does anyone know what game this is
 for? Has anyone found any other codes?
 
 Sean >>

	It is for Turok 2

--David

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:23:40 -0600

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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads (Alright, here's the URL)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:32:14 EST

I found this on PC.IGN.COM. The address was
http://www.emuunlim.com/UltraHLE/main.htm, and that didn't work. But..

http://www.emuunlim.com/UltraHLE/

does. Now, note, I'm posting it because the program has been taken off the
site. Not much there, but feel free to take a look.

--brian

(Please don't take me off! u can't d/l the program from that url)

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From: " Robert L. Horine" <rlhori01@athena.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:52:42 -0500 (EST)

Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
computer.

You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net 
or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:

> Just a friendly reminder to all list members!
> 
> Although as interesting as this topic might be, I would suggest that the thread be halted now, or pay the consequences.  :-)  Personally, I consider the idea illegal, as I'm sure many others do, and those kinds of activities are NOT allowed on the list.  
> 
> Take Eddy's suggestion.  Pursue this flight of fancy off of the list, and do not make any further inquiries into this topic on the list, or the usual will happen (ie. second warning, then week suspension).
> 
> -Ian Dickson
> Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:18:25 -0600 (CST)


This RAN GOLDENEYE!!!! on my 233 Pentium (not pII) 64 meg ram and diamond
monster 1.  13-20 fps. not real playable, but I crapped when I heard the
beginning music, and it loaded a level and worked.  

I gotta find some more roms of my other games.  I still am in shock that
it works so well.

Legal note- I own an N64, goldeneye, and my computer. :)

John Carson

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:

> Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> computer.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------         
> You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net 
> or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01
> 
> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:
> 
> > Just a friendly reminder to all list members!
> > 
> > Although as interesting as this topic might be, I would suggest that the thread be halted now, or pay the consequences.  :-)  Personally, I consider the idea illegal, as I'm sure many others do, and those kinds of activities are NOT allowed on the list.  
> > 
> > Take Eddy's suggestion.  Pursue this flight of fancy off of the list, and do not make any further inquiries into this topic on the list, or the usual will happen (ie. second warning, then week suspension).
> > 
> > -Ian Dickson
> > Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
> > 
> > 
> 
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From: Adrian Mander <adrian.mander@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads 
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:28:25 +0000

Ah but did you download the rom or make the rom with with your
personal copy of Doctor 64?


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:53:41 -0600 (CST)


On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:

> Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> computer.

We had this discussion before...opinions vary..  But, let's say that you
are allowed to own copies of games you own.  Well, technically you are not
supposed to be using the copies.  You are not supposed to use both the
original and the copy...only one.  The other is to be used in case the one
you are using goes bad for some reason.  so no, it is not legal to play
the games on your PC.

Stryder


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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:47:08 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Stryder wrote:

> 
> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:
> 
> > Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> > played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> > computer.
> 
> We had this discussion before...opinions vary..  But, let's say that you
> are allowed to own copies of games you own.  Well, technically you are not
> supposed to be using the copies.  You are not supposed to use both the
> original and the copy...only one.  The other is to be used in case the one
> you are using goes bad for some reason.  so no, it is not legal to play
> the games on your PC.
> 
> Stryder (gut check boy)  :)
> 

You are not allowed to use them both at the same time, but you can use one
or the other.  At least this is true for PC software. I dunno the Nintendo
Law.

John Carson
University of Arkansas                         


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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N65 emulator
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:16:00 -0800

How can people get booted for talking
about emulators?  Its about the N64 and
this is an N64 list right?
-----Original Message-----


>didn't some ppl get booted or something for discussing emulators a while
>back? I don't remember, I didn't really follow the thread. However, Wezzer
>made an earlier post that he had access to it, so you might want to contact
>him personally, off the list.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: EastsideJM@aol.com <EastsideJM@aol.com>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:50 PM
>Subject: [N64] N65 emulator
>
>
>>where can I download that 64 emulator featured on IGN today....does
anybody
>>know?
>>thanks
>>
>>--james
>>
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:02:50 -0800

Why don't you just buy a CD64 or V64?  They
are about $300, cheaper than buying an
expensive computer and it works just 
like the cartridge.  
-----Original Message-----


>So, I assume everyone has read IGN64s story.  What does everyone think
>about it?  After a few searches, I happened to actually find and
>download that UltraHLE, but I only have a PII 266 w/ 64mb RAM.  They
>were runnin the games on a 400.  So I assume mine will be too slow to
>run it, although I haven't tried yet (yes, I have the roms).  What does
>everyone else feel about this new development?
>
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From: Jason Wade <jwade2@coventry.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 29 Jan 1999 18:05:47 GMT



> >So, I assume everyone has read IGN64s story.  What does everyone think
> >about it?  After a few searches, I happened to actually find and
> >download that UltraHLE, but I only have a PII 266 w/ 64mb RAM.  They
> >were runnin the games on a 400.  So I assume mine will be too slow to
> >run it, although I haven't tried yet (yes, I have the roms).  What does
> >everyone else feel about this new development?

Know the address?



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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:23:39 -0600

WHERE DID YOU GET THEM!!!!!!!

John Carson wrote:
> 
> This RAN GOLDENEYE!!!! on my 233 Pentium (not pII) 64 meg ram and diamond
> monster 1.  13-20 fps. not real playable, but I crapped when I heard the
> beginning music, and it loaded a level and worked.
> 
> I gotta find some more roms of my other games.  I still am in shock that
> it works so well.
> 
> Legal note- I own an N64, goldeneye, and my computer. :)
> 
> John Carson
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:
> 
> > Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> > played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> > computer.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net
> > or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:
> >
> > > Just a friendly reminder to all list members!
> > >
> > > Although as interesting as this topic might be, I would suggest that the thread be halted now, or pay the consequences.  :-)  Personally, I consider the idea illegal, as I'm sure many others do, and those kinds of activities are NOT allowed on the list.
> > >
> > > Take Eddy's suggestion.  Pursue this flight of fancy off of the list, and do not make any further inquiries into this topic on the list, or the usual will happen (ie. second warning, then week suspension).
> > >
> > > -Ian Dickson
> > > Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
> > > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
> > >
> > >
> >
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:31:19 -0500

>Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
>played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
>computer.

Acutally, Next Generation Online said today in their Q&A section that
emulators like the N64 one, where you download a ROM from the internet, are
not legal, even if you do own the real game. 


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From: TheBump@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Here is ultrahle.zip
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:32:29 EST

I know I'm going to get booted off for this, but it's for the people's own
good :) And since it IS legal...

http://www.emuunlim.com/UltraHLE/download/ultrahle.zip

Enjoy!   ---brian

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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:37:45 -0500

>This RAN GOLDENEYE!!!! on my 233 Pentium (not pII) 64 meg ram and diamond
>monster 1.  13-20 fps. not real playable, but I crapped when I heard the
>beginning music, and it loaded a level and worked.  
>
>I gotta find some more roms of my other games.  I still am in shock that
>it works so well.
>
>Legal note- I own an N64, goldeneye, and my computer. :)

Doesn't matter, it's still illegal. Check out the Thursday Q&A at Next Gen
Online.


>On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:
>
>> Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
>> played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
>> computer.
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------------------         
>> You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net 
>> or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01
>> 
>> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:
>> 
>> > Just a friendly reminder to all list members!
>> > 
>> > Although as interesting as this topic might be, I would suggest that
the thread be halted now, or pay the consequences.  :-)  Personally, I
consider the idea illegal, as I'm sure many others do, and those kinds of
activities are NOT allowed on the list.  
>> > 
>> > Take Eddy's suggestion.  Pursue this flight of fancy off of the list,
and do not make any further inquiries into this topic on the list, or the
usual will happen (ie. second warning, then week suspension).
>> > 
>> > -Ian Dickson
>> > Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
>> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:42:52 -0500

    Hmm...  explain how it isnt then.  Seems the same as just about any
emulator I have ever had.

DR

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> >played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> >computer.
>
> Acutally, Next Generation Online said today in their Q&A section that
> emulators like the N64 one, where you download a ROM from the internet, are
> not legal, even if you do own the real game.
>
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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:43:55 -0500

    DOH!  I forgot that Next Generation knows all about the legalities of
everything.  Sorry Tom, but they are wrong.

DR

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >This RAN GOLDENEYE!!!! on my 233 Pentium (not pII) 64 meg ram and diamond
> >monster 1.  13-20 fps. not real playable, but I crapped when I heard the
> >beginning music, and it loaded a level and worked.
> >
> >I gotta find some more roms of my other games.  I still am in shock that
> >it works so well.
> >
> >Legal note- I own an N64, goldeneye, and my computer. :)
>
> Doesn't matter, it's still illegal. Check out the Thursday Q&A at Next Gen
> Online.
>
> >On Fri, 29 Jan 1999,  Robert L. Horine wrote:
> >
> >> Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> >> played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >> You can reach SEXUAL VANILLA Rob Horine at SyVyN11earthlink.net
> >> or at www.louisville.edu/rlhori01
> >>
> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just a friendly reminder to all list members!
> >> >
> >> > Although as interesting as this topic might be, I would suggest that
> the thread be halted now, or pay the consequences.  :-)  Personally, I
> consider the idea illegal, as I'm sure many others do, and those kinds of
> activities are NOT allowed on the list.
> >> >
> >> > Take Eddy's suggestion.  Pursue this flight of fancy off of the list,
> and do not make any further inquiries into this topic on the list, or the
> usual will happen (ie. second warning, then week suspension).
> >> >
> >> > -Ian Dickson
> >> > Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
> >> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
> >> >
> >> >
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:47:12 -0500

>    Hmm...  explain how it isnt then.  Seems the same as just about any
>emulator I have ever had.

Q:
Is it illegal for me to have a "warez" version of "Game X" on my system, if
i already own the
game? I figure that it falls into the same category as ROM images. I've
been trying to find this out
for a long time, and no one seems to know for sure. 

A:
Yes. It is not legal for you to have an unlicensed copy of a product, even
if you
also own a licensed copy. It's doubtful anyone would come after you for it,
but it's
still not legal. 


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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:54:49 -0500

    Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a product,  it
is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.

DR

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >    Hmm...  explain how it isnt then.  Seems the same as just about any
> >emulator I have ever had.
>
> Q:
> Is it illegal for me to have a "warez" version of "Game X" on my system, if
> i already own the
> game? I figure that it falls into the same category as ROM images. I've
> been trying to find this out
> for a long time, and no one seems to know for sure.
>
> A:
> Yes. It is not legal for you to have an unlicensed copy of a product, even
> if you
> also own a licensed copy. It's doubtful anyone would come after you for it,
> but it's
> still not legal.
>
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:05:53 -0500

>    Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
>still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a
product,  it
>is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
>unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
>purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.

Why do you think that you know what is legal and what is not legal and Next
Generation doesn't? I'm sure they have consulted lawyers on it, seeing how
they did a fairly large article on it some months back. You show me proof,
and maybe I'll believe you.


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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:18:30 -0500

    Well the 6 years of college I spent attaining my Masters Degree in Business
Administration,  My 2 years working for C Technologies on copy write
infringement,  my 5 years running my own computer software / hardware company
and having to deal with this sort of thing very often,  that coupled with my 20+
years of living and breathing the video gaming industry give me,  I feel, a
distinct advantage in this department.  So when it comes to the legalities of
"back ups", I think I am a MUCH better source for information than 2 guys who
are clearly partial on the matter,  I.E. Next generation.

DR

tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >    Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
> >still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a
> product,  it
> >is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
> >unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
> >purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.
>
> Why do you think that you know what is legal and what is not legal and Next
> Generation doesn't? I'm sure they have consulted lawyers on it, seeing how
> they did a fairly large article on it some months back. You show me proof,
> and maybe I'll believe you.
>
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:21:24 -0500

>    Well the 6 years of college I spent attaining my Masters Degree in
Business
>Administration,  My 2 years working for C Technologies on copy write
>infringement,  my 5 years running my own computer software / hardware company
>and having to deal with this sort of thing very often,  that coupled with
my 20+
>years of living and breathing the video gaming industry give me,  I feel, a
>distinct advantage in this department.  So when it comes to the legalities of
>"back ups", I think I am a MUCH better source for information than 2 guys who
>are clearly partial on the matter,  I.E. Next generation.

You know, if we were to ask the Next Gen guys the same question, How do you
know it is illegal, they would probably give the same answer you did. Next
Gen has yet to lie, so I'll assume that this is also true. Once again, some
proof would also be nice. 

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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:33:50 -0600 (CST)

I dont base my legal decisions on the recommendations of game sites. :)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >Ian , the truth is that emu's are legal, as long you own the rom being
> >played.   there should be nothing wrong with playing games you own on your
> >computer.
> 
> Acutally, Next Generation Online said today in their Q&A section that
> emulators like the N64 one, where you download a ROM from the internet, are
> not legal, even if you do own the real game. 
> 
> 
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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:36:25 -0500

>I dont base my legal decisions on the recommendations of game sites. :)

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:37:59 EST

So in keeping with your theory, any downloaded ROM you may have is 10%
ILLEGAL. Now, if you made that ROM, is that to say it's legal?

~Matt

<<  Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a product,
it
is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.

DR>>

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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:40:51 -0500

    Just read what they say.  They state infatically that they are AGAINST any and
all emulation as it has a tendency to become corrupt of the technical merits and
more about the illegal side of it.  Which is true,  but that doesn't mean that
emulation is bad or illegal.  Their personal opinions get in the way of their
reasoning more often than not.  I for one hate illegal copying because my company
loses money from it every year.  But I don't hold the emulator creators
responsible for what the people who use it do and neither should you.

    As for the Next Generation staff stating the same thing,  I highly doubt that
if they had the same background, or even something similar, they would be staffing
an online web site.  And I am not stating that NG is lying about anything.  I am
merely saying that they are giving their personal "opinions" on the matter.

DR


tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote:

> >    Well the 6 years of college I spent attaining my Masters Degree in
> Business
> >Administration,  My 2 years working for C Technologies on copy write
> >infringement,  my 5 years running my own computer software / hardware company
> >and having to deal with this sort of thing very often,  that coupled with
> my 20+
> >years of living and breathing the video gaming industry give me,  I feel, a
> >distinct advantage in this department.  So when it comes to the legalities of
> >"back ups", I think I am a MUCH better source for information than 2 guys who
> >are clearly partial on the matter,  I.E. Next generation.
>
> You know, if we were to ask the Next Gen guys the same question, How do you
> know it is illegal, they would probably give the same answer you did. Next
> Gen has yet to lie, so I'll assume that this is also true. Once again, some
> proof would also be nice.
>
> One question: why do you think they are partial but you are not?
>
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:41:07 EST

Er ... 100% illegal ... sorry ... hehe.

Anyone here gonna buy Mario Party? It's Castlevenia of Mario Party. I'm
leaning towards Mario Party ...

~Matt

<<So in keeping with your theory, any downloaded ROM you may have is 10%
ILLEGAL. Now, if you made that ROM, is that to say it's legal?

~Matt>>

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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:43:04 -0500

    Where did you come up with that figure?  10%...

DR

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:

> So in keeping with your theory, any downloaded ROM you may have is 10%
> ILLEGAL. Now, if you made that ROM, is that to say it's legal?
>
> ~Matt
>
> <<  Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
> still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a product,
> it
> is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
> unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
> purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.
>
> DR>>
>
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From: "Matt MA" <MA@legacyptr.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:51:00 -0800

>>> DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net> 01/29 10:54 AM >>>
>still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a =
product,  it
>is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
>unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back=20
>up" purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your =
back

This is basically the gist of the law in regards to pre-recorded music, =
video, software, etc... It has been this way for years and years. I don't =
see how an N64 cartridge is exempt from this, regardless of what Nintendo =
or Next-Generation says. I don't quite agree with the "single copy" =
statement, but that is besides the point. The point is that you can copy =
your own N64 cartridge legally...*BUT*...

Sure, it's technically legal, but does anyone actually use N64 ROMs or =
emus  for legal purposes? The answer is no. Well, maybe 1% may be using =
them legally, but if the other 99% are using it illegally, then for all =
*practical* purposes it is illegal.

Besides, the current N64 emu doesn't even run very well, just like all the =
other ones floating around the Internet. There's really nothing to talk =
about until a drastically improved N64 emu is developed, ala Virtual Game =
Station.

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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:49:17 -0500

    Thats the legal truth of it.  READ "distribute".  Do I agree with it, not
word for word, BUT this issue is about the legalities not my opinion.  Im not
Next Generation ya know...  ;-)

DR

> Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
>
> > So in keeping with your theory, any downloaded ROM you may have is 10%
> > ILLEGAL. Now, if you made that ROM, is that to say it's legal?
> >
> > ~Matt
> >
> > <<  Well we can see that you can copy and paste information now,  but that
> > still is wrong information.  As long as you OWN a retail copy of a product,
> > it
> > is your LEGAL right to make a back up copy of the said product in case of
> > unforseen damage to the original.  A SINGLE copy may be made for "back up"
> > purposes ONLY.  It IS illegal to sell or distribute copies of your back up.
> >
> > DR>>
> >
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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:51:43 -0500

Good statements...

Matt MA wrote:

> This is basically the gist of the law in regards to pre-recorded music, video, software, etc... It has been this way for years and years. I don't see how an N64 cartridge is exempt from this, regardless of what Nintendo or Next-Generation says. I don't quite agree with the "single copy" statement, but that is besides the point. The point is that you can copy your own N64 cartridge legally...*BUT*...
>
> Sure, it's technically legal, but does anyone actually use N64 ROMs or emus  for legal purposes? The answer is no. Well, maybe 1% may be using them legally, but if the other 99% are using it illegally, then for all *practical* purposes it is illegal.

More like opinion purposes.  But I understand your point.


> Besides, the current N64 emu doesn't even run very well, just like all the other ones floating around the Internet. There's really nothing to talk about until a drastically improved N64 emu is developed, ala Virtual Game Station.
>
> matt ma
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 backup devices
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:51:05 EST

In a message dated 1/29/99 1:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, cstu@isunet.net
writes:

> Why don't you just buy a CD64 or V64?  They
>  are about $300, cheaper than buying an
>  expensive computer and it works just 
>  like the cartridge.  

The Z64 is the best IMHO.

Dave

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From: EastsideJM@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:00:05 EST

In a message dated 1/29/99 1:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, cstu@isunet.net
writes:

> Why don't you just buy a CD64 or V64?  They
>  are about $300, cheaper than buying an
>  expensive computer and it works just 
>  like the cartridge.  

It's not cheaper for anyone on this list..we all already have computers

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:02:20 EST

In a message dated 1/29/99 1:48:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tmcshea@earthlink.net writes:

> A:
>  Yes. It is not legal for you to have an unlicensed copy of a product, even
>  if you
>  also own a licensed copy. It's doubtful anyone would come after you for it,
>  but it's
>  still not legal. 
>  

But Next Generation didn't say why it's illegal. They're sounding like
something my parents used to say, I'm sure you all heard it before. "Because I
said so." The way I see it it's about as illegal as having a cassette copy of
a CD or taping a movie off of HBO. As long as you're not making money off of
it I don't think anybody would care.

Dave

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:09:37 -0700

SF2Dave@aol.com wrote:
> 
> But Next Generation didn't say why it's illegal. They're sounding like
> something my parents used to say, I'm sure you all heard it before. "Because I
> said so." The way I see it it's about as illegal as having a cassette copy of
> a CD or taping a movie off of HBO. As long as you're not making money off of
> it I don't think anybody would care.

But they would care the minute you gave your taped copy of the CD to a
friend, even if you made no money from the transaction.  He would no longer
need to purchase the CD to listen to the music, and that results in lost
sales.  Same goes for distributing ROMs.

Greg

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 ROMs
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:16:50 EST

In a message dated 1/29/99 2:47:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, MA@legacyptr.com
writes:

> Sure, it's technically legal, but does anyone actually use N64 ROMs or emus 
> for legal purposes? The answer is no. Well, maybe 1% may be using them 
> legally, but if the other 99% are using it illegally, then for all
*practical*
>  purposes it is illegal.

I use my N64 ROMs legally. I play them on my N64 so I can keep my carts safe
from the ravages of time. When it comes to my PlayStation I only use the gold
discs (copies) and keep the originals safely locked away (with my N64 games)
because one scratch can ruin your day. What I'm doing is perfectly legal in my
opinion. I'm not making money from this, actually I'm spending more money,
those Z64s & CD-Rs ain't cheap, not to mention the black PlayStation. Have you
ever copied a CD to a tape so you can play it on your car tape deck (before
car CD players were cheap)? It's the same idea. At least I think it is. Ever
tape a TV show so you can watch it later? You don't own that TV show, so what
give you the legal right to make a copy of it?

Dave

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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:18:55 -0600

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DON'T originally own, or DIDN'T purchase, that are trademarks and =
copyrighted, you are infringing on those trademarks and copyrights and =
THEREFORE it is illegal. =20

Basic rule for anyone and everyone on the list:  Emulators, Z64, or =
topics related to such hardware or software, is not allowed on the list. =
 And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that has debated this topic, a =
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:28:05 -0800

But does everyone have a PII 400 and VoodooII?
 Also, the emulator only runs a few games
and who wants play these games on their
computer?
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/29/99 1:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cstu@isunet.net
>writes:
>
>> Why don't you just buy a CD64 or V64?  They
>>  are about $300, cheaper than buying an
>>  expensive computer and it works just
>>  like the cartridge.
>
>It's not cheaper for anyone on this list..we all already have computers
>
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:22:48 EST

In a message dated 1/29/99 3:14:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gregorys@xmission.com writes:

> But they would care the minute you gave your taped copy of the CD to a
>  friend, even if you made no money from the transaction.  He would no longer
>  need to purchase the CD to listen to the music, and that results in lost
>  sales.  Same goes for distributing ROMs.
>  
>  Greg

That's a good point. So I think it's safe to say this list is full of outlaws
since I bet that everybody has done something like that one in his or her
life...

Dave

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From: "Matt MA" <MA@legacyptr.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 ROMs
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:30:13 -0800

>>> <SF2Dave@aol.com> 01/29 12:16 PM >>>
I use my N64 ROMs legally. I play them on my N64 so I can keep my carts
<snip>

That's great that you have the discipline to use your copy devices/ROMs =
legally. You're definately in the 1% that I was talking about. 99% of =
people who copy game CDs or cartridges do it so that they (or others) can =
play games that they didn't buy.

Emu's kinda fall into a gray area, but I feel that the V64/Dr64 etc... =
really have no use except for illegal copying. SF2Dave excepted of course.

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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 ROMs
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:31:18 -0800

Dave,
    I think you are the only one then.
-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/29/99 2:47:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MA@legacyptr.com
>writes:
>
>> Sure, it's technically legal, but does anyone actually use N64 ROMs or
emus
>> for legal purposes? The answer is no. Well, maybe 1% may be using them
>> legally, but if the other 99% are using it illegally, then for all
>*practical*
>>  purposes it is illegal.
>
>I use my N64 ROMs legally. I play them on my N64 so I can keep my carts
safe
>from the ravages of time. When it comes to my PlayStation I only use the
gold
>discs (copies) and keep the originals safely locked away (with my N64
games)
>because one scratch can ruin your day. What I'm doing is perfectly legal in
my
>opinion. I'm not making money from this, actually I'm spending more money,
>those Z64s & CD-Rs ain't cheap, not to mention the black PlayStation. Have
you
>ever copied a CD to a tape so you can play it on your car tape deck (before
>car CD players were cheap)? It's the same idea. At least I think it is.
Ever
>tape a TV show so you can watch it later? You don't own that TV show, so
what
>give you the legal right to make a copy of it?
>
>Dave
>
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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:32:02 -0800

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Yes sir.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ian Dickson <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
    To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
    Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 11:18 AM
    Subject: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
   =20
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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N65 emulator
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:27:23 -0600

Yes...some people DID get booted for this same discussion area because they
were promoting the Z64 and other such devices.  Greg (list owner) gave them
the boot for a week, and being Greg's list, rules are that that kind of
topic is not welcome to the list.  Simple as that.  Don't like it, then
leave.  I really hate banning people, but if it comes to that...I don't have
any choice.

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158



>>didn't some ppl get booted or something for discussing emulators a while
>>back? I don't remember, I didn't really follow the thread. However, Wezzer
>>made an earlier post that he had access to it, so you might want to
contact
>>him personally, off the list.




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From: "Matt MA" <MA@legacyptr.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:37:28 -0800

Ian,

OK, this is a private reply since you've made it clear you don't want this =
kind of discussion on the list.

I agree that Z64 type of posts are 99% about illegal activities. But what =
about emus? Where does that leave products such as the Virtual Game =
Station by Connectix (PSX emu)? Legal or not, this is a commercially =
developed product that will be sold on retail shelves. Obviously it =
doesn't exactly apply to our N64 list, but the point is that emus are =
starting to become very commercial and mainstream. It is becoming less of =
an "underground" or illegal type of product. Are you sure you should ban =
discussion of this?

matt ma

>>> "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com> 01/29 12:18 PM >>>
Basic rule for anyone and everyone on the list:  Emulators, Z64, or topics =
related to such hardware or software, is not allowed on the list.  And I'm =
giving EVERYONE on the list that has debated this topic, a stern warning.  =
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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:35:39 -0500


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    Its a conspiracy I tell ya!  To bring us down by da MAN!  The
ESTABLISHMENT has got it in for us!

    K,  Im done... hehe  Agreed,  this subject is getting old,  but  I
still dont think its right for you to limit this lists activity to what
you believe is right.  This isnt an Ian list - its an N64 list.  I know
your position here so I dont need to hear about how you run the list.
Its a discussion group,  we are discussing.  Only one person on the list
posted the URL for the EMU.  Most of us are discussing the legal
issues.  Just becasue someone disagrees with you, they shouldnt be
punished.  If you feel you have to kick me off for a week then fine.
Let your ego grow, but you will respect our authoriti...  hehe  anyone
remember that South Park ep?  hehe  And if you do kick me or any of my
friends here off becasue of our constructive discussion then you prove
my point about the opression of discussion here.  It is time to move
onto another subject but Im sure this subject will resurface again
because it is relevent here.

DR

Ian Dickson wrote:

>  The fact of the matter here is this.  By downloading software that
> you DON'T originally own, or DIDN'T purchase, that are trademarks and
> copyrighted, you are infringing on those trademarks and copyrights and
> THEREFORE it is illegal. Basic rule for anyone and everyone on the
> list:  Emulators, Z64, or topics related to such hardware or software,
> is not allowed on the list.  And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that
> has debated this topic, a stern warning.  Any further discussion will
> result in a week dismissal from the list. -Ian DicksonBlasted_1 of the
> Black Hand
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Its a conspiracy I tell ya!&nbsp; To bring us down by
da MAN!&nbsp; The ESTABLISHMENT has got it in for us!
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; K,&nbsp; Im done... hehe&nbsp; Agreed,&nbsp; this
subject is getting old,&nbsp; but&nbsp; I still dont think its right for
you to limit this lists activity to what you believe is right.&nbsp; This
isnt an Ian list - its an N64 list.&nbsp; I know your position here so
I dont need to hear about how you run the list.&nbsp; Its a discussion
group,&nbsp; we are discussing.&nbsp; Only one person on the list posted
the URL for the EMU.&nbsp; Most of us are discussing the legal issues.&nbsp;
Just becasue someone disagrees with you, they shouldnt be punished.&nbsp;
If you feel you have to kick me off for a week then fine.&nbsp; Let your
ego grow, but you will respect our authoriti...&nbsp; hehe&nbsp; anyone
remember that South Park ep?&nbsp; hehe&nbsp; And if you do kick me or
any of my friends here off becasue of our constructive discussion then
you prove my point about the opression of discussion here.&nbsp; It is
time to move onto another subject but Im sure this subject will resurface
again because it is relevent here.
<p>DR
<p>Ian Dickson wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font color="#000000">The fact of the matter
here is this.&nbsp; By downloading software that you DON'T originally own,
or DIDN'T purchase, that are trademarks and copyrighted, you are infringing
on those trademarks and copyrights and THEREFORE it is illegal.</font>&nbsp;Basic
rule for anyone and everyone on the list:&nbsp; Emulators, Z64, or topics
related to such hardware or software, is not allowed on the list.&nbsp;
And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that has debated this topic, a stern
warning.&nbsp; Any further discussion will result in a week dismissal from
the list.&nbsp;<font color="#000000">-Ian Dickson</font><font color="#000000">Blasted_1
of the Black Hand</font>
<br><font color="#000000"><a href="http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158">http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158</a></font></blockquote>

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From: "Matt MA" <MA@legacyptr.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:42:10 -0800

Oops. Sorry guys. That was meant to be private. I'm still getting used to =
my new e-mail software. It told me that Ian Dickson's e-mail is: lists.xmis=
sion.com=09

>>> "Matt MA" <MA@legacyptr.com> 01/29 12:37 PM >>>
>Ian,
>
>OK, this is a private reply since you've made it clear you don't want =
this kind of=20
>discussion on the list.


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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulation
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:03:38 -0500

No, I already have a Z64,  And it cost 400, not 300.

Chad Stuart wrote:

> Why don't you just buy a CD64 or V64?  They
> are about $300, cheaper than buying an
> expensive computer and it works just
> like the cartridge.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Day (Wezzer) <wesday@saa.net>
> To: n64@mail.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 6:04 PM
> Subject: [N64] N64 Emulation
>
> >So, I assume everyone has read IGN64s story.  What does everyone think
> >about it?  After a few searches, I happened to actually find and
> >download that UltraHLE, but I only have a PII 266 w/ 64mb RAM.  They
> >were runnin the games on a 400.  So I assume mine will be too slow to
> >run it, although I haven't tried yet (yes, I have the roms).  What does
> >everyone else feel about this new development?
> >
> >
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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:05:25 -0600 (CST)


I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?  I dont
agree with giving out the address.  This is STRONGLY promoting something
to a lot of people, but come on.  Its on IGN64.com.  Why can we not
comment on it, and discuss it.  Is this not an N64 discussion list, where
we debate N64 things, or should we turn this back into a Zelda list.

John Carson

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, DrDweezle wrote:

>     Its a conspiracy I tell ya!  To bring us down by da MAN!  The
> ESTABLISHMENT has got it in for us!
> 
>     K,  Im done... hehe  Agreed,  this subject is getting old,  but  I
> still dont think its right for you to limit this lists activity to what
> you believe is right.  This isnt an Ian list - its an N64 list.  I know
> your position here so I dont need to hear about how you run the list.
> Its a discussion group,  we are discussing.  Only one person on the list
> posted the URL for the EMU.  Most of us are discussing the legal
> issues.  Just becasue someone disagrees with you, they shouldnt be
> punished.  If you feel you have to kick me off for a week then fine.
> Let your ego grow, but you will respect our authoriti...  hehe  anyone
> remember that South Park ep?  hehe  And if you do kick me or any of my
> friends here off becasue of our constructive discussion then you prove
> my point about the opression of discussion here.  It is time to move
> onto another subject but Im sure this subject will resurface again
> because it is relevent here.
> 
> DR
> 
> Ian Dickson wrote:
> 
> >  The fact of the matter here is this.  By downloading software that
> > you DON'T originally own, or DIDN'T purchase, that are trademarks and
> > copyrighted, you are infringing on those trademarks and copyrights and
> > THEREFORE it is illegal. Basic rule for anyone and everyone on the
> > list:  Emulators, Z64, or topics related to such hardware or software,
> > is not allowed on the list.  And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that
> > has debated this topic, a stern warning.  Any further discussion will
> > result in a week dismissal from the list. -Ian DicksonBlasted_1 of the
> > Black Hand
> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
> 

John Carson
University of Arkansas                         


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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:10:31 EST

Recently PSX IGN reposted their Resident Jigalo Real Audio file, a collection
of sound bites from Resident Evil that sounds like a low budget porno film;
very funny indeed. Well, I remember IGN64 doing the same thing with the sound
test from Mace : The Dark Age. Does anybody have that file? 

Dave

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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:13:34 -0700

John Carson wrote:
> 
> I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?

Do so at your own risk.  I fully support Ian's hard line in this matter.

Greg

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From: "Wes Day (Wezzer)" <wesday@saa.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:17:28 -0500

Agreed..  although this is something interesting and the list is more alive
over this than it has been for MONTHES, I think there are no real new things
to be discussed.  Everything concerning the matters are those of opinion,
and I don't really think this conversation is going anywhere.

Gregory A. Swarthout wrote:

> John Carson wrote:
> >
> > I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?
>
> Do so at your own risk.  I fully support Ian's hard line in this matter.
>
> Greg
>
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IGN64 PRESS PASS          Today's date: Jan. 28, 1999
_____________________________________________________


CONTENTS:

1. CONTEST
2. N64 TOP STORIES
   * CASTLEVANIA
   * WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO FREAK BOY?
   * FIGHTING FOR LIFE
   * A QUICK LOBOTOMY
   * NBA IN THE ZONE '99
3. GAMER'S LIFESTYLE
4. AFFILIATE NEWS
5. CODES/STRATEGIES
   * SMASH BROTHERS
   * SOUTH PARK
   * WCW/NWO REVENGE
6. GAMESTORE
7. THE SNITCH

_____________________________________________________


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To enter, go to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                  N64 TOP STORIES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CASTLEVANIA
IGN64 reviews the first 3D incarnation in the long-running Konami series

It's taken a while, but the 14th Castlevania game is finally here. In
development for a good two years, the Japanese design team at KCEK in Kobe,
Japan, had to overcome a lot of hurdles to get this game done. It's not as
good as Symphony of the Night, but it's certainly one of the top third
person action games on the N64. Check out our full review at
http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/2229.html


WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO FREAK BOY?
Has Virgin Interactive's Freak Boy been canned?

The industry term "Indefinite hold" describes Virgin Interactive's
once-promising 3D platformer, Freak Boy, for Nintendo 64. Once thought of
as one of the console's more ambitious titles, the game now rests
comfortably atop Vaporeware Mountain, where it shall remain undisturbed.
But what went so wrong with Freak Boy, described by Virgin Interactive's
ex-VP of Design Julian Rignall as, "one of the greatest games never made, "
as to lead to the project's untimely demise? Find out at
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6612.html


FIGHTING FOR LIFE
Eidos's Fighting Force is in risk of never making it out for the Nintendo 64

It was a big day for Nintendo. Eidos had officially signed on as a 64-bit
publisher and the company's first game would be coming directly from the
capable hands of Core Design, the same developer responsible for the
beloved Tomb Raider series. Sure, Fighting Force 64, more or less a port of
its 3D Final Fight-esque predecessor for PlayStation, was set to arrive
more than a year after its initial release, but it was a Core/Eidos game --
and it was coming to Nintendo 64. With any luck, the new partnership would
be the beginning of great things to come for Nintendo 64 owners. For the
full story, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6616.html


A QUICK LOBOTOMY
IGN64 has a quick chat with the slightly insane makers of Caesar's Palace

During a visit to Lobotomy Software headquarters in Seattle, WA, late last
year, we had the chance to check out the Crave-published Caesar's Palace
and chat about the title's progress. After getting brutally beaten in Death
Tank (the Lobotomy-made mini-game in the Saturn version of Duke Nukem),
IGN64 had a quick chat with Lobotomists Paul Lange and Dan Jevons about the
odd gambling game...
http://ign64.ign.com/news/6597.html


NBA IN THE ZONE '99
Konami is almost ready to release the new version of its basketball sim

Until a couple of weeks ago, NBA In the Zone '99 could have been renamed
NBA LockOut '99 but now the season is underway and Konami is ready to
release its new basketball title. The original, NBA In the Zone '98 was a
rather lame title with poor graphics and control -- one would hope that the
new version did more than update the player rosters. Luckily, it looks like
all the graphics have been redone for the new game. The blurring problem
that plagued the original appears to have been cleaned up with new
textures, and Konami says it's recorded all new motion capture animations
to make the game look more realistic.
Go to our complete preview at
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/10383.html


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Email a Castlevania postcard to a friend and be automatically entered to
win a $5,000 shopping spree at your nearest Electronics Boutique store. No
purchase necessary.

After you send a postcard, check out a host of other exclusive goodies from
IGN64 and Konami. Visit http://www.ign64.com/castle


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                  GAMER'S LIFESTYLE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Brooke Shields did it. Chelsea Clinton is doing it. Why don't you do it?
Get into college!

Find out how at IGN's super sister site, the Power
Students Network. Find your perfect college match, tackle the mountain of
application forms, and grab some free scholarship money. Plus, meet Terry,
a freshman at Harvard, and Chrissy, a senior in high school, as they reveal
the secrets in their personal diaries.
http://www.powerstudents.com

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)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                  AFFILIATE NEWS
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

NINTENDOJO

Nintendo's Japanese revival -- The end of the year is bonus season in
Japan. Workers commonly receive an extra two months salary in early
December which they eagerly spend on all the things they have been denying
themselves throughout the year. It should not come as any surprise then,
that Nintendo chose to release a number of AAA titles during this period,
and it seems to have paid off.
For a look at comparative figures, go to
http://www.nintendojo.com/japan/news/1999/jan2.htm


NINTENDO 64 UNDERGROUND

The Cellar -- Welcome to The Cellar, a cozy little niche of the Underground
just for the readers. Here, you can find some game help, reader's reviews
and editorials, top ten lists, and other all out wacky stuff. In other
words, Underground readers write the bulk of this section, not us. Updates
to each section will show up here. And we have no idea where this is going
to take us, hopefully someplace magical and ridiculous...
http://www.nintendorks.com/cellar/


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  CODES/STRATEGIES
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

SMASH BROTHERS
     > Change Outfits
     > Play as Captain Falcon
     > Play as Purin
To access these options, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/10494.html


SOUTH PARK
     > All Characters in Multiplayer Mode
     > All Weapons
     > Invincibility
     > Pen and Ink Mode
For these hot codes and many others, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/10075.html


WCW/NWO REVENGE
     > Access THQ Man (Black Ninja)
     > Drag Opponent
     > Enter Battle Royal at Any Time
     > Steal Opponent's Special Move
For these codes plus many others, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/codes/3875.html


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                     GAMESTORE
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Pre-order or purchase your favorite N64 titles from the IGN/EB World Online
Gamestore! For the list of games available, go to
http://ign64.ign.com/gamestore.html


?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
                     THE SNITCH
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last week, we had a Fishing Junior hand-held game plus five limited edition
copies IGN64.com The Magazine to give away for answering these questions
correctly:


1. In the BattleTanx vs. Snuggles commercial, what does the fried and
filleted bear say right before he coughs up some of his own stuffing?

2. What "rumor" guy from IGN64 has appeared on IGN Asylum (the Imagine
Radio show) twice?

And the answers are: 1) "BattleTanx"   2) Ed the Janitor


>From all the correct entries, these six were randomly selected by a
Tibetian monk who's interning for us.

The five magazine winners are:
Jeff H. of Vancouver, WA
Raymond A. of Hayward, CA
Dallas G. of London, CAN
Alfredo A. of Alberta, CAN
Colin M. of Washington, NJ

And the winner of the hand-held fishing game is:
Alex M. of St. Mary's, GA


Next week, I'll try to get my hands on some other N64 goodies to give away.
In the mean time, I've got a special announcement for The Snitch faithful
-- tonight at 6:15 pm Pacific Time, we'll be posting a special story about
the N64 emulator. That's right, you can play N64 games on your PC! Don't
miss this hot story!


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From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] Castlevania 64 review by Videogames.com
Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:20:50 -0700

Castlevania (Nintendo 64)
Score: 8.2
Review excerpt: "Unlike Symphony of the Night, with its RPG-like
elements and free-roaming gameplay, N64 Castlevania plays more
like the older games in the series (aside from the obvious fact
that the gameworld is now 3D). The game progression is more
linear, and each character has only two weapons they can use (a
main weapon that can be powered up twice and a subweapon). The
trademark special weapons are back (knife, ax, holy water, and
cross), but as far as items go, there are only a few that you can
collect during play, most of which are of the healing type."
http://www.videogames.com/n64/adventure/castle64/index.html

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From: Bryan Archambeault <Bryan.Archambeault@NSMG.Seagatesoftware.com>
Subject: [N64] N64 Emu - Look at your carts and manual!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:24:41 -0800

You people make me laugh with your legality opinions!  Take some time to
read the fine print on your cartridges and the manual that came with it.  It
strictly states that making a copy is absolutely illegal and that backups
are also absolutely illegal.  I'm at work, so I can't quote it, but take a
look for yourself and if you don't believe me, I'll type it in for you.

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From: John Carson <jcarson@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emu - Look at your carts and manual!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:39:45 -0600 (CST)


You make me laugh. :)
We had this discussion not too long ago.  Even if The big N says its not
legal, it may be.  In fact, I would say it is.  If backing up games you
own.  Every word put out by a big corporation such as nintendo is not
always the full truth, it is sometimes a scare tactic to help curb
pirating.  Dont trust everthing you read or hear.

John Carson


On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Bryan Archambeault wrote:

> You people make me laugh with your legality opinions!  Take some time to
> read the fine print on your cartridges and the manual that came with it.  It
> strictly states that making a copy is absolutely illegal and that backups
> are also absolutely illegal.  I'm at work, so I can't quote it, but take a
> look for yourself and if you don't believe me, I'll type it in for you.
> 
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> 

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University of Arkansas                         


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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emu - Look at your carts and manual!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:00:18 -0800

You make me laugh if you think that Nintendo
makes laws and that the statement on the
back of the cartridges means anything.
-----Original Message-----


>You people make me laugh with your legality opinions!  Take some time to
>read the fine print on your cartridges and the manual that came with it.
It
>strictly states that making a copy is absolutely illegal and that backups
>are also absolutely illegal.  I'm at work, so I can't quote it, but take a
>look for yourself and if you don't believe me, I'll type it in for you.
>
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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re2: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:26:33 -0600


-----Original Message-----


>John Carson wrote:
>>
>> I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?
>
>Do so at your own risk.  I fully support Ian's hard line in this matter.
>
>Greg


Well...it was challenged and met.  Due to his pursuit in this area, I've
given John a week's vacation.  Now...let's move on to other things, shall
we?

Are the graphics in Castlevania 64 really as bad as everyone says?  I'm
looking forward to eventually renting this game, but haven't made any
definite moves.  And what's South Park 64 like?  I'm planning on getting it
for the PC when it's released.

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:28:04 -0500

You want to know why you can't? It's because this is not really a public
list.. it is paid for and maintained by Greg Swarthout, so we are all here
because he's a nice guy and feels like providing a forum for discussion.
However, he is fully able and has the right to draw the line when we discuss
stuff that he doesn't like discussed.

-----Original Message-----


>
>I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?  I dont
>agree with giving out the address.  This is STRONGLY promoting something
>to a lot of people, but come on.  Its on IGN64.com.  Why can we not
>comment on it, and discuss it.  Is this not an N64 discussion list, where
>we debate N64 things, or should we turn this back into a Zelda list.
>
>John Carson
>
>On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, DrDweezle wrote:
>
>>     Its a conspiracy I tell ya!  To bring us down by da MAN!  The
>> ESTABLISHMENT has got it in for us!
>>
>>     K,  Im done... hehe  Agreed,  this subject is getting old,  but  I
>> still dont think its right for you to limit this lists activity to what
>> you believe is right.  This isnt an Ian list - its an N64 list.  I know
>> your position here so I dont need to hear about how you run the list.
>> Its a discussion group,  we are discussing.  Only one person on the list
>> posted the URL for the EMU.  Most of us are discussing the legal
>> issues.  Just becasue someone disagrees with you, they shouldnt be
>> punished.  If you feel you have to kick me off for a week then fine.
>> Let your ego grow, but you will respect our authoriti...  hehe  anyone
>> remember that South Park ep?  hehe  And if you do kick me or any of my
>> friends here off becasue of our constructive discussion then you prove
>> my point about the opression of discussion here.  It is time to move
>> onto another subject but Im sure this subject will resurface again
>> because it is relevent here.
>>
>> DR
>>
>> Ian Dickson wrote:
>>
>> >  The fact of the matter here is this.  By downloading software that
>> > you DON'T originally own, or DIDN'T purchase, that are trademarks and
>> > copyrighted, you are infringing on those trademarks and copyrights and
>> > THEREFORE it is illegal. Basic rule for anyone and everyone on the
>> > list:  Emulators, Z64, or topics related to such hardware or software,
>> > is not allowed on the list.  And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that
>> > has debated this topic, a stern warning.  Any further discussion will
>> > result in a week dismissal from the list. -Ian DicksonBlasted_1 of the
>> > Black Hand
>> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
>>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
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>University of Arkansas
>
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From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] Turok2 - level 3 - River of the Damned
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:59 EST

Turok2 - level 3 - River of the Damned

Amigoes!, (sp?)

There is that area in T2 level 3 when your in the green water
you'll find that looong underwater tunnel that leads to a grenade
launcher, a level key, and an ultra health. I have 2 questions:

* is the only way back out of this area to swim against the
  current, back through the tunnel?

* is there a re-generating ammo area here? I kept hearing the
  're-generating ammo' sound effect when I was in that area.

Mucho Gracias to all that answer!

Kevin

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok2 - level 3 - River of the Damned
Date: 29 Jan 1999 18:04:07 EST

First off, it's called the Death Marshes and it's a Primagen Key at that...so
there:-)

I can't recall if there's any regenerating ammo, but if you hear the sound,
look around. It's either on a higher level or hidden well, try checking behind
plants and so on. 

As far as for the way out, I went back out thru the tunnel. Thing is, I had
the Torpedo Launcher at the time, since I was going back to get the Primagen
keys. But I think you can make it back if you're real good at not wasting time
underwater, just use that map.

!!

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:34:16 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, John Carson wrote:

> 
> You are not allowed to use them both at the same time, but you can use one
> or the other.  At least this is true for PC software. I dunno the Nintendo
> Law.

I'm not sure that the law literally means at the exact same time.
Besides, at least with PC software laws, you can't install software on
more than one system.  So it could be argued that having a copy on your PC
(which is being used in emulation) and having the cart being used on your
N64 is the same thing as having a program installed on 2 different
PCs...hence illegal.  But this all merely legal speculation.

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:46:36 -0600 (CST)



atcope@comp.uark.edu

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, DrDweezle wrote:

>     Just read what they say.  They state infatically that they are AGAINST any and
> all emulation as it has a tendency to become corrupt of the technical merits and
> more about the illegal side of it.  Which is true,  but that doesn't mean that
> emulation is bad or illegal.  

Your reasoning has serious holes.  You state earlier that you can own a
single copy for back-up purposes ONLY.  Which is true.  Therefore, since
emulation involves USING a back-up copy, it is illegal 99% of the time.
The only time it could be ARGUED that it is legal is if your cart is
corrupt...which we all know is almost never the case when people are using
emulators.

> loses money from it every year.  But I don't hold the emulator creators
> responsible for what the people who use it do and neither should you.

True...sort of.  You are basically saying that even though emulators are
used for illegal puroposes for probably 99.99+% of the time and may in
fact cost game producers money if the emulation is good enough to be
playable, you still support them. Hmmmm...


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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 ROMs
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:54:44 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 SF2Dave@aol.com wrote:

> ever copied a CD to a tape so you can play it on your car tape deck (before
> car CD players were cheap)? It's the same idea. At least I think it is. Ever
> tape a TV show so you can watch it later? You don't own that TV show, so what
> give you the legal right to make a copy of it?
> 

Ok, I agree that you are using your ROMs legally, but you are tiny, tiny,
minority.

But what I really wanted to point is that a couple of people now have
brought up TV (and previously HBO).  You can't use that argument.  There
are different laws for broadcast stuff.  You can legally make a copy of
any show or movie on TV, but use only in your home.  Just listen to sports
shows and such, they nearly always mention it at the end.  They say it is
intended for the private use of their home audience.  You just can't
re-broadcast it without written consent (or something to that effect).
So basically, get off the TV stuff people!!!!

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:56:43 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Ian Dickson wrote:

>And I'm giving EVERYONE on the list that has debated this topic, a stern warning.  Any further discussion will result in a week dismissal from the list.

Even those of us arguing against it?  

Stryder


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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: Re2: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
Date: 29 Jan 1999 19:04:21 -0500

Castlevania 64    -    Sometimes.  The graphics are alittle bland in some
areas,  but they really are spectacular in others.  The sound is awesome.  Very
beleivable within the Castlevania universe.  Gameplay is alot like SM64 and
Zelda I guess.  Not as good as I thought though.  Unfortunately dissapointing.

DR

Ian Dickson wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory A. Swarthout <gregorys@xmission.com>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [N64] Opinions of the opressed...
>
> >John Carson wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree.  If we want to discuss the legallity of it, why cant we?
> >
> >Do so at your own risk.  I fully support Ian's hard line in this matter.
> >
> >Greg
>
> Well...it was challenged and met.  Due to his pursuit in this area, I've
> given John a week's vacation.  Now...let's move on to other things, shall
> we?
>
> Are the graphics in Castlevania 64 really as bad as everyone says?  I'm
> looking forward to eventually renting this game, but haven't made any
> definite moves.  And what's South Park 64 like?  I'm planning on getting it
> for the PC when it's released.
>
> -Ian Dickson
> Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Portal/5158
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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: [N64] End to the thread for the DR
Date: 29 Jan 1999 19:12:36 -0500

    I will be more than happy to follow this thread personally from now on,  but because
of the recent strictness of this list,  I can not nor will I continue discussing this
subject matter on this list.

    I will be more than happy to answer your statements and questions through personal
emails.  and Stryder, My statements are not full of holes,  you just misunderstood
them.  Email me for a more discriptive statement.

DR

Stryder wrote:

> atcope@comp.uark.edu
>
> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, DrDweezle wrote:
>
> >     Just read what they say.  They state infatically that they are AGAINST any and
> > all emulation as it has a tendency to become corrupt of the technical merits and
> > more about the illegal side of it.  Which is true,  but that doesn't mean that
> > emulation is bad or illegal.
>
> Your reasoning has serious holes.  You state earlier that you can own a
> single copy for back-up purposes ONLY.  Which is true.  Therefore, since
> emulation involves USING a back-up copy, it is illegal 99% of the time.
> The only time it could be ARGUED that it is legal is if your cart is
> corrupt...which we all know is almost never the case when people are using
> emulators.
>
> > loses money from it every year.  But I don't hold the emulator creators
> > responsible for what the people who use it do and neither should you.
>
> True...sort of.  You are basically saying that even though emulators are
> used for illegal puroposes for probably 99.99+% of the time and may in
> fact cost game producers money if the emulation is good enough to be
> playable, you still support them. Hmmmm...
>
> Stryder
>
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Subject: [N64] IGN PRESS PASS
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:11:11 -0600

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   * N64 EMULATOR HITS THE PC
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   * PENTIUM PC 64
   * A LINK TO THE WORLD
   * ANOTHER DEXDRIVE?
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   * FIRST OFFICIAL DETAILS ON GRAN TURISMO 2...
   * 989 SCRAPS SHOOTOUT 99
   * HIGH HEAT 2000 STEPS INTO THE BATTER'S BOX
5. DREAMCAST TOP STORIES
   * SEGA RALLY 2 MULTIMEDIA
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A LINK TO THE WORLD
More information on Nintendo's modem has trickled through
Although Nintendo continues to be quiet about its modem plans, Nexus
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ANOTHER DEXDRIVE?
MadCatz follows suit and cooks up a device similar to InterAct's cool
peripheral

Like the DexDrive, the Data Deck transfers data from Controller Paks to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re2: [N64] South Park 64
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:35:15 EST

In a message dated 99-01-29 17:28:19 EST, you write:

>   And what's South Park 64 like?  I'm planning on getting it
>  for the PC when it's released.
>  
>  -Ian Dickson

It's not even worth renting. Space Invaders is more fun and has more replay
value than South Park 64.  Sure the cutscenes are great and the langauge
mirrors the TV show, but as far as game play goes, Iguana through that out the
window. The control is fine in 1 player mode if you use the Turok setting, but
the GoldenEye setting is way too touchy. And both contol settings in
multiplayer mode are too touchy. The multiplayer arenas are tiny as heck. I
don't see how anybody could want this game. The single player mode is boring,
no boring is too kind. I've had acid induced nightmares that were more fun
than this game. And the fog, there is way too much fog for such low detailed
graphics. Unless the PC version is radically different I'd pass on this one.

Dave

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 ROMs
Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:42:37 +1100

At 15:16 29-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/29/99 2:47:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, MA@legacyptr.com
>writes:
>
>> Sure, it's technically legal, but does anyone actually use N64 ROMs or emus 
>> for legal purposes? The answer is no. Well, maybe 1% may be using them 
>> legally, but if the other 99% are using it illegally, then for all
>*practical*
>>  purposes it is illegal.
>
>I use my N64 ROMs legally. I play them on my N64 so I can keep my carts safe
>from the ravages of time. When it comes to my PlayStation I only use the gold
>discs (copies) and keep the originals safely locked away (with my N64 games)
>because one scratch can ruin your day. What I'm doing is perfectly legal in my
>opinion. I'm not making money from this, actually I'm spending more money,
>those Z64s & CD-Rs ain't cheap, not to mention the black PlayStation. Have you
>ever copied a CD to a tape so you can play it on your car tape deck (before
>car CD players were cheap)? It's the same idea. At least I think it is. Ever
>tape a TV show so you can watch it later? You don't own that TV show, so what
>give you the legal right to make a copy of it?
>
>Dave
>

I'm sorry, but I find your statements very suspect. Even if you are telling
to truth, why copy from a strong medium cartridges onto much weaker mediums
like disks and CDs? And copying a CD onto tape is actually illegal if you
are using them both at the same time. TV is different, TV is free.




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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] protecting investments
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:58:54 EST

In a message dated 99-01-29 20:43:03 EST, you write:

> I'm sorry, but I find your statements very suspect. Even if you are telling
>  to truth, why copy from a strong medium cartridges onto much weaker mediums
>  like disks and CDs? And copying a CD onto tape is actually illegal if you
>  are using them both at the same time. TV is different, TV is free.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au

Why do I copy them? Because I can. Because it's neat-o. Because I don't have
to worry about anything happening to my games. While Zip Disks are a bit
expensive, they're cheaper to replace than a cart. And Gold CDs are a dime a
dozen. Ok, they're not that cheap, more like $1 each. But that's still cheap.
What if let's say I'm playing Resident Evil using the Master Disc and when i
got to put it away I sneeze, drop the disc where it proceeds to roll (or
slide) under the tv stand. So squeeze my hand under the TV stand and try to
get the disc. But in the process of getting the disc back it get scratched on
a piece of steel wool that I didn't know was there. So then what? A game that
can no longer be purchaced new is ruined. But if it was just a gold disc there
would be no problem. Just make another copy and use the scratched disc for
target practice.

Same thing could happen to a cart. But let's say i'm on the roof pplaying N64
(it's summer). I take the cart out, sneeze and the darn thing drops 3 stories
to the street below and gets run over by a car. I'd be upset, those N64 carts
are expensive, but if it was just a Zip disc I wouldn't be worried because I
could just re-copy the game. 

All the games that I have copies of I own myself with the exception of one
game. That game is "Dracula X : The Rondo of Blood"  for the PC Engine Duo. 

Dave

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From: Stryder <atcope@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: [N64] protecting investments
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:05:59 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 SF2Dave@aol.com wrote:

> All the games that I have copies of I own myself with the exception of one
> game. That game is "Dracula X : The Rondo of Blood"  for the PC Engine Duo. 
> 
> Dave

Hehe...Quite understandable.  That game is one of the most prized games
among Duo owners and it sells for amazingly high prices on the net.

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From: Alex <alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au>
Subject: Re: [N64] protecting investments
Date: 30 Jan 1999 13:18:04 +1100

At 20:58 29-01-99 EST, you wrote:
>Same thing could happen to a cart. But let's say i'm on the roof pplaying N64
>(it's summer). I take the cart out, sneeze and the darn thing drops 3 stories
>to the street below and gets run over by a car. I'd be upset, those N64 carts
>are expensive, but if it was just a Zip disc I wouldn't be worried because I
>could just re-copy the game. 
>
>All the games that I have copies of I own myself with the exception of one
>game. That game is "Dracula X : The Rondo of Blood"  for the PC Engine Duo. 
>
>Dave
>

I'm sorry I didn't realise you played N64 on your roof. In that case I guess
it is okay.

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 question
Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:58:13 EST

This weekend I decided to rent Turok 2. My plan was to just put in the big
cheat and "breeze" through the game. I wasn't expecting much since I was less
than impressed with the 1st Turok game. But now I'm hooked, I haven't had this
much fun with a 1st person shooter since Goldeneye. Level 1 is freaking huge,
I hard it was big, but I didn't expect it to be as big as it is. So anyway, I
rescued the 4 children but I only found two beacons but I do have the 3rd
battery, I just can't find the place to put it. The two beacons I have found
is the one in the beginning of the level and the one near the boats. So where
is the last beacon?

I've also found it's more fun without using the invincibility & all weapons
code. And no, I didn't make a copy of the game, I'll do that when I buy my own
on payday.

Dave

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 question
Date: 30 Jan 1999 08:42:50 -0600

Yeah if you think the 1st is huge wait till you get to the 2nd and if
you think the 1st is hard, wait till you get to the third!!!

SF2Dave@aol.com wrote:
> 
> This weekend I decided to rent Turok 2. My plan was to just put in the big
> cheat and "breeze" through the game. I wasn't expecting much since I was less
> than impressed with the 1st Turok game. But now I'm hooked, I haven't had this
> much fun with a 1st person shooter since Goldeneye. Level 1 is freaking huge,
> I hard it was big, but I didn't expect it to be as big as it is. So anyway, I
> rescued the 4 children but I only found two beacons but I do have the 3rd
> battery, I just can't find the place to put it. The two beacons I have found
> is the one in the beginning of the level and the one near the boats. So where
> is the last beacon?
> 
> I've also found it's more fun without using the invincibility & all weapons
> code. And no, I didn't make a copy of the game, I'll do that when I buy my own
> on payday.
> 
> Dave
> 
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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: [N64] Fighting Force 64
Date: 30 Jan 1999 08:45:18 -0600

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ad, they had displayed Fighter Force 64 with a price and labelled =
"Coming Soon".  Ummmm...correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't FF64 put on =
the hold, or possibly cancelled?

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] Music
Date: 30 Jan 1999 09:34:15 -0600

I was recently very disturbed by the 'horrible' music on the N64
compared to the supernintendo... until I played Zelda and Turok 2.  I
love that song in Zelda when you go to Zoras domain, thats the best. 
All Turok Music is good but what actually is the deal with music on the
N64?  Does what people hear actually play any large role in the industry
or is it kind of a fill replacing silence?

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From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:24:16 -0600

He never said anything about unsubscribing. He just isn't sending anymore
messages. Maybe his keyboard has lung cancer or something

		Stone Cold Spencer

>You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of this,
>right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with the
>N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)

>>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64
>list. It's
>>> > been fun.
>>> > Trey



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From: "Chad Stuart" <cstu@isunet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 30 Jan 1999 11:13:44 -0800

Why would he still subscribe buyt not write
any messages?  That wouldn't make much
sense for someone who posted all the
time.
-----Original Message-----


>He never said anything about unsubscribing. He just isn't sending anymore
>messages. Maybe his keyboard has lung cancer or something
>
> Stone Cold Spencer
>
>>You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of
this,
>>right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with the
>>N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)
>
>>>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64
>>list. It's
>>>> > been fun.
>>>> > Trey
>
>
>
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From: "Nev Jr." <porkpie@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: [N64] Re: question..
Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:05:07 -0500

    Is anyone on a good playsation mail list like this one?? I can't
seem to find one..

            nev..


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:27:39 EST

In a message dated 1/30/99 9:09:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, cstu@isunet.net
writes:

<< Why would he still subscribe buyt not write
 any messages?  That wouldn't make much
 sense for someone who posted all the
 time. >>

	You can still pick up information off of the list by reading the posts.

--David

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros. 
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:30:37 -0500

He's gone.. if you run a who command on the server, TreyTable@aol.com is not
there. I haven't checked the digest list yet, but I would think that he is
not there either.

-----Original Message-----


>Why would he still subscribe buyt not write
>any messages?  That wouldn't make much
>sense for someone who posted all the
>time.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
>To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 7:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
>
>
>>He never said anything about unsubscribing. He just isn't sending anymore
>>messages. Maybe his keyboard has lung cancer or something
>>
>> Stone Cold Spencer
>>
>>>You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of
>this,
>>>right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with
the
>>>N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)
>>
>>>>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64
>>>list. It's
>>>>> > been fun.
>>>>> > Trey
>>
>>
>>
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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 question
Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:15:02 EST

In a message dated 1/30/99 9:41:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
writes:

> Yeah if you think the 1st is huge wait till you get to the 2nd and if
>  you think the 1st is hard, wait till you get to the third!!!
>  

My question again. In the first level of Turok 2 I found the beacon in the
harbor and the one near the boats on stilts, so where is the third one?

Dave

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Fighting Force 64
Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:22:19 EST

Anything that gets printed -- books, magazines, ads, etc. -- they all have a
lead time, ranging from weeks to months, before they get published. Meaning,
usually what you read will be outdated by the time you read it. Which is the
case with FF64 ad you saw. 'Sides, it's fact that Wal-Mart employess can't use
computers:-)

!!

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Fighting Force 64
Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:25:52 EST

In a message dated 1/30/99 3:23:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:

> Which is the
>  case with FF64 ad you saw. 'Sides, it's fact that Wal-Mart employess can't 
> use
>  computers:-)
>  
>  !!

I thought that only applied to 1st & 2nd shift employees. When I got to Wal
Mart to buy games it's usually around 3 am, when the people who know what I'm
talking about are there...

Dave

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
Date: 30 Jan 1999 18:24:49 -0600

I tried to email him but his email account doesnt exist...

Eddy Wu wrote:
> 
> He's gone.. if you run a who command on the server, TreyTable@aol.com is not
> there. I haven't checked the digest list yet, but I would think that he is
> not there either.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Stuart <cstu@isunet.net>
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
> 
> >Why would he still subscribe buyt not write
> >any messages?  That wouldn't make much
> >sense for someone who posted all the
> >time.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
> >To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> >Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 7:58 AM
> >Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
> >
> >
> >>He never said anything about unsubscribing. He just isn't sending anymore
> >>messages. Maybe his keyboard has lung cancer or something
> >>
> >> Stone Cold Spencer
> >>
> >>>You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of
> >this,
> >>>right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with
> the
> >>>N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)
> >>
> >>>>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the N64
> >>>list. It's
> >>>>> > been fun.
> >>>>> > Trey
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:54:41 -0500

doesn't mean anything, the AOL addresses have been messed up recently.

-----Original Message-----


>I tried to email him but his email account doesnt exist...
>
>Eddy Wu wrote:
>>
>> He's gone.. if you run a who command on the server, TreyTable@aol.com is
not
>> there. I haven't checked the digest list yet, but I would think that he
is
>> not there either.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chad Stuart <cstu@isunet.net>
>> To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
>>
>> >Why would he still subscribe buyt not write
>> >any messages?  That wouldn't make much
>> >sense for someone who posted all the
>> >time.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
>> >To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
>> >Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 7:58 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
>> >
>> >
>> >>He never said anything about unsubscribing. He just isn't sending
anymore
>> >>messages. Maybe his keyboard has lung cancer or something
>> >>
>> >> Stone Cold Spencer
>> >>
>> >>>You guys realize that if he has unsubscr*bed, he's not reading any of
>> >this,
>> >>>right? =). Unless he happens to be in some sort of mental rapport with
>> the
>> >>>N64 list.. just in case that is, we'll miss you Trey. ;-)
>> >>
>> >>>>> > I'd also like to say that this will be my final message to the
N64
>> >>>list. It's
>> >>>>> > been fun.
>> >>>>> > Trey
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:11:54 EST

D.Fentie writes:

> I tried to email him but his email account doesnt exist...

Now I wouldn't be so sure of that. So anyway, does anybody have any advice for
Turok 2? The first level wasn't that difficult, I got through it in about 6
hours, but I'm having trouble with the second level. I destroyed one of the
portals where the demons are through but I have yet to find the other one and
I haven't found any of the three sisters. Any pointers?

Trey

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Music and Rental Games
Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:48:17 +0000

> Date:          Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:34:15 -0600
> From:          D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
> Organization:  @Home Network
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       [N64] Music
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> I was recently very disturbed by the 'horrible' music on the N64
> compared to the supernintendo... until I played Zelda and Turok 2.  I
> love that song in Zelda when you go to Zoras domain, thats the best. 
> All Turok Music is good but what actually is the deal with music on the
> N64?  Does what people hear actually play any large role in the industry
> or is it kind of a fill replacing silence?
> 

    Well, I think the reason a lot of the music is bad is just because of how much music
 and sound taxes the processor because their is no sound chip. Most developers 
probably choose to have worse music to make the game run faster. But personally I 
would rather have it this way if the game runs faster and also I do not think that 
N64's music is that much worse than the SNES's. Forsaken, Wipeout and Goldeneye 
all had good music before Zelda and T2.
    And also I'm renting Turok 2 and Yoshi's Story now. Turok 2 is incredible so far,
just got to the first save point on the first level. The save points actually don't 
bother me, yet, I think it adds to the challenge, but I'll probably change my mind later 
on in the game. And I'm regretting renting Yoshi's Story. I knew it wasn't gonna be very
good, but I thought I would get it because I love the original.. Why, why, why, did
they have to make it so kiddieish and easy?? It's sad how Nintendo screwed up so
much on this one. Does anyone think they'll try another one? I REALLY hope so, a
sequel that's geared toward a little higher age group and that has some difficulty
would be great. Well, anyway, that's all I have to say. Later..

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2
Date: 30 Jan 1999 21:59:57 -0600

WHAT THE?!  Trey is back from the dead?

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> D.Fentie writes:
> 
> > I tried to email him but his email account doesnt exist...
> 
> Now I wouldn't be so sure of that. So anyway, does anybody have any advice for
> Turok 2? The first level wasn't that difficult, I got through it in about 6
> hours, but I'm having trouble with the second level. I destroyed one of the
> portals where the demons are through but I have yet to find the other one and
> I haven't found any of the three sisters. Any pointers?
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: win-thug@juno.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Emulator Threads -End of discussion-
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:55:53 -0800

Um. Everybody is basing these on different things, assuming they are the
same thing. MP3z for example, is a form of copying and is legal, unless
you delete it withint 24 hours, which no one does, so that's illegal.
Using a mini disc to record of CDs totally legal. Making copied CD's is
totally legal to. The only time it would be illegal if it is sold or
anything like that. Basically, it is legal if you use it "for your
personal use." If you happened to sell that CD or even give it to someone
for free, that is illegal. But for the Nintendo 64 cartridges, it would
be illegal if you purchase a copying machine thing, or download the ROM,
or getting it for free. The Doctor 64 thing is obviously illegal. You
won't find it at Best Buy, but many from a country half way around the
earth (CHINA OR JAPAN). Downloading it is still illegal, even if you own
the game. You are basically receiving FREE software things from the
internet when it has to be payed for. I mean, if you have a copy of
GE007, and want another copy, buy another one. But getting it for free is
wrong. Maybe if you create your own ROM, but how are you going to do
that? I wouldn't know how to do it and i don't intend to either.
Purchasing software to do that is wrong anyways. Why do you think
Nintendo is trying to put a halt on things like that. Why do you think
when you enter www.nintendo.com, there is this C with a circle around it.
Kind of looks like © doesn't it. It is immoral to do so anyways.

Winston Chan

P.S. Wow, I talked on this list!

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
Date: 30 Jan 1999 23:05:09 EST

In a message dated 1/30/99 4:57:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< doesn't mean anything, the AOL addresses have been messed up recently.
  >>

	They have?  Since when.  I mailed Trey a whole "." and it went through fine.

--David

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From: win-thug@juno.com
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 for n64 and PC
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:02:50 -0800

I noticed that since there was a turok 1 for PC, there must a t2 for the
computer. I found that there was. Cool. Now you can play with a 16 MB
card. But that's not the whole point of this message. Playing turok 2 is
fun on n64, especially multiplayer. PC and N64 turok games are replicas.
Each has multiplayer. BUT, one can support 4 and the other can support
many, and can play on all those servers using gamespy3d. Who would
actually get Turok2 for PC or for n64? 4 player is fun, but the small
screens and lag and the automatic turn off of the game is a bit annoying.
But for the PC, you need a pretty good one for good results. Of course,
we all have PCs or um cough Mac cough, but would the multiplayer on-line
be better. I guess the thing is, one has more players but also lag from
the internet. Not everyone has a cable. ?

Winston Chan

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From: win-thug@juno.com
Subject: [N64] Turok 2 for n64 and PC
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:02:50 -0800

I noticed that since there was a turok 1 for PC, there must a t2 for the
computer. I found that there was. Cool. Now you can play with a 16 MB
card. But that's not the whole point of this message. Playing turok 2 is
fun on n64, especially multiplayer. PC and N64 turok games are replicas.
Each has multiplayer. BUT, one can support 4 and the other can support
many, and can play on all those servers using gamespy3d. Who would
actually get Turok2 for PC or for n64? 4 player is fun, but the small
screens and lag and the automatic turn off of the game is a bit annoying.
But for the PC, you need a pretty good one for good results. Of course,
we all have PCs or um cough Mac cough, but would the multiplayer on-line
be better. I guess the thing is, one has more players but also lag from
the internet. Not everyone has a cable. ?

Winston Chan

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From: SF2Dave@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 backup devices
Date: 31 Jan 1999 01:25:19 EST

In a message dated 1/30/99 11:03:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, win-
thug@juno.com writes:

> The Doctor 64 thing is obviously illegal. You
>  won't find it at Best Buy, but many from a country half way around the
>  earth (CHINA OR JAPAN). 

Hey, my TV, my stereo, heck, even my Nintendo 64 came from Japan or China,=
 I
guess those are illegal too. Saying the Doctor 64 is an illegal product is
like saying a dual deck VCR is an illegal product.


>I mean, if you have a copy of
>  GE007, and want another copy, buy another one. But getting it for free =
is
>  wrong. Maybe if you create your own ROM, but how are you going to do
>  that? I wouldn't know how to do it and i don't intend to either.

I do it with the Z64.

>  Purchasing software to do that is wrong anyways. 

Right & Wrong are not the issue here. 


> Why do you think
>  Nintendo is trying to put a halt on things like that. Why do you think
>  when you enter www.nintendo.com, there is this C with a circle around i=
t.
>  Kind of looks like =A9 doesn't it. It is immoral to do so anyways.
>  
>  Winston Chan

Copying games is immoral? Aren't we taking this a bit too far? 

Dave


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From: tmcshea@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 backup devices
Date: 31 Jan 1999 00:27:56 -0500

At 01:25 AM 1/31/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/30/99 11:03:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, win-
>thug@juno.com writes:
>
>> The Doctor 64 thing is obviously illegal. You
>>  won't find it at Best Buy, but many from a country half way around the
>>  earth (CHINA OR JAPAN). 
>
>Hey, my TV, my stereo, heck, even my Nintendo 64 came from Japan or China, I
>guess those are illegal too. Saying the Doctor 64 is an illegal product is
>like saying a dual deck VCR is an illegal product.

Um, you can buy TV's at Best Buy.


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From: LittleKathy@webtv.net
Subject: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:33:47 -0600 (CST)

Who else has castlevania? The begining kind of reminds me of star wars
sote. Im not very far yet though.Im in the garden maze right now.Man was
I glad to get out of the castle with all those pesky skeletons.I hate
them.If you die the game is over ,but there are plenty of save places to
save your progress.Now if i can just get that sorry chainsaw monster off
my tail maybe I can get out of the maze.I give the game a thumbs up.


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Castlevania
Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:19:38 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 8:36:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
LittleKathy@webtv.net writes:

<< 
 Who else has castlevania? The begining kind of reminds me of star wars
 sote. Im not very far yet though.Im in the garden maze right now.Man was
 I glad to get out of the castle with all those pesky skeletons.I hate
 them.If you die the game is over ,but there are plenty of save places to
 save your progress.Now if i can just get that sorry chainsaw monster off
 my tail maybe I can get out of the maze.I give the game a thumbs up.
  >>


	That pesky chain saw monster is actually Frankenstiens monster, but he does
have a chainsaw. =)

--David

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From: catons@juno.com
Subject: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:35:59 -0500

   Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...  

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 15:24:22 +0000

> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Date:          Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:35:59 -0500
> Subject:       [N64] Future games...
> From:          catons@juno.com
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

>    Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
> Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
> big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
> few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...  
> 


     Well, aside from the obvious ones like Perfect Dark, Banjo-Tooie and Donkey 
Kong 64, I think Jet Force Gemini will be popular along with Smash Brothers,
Mario Party, Starcraft and Turok 3.. What series will be continued with the N2001
(or whatever it's called)? 1080 2 was said to come out for the next system and
probably most of Nintendo's other series will be continued with the next, too, 
unfortunately. 

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] smash bros.
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:28:47 -0500

It depends on what account you send to, when you send it, etc.. sometimes it
works, sometimes not. It might be fixed by now.


-----Original Message-----


>In a message dated 1/30/99 4:57:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>glacion@earthlink.net writes:
>
><< doesn't mean anything, the AOL addresses have been messed up recently.
>  >>
>
> They have?  Since when.  I mailed Trey a whole "." and it went through
fine.
>
>--David
>
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From: "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:20:59 -0500



>>    Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
>> Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
>> big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
>> few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...
>>
>
>
>     Well, aside from the obvious ones like Perfect Dark, Banjo-Tooie and
Donkey
>Kong 64, I think Jet Force Gemini will be popular along with Smash
Brothers,
>Mario Party, Starcraft and Turok 3.. What series will be continued with the
N2001
>(or whatever it's called)? 1080 2 was said to come out for the next system
and
>probably most of Nintendo's other series will be continued with the next,
too,
>unfortunately.


Miyamoto might be putting out extra quest for Zelda. They were originally
planned for the DD, but it's not coming here to the US, so I'm thinking
maybe a lock-on cart or something.

I don't think SC 64 is gonna be very popular.. anyone who wants to play SC
already has it for the computer, and I'm certainly not gonna pay another $60
for a game with no online multiplayer, crappy control via the controller,
worse graphics, no voices, and no FMV.

Also, you forgot about Earthbound 64, which will be big, as well as some
lesser known ones which will probably be great games, like Gauntlet Legends,
Beetle Adventure Racing, and Goemon 2.


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:46:25 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 2:38:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, catons@juno.com
writes:

>  Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
>  Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
>  big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
>  few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...  
>  

Without a doubt I bet there will be at least 30 messages a day when Perfect
Dark comes out. Probably the same for Banjo Tooie. Pod Racer will probably get
some attention, and let us not forget all the love/hate stories that will come
about with Starcraft 64. I bet Resident Evil 64 and whatever Pokemon game
comes out in America will get some time as well. As for the next system,
that's more than two years away. 

Trey

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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:49:21 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 2:33:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

<< Also, you forgot about Earthbound 64, which will be big >>

	Does anyone know anything about a release date for this game?  I've been
waiting forever to see it, but Nintendo hasn't even released any screen shots
of it, save those that are on the Nintendo Power Source web site.

--David

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Star Craft 64
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:55:23 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 5:33:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
glacion@earthlink.net writes:

> I don't think SC 64 is gonna be very popular.. anyone who wants to play SC
>  already has it for the computer, and I'm certainly not gonna pay another
$60
>  for a game with no online multiplayer, crappy control via the controller,
>  worse graphics, no voices, and no FMV.
>  

Except for the people who either don't have a computer or don't have a
computer that can run that game, and that's a lot of people. If Star Craft 64
has a good single player and at least an equally as good two player mode I
doubt the lack of online multi-player will sink the game. As for worse
graphics.. I think the N64 can draw those tiny people, tanks, ships, whatever.
Are you sure that there won't be voices in the game? If the company who is
making the port has good programmers I'm sure that there will be some voice,
but voices aren't essential to the game, are they? Unless of course the player
is illiterate. Lastly, no FMV? Cry me a river. Unless Star Craft uses FMV like
in Final Fantasy 7 I doubt that the lack of FMV will hurt the game. Besides,
realtime cinemas are so much nicer. 

Trey

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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:58:39 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 5:51:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
writes:

> 	Does anyone know anything about a release date for this game?  I've been
>  waiting forever to see it, but Nintendo hasn't even released any screen 
> shots
>  of it, save those that are on the Nintendo Power Source web site.
>  
>  --David

From what I interpreted from the Miyamoto interview, on IGN64, it will come
out with the 64DD, and then later on a cart. Who knows? I haven't got a clue.
I just hope Nintendo changes their mind and releases the 64DD in America.

Trey

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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pok=E9mon?=
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:11:05 EST

After a while, I've caved in and bought Pok=E9mon Blue. Oh. My. God. This =
game
is SO addicting! It's actually hard to explain. I literally player it all
weekend: got it Friday afternoon, played for 6 hours, stopped for a tad,
played another 6 hours, etc. It's great. How the hell can I possibly train=
 all
150 to level 100? Tons of replay value; it's like the game never ends. I'm
thirsty for some Pok=E9mon N64 games now! Well, gotta go watch Denver beat=
 the
pants of the Falcons!

~Matt


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From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re: [N64] Pok=E9mon?=
Date: 31 Jan 1999 19:16:30 EST

In a message dated 1/31/99 3:12:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< 
 After a while, I've caved in and bought Pok=E9mon Blue. Oh. My. God. This=
 game
 is SO addicting! It's actually hard to explain. I literally player it all
 weekend: got it Friday afternoon, played for 6 hours, stopped for a tad,
 played another 6 hours, etc. It's great. How the hell can I possibly trai=
n
all
 150 to level 100? Tons of replay value; it's like the game never ends. I'=
m
 thirsty for some Pok=E9mon N64 games now! Well, gotta go watch Denver bea=
t the
 pants of the Falcons!
 
 ~Matt
  >>

=096 hours is nothing.  I beat the game yesterday, I think that is month a=
nd a
week since I bought it, (I also have Blue) and as of right now I have logg=
ed
61 hours onto the game.  I'm still putting together my team and building
levels.  Plus, right now I only have caught 92 different Pokemon.  I did g=
et
MewTwo though (by the way, save your MasterBall because that's what you sh=
ould
use it on, capturing MewTwo.  He's on level 70 when you fight him).
=09Anybody have a good team put together that works really well?  Right no=
w mine
consists of a Haunter, a Venusaur, a Pinsir, a Poliwhirl, and MewTwo.  I
haven't decided what I want my 6th Pokemon to be.  I plan to raise them al=
l to
level 100, so they will be pretty much unstopable.
=09By the way, I've seen Pokemon on level 100.  It takes 1000000 Experienc=
e
points to get them there.  Right now my Venusaur is on level 58 and only h=
as
192000.  I have a ways to go.

--David


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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:20:40 -0600

Although the FMV was/is good I really don't care about it after I see it
once.

Eddy Wu wrote:
> 
> >>    Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
> >> Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
> >> big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
> >> few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...
> >>
> >
> >
> >     Well, aside from the obvious ones like Perfect Dark, Banjo-Tooie and
> Donkey
> >Kong 64, I think Jet Force Gemini will be popular along with Smash
> Brothers,
> >Mario Party, Starcraft and Turok 3.. What series will be continued with the
> N2001
> >(or whatever it's called)? 1080 2 was said to come out for the next system
> and
> >probably most of Nintendo's other series will be continued with the next,
> too,
> >unfortunately.
> 
> Miyamoto might be putting out extra quest for Zelda. They were originally
> planned for the DD, but it's not coming here to the US, so I'm thinking
> maybe a lock-on cart or something.
> 
> I don't think SC 64 is gonna be very popular.. anyone who wants to play SC
> already has it for the computer, and I'm certainly not gonna pay another $60
> for a game with no online multiplayer, crappy control via the controller,
> worse graphics, no voices, and no FMV.
> 
> Also, you forgot about Earthbound 64, which will be big, as well as some
> lesser known ones which will probably be great games, like Gauntlet Legends,
> Beetle Adventure Racing, and Goemon 2.
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:21:16 -0600

Heh, and don't forget that I'll be messaging like crazy when Earthbound
64 comes out...

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/31/99 2:38:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, catons@juno.com
> writes:
> 
> >  Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
> >  Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
> >  big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
> >  few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...
> >
> 
> Without a doubt I bet there will be at least 30 messages a day when Perfect
> Dark comes out. Probably the same for Banjo Tooie. Pod Racer will probably get
> some attention, and let us not forget all the love/hate stories that will come
> about with Starcraft 64. I bet Resident Evil 64 and whatever Pokemon game
> comes out in America will get some time as well. As for the next system,
> that's more than two years away.
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:22:53 -0600

The game should come out December of '99.  There are 'lots' of
screenshots check out:  http://welcome.to/MotherTrilogy
I've been waiting for this game for quite some time now...

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/31/99 2:33:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> glacion@earthlink.net writes:
> 
> << Also, you forgot about Earthbound 64, which will be big >>
> 
>         Does anyone know anything about a release date for this game?  I've been
> waiting forever to see it, but Nintendo hasn't even released any screen shots
> of it, save those that are on the Nintendo Power Source web site.
> 
> --David
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Star Craft 64
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:23:56 -0600

You forgot to mention the people that can run the game but don't have
internet access or modem...

> Except for the people who either don't have a computer or don't have a
> computer that can run that game, and that's a lot of people. If Star Craft 64
> has a good single player and at least an equally as good two player mode I
> doubt the lack of online multi-player will sink the game. As for worse
> graphics.. I think the N64 can draw those tiny people, tanks, ships, whatever.
> Are you sure that there won't be voices in the game? If the company who is
> making the port has good programmers I'm sure that there will be some voice,
> but voices aren't essential to the game, are they? Unless of course the player
> is illiterate. Lastly, no FMV? Cry me a river. Unless Star Craft uses FMV like
> in Final Fantasy 7 I doubt that the lack of FMV will hurt the game. Besides,
> realtime cinemas are so much nicer.
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:25:50 -0600

No, actually it is coming out soully on a 32 meg cart.  It is about #7
on the most wanted games in Japan and it isnt even coming out for
roughly a year.  The mother series was just as big as Zelda to the
Japanese (and some Americans).  Earthbound was going to be on a 64
megabyte disk but that was changed.

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/31/99 5:51:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Davidxvx@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> >       Does anyone know anything about a release date for this game?  I've been
> >  waiting forever to see it, but Nintendo hasn't even released any screen
> > shots
> >  of it, save those that are on the Nintendo Power Source web site.
> >
> >  --David
> 
> >From what I interpreted from the Miyamoto interview, on IGN64, it will come
> out with the 64DD, and then later on a cart. Who knows? I haven't got a clue.
> I just hope Nintendo changes their mind and releases the 64DD in America.
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re: [N64] Pok=E9mon?=
Date: 31 Jan 1999 20:07:19 EST

My friend has all 151 Pok=E9mon, and a few level 100s. 

Do any of you think that Nintendo might make the sequel to Pok=E9mon NOT o=
n the
Game Boy? As a sort of killer app for the next system?

~Matt

<<By the way, I've seen Packmen on level 100.  It takes 1000000 Experience
points to get them there.  Right now my Venusaur is on level 58 and only h=
as
192000.  I have a ways to go.

--David>>


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From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 Primagen Boss
Date: 31 Jan 1999 20:40:59 EST

How the heck does one beat the Primagen boss in Turok 2. This has got to be
the lamest excuse for a final boss I even seen. I get his energy down to
nothing but does he die? NO. He just says, "You dare?!", and his life starts
to fill up. That, my friends, is lame. Another incarnation, that would be
acceptable, but this is just stupid. So, how do I kill the sunofa?

Trey

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 Primagen Boss
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:21:29 EST

Allow me to enlighten you by repeating my advice to the other fella who asked
this just last week. Here's the original message I posted:

You can't go wrong with the Shredder, especially explosive shells. Also, the
Scorpion Launcher, Flamethrower [when closer up], and the MAG60, all do
wonders. Just be sure you restock constantly. You'll die undoubtedly, as I
died 4x the first go around, but you should have plenty of lives in any case.
Also just avoid the things that drop from the celing and explode, and take out
those flying buggers with the Shredder to get him to come out and play. Once
Primagen himself comes out, keep your distance, and KEEP MOVING. Aim for the
head more or less, and you should be alright. It'll take some practice,
g'luck!

And for the record, I think it's a rather neat boss. I'd sooner he regenerate
then just die on the spot. After all what fun is an end-all boss, that doesn't
take pride in going out with style? 

Aldo Merino
-Nintendojo!

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From: Devil929@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:26:33 EST

Earthbound will rear its head in the second half of '99, I imagine. Probably
around October or November I'd say. 'Course that's all speculation...

In any case, Jet Force Gemini is the one thing I'm dying to get my hands on.
Looooove action games, looooove Rare more. Perfect Dark can wait -- first
person shooters are getting a little loose at the moment. Duke Nukem is
another one I'm waiting for -- if Eurocom can convince me to enjoy the Mortal
Kombat series, then hell, they can do it for Duke. And the other biggie for me
would be Boss' GT Driving Championship or whatever it's called now. It's so
beautiful, *sniff*.

!!

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From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:52:26 +0000

> From:          "Eddy Wu" <glacion@earthlink.net>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       Re: [N64] Future games...
> Date:          Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:20:59 -0500
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >     Well, aside from the obvious ones like Perfect Dark, Banjo-Tooie and
> Donkey
> >Kong 64, I think Jet Force Gemini will be popular along with Smash
> Brothers,
> >Mario Party, Starcraft and Turok 3.. What series will be continued with the
> N2001
> >(or whatever it's called)? 1080 2 was said to come out for the next system
> and
> >probably most of Nintendo's other series will be continued with the next,
> too,
> >unfortunately.
> 
> 
> Miyamoto might be putting out extra quest for Zelda. They were originally
> planned for the DD, but it's not coming here to the US, so I'm thinking
> maybe a lock-on cart or something.
> 
> I don't think SC 64 is gonna be very popular.. anyone who wants to play SC
> already has it for the computer, and I'm certainly not gonna pay another $60
> for a game with no online multiplayer, crappy control via the controller,
> worse graphics, no voices, and no FMV.
> 
> Also, you forgot about Earthbound 64, which will be big, as well as some
> lesser known ones which will probably be great games, like Gauntlet Legends,
> Beetle Adventure Racing, and Goemon 2.
> 

    Yeah, I suppose that Zelda add-on could come out on cart, it certainly would
sell a lot of copies. Haven't heard anything about it in awhile, tho, so makes me 
wonder if they didn't just scrap it.
    Also, I think Starcraft will be popular, I have wanted to play Starcraft on the PC
ever since it came out, but can't since my computer can't run it, so I'm thinking about
getting it. And like Trey mentioned there are a lot of video gamers that don't have
PC's that may  get it. So, if Blizzard and Nintendo do a good job on it and hype it, I 
think it could be a big hit.
  
   
      

                         ZiG (Tim)
                         ICQ UIN: 606350
                         AOL IM: Zig15
 

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From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Turok 2 Primagen Boss
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:01:37 -0600

Its not lame... I have no idea, I put on the invinciblity, all weapons
and ammo cheats just for fun one day and it literally took my 20 minutes
to beat him... and thats with ALL THE AWESOME WEAPONS!!!!  (scporpian,
gernade, razorwind, flamethrower..etc.)

TreyTable@aol.com wrote:
> 
> How the heck does one beat the Primagen boss in Turok 2. This has got to be
> the lamest excuse for a final boss I even seen. I get his energy down to
> nothing but does he die? NO. He just says, "You dare?!", and his life starts
> to fill up. That, my friends, is lame. Another incarnation, that would be
> acceptable, but this is just stupid. So, how do I kill the sunofa?
> 
> Trey
> 
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From: "Ian Dickson" <ashamanx@cableregina.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 22:26:32 -0600

Yeah...StarCraft is a great single-player game.  What would really be neat,
though, is if they had the same kind of style of maps that you use in the PC
version.  People create actual levels themselves and distribute them
throughout the net, allowing other people to try there skills at them.  With
the recent release of the Dexdrive, I think this may help the longevity of
single-player SC on the N64.  Hmmmm...might almost be worth it, if I didn't
already own StarCraft.

-Ian Dickson
Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
http://members.xoom.com/bhsc


>    Yeah, I suppose that Zelda add-on could come out on cart, it certainly
would
>sell a lot of copies. Haven't heard anything about it in awhile, tho, so
makes me
>wonder if they didn't just scrap it.
>    Also, I think Starcraft will be popular, I have wanted to play
Starcraft on the PC
>ever since it came out, but can't since my computer can't run it, so I'm
thinking about
>getting it. And like Trey mentioned there are a lot of video gamers that
don't have
>PC's that may  get it. So, if Blizzard and Nintendo do a good job on it and
hype it, I
>think it could be a big hit.



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From: DrDweezle <dweezle@surfshop.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 23:35:47 -0500

The DR's list of anticipated games:

1    -    Perfect Dark   ---  An obvious answer!
2    -    Donkey Kong 64  ---  Here for curiousity sake.
3    -    Shadow Man  ---  I've been waiting too long for a horror-type game
4    -    Harvest Moon 64  ---  AH!  Finally!  I Loved this game on my SNES!
5    -    Earthbound 64  ---  I'm ready for something revolutionary!  Let's
see what Nintendo has got left with this one, shall we?

DR

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Future!*
D.B.P. 1999



catons@juno.com wrote:

>    Zelda has come, Zelda has gone, Turok 2 was/is here, and is moving on,
> Rogue Squadron wasn't a big hit on this list either.  Looking on, what
> big games are coming out that would compete with the popularity of these
> few mentioned?  And what ones will they save for the next system...
>
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From: win-thug@juno.com
Subject: Re: [N64] N64 backup devices
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:09:53 -0800


>> The Doctor 64 thing is obviously illegal. You
>>  won't find it at Best Buy, but many from a country half way around 
>the
>>  earth (CHINA OR JAPAN). 
>
>Hey, my TV, my stereo, heck, even my Nintendo 64 came from Japan or 
>China,=
> I
>guess those are illegal too. Saying the Doctor 64 is an illegal 
>product is
>like saying a dual deck VCR is an illegal product.

I never said anything is from China or Japan is illegal. If that were
true, all hardware from there would be illegal. I'm just saying that a
majority of the copying devices are made in those countries, the same
countries that make the system. I mean, it seems like Japan software and
hardware- like games - is usually made from Japan. There are a lot of
great games from different countries and companies as well. i.e.
RareWare. I think that's British. Anyways, i'm talking off topic. I'm
saying that many machines are made from countries in Asia. Don't get me
wrong saying I'm racist or anything. I'm asian as well.

Winston Chan

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From: win-thug@juno.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Future games...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:18:26 -0800

IMHO, Starcraft 64 wouldn't be as great on the n64 as it is now on the
PC. I mean, the transfer from PC to N64 won't be all that smooth. But
like Ian said, it would be great to make the maps and all that on the
n64. That would be pretty easy, seeing that maps on the PC aren't that
big, about 100kilobytes. But then again, the memory cards aren't that
big. No use having 8 player maps too. The control could be crappy, unless
there is a mouse. There might be voice, but it would not be all that
clear. The messages would be in text anyways. I guess single player would
be good enough, and maybe an option to play against the AI for a 1 on 1,
but that would be boring. 1 on 1 against a human would almost be
impossible. I mean, one could easily take a glimpse at the other persons
screen. hehe. Actually, it wouldn't be worth the effort to make it for
the n64. By the time it comes out, there will be like a starcraft 2
already, seeing that Brood Wars is out for 2 months already.

Winston Chan

On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:26:32 -0600 "Ian Dickson"
<ashamanx@cableregina.com> writes:
>Yeah...StarCraft is a great single-player game.  What would really be 
>neat,
>though, is if they had the same kind of style of maps that you use in 
>the PC
>version.  People create actual levels themselves and distribute them
>throughout the net, allowing other people to try there skills at them. 
> With
>the recent release of the Dexdrive, I think this may help the 
>longevity of
>single-player SC on the N64.  Hmmmm...might almost be worth it, if I 
>didn't
>already own StarCraft.
>
>-Ian Dickson
>Blasted_1 of the Black Hand
>http://members.xoom.com/bhsc
>
>
>>    Yeah, I suppose that Zelda add-on could come out on cart, it 
>certainly
>would
>>sell a lot of copies. Haven't heard anything about it in awhile, tho, 
>so
>makes me
>>wonder if they didn't just scrap it.
>>    Also, I think Starcraft will be popular, I have wanted to play
>Starcraft on the PC
>>ever since it came out, but can't since my computer can't run it, so 
>I'm
>thinking about
>>getting it. And like Trey mentioned there are a lot of video gamers 
>that
>don't have
>>PC's that may  get it. So, if Blizzard and Nintendo do a good job on 
>it and
>hype it, I
>>think it could be a big hit.
>
>
>
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