Hi. I'm Glacion, the reviews editor at Game Nation, among = other=20 jobs. You
remember a while back when there was a discussion of = a=20 website based on
members of this mailing list (The one typified by = the long=20 lists of name
suggestions and the requests to take the discussion off = the=20 list?) Well, a
few of us took action, and now the site actually = exists. We have a server,
and our own domain. Game Nation = should be=20 officially open later this week.

Right now, we have about 11=20 members. I personally oversee the Reviews
Section (hence the = title:=20 Reviews Editor). Lately, I've been noticing a
problem... I = don't have=20 that many reviews! In total, I have about 15
reviews for 10=20 games. So here's a chance for those of you on the list to=20 get
involved. If possible, write a review of any game you have = for the=20 N64.
The reviews I have right now are for Aerfighters,=20 Bomberman,
Chameleon Twist, DKR, Extreme-G, Goldeneye, Mario Kart, = Mortal=20 Kombat,
Robotron, and Starfox, so try to stay away from those = titles. =20 My
goal is to have at least one review for every N64 game out by the = end=20 of
this month. Even if you don't have internet access, you can = mail the=20 review
straight to me at glacion@earthlink.net . = I would=20 really appreciate any
contributions.

This is the format of the = reviews:
First, you would write a review of the game. Then, = rate the=20 game on a scale
of 1 to 10 (integers only) in five categories:
1.=20 Graphics
2. Music/Sound
3. Gameplay/Control
4. Fun Factor
5. = Replay=20 Value.
Finally, you should write a short summary of the review, = saying=20 whether the
game is worth buying. Then give it an overall = rating (this=20 one can include
one decimal place.) If the review is not a = total piece=20 of crap, I'll format
it in HTML, and publish it on our site. =20

Besides taking something from the mailing list, Game Nation = would also=20 be
giving something back. I'm hoping to institute sort of=20 a
"request-upon-demand" system for those of you without = internet=20 access.
Every so often I would publish a list of the reviews = available=20 on
Game Nation to the list, and you could request that certain = reviews be=20 sent
directly to you by email, or posted to the list. =

This is=20 just one of the ways we're trying to integrate the mailing list = into
our=20 site. You'll probably hear more about these in a message = from
Siemon=20 later this week.

That's all I have to say for now. I = know=20 you all have plenty of N64 sites
to visit, but please give ours a = try, it's=20 different than what you're used to.
Thanx. And don't forget to write = some=20 reviews!

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---------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01BD30CB.DDEAF860-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russ Lapenna" Subject: Re[2]: [N64] Mario special jump Date: 03 Feb 1998 20:31:42 EST Thanks!!!!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: n64@lists.xmission.com at SMTPGATE after 120 stars you can get to the roof using the cannon yoshi is there he will give you 100 lives and give you a nice speech but then, do a triple jump you will see that you sparkle and this benefits you in that if you triple jump off a high area, you will be unharmed when you hit bottom it looks nice -----Original Message----- > > >>>> 02/03/98 10:55am >>> >From russ_lapenna@hrcc.on.ca Tue Feb 03 10:55:00 1998 >Received: from mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22] > by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #4) >From: "Russ Lapenna" > >Well no one is reaponding about the 120 stars thing, but I do rmember someone >mentioning Yoshi giving Mario a special triple jump after getting 120 stars. > >This didn't happen to me, he just gave me my 100 lives and then walked away and >jumped off the roof. Did I miss something? Is there some way to get him back??? > >Help > >Russ > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gwaldo69@juno.com (Jabarii Z Ruamiel) Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 03 Feb 1998 19:06:29 -0600 I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to show you what kind of people you represent. Jabarii E-mail gwaldo69@juno.com On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:29:25 -0800 "Dregan" writes: > >Russ Lapenna wrote: >> >> >There is nothing to do in Mario 64 after you beat it, >> >i finshed the game with all 120 stars in 3 days, no sleep of >course. >> >Then i looked for any secrets to be found for 2 months, then went >> >through it again. The only thing i know that you can do is the >castle >> >roof glitch were you fall trough the roof and land inside the >castle. >> >And there is no 2 player or lugie in mario 64 ether, it isnt going >to >> >happen, so quit dreaming already ! >> >> You are wrong here. One thing I do know of is that if you go >> back and race the penguin he is much bigger, also some other things >> were mentioned on this list that I'm trying to get people to tell >me >> about. I didn't know about the falling through the roof thing, why >> didn't you post that to my original message. >> >> Russ > >How do you fall through the roof?? >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >By the way russ didnt write this i did (Dregan) >To fall the roof, first use the cannon to get on the castle, get your >flight cap, triple jump to the 2nd level from the very top peak, then >you must run up straight up the side, i cant rember witch side, but >thers only 4 sides, if you fall trough, its real glitchy, the only >way to get out is to do a back flip. >Sam >Nurgatomic Dustbin >www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >.... > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gwaldo69@juno.com (Jabarii Z Ruamiel) Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 03 Feb 1998 19:06:29 -0600 I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to show you what kind of people you represent. Jabarii E-mail gwaldo69@juno.com On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:29:25 -0800 "Dregan" writes: > >Russ Lapenna wrote: >> >> >There is nothing to do in Mario 64 after you beat it, >> >i finshed the game with all 120 stars in 3 days, no sleep of >course. >> >Then i looked for any secrets to be found for 2 months, then went >> >through it again. The only thing i know that you can do is the >castle >> >roof glitch were you fall trough the roof and land inside the >castle. >> >And there is no 2 player or lugie in mario 64 ether, it isnt going >to >> >happen, so quit dreaming already ! >> >> You are wrong here. One thing I do know of is that if you go >> back and race the penguin he is much bigger, also some other things >> were mentioned on this list that I'm trying to get people to tell >me >> about. I didn't know about the falling through the roof thing, why >> didn't you post that to my original message. >> >> Russ > >How do you fall through the roof?? >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >By the way russ didnt write this i did (Dregan) >To fall the roof, first use the cannon to get on the castle, get your >flight cap, triple jump to the 2nd level from the very top peak, then >you must run up straight up the side, i cant rember witch side, but >thers only 4 sides, if you fall trough, its real glitchy, the only >way to get out is to do a back flip. >Sam >Nurgatomic Dustbin >www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >.... > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 03 Feb 1998 18:42:37 -0800 >>Zelda 64 will ship in Early april, in about 2 months, i had software > >>ect. look it up in there computer database, and they dont pre-sell >>anything till they are sure its going to be released in the next two > >>months, i will say that nintendo does have a bad habit of pushing >>relaease dates back, but they need this game on the shelves, not in >a >>on a drawing board, anyway its only 10 dollars to pre-purchase it, >>and i rather be first in line and sure of getting a copy first. >>And i wouldnt even bring this up if i wasnt 100% sure that i was >>accurate. > >I believe that release date is for JAPAN-- not the U.S. >Sorry, but Zelda was released in overseas a couple of weaks ago, you >can buy it right now if you like, wont make sense thoug.h Are you, like, a complete idiot or have I just missed the most important event in '98? Wait, make that: Are you a complete idiot or did we ALL just miss the most important event of 98?? Bet you've been talking to storekeepers a bit too much. Don't shop at the big stores, they'll allways make you look like a fool on the list... kleinemans Sorry asshole, but the manager at my local software has been my best friend since we were kids, he doesnt blow smoke up my ass, he's always let me in on news that isnt pose to get out, i regret i ever told you know. and just to let you know iv played zelda 64 already, but did make 1 mistake though, it wont be released here till june or july, for a fact. thank you very much. Dregan ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation, will be around somewhere soon | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| | | | Prehistoric bloke: "Tough luck kid..." | |Kleinemans: BANG! | | | |_____________________________________________________________________ | [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: [N64] Quest 64 Date: 03 Feb 1998 20:48:30 -0600 hi!!! hey, i just saw the release dates at ign64.com, and Quest 64 appears as a bold date, (recently changd.). so, i wonder, did it move up, or down? -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: [N64] Quest 64 Date: 03 Feb 1998 20:48:48 -0600 hi!!! hey, i just saw the release dates at ign64.com, and Quest 64 appears as a bold date, (recently changd.). so, i wonder, did it move up, or down? i think they should say that :( -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 03 Feb 1998 22:17:29 -0500 >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to >show you what kind of people you represent. Get a life. If you were denied the "right"(it's a PRIVILEGE-- not a right) to post on this list, it was due to something you did-- not who you are. Moderators(these ones anyways), ban on actions-- not on who you are. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dvader" Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:29:44 -0600 I hope this is a joke, because if it isn't, this guy is gonna get so flamed (off the list of course). To make this N64 related, anyone played fighter's destiny? >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to >show you what kind of people you represent. > > >Jabarii >E-mail >gwaldo69@juno.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: [N64] RE 2 = YS Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:33:34 -0600 GolfMade@aol.com wrote: > P.S. I played Resident Evil 2 at a friends house today, and I just have to > say It Rocks! The intro is awesome and the sound and graphics are great, I > just might have to buy a PSX :) > People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very easy. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] Good news and bad news (for N64 owners) Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:44:22 -0600 Tyler V. Snow wrote: > Next Generation wasn't too excited about the game in their review. I > don't think this game will be even worth a rent. How is ANY game not worth a rent? Heck, if you play it for 2 hours - you paid less for it than you would to see a movie in a theater. > >I always thought that RPG's catered more to a small niche of gamers > > but with the figures of FF7, and all the RPG's on the way, they must be > > more popular than I believed. Not really. True RPG's still are a niche product. FFVII had many things going for it: 1. Playstation has a HUGE userbase. Even selling to 50% of PSX owners is a huge success. 2. FFVII has loads of "glitzy" things that help sales. Odds are a large number of people who bought FFVII had no idea what kind of game it is or what an RPG is, but it looked cool - and everyone/every store was pushing it. While RPG's are gaining ground, here in the US they will never be mass market. But games like Zelda are ACTION RPG's. So they will sell better - but still not as many people are inclined to like them. But they are usually much more "gamer friendly" than true RPG's. > > They aren't as popular as sports titles or doom clones, but they can > bring you sales if you have a good game. In the case of FFVII, it was a > GREAT game which received a lot of advertising. FFVII was really the > first RPG to come to America with an extensive advertising campaign. > And with the advertising came the sales.. hopefully this game sets > precedent not only for other RPGs to come to America, but also for > developers to give RPGs the attention they deserve. I agree - but Amercians just don't have that much time for video games. While us hard corp. gamers play all the time, most Americans just play occasionally. That is why simple racing games, sports games, and fighting games do so well. You can jump in and play, and jump out. They dont take a lot of time or effort. > > Nintendo is really going to be missing out in 1998 as a load of RPGs > will be released for PlayStation (Alundra, FF Tactics, Saga Frontier, > Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Tactics Ogre, Lunar!!!!, Breath of Fire 3, > etc.). Heck, there will be more RPGs released for Saturn in America > than there will be for N64. That is especially sad seeing as there are > less than 10 Saturn games scheduled to be released this year. Nintendo and nintendo users won't be missing out on anything. Nintendo will make money, and N64 owners will get great games, and even RPG's. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:54:36 -0600 dvader wrote: > > I hope this is a joke, because if it isn't, this guy is gonna get so flamed Done that already. What an idiot. > (off the list of course). To make this N64 related, anyone played > fighter's destiny? Yeah, it rocks! Like most people say, the graphics and sound are nothing really special - but the gameplay is AWESOME. It actually takes thought and practice - but at the same time is not overly difficult! > > >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African > >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to > >show you what kind of people you represent. NOT. We represent VIDEO GAME PLAYERS dumb/\$$. > > > > > >Jabarii > >E-mail > >gwaldo69@juno.com > ] > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: [N64] Fighters Destiny...... Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:41:43 -0800 This is just my thoughts on "FD", i personly didnt like the game i am however a fighting game fan, heres why, this gmae had great animation and graphix, but it seamed way to simple gameplay to me you only have 2 buttons to atack with, and ther didnt seam to be a whole lot of moves, this is just me personly, I'm a big fam of TEkken 3 cause it lets u build your skills for any given charater. I will say however if your looking for a new fighter, this is one of the better fighters out for the N64, it really looks nice, and it has some pretty neat features, but its just not my kind of fighter. the 1 thing i didnt like was with some characters i could do 1 throw move and take all ther engery away with 1 move, if the other player didnt counter this, with is very easy to do, but is an easy point to win, if you keep at it. anyway it is a good game in its own right, but i like the old fashion way, not a point system, this game could of been great if it just gave you more controll over your fighters, this was the 1 thing i didnt like about the Virtua Fighter series was the 3 button controll. I like how Tekken lets you controll what ever limb u like, this seams more realistic to me, on a good note on Fighter's destiny, the evade button is a nice idea, but makes dodgeing very easy, this game will apeall to people who may have trouble playing the more dificult fighting games like tekken, this 1 is an easy 1 to pick up and play. Overall score : a solid 7 and half Dregan .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dweezle Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 04 Feb 1998 01:04:57 -0500 Come on! Paleeze! That is sad that you have to turn a disagreement into a racial issue. If anyone is being biast here, its you. Get over yourselfand play your N64 with united pride! Ahh Nintendo... Jabarii Z Ruamiel wrote: > I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African > American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to > show you what kind of people you represent. > > Jabarii > E-mail > gwaldo69@juno.com > > On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:29:25 -0800 "Dregan" writes: > > > >Russ Lapenna wrote: > >> > >> >There is nothing to do in Mario 64 after you beat it, > >> >i finshed the game with all 120 stars in 3 days, no sleep of > >course. > >> >Then i looked for any secrets to be found for 2 months, then went > >> >through it again. The only thing i know that you can do is the > >castle > >> >roof glitch were you fall trough the roof and land inside the > >castle. > >> >And there is no 2 player or lugie in mario 64 ether, it isnt going > >to > >> >happen, so quit dreaming already ! > >> > >> You are wrong here. One thing I do know of is that if you go > >> back and race the penguin he is much bigger, also some other things > >> were mentioned on this list that I'm trying to get people to tell > >me > >> about. I didn't know about the falling through the roof thing, why > >> didn't you post that to my original message. > >> > >> Russ > > > >How do you fall through the roof?? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >By the way russ didnt write this i did (Dregan) > >To fall the roof, first use the cannon to get on the castle, get your > >flight cap, triple jump to the 2nd level from the very top peak, then > >you must run up straight up the side, i cant rember witch side, but > >thers only 4 sides, if you fall trough, its real glitchy, the only > >way to get out is to do a back flip. > >Sam > >Nurgatomic Dustbin > >www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >.... > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:37:50 -0500 >Sorry asshole, but the manager at my local software has been my best >friend since we were kids, he doesnt blow smoke up my ass, he's >always let me in on news that isnt pose to get out, i regret i ever >told you know. and just to let you know iv played zelda 64 already, >but did make 1 mistake though, it wont be released here till june or >july, for a fact. thank you very much. >Dregan You are making the website you work for look bad. A quick jaunt over to www.therage.com and www.ncsx.com reveals no Zelda on sale at therage...and no Zelda on sale at www.ncsx.com. Both sides are import dealers...even further if we swing by www.nintendojo.com and check their release list which shows an April ?? release date AND checking www.ign64.com shows a TBA Q2 1998 release. But that's not the best part.....the best part is that the Gamer's Summit just ended in Japan recently (end of January), and guess what was shown....yup Zelda 64...BUT it was shown still running on the development kit..so please tell us how you've already played the game....try to do this without putting your foot even further in your mouth. ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] RE 2 = YS Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:40:06 -0500 >People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should >check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very >easy. And how long did it take YOU to complete all 4 missions set on Normal? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Fighters Destiny...... Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:45:42 -0500 >animation and graphix, but it seamed way to simple gameplay to me >you only have 2 buttons to atack with, and ther didnt seam to be a Do you do this stuff really to make yourself look bad? FD may have some things going against it...but simple gameplay is NOT one of them. >whole lot of moves, this is just me personly, I'm a big fam of TEkken >3 cause it lets u build your skills for any given charater. Not alot of moves...that's funny. As for Tekken 3 letting you build your skills WHAT in all that is holy are you talking about? >but i like the old fashion way, not a point system, this game could >of been great if it just gave you more controll over your fighters, >this was the 1 thing i didnt like about the Virtua Fighter series was >the 3 button controll. I like how Tekken lets you controll what ever >limb u like, this seams more realistic to me, on a good note on >Fighter's destiny, the evade button is a nice idea, >but makes dodgeing very easy, this game will apeall >to people who may have trouble playing the more dificult fighting >games like tekken, this 1 is an easy 1 to pick up and play. I'm You don't normally do reviews for your website do you? If so I'll make it a point not to read them EVER. To say that the Tekken fighting engine is more complex than the VF engine shows you have NO grasp of the nuances of the VF engine. And as for evading? You can evade and/or counter in both Tekken 3 and VF 3. Your point? ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeffery D Thomas" Subject: [N64] Controllers Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:55:45 +0000 Any advice on taking care of the controllers? They're getting sticky and loose and making it darn tough to win anything in DKR. Thanks, Jeff T. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: [N64] Controllers Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:59:07 GMT ->Any advice on taking care of the controllers? They're ->getting sticky and loose and making it darn tough to win ->anything in DKR. Yea, and my Z trigger is getting less sensative. Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:41:52 GMT ->>People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should ->>check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very ->>easy. -> -> ->And how long did it take YOU to complete all 4 missions set on Normal? Interesting point tho. apart from Mario64 and GE most of the 64 games have been quite short. look at MRC, even with the hidden cars/backwards tracks it still didn't take long to finish, TGR is almost the same the only difference being the season/whether angle. My only hope of a big involving game in the (near) future is Banjo, followed by Zelda I'spose (when ever). Has any1 else noticed this or is it me just moaning? Can anyone recommend a game thats available now that I can get (IMHO) calue for money from? or will I be forced to go the PSX/FFVII route? Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Mander Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:47:13 +0000 FF7 isn't that long really... They claim 100 hours but most of that time involves watching storylines actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! GE must be nearer 1000hrs if you want to complete it on all levels. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp) Subject: [N64] GE007 - A couple questions for you 007 Agents. Date: 04 Feb 1998 10:49 EST Comrades! I have a coupla questions regarding Goldeneye 007 1) Are the cheats that you get on a certain level, only available for play on that same level? For example, the DK big head cheat which can be attained from beating the runway on Agent mode, can you ever use the DK cheat on Secret or 00 Mode? How about after you have beaten all the levels? 2) Whenever I use a cheat, I can only access the missions that I have COMPLETED for that level. For example, I have successfully completed the 10th mission. Without a cheat I can have access to all levels up to the 11th mission. However using a cheat, it will only let me have access up to the 10th mission. Is that the way its suppose to work. 3) When I successfully complete a mission using a cheat, the game never advances to the next mission like it does when I play without a cheat. Is that the way its suppose to work? Thanks in Advance to all that Reply! Kevin [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:05:28 GMT ->FF7 isn't that long really... ->They claim 100 hours but most of that time involves watching storylines ->actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! ->GE must be nearer 1000hrs if you want to complete it on all levels. Yes that makes sense from what I've seen of it, tho stories can make a game, aslong as you don't have to keep rewatching the same bits :/. I am playing through GE but some levels can be so frustrating in a , you just get to the end, oops bugger me, run through the corridor with a camera in that you have to approach from the correct way to see after spending ages clearing the level, have to start again, maybe tomorrow, off. kind of a way. Q. still stands, can anyone recommend a game for me or have N buggered up their release schedule and left us a dead spot after Christmas. All the arguments about people having no disposable income at this time of year I know, I also know that I have enough cash to buy a good game to save me spending it all down the boozer. Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: Re: [N64] GE007 - A couple questions for you 007 Agents. Date: 04 Feb 1998 11:07:13 -0500 Here are the answers to your questions. When you earn a cheat for a particular level that cheat can be used for any levels of play that you have earned in the game. For example, if you have earned the DK mode and completed the Agent level of play, you can use the DK mode cheat for the agent level but not for the Secret Mode (unless of course you have passed that level on the Secret mode as well). This cheat even works on the 007 mode where you can set your own settings. As for your other question, you can only use a cheat for levels that you have already completed. So you can't use DK mode to try and beat the Jungle level if you have'nt yet been able to beat the jungle level itself. While you may think that this sucks (as I initially did) it actually adds to the quality of gameplay. The best advice I can give you is to savor how long it takes to actually beat Goldeneye. It will take awhile but the game gets better and more fun the more you play it. Enjoy. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: Re: [N64] GE007 - A couple questions for you 007 Agents. Date: 04 Feb 1998 11:08:43 -0500 Unless you have played a demo of Zelda 64 at Nintendo World last year, which I highly doubt, there is no way that you have already played Zelda 64. You are so full of it. Why don't you just admit that you are wrong instead of attacking the people that suggest that you don't have all of the facts. By the way, I don't care who you friend is and what he/she thinks that they know. Zelda is not out now and won't be out in the US until at least late summer. You are simply an uninformed individual that spoke their mind before they thought about what they were saying. That is it. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: [N64] Minorities on the list... Date: 04 Feb 1998 08:44:04 PST This guy's post doesn't sound right at all. First of all, what does race have to do video games ? Why would anyone need to know what race you are on this mailing list ? More importantly, why haven't you taken this issue to the person in charge of this list ? He would be the one to settle this issue with, if such an issue exists at all. I'm african-american too, but I've been posting to this list for a long time now, and haven't come across any notion of racism in any post. Also, no one has even asked me about my race. Also, why wouldn't I tell anyone that I'm african american ? That's who I am, and the way I was born. I would never deny my race just so that I could be a part of some trival discussion about video games. Before you post a reply, I suggest you discuss this situation with the list owner. Then, if you think a problem exists ( which I'm pretty sure it doesn't ) THEN let the list members know. Greg or Tyler - would you tell us the real reason this guy can't post ? Hoping this thread doesn't go to far.... Elliot eljam@hotmail.com >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to >show you what kind of people you represent. > > >Jabarii >E-mail >gwaldo69@juno.com _____________________________________________________ E. Jefferson eljam@hotmail.com "He who laughs last..... thinks slowest." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 11:55:22 -0500 >FF7 isn't that long really... >They claim 100 hours but most of that time involves watching storylines >actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! >GE must be nearer 1000hrs if you want to complete it on all levels. I believe the claim of 100 hours is possibly more valid depending on how deeply you get involved in the mini-games, side-quests, chocobo breeding, etc. ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kleinemans Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:26:46 +0100 >You are making the website you work for look bad. A quick jaunt over to >www.therage.com and www.ncsx.com reveals no Zelda on sale at therage...and >no Zelda on sale at www.ncsx.com. Both sides are import dealers...even >further if we swing by www.nintendojo.com and check their release list which >shows an April ?? release date AND checking www.ign64.com shows a TBA Q2 >1998 release. But that's not the best part.....the best part is that the >Gamer's Summit just ended in Japan recently (end of January), and guess what >was shown....yup Zelda 64...BUT it was shown still running on the >development kit..so please tell us how you've already played the game....try >to do this without putting your foot even further in your mouth. Nooooh, I didn't said that zelda allready got released, that was Dregan!!! And he is NOT working for Game Nation, ok??? I was the asshole that replyed to him... So please forget all the negative feelings towards gamenation and check us out when we go up, and that's gonna be soon kids. kleinemans ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation, will be around somewhere soon | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| | | | Prehistoric bloke: "Tough luck kid..." | | Kleinemans: BANG! | | | |_____________________________________________________________________| [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re: [N64] RE 2 = YS Date: 04 Feb 1998 11:53:37 +0000 raider@the-link.net,Internet writes: >People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should >check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very >easy. While RE2 may be short the replay value makes up for it big time. You have 4 different scenarios to go through (2 for each of the main characters) plus 2 more hidden character scenarios. Plus trying to go through the game in a certain amount of time to get the special weapons. Later, Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: siemon Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 19:37:08 +0100 >>You are making the website you work for look bad. A quick jaunt over to >>www.therage.com and www.ncsx.com reveals no Zelda on sale at therage...and >>no Zelda on sale at www.ncsx.com. Both sides are import dealers...even >>further if we swing by www.nintendojo.com and check their release list which >>shows an April ?? release date AND checking www.ign64.com shows a TBA Q2 >>1998 release. But that's not the best part.....the best part is that the >>Gamer's Summit just ended in Japan recently (end of January), and guess what >>was shown....yup Zelda 64...BUT it was shown still running on the >>development kit..so please tell us how you've already played the game....try >>to do this without putting your foot even further in your mouth. > >Nooooh, I didn't said that zelda allready got released, that was Dregan!!! >And he is NOT working for Game Nation, ok??? >I was the asshole that replyed to him... >So please forget all the negative feelings towards gamenation and check us >out when we go up, and that's gonna be soon kids. > >kleinemans See what happens if people start saying they playedf unreleased games or if they come saying the DD wont be released ourside Japan, misunderstnadings will directly follow. So please let people like Dregan shut the f*ck up (sorry, but this really pisses me off) and avoid any misunderswtandings. Don't go and accuse Kleinemans, he was the first one who told Dregan he was making things up, and now he gets "flamed" because he said he played the game .....??? He didn't say anything about that at all! Well, sorry for me reacting a little over reacted but people like Dregad should think before they spread rumors like this. And to make things up to ya'll, Game Nation will be opened tomorrow, we'll post an official opening mail tomorrow, so ... look forward to it!!! yours sincerly, -Siemon _______________________________________________________________________ Siemon Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl A new N64 site, soon to come ICQ= 5750532 "Move slowly, tread lightly" -Sign in Mario 64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] get over it Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:24:27 -0500 At 07:06 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to >show you what kind of people you represent. Yep, we all go iron our sheets after posting to the list. You're a crackhead if you believe race has anything to do with the list. Honestly, that's just ludicrous. We have people from all over the world here...and I'm pretty sure everyone here is somewhat open-minded. Actually, this is the first time I've heard of any racial discrepancies here. And actually, I think it's the 1st time I've actually seen you post. ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] Controllers Date: 04 Feb 1998 02:19:54 -0500 clean them after use i use an alcohol prep pad the analog stick, beneath it can grind up into a powder but this never forms if you wipe it down -----Original Message----- >Any advice on taking care of the controllers? They're >getting sticky and loose and making it darn tough to win >anything in DKR. > >Thanks, >Jeff T. > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] RE 2 = YS Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:36:11 -0500 At 09:33 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should >check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very >easy. Yea. It's like Parappa...great but short. It's a fun ride, tho. :) Right now I'm playing FF Tactics...good God, that's wonderful! I can hardly contain myself until YS comes! Yea! ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:42:16 -0500 At 03:47 PM 2/4/98 +0000, you wrote: >FF7 isn't that long really... >They claim 100 hours but most of that time involves watching storylines >actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! >GE must be nearer 1000hrs if you want to complete it on all levels. Do you know what you're talking about? The FMV in the game is 30 minutes at MOST. I spent 49 hours playin', and the clock doesn't count the movies...who told you 100 hours? How could anyone do that? GE would last about 15 hours, because you don't add in all the times you have to replay a level. :) ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:53:11 -0500 >See what happens if people start saying they playedf unreleased games or if >they come saying the DD wont be released ourside Japan, misunderstnadings >will directly follow. So please let people like Dregan shut the f*ck >up (sorry, but this really pisses me off) and avoid any misunderswtandings. >Don't go and accuse Kleinemans, he was the first one who told Dregan he was >making things up, and now he gets "flamed" because he said he played the >game .....??? He didn't say anything about that at all! > >Well, sorry for me reacting a little over reacted but people like Dregad >should think before they spread rumors like this. > >And to make things up to ya'll, Game Nation will be opened tomorrow, we'll >post an official opening mail tomorrow, so ... look forward to it!!! Sieman blow me. My email software seems to be cutting off the top of my post were I showed that I was responding to Dregan. Save the kiddy swearing for someone who cares. ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tvsnow@usa.net (Tyler V Snow) Subject: [N64] EXTREMELY off-topic post.. Date: 04 Feb 1998 12:58:06 -0600 >This guy's post doesn't sound right at all. First of all, what does >race have to do video games ? Why would anyone need to know what race >you are on this mailing list ? > >More importantly, why haven't you taken this issue to the person in >charge of this list ? He would be the one to settle this issue with, if >such an issue exists at all. I'm african-american too, but I've been >posting to this list for a long time now, and haven't come across any >notion of racism in any post. Also, no one has even asked me about my >race. > >Also, why wouldn't I tell anyone that I'm african american ? That's who >I am, and the way I was born. I would never deny my race just so that I >could be a part of some trival discussion about video games. > >Before you post a reply, I suggest you discuss this situation with the >list owner. Then, if you think a problem exists ( which I'm pretty sure >it doesn't ) THEN let the list members know. > >Greg or Tyler - would you tell us the real reason this guy can't post ? > >Hoping this thread doesn't go to far.... I am NOT racist (I would lose all respect for anyone that would even so much as SUGGEST that I am). He was removed from the list for posting several off-topic, bandwidth-wasting, no-value messages. After several threats of legal action (ranging from "Wrongful termination," "harasment [sic]," "criminal impersonation," and "E-mail harrassment,"--he did use all these terms) I decided it was no longer worth the trouble of allowing him back on the list. 80-90% of all his messages (to the list) were garbage posts that were of no value to anyone. If anyone believed him about me being racist, I will stress that it is 100% not true. It was never to my knowledge that he WAS african american. If I did know, it certainly wouldn't have made any difference. Waldo is only stirring up controversy among the list members to get back at me. I am sure "gwaldo69@juno.com" will try to make further claims in the near future. Please do your best to ignore him and his claims. Further discussion of this topic should be directed at me, not the list. Thank you. -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: [N64] Let's Cut This Right At the N*ts Before It Gets Out of Hand. Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:22:12 -0500 Ok, let's try this one more time. My follow-up post was directed to Dregan. My email software seems to have the bad habit of chopping off the top portion which showed that was who I was responding to. I did mistakely see the Game Nation tagline in the post and did not realize he is not an employee of Game Nation. My mistake and I offer my apologies....good for you he apparently is a fool. I don't take to being swore at by anyone. I've been around too long and done too much to let that kinda thing go now. Let it end here. Hopefully the point has been made now that it's not too smart to make outlandish claims, when so many of the people on this list generally keep their "ears to the street". Darien Allen N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Mario special jump Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:14:06 EST Russ~ After you talk to Yoshi, do a triple jump. ~Dash [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: siemon Subject: Re: [N64] Let's Cut This Right At the N*ts Before It Gets Out Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:56:16 +0100 >Ok, let's try this one more time. My follow-up post was directed to Dregan. >My email software seems to have the bad habit of chopping off the top >portion which showed that was who I was responding to. I did mistakely see >the Game Nation tagline in the post and did not realize he is not an >employee of Game Nation. My mistake and I offer my apologies....good for >you he apparently is a fool. > >I don't take to being swore at by anyone. I've been around too long and >done too much to let that kinda thing go now. Let it end here. Hopefully >the point has been made now that it's not too smart to make outlandish >claims, when so many of the people on this list generally keep their "ears >to the street". OK, and I want to appologize for my perhaps a little over reacted reaction, I didn't meant to react like that but I just didn't want Game Nation to get a bad name even before it was opened, and because of whom? A guy who is saying he played Zelda 64... No hard feelings with me Darien, ok? I've noticied misunderstandings happening more and more on the list, people replying to people, arguing with someone and "attacking" him on things, which he never has said! Misunderstandings happen more and more, and I think we should all be a little more cautious with replies and such. I think everyone should get his or her own sig around here, so we'll all know whom where dealing with. my regards, -Siemon (Still a happy Game Nation staff member....) _______________________________________________________________________ Siemon Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl A new N64 site, soon to come ICQ= 5750532 "Move slowly, tread lightly" -Sign in Mario 64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] Playing GE on easy Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:20:43 -0600 Now if you play GE on easy(especially if you have beaten it at special+) it takes under an hour :) Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:39:57 -0600 >From: Adrian Mander > >>FF7 isn't that long really... >>They claim 100 hours First of all, who claims this? >but most of that time involves watching storylines >>actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! I'm sorry, but I don't buy that. I feel sorry for anyone that breezes through the game in 30 or even 40 hours. Everyone that I know has gotten at LEAST 80 hours on their games, with one person even being at the 99:59 max point. A time of 30-40 hours is a good indication of how much was missed in the game. Even if you do deprive yourself of a great game and only get "30-40 hours" in, you must have no life to play through the whole thing in a "few days".... -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:47:38 +0000 tvsnow@usa.net,Internet writes: >I'm sorry, but I don't buy that. I feel sorry for anyone that breezes >through the game in 30 or even 40 hours. Everyone that I know has gotte= n >at LEAST 80 hours on their games, with one person even being at the 99:5= 9 >max point. A time of 30-40 hours is a good indication of how much was >missed in the game. Even if you do deprive yourself of a great game and >only get "30-40 hours" in, you must have no life to play through the who= le >thing in a "few days".... > >-Tyler V. Snow It seemed like it took 30 - 40 hours just to breed those dang chocobos. ;= =96) Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: [N64] Minorities on the list... -Reply Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:09:05 -0700 >>> "E. Jefferson" 02/04/98 09:44am >>> > > Greg or Tyler - would you tell us the real reason this guy can't post ? Bandwidth-wasting posts. As simple as that. Never knew he was AA until the following post was made. Wouldn't have mattered if I did. Greg >I have been denied the right to post on this list because I am an African >American. If you are African American don't tell anyone. This goes to >show you what kind of people you represent. > > >Jabarii >E-mail >gwaldo69@juno.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:18:24 -0800 >>You are making the website you work for look bad. A quick jaunt over to >>www.therage.com and www.ncsx.com reveals no Zelda on sale at therage...and >>no Zelda on sale at www.ncsx.com. Both sides are import dealers...even >>further if we swing by www.nintendojo.com and check their release list which >>shows an April ?? release date AND checking www.ign64.com shows a TBA Q2 >>1998 release. But that's not the best part.....the best part is that the >>Gamer's Summit just ended in Japan recently (end of January), and guess what >>was shown....yup Zelda 64...BUT it was shown still running on the >>development kit..so please tell us how you've already played the game....try >>to do this without putting your foot even further in your mouth. Sure ill be glad to tell you how iv played Zelda 64, you see dumbass there was this gaming show called Spaceworld 97, and there they had an 70% completed copy of zelda 64, it was set up so you could only play portions of the game, they were set up in tours, which was seletable on the main menue, 3 in all, if you dont believe me read EGM, issue #103, and you will see what im talking about, it also says that the japanese release will be in the last week of april, and a stateside release of june or july. Hello, and thank you very much. Dick head Dregan - >Nooooh, I didn't said that zelda allready got released, that was Dregan!!! >And he is NOT working for Game Nation, ok??? >I was the asshole that replyed to him... >So please forget all the negative feelings towards gamenation and check us >out when we go up, and that's gonna be soon kids. > >kleinemans See what happens if people start saying they playedf unreleased games or if they come saying the DD wont be released ourside Japan, misunderstnadings will directly follow. So please let people like Dregan shut the f*ck up (sorry, but this really pisses me off) and avoid any misunderswtandings. Don't go and accuse Kleinemans, he was the first one who told Dregan he was making things up, and now he gets "flamed" because he said he played the game .....??? He didn't say anything about that at all! Well, sorry for me reacting a little over reacted but people like Dregad should think before they spread rumors like this. And to make things up to ya'll, Game Nation will be opened tomorrow, we'll post an official opening mail tomorrow, so ... look forward to it!!! yours sincerly, -Siemon ______________________________________________________________________ _ SiemonHead HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nlA new N64 site, soon to come ICQ= 5750532 "Move slowly, tread lightly" -Sign in Mario 64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:31:27 +0000 dregan@goplay.com,Internet writes: >Sure ill be glad to tell you how iv played Zelda 64, you see dumbass >there was this gaming show called Spaceworld 97, and there they had=20 >an 70% completed copy of zelda 64, it was set up so you could only=20 >play portions of the game, they were set up in tours, which >was seletable on the main menue, 3 in all, if you dont believe me=20 >read EGM, issue #103, and you will see what im talking about, it also=20 >says that the japanese release will be in the last week of april, and=20 >a stateside release of june or july. Hello, and thank you very much.=20 >Dick head >Dregan I thought the whole point behind the mailing list was to have INTELIGENT conversations and to avoid this kind of newsgroup nonsense. I guess I was wrong. Oh well... you can=92t avoid all of the idiots. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:31:27 +0000 dregan@goplay.com,Internet writes: >Sure ill be glad to tell you how iv played Zelda 64, you see dumbass >there was this gaming show called Spaceworld 97, and there they had=20 >an 70% completed copy of zelda 64, it was set up so you could only=20 >play portions of the game, they were set up in tours, which >was seletable on the main menue, 3 in all, if you dont believe me=20 >read EGM, issue #103, and you will see what im talking about, it also=20 >says that the japanese release will be in the last week of april, and=20 >a stateside release of june or july. Hello, and thank you very much.=20 >Dick head >Dregan I thought the whole point behind the mailing list was to have INTELIGENT conversations and to avoid this kind of newsgroup nonsense. I guess I was wrong. Oh well... you can=92t avoid all of the idiots. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:39:40 -0800 dregan@goplay.com,Internet writes: >Sure ill be glad to tell you how iv played Zelda 64, you see dumbass >there was this gaming show called Spaceworld 97, and there they had >an 70% completed copy of zelda 64, it was set up so you could only >play portions of the game, they were set up in tours, which >was seletable on the main menue, 3 in all, if you dont believe me >read EGM, issue #103, and you will see what im talking about, it also >says that the japanese release will be in the last week of april, and >a stateside release of june or july. Hello, and thank you very much. >Dick head >Dregan I thought the whole point behind the mailing list was to have INTELIGENT conversations and to avoid this kind of newsgroup nonsense. I guess I was wrong. Oh well... you cant avoid all of the idiots. Hey dont point the finger at me, i just simpley made a post, then some guy comes back and calls me an idiot and the iv got my foot in my mouth. he started it, he just dosent want to believe that somebody else could actually play a game before he does, i think he's just jealous my self, and 1 other thing, when some 1 starts shit with me first i get reall defensive, other wise im an easy going fellow. sory if my post cause ant trouble here, maybe i shouldnt share sinceative info with you people. Dregan [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 17:33:52 -0500 >I thought the whole point behind the mailing list was to have INTELIGENT >conversations and to avoid this kind of newsgroup nonsense. >I guess I was wrong. Oh well... you can=92t avoid all of the idiots. Yes-- the past month or two, this list has been degenerating into a newsgroup-like group. :( Very sad, as normally this is a good place for exchange of ideas among INTELLIGENT game players, like you and I. Derek Kalweit = =20 Email: dkalweit@eznet.net =20 Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ =20 NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp) Subject: [N64] N64 Graphics question Date: 04 Feb 1998 17:50 EST Comrades!, I have a question and what better place to ask than here right. Right! So here goes... Please excuse my ignorance but when discussing the graphics of video games, people often reference the polygons. Is this to say that characters in a game such as GE007 are made up of hundreds of polygons that give them a better than usual realistic look. If so what are the alternatives to polygons ? What was used in the past? What was used on the Atari 2600? Thanks in Advance to all who take the time to Reply! Kevin [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... -Reply Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:56:20 -0700 This thread is officially over. Greg >>> Derek Kalweit 02/04/98 03:33pm >>> >I thought the whole point behind the mailing list was to have INTELIGENT >conversations and to avoid this kind of newsgroup nonsense. >I guess I was wrong. Oh well... you can=C6t avoid all of the idiots. Yes-- the past month or two, this list has been degenerating into a newsgroup-like group. :( Very sad, as normally this is a good place for exchange of ideas among INTELLIGENT game players, like you and I. Derek Kalweit = =20 Email: dkalweit=40eznet.net =20 Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/=7Edkalweit/ =20 NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/=7Edkalweit/ =5B To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message =22unsubscribe n64=22 = =5D =5B (without the quotes) to majordomo=40xmission.com =5D [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Graphics question Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:24:36 -0500 >Please excuse my ignorance but when discussing the graphics >of video games, people often reference the polygons. Is this >to say that characters in a game such as GE007 are made up of >hundreds of polygons that give them a better than usual realistic >look. If so what are the alternatives to polygons ? What was >used in the past? What was used on the Atari 2600? Yea, GE uses polys. Polygons are the "blocks" used in most games to make a 3d effect. The blocks are covered in textures (pictures) to add the colors, patterns, and facial features. As to older games, they often used sprites, which are prerendered images. They still use sprites, like in Yoshi's Story and Mischief Makers. There are tons of others, but I don't feel like typin' 'em out. Both polygons and sprites can be great tools, if used correctly. Look at Hexen. They screwed up there! :) ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp) Subject: [N64] Totally off topic question Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:40 EST Comrades, I have a totally off-topic question. Someone on this mailing list had a quote in their signature that I have started to see/hear/notice quite often since I first read it in their signature. If anyone knows the original origin of this quote, please let me know. 'They killed Kenny. You Bastards!' However, to appease any tight @$$e$, I'll also ask an N64 related question. In your opinion, whats the hardest mission in GE007 besides Aztec, and Egyptian. Thanks [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: [N64] ZELDA DATES Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:46:24 -0500 Hello All! I have been observing this Zelda 64 conversation that started yesterday I think. "Dregan" explained that he had played Zelda 64 at Nintendo's Space World. How can we prove wheather he's lieing or not on the subject? We cannot. So I think we should stop arguing about that immeaditely. But their is one point I would like to make. "Dregan" said, and I quote, "Zelda 64 will ship in Early april....". Well, I beg to differ on that. On a highly respectable place for release dates, Guide 64, (http://members.aol.com/CapScott) the date for Zelda 64 is Q4 98....which is definitely NOT April. And on IGN64.com, which gets its dates from the companys themselves, it says Q3 98...which is again NOT April. So if you are speaking about the American release of Zelda 64 being April, I'm afraid you are wrong. ----- Cutch wesday@saa.net Assistant Webmaster: http://www.kingdom64.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: [N64] Controllers Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:58:09 -0700 You wrote: > clean them after use > i use an alcohol prep pad > the analog stick, beneath it can grind up into a powder > but this never forms if you wipe it down I think that powder is placed there by Nintendo as a "lubricant" to cut down on the friction between the controller "ball" and the white plastic cup thing. I noticed my newer controller works much smoother than my older ones. SRN - stephen.n@shaw.wave.ca - http://shaw.wave.ca/~enorum/n64web/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: [N64] Staying on topic. Date: 04 Feb 1998 06:52:16 -0500 Uh, try to stay on topic people. I know how much you love to talk about Resident Evil 2, or racists, but this is an N64 list. RE2 is not on the N64, and there is no game that stars racists, to my belief. What is even worse is that some people put a subject like, "Off-Topic." That I do not think is good enough. If it is off topic do not post it, no excuse, you are no more special than the other person. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: [N64] Sprites and Polygons Date: 04 Feb 1998 06:54:06 -0500 before, sprites were used 2 dimentional images that moved, and could be animated now, there are more 3d games they use polygons actually, doom used sprite enemies, but was more 3d (not true 3d, but that is another story, confusing) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flash " Subject: Re: [N64] Totally off topic question Date: 04 Feb 1998 19:07:21 -0500 ok, to answer your question about the Oh my god they killed kenny... you bastards! thing, it was on my signature, but i recently changed it to the hands you see below. this quote orginated from the best damn cartoon i have ever seen. Southpark. if you care to know, Kenny dies in ever epsode, but the christmas one. if you have more questions or what ever, write to me off the list. ~Flash Kevin Mapp wrote: > Comrades, > > I have a totally off-topic question. Someone on this > mailing list had a quote in their signature that I > have started to see/hear/notice quite often since > I first read it in their signature. If anyone knows > the original origin of this quote, please let me know. > > 'They killed Kenny. You Bastards!' > > However, to appease any tight @$$e$, I'll also ask an > N64 related question. > > In your opinion, whats the hardest mission in GE007 > besides Aztec, and Egyptian. > > Thanks > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_|" Subject: [N64] Uh, an update! Date: 04 Feb 1998 19:11:40 -0500 Ok, I just may want to inform all of you's. If you have ever been to my site, I just moved, the url for the next couple days is http://gamecentral.simplenet.com/n64newshq after friday it will be http://surf.to/n64news thanks everyone! -- _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Graphics question Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:46:19 -0600 > Please excuse my ignorance but when discussing the graphics > of video games, people often reference the polygons. Is this > to say that characters in a game such as GE007 are made up of > hundreds of polygons that give them a better than usual realistic > look. If so what are the alternatives to polygons ? What was > used in the past? What was used on the Atari 2600? Well....one method they could use is fully-rendered sprites, like they used in Donkey Kong Country or the enemies in Doom 64. Although, I think polygons look MUCH better in some cases, and it allows for better freedom of movement. Ie...with sprites, you can only have so much movement to them, while polygons can use full blown animation for more realism. -Asha'man_X [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: [N64] Re2: Controllers Date: 04 Feb 1998 07:46:32 -0500 trust me that powder is formed from the friction between the stick and the base i have had to open my brother's controller to clean it out for him i clean my controller after use (obsessive with organization disorder...) and i never had problems ps both my shift keys and caps lock don't work -----Original Message----- >From: Stephen Norum > >You wrote: >> clean them after use >> i use an alcohol prep pad >> the analog stick, beneath it can grind up into a powder >> but this never forms if you wipe it down > > > I think that powder is placed there by Nintendo as a "lubricant" to cut >down on the friction between the controller "ball" and the white plastic >cup thing. I noticed my newer controller works much smoother than my >older ones. > > >SRN >- stephen.n@shaw.wave.ca >- http://shaw.wave.ca/~enorum/n64web/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halman Subject: Re: [N64] Games 2 short? Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:57:48 At 02:39 PM 2/4/98 -0600, you wrote: >>From: Adrian Mander >> >>>FF7 isn't that long really... >>>They claim 100 hours > >First of all, who claims this? > >>but most of that time involves watching storylines >>>actual gameplay must be as low as 30-40 hrs. That is a few days at most! > >I'm sorry, but I don't buy that. I feel sorry for anyone that breezes >through the game in 30 or even 40 hours. Everyone that I know has gotten >at LEAST 80 hours on their games, with one person even being at the 99:59 >max point. A time of 30-40 hours is a good indication of how much was >missed in the game. Even if you do deprive yourself of a great game and >only get "30-40 hours" in, you must have no life to play through the whole >thing in a "few days".... > >-Tyler V. Snow >tvsnow@usa.net > I beat FF7 in about 50 hours over a period of about a month and have done almost everything except completely leveling up my characters and beating the weapons. That might take me fifteen more hours, but I still find it kind of hard to believe you could spend 100 hours on it. It was actually the first RPG I had played ever and I didn't get a whole lot of help with it either, just talked to my friends for advice sometimes. It is a great game though, probably one of the best I have ever played. halman > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] RE 2 = YS Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:57:36 -0600 Darien Allen wrote: > > From: raider fan > > >People who complain about Yoshi's Story being too short or easy should > >check out RE2. While it is a great game, RE2 is very short, and very > >easy. > > And how long did it take YOU to complete all 4 missions set on Normal? Less than a week. > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GolfMade@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Totally off topic question Date: 04 Feb 1998 19:57:50 EST It comes from one of the funniest shows around, Southpark, Kenny dies in every episode (that I have seen) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: [N64] FFVII, Resident Evil 2, and Yoshi's Story.... Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:15:43 -0700 >It seemed like it took 30 - 40 hours just to breed those dang chocobos. ;= =96) LoL! Funny you should mention, that's the part I am still working on. :) Now, about that Resident Evil 2 --> Yoshi's Story comparison. I think the reason everyone is making such a big deal about Yoshi being short is because expectations were so high for the game. 95-100% of Nintendo Company Ltd (Japan)'s games have been (arguably) quality titles and I guess everyone was expecting the same of Yoshi. Unfortunately, it turns out the game was overly short and easy (from what I have read). On the other hand, nobody was expecting Resident Evil 2 to be a tremendously huge game, in fact the first one was pretty short. What they were expecting, however, was another adventure game with puzzles and frightful happenings. Capcom (arguably) gave us exactly what we were expecting (and a little more--four different quests and 2 or more difficultly levels will last any gamer over 20 hours). Really, though, we shouldn't compare apples to oranges. Resident Evil 2 is an excellent game in its own genre (adventure/horror, which is relatively new), easily the best example of the genre. On the other hand, a million side-scrolling platformers have come before Yoshi's Story. And from what I have read, Yoshi's Story only lasts a few hours, while a LOT of platformers have lasted me 10 and upwards of 20 hours (see DKC games). Basically most people were expecting the best the genre had ever seen; and while everyone agrees that the game is fun, it doesn't last near as long as we were expecting. As it is, I am excited to rent Yoshi's Story this end-February, early-March, but I really see no reason to buy it given the reviews I have read. -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: [N64] Regarding Fighter's Destiny Date: 04 Feb 1998 20:24:24 -0500 I know that I am going to get beaten up for saying this but I think that a major flaw in the N64 is its low polygon count. I just played Fighter's Destiny and although it plays pretty well, it is painfully obvious that more polygons were required. I am not saying that the graphics aren't good. I especially like the one scene with the American fighter. The way that the light hits the fighters is amazing. However, FD suffers from a lack of detail. For example, look at Tekken 2 or any of the other Namco fighters on the Playstation. Now I know that right about now you are saying, "this guy does not know what he is talking about. While the N64 has less polygon power than the PSX, the games are better because the polygons are of a better quality." This is both truth and falsity. I this because sometimes what a game needs is a high frame count. Look at VF2 for example. Although it ran on the Saturn it still boasted 60 fps. Don't get me wrong. I love Nintendo and the N64. I just wish that it had about double the polygons that it does now. I know that great games can be made on the system as it exists (just look at Goldeneye and the upcoming FFVII-killer Zelda 64). Still, more polygons would be better for everyone. What do you think??? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N64PCPSX@aol.com Subject: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 04 Feb 1998 20:27:12 EST Has there been a Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack made? If not, they should make one, since the music is very good. I'm sure it would sell very well too. But if there is one, does anyone know where I could purchase it...such as the Nintendo Power catalog? Peter [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: [N64] List problems Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:42:10 EST Tyler and Greg~ I have been noticing that recently ther has been a lot of cussing on the list, as well as unintelligent conversation. I would hope that you guys would do something about this. Sorry to do this, but, well, for example, look at this... <<<>>> All I'm saying is that there is a lot of people on the list who are not really making good discussion. Perhaps a little warning, and so on. Maybe each week you two could introduce a weekly topic, just to get the things moving in a nice direction. Sorry to be a whiner, but... ~Dash [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Totally off topic question Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:51:16 EST The quote was... "Oh my God! The killed Kenny! You B@$T@RD$" From ythe Comdery entral show, "South Park" [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 04 Feb 1998 19:58:15 -0600 >Has there been a Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack made? If not, they should make one, >since the music is very good. I'm sure it would sell very well too. In a Palace conference, Rare said that they are planning on making a soundtrack for the game, however nothing was concrete. I know I would buy it if they do make it. :) >But if there is one, does anyone know where I could purchase it...such as the >Nintendo Power catalog? Yeah, probably the NP catalog. I have seen Mario Kart and Starfox soundtracks in some stores, too, however the Starfox soundtrack wasn't worth the 2 bucks I spent on it... :) -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Dent Subject: [N64] Wild Choppers Translation Date: 04 Feb 1998 23:00:27 -0500 Does anyone have the translation of the instructions for this game. Or a FAQ? any help would be appreciated. kevin Dent [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: [N64] Regarding Fighter's Destiny Date: 04 Feb 1998 20:05:22 -0800 I know that I am going to get beaten up for saying this but I think that a major flaw in the N64 is its low polygon count. I just played Fighter's Destiny and although it plays pretty well, it is painfully obvious that more polygons were required. I am not saying that the graphics aren't good. I especially like the one scene with the American fighter. The way that the light hits the fighters is amazing. However, FD suffers from a lack of detail. For example, look at Tekken 2 or any of the other Namco fighters on the Playstation. Now I know that right about now you are saying, "this guy does not know what he is talking about. While the N64 has less polygon power than the PSX, the games are better because the polygons are of a better quality." This is both truth and falsity. I this because sometimes what a game needs is a high frame count. Look at VF2 for example. Although it ran on the Saturn it still boasted 60 fps. Don't get me wrong. I love Nintendo and the N64. I just wish that it had about double the polygons that it does now. I know that great games can be made on the system as it exists (just look at Goldeneye and the upcoming FFVII-killer Zelda 64). Still, more polygons would be better for everyone. What do you think??? ********************************************************************** You shouldnt wory to much dude, one thing is for sure is that nintendo is only runnig about 30% of its powwer right now ( i know im going to get called an idiot for this one, but oh well) and programers learn more every day, N64 is running around 100,000 poly's with all the features turned on, but if they ever turned them off it could do around 600,000, witch is double the PSX. what im trying to say is new games will get better as they are released, i wouldnt use FD as a good arueing point cause its made my a not so good 3rd parrty devopler anyhow, look at the saturn, VF1 compared to VF2, look at the improvements they did with that, or even Virtua cop compared to VC@. I can only guess, but Zelda 64 should be pushing alot of the systems powwer, maybe around 70% from what i could tell, it has a good polygon count from what iv seen. anyway you get the point. One more thing, ever notice how great Snes games started to look before it died, donkey country was almost 32ibit Dregan [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: [N64] N64 Graphics question Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:33:46 GMT ->Well....one method they could use is fully-rendered sprites, like they ->used in Donkey Kong Country or the enemies in Doom 64. Although, I ->think polygons look MUCH better in some cases, and it allows for better ->freedom of movement. Ie...with sprites, you can only have so much ->movement to them, while polygons can use full blown animation for more ->realism. Allows for better freedom of movement? full blown animation? This is meaningless in the context of defining what is a sprite and what is a polygon. A sprite 2d grid of pixels, so sprite gfx are pictures drawn on this 2d grid. Polygons are defined by different points which are linked with lines and filled in with colour(s) rather than being pre-drawn. An example of this is say a character in a game, using sprites the man would be drawn on a sprite, then may more sprites defind with him in different positions. The same as cartoon animation or a flick book. If the character was defined using polygons then he would be made up of many of them "joined" together. When the character animates then the points are moved and the lines and colour re-drawn. So you can have as much movement and animation as you like with sprites but you are limited by the amount of memory you can use. Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ihavabigfro@juno.com (Peter L Nielsen) Subject: [N64] Mario Wall Jumps Date: 05 Feb 1998 06:44:17 -0500 I ave just recently gone to ign64.com and downloaded a quicktime movie showing mario wall jumping onto the top of the castle. I tried it but i could never get onto the castle. Have any of you seen that movie? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ihavabigfro@juno.com (Peter L Nielsen) Subject: Re: [N64] GE007(Emeny rockets) Date: 05 Feb 1998 06:35:12 -0500 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:25:36 -0600 Michael Bauers writes: > >I was playing the jungle levewl with the enemy rockets cheat. I also >had a >few other cheats turned on, including turbo. paintball. 2xGL, and >magnum. I >was able to finish the level, but there was a glitch in the game. >Someone >Natalya got stuck at the very beginning of the level, and would not >follow >me. I still won, which is even more odd. Has anyone seen this? > >Michael Bauers >DGS > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > Yeah this has happened to me quite a few times, once without the cheat. Are you sure you wren't playing with the invisible cheat on because then natalya wouldn't go because she wpuldn't be able to see you _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: [N64] Off-Topic - Bouncing Mail AT&T Servers? Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:55:40 -0500 Hmm for some reason mail to me from this mailing list was bouncing at some point yesterday, which caused me to be dropped. Any other AT&T subscribers have this problem? What I miss yesterday, what I miss? ;) Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:08:47 +0000 Hey everyone.. I'm new to the list and was just wondering what N64 games everyone is most looking forward to? I can't wait for: 1080 Degrees Snowboarding, Banjo-Kazooie, Ken Griffey Baseball 64 and of course Zelda 64. Thanks. Zig (ICQ: 606350) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:18:11 -0500 >Hey dont point the finger at me, i just simpley made a post, then >some guy comes back and calls me an idiot and the iv got my foot in >my mouth. he started it, he just dosent want to believe that somebody >else could actually play a game before he does, i think he's just >jealous my self, and 1 other thing, when some 1 starts shit with me >first i get reall defensive, other wise im an easy going fellow. >sory if my post cause ant trouble here, maybe i shouldnt share >sinceative info with you people. >Dregan Without turning this into a ridiculous personal attack as you seem to want to do. I will simply say this. I could care less if you've played anything before me. My point being the information in your post. Zelda 64 being already on sale in Japan was WRONG. If you've been to Spaceworld and played a 70% copy...good for you, but that doesn't change the point that you still spread misinformation. You said nothing about going to Spaceworld. You tried to pass of your information as coming from a "manager-friend" that you grew up with. Now it's "I've been to Spaceworld" Regardless of whether that is the truth or not. You need to clearly state your ideas and information here. Did you think someone would NOT notice the fallacy statement that Zelda 64 was already released? You still haven't explained where you got that information from. As for you sharing information, it will be no one's loss if you do not. Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] FFVII, Resident Evil 2, and Yoshi's Story.... Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:22:04 -0500 >As it is, I am excited to rent Yoshi's Story this end-February, >early-March, but I really see no reason to buy it given the reviews I have >read. As I also have no interest in buying this title(or renting it actually), I'd be interested in your impressions when you rent it. I believe it has been reported that there is now the additional task of collecting letters(?) to make the game more difficult. Why was this left out of the original? Didn't a playtester say "Hey this game is too easy" Or was this feature planned all along, and the product simply rushed to market before it was ready to be implemented....comments? Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:26:51 +0000 zimmfam@redrose.net,Internet writes: > Hey everyone.. I'm new to the list and was just wondering what N64 >games everyone is most looking forward to? I can't wait for: 1080 Degrees >Snowboarding, Banjo-Kazooie, Ken Griffey Baseball 64 and of course Zelda >64. Thanks. I would have to add Castlevania 3-D and Hybrid Heaven to that list. Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave A Christianson" Subject: [N64] Replay value, etc. Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:06:39 -0600 While RE2 may be short the replay value makes up for it big time. You have 4 different scenarios to go through (2 for each of the main characters) plus 2 more hidden character scenarios. Plus trying to go through the game in a certain amount of time to get the special weapons. Dave) I think this is an interesting issue and something that is very hard to gauge. I've heard all sorts of comments like "I beat DKR in two days', or 'I got 120 stars in 1 week', etc etc. I say - so what! This persons perception of time, and this person's, and this persons, etc and mine are probably two very different things. Now, I wouldn't argue that if someone completely solved a game in 2 hrs, and did not have any fun doing it, then the game belongs in the bargain bin (or garbage). But lets say you completely solved DKR in two hours. How did you do it? Using the best character for each track? Did you race/beat TT on every track? Besides the multiplayer fun, there are multiple ways to beat this game (using only 1 character for every race, racing TT with every character, etc) If the GAMEPLAY is fun enough to warrant the repetition, then you could literally spend hundreds of hours beating every track with each individual character. See my point? Kinda like the games of old where you just did the same thing over and over to get a high score. Lemme know what you think. Dave C. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kideo@juno.com (Winston Chan) Subject: Re: [N64] Mario Wall Jumps Date: 05 Feb 1998 06:23:21 -0800 So that's how you do it. I downloaded it alright. I always thought you had to wall jump on the the castle wall, and then wall jump on the hill. I haven't tried it though. Looks easy. winston Chan On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:44:17 -0500 ihavabigfro@juno.com (Peter L Nielsen) writes: >I ave just recently gone to ign64.com and downloaded a quicktime movie >showing mario wall jumping onto the top of the castle. I tried it but >i could never get onto the castle. Have any of you seen that movie? >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno >at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send >the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to >majordomo@xmission.com ] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Mander Subject: Re: [N64] Mario Wall Jumps Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:11:17 +0000 shall we tell the list how you actually do it or does everyone have to download the movie? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] poygons vs the atari 2600 Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:50:35 -0600 3D video games use polygons. All images are composed using what is called a wire map. The general rule is that the more polygons that are used, the more detailed the character/image is. However, like in GE, a very detailed image can be a pasted onto a polygon. The faces in goldeneye are an example. The 2600 may have used sprites to draw its spaceships/tanks etc. A sprite is simply a color bitmap. The sprite is made up of pixels(picture elements,) and each pixel has a color to it. There are two kinds of sprites. Harware sprites, where an actual dedicated part of the harware does the work of moving the sprite around and doing hit detection, and software sprites, where the program handles everything. You can of course write a game on any system(even the N64) using neither sprites or polygons. The resultant game is always called pong. Or conan the barbararian(never mind kids, you are too young.) Seriously though, you really can write computer games just by drawing every pixel on the screen, and then redrawing what has moved, and so on. But todays computer systems, even some PC's, now have hardware support for the mundane tasks of moving polygons or sprites around on the screen. Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] trivia Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:52:37 -0600 Which was the first home computer with sprite registers? Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave A Christianson" Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:32:12 -0600 Hey everyone.. I'm new to the list and was just wondering what N64 games everyone is most looking forward to? I can't wait for: 1080 Degrees Snowboarding, Banjo-Kazooie, Ken Griffey Baseball 64 and of course Zelda 64. Thanks. I wish they'd start working on Metroid for N64/ release some info on it. This is my most favorite series on Nintendo. I like it better than Zelda. I don't know if first person, Mario 64 style, or sidescroller would be good. I guess 1st person wouldn't be that great cuz you'd miss seeing Samus in action, but they could really do some wonders with the 1st person style. Mario style or 2d would be good. Actually I'd be happy with either way (maybe they could have it interchangable like SOTE). You would think they'd be giving us some info. Maybe it'll be the turn of the millenium Xmas title. Dave C. Does N64 have a mouse peripheral coming? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: [N64] poygons vs the atari 2600 Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:06:59 GMT ->really can write computer games just by drawing every pixel on the screen, ->and then redrawing what has moved, and so on Well thats how it will always work, as you say the only difference is that its more hardware controlled now, old computers (spectrum/c64 etc onwards) have been capable of displaying and manipulating polygons, they just did it slower. Its not a case of polygons being an innovation of todays systems. ->Yes there is an N64 mouse planned. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 11:59:35 +0000 > From: "Dave A Christianson" > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:32:12 -0600 > Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games > Reply-to: n64@lists.xmission.com > I wish they'd start working on Metroid for N64/ release some info on it. > This is my most favorite series on Nintendo. I like it better than Zelda. > I don't know if first person, Mario 64 style, or sidescroller would be > good. I guess 1st person wouldn't be that great cuz you'd miss seeing > Samus in action, but they could really do some wonders with the 1st person > style. Mario style or 2d would be good. Actually I'd be happy with either > way (maybe they could have it interchangable like SOTE). > You would think they'd be giving us some info. Maybe it'll be the turn of > the millenium Xmas title. > > Dave C. > > Does N64 have a mouse peripheral coming? > > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > I think the reason their not making it is cuz the series was never really that popular in Japan. But ya never know.. That would be cool if they would start making it. Yeah, their making a mouse for it. It was shown at Space World along with a whole bunch of other cool stuff. I think that voice recognition thing is gonna rule! Later.. Zig (ICQ: 606350) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dregan" Subject: Re: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:33:15 -0800 >Hey dont point the finger at me, i just simpley made a post, then >some guy comes back and calls me an idiot and the iv got my foot in >my mouth. he started it, he just dosent want to believe that somebody >else could actually play a game before he does, i think he's just >jealous my self, and 1 other thing, when some 1 starts shit with me >first i get reall defensive, other wise im an easy going fellow. >sory if my post cause ant trouble here, maybe i shouldnt share >sinceative info with you people. >Dregan Without turning this into a ridiculous personal attack as you seem to want to do. I will simply say this. I could care less if you've played anything before me. My point being the information in your post. Zelda 64 being already on sale in Japan was WRONG. If you've been to Spaceworld and played a 70% copy...good for you, but that doesn't change the point that you still spread misinformation. You said nothing about going to Spaceworld. You tried to pass of your information as coming from a "manager-friend" that you grew up with. Now it's "I've been to Spaceworld" Regardless of whether that is the truth or not. You need to clearly state your ideas and information here. Did you think someone would NOT notice the fallacy statement that Zelda 64 was already released? You still haven't explained where you got that information from. As for you sharing information, it will be no one's loss if you do not. Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ Yes i did, read Electronic Gaming Monthly issue # 103 Dregan. P.S i found out that 1 of my freinds played a prank on me, u see, after i had wrote the letter, i had to get to work cause i was late, and i asked my friend who was with me at the time to send it for me, then he went in and changed a couple of my lines saying Zelda was released to get back at me. Opps ... sorry, I will get him 4 this, everything else is 100% accurate though. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] .... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Ballard Subject: [N64] Mega Man Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:52:55 -0800 (PST) I seem to remember reading something about Capcom planning to bring Mega Man over to the Nintendo 64, but now I can't find anything about it anywhere. Is Capcom planning this, or did I just create this "fact" out of my own twisted desires? Tim psu19083@odin.cc.pdx.edu [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Quest 64 Date: 05 Feb 1998 19:00:47 -0800 Let me have this game, I am gaggin' for an RPG, any game that will last!! PLEASE let me have it. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sawczyn, Andrew" Subject: [N64] Fighters Destiny and Polygons. Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:14:06 -0500 >> I know that I am going to get beaten up for saying this but I think that a >> major flaw in the N64 is its low polygon count. You shouldn't get beaten up about it, but you are correct that the N64 would benefit from pushing more polygons. >> I just played Fighter's Destiny and although it plays pretty well, it is painfully >> obvious that more polygons were required. I agree that more polygons should have been used. I don't know if this is a reflection upon the power of the N64 or the quality and experience of the development team. The 2nd and 3rd generation of fighters for both the Saturn and PSX look very good, will the N64 2nd generation games show the same amount of improvement? I hope so. I do think that comparing Fighter's Destiny to the original Virtua Fighter, Tekken, and Toshinden is a more valid comparison. >> I this because sometimes what a game needs is a high frame count. >> Look at VF2 for example. Although it ran on the Saturn it still boasted >> 60 fps. Don't get me wrong. There is not a connection between the number of polygons, frames per second and quality of graphics. It helps if all are as high as possible, but you shouldn't make a direct corrolation between them the way you did. I'm sure that the Sega designers lowered the polygon count in VF2 to achieve that so called 60fps. If the ability of the N64 was available to them to further shade the number of polygons that were used, the game would have been even better looking than it turned out. Fighter's Destiny is a good looking, fun game that could be improved. Whether the power is there to accomplish this has yet to be seen. Having seen what Acclaim has been able to wring out of the hardware I would say we will see better looking fighters down the road. Hopefully there will be a FD2. -Andrew [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: [N64] Nintendo 64 Mailing List Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:28:49 -0500 Two questions...
1) How many people on this mailing list are offended by cussing? I could go either way, but if no one is, why ban it?

2) What games would people like to see come to the N64? I for one, would like to see a 3D Duck Hunt included in SuperMario 64 II that uses a "light gun pack" that inserts in to the controller using Z as the trigger, and aims at the screen, so you could use the analog stick to move around still...That would be nice! Also, a 3D versions versions (all on one cartridge) of games like Space Invaders, Pong, Arkanoid, and other Atari 2600 games would be nice. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:35:25 -0500 As for this year, this is what I want:
Fighter's Destiny
1080 Degree Snowboarding
EarthWorm Jim 3D
Gex: Enter the Gecko
All Star Baseball '99
Quest 64
Forsaken
Mission: Impossible
Banjo-Kazooie
Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
NBA Live '99 (if that exists at the time)
Castlevania 3D

zimmfam@redrose.net wrote:

     Hey everyone.. I'm new to the list and was just wondering what N64
games everyone is most looking forward to? I can't wait for: 1080 Degrees
Snowboarding, Banjo-Kazooie, Ken Griffey Baseball 64 and of course Zelda
64. Thanks.
                                                              Zig (ICQ: 606350)

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[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: Re: [N64] poygons vs the atari 2600 Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:40:31 -0600 >- ->really can write computer games just by drawing every pixel on the screen, >- ->and then redrawing what has moved, and so on >Well thats how it will always work, as you say the only difference is that >its more hardware controlled now, old computers (spectrum/c64 etc onwards) >have been capable of displaying and manipulating polygons, they just did it >slower I think that was my point Pete :) In the old days programmers had no hardware support. I think the answer to the triva question is the TI 99/4a(first home computer with hardware sprites.) The VIC-20 does not appear to have had hardware sprites, and the TI99/4a predates the Commodore 64 if memory served me right. The atari attempts at home computers may have had hardware sprites, but I think the 99/4a predates them by just a little. Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Staying on topic. Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:00:26 -0500 At 06:52 AM 2/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >Uh, try to stay on topic people. >I know how much you love to talk about Resident Evil 2, or racists, but this >is an N64 list. RE2 is not on the N64, and there is no game that stars >racists, to my belief. What is even worse is that some people put a subject >like, "Off-Topic." That I do not think is good enough. If it is off topic >do not post it, no excuse, you are no more special than the other person. RE2's fine. It's a game, neh? Actually, Redneck Rampage stars rednecks, which are often racist homophobes. Sooo...your post is basically the most off-topic one today! :) ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Mega Man Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:57:47 -0500 >I seem to remember reading something about Capcom planning to bring Mega >Man over to the Nintendo 64, but now I can't find anything about it >anywhere. Is Capcom planning this, or did I just create this "fact" out >of my own twisted desires? I believe they did say there were working on some form of Mega Man to come to the 64. www.ign64.com probably has an article in their archives if I remember correctly. Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: siemon Subject: [N64] Game Nation: Official Opening. Date: 05 Feb 1998 21:20:04 +0100 Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org Hi all, Finally the time is there, a new Nintendo site, Game Nation is officially opened. You probably think, hmm, another advertise mail to this list, but we want you to know that this site is closer to this mailinglist than any other site. Why? Well, we try to involve the list as much as possible, at first all 11 staff members of Game Nation are list members as well. Besides the normal stuff like reviews, columns, links, cheats, Q&A and news, we try to offer you more original things as well. For example we have so called Discussions. Discussions are big quotes from the mailinglist. When an interesting debate takes place, we collect all topic related mails around the subject and put them in one file. This is fun for people who aren't subscribed to the list, so they can read a little about what's going on here, but also for list members it's interesting to see what has been said about a certain subject. We also have a download section, we offer you (and of course everyone else, not on this list) all sort of sounds of N64 games. Tunes and sound FX, everything you need. If you really need a certain tune of a game, you can e-mail the sounds editor, Winston Chan, at , he'll be willing to record some sounds for you. Next thing is the Visitors Area, this Section in Game Nation is a little different from the rest of the site. We upload at least 2 little question polls each week, these polls are rather simple and fun to fill out while you're there. The more bigger question polls are hosted by Ian Dickson , he will compose the bigger polls to see how you are thinking of the current happenings around Nintendo. Besides polls, you'll also find things like columns, specials and the adds centre, where you can place an add to sell a game, look for some bargains or go for a trade. Everything can easily be filled out through a form. Of course, this is only scratching the surface... So, why are we different from the one-person-made-Nintendo-sites? Since 11 people are working on this site, we have daily updates and lots of input. Give Game Nation a look at: http://www.gamenation.base.org and decide for yourself if you like it or not. our regards, The Game Nation Staff: Siemon Ian Kleinemans Winston Chan Denver Zach Eddy Wu Jacob Dan Zoe Collin Matt [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Off-Topic - Bouncing Mail AT&T Servers? Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:32:20 -0500 At 08:55 AM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hmm for some reason mail to me from this mailing list was bouncing at some >point yesterday, which caused me to be dropped. Any other AT&T subscribers >have this problem? What I miss yesterday, what I miss? ;) Well, I have a finished copy of Zelda in my hands. The whole list was in an uproar with congratulations, since I broke into Nintendo HQ (Japan) to get it. Tho it was worth it, now I'm stuck in a Japanese prison typing on a laptop....hehe. Actually nothing big. happened :). ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:47:16 -0500 In the letters section of Nintendo Power, someone asked if a Goldeneye soundtrack was made. Nintendo replyed that Rare was said to be making one, but it wouldn't be out until the holiday season. The holiday season is over, yet I don't think it's out yet. ----- Cutch wesday@saa.net Assistant Webmaster: http://www.kingdom64.com N64PCPSX@aol.com wrote: > Has there been a Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack made? If not, they should make one, > since the music is very good. I'm sure it would sell very well too. > > But if there is one, does anyone know where I could purchase it...such as the > Nintendo Power catalog? > > Peter > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N64PCPSX@aol.com Subject: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:18:30 EST Is there a goldeneye 007 soundtrack you can buy anywhere? Such as Nintendo Power, or a store? Peter [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PopaRatt@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:49:28 EST who cares about a 007 sound trak all i want is a good game not some damn thind with a story and a ending gusta good replayable game like i grew up with on the atari 2600 now that was a fun system no stuped stories just good games games you could play forever not this damn 3d crap [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:36:51 +0000 PopaRatt@aol.com,Internet writes: >who cares about a 007 sound trak all i want is a good game not some damn >thind >with a story and a ending gusta good replayable game like i grew up with >on >the atari 2600 now that was a fun system no stuped stories just good games >games you could play forever not this damn 3d crap Did we forget to take our medication today? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:39:51 -0500 Here are my most wanted N64 games: NBA In The Zone '98 Nagano Olympic Hockey '98 (since I haven't bought any of the Gretzkys) Snowboard Kids NHL Breakaway '98 Rampage: World Tour Mystical Ninja - Starring Goemon Yoshi's Story Aero Gauge Quake 1080 Snowboarding NBA Courtside All-Star Baseball '99 MLB Featuring Ken Griffey Jr. Quest 64 Cruis'n World Andretti Racing Mike Piazza's StrikeZone WWF Warzone Banjo-Kazooie F-Zero X Twisted Edge Snowboarding International Superstar Soccer 2 Extreme-G 2 Conker's Quest Earthworm Jim 3D Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Mega Man 64 NBA Jam '99 NFL Blitz Off-Road Challenge San Francisco Rush 2 WCW Nitro Command & Conquer 64 Donkey Kong 64 Earthbound 64 Grand Prix Racing Hybrid Heaven Super Mario 64 II Super Mario RPG 2 Now if I could only afford all of these games! ----- Cutch wesday@saa.net Assistant Webmaster: http://www.kingdom64.com zimmfam@redrose.net wrote: > Hey everyone.. I'm new to the list and was just wondering what N64 > games everyone is most looking forward to? I can't wait for: 1080 Degrees > Snowboarding, Banjo-Kazooie, Ken Griffey Baseball 64 and of course Zelda > 64. Thanks. > > Zig (ICQ: 606350) > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N64PCPSX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:54:29 EST In a message dated 2/5/98 3:52:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, PopaRatt@aol.com writes: << who cares about a 007 sound trak all i want is a good game not some damn thind with a story and a ending gusta good replayable game like i grew up with on the atari 2600 now that was a fun system no stuped stories just good games games you could play forever not this damn 3d crap >> If you don't like then why do you have to go complaining on this list???!!! We're not on this list to hear your stupid complaining. I was just asking a question. Only reply if you actually have something *good* to say. Just because you don't like what i'm asking about, don't read it!!!! P.S. get some manners and learn to spell along with punctuation. :) Peter [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 05 Feb 1998 21:56:25 -0800 I want Zelda64 Anything on 64DD ('cos it'll mean the DD is OUT!) and DKR 2 or GOLDENEYE 2 or ISS 2 -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] trivia Date: 05 Feb 1998 18:41:40 -0600 Commodore Vic 20? Michael Bauers wrote: > > Which was the first home computer with sprite registers? > > Michael Bauers > DGS > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: [N64] Mario Wall Jumps Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:30:20 GMT -> ->shall we tell the list how you actually do it or does everyone have to ->download the movie? There is no point in a text description 'coz from the ones I read I could never work out what they were going on about, waste of bandwidth. (says the boy with bastard fast connection from work :) ) Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rhodes2@juno.com (James W W Rhodes) Subject: [N64] game nation Date: 05 Feb 1998 20:40:56 EST What was the web site for game nation? I accidentally deleted it. :) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Chong" Subject: Re: [N64] game nation Date: 05 Feb 1998 21:40:27 -0500 http://www.gamenation.base.org -----Original Message----- >What was the web site for game nation? I accidentally deleted it. :) > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kideo@juno.com (Winston Chan) Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:47:07 -0800 If you want to listen to a tune from GE007, try going to Gamenation. It has tons of sounds, including ones from SM64. Everyone is about a minute long. Winston Chan ------------------------ Sound editor and assitance graphics guy of GAMENATION _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 23:12:51 -0500 >If you want to listen to a tune from GE007, try going to Gamenation. It >has tons of sounds, including ones from SM64. Everyone is about a minute >long. Yes-- I was going to mention that. Is anyone going to try doing MIDI versions of the songs, instead of just these WAVs? My sister is quite musically talented-- all I need is a MIDI adapter(keyboard to sound card), and she might be interested in doing it.... Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dvader" Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo 64 Mailing List Date: 05 Feb 1998 22:27:07 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BD3285.314226E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Two questions...=20 1) How many people on this mailing list are offended by cussing? I = could go either way, but if no one is, why ban it?=20 It doesn't offend me, but what's the point of cussing? 2) What games would people like to see come to the N64? I for one, = would like to see a 3D Duck Hunt included in SuperMario 64 II that uses = a "light gun pack" that inserts in to the controller using Z as the = trigger, and aims at the screen, so you could use the analog stick to = move around still...That would be nice! Also, a 3D versions versions = (all on one cartridge) of games like Space Invaders, Pong, Arkanoid, and = other Atari 2600 games would be nice.=20 =20 I would love to see some light gun games.=20 dvader@ali.intop.net http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/6946 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BD3285.314226E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Two = questions...
1)=20 How many people on this mailing list are offended by cussing? I = could go=20 either way, but if no one is, why ban it? It=20 doesn't offend me, but what's the point of cussing?

2) What games would people like to see come to the N64? I for = one, would=20 like to see a 3D Duck Hunt included in SuperMario 64 II that uses a=20 "light gun pack" that inserts in to the controller using Z = as the=20 trigger, and aims at the screen, so you could use the analog stick = to move=20 around still...That would be nice! Also, a 3D versions versions (all = on one=20 cartridge) of games like Space Invaders, Pong, Arkanoid, and other = Atari=20 2600 games would be nice.=20

I would love = to see some=20 light gun games.
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<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BD3285.314226E0-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: [N64] Crusin USA - 'It's bad' Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:40:36 +1000 I rented Crusin USA the other day and would have to say it's the worst game I've played on the N64...!! Boooo.... poor physics model, sh*#@ house frame rate, boring gameplay ...zzzzzzzzz too damn easy !!! After playing Top Gear Rally, Crusin really does bite the big one.... I would be most disappointed to have spent the $80 on it.... Top Gear on the other hand is, in my opinion, very sexy indeed with a fantastic physics model and great gameplay..... I have found a few of the other racing games on the N64 OK but not great... .... any suggestions ??... M [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 06 Feb 1998 00:35:26 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Dave A Christianson wrote: > I wish they'd start working on Metroid for N64/ release some info on it. > This is my most favorite series on Nintendo. I agree 100%!!! I LOVE METROID! Stryder: atcope@comp.uark.edu [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Cummings Subject: RE: [N64] Crusin USA - 'It's bad' Date: 06 Feb 1998 08:50:54 +0000 > I have found a few of the other racing games on the N64 OK but not great... any suggestions Yeah, - wait for Rev Limit (if it ever does come out) - better still, wait for TGR2 (release date of Nov 98 AFAIK - DD compatible, maybe). I also heard rumours of V-Rally 64 - look at ths ps version - v impressive and it has 42 tracks ! Anyone got any info about Cruisin World ? Cheers, Craig. _____________________________________________ Above all, it's a Rover ... Craig Cummings BA(Hons) _____ _______ Support Specialist / ___/ /__ __/ CCAT Business Systems / / __ / / __ / /_/ / / / / / Born to drive, \____/ /_ / /_/ Driven to drink !! http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~delgie/rover/frames.htm >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael.Schmidt@gecits-ap.com [SMTP:Michael.Schmidt@gecits-ap.com] >Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 3:41 AM >To: n64-digest@xmission.com >Subject: [N64] Crusin USA - 'It's bad' > > > > > >I rented Crusin USA the other day and would have to say it's the worst game >I've played on the N64...!! Boooo.... poor physics model, sh*#@ house >frame rate, boring gameplay ...zzzzzzzzz too damn easy !!! After playing >Top Gear Rally, Crusin really does bite the big one.... I would be most >disappointed to have spent the $80 on it.... Top Gear on the other hand >is, in my opinion, very sexy indeed with a fantastic physics model and >great gameplay..... > >I have found a few of the other racing games on the N64 OK but not great... >.... any suggestions ??... > >M > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: Re: Re(2): [N64] Zelda 64 to ship in.... Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:10:16 GMT ->P.S i found out that 1 of my freinds played a prank on me, u see, ->after i had wrote the letter, i had to get to work cause i was late, ->and i asked my friend who was with me at the time to send it for me, ->then he went in and changed a couple of my lines saying Zelda was ->released to get back at me. Opps ... sorry, I will get him 4 this, ->everything else is 100% accurate though. And then space aliens kidnapped me and took me to venus, where they had a fully completed copy of Zelda 64, a DD and DKC that I played for some days before they flew me back, through a time warp and put me back on earth a second after I had left. Don't worry I will get them 4 this. ;) Pete [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pete@lucent.com Subject: [N64] GameNation Q? Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:26:14 GMT This gamenation site, is it 'sposed to be representative of the list or merely representative of the US N64 gaming world? e.g. release dates etc. It was quite illuminating to see the ages of some of the list members, puts quite a different context on some of the posts here. Pete Nb. All accusations of ageism can be addressed to /dev/null. Ta. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: [N64] quest Date: 06 Feb 1998 06:44:03 -0600 guys, dont u think quest is a LAME name? what should we recommend TH*Q? -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kideo@juno.com (Winston Chan) Subject: Re: [N64] Goldeneye 007 Soundtrack... Date: 05 Feb 1998 20:50:33 -0800 I might get some MIDI tracks from the old N64hq site but I am unable to make it. I don't have a MIDI keyboard and don't know how to make one. Winston Chan On Thu, 05 Feb 1998 23:12:51 -0500 Derek Kalweit writes: >>If you want to listen to a tune from GE007, try going to Gamenation. >It >>has tons of sounds, including ones from SM64. Everyone is about a >minute >>long. > >Yes-- I was going to mention that. Is anyone going to try doing MIDI >versions of the songs, instead of just these WAVs? My sister is >quite >musically talented-- all I need is a MIDI adapter(keyboard to sound >card), >and she might be interested in doing it.... > > Derek Kalweit > > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] vic20 Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:09:30 -0600 Did the vic20 have sprite registers? I checked a lot of web pages for vic20 specs, and none mentioned them. That is not to say they were not there? Anyone know for a fact? Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: siemon Subject: Re: [N64] GameNation Q? Date: 06 Feb 1998 18:18:30 +0100 >This gamenation site, is it 'sposed to be representative of the list or merely >representative of the US N64 gaming world? e.g. release dates etc. >It was quite illuminating to see the ages of some of the list members, puts >quite a different context on some of the posts here. Well, pete, I have to say I was a little surprised as well, the first time I saw the ages, but when I thought of it, I understood it was a stupid way of thinking. Judging people on their ages? Hmmmm, don't think that's a really good thing to do. That's also (one of) the reason(s) I love Internet, most poeple will take you serious since they don't know your indentity. I don't think age can influence things to be said in here. As my dad always says, some kids know more than me collegeas. Keep that in mind. -Siemon _______________________________________________________________________ Siemon Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ= 5750532 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: siemon Subject: Re: [N64] GameNation Q? -to answer your other question.. Date: 06 Feb 1998 18:44:45 +0100 >This gamenation site, is it 'sposed to be representative of the list or merely >representative of the US N64 gaming world? e.g. release dates etc. >It was quite illuminating to see the ages of some of the list members, puts >quite a different context on some of the posts here. And to answer your question about the representativity (???) of Game Nation, we try to represent both the mailinglist and the US N64 gaming world. As you might have noticed there's a special section in Game Nation dedicated to the mailinglist, here you'll find so called discussions, which are big quotes of interesting topics on this list. We're also working on an exclusive interview with the Gregmeister (owner of this list).. So be sure to check the section at Game Nation (URL listed below) yours sincerely, -Siemon _______________________________________________________________________ Siemon Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ= 5750532 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] GameNation Q? Date: 06 Feb 1998 14:50:50 -0500 I was the one who originally put up the release list, so I guess I can answer your question. The reason the only release list we have is for the US is beacuse I live in the USA, and I put up the release list. You might also have noticed that the list hasn't been updated in about a month. This is because I've decided I couldn't handle this in addition to my jobs as Reviews and Links editor. (BTW, sieomn, you should update the staff page and take that off my job list) The site as a whole should represent the international community. For instance, siemon and kleinmans both live in Sweden, while I live in NY. About the age issue... I'll try not to be offensive, but what does this have to do with anything? Recently we had a post on the list about racism, which I think was put down rather soon. This is the same type of issue. Can we help how old we are? does it affect our intelligence? The answer is no. For someone to even question the value of our posts solely based on age shows a deep-rooted prejudice against the younger generation. Also, you have to remeber that videogaming itself is mainly targeted at younger people. Therefore, on an n64 mailing list it only stands to reason that a large percetage of us woud be teenagers. I think you'll find that people like yourself, who are older, are actually the minority. Remeber, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but try to keep an open mind. -----Original Message----- >This gamenation site, is it 'sposed to be representative of the list or merely >representative of the US N64 gaming world? e.g. release dates etc. >It was quite illuminating to see the ages of some of the list members, puts >quite a different context on some of the posts here. > >Pete > >Nb. All accusations of ageism can be addressed to /dev/null. >Ta. > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Websites Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:13:44 -0800 Are there any good PAL websites (other than the one I run)? -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:47:00 -0500 getting senile. I think the assertion that video gaming is focused towards the younger age group is a bit flawed, I'll explain why. It's true most arcades are geared towards younger folk. But many places, like the new huge Sega arcades, and Dave and Buster's have hours that cater towards the older group. It's also been proven(via Sony's sales of the PSX), that us older folks (who were your age back in the day and enjoyed video games), don't necessarily STOP enjoy games just because we grow older. Some companies simply choose not to market towards us anymore. (Which is ridiculous, who has the buying power?). Who is purchasing those Neo Geo systems?(Still a solid seller regardless that it's a niche system), who is purchasing the new systems many times when they are first released and cost $300+. Alot of times it's the parents. Parents who themselves may have been into gaming when they were younger. No, video games are only as focused towards an age group as a company wants them to be...either younger(generally Nintendo), or older (generally Sony). Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: [N64] What is Age...Well.... Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:52:46 -0500 >I was the one who originally put up the release list, so I guess I can >answer your question. The reason the only release list we have is for the >US is beacuse I live in the USA, and I put up the release list. You might >also have noticed that the list hasn't been updated in about a month. This >is because I've decided I couldn't handle this in addition to my jobs as >Reviews and Links editor. (BTW, sieomn, you should update the staff page >and take that off my job list) >The site as a whole should represent the international community. For >instance, siemon and kleinmans both live in Sweden, while I live in NY. > >About the age issue... I'll try not to be offensive, but what does this have >to do with anything? Recently we had a post on the list about racism, which >I think was put down rather soon. This is the same type of issue. Can we >help how old we are? does it affect our intelligence? The answer is no. >For someone to even question the value of our posts solely based on age >shows a deep-rooted prejudice against the younger generation. >Also, you have to remeber that videogaming itself is mainly targeted at >younger people. Therefore, on an n64 mailing list it only stands to reason >that a large percetage of us woud be teenagers. I think you'll find that >people like yourself, who are older, are actually the minority. >Remeber, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but try to keep an open >mind. Ok, as one of the older posters here(27-I�m not THAT old.)...let me give you my input on this. Us old folks remember the Odyssey, the Timex Sinclair(computer with Mickey D-type keypad), the Vic 20, Commodore 64, Atari 2600, Vectrex, etc. Not only do we remember these games(arcade vector graphics Star Wars, Tempest, Centipede, Defender), but we actually played them. If anything I simply think it means the older post of the group may have a different view on the comings and goings within the industry. While graphically the improvements are there....the movements within company�s, the moving of developers, the concerns about developers� being coerced into only developing for one system, ridiculous sales expectations, rushed products, the rising and falling of power...really isn�t anything new. Like for instance the fall of Atari...how many here actually played ET? I remember the game....did you know that game was done in 6 months? And estimates of it�s sales were so grossly overstated that there really is a place out west that has cartridges buried in it? Who here remembers the Colecovision add-on �Adam� a computer add-on, that didn�t fly too well at the time, but really had some nice potential. Now, that is not to say that you can�t READ about this stuff, there are some really good sites that have �histories� out there. But it�s different when you were actually there. Basically it�s not that the younger folks have a necessarily flawed view of what goes on today...just possibly a limited one. But that�s not your/their fault. I believe the poster was stating that if you site is to be representative of the mailing list...and the gaming userbase as a whole...that the age group should be more varied. I�ll stop ranting now. Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages http://www.digital-ages.com Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. Reviewer, PSX Unlimited http://www.techline.com/~braun/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flash " Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:55:47 -0500 Idon't think that the adds, are focused at young eople only, heck i don't remember seeing many adds for games, and systems that feature kids. Most adds are about the game or system. I don't think the videogame companies single out or exclude anyone. about the buying power, ya adults have it more that kids, but i bought my n64, and all but 2 games i have. i bought the mem pac and the extra controller my self. i paid for about a quarter of the "Family" computer, i buy my own cd's, eletronics in gemeral. I but components for eletronics, and add ons. my point here is that adults have the buying power, but they don't have to use it. don't get the wrong idea about me, i ain't a spoiled rich kid, i save my money. i don't have a job, or an allounce. i am not a drug pusher either =^) you don't believe me, i can get a alibi. to make this more n64 related about gamenation, no offence, but the site looks good, but it is hard as hell to navigate through. just a suggestion, dont be mean and shun me from society for my comment. hey, also, just to stir up the arguement, I thik PC rules over N64 and PSX in the order in which they place #1. PC #2. N64 #3. PSX who agrees? ya... this is what i think ~Flash Darien Allen wrote: > getting senile. I think the assertion that video gaming is focused > towards the younger age group is a bit flawed, I'll explain why. It's true > most arcades are geared towards younger folk. But many places, like the new > huge Sega arcades, and Dave and Buster's have hours that cater towards the > older group. It's also been proven(via Sony's sales of the PSX), that us > older folks (who were your age back in the day and enjoyed video games), > don't necessarily STOP enjoy games just because we grow older. Some > companies simply choose not to market towards us anymore. (Which is > ridiculous, who has the buying power?). Who is purchasing those Neo Geo > systems?(Still a solid seller regardless that it's a niche system), who is > purchasing the new systems many times when they are first released and cost > $300+. Alot of times it's the parents. Parents who themselves may have been > into gaming when they were younger. > > No, video games are only as focused towards an age group as a company wants > them to be...either younger(generally Nintendo), or older (generally Sony). > > ----------------------------- > Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 > N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. > Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages > http://www.digital-ages.com > Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. > Reviewer, PSX Unlimited > http://www.techline.com/~braun/ > ----------------------------- > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:07:28 -0600 (CST) AGE age age. Here's my 3.5 cents. I think the Nintendo is TOO younger age oriented. I mean how many REAL adult type games are there. Yes I own Goldeneye, and thats about the only N64 game that goes in my N64, besides WCW/NWO, but thats a whole 'nother Springer episode. I am tired of all ther kiddy games. I am older than quite a few on the list at 23, but I am not that old. Most of the games are just too kiddy. Eg. Diddy Kong (nothing wrong with it, just lots of short squatty cartoon characters) I just want a gory realistic (no, I am not Manson, or anything like that) game with people that look like people (goldeneye), and real life type physics, and no name "Kids" tacked on to the end of the title. Is that soooo hard? Just my rant. On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Flash wrote: > Idon't think that the adds, are focused at young eople only, heck i don't > remember seeing many adds for games, and systems that feature kids. Most adds > are about the game or system. I don't think the videogame companies single out > or exclude anyone. about the buying power, ya adults have it more that kids, > but i bought my n64, and all but 2 games i have. i bought the mem pac and the > extra controller my self. i paid for about a quarter of the "Family" computer, > i buy my own cd's, eletronics in gemeral. I but components for eletronics, and > add ons. my point here is that adults have the buying power, but they don't > have to use it. don't get the wrong idea about me, i ain't a spoiled rich kid, > i save my money. i don't have a job, or an allounce. i am not a drug pusher > either =^) you don't believe me, i can get a alibi. > > to make this more n64 related about gamenation, no offence, but the site > looks good, but it is hard as hell to navigate through. just a suggestion, > dont be mean and shun me from society for my comment. hey, also, just to stir > up the arguement, I thik PC rules over N64 and PSX in the order in which they > place > > > > #1. PC > #2. N64 > #3. PSX > > who agrees? > ya... this is what i think > ~Flash > > Darien Allen wrote: > > > getting senile. I think the assertion that video gaming is focused > > towards the younger age group is a bit flawed, I'll explain why. It's true > > most arcades are geared towards younger folk. But many places, like the new > > huge Sega arcades, and Dave and Buster's have hours that cater towards the > > older group. It's also been proven(via Sony's sales of the PSX), that us > > older folks (who were your age back in the day and enjoyed video games), > > don't necessarily STOP enjoy games just because we grow older. Some > > companies simply choose not to market towards us anymore. (Which is > > ridiculous, who has the buying power?). Who is purchasing those Neo Geo > > systems?(Still a solid seller regardless that it's a niche system), who is > > purchasing the new systems many times when they are first released and cost > > $300+. Alot of times it's the parents. Parents who themselves may have been > > into gaming when they were younger. > > > > No, video games are only as focused towards an age group as a company wants > > them to be...either younger(generally Nintendo), or older (generally Sony). > > > > ----------------------------- > > Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 > > N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. > > Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages > > http://www.digital-ages.com > > Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. > > Reviewer, PSX Unlimited > > http://www.techline.com/~braun/ > > ----------------------------- > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > -- > _ _____________________________ _ > / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ > / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ > _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ > (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| (\\\\ \_/ / -oOOO--(_)--OOOo- \ \_/ ////) > \ / \ / > \ _/ \_ / > / / \ \ > /___/ http://www.surf.to/n64news \___\ > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > John Carson (jcarson@comp.uark.edu) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:11:40 +0000 dankornt@bright.net,Internet writes: >Idon't think that the adds, are focused at young eople only, heck i don'= t >remember seeing many adds for games, and systems that feature kids. Most >adds >are about the game or system. I don't think the videogame companies >single out >or exclude anyone. You can=92t possably think that games like Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo-Kazoo= ie, Conkers Quest, and Yoshi=92s Story don=92t cater to the younger audience = and that games like Resident Evil 2 or even Final Fantasy VII don=92t cater t= o the older audience. I believe that Nintendo themselves said that they target players from ages 6-14. Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [N64] What is Age...Well.... Date: 06 Feb 1998 14:10:35 PST Excellent post. Although you're a older than me, I still recall some of the things you mention in you post and totally agree. I think that some of the older gamers have a different type of attitude or appreciation ( for lack of a better word at the moment ) that some of the younger ones have. I'm not saying they don't know what good games are or enjoy them, but that older have a different viewpoint. But, when they get older, and their little brothers, sisters and cousins will look at things differently, too. Not a rant, but kinda like a "State of the Older Gamers Address..." elliot eljam@hotmail.com >Ok, as one of the older posters here(27-I�m not THAT old.)...let me give you >my input on this. Us old folks remember the Odyssey, the Timex >Sinclair(computer with Mickey D-type keypad), the Vic 20, Commodore 64, >Atari 2600, Vectrex, etc. Not only do we remember these games(arcade vector >graphics Star Wars, Tempest, Centipede, Defender), but we actually played >them. If anything I simply think it means the older post of the group may >have a different view on the comings and goings within the industry. While >graphically the improvements are there....the movements within company�s, >the moving of developers, the concerns about developers� being coerced into >only developing for one system, ridiculous sales expectations, rushed >products, the rising and falling of power...really isn�t anything new. >Like for instance the fall of Atari...how many here actually played ET? I >remember the game....did you know that game was done in 6 months? And >estimates of it�s sales were so grossly overstated that there really is a >place out west that has cartridges buried in it? Who here remembers the >Colecovision add-on �Adam� a computer add-on, that didn�t fly too well at >the time, but really had some nice potential. Now, that is not to say that >you can�t READ about this stuff, there are some really good sites that have >�histories� out there. But it�s different when you were actually there. >Basically it�s not that the younger folks have a necessarily flawed view of >what goes on today...just possibly a limited one. But that�s not your/their >fault. I believe the poster was stating that if you site is to be >representative of the mailing list...and the gaming userbase as a >whole...that the age group should be more varied. I�ll stop ranting now. >----------------------------- >Darien Allen - ICQ #2927081 >N64 and Saturn News, Reviews, Etc. >Mailbag Editor, Digital Ages >http://www.digital-ages.com >Playstation News, Reviews, Etc. >Reviewer, PSX Unlimited >http://www.techline.com/~braun/ >----------------------------- > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] What is Age...Well.... NOT A RANT..JUST A REQUEST Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:48:14 -0500 Well, if you think our website should eb more representative of all the peeps on the lsit, then join the staff!! It's not like anyone is prevent= ing you. While we try to integrate the list, we can't really express the opinions of the older gamers if we ourselves aren't of that age group. I can't just suddenly take on the persona of another person for a column. Our Discussions section tries to express the views of everyone on the lis= t, regardless of age group. Nonetheless, if you feel you aren't being represented, I'm pretty sure we would be willing to give you a weekly or monthly column in which you express yourself. glacion@earthlink.net Links and Reviews Editor http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ: 1907649 >Basically it=92s not that the younger folks have a necessarily flawed vi= ew of >what goes on today...just possibly a limited one. But that=92s not your/their >fault. I believe the poster was stating that if you site is to be >representative of the mailing list...and the gaming userbase as a >whole...that the age group should be more varied. I=92ll stop ranting n= ow. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: [N64] Gamenatiion suggestions? Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:54:23 -0500 Do you have any suggestions for improvement? What exactly about the navigation didn't you like? Feeback is always welcome. -----Original Message----- >to make this more n64 related about gamenation, no offence, but the site >looks good, but it is hard as hell to navigate through. just a suggestion, >dont be mean and shun me from society for my comment. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rhodes2@juno.com (James W W Rhodes) Subject: [N64] Duke Nukem 64 Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:47:30 EST What is the no monsters, invincibility, and the state select codes for Duke Nukem 64? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flash " Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 06 Feb 1998 18:10:07 -0500 Emerson Mounger wrote: > dankornt@bright.net,Internet writes: > >Idon't think that the adds, are focused at young eople only, heck i do= n't > >remember seeing many adds for games, and systems that feature kids. Mo= st > >adds > >are about the game or system. I don't think the videogame companies > >single out > >or exclude anyone. > > ? never mind, inside joke! > You can=92t possably think that games like Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo-Kaz= ooie, > Conkers Quest, and Yoshi=92s Story don=92t cater to the younger audienc= e and > that games like Resident Evil 2 or even Final Fantasy VII don=92t cater= to > the older audience. I believe that Nintendo themselves said that they > target players from ages 6-14. > > Emerson Hey what you say may be true, but Iont see commericals portraying a "chil= d" playing DKR. I like those games, DKR, Yoshi's Story type games. I also li= ke Resident Evil 2 and all. But the point i am trying to make can be said by= the rating on the games. never have i seen a rating that sez; "Ages 5-14= " have you? ~Flash > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] What is Age...Well.... Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:29:58 -0500 >Excellent post. Although you're a older than me, I still recall some of >the things you mention in you post and totally agree. I think that some >of the older gamers have a different type of attitude or appreciation ( >for lack of a better word at the moment ) that some of the younger ones >have. I'm not saying they don't know what good games are or enjoy them, >but that older have a different viewpoint. But, when they get older, >and their little brothers, sisters and cousins will look at things >differently, too. > >Not a rant, but kinda like a "State of the Older Gamers Address..." I know what you mean. I'm only 17, but I'm a classic VG collector, and I can really appreciate the excellent graphics/sound of the newer games, but also find the gameplay lacking sometimes-- especially RE-playability. :( And I know what you mean about their little brothers/sister/cousins-- even kids just a few years younger than me, I can see MAJOR attitude differences, towards VGs.. :( Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacob H. Forstater" Subject: Re: [N64] Duke Nukem 64 Date: 06 Feb 1998 19:59:40 -0500 goto www.gamenation.base.org in it's cheat section you will find it. If you don't have web access tell me and i will e-mail you them. -Jacob _______________________________________________________________________ Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ= 5149409 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rhodes2@juno.com (James W W Rhodes) Subject: Re: [N64] Duke Nukem 64 Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:22:44 EST Please email them to me. I do not have the web. On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:59:40 -0500 "Jacob H. Forstater" writes: >goto www.gamenation.base.org in it's cheat section you will find it. >If you >don't have web access tell me and i will e-mail you them. >-Jacob >_______________________________________________________________________ >Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, >jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org >ICQ= 5149409 > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: [N64] My prayers have been answered!!! Date: 06 Feb 1998 22:26:16 -0500 Okay I admit it, I'm a little too excited about this. Sorry, I can't help it for it seems that there are at least 2, count them 2, Tomb Raider clones on the way for the N64. Now I know that many N64 owners downplay the importance of TR and TR2, mostly because Eidos snubbed Nintendo in favor of an exclusive deal with Sony. The reality is that TR was a genre-defining game just like Mario was. There is now news from IGN64.com that Eidos is currently developing a TR clone without the TR name. This would avoid any contract breach problems with Sony. Hey, I don't care if Lara isn't the star of the game. I want the gameplay, although it would be nice if the character was also a big breasted, great looking, english speaking, knockout heroine. We'll see what they come up with. The other TR clone is Shadowman which is being designed by the same developers that brought us Turok. Like Turok it uses unbelievable visuals with a new TR like interface. Hopefully this title will rock. I'm not sure about the Eidos game, but Acclaim says that Shadowman will be out in late 98. I'm a happy man. For screen shots of Shadowman check out ign64.com. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 06 Feb 1998 23:48:18 -0500 Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :) Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ss PisToL Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:37:46 -0500 I use a 27" TV [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AvidGamePlayer@webtv.net (Tim Howe) Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 01:48:35 -0500 I have a 27" Magnavox, and Videogaming has never been better :-) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 12:40:38 -0800 I am 15 yrs and I could only afford a 14" TV. I think it is OK but sometimes multiplayer (4 way split) gets a bit confusing, the boxs are too small. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MattKK007@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 07:42:36 EST i have a 36' tv its BIG i got it a long time ago gaming rules...so does mario 64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ForeverJD@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 08:49:18 EST I switch from a 27 inch tv in the bedroom which I use when I am going to just play for a short while to a beautiful JVC 36 inch with a complete Onkyo surround sound system (which at 100 watts still has the neighbors complaining).Add to that a 65 watt subwoofer and it gives a good game a whole new feel.Picture standing by the waterfall in Mario 64 and just spinning around and hear the waterfall rumble around the room as you turn. Just to add to the "age" discussion I must be one of the elders at 32 but you would never know it while i'm playing.Just ask my wife when the boys come over to play! "You kids" is usually the comment! ah well some people just don't get it! JD [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 08:59:23 -0500 I usually play on my 19" TV, but it ROCKS when I go over to my friends house and we play on his 72" TV! Derek Kalweit wrote: > Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what > everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :) > > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenatiion suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 09:38:57 EST One suggestion that I have for the site is change your mail program. I showed it to my little brother, and even though he is a tad on the young side ( 7 ), he still found it frustrating to use. I think that changeing to a simpler format would make the site more universal, and let more people have input. Maybe a chat room, too? ~Dash <> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 09:46:40 EST I play my N64, PSX, and SNES all on a 37 inch MAGNAVOX TV. ~Dash <> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: [N64] [Fwd: ] Date: 07 Feb 1998 09:51:39 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6B6F77DDAEA7ADD15DC086A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i sent this email to crave, and look at the response! -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 --------------6B6F77DDAEA7ADD15DC086A5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from main.cravegames.com (cravegames.com [207.66.214.5]) by mail.internet.com.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07259 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:03:49 -0600 (CST) Received: by bigrain.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <12NPLJN7>; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:01:20 -0800 Message-ID: <7EF722F0F360D111954300805FC130BD8515@bigrain.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Shadow Madness is a PlayStation title. We're finalizing about 6 more games to be released in 1998, including Milo's Bowl-A-Rama (N64). We'll release more information with both sony and nintendo finalize the titles. Ted Woolsey Crave Entertainment, Inc. >>sorry, but what platform is shadow madness for? >>and what other games, (not listed here,), are in the works by CRAVE? -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 --------------6B6F77DDAEA7ADD15DC086A5-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Most Wanted N64 Games Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:27:46 -0500 Lessee... I want- Zelda 64 (duh) Mario 2 Turok 2 That mech game from Hudson, which I forgot the name... And whatever Rare has up their sleeves. ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenatiion suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:40:04 -0500 At 05:54 PM 2/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >Do you have any suggestions for improvement? What exactly about the >navigation didn't you like? Feeback is always welcome. Actually, it's very well done, IMO. Good job, everybody. The thing that *I* think needs improvement is the lack of graphics...that's just what think. I could whip up a few if you need 'em...unless you already have a graphics designer. Other than that, AWESOME job! ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] My prayers have been answered!!! Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:45:50 -0500 >I want the gameplay, although it would be nice if the >character was also a big breasted, great looking, english speaking, knockout >heroine. We'll see what they come up with. I don't know, with the horndogs at Eidos... :) The other TR clone is Shadowman >which is being designed by the same developers that brought us Turok. Like >Turok it uses unbelievable visuals with a new TR like interface. Hopefully >this title will rock. I'm not sure about the Eidos game, but Acclaim says >that Shadowman will be out in late 98. Shadowman is apparently N64's answer to the scary PSX games. I read a preview of it in NG, and it looks sounds scary! It's still early in development, but still, the screens look real cool. ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:46:33 -0500 At 11:48 PM 2/6/98 -0500, you wrote: > Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what >everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :) 13". I'm friggin' broke. Not even stereo, either. Mono all the way baby! ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 10:51:05 -0700 At 01:48 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have a 27" Magnavox, and Videogaming has never been better :-) I've been using a piddly 14-16" monitor that is about 10 years old (which is kind of ironic seeing it hooked up to N64, PSX, and Saturn :) ). I'm about thisclose to buying a new TV, one with stereo hookups and all for between 200-300 dollars. Right now I'm looking at a stereo RCA 26" for 289 dollars; anyone think that's a good price for that size? What about RCA, is that a reputable and good company? Thanks for any help/suggestions. -Tyler V Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kleinemans Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenation suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 18:51:58 +0100 >One suggestion that I have for the site is change your mail program. I showed >it to my little brother, and even though he is a tad on the young side ( 7 ), >he still found it frustrating to use. I think that changeing to a simpler >format would make the site more universal, and let more people have input. >Maybe a chat room, too? What do you mean with "mail program"??? Please explain.. kleinemans ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| |_____________________________________________________________________| [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kleinemans Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenation suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 18:58:23 +0100 >At 05:54 PM 2/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >>Do you have any suggestions for improvement? What exactly about the >>navigation didn't you like? Feeback is always welcome. >Actually, it's very well done, IMO. Good job, everybody. The thing that *I* >think needs improvement is the lack of graphics...that's just what think. >I could whip up a few if you need 'em...unless you already have a graphics >designer. Other than that, AWESOME job! We have a very good graphics guy, Collin ( digest member of the list) He designed our logo, and will improve graphics in the future. We're also planning to include screenshots, and stuff like that. We're glad you like the site. When we designed it, our biggest concern was that tippy would have to like it.... kleinemans + Siemon ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| |_____________________________________________________________________| [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 12:01:10 -0500 >> Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what >>everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :) >13". I'm friggin' broke. Not even stereo, either. Mono all the way baby! You haven't even hooked it up to a stereo? Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:59:43 -0500 >I am 15 yrs and I could only afford a 14" TV. I think it is OK but >sometimes multiplayer (4 way split) gets a bit confusing, the boxs are >too small. I know what you mean-- I have a really old 15" TV, and it's VERY hard to play anything multiplayer on. :( Not just the size, but it's like the edges of the screen are blocked out or something... :( Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 13:00:48 -0500 >>I have a 27" Magnavox, and Videogaming has never been better :-) >I've been using a piddly 14-16" monitor that is about 10 years old (which >is kind of ironic seeing it hooked up to N64, PSX, and Saturn :) ). I'm >about thisclose to buying a new TV, one with stereo hookups and all for >between 200-300 dollars. Right now I'm looking at a stereo RCA 26" for 289 >dollars; anyone think that's a good price for that size? What about RCA, >is that a reputable and good company? Thanks for any help/suggestions. What a coincidence! That's the exact same one that I'm looking at! At Walmart, right? That's a VERY good price, and RCA is probably the BEST brand for TVs/VCRs. Not to mention that I can get you the phone# of a place you can order replacement parts if something goes wrong(usually happens to 10 year old VCRs only. ). I suggest get it-- I will as soon as I can save the rest of the money($101). Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] My prayers have been answered!!! Date: 07 Feb 1998 13:18:01 EST Uh, I was under the impression that Shadowman was being developed by Iguana (the guys who made Turok), and that it was once again going to be based on an Akklaim comic. Did I read/hear right, or is this another one of my sick delusions? ~Dash ****STUFF SNIPPED**** <<<>>> << hadowman is apparently N64's answer to the scary PSX games. I read a preview of it in NG, and it looks sounds scary! It's still early in development, but still, the screens look real cool.>> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenation suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 13:25:49 EST In a message dated 98-02-07 12:56:34 EST, you write: <<<>>> <> I talked to my little bro, and he said that when he clicked on the Join me to your mailing list thingy, he got a confusing mail program that didn't send his mail when he clicked send. I need to see it first, but just making a simplier way to contact you guys (I'm sure I'll be able to fix the problem), to make the site easier for all to become connected to. ~Dash [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] My prayers have been answered!!! Date: 07 Feb 1998 14:21:22 -0500 That's exactly right Dash. It's based on a comic and made by the same team as Truok. Dash91284@aol.com wrote: > Uh, I was under the impression that Shadowman was being developed by Iguana > (the guys who made Turok), and that it was once again going to be based on an > Akklaim comic. Did I read/hear right, or is this another one of my sick > delusions? > > ~Dash > > ****STUFF SNIPPED**** > <<< Like > Turok it uses unbelievable visuals with a new TR like interface. Hopefully > this title will rock. I'm not sure about the Eidos game, but Acclaim says > that Shadowman will be out in late 98.>>>> > > << hadowman is apparently N64's answer to the scary PSX games. I read a > preview of it in NG, and it looks sounds scary! It's still early in > development, but still, the screens look real cool.>> > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kleinemans Subject: Re: [N64] Gamenation suggestions? Date: 07 Feb 1998 20:53:39 +0100 >I talked to my little bro, and he said that when he clicked on the Join me to >your mailing list thingy, he got a confusing mail program that didn't send his >mail when he clicked send. I need to see it first, but just making a simplier >way to contact you guys (I'm sure I'll be able to fix the problem), to make >the site easier for all to become connected to. You should check if youyr browser is properly configured for sending e-mail. There are also other ways to contact us such as clickin on "contact us" in the left frame. kleinemans + siemon ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| |_____________________________________________________________________| [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: [N64] Online retailers Date: 07 Feb 1998 15:25:09 -0500 Hey guys. I really need to know some good, cheap N64 game retailers, preferrably places that also have import games. These are the ones I already know: http://www.game-masters.com http://members.aol.com/usedgame/buy/ http://www.therage.com http://www.tronixweb.com http://www.gamebros.com http://www.vglq.com http://www.inficad.com/~apexvideogames ----- Cutch wesday@saa.net Assistant Webmaster: http://www.kingdom64.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 16:11:25 -0500 >You haven't even hooked it up to a stereo? My stereo has no AV inputs...:) ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Is my site any good? Date: 07 Feb 1998 21:40:48 -0800 I work on this site and I want to know the educated opinion of the list. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] Online retailers Date: 07 Feb 1998 15:09:36 -0600 >Hey guys. I really need to know some good, cheap N64 game retailers, >preferrably places that also have import games. These are the ones I >already know: > >http://www.game-masters.com >http://members.aol.com/usedgame/buy/ >http://www.therage.com >http://www.tronixweb.com >http://www.gamebros.com >http://www.vglq.com >http://www.inficad.com/~apexvideogames I think the cheapest import dealer on the internet is http://www.buyrite1.com They say that if you can find a better deal than what they have their games listed for, they will lower their price on their game AND give you 10 bucks off your purchase! Another import dealer is Video Source, http://www.video-source.com Hope this helps! -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:25:20 -0500 Well, actually, RCA, is a great company, and thats a great price too...I got my 20 inch, easy-input TV for my 12th birthday (born - 8/2/85)...and its hooked up to NES, SNES, N64, and VCR, all at once, and the only thing I have problems with is widescreen (as like have my movies are) movies; they can get a little short.

Tyler V Snow wrote:

At 01:48 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a 27" Magnavox, and Videogaming has never been better :-)
I've been using a piddly 14-16" monitor that is about 10 years old (which
is kind of ironic seeing it hooked up to N64, PSX, and Saturn :) ). I'm
about thisclose to buying a new TV, one with stereo hookups and all for
between 200-300 dollars. Right now I'm looking at a stereo RCA 26" for 289
dollars; anyone think that's a good price for that size? What about RCA,
is that a reputable and good company? Thanks for any help/suggestions.
-Tyler V Snow
tvsnow@usa.net
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Jeremy Tocher wrote:

uh
i think it is 59
or 54
something like that
it is a bit old, like 5 years
an earlier projection tv
so there is some blurriness
but it is big!!!
great for goldeneye
i was wondering how people could play on only 30"
-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Kalweit <dkalweit@eznet.net>
To: n64@xmission.com <n64@xmission.com>
Date: Friday, February 06, 1998 11:50 PM
Subject: [N64] What size TVs?
>    Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what
>everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :)
>
> Derek Kalweit
> Email: dkalweit@eznet.net
> Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/
> NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/
>
>
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I feel good....

Uh, I don't = actually ever=20 remember seeing a TV smaller than 30".

My parents have a 30", there is a 60" in = the family=20 room, and this one down here is the 54 or 59 that I was talking=20 about.

I didn't know TV's went that = small...

25 inches?

What the?

whoa...

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Jack Rabbit Slim <ti64@mindspring.com>
To:= =20 n64@lists.xmission.com=20 <n64@lists.xmission.com>
= Date:=20 Saturday, February 07, 1998 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] = What=20 size TVs?

You spoiled little BRAT! Only 30 = inches!=20 That's huge compared to some peoples!=20

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I have a 27 inch and a 32 inch, both are fine... > >Jeremy Tocher wrote: >> >> uh >> i think it is 59 >> or 54 >> something like that >> it is a bit old, like 5 years >> an earlier projection tv >> so there is some blurriness >> but it is big!!! >> great for goldeneye >> i was wondering how people could play on only 30" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Derek Kalweit >> To: n64@xmission.com >> Date: Friday, February 06, 1998 11:50 PM >> Subject: [N64] What size TVs? >> >> > Hi. I'm currently saving for a 25/26" TV, and I was wondering what >> >everyone here usually plays their N64/VGs on? Curious.. :) >> > >> > Derek Kalweit >> > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net >> > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ >> > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ >> > >> > >> >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >> >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >> >> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >> [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:29:56 -0500 I am 15 years of age, by the way. I work at a local computer store. PC and N64 all the way. I am right now listening to the Red Alert Sound Track CD. I am big into all the extra 'otaku' stuff. CDs and toys. Money is good, buy stuff. Hey, if you live on long island, come over for a lan party..... >So where do you get your money from? Your PARENTS. So you really do >not have ANY buying power. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 22:39:08 -0600 What are you using to measure your TV's? 9 inch to 27 inch are the most common, above 27 inches is not as common. (But that is changing as the prices of TV's come down.) > Jeremy Tocher wrote: > > I feel good.... > Uh, I don't actually ever remember seeing a TV smaller than 30". > My parents have a 30", there is a 60" in the family room, and this one > down here is the 54 or 59 that I was talking about. > I didn't know TV's went that small... > 25 inches? > What the? > whoa... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Rabbit Slim > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Date: Saturday, February 07, 1998 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? > > You spoiled little BRAT! Only 30 inches! That's huge > compared to some peoples! > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 23:41:25 -0500 >How is the GXtv or something like that, the one that is designed for games? >I know it can hook up to like 4 tv's, but I want to know more. From what I can see, it's just a 13" composite monitor with big speakers-- nothing big at all. DEFINITELY not worth $300! :( Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 23:42:49 -0500 >I don't think so... >that is only if you pause it, or keep the image still >whether it is a game or a movie or tv, the screen doesn't know the >difference, so they all do the same thing >watching the listings channel (the one with all the times and shows) does >just as much harm >you don't know what you are talking about You're the one that doesn't know what you're talking about-- sure it can happen with all the stuff, but with VGs, it's much more likely-- everything on the screen isn't always moving like in a movie/TV show. >oh, and if it did happen to damage it, and I am wrong, then I could just buy >a new one Sure-- rich kid who can throw around $3,000? Nice to have known ya. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 23:43:39 -0500 > I feel good.... ". "" in the family room, and this one down here is >the 54 or 59 that I was talking about. I didn't know TV's went that >small... 25 inches? What the? whoa... -----Original Message----- I think there should be a rule against bragging. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 07 Feb 1998 23:47:01 -0500 >What are you using to measure your TV's? Maybe he's measuring in Centimeters... hehe >9 inch to 27 inch are the most common, above 27 inches is not as >common. (But that is changing as the prices of TV's come down.) Actually, I'd say 13" to 27" are most common. 9" are usually more expensive than 13" even! Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 08 Feb 1998 10:02:33 -0500 Well said....I happen to be a mature, precocious,12 year old, that is abo= ut the least popular boy in my grade at school. I mention this because I don't care about being "cool", and about liking a "gay, kiddy" game lik= e DKR. It's fun...so what is the problem with it? If I have a craving for violence, I watch my favorite movie of all time, Pulp Fiction.= ..

raider fan wrote:

Emerson Mounger wrote:
>
> You can=92t possably think that games like Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo= -Kazooie,
> Conkers Quest, and Yoshi=92s Story don=92t cater to the younger aud= ience and
> that games like Resident Evil 2 or even Final Fantasy VII don=92t c= ater to
> the older audience. I believe that Nintendo themselves said that they
> target players from ages 6-14.
>
Actually, I would say that NINTENDO caters to Adults and Children.&nbs= p; Sony
caters to teenagers, and college students.
Most Adults (maybe over 23?) don't NEED to have sex/blood to make a game
good. (not that I don't like sex/blood...). Basically, as older gamers
- we are mor likely to judge a game on its entertainment value.
So most of the "kiddy" games, are actually fun for anyone - but they are
not "cool" enough for the teenagers to like.
I had this problem when I worked at a community center summer program, I
was in charge of the 12 to 16 age group. This group of kids was too
"cool" to play the kid games but to immature to be given the
responsibility of adults.
SONY seems to have a core audience of 14 - 24 year olds, and Nintendo
tries to have games that appeal to EVERYONE.
Just my observations though, as a 25 year old gamer with more than 17
years of video gaming experience.
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1) Educational CD-ROMS/BOOKS (Ex. Learn C++, Study for the SAT's, etc.)
2) My magazine subscription RENEWELS
3) Food
4) Clothing
Tim Danko wrote:

No, NO! I don't get my money from my pearents, when i have birthdays and
christmas i get about 100 each time. i spen that, when it is not that
season, i have my ways of making money......... and hey, what works works, i
usually have cash, about 20dollars. but the thing is it doesn't come from my
pearents.    you can't just stero type all kids under the age of 18, as
being "solely dependat on their pearents."
please dont wast the lists time with this pointless arguement. if you want
to talk about this, send me a mail at
dankonrt@bright.net
~Flash
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From: raider fan <raider@the-link.net>
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing.
Date: Sat, Feb 7, 1998, 8:25 PM
Flash wrote:
> or exclude anyone. about the buying power, ya adults have it more that
kids,
> but i bought my n64, and all but 2 games i have. i bought the mem pac and
the
> extra controller my self. i paid for about a quarter of the "Family"
computer,
> i buy my own cd's, eletronics in gemeral. I but components for eletronics,
and
> add ons. my point here is that adults have the buying power, but they
don't
> have to use it. don't get the wrong idea about me, i ain't a spoiled rich
kid,
> i save my money. i don't have a job, or an allounce. i am not a drug
pusher
So where do you get your money from? Your PARENTS. So you really do
not have ANY buying power.
The only people with buying power are the people who earn their own
money. I have enough buying power to buy a house, a car, clothing,
food, furniture, pets, and I still have a N64 and 14 games. And I by no
means earn a lot of money, as the Military does not pay that well. But
my wife and I do well, and we enjoy MANY MANY games, regardless of who
people think they are "aimed" at.
People like to criticize (i can't spell.. I know) but Nintendo AND Sony
are making plenty of money. They both know that there is only one group
of people with money - the adults. The difference is how you get the
money from the adults. Some adults buy for ourselves, others buy for
our children. Either way - we do buy video games!
What a great time it is for the Video game industry! I just wish games
would focus less on the way they "look" and more on the way they "play".
Like the good old days....
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Wait...It's only 13 inches? Why the he11 would a tv for gaming be only 13"? And if I its 52" (four 13" monitors) how the he11 is it NOT worth $300?

Derek Kalweit wrote:

>How is the GXtv or something like that, the one that is designed for games?
>I know it can hook up to like 4 tv's, but I want to know more.
>From what I can see, it's just a 13" composite monitor with big speakers--
nothing big at all. DEFINITELY not worth $300! :(
Derek Kalweit
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[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Websites Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:42:26 -0800 Are there any good PAL websites out there? Is there any decent PAL release lists? Is anyone out there? Am I alone? Oh, I am talking to, myself. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Website Updated Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:57:25 -0800 Nurgatomic Dustbin has updated. We have a new ISS 64 review and part one of a James Bond Feature. Also, a new Mace reader review and a preview of Zelda 64 has finally been added. Please vote for us in the TOP 100 N64 websites. Thank you very much. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:04:35 -0500 At 06:28 PM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: > You spoiled little BRAT! Only 30 inches! That's huge compared to some >peoples! Geezus that's big. I look forward to going over to my friend's houses to play on a 27"...I guess us po' folk aren't meant to see big games. :) ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 19:03:21 -0800 Are TV's cheap in America. In the UK people regularly have little more tan 15" in bedrooms and in the living room about 21". Although I know one person with a 72" home cinema screen that is beside the point. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:13:52 -0500 >When I got my stereo, I made SURE it had them. Actually, I kinda got the stereo from my friend. Freebies rule, and beggars can't be choosers. I need to get a job, instead of waiting for more freebies...I'm just too lazy. ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:18:44 -0500 At 11:22 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: > I feel good.... ". "" in the family room, and this one down here is >the 54 or 59 that I was talking about. I didn't know TV's went that >small... 25 inches? What the? whoa... Christ! Are you related to Bill Gates or something? Maybe you're involved in illegal activities, or your parents might be. People are out starving in the streets, and this kid's got a theatre in his house! The injustice! ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike.meyer@tznet.com Subject: [N64] NAGANO WINTER OLYMP Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:25:11 -0600 > Hey all. I went out this afternoon and picked up Nagano Winter Olympics > 98, and it's pretty good. The graphics and sound is stunning, but as I > read in reviews, the game control is the major flaw of the game, even > though the control isn't ALL that bad. It's still a great game > though....what does everyone else think of it? watch out! here comes Rip Van Mag7Mike :) I know I haven't posted in ..... two months? Oh well. I have a PSX and a N64, and I am wondering which Nagano Winter Olympics game to buy. I hear that the PSX version has more sports, and different controls, not to mention not-as-good graphics. (However, I would suspect that the PSX version is cheaper) Anybody that has played both, which should I buy? Mag7Mike mag7mike@hotmail.com (I don't know WHY this mike.meyer@tznet.com address is working all of a sudden...but I like it :) I can't take it for granted though) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike.meyer@tznet.com Subject: RE: [N64] ZELDA 64..... Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:30:30 -0600 >> Just thought i let those of you who didnt know, you can now pre-purchase >> Zelda 64 at software ect. and other related video game stores. I reserved >> my copy today, you should to if you want to get your hands on it. It's >> gonna be a HOT SELLER !!! =) > That's quite interesting. If you can reserve it now, that could possibly > mean that it's coming out here sooner than we think. Or, stores are just > trying to make a little extra cash. Just thought I would add, that in the Fall/Winter 1997 Sears Cataloge, you could pre-order Mission: Impossible for the N64. It took quite a while later for it to come out. Nintendo Power magazine has Zelda 64's release listed as Fall '98 (I can still remember when it was "Fall '97") sigh... Mag7Mike [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike.meyer@tznet.com Subject: [N64] Wizpig Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:35:53 -0600 > Has anyone beaten Wizpig the first time without using Drumstick? > > Dave C. My cousin beat him using Tiptup. My intial reation was "yeah, right!" (paraphrased ;) ) Mag7Mike [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flash " Subject: Re: [N64] Wizpig Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:27:45 -0500 I beat Wizpig 1 using tiptup also, he was the best character IMO. ~Flash mike.meyer@tznet.com wrote: > > Has anyone beaten Wizpig the first time without using Drumstick? > > > > Dave C. > > My cousin beat him using Tiptup. My intial reation was "yeah, right!" > (paraphrased ;) ) > > Mag7Mike > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] Wizpig Date: 08 Feb 1998 20:44:01 -0800 mike.meyer@tznet.com wrote: > > > Has anyone beaten Wizpig the first time without using Drumstick? > > > > Dave C. > > My cousin beat him using Tiptup. My intial reation was "yeah, right!" > (paraphrased ;) ) > > Mag7Mike I beat that darn Wizpig with the Monkey Boy (diddy)! -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Interviews Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:46:17 -0800 Anyone know which companies would be willing to do an interview for my website?? If so, how do I contact them?? -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacob H. Forstater" Subject: [N64] Mission Impossible Date: 08 Feb 1998 16:48:04 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BD34B1.53893A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will come out? it's last = release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out again!!! -Jacob _______________________________________________________________________ Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ=3D 5149409 ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BD34B1.53893A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will = come out?=20 it's last release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out = again!!!

-Jacob
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------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BD34B1.53893A80-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] Mission Impossible Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:51:44 -0800 Jacob H. Forstater wrote: > > Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will come out? it's last release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out again!!! > > -Jacob > _______________________________________________________________________ > Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, > jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org > ICQ= 5149409 > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will come out? it's last > release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out again!!! > > > -Jacob > _______________________________________________________________________ > Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, > jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org > ICQ= 5149409 > > A very long time, it seems. It may be AUGUST or even later. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:26:01 -0500 hey, I am just joking around of course I don' t have enough money to buy a tv whenever I want! and I have been using this projection tv with games for around 5 years, and I do not have any problems.. so, theoretically, yes, it can burn in, but I have yet to see it and plus, we are talking about an older model projection tv, newer ones are totally safe -----Original Message----- >>I don't think so... >>that is only if you pause it, or keep the image still >>whether it is a game or a movie or tv, the screen doesn't know the >>difference, so they all do the same thing >>watching the listings channel (the one with all the times and shows) does >>just as much harm >>you don't know what you are talking about > >You're the one that doesn't know what you're talking about-- sure it can >happen with all the stuff, but with VGs, it's much more likely-- everything >on the screen isn't always moving like in a movie/TV show. > > >>oh, and if it did happen to damage it, and I am wrong, then I could just buy >>a new one > >Sure-- rich kid who can throw around $3,000? Nice to have known ya. > > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:27:24 -0500 people brag when they hide their problems i am lucky that my parents gave me this tv, very, and I thank them greatly for that but this computer is all my doing I build them (not too hard, anyone can) -----Original Message----- >> I feel good.... ". "" in the family room, and this one down here is >>the 54 or 59 that I was talking about. I didn't know TV's went that >>small... 25 inches? What the? whoa... -----Original Message----- > >I think there should be a rule against bragging. > > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:30:24 -0500 yeah my employer has a huge theatre in his basement big projection thingie plays movies there oh, and pretty much every electronic is cheaper here, in general -----Original Message----- >Are TV's cheap in America. In the UK people regularly have little more >tan 15" in bedrooms and in the living room about 21". > >Although I know one person with a 72" home cinema screen that is beside >the point. >-- >Sam >Nurgatomic Dustbin >www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:34:50 -0500 wait this is not good I don't measure mine, I just remember from when I bought it 2 projections and one large tube let me get out the ruler, and measure in inches ah this one down here is 46" diagonally the one upstairs is 48" and my parents have a 27" okay, not that bad so I guess i have misled everyone, sorry about that yeah, so now i have to rephrase myself, "I can't imagine how people can play on a tv smaller than 20" that is like a computer monitor (which is only 15" for me, getting a 17" soon!!) -----Original Message----- >At 06:28 PM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >> You spoiled little BRAT! Only 30 inches! That's huge compared to some >>peoples! > >Geezus that's big. I look forward to going over to my friend's houses to >play on a 27"...I guess us po' folk aren't meant to see big games. :) > >============================== >Tippyman >http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy >tippyman@erols.com > "Skankin' be fun." >============================== > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:39:24 -0500 knowing bill would be great my boss spoke to bill a few times, when he was the tech support for the altair.... but that this beside the point, as well as way way beside the N64 point whoa N64 list hello (Mind starts clicking and beeping, "initiate N64 gaming mode") ah yes too bad I have nothing to say as of yet see, I have quake2 on my mind yeah, about quake, what does one think of quake64? there is in no way that I get it, because I have something much better, voodoo powered right here does it look any good? it seems only decent to me -----Original Message----- >At 11:22 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I feel good.... ". "" in the family room, and this one down here is >>the 54 or 59 that I was talking about. I didn't know TV's went that >>small... 25 inches? What the? whoa... > >Christ! Are you related to Bill Gates or something? Maybe you're involved >in illegal activities, or your parents might be. People are out starving in >the streets, and this kid's got a theatre in his house! The injustice! > >============================= >Tippyman >http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy >tippyman@erols.com > Boycott MTV! >============================= > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:41:32 -0500 Well...20 inches is about as low as it goes comfortably, but for 8 years I played on a 13"...Of course, there wasn't much split-screen back in those days...

Jeremy Tocher wrote:

wait
this is not good
I don't measure mine, I just remember from when I bought it
2 projections and one large tube
let me get out the ruler, and measure in inches
ah
this one down here is 46" diagonally
the one upstairs is 48"
and my parents have a 27"
okay, not that bad
so I guess i have misled everyone, sorry about that
yeah, so now i have to rephrase myself,
"I can't imagine how people can play on a tv smaller than 20"
that is like a computer monitor
(which is only 15" for me, getting a 17" soon!!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Tippyman <tippyman@erols.com>
To: n64@lists.xmission.com <n64@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs?
>At 06:28 PM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> You spoiled little BRAT! Only 30 inches! That's huge compared to some
>>peoples!
>
>Geezus that's big. I look forward to going over to my friend's houses to
>play on a 27"...I guess us po' folk aren't meant to see big games. :)
>
>==============================
>Tippyman
>http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy
>tippyman@erols.com
>    "Skankin' be fun."
>==============================
>
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[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: [N64] Question (how blunt a subject is that) Date: 08 Feb 1998 05:42:11 -0500 Okay, I have a question.. How does someone not have the internet, but is on this list? I thought about it, and the answer could be that they use a free service like Juno, or are on a BBS, so that seems fair. But then, I see people saying "I will get Quake64 because I don' t have a computer, and I am not in the market to spend $2000 to get one." uh... it is very very hard to mimic digital code with your voice over the phone line, to get ANY service to work how is this? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] Question (how blunt a subject is that) Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:45:38 -0500 I suppose its possible that people use such things as network computers, or school computers, or work computers. Is that correct?

Jeremy Tocher wrote:

Okay, I have a question..
How does someone not have the internet, but is on this list?
I thought about it, and the answer could be that they use a free service
like Juno, or are on a BBS, so that seems fair.
But then, I see people saying "I will get Quake64 because I don' t have a
computer, and I am not in the market to spend $2000 to get one."
uh...
it is very very hard to mimic digital code with your voice over the phone
line, to get ANY service to work
how is this?
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-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Jack Rabbit Slim <ti64@mindspring.com>
To:= =20 n64@lists.xmission.com=20 <n64@lists.xmission.com>
= Date:=20 Sunday, February 08, 1998 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] = Question=20 (how blunt a subject is that)

I suppose its = possible=20 that people use such things as network computers, or school = computers, or=20 work computers. Is that correct? = ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD3459.1C0A1B40-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:49:58 -0500 > Wait...It's only 13 inches? Why the he11 would a tv for gaming be only >13"? And if I its 52" (four 13" monitors) how the he11 is it NOT worth >$300? Derek Kalweit wrote: >How is the GXtv or something like that, the >one that is designed for games? Try doing the math-- 4 13" monitors would only be 26" Sorry to burst your bubble, but TVs/monitors are measured DIAGONALLY! Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:50:50 -0500 >Are TV's cheap in America. In the UK people regularly have little more >tan 15" in bedrooms and in the living room about 21". > >Although I know one person with a 72" home cinema screen that is beside >the point. They're not that cheap-- a 13" costs about $150(about 250 pounds I think), and a 25-27" is about twice that. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: Re: [N64] NAGANO WINTER OLYMP Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:26:35 +0000 > From: mike.meyer@tznet.com > Organization: T-NET, Inc. > Date: Sun, 08 Feb 98 14:25:11 -0600 > Subject: [N64] NAGANO WINTER OLYMP > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Reply-to: n64@lists.xmission.com > > > > Hey all. I went out this afternoon and picked up Nagano Winter Olympics > > 98, and it's pretty good. The graphics and sound is stunning, but as I > > read in reviews, the game control is the major flaw of the game, even > > though the control isn't ALL that bad. It's still a great game > > though....what does everyone else think of it? > > watch out! here comes Rip Van Mag7Mike :) I know I haven't posted in ..... > two months? Oh well. > > I have a PSX and a N64, and I am wondering which Nagano Winter Olympics game to > buy. I hear that the PSX version has more sports, and different controls, not > to mention not-as-good graphics. (However, I would suspect that the PSX > version is cheaper) Anybody that has played both, which should I buy? > > Mag7Mike mag7mike@hotmail.com > (I don't know WHY this mike.meyer@tznet.com address is working all of a > sudden...but I like it :) I can't take it for granted though) > I've heard that their both pretty bad, but if you really want to get one get the N64 version which is a little better. Later.. Zig (ICQ UIN: 606350) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AvidGamePlayer@webtv.net (Tim Howe) Subject: [N64] S-video Date: 08 Feb 1998 19:14:35 -0500 Hello fellow gamers...Do any of you have your N64's hooked up via S-video? I have a DVD player and I am in total awe as far as the total SUPERIOR picture quality. I have compared the S-video to the regular RCA jacks (yellow, red and white) and S-video makes a HUGE difference. I was just wondering it it makes a HUGE difference with the N64 as well. I recently seen S-video plugs for sale at my local Electronics Boutique for the N64 for about 15 bucks, and I wanted to know if it was worth it....THANKS!!!!!! God bless! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: [N64] NES Games on N64 Date: 08 Feb 1998 19:18:32 +0000 Hey everyone.. What Nintendo games would you like to see a sequel to for the N64? For me I would love to see sequels to Punch-Out, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Contra, and umm.. that's all I can think of now. Later. Zig [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 08 Feb 1998 20:41:42 -0500 Oh yeah...I forgot

Derek Kalweit wrote:

>    Wait...It's only 13 inches? Why the he11 would a tv for gaming be only
>13"? And if I its 52" (four 13" monitors) how the he11 is it NOT worth
>$300?    Derek Kalweit wrote: >How is the GXtv or something like that, the
>one that is designed for games?
Try doing the math-- 4 13" monitors would only be 26" <G> Sorry to burst
your bubble, but TVs/monitors are measured DIAGONALLY!
Derek Kalweit
Email: dkalweit@eznet.net
Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/
NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/
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[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSE-OF-PAIN@webtv.net (Bill C.) Subject: Re: [N64] Wizpig Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:48:38 -0800 --WebTV-Mail-478447282-2329 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I beat him using Diddy. He's the only character I use. --WebTV-Mail-478447282-2329 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <9802081435.0KIA800@tznet.com> Organization: T-NET, Inc. X-Mailer: TBBS/TIGER v1.0 Sender: owner-n64@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Has anyone beaten Wizpig the first time without using Drumstick? > > Dave C. My cousin beat him using Tiptup. My intial reation was "yeah, right!" (paraphrased ;) ) Mag7Mike [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] --WebTV-Mail-478447282-2329-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] S-video Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:43:08 -0600 It's worth it. Tim Howe wrote: > > Hello fellow gamers...Do any of you have your N64's hooked up via > S-video? I have a DVD player and I am in total awe as far as the total > SUPERIOR picture quality. I have compared the S-video to the regular RCA > jacks (yellow, red and white) and S-video makes a HUGE difference. I was > just wondering it it makes a HUGE difference with the N64 as well. I > recently seen S-video plugs for sale at my local Electronics Boutique > for the N64 for about 15 bucks, and I wanted to know if it was worth > it....THANKS!!!!!! God bless! > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Dickson Subject: Re: [N64] Nagano Winter Olympics Date: 08 Feb 1998 23:23:28 -0600 To save you the agonizing pain of whether or not to buy this game, let me give you this advice: DON'T!!!. The game is hardly worth renting either. You may be able to compete in different competitions in the Olympics, but #1) It's really slow gaming, even the bobsled and Giant Slalom are slow #2) The graphics seem a little grainy and what not. #3) The sound is really corny. #4) Not to mention the fact that the control for most events is completely out of whack and just doesn't give smooth control in events that should have good control. So don't bother. This game is completely NOT worth it. And I'll be giving my full review this week at www.gamenation.base.org so make sure to look for it! -Asha'man_X Editor-In-Chief and Webmaster Game Nation http://www.gamenation.base.org mike.meyer@tznet.com wrote: > Does anybody know how long Nagano Winter Olympics will be in the stores? I > highly doubt it will last until June, but I'm on a REALLY tight budget right > now, and even $50 would be a considerable drop. :( However, if I HAVE to get > it before then, then I WILL! :) > > Mag7Mike > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Dent Subject: [N64] Nagano Winter Olympics Date: 09 Feb 1998 00:42:14 -0500 Actually I beleive this game is pretty good. The control on the ski jump is a little hard to manage, but otherwise, the rest is not bad. It reminds me a lot of the arcade Track and Field. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: [N64] S-VHS Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:08:05 +1100 ::: AvidGamePlayer@webtv.net ::: 9/2/98 11:14 AM=81 ::: <___- >Hello fellow gamers...Do any of you have your N64's hooked up via >S-video? Well, I plugged my SNES S-VHS lead, which has worked superbly with = the SNES, into my N64 and the video signal ended up all corrupted and = psychadelic. The lead is a taiwanese import, so maybe Nin deliberatly = placed some kind of signal block for the N64... The SNES and N64 = multiouts both appear to be identical, so I don't know what could be = at fault. You can imagine my agony when I came home from town, N64 and the = three release games under the arm, and the stupid S-VHS lead freaks = out on me! I ran to the A/V store! :) _ emile +3 (plus three) says: !ABORT_RETRY_FAIL! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grzegorz Kosno Subject: RE: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 08:31:36 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3535.96791B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He might be telling truth about the size, 54-59 inches... But, what I want to know is: 1. How much did that elephant TV cost?! 2. Who made it? 3. Did you really measure in inches (no, it's not a joke!)? By the way, I am 23 years and have 34 inch TV. It's a Grundig which is over 5 years old. Grzegorz Kosno acegrex@polbox.com >>What are you using to measure your TV's? >Maybe he's measuring in Centimeters... hehe > >>9 inch to 27 inch are the most common, above 27 inches is not as >>common. 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Date: 09 Feb 1998 08:31:48 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3535.AD0EA980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, you DO have a job then??!? >I am 15 years of age, by the way. >I work at a local computer store. >PC and N64 all the way. >I am right now listening to the Red Alert Sound Track CD. >I am big into all the extra 'otaku' stuff. >CDs and toys. >Money is good, buy stuff. >Hey, if you live on long island, come over for a lan party..... >>So where do you get your money from? Your PARENTS. So you really do >>not have ANY buying power. 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Not that you lose anything amortant, but when I switch to my 27", I can tell. 2) The TV started making an annoying popping sound when I turn it off. It is harmless, but annoying. Otherwise, it is fine, but probably overpriced. If you don't need a small TV, you can probably get a bigger one for the same price. Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] S-video Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:04:08 -0600 I compared S-video on my 27" sony, to normal RCA connections. No appreciable difference(to my eyes) Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 08:15:39 PST Ummm, Don't feel bad. I have played games on 13" and 19" tvs i my house. The largest size screen we have is 27" but I don't like the resolution on that screen. For picture quality, I play my games on a 13" 10-year old Commodore monitor. The only drawback is the mono sound, but I usually hook the audio up to my stereo and put on headphones for the full effect ( and so people don't bother me....:) ) Elliot > >I have like a 7 year old 13" tv. mono. when i hit the power button only the >sound turns off, >and the picture stays. the biggest tv in my house is 19" so i guess yall are >the lucky ones. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [N64] What is Age...Well.... Date: 09 Feb 1998 08:46:42 PST It's amazing, when you think about it too. For example, I ve gone from Asteroids and Defender, which I played to death, to Colony Wars. Or, from The Empire Strikes Back on the Atri 2600 to Shadows of the Empire. There's a saying that you can't appreciate where you are until you know where you've come from.Hmm..... Elliot >I know what you mean. I'm only 17, but I'm a classic VG collector, and I >can really appreciate the excellent graphics/sound of the newer games, but >also find the gameplay lacking sometimes-- especially RE-playability. :( >And I know what you mean about their little brothers/sister/cousins-- even >kids just a few years younger than me, I can see MAJOR attitude >differences, towards VGs.. :( > > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] Question (how blunt a subject is that) Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:11:13 -0800 Jeremy Tocher wrote: > > Okay, I have a question.. > How does someone not have the internet, but is on this list? > I thought about it, and the answer could be that they use a free service > like Juno, or are on a BBS, so that seems fair. > But then, I see people saying "I will get Quake64 because I don' t have a > computer, and I am not in the market to spend $2000 to get one." > uh... > it is very very hard to mimic digital code with your voice over the phone > line, to get ANY service to work > > how is this? > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] Some people may have an email account at school, university or whatever where games and internet are restricted or prohibited. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:13:07 -0800 Derek Kalweit wrote: >=20 > >Are TV's cheap in America. In the UK people regularly have little mor= e > >tan 15" in bedrooms and in the living room about 21". > > > >Although I know one person with a 72" home cinema screen that is besid= e > >the point. >=20 > They're not that cheap-- a 13" costs about $150(about 250 pounds I thin= k), > and a 25-27" is about twice that. >=20 > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ >=20 > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]$15= 0 is about =A375 not =A3250 so they are cheaper over in AMERICA --=20 Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] Important Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:15:07 -0800 The website I work for has lined up a couple of interviews with ALTUS (Snowboard Kids) and ZED TWO (Wetrix) and we are wondering if any of you on the mailing list have any questions that you want us to put to them? -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:19:05 -0500 >> >Are TV's cheap in America. In the UK people regularly have little more >> >tan 15" in bedrooms and in the living room about 21". >> > >> >Although I know one person with a 72" home cinema screen that is beside >> >the point. >>=20 >> They're not that cheap-- a 13" costs about $150(about 250 pounds I= think), >> and a 25-27" is about twice that. $150 is about =A375 not =A3250 so they are cheaper over in AMERICA Yes-- my mistake-- I went up instead of down. I'm so used to converting pounds to $-- that's why. Derek Kalweit =20 Email: dkalweit@eznet.net =20 Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ =20 NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dash91284@aol.com Subject: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:03:51 EST Has anyone tried gaming on the new Phillips MAGNAVOX TV that is like 4 inches thick yet has a screen of, like, 50 inches? I saw one toda in Best Buy, and it seems like it'd be a kick @$$ screen to play on. But who really has the room to put somthing like that up? Just another case of the fact that just because things are smaller and more compact dosen't mean they're better. ~Dash [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s_truth@juno.com (Stuart R Norton) Subject: Re: [N64] Important Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:26:02 -0500 Will either of the companies be producing any 64DD games?and if so what type of games will they be? Will wetrix have a 4-player mode? Also what other games are you planning cart or otherwise? Seeing_truth s_truth@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] Nagano Winter Olympics Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:42:03 -0500 I'm sorry, but I totally disagree. i went out and bought thew game about a week ago and I love it. It depends on what type of gamer you are...you are probably not a "sports" games player, and that's why you don't like it. The graphics are awesome, the sound totally ROCKS (the crowd cheers, your ice skates against the ice, the wind when skiing), and I think the control is pretty good once you get the hang of it. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ForeverJD@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:40:25 EST I saw it on tv (no pun intended) and the screen size was 44 inches.I think the advantage was or is no more taking up floor space. Now just wall mount your tv like a picture.If you don't like it there try another wall.Perfect for those wireless remotes! JD [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: [N64] hdtv and the n64 Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:40:32 -0600 two months ago, the high definition tv system was broadcasted, for the fi= rst time, here in mexico, being mexico, the 4rth countrie. now, my question is as follows: supposedly, the n64=B4s visuals are "limited by tv standards," so, would = it be possible to get better graphics on an hdtv, (5 inches longer,), while pla= ying games on the n64? Michael Bauers wrote: > I have two problems with the GX TV. > 1) The whole picture is not on the screen, and the TV contains no adjus= tment > to make sure it does. Not that you lose anything amortant, but when I > switch to my 27", I can tell. > 2) The TV started making an annoying popping sound when I turn it off. = It > is harmless, but annoying. > > Otherwise, it is fine, but probably overpriced. If you don't need a sm= all > TV, you can probably get a bigger one for the same price. > > Michael Bauers > DGS > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: Re: [N64] Important Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:42:03 -0600 hey, how did u get the chance to interview them? Stuart R Norton wrote: > Will either of the companies be producing any 64DD games?and if so what > type > of games will they be? > > Will wetrix have a 4-player mode? > > Also what other games are you planning cart or otherwise? > Seeing_truth > s_truth@juno.com > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siemon Subject: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:50:49 +0100 hey all, Is it just me or is this list loosing his quality for the past few weeks/months? I never am as excited as I was a while ago reading the mails from the mailingslist. I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain weekly topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? ok, just my thoughts, yours sincerely, -Siemon siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl ICQ= 5750532 Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, http://www.gamenation.base.org [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] Important Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:55:41 -0500 And how will you interview them? Chat, phone, or in person? felp wrote: > hey, how did u get the chance to interview them? > > Stuart R Norton wrote: > > > Will either of the companies be producing any 64DD games?and if so what > > type > > of games will they be? > > > > Will wetrix have a 4-player mode? > > > > Also what other games are you planning cart or otherwise? > > Seeing_truth > > s_truth@juno.com > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > -- > felp, > http://members.xoom.com/felp/ > fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx > ICQ UIN: 2684048 > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Danko" Subject: [N64] $40 N64 games Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:54:17 -0500 Uh, I have a question, about the 40 dollar games, starfox inparticularly, i have heared that it comes with a rumble pak, and that it doesn't. can someone confirm either statement? ~Flash _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] $40 N64 games Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:59:31 -0500 At 03:54 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >Uh, I have a question, about the 40 dollar games, starfox inparticularly, i >have heared that it comes with a rumble pak, and that it doesn't. can >someone confirm either statement? In NP, it says it didn't. There ya go. ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re: [N64] $40 N64 games Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:59:44 +0000 dankonrt@mail.bright.net,Internet writes: >Uh, I have a question, about the 40 dollar games, starfox inparticularly, >i >have heared that it comes with a rumble pak, and that it doesn't. can >someone confirm either statement? > The Starfox that you see for sale for $40 does NOT come with the rumble pack. Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] $40 N64 games Date: 09 Feb 1998 16:02:22 -0500 it does not Tim Danko wrote: > Uh, I have a question, about the 40 dollar games, starfox inparticularly, i > have heared that it comes with a rumble pak, and that it doesn't. can > someone confirm either statement? > > ~Flash > > _ _____________________________ _ > / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ > / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ > _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ > (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| (\\\\ \_/ / -oOOO--(_)--OOOo- \ \_/ ////) > \ / \ / > \ _/ \_ / > / / \ \ > /___/ http://www.surf.to/n64news \___\ > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] $40 N64 games Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:00:49 -0800 Emerson Mounger wrote: > > dankonrt@mail.bright.net,Internet writes: > >Uh, I have a question, about the 40 dollar games, starfox inparticularly, > >i > >have heared that it comes with a rumble pak, and that it doesn't. can > >someone confirm either statement? > > > The Starfox that you see for sale for $40 does NOT come with the rumble > pack. > > Emerson It does seem unlikely that Nintendo could afford to provide the 'rumbler' with Starfox at that price. > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: [N64] Mission Impossible Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:06:41 -0700 > Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will come out? it's last >release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out again!!! Yeah, I'm waiting for that one too. I just hope it's gonna beat the pants out of goldeneye (well, then it will be a pretty good game wont it). Maybe it will. What I've read about it sounds very good. But it al depends on how they wil put it into the game. When I first heard about GE, I thought that it were all cool ideas, but that it was hard to make them work in a game. Rare did it though. IF Infogrames is gonna make their ideas work, they'll have a game that'll certainly be much better then GE, imo. We'll see though. kleinemans ______________________________________________________________________ |* Html designer of Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org | |* Free lance computernerd | |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| |_____________________________________________________________________| [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:12:10 +0000 There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD will see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you thin= k that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won=92t? Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: felp Subject: Re: [N64] Mission Impossible Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:09:43 -0600 but mi is a totally different from ge00/ i think it is not even a 1st person shooter! on a side note, mission: impossible: 2 is allready in the drawing boards! Gregory A. Swarthout wrote: > From: kleinemans > > > Does anyone know when Mission Impossible 64 will come out? it's last > >release date was Dec. 26 but it has not come out again!!! > > Yeah, I'm waiting for that one too. I just hope it's gonna beat the pants > out of goldeneye (well, then it will be a pretty good game wont it). Maybe > it will. What I've read about it sounds very good. But it al depends on how > they wil put it into the game. When I first heard about GE, I thought that > it were all cool ideas, but that it was hard to make them work in a game. > Rare did it though. IF Infogrames is gonna make their ideas work, they'll > have a game that'll certainly be much better then GE, imo. We'll see though. > > kleinemans > > ______________________________________________________________________ > |* Html designer of Game Nation: http://www.gamenation.base.org | > |* Free lance computernerd | > |* Gaming when not doing the two best things in life (mentioned above)| > |_____________________________________________________________________| > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] -- felp, http://members.xoom.com/felp/ fegarcia@mail.internet.com.mx ICQ UIN: 2684048 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Danko" Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 16:15:09 -0500 >There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD will >see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you think >that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won?t? >Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? > >Emerson > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > Without facing any delays, the 64DD is expected to come out here in the US. if it does indeed comeout, then yes i plan to buy it. ~Flash _ _____________________________ _ / )| Tim Danko UIN# 5174647 |( \ / / | dankonrt@bright.net | \ \ _( (_ | " \\|// " | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->________(o o)________<-\_| Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:14:10 -0800 Emerson Mounger wrote: >=20 > There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD wil= l > see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you th= ink > that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won=92t= ? > Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? >=20 > Emerson >=20 > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] Of course N64DD will be released in the USA. It is the only viable=20 market to release it in. It will come to Japan but only as a show for=20 what N128 will be like. In Europe I doubt we will see the magic of DD=20 but, I may import one as I really want Mother 3. --=20 Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] My Site Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:22:45 -0800 Anyone checked out the DKR vs Mario Kart feature on Nurgatomic Dustbin yet? What do you think? -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: [N64] EH? Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:30:07 -0800 What is the difference in time between UK and US? -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nsixtfour@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 16:49:39 EST Well, I think it is going to come out, I mean they allready have a 64DD.com site plus people all over aer talking about it, Also I plan to buy it the first day it comes out, I've been saving my allwance for it :o) ~Nsixtfour@aol.com~ ~ICQ UIN #: 7258573~ ~LEADER OF NSIXTY4 GAMING CLUB~ ~The club that puts the N, into the 64~ ~E-Mail Nsixtfour@aol.com to join~ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bond6007@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] NAGANO WINTER OLYMP Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:15:14 EST Go to N64 Gazetta(www.n64gazetta.com)! They did a little special on which version is better about a week ago. Check it out. ~bond6007 In a message dated 98-02-08 15:13:47 EST, you write: << watch out! here comes Rip Van Mag7Mike :) I know I haven't posted in ..... two months? Oh well. I have a PSX and a N64, and I am wondering which Nagano Winter Olympics game to buy. I hear that the PSX version has more sports, and different controls, not to mention not-as-good graphics. (However, I would suspect that the PSX version is cheaper) Anybody that has played both, which should I buy? >> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp) Subject: Re: [N64] EH? Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:00 EST the difference in time between the uk and the us (eastern time zone) is 5 hours. The uk is ahead of the us by 5 hours [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 06:21:40 -0500 They are called Liquid Plasma Displays. Expensive, but faster refresh rates and larger size. Similar to LCD screens. -----Original Message----- >I saw it on tv (no pun intended) and the screen size was 44 inches.I think the >advantage was or is no more taking up floor space. Now just wall mount your tv >like a picture.If you don't like it there try another wall.Perfect for those >wireless remotes! > > > JD > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 09 Feb 1998 06:27:02 -0500 Yes, a very nice job. I build, service, and sell computers. Very entertaining. I work at a nice store called CompMart, here on long island. It is a nice thing, I can buy an N64 game every week, with around 40 bucks each week to spare. But I am also big into computers (obviously). I must buy more computers. My goal is to have a few networked, all but one are pentium level, for good voodoo games. But one of them will be Pentium2, and will kick every game along. I still think that Nintendo makes the best games around. I have never bought a Sony or Sega product. -----Original Message----- >So, you DO have a job then??!? > >>I am 15 years of age, by the way. >>I work at a local computer store. >>PC and N64 all the way. >>I am right now listening to the Red Alert Sound Track CD. >>I am big into all the extra 'otaku' stuff. >>CDs and toys. >>Money is good, buy stuff. >>Hey, if you live on long island, come over for a lan party..... > >>>So where do you get your money from? Your PARENTS. So you really do >>>not have ANY buying power. > >Grzegorz Kosno >acegrex@polbox.com > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Schmekle@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] A few more comments on this age thing. Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:31:24 EST I DONT WANT THAT SHIT ANYMORE [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] S-video Date: 09 Feb 1998 06:29:57 -0500 Svideo has the highest level of quality, which is known. The av cables, (red, white, and yellow) come next, but they are both pretty much the same. RF cables have very bad quality, noticeable at times. when connecting the VCR, use svideo, and your n64 should use av -----Original Message----- > >I compared S-video on my 27" sony, to normal RCA connections. No >appreciable difference(to my eyes) >Michael Bauers >DGS > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Rabbit Slim Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:41:36 -0500 Hey, man! I used to play on a 13" Commodore 64 monitor until my last birthday! And I hate this big sound system to hook it up to...Man, I can remember popping in PilotWings and blasting that theme music in stereo...Those were the days, when nobody cared about delays, and were just having fun being mesmorized!

E. Jefferson wrote:

<snip>I play my games on a 13" 10-year old Commodore
monitor. The only drawback is the mono sound, but I usually hook the
audio up to my stereo <snip>
Elliot
>
>I have like a 7 year old 13" tv. mono. when i hit the power button only
the
>sound turns off,
>and the picture stays. the biggest tv in my house is 19" so i guess
yall are
>the lucky ones.
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[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Dickson Subject: Re: [N64](X) 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:05:41 -0600 I don't know...I'm starting to get a little doubtful now. NCL looks at N= orth America as useless. We're not worthy of the 64DD in some way. What a lo= ad of crap (pardon my french). I can see why they would release it in Japan, s= ince the 64DD can make a whole lot of difference, but why not here? They woul= d make one hell of a killing with the already larger N64 user-base. When it is released here, I will definitely be in line to get it. -Asha'man_X Editor-In-Chief and Webmaster Game Nation http://www.gamenation.base.org Emerson Mounger wrote: > There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD wil= l > see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you th= ink > that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won=92t= ? > Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? > > Emerson > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kideo@juno.com (Winston Chan) Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:02:14 -0800 The list is really dying. It just to be 100 mails a day but it is now only 30. And what happened to all the people that talked a lot like Tippy. Winston Chan On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:50:49 +0100 Siemon writes: >hey all, > >Is it just me or is this list loosing his quality for the past few >weeks/months? I never am as excited as I was a while ago reading the >mails >from the mailingslist. > >I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain >weekly >topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk >anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting >discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? > >ok, just my thoughts, > > >yours sincerely, > > >-Siemon >siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl >ICQ= 5750532 > >Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, >http://www.gamenation.base.org > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:22:06 -0500 At 03:12 PM 2/9/98 +0000, you wrote: >There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD will >see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you thi= nk >that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won=92t? It will...they'd be crazy not to release it here. >Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? Sure, with some of the games comin' out on it. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Tippyman =20 http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy =20 tippyman@erols.com =20 Boycott MTV! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=20 =20 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: [N64] New Topic Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:27:07 -0500 I got a new topic, eh? What's your favorite game and why? My favorite game is FFVII (really, believe the hype...it's great!). I love the graphics, music, depth, everything! It sucked me in for 2 months of bleary-eyed late night playing. Great. FFIII is also very very good, it's much less linear. I like GE007 a lot also. But Final Fantasy VII is just better, IMO. ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: [N64] I totally agree Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:44:49 -0500 I love this list, but if I get one more e-mail about what size someone's TV is, my head will definitely explode. Who cares? I am especially disgusted with the bragging that goes on. Listen, if you are on the list it means that you (1) love videogames and (2) love to play them on the N64. That is it. I say these things not to be critical but rather to improve the list so that everyone is happy to see emails from the group. Brian Sinclair "That's my two cents, for whatever its worth." [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:51:10 -0700 >>I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain >>weekly >>topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk >>anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting >>discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? That is actually an excellent idea. The recent TV thread generated many responses; hopefully we can get the same type of response from more on-topic topics. OK, here's a few things anyone can comment on: -The American 64DD will not ship with a modem... Will this news affect your thoughts of the add-on? Will you definitely not buy it now? -What do you think about the lastability of N64 games? Yes, a lot of N64 games have good replay value but lastability is more important (to me) than replay value is. So far the only games I have felt gave me my money's worth are Mario 64 and Diddy Kong Racing, and possibly Blast Corps. My main gripe with the system is that most games are too short, and depend on you replaying the game or playing the game multiplayer (which sucks because games like Starfox 64 and Mario Kart 64 aren't really that fun multiplayer, but Goldeneye is awesome) to give you any value; I say the real value should come in the actual game. I think we need more cooperative games--the Diddy Kong Racing adventure mode is incredibly fun if you play it two player co-op, but is fun enough if you just play it one player. -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:52:52 -0500 Sam wrote: "Of course N64DD will be released in the USA. It is the only viable market to release it in. It will come to Japan but only as a show for what N128 will be like. In Europe I doubt we will see the magic of DD but, I may import one as I really want Mother 3." With all due respect Sam, no one is talking about 128bit systems in the near future. For whatever reason, a lot of people seem to assume that Nintendo's next gen system will double the bit technology like those in the past have. This is simply not the case as no one will be able to create a 128-bit chip at a cheap enough price in the next few years. While Nintendo was successful making a 64bit chip for the home market with the N64, the reality is that 64 bit processors are in their infant stage. Intel's next gen PC chips will be based on a 64 bit architecture as well. Nintendo will likely come up with a new system that uses 64-bit graphics but with the capability of rendering 10-20 times of the polygons that the N64 did. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:01:28 -0700 >I got a new topic, eh? What's your favorite game and why? Excellent topic. :) >My favorite game >is FFVII (really, believe the hype...it's great!). I love the graphics, >music, depth, everything! It sucked me in for 2 months of bleary-eyed late >night playing. Great. FFIII is also very very good, it's much less linear. I definitely agree, FFVII is an incredible game--it is just a *little* bit better than FF3, and is the best RPG ever (my opinion of FF3/FF7 changes every once in a while :) ). I'll just give a little list for each system: N64: Super Mario 64 Diddy Kong Racing Goldeneye Blast Corps. Looking forward to: Zelda 64 (duh), Banjo-Kazooie, Quest 64, and any other Rare games PSX: FFVII Monster Rancher (easily the most addictive game I've played) Resident Evil 1, 2 Final Fantasy Tactics Suikoden Wild Arms ALUNDRA Looking forward to: Square (SaGa Frontier, Xenogears, Einhander, Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy VIII, and everything else) Saturn: NiGHTS Dragon Force Albert Odyssey (Sp?) -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 09 Feb 1998 08:10:13 -0500 My favorite N64 game is Mario64, for the power and beauty that was instilled in me when I first played it. It inspired me and made me realize great things. I realize that nothing will ever come close to matching it's wonderfulness. It is loaded with replay value, and pretty much everyone I know can watch and play it. However, when everyone else is gone for bed, I load Quake2, which has a multiplayer game to die for. You ever played Goldeneye007? I am pretty sure you have. 4 players? Bah!! Try 32, all jumping around and screaming and in a level with so much detail and such vast size. Large levels, tons of strategy. I also liked Duke Nukem 3D near it's release, for similar reasons. Very comical. Oh, and although most gamers would laugh at this, I also think that Myst and Riven are my all time favorites, for you can play them at any time, and they are always fun to just explore, and see such beautiful things. Just moving around and seeing things. Once you don't play for a year or so, it becomes a whole new thing again. I must say that I am one of the few people who can appreciate it for what it is. I loved FZero for the SNES, the first racer I played. All the Nintendo games are great, period. Fun and addicting. I think that as far as board games go, Monopoly has it there. Oh, and don't forget solitaire!!! Quick and fun. -----Original Message----- >>I got a new topic, eh? What's your favorite game and why? > >Excellent topic. :) > >>My favorite game >>is FFVII (really, believe the hype...it's great!). I love the graphics, >>music, depth, everything! It sucked me in for 2 months of bleary-eyed late >>night playing. Great. FFIII is also very very good, it's much less linear. > >I definitely agree, FFVII is an incredible game--it is just a *little* bit >better than FF3, and is the best RPG ever (my opinion of FF3/FF7 changes >every once in a while :) ). I'll just give a little list for each system: > >N64: >Super Mario 64 >Diddy Kong Racing >Goldeneye >Blast Corps. >Looking forward to: Zelda 64 (duh), Banjo-Kazooie, Quest 64, and any other >Rare games > >PSX: >FFVII >Monster Rancher (easily the most addictive game I've played) >Resident Evil 1, 2 >Final Fantasy Tactics >Suikoden >Wild Arms >ALUNDRA >Looking forward to: Square (SaGa Frontier, Xenogears, Einhander, Parasite >Eve, Final Fantasy VIII, and everything else) > >Saturn: >NiGHTS >Dragon Force >Albert Odyssey (Sp?) > > >-Tyler V. Snow >tvsnow@usa.net > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: RE: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:12:57 -0500 Behalf Of Emerson Mounger > There has been a lot of talk recently about whether or not the 64DD will > see the light of day here in America. My question is how many of you think > that it will be released here and how many of you think that it won�t? > Also, if it is released here, do you plan buying it or not? Hmmm as much as I hope, I don't think it will be released here but if it is, I'll purchase it. [....You are now Entering Questworld...] [DarienAllen@Att.Net] [ICQ# 2927081] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:25:30 -0700 >"Of course N64DD will be released in the USA. It is the only viable >market to release it in. It will come to Japan but only as a show for >what N128 will be like. Actually, looking at the release lists, Japan is the only viable market to release the 64DD in. There is actually very little software slated for the add-on that will appeal to mainstream America. Basically, it will need at least one killer app to even be a moderate success in America--this may mean waiting for Mario 64 2 or Zelda 64 2 to be finished. And no, you can't really count Mother 3 as being a killer app--RPGs have never been system sellers in America (FFVII may be considered one, but Mother 3 won't have the flashy movies to advertise it as well as FFVII was advertised). On the other hand, almost all 64DD games in development will appeal to mainstream Japan. The Pocket Monster games, Mother 3, Zelda 64 2, etc. will be definite must-haves for Japanese gamers. -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyler V Snow Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:32:07 -0700 > However, when everyone else is gone for bed, I load Quake2, which has a >multiplayer game to die for. You ever played Goldeneye007? I am pretty >sure you have. 4 players? Bah!! Try 32, all jumping around and screaming >and in a level with so much detail and such vast size. Quake 2? If you think Quake 2 has good multiplayer, you would absolutely *love* Quake 1 multiplayer! 32 player Quake 1 TeamFortress is the most fun I have ever had in ANY multiplayer game; CTF is also very fun. I wish Rare would have included a CTF mode (the capture the flag mode they included in the game wasn't really as cool as Quake CTF is) in Goldeneye... -Tyler V. Snow tvsnow@usa.net [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:30:20 +0000 > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:25:30 -0700 > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > From: Tyler V Snow > Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? > Reply-to: n64@lists.xmission.com > >"Of course N64DD will be released in the USA. It is the only viable > >market to release it in. It will come to Japan but only as a show for > >what N128 will be like. > > Actually, looking at the release lists, Japan is the only viable market to > release the 64DD in. There is actually very little software slated for the > add-on that will appeal to mainstream America. Basically, it will need at > least one killer app to even be a moderate success in America--this may > mean waiting for Mario 64 2 or Zelda 64 2 to be finished. And no, you > can't really count Mother 3 as being a killer app--RPGs have never been > system sellers in America (FFVII may be considered one, but Mother 3 won't > have the flashy movies to advertise it as well as FFVII was advertised). > > On the other hand, almost all 64DD games in development will appeal to > mainstream Japan. The Pocket Monster games, Mother 3, Zelda 64 2, etc. > will be definite must-haves for Japanese gamers. > > -Tyler V. Snow > tvsnow@usa.net > I agree with ya. I don't think they'll release it in the US unless they get a lot of third party companies that start making games for it or if they make a couple games that they know would sell really good here (like Donkey Kong Country 64 or Mario 64 II). Zig [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zimmfam@redrose.net Subject: [N64] Rare's Two Secret N64 Games Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:34:13 +0000 I read on IGN64.com awhile ago that Rare is working on four games for N64 this year. What games do you think they'll be? I think they'll probably be DK Country 64 and a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing. Later.. Zig [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:19:39 -0500 >Is it just me or is this list loosing his quality for the past few >weeks/months? I never am as excited as I was a while ago reading the mails >from the mailingslist. Yeah-- it's lost a bit. Mostly because a few of the regulars don't post much anymore-- Stryder, Cryptic Bug, Tippyman even posts less! :( We got a ton of little kids playing with their parent's computers(that or their rich parents got them one). >I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain weekly >topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk >anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting >discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? Personnally, I don't think that should be laid on the list owners/moderators. That should be the job of the people on the list. If you want a topic started, start one yourself. I've done it, you can do it-- ANYONE can do it. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] I totally agree Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:17:45 -0500 >I love this list, but if I get one more e-mail about what size someone's TV >is, my head will definitely explode. Who cares? I am especially disgusted I started the thread, as I was interested on what TV people enjoy their N64 games.. >with the bragging that goes on. Listen, if you are on the list it means >that you (1) love videogames and (2) love to play them on the N64. That is >it. I detest the bragging as well. >I say these things not to be critical but rather to improve the list so that >everyone is happy to see emails from the group. Everyone will never be happy-- try to please everyone, and you'll please no one. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:20:07 -0500 >The list is really dying. It just to be 100 mails a day but it is now >only 30. And what happened to all the people that talked a lot like >Tippy. I got about 70 N64 list mails today, so it's picked up a little. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] S-video Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:21:53 -0500 >Svideo has the highest level of quality, which is known. >The av cables, (red, white, and yellow) come next, but they are both pretty >much the same. Yes-- the difference, however, is with S-Video, the Red/Green/Blue signal of the video is kept seperate, so it doesn't "fight"-- this amounts to a MUCH better picture. >RF cables have very bad quality, noticeable at times. >when connecting the VCR, use svideo, and your n64 should use av You can probably even get a switch so you can use S-video for both. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 09 Feb 1998 20:23:21 -0500 >Has anyone tried gaming on the new Phillips MAGNAVOX TV that is like 4 inches >thick yet has a screen of, like, 50 inches? I saw one toda in Best Buy, and it >seems like it'd be a kick @$$ screen to play on. But who really has the room >to put somthing like that up? Just another case of the fact that just because >things are smaller and more compact dosen't mean they're better. How much did that thing cost? My guess is over $10,000, right? I'm figuring since LCD screens for the computer are about $5,000, and those are only 15", a 55"(or something like that) TV screen of that quality HAS to be about $10,000! I'd love to get one of those... :) Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:38:18 -0500 I am sorry as well. Although I am not a little kid playing on my parents computer, I sure do think that is how I was acting. Enough of our monitors. It is on to the more technical side of things. The games themselves. Sound good? I have been on this list since the beggining of the summer, by the way. I used to be called Tocher and then I was Games Bond 007, I do not know if you remember. I got kicked off for a week when I went crazy and I had a split personality. I have since remade myself. PS I am 16 and purchased and built my entire computer. I pay $17.95 a month for internet access. I work at a computer store. I have 2 projection televisions, around 45-50 inches. J/K -----Original Message----- >>Is it just me or is this list loosing his quality for the past few >>weeks/months? I never am as excited as I was a while ago reading the mails >>from the mailingslist. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: [N64] Quake Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:43:47 -0500 Yes, too bad Rare did not program that in. As for Quake, I have to disagree, although right now Quake is more fun, that is due to the fact that it has been out for a longer time. Once all the mods and levels and new stuff come out, QuakeII will be much better. All the speed enhancements of QuakeWorld are in Q2. Once we know how to make our new .dlls (as opposed to quakec) and get our skins and all, q2 will kick. It is a much better engine, designed for internet, as q1 was for networks mainly. Oh, and it just takes some time to search for a server that has no rookies, for most q2 players are new who just bought the box off the shelf. Oh, for those of you without computers, sorry for the above, as it does not deal with you. This just shows that there is no perfect gaming machine. As for multiplayer, the N64 is the best console, but nothing compared to a computer. QuakeII can scale up to 200 people on a server, all jumping around and killing eachother. This goes with many games as well. Quake64 only has a 2 player deathmatch. Hey, Tyler, respond to me personally after this, k? That goes with everyone else. -----Original Message----- >> However, when everyone else is gone for bed, I load Quake2, which has a >>multiplayer game to die for. You ever played Goldeneye007? I am pretty >>sure you have. 4 players? Bah!! Try 32, all jumping around and screaming >>and in a level with so much detail and such vast size. > >Quake 2? If you think Quake 2 has good multiplayer, you would absolutely >*love* Quake 1 multiplayer! 32 player Quake 1 TeamFortress is the most fun >I have ever had in ANY multiplayer game; CTF is also very fun. I wish Rare >would have included a CTF mode (the capture the flag mode they included in >the game wasn't really as cool as Quake CTF is) in Goldeneye... > >-Tyler V. Snow >tvsnow@usa.net > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Kalweit Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:48:54 -0500 >I have been on this list since the beggining of the summer, by the way. I >used to be called Tocher and then I was Games Bond 007, I do not know if you >remember. I got kicked off for a week when I went crazy and I had a split >personality. I have since remade myself. Yes-- I remember all 3 of them, and they all had the same personnallity-- the kind that's just short of making it into my twit filter(no one has so far in about 5 years of telecommunications). >PS I am 16 and purchased and built my entire computer. I pay $17.95 a No biggie. By 15 I had built about half a dozen at least. >month for internet access. I work at a computer store. I have 2 projection >televisions, around 45-50 inches. J/K I'd work at a computer store, too, if there was one around here-- I live out in the country. :( And as for the televisions, I still think you're spoiled. Derek Kalweit Email: dkalweit@eznet.net Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MattKK007@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:52:54 EST my favroite game is mario 64 i aggree with torcher44 its..........just so vast and puzzling.(sort of...mabye your first few times) if any one aggrees with me write me at MattKK007@aol.com....off the question subject.has anyone played Frogger 3-D for the computer if so write me also... MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title... Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:04:46 -0500 IGN64.com is reporting that SimCopter will be coming to the US not on the DD64 but as a cartridge. Is this another company just getting impatient? Or is this simply another pointer towards the likelihood of the DD being released in the US less and less..... [....You are now Entering Questworld...] [DarienAllen@Att.Net] [ICQ# 2927081] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy Tocher" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:10:17 -0500 Hey, I kinda like this guy. >MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a nice concept. I agree. Mario does rule. Well, Mario vs. Luigi? World destruction right there. The next 2 statements are very good, very very good. Oh, it is Tocher, everyone. Pronounced "To" ("uh", as in touch) and "cher" ("ker", as in her) Tucker, like that, but spelled Tocher. It is scottish. Hey, this is what got me kicked off the list a long long time ago, not good. I am sure people remember. You know, I am going to change my name to something a lot easier. -----Original Message----- >my favroite game is mario 64 i aggree with torcher44 its..........just so vast >and puzzling.(sort of...mabye your first few times) if any one aggrees with me >write me at MattKK007@aol.com....off the question subject.has anyone played >Frogger 3-D for the computer if so write me also... > >MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Dickson Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title... Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:11:58 -0600 Well...this makes sense, seeing how the big N doesn't have the 64DD planned for us for sometime (if ever). -Asha'man_X Editor-In-Chief and Webmaster Game Nation http://www.gamenation.base.org Darien Allen wrote: > IGN64.com is reporting that SimCopter will be coming to the US not on the > DD64 but as a cartridge. > > Is this another company just getting impatient? Or is this simply another > pointer towards the likelihood of the DD being released in the US less and > less..... > > [....You are now Entering Questworld...] > [DarienAllen@Att.Net] > [ICQ# 2927081] > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cho" Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:16:44 -0500 Well, now my name is Cho. Very easy to remember. He is a kindly creature that plays games and likes people. He speaks his mind and does not like people ignoring him. Wow, what a quality list we got here. ~~~Shut up Jeremy, you're going to get kicked again!~~~~ I must say I hate everone- ~~~Quiet, stupid!!!~~~ Okay, that is right - N64. Who has Robotron64? That game is so fun. When I am not Quaking, it is occupying all my time. Who cares graphics? The games are supposed to be fun, and it is! -----Original Message----- >>I have been on this list since the beggining of the summer, by the way. I >>used to be called Tocher and then I was Games Bond 007, I do not know if you >>remember. I got kicked off for a week when I went crazy and I had a split >>personality. I have since remade myself. > >Yes-- I remember all 3 of them, and they all had the same personnallity-- >the kind that's just short of making it into my twit filter(no one has so >far in about 5 years of telecommunications). > > >>PS I am 16 and purchased and built my entire computer. I pay $17.95 a > >No biggie. By 15 I had built about half a dozen at least. > > >>month for internet access. I work at a computer store. I have 2 projection >>televisions, around 45-50 inches. J/K > >I'd work at a computer store, too, if there was one around here-- I live >out in the country. :( And as for the televisions, I still think you're >spoiled. > > Derek Kalweit > Email: dkalweit@eznet.net > Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/ > NES Files: http://free.prohosting.com/~dkalweit/ > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Dickson Subject: [N64] Interesting Japanese trend... Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:29:39 -0600 Here's a good one for you that probably most of you have noticed, but never thought of bringing it to the list. :-) A lot of the newer N64 games are becoming more and more aimed at the Japanese. Many of the titles you'll find references such as "...very popular in Japan...." or "...a long standing Japanese series...". It's interesting how a "global" system (because it's called N64 all around the world) can be so biased towards one country. My opinion of course.... -Asha'man_X Editor-In-Chief and Webmaster Game Nation http://www.gamenation.base.org [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: Re: [N64] Rare's Two Secret N64 Games Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:56:57 -0500 I think that one of those two games is Killer Instinct 3. I heard a while back that Rare was developing a 3D fighter for N64. KI3 would be a huge hit on the N64 not only because Rare would be programming it but also because of the KI name. As for the other title its anyone's guess. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into Date: 10 Feb 1998 09:40:08 +0000 At 22:04 09/02/98 -0500, you wrote: >IGN64.com is reporting that SimCopter will be coming to the US not on the >DD64 but as a cartridge. > >Is this another company just getting impatient? Or is this simply another >pointer towards the likelihood of the DD being released in the US less and >less..... Impatience more than anything I'd rate. Companies *need* returns. Anyways, SimCopter *stinks* on the PC, so noone's missing anything ;-) And if you think *that's* a bad game, you should see their new 'game', Streets of SimCity... Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] What size TVs? Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:06:46 +0000 At 14:19 09/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >$150 is about =A375 not =A3250 so they are cheaper over in AMERICA Rubbish. $150 translates to a little under =A3100. General rule of thumb (ignoring any WILD flux in exchange rates) is $1 =3D =A30.66 Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Mission Impossible Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:03:09 +0000 At 14:06 09/02/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Yeah, I'm waiting for that one too. I just hope it's gonna beat the pants >out of goldeneye (well, then it will be a pretty good game wont it). Maybe >it will. What I've read about it sounds very good. But it al depends on how >they wil put it into the game. When I first heard about GE, I thought that >it were all cool ideas, but that it was hard to make them work in a game. >Rare did it though. IF Infogrames is gonna make their ideas work, they'll >have a game that'll certainly be much better then GE, imo. We'll see though. Tip: Ocean (aka InfogrammesUK...) will be furiously reworking MissionImpossible in the light of GoldenEye, seeing as it did a lot of what they were aiming for.. I think they were kinda *very* ambitious in their original designs + schedule... If they manage to do what they want to do, it'll be *great* though :-) Let's hope they get it out before MetalGearSolid though, another game that "shares" a lot of similar themes/ideas... :-) Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title... Date: 10 Feb 1998 08:39:09 -0500 >Impatience more than anything I'd rate. Companies *need* returns. Anyways, >SimCopter *stinks* on the PC, so noone's missing anything ;-) > >And if you think *that's* a bad game, you should see their new 'game', >Streets of SimCity... Impatient and needing returning....this company already produces PC titles how would this make any real impact on their bottom line? And how does that explain the news going around that Rare's DKC64 is also now a cartridge title? ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mazen( ACE) Barry" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:53:18 +0300 I agree with U , Mario 64 is the best , Play station is not as good as Nintendo. Mazen (ACE) Barry MattKK007@aol.com wrote: > my favroite game is mario 64 i aggree with torcher44 its..........just so vast > and puzzling.(sort of...mabye your first few times) if any one aggrees with me > write me at MattKK007@aol.com....off the question subject.has anyone played > Frogger 3-D for the computer if so write me also... > > MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mazen( ACE) Barry" Subject: Re: [N64] I totally agree Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:43:40 +0300 I totally agree with you man . Brian Sinclair wrote: > I love this list, but if I get one more e-mail about what size someone's TV > is, my head will definitely explode. Who cares? I am especially disgusted > with the bragging that goes on. Listen, if you are on the list it means > that you (1) love videogames and (2) love to play them on the N64. That is > it. > > I say these things not to be critical but rather to improve the list so that > everyone is happy to see emails from the group. > > Brian Sinclair > > "That's my two cents, for whatever its worth." > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mazen Barry Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:33:56 +0300 Hi ya'll ! I am a new subscriber to this list , I'm 21 years old studying medicine in Riyadh Saudi Arabia , I have owned a nintendo 64 for almost a year now , and I love it , the best games I played on it were ( with no specific order ) : Mario 64 , Mario kart 64 , Goldeneye , Star fox 64 . and the games that were Ok but not as good: Toruk , Wave Race , Pilot wings 64 ; my biggest disapointmend was Diddy Racing ( I was always wondering why they did'nt put Dixie in the game ? ) and the game I am looking forward to is Zelda , Castle vania 64 , nothing else looks promising . Thanks Mazen ( ACE ) Barry Siemon wrote: > hey all, > > Is it just me or is this list loosing his quality for the past few > weeks/months? I never am as excited as I was a while ago reading the mails > from the mailingslist. > > I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain weekly > topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk > anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting > discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? > > ok, just my thoughts, > > yours sincerely, > > > -Siemon > siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl > ICQ= 5750532 > > Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, > http://www.gamenation.base.org > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:07:49 +0000 At 08:39 10/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Impatient and needing returning....this company already produces PC titles >how would this make any real impact on their bottom line? Because a company invests X amount of money in N64 development presuming they can get a game out in Y time. When they start developing it, they realise it will end up taking 2*Y time. So they cut down what they want to do and release it in 1.5*Y time instead, making slightly less money than planned, but more than if game had taken 2*Y time. If you think that because they also develop on the PC that they can afford to 'write off' a game, you've a lot to learn about the games industry economics. >And how does that explain the news going around that Rare's DKC64 is also >now a cartridge title? No idea. I didn't know it was a 64DD game in the first place. Is this hearsay or 'fact'? Brian [of course, all comments are my own, and not the opinion of my employer] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grzegorz Kosno Subject: RE: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:35:40 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD363A.05938940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >-The American 64DD will not ship with a modem... Will this news affect >your thoughts of the add-on? Will you definitely not buy it now? I will buy it anyway ... ... when it comes to Europe, like Christmas 99! 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I am not an expert, so please correct me if I am wrong. In this case I see two option for the N64, either: 1. The picture will be stretched horizontally and squashed vertically. 2. The game would have to be programmed for two displays, normal and HDTV. Because not everyone will have HDTV's in the near future. Also, PAL countries will not have HDTV, but the corresponding standard, PAL+ (PAL plus) Once again, correct me if I am wrong. 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If Mario-creator Shigeru died: - what would happen with Nintendo? - what would happen with the gaming world? - what would happen with his games? What do you think? God, don't let it happen in the near future!!! I want him to live and work at Nintendo as long as possible!! Grzegorz Kosno [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grzegorz Kosno Subject: RE: [N64] Websites Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:35:48 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD363A.1904F400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Is there any decent PAL release lists? Try "www.bergsala-se.com". It exists even if you might not get a connection the first time, just try again. The problem is that it is the Scandinavian release list (I think). The rest of Europe has a slightly different release list, but then again, there are quite a few PAL list available. But the differences are not that big. At least try it... Oh, also, it's in Swedish :) ...but you should not have any problems with it. Buttons like "N64" and "Releaser" are quite obvious for any english speaking person. If you have problems contact me. Try also "www.nintendo.de" ... German I believe, but it might have a English speking version. I don't know, only visited it once, when they were still building it! 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Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:36:04 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD363A.2059C8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Yes, a very nice job. >I build, service, and sell computers. >[---] OK, that has answered my questions :) >I still think that Nintendo makes the best games around. I have never >bought a Sony or Sega product. Like myself! Although I test played some games in stores on those machines... 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Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:11:28 -0500 >Because a company invests X amount of money in N64 development presuming >they can get a game out in Y time. When they start developing it, they >realise it will end up taking 2*Y time. So they cut down what they want to >do and release it in 1.5*Y time instead, making slightly less money than >planned, but more than if game had taken 2*Y time. > >If you think that because they also develop on the PC that they can afford >to 'write off' a game, you've a lot to learn about the games industry >economics. Brian I'm going to take this post and hopefully realize that it was NOT written in the superior elitist attitude it seems to have, that being the case you are off-base. I said NOTHING about writing off a game. Your equation for the amount of money that is going to be made doesn't seem to be applicable here. Aren't production costs, fees, etc. lower for a DD64 game? I know development cost(new tech) are higher. Second point....simply cutting the time in development isn't directly proportional to the $$ amount that will be made on the game. You can sometimes theorize that a game that isn't in development LONG enough will result in -$$ vs. the correct time. But what's the correct time for a title? Who decides that? I've seen titles delayed and still do terribly, while other titles have been released on time to stellar profits. Consumers will decide whether a title is worth their $$. And we know how UNpredictable they can be. Simply put development time is not directly proportional to the amount of $$ that will be made. Who told you that? There is definitely a bit more in the equation. If this was an attempt to flatter me with your economics skills, I'm not impressed. >>And how does that explain the news going around that Rare's DKC64 is also >>now a cartridge title? > >No idea. I didn't know it was a 64DD game in the first place. Is this >hearsay or 'fact'? A few very reliable sources have reported it as fact. ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:39:50 +0000 At 10:11 10/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Brian I'm going to take this post and hopefully realize that it was NOT >written in the superior elitist attitude it seems to have, that being the >case you are off-base. I said NOTHING about writing off a game. Your >equation for the amount of money that is going to be made doesn't seem to be >applicable here. Aren't production costs, fees, etc. lower for a DD64 game? >I know development cost(new tech) are higher. Second point....simply >cutting the time in development isn't directly proportional to the $$ amount >that will be made on the game. You can sometimes theorize that a game that >isn't in development LONG enough will result in -$$ vs. the correct time. >But what's the correct time for a title? Who decides that? I've seen >titles delayed and still do terribly, while other titles have been released >on time to stellar profits. Consumers will decide whether a title is worth >their $$. And we know how UNpredictable they can be. Simply put >development time is not directly proportional to the amount of $$ that will >be made. Who told you that? There is definitely a bit more in the >equation. > >If this was an attempt to flatter me with your economics skills, I'm not >impressed. I wasn't meaning to sound 'superior'. And I wasn't giving an economic lecture, just a rough illustration as to how decisions get made - the original post mentioned that Maxis delaying a N64 game "how would this make any real impact on their bottom line". I was trying to show *roughly* how companies decide that a project is going to take too long to be cost effective. I know fine well how many economic factors come into decisions about development times - I see it every day. As for costs of N64/DD development, nobody knows. There are *zero* third-party games for the 64DD yet, so anyone that can claim to 'know' the *costs* is lying. Unless their a Nintendo exec. :-) Development these days is based a LOT on uncertainty. Uncertainty about trends, uncertainty about deadlines, uncertainty about costs. Noone knows *quite* how long a project will take. Very few companies are 'guaranteed' a hit - there *are* exceptions - and it *is* a big decision to take. This is the point I was trying to make, I'll reword it. You're an accountant at Maxis. You're a PC based company. You've got a project in development for an add-on for a console, a system you have precious little experience of. You have to make the financial decision as to 'fund' the project for another year, a year in which there is no guarantee this add-on will be available worldwide or that it'll be a success. Instead you can quickly finish it off & release it for the current 'default' machine - a machine with a limited supply of software where any half-decent game is selling. What do you do?? As for what's the "perfect" length of time for development, there's an easy answer. When it's finished. That may sound dumb, but you'd be suprised how few companies think of it. A game can be overdeveloped, such as Dungeon Keeper on the PC, or Heart of Lateness, or rushed out for a market - of which there are countless examples. It's a shame that it's not always economic to release games when "finished". That's the problem with working in an *industry*. Economics. Nintendo themselves are not averse to cancelling projects on an economic/time scale y'know. >>No idea. I didn't know it was a 64DD game in the first place. Is this >>hearsay or 'fact'? > >A few very reliable sources have reported it as fact. Cool then. I'm sure RARE know what they're upto. And I'm sure they'll have just as many 'secret' projects in development. From the little I've heard about their set-up, they're very secretive internally. Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darien Allen" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title... Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:29:26 -0500 >I wasn't meaning to sound 'superior'. And I wasn't giving an economic >lecture, just a rough illustration as to how decisions get made - the >original post mentioned that Maxis delaying a N64 game "how would this make >any real impact on their bottom line". I was trying to show *roughly* how >companies decide that a project is going to take too long to be cost >effective. I know fine well how many economic factors come into decisions >about development times - I see it every day. I was the original poster. I know how game develop/production/sales impact the bottom line. I simply felt that SimCopter should not make that much of an impact on Maxis' bottom line that they felt the need to move production up from DD64 to the cartridge format. >You're an accountant at Maxis. You're a PC based company. You've got a >project in development for an add-on for a console, a system you have >precious little experience of. You have to make the financial decision as >to 'fund' the project for another year, a year in which there is no >guarantee this add-on will be available worldwide or that it'll be a >success. Instead you can quickly finish it off & release it for the current >'default' machine - a machine with a limited supply of software where any >half-decent game is selling. What do you do?? Ok, this is fine...but you tried to make development time directly proportional to $$ in sales. That's just not true. >As for what's the "perfect" length of time for development, there's an easy >answer. When it's finished. That may sound dumb, but you'd be suprised how >few companies think of it. A game can be overdeveloped, such as Dungeon >Keeper on the PC, or Heart of Lateness, or rushed out for a market - of >which there are countless examples. It's a shame that it's not always >economic to release games when "finished". That's the problem with working >in an *industry*. Economics. Nintendo themselves are not averse to >cancelling projects on an economic/time scale y'know. This I know...and it's not just problem in the video game industry....believe you me. Now back to your statement "when it's finished". That's an easy statement to make. Who decides when it's finished? Marketing? Developers? Game-Testers? Hence many of the problems with titles that are rushed out, and even some that are delayed. Many times game-testers have complained about possible problems with products, yet they are still released. It's a hard call to make...everybody's got to do it...and unfortunately not everyone makes the right call. >Cool then. I'm sure RARE know what they're upto. And I'm sure they'll have >just as many 'secret' projects in development. From the little I've heard >about their set-up, they're very secretive internally. Can't say I blame them....that way they don't have to here the gnashing of teeth, when a "release date" is missed. Which is a whole other rant altogether. ----- Darien Allen ICQ #2927081 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mazen( ACE) Barry" Subject: [N64] [Fwd: [Fwd: get http://www.ign64.com/jsmid/news/1737.html]] Date: 10 Feb 1998 20:03:26 +0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1F0C60949371F9D7FE39BC99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------1F0C60949371F9D7FE39BC99 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from nabeel.ksu.edu.sa ([198.77.94.228]) by sun1.ksu.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03211 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:07:30 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <34E07BBE.4A984089@ksu.edu.sa> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080EEC617B4FF09E7701E54C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080EEC617B4FF09E7701E54C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here you go --------------080EEC617B4FF09E7701E54C Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from netra.ksu.edu.sa (relay [198.77.102.18]) by sun1.ksu.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17385 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:38:32 -0300 (GMT) Received: from relay.kacst.edu.sa (ns1.kacst.edu.sa [198.77.88.3]) by netra.ksu.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09352 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:40:20 -0300 (Etc/GMT) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by relay.kacst.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19342 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:35:11 -0300 (GMT) Received: from enigma.gex.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.EAE3D25B@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 5:40:54 +0100 Received: by enigma.gex.gmd.de id AA17579 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for nabeel@ksu.edu.sa); Tue, 10 Feb 1998 05:40:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199802100440.AA17579@enigma.gex.gmd.de> Comments: w3gate - WWW per Email Comments: Copyright (c) GMD 1997, 1998 Comments: W3Gate is a voluntary service of Comments: GMD - German National Research Center for Information Technology Comments: We reserve the right to stop this service at any time. 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The 64DD: Nintendo's Disk Drive

Everything you ever wanted to know about the N64's first major add-on

The 64DD is Nintendo's answer to CD-Rom: A writable disk drive with fast access rates

The unit fits snugly underneath your N64

See this slot under your N64? That's where the two connect

The disks for the 64DD look a lot like Zip-Disks

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Nintendo 64DD

What is the 64DD?

More than two years ago, Nintendo announced that it was working on a custom-made disk-drive add-on for its upcoming Project Reality, the code name for Nintendo 64. The 64DD (64-megabyte disk drive) is a hardware unit that fits snugly under the Nintendo 64. If you check the bottom of your Nintendo 64, there's a removable slot called "Ext." This is where the 64DD attaches to the N64.

Basically, the 64DD is a magnetic drive-based device that uses media units very similar to Zip Drive disks. A simplified comparison is to see them as gigantic floppy disks, holding 64 megabytes of data each. These disks are not CD-ROMs (Compact Disks -- Read Only Memory), and won't play CDs, like the Saturn and PlayStation.

What Will It Do?

A really cool thing about 64DD is that it enables developers to make games that can utilize both cartridge and disk. For instance, if Acclaim created a football game on cartridge, it would later be able to produce updates for it on disk. These disks could feature such things as new graphics data, new teams, arenas and presentation screens, and new information such as player's names, team colors, team stats, new players and so on. This update disk would obviously be much cheaper than a cartridge, and would allow players to get much more out of their games and not have to buy a new cartridge every year.

The same holds true for other games, like RPGs: new adventures or worlds, or even new characters, for instance, could be created to add extra life to a game. But developers also have the option of making 64DD disk only games, and skip the cartridge version altogether. So they have three choices for development: straight carts, disk and cart, or straight disk.

The other big advantage of the 64DD disk is that it is readable and writeable. CD-ROMs (remember that ROM means Read Only Memory) can't perform this function and need an additional memory pak to record data (and then only in small quantities). So, for example, in a 64DD RPG your character could be walking through a forest and drop a few cookie crumbs to mark the way. Any change is instantly recorded, and even when you turn off the game and later come back to it the crumbs will still be there. Maybe your footprints will still be there, too. Monsters you killed could be there and their rotting corpses could still be decaying. In essence, your game, once you start playing it, will be completely unique. With the flexibility of the 64DD, and more importantly, the rewritability of disks, your 64DD-compatible cart games will really become far more valuable then ever before.

When Will It Arrive?

Nintendo officially announced last spring that the 64DD will appear first in Japan in March 1998. Since then, the release date has slipped to June '98.
Nintendo's official word on the 64DD in the US is so vague, people's faces usually crinkle up in frustration and despair: "The official word is that Nintendo's 64DD is coming out in 1998. No games have been announced yet, and no firm date has been disclosed." We here at IGN64.com think that the 64DD will not come out in 1998 -- but we would love to be wrong on this.

At Shoshinkai 96, Perrin Kaplan (Nintendo's Director of Corporate Communications) told IGN reporters that the 64DD will arrive by the end of 1997. The launch date for the 64DD in Japan has already been moved back at least twice. Now Nintendo of America says the 64DD will be out in North America in fall 1998, and might possibly be revealed at the June Electronic Entertainment Expo in Atlanta, Georgia. But will it really? Only time will tell.

How much will it cost?

Nintendo has not yet revealed the DD's exact price. Early estimates put the price for the unit alone at around $99 in Japan. But industry insiders told IGN64.com that Nintendo is trying to keep the cost as low as possible (hence the rather limited storage) and that we might even see the drive for a mere $79 in the US.

Why Not CD-ROMs?
Nintendo has always said that cartridges are the best way to bring a game to life on videogame consoles. Third-party developers, however, almost unanimously disagree, especially after experiencing the inexpensive production costs and higher profit margins of making games for CD-ROM-based systems. Some were even reluctant to make Nintendo 64 games, period. Electronic Arts was one of these companies until Nintendo worked a deal to bring all of EA's biggest sports titles to Nintendo 64. That was a major coup for Nintendo, especially since EA had previously said it wouldn't make any Nintendo 64 games at all (with the exception of FIFA).

Many developers, however, are very interested in making games for the 64DD (and are confused why Nintendo doesn't actively push for more DD development). 64DD disks much cheaper for developers/publishers and offer higher profit margins than carts. On top of that, disks allow for far bigger and better games to be created -- the extra storage space afforded by a disk (the largest cartridge so far has 32 megabytes of storage space compared to 64 MB on a 64DD disk) and a RAM expansion that ships with the unit pave the way for better music, speech and graphics. But this still doesn't answer the "why not CD-ROMs" question?

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo turned sour on CD-ROM after a deal with Sony to produce a CD-ROM drive for the Super NES blew up (the remains of which became known as the PlayStation). This, coupled with the fact that Nintendo wants games for its machine to be delivered exclusively on Nintendo-manufactured media (CD-ROMs can be made by anyone with access to a CD pressing plant) has ensured that Nintendo has bucked the CD trend so far.

Nintendo has only ever really said that cartridges have benefits that CD-ROMs don't, and while many gamers somehow believed this (qualities like fast loading games and durability), most developers, executives, and knowledgeable tech heads simply chuckled. The simple fact is that CD-ROMs have much more storage space, are easier to mass produce and provide a far more forgiving business model (they allow for a far bigger profit margin) than cartridges will ever. Even the size of Zelda 64, which holds 32 megabytes on one single cartridge, simply doesn't compare to a standard 650 megabyte CD-ROM. Size, of course, says nothing about the quality of the gameplay...

Will it sell?

What's so special about Nintendo's infamous 64DD? What separates this add-on device from the 32Xs and Sega CDs of yore?

Unlike so many failed peripherals and add-ons, the 64DD doesn't merely offer more of the same. It takes a step into a new direction -- one virtually unexplored in the home videogaming community: writability. And that at a low price.

The ability to store mass amounts of data on the writable drive opens new doors for developers and players alike. We're not talking about simple save-game features here -- that is merely the tip of the iceberg. No, imagine add-on missions to games, extra levels, new weapons, virtual pets, characters and storylines and worlds that unfold differently every time the game is played. Theoretically, with the use of the 64DD, it is possible for Nintendo to distribute monthly add-ons or updates to existing games. Replay value would jump to new heights.

Together with another peripheral, the Capture Cartridge, it will actually be possible to bring your own face into a game. Simply grab a frame from video, edit it in one of Nintendos Mario Artist games, and youre ready to use it in other games supporting this 64DD feature. Imagine a fighting game with a character that has your face -- you get the picture. But that's not all. Nintendo is also planning to sell the 64 GB pak, a device that allows you to import data from a GameBoy game to the 64DD -- and you will even be able to directly connect GameBoys to your N64 to use them as data sheets for games like horse-racing or baseball (where the other player isn't supposed to see what you enter). The question remains if Nintendo can pull it off and sell the 64DD at high quantities to attract enough third party developers.

Additional Features

Built-in ROM

The 64DD includes a 36-megabit-chip that contains integrated fonts and audio data files. No longer will programmers have to put ALL their sounds into a cart as is currently the case (the N64 lacks a dedicated sound chip). This will eliminate the need for developers to store many sounds and fonts on the disk and free up even more space.

Real-Time Clock

An interesting feature of the 64DD is that it has an internal real-time clock that is always ticking. Play a game at night, switch it off, and upon returning in the morning, eight hours will have passed in the game. Enough time for a village to be burned down, or for characters to regain health while resting, or an enemy to sneak up behind players for a surprise attack. Welcome to the real virtual world. This feature is likely to be used a lot with virtual pet sims and to unlock special time-bound features, like a winter-time level at X-Mas time, and more.

Memory Expansion

The 64DD comes with a 4 MB expansion RAM (random access memory) pack, which players install into the memory expansion slot of the Nintendo 64 (top). It will replace the current jumper pak and raise the N64s overall RAM to a total of 8 MB (four times as much as the PSX). Among other things, the added RAM will help pave the way for more hi-res games.

Modem, Network or Satellite?

The other, more mysterious part of the 64DD is that it is supposed to feature modem or network capability. A modem could open the ways to multiplayer gaming or network downloads, but it does throw up a myriad of questions -- will the 64DD have a modem built in? Will the 64DD use the Internet or a specific Nintendo gaming network (perhaps satellite based)? And the big question -- will this ultimately allow gamers to play other gamers around the world?

Sega has released its share of modems for its consoles, but all have lacked the benefit of writability. 64DD owners, presumably, will possibly be able to connect to a network and play against other players, or even be able to download add-ons, upgrades, cheats and tweaks.

So what will it be, modem, modem connection, a software modem, or some alternate network? Our guess is that the Japanese version will ultimately hook up to Nintendo's new Satellite joint venture (for data downloading and TV/Videotext-type programming) and that the US version will possibly offer a "software modem" for downloading data from dedicated servers.

Unfortunately, Nintendo continues to give conflicting reports. Some NCL employees say there will definitely not be a modem in either the Japanese and the international version of the 64DD, NOA says there will be. We will just have to wait on this one.

64DD Specs

Physical Dimensions/Weight:
10.2" x 7.5" x 3.1"
3.53 lbs

System:
Magnetic Disk Storage Medium
Error Correction Support

Utilizes N64 console for data processing
Battery-backed real-time Clock
Built-in 36 megabit ROM (contains data files to assist developers, such as sounds and fonts)
4" front loading disk feed
4 megabyte RAM expansion (installed in console Memory Expansion slot)
Disks are hot-swappable (multiple disk support)

Benchmarks:
Under 75 ms seek time
1 MB/sec data transfer rate
"Burst Access" Streams

Disk Physical Dimensions:
3.98" x 4.06" x .4"
260mm x 190mm x 78.7mm
weight: 1.6 kg

Games/Disks:
High Density, Double-Sided
64.45 MB total capacity (eight times the size of Mario 64)
Read/Write capable
Dynamic writable space<
1-38 MB writable
Shielded against data-loss

Games to Look Forward to

Many of the upcoming games for 64DD will arrive on disk format only (dont worry, Nintendo will continue to make cartridge games, too), while others are cartridge games that will have add-on disks. The first add-on disk will be available for F-Zero X -- and includes new tracks and even a track editor.

We will bring you a rundown of all known 64DD games tomorrow.

Any questions about the 64DD? E-mail us at editors@ign64.com, with "64DD" in the subject line. We will compile a 64DD FAQ from all the questions you send in.

--19602291334.W3G16842 Content-Type: text/plain -- Are you prepared for the year 2001? If not: The TERENA Networking Conference (TNC`98) will give you related answers. For details see: /http://www.terena.nl/conf/. --19602291334.W3G16842-- --------------080EEC617B4FF09E7701E54C-- --------------1F0C60949371F9D7FE39BC99-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] [Fwd: [Fwd: get http://www.ign64.com/jsmid/news/1737.html]] Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:12:01 -0600 DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN. Simply post the url, and let us go there.... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siemon Subject: [N64] list quality --> Results Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:33:30 +0100 Hey all, I have to say, that the list is growing again, where I usually got for about 20 mails from the list, now I almost got 50 mails... cool thing! my regards, -Siemon siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl ICQ= 5750532 Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, http://www.gamenation.base.org [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dvader" Subject: Re: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:07:16 -0600 >OK, here's a few things anyone can comment on: > >-The American 64DD will not ship with a modem... Will this news affect your >thoughts of the add-on? Will you definitely not buy it now? If it comes out in the U.S. (Which i think it will eventually) I could care less if it has a modem or not. Even if it had one, I don't think it would be very pratical. Look at Sega NetLink. That thing sucks. What would the modem be used for? Downloading add-ons for games? E-mail? Surfing the net? None of these things seem practical for a console. dvader http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/6946 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dvader" Subject: Re: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:09:01 -0600 >OK, here's a few things anyone can comment on: > >-The American 64DD will not ship with a modem... Will this news affect your >thoughts of the add-on? Will you definitely not buy it now? If it comes out in the U.S. (Which i think it will eventually) I could care less if it has a modem or not. I will buy it regardless. Even if it had one, I don't think it would be very pratical. Look at Sega NetLink. That thing sucks. What would the modem be used for? Downloading add-ons for games? E-mail? Surfing the net? None of these things seem practical for a console. dvader http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/6946 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] List quality Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:20:38 -0500 At 03:02 PM 2/9/98 -0800, you wrote: >The list is really dying. It just to be 100 mails a day but it is now >only 30. And what happened to all the people that talked a lot like >Tippy. I got stuff to do now...I skate. A lot. Plus I got SAT prep and crap like that....school sucks. I try to reply whenever I can. ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siemon Subject: [N64] An exclusive interview with the Gregmeister Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:17:05 +0100 Hey all, Game Nation has interviewed the Gregmeister, you can find the interview at: http://www.gamenation.base.org/discussions/interview.html yours sincerely, -Siemon siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl ICQ= 5750532 Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, http://www.gamenation.base.org [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:31:47 -0500 >Quake 2? If you think Quake 2 has good multiplayer, you would absolutely >*love* Quake 1 multiplayer! 32 player Quake 1 TeamFortress is the most fun >I have ever had in ANY multiplayer game; CTF is also very fun. I wish Rare >would have included a CTF mode (the capture the flag mode they included in >the game wasn't really as cool as Quake CTF is) in Goldeneye... I've recently acquired a cheap version of Quake 1...geez, the single player mode blows (I heard Quake 2 has better single action), but the multiplayer makes up completely for it. I would say it almost beats OO7 multi, if not for the sometimes horrendous lag. When Quake 2 establishes itself on the 'net, maybe I'll drop some dough for it....new weapons. :) The music isn't the best (to me), and it distracts me from fraggin'. Sometimes I enjoy poppin' in some NOFX and whatnot while I'm playin'. Too bad you can't do that on the '64 version... Speaking of the N64 port, what the hell is wrong with them? 2 player deathmatch? OoOh, I'm creaming my pants. ;) I think that anyone with a brain in their head would opt for the cheaper PC version, just for the multiplayer. ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:37:45 -0500 >has anyone played >Frogger 3-D for the computer if so write me also... It blows chunks. Period. >MARIO RULES...NINTENDO RULES...PLAYSTATION STINKS:-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the quality post of a typical AOLer... Hey, have you set up your own N64 club? Every Troll has one. Are you working on an N64 "proggie"? Maybe you should work on spending time on your posts, and less time on making Ascii for chatrooms. Heehee. ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Interesting Japanese trend... Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:42:10 -0500 >It's interesting how a "global" system (because it's called N64 all >around the world) can be so biased towards one country. My opinion of >course.... It's their home market. They probably know more about Japan than anywhere else, and wanna sell there too. Japan is a very influencial market, and the people there are more interested in games than most US people are. I dunno, that's my take on it. ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] Rare's Two Secret N64 Games Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:44:52 -0500 At 10:56 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >I think that one of those two games is Killer Instinct 3. I heard a while >back that Rare was developing a 3D fighter for N64. KI3 would be a huge hit >on the N64 not only because Rare would be programming it but also because of >the KI name. Yea, but they made KIGold too...wouldn't it stand to reason that the fools who spent money on it wouldn't want to do it again? Even if the game is good, there is that first N64 attempt... Personally, I think Ki Gold is a blemish on Rare's outstanding track record...IMHO, desde luego :) ============================== Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com "Skankin' be fun." ============================== [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title. Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:51:30 +0000 Darien Allen writes: >IGN64.com is reporting that SimCopter will be coming to the US not on th= e >DD64 but as a cartridge. > >Is this another company just getting impatient? Or is this simply anoth= er >pointer towards the likelihood of the DD being released in the US less a= nd >less..... Maybe they (and other companies) see the prices of manufacturing large carts dropping. Look at Zelda 64. It is a 32MB game. That=92s half of wha= t a disk for the 64DD can hold. Who=92s to say that within the next year we won=92t see 64MB carts? That would make rewritability and the 4MB RAM upgrade the only major differences between the DD and the N64 (I think). I=92m sure that time factors in there somwhere also. Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re: [N64] Shigeru Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:53:18 +0000 sweden@polbox.com,Internet writes: >I have a new topic... > >If Mario-creator Shigeru died: >- what would happen with Nintendo? >- what would happen with the gaming world? >- what would happen with his games? > That=92s kind of morbid don=92t you think? Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp) Subject: [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:51 EST Comrades, Whilst this question is not particuarly N64 related I'll ask it anyway. Here's the dealio! I want to get a decent home computer, but I'm afraid that like all things, (ie: my $800 Sony 100 cd player thats collecting dust, the $700 Soloflex 'coat rack') that as the novelty wears off I will lose interest and will have ended up wasting money. Hence my question to those of you that have home computers, what do you use it for besides playing games /chat rooms and surfin the net? None of which IMO substatiates spending thousands on a home PC. Thanks in advance to all that reply! Kevin [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cutch" Subject: Re: [N64] Shigeru Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:11:31 -0500 Shigeru? Are you speaking of Shigeru Miyamoto? You should put their last name with their first name...it's very hard to understand who your talking about if you don't. Grzegorz Kosno wrote: > I have a new topic... > > If Mario-creator Shigeru died: > - what would happen with Nintendo? > - what would happen with the gaming world? > - what would happen with his games? > > What do you think? > > God, don't let it happen in the near future!!! > I want him to live and work at Nintendo as long as possible!! > > Grzegorz Kosno > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tippyman Subject: Re: [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:15:50 -0500 At 03:51 PM 2/10/98 EST, you wrote: >Hence my question to those of you that have home computers, >what do you use it for besides playing games /chat rooms and >surfin the net? None of which IMO substatiates spending >thousands on a home PC. I don't really go in chatrooms, and I only have one game on my PC...I use email a lot, but the major reason I have this computer is HARDCORE PORNOGRAPHY. Actually, I use mine to buy underground CD's and LP's, check up on show dates, do homework, make graphics, make a web page, etc. Basically, if you really don't need a faster processor, it's not worth the money. Srfing the web and email really doesn't require a 233 mhz with a voodoo chipset. :) ============================= Tippyman http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy tippyman@erols.com Boycott MTV! ============================= [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Subject: Re: [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:19:31 -0800 Tippyman wrote: > > At 03:51 PM 2/10/98 EST, you wrote: > >Hence my question to those of you that have home computers, > >what do you use it for besides playing games /chat rooms and > >surfin the net? None of which IMO substatiates spending > >thousands on a home PC. > > I don't really go in chatrooms, and I only have one game on my PC...I use > email a lot, but the major reason I have this computer is HARDCORE > PORNOGRAPHY. > > Actually, I use mine to buy underground CD's and LP's, check up on show > dates, do homework, make graphics, make a web page, etc. Basically, if you > really don't need a faster processor, it's not worth the money. Srfing the > web and email really doesn't require a 233 mhz with a voodoo chipset. :) > > ============================= > Tippyman > http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy > tippyman@erols.com > Boycott MTV! > ============================= > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]Tippy Man is NAUGHTY. Tippy Man is a PORNOMANIAC. Don't worry, visit Nurgatomic Dustbin. -- Sam Nurgatomic Dustbin www.special.reserve.co.uk/n64 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emounger@saxonpub.com (Emerson Mounger) Subject: Re(2): [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:21:35 +0000 Tippyman writes: >I don't really go in chatrooms, and I only have one game on my PC...I us= e >email a lot, but the major reason I have this computer is HARDCORE >PORNOGRAPHY.=20 Whew! I=92m not alone! ;=96) But seriously, I use mine for recording and mixing purposes mostly. Some would say that I=92m a Trent Reznor wannabe! Emerson [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AvidGamePlayer@webtv.net (Tim Howe) Subject: [N64] Thank you (s-video) Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:49:52 -0500 I would like to take this moment to thank everyone who provided information to me regarding my question about S-Video. I think I will definetly pick one up for my N64. After seeing what everyone had to say about it, and judging from my own experiences with the SUPERIOR quality that it has provided for me with my DVD player....I cant wait to see what it does for N64...Thank you all!!!! God Bless! =86 Tim =86 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: [N64] S-VHS Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:55:01 +1100 ::: tocher44@email.msn.com ::: 9/2/98 10:29 PM=81 ::: <___- >Svideo has the highest level of quality, which is known. That's baloney, methinks. I was always under the impression that the game cable situation from = worst to best goes RCA's, S-VHS then 21-pin Scart. Would any of the = Euro-Pal gamers out there care to fill in the details? I've only ever = used S-VHS myself, but can definitely see a noticeable improvement in = resolution from trusty old RCA's... _ emile +3 (plus three) says: !WE_LIVE_IN_OVER-STIMULATED_TIMES! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: [N64] Game Nation Reviews List Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:13:38 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01BD364F.9C64A600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As promised, here's that listing of reviews on Gamenation for those of = you who don't have the Internet: Aerofighters Assault, by Asha'man X Bomberman 64, by Asha'man X Bomberman 64, by Glacion Bomberman 64, by Vertigo Chameleon Twist, by Asha'man X Cruis'n USA, by Glacion Diddy Kong Racing, by Glacion Diddy Kong Racing, by Siemon Diddy Kong Racing, by Wolfpacker Diddy Kong Racing, by Asha'man X Duke Nukem 64, by Siemon Extreme-G, by Glacion Goldeneye, by Yoshi Goldeneye, by Siemon International Superstar Soccer, by Wolfpacker Mario Kart 64, by Winston Chan Mortal Kombat Troligy, by Winston Chan Robotron 64, by Asha'man X Starfox 64, by Winston Chan Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, by Winston Chan Feel free to request any of these reviews to be sent to you by email by = emailing me at glacion@earthlink.net If I get enough requests for a review, I'll post it to the list. glacion@earthlink.net =20 Links and Reviews Editor http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ: 1907649 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01BD364F.9C64A600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As promised, here's that listing of = reviews on=20 Gamenation for those of you who don't have the Internet:

Aerofighters Assault, by Asha'man = X

Bomberman 64, by Asha'man X

Bomberman 64, by Glacion

Bomberman 64, by Vertigo

Chameleon Twist, by Asha'man X

Cruis'n USA, by Glacion

Diddy Kong Racing, by Glacion

Diddy Kong Racing, by = Siemon

Diddy Kong Racing, by=20 Wolfpacker

Diddy = Kong Racing, by=20 Asha'man X

Duke = Nukem 64, by=20 Siemon

Extreme-G, by=20 Glacion

Goldeneye, by=20 Yoshi

Goldeneye, by=20 Siemon

International Superstar=20 Soccer, by Wolfpacker

Mario = Kart 64, by=20 Winston Chan

Mortal = Kombat Troligy,=20 by Winston Chan

Robotron 64, by=20 Asha'man X

Starfox = 64, by Winston=20 Chan

Turok: = Dinosaur Hunter,=20 by Winston Chan

Feel = free to request=20 any of these reviews to be sent to you by email by emailing me at glacion@earthlink.net

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------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01BD364F.9C64A600-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Bates Subject: Re: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 10 Feb 1998 20:06:07 -0800 Tyler V Snow wrote: > > >>I think the suggestion of someone (thought it was Dash) of a certain > >>weekly > >>topic is quite cool. Of course this topic shouldn't mean we can't talk > >>anything else anymore, but it could point us to some more interesting > >>discussions... Tyler, Greg? What do you guys think? > > That is actually an excellent idea. The recent TV thread generated many > responses; hopefully we can get the same type of response from more > on-topic topics. > > OK, here's a few things anyone can comment on: > > -The American 64DD will not ship with a modem... Will this news affect your > thoughts of the add-on? Will you definitely not buy it now? You're right ... The 64DD is not coming with a MODEM. There is going o be some sort of sattelite network or something. NINTENDO has a deal with some big company to put a sattelite up in space. Faster downloads and stuff ... Cool. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Bates Subject: Re: [N64] 64DD-yes or no? Date: 10 Feb 1998 20:13:53 -0800 > On the other hand, almost all 64DD games in development will appeal to > mainstream Japan. The Pocket Monster games, Mother 3, Zelda 64 2, etc. > will be definite must-haves for Japanese gamers. All the Pocket Monster games have been canceled and Mother 3,Zelda 64,SM64 II , FZero X (Which is rumoured to be the first 'never-ending game) will all be HUGE hits here as well! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacob H. Forstater" Subject: Re: [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:36:10 -0500 Well, I program on my computer, I surf the net, chat, play games, do work, do homework, write, draw, etc. -Jacob _______________________________________________________________________ Jacob Head Cheat Man of Game Nation, jhf84@usa.net http://www.gamenation.base.org ICQ= 5149409 [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cho" Subject: Re: [N64] S-VHS Date: 10 Feb 1998 06:36:57 -0500 svideo is better a fact i dont' get that from experience, I read it in a magazine what can I say? i have actually never used it, so I can't tell myself, but it is true, as that is just how it is they each have their own signal, instead of getting mixed and intertwined -----Original Message----- ::: tocher44@email.msn.com ::: 9/2/98 10:29 PM� ::: <___- >Svideo has the highest level of quality, which is known. That's baloney, methinks. I was always under the impression that the game cable situation from worst to best goes RCA's, S-VHS then 21-pin Scart. Would any of the Euro-Pal gamers out there care to fill in the details? I've only ever used S-VHS myself, but can definitely see a noticeable improvement in resolution from trusty old RCA's... _ emile +3 (plus three) says: !WE_LIVE_IN_OVER-STIMULATED_TIMES! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cho" Subject: Re: [N64] What do you use your PC for? Date: 10 Feb 1998 06:39:20 -0500 A computer can run every application you can buy. Go to CompUSA, see all those boxes? Taxes, Word Processing, Imaging, Music, Internet, and Games -----Original Message----- Cc: kmapp@csc.com >Comrades, > >Whilst this question is not particuarly N64 related >I'll ask it anyway. > >Here's the dealio! > >I want to get a decent home computer, but I'm afraid >that like all things, (ie: my $800 Sony 100 cd player >thats collecting dust, the $700 Soloflex 'coat rack') >that as the novelty wears off I will lose interest and >will have ended up wasting money. > >Hence my question to those of you that have home computers, >what do you use it for besides playing games /chat rooms and >surfin the net? None of which IMO substatiates spending >thousands on a home PC. > >Thanks in advance to all that reply! > >Kevin > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cho" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 10 Feb 1998 06:42:29 -0500 quake2 is much faster, designed for internet hardly any lag, provided that you use a real isp, not aol or an online service also, try to get a fast machine see, about computer games, like quake, you gotta be a smarter person who likes computers all the tags for quake get confusing quake2 gets easy and the q2 music is nice, but not for multiplayer, it messes it up single player q2 is extreme, very nice -----Original Message----- >>Quake 2? If you think Quake 2 has good multiplayer, you would absolutely >>*love* Quake 1 multiplayer! 32 player Quake 1 TeamFortress is the most fun >>I have ever had in ANY multiplayer game; CTF is also very fun. I wish Rare >>would have included a CTF mode (the capture the flag mode they included in >>the game wasn't really as cool as Quake CTF is) in Goldeneye... > >I've recently acquired a cheap version of Quake 1...geez, the single player >mode blows (I heard Quake 2 has better single action), but the multiplayer >makes up completely for it. I would say it almost beats OO7 multi, if not >for the sometimes horrendous lag. When Quake 2 establishes itself on the >'net, maybe I'll drop some dough for it....new weapons. :) > >The music isn't the best (to me), and it distracts me from fraggin'. >Sometimes I enjoy poppin' in some NOFX and whatnot while I'm playin'. Too >bad you can't do that on the '64 version... > >Speaking of the N64 port, what the hell is wrong with them? 2 player >deathmatch? OoOh, I'm creaming my pants. ;) I think that anyone with a >brain in their head would opt for the cheaper PC version, just for the >multiplayer. > >============================== >Tippyman >http://skapunx.ml.org/~tippy >tippyman@erols.com > "Skankin' be fun." >============================== > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Sinclair" Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title. Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:40:18 -0500 Emerson wrote: > Look at Zelda 64. It is a 32MB game. That=92s half of what a > disk for the 64DD can hold. Who=92s to say that within the next year we > won=92t see 64MB carts? Just a note. Nintendo has publically stated in the past that the N64 cou= ld not handle cart sizes bigger than 32 megs. As such, there doesn't seem anyway beyond the development of the 64DD that games larger than Zelda wi= ll ever reach the gamers out there. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] Topics (was Re: [N64] List quality) Date: 11 Feb 1998 00:52:00 -0600 dvader wrote: > be very pratical. Look at Sega NetLink. That thing sucks. What I like my NetLink, and I use it all the time - for everything from internetting to gaming.. would the > modem be used for? Downloading add-ons for games? E-mail? Surfing the > net? None of these things seem practical for a console. Tell that to the people who make WebTV, or Network Computers... These are the future. All of the capabilities of a computer in at $300 set-top box that I can use on my big-screen TV in my living-room. And the N64 would make a great we browser with the 64DD. With @30MB of writable storage, the 8MB's of RAM that the N64/64DD has and the 4 controller ports make it ideal. Remember - WebTV only has 2MB of RAM, and no disk drive. And it is very nice. Think of the possibilities on the N64/64DD. And - it does not have to be done by Nintendo. ANY company could make a web browser/internet client for the N64. But honestly, these things are the future. I am a developer and many corporations are seriously moving away from "computers" because of their high cost and their difficult maintenance. Network Computers are ideal for 80% of all computer users. Most home users do not need a 400MHZ Pentium II that costs $4000 to surf the web and read e-mail. The N64 could provide ALL that functionality, upgradeability, plug-and-play, multi-player games, AND cost less than $400 total. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] Rare's Two Secret N64 Games Date: 11 Feb 1998 00:55:38 -0600 Tippyman wrote: > > At 10:56 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I think that one of those two games is Killer Instinct 3. I heard a while > >back that Rare was developing a 3D fighter for N64. KI3 would be a huge hit > >on the N64 not only because Rare would be programming it but also because of > >the KI name. > > Yea, but they made KIGold too...wouldn't it stand to reason that the fools > who spent money on it wouldn't want to do it again? Even if the game is > good, there is that first N64 attempt... So why would anyone want to buy Turok 2? Street Fighter ? Tekken 3? Virtua Fighter 3? Cruisn' The World? Mario 64 2? Madden 99? QBClub 99? Why would anyone buy ANY sequal? > > Personally, I think Ki Gold is a blemish on Rare's outstanding track > record...IMHO, desde luego :) Why? KIGold is great, fun, and an excellent Arcade port. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: raider fan Subject: Re: [N64] Here's a Topic for ya...Another DD titles turns into a cartridge title. Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:00:33 -0600 Brian Sinclair wrote: > > Just a note. Nintendo has publically stated in the past that the N64 could > not handle cart sizes bigger than 32 megs. As such, there doesn't seem > anyway beyond the development of the 64DD that games larger than Zelda will > ever reach the gamers out there. Where have they said this? It is not in the N64's technical specs... [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:32:58 +0000 At 15:31 10/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Speaking of the N64 port, what the hell is wrong with them? 2 player >deathmatch? OoOh, I'm creaming my pants. ;) I think that anyone with a >brain in their head would opt for the cheaper PC version, just for the >multiplayer. [high horse mode on] You got to remember that the majority of the world *doesn't* have access to the Internet. The majority of console owners *don't* have access to Quake on their PCs. So *any* sort of multiplay option is better than none, and it'll be a selling point. Sure, 4 player would have been better, but 2 player is still nice. Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grzegorz Kosno Subject: RE: [N64] Shigeru Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:46:25 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD36FB.3A447CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>If Mario-creator Shigeru died: >>- what would happen with Nintendo? >>- what would happen with the gaming world? >>- what would happen with his games? >> >That's kind of morbid don't you think? Yes, I do think so! But remember, he will not live forever. Also, I can not think of any person who is as good as he is. Sorry to all of you, If I brought up a too "morbid" topic, but life does not consist of pleasure alone. I usually think about the future, both good and bad aspects... 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Are you speaking of Shigeru Miyamoto? You should put >their last name with their first name...it's very hard to understand >who your talking about if you don't. OK! I'll put the full name next time I'll be referring to a person. Both the first name and the last name :) Sorry for this one! I was too lazy to check the correct spelling of "Miyamoto". 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Would >any of the Euro-Pal gamers out there care to fill in the details? I've >only ever used S-VHS myself, but can definitely see a noticeable >improvement in resolution from trusty old RCA's... I don't think that it's a case with resolutions, I would call it color or pixel sharpness. The amount of pixels transferred to the TV is still the same. But, with lower quality cables, the pixels seem to be "bleeding". From my experience and some info from my friend, I can give you such a list (from worst to best): 1. RF 2. RCA 3. S-VHS and 21-pin Scart (there shouldn't be any quality difference between these two) S-VHS uses a Chroma-Luminance signal 21-pin Scart uses a Red-Green-Blue signal The N64 has outputs for S-VHS and RCA only. 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OoOh, I'm creaming my pants. ;) I think that anyone with a > >brain in their head would opt for the cheaper PC version, just for the > >multiplayer. > > [high horse mode on] > You got to remember that the majority of the world *doesn't* have access to > the Internet. The majority of console owners *don't* have access to Quake > on their PCs. So *any* sort of multiplay option is better than none, and > it'll be a selling point. Sure, 4 player would have been better, but 2 > player is still nice. > > Brian I am going to have to disagree. 2 player is standard. I believe it is expected when a game is released on todays NG systems. 32 bits can handle it, 64 can also, so why not use it. Sure it may add some time to development, but thats where true replay value comes in. I love most Nintendo games, for a while. Then they are beaten and stay in my case. Goldeneye, and other 4 players keep being used while the 1 or 2 player games sit, or get sold. Developers need to listen up to what ALL the gamers are saying. If its GOTTA be 2 player (shouldn't), at least make a coop mode. Come on developers get off your cans. John Carson (jcarson@comp.uark.edu) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Mander Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:28:04 +0000 I get seriously annoyed when deathmatches do not have the monsters in the game as well. I remember Doom had it for the PC but since then most of the effort was to make 32 multiplayer games rather than intelligent bots to join in with! [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:41:58 +0000 At 08:20 11/02/98 -0600, you wrote: > >I am going to have to disagree. 2 player is standard. I believe it is >expected when a game is released on todays NG systems. 32 bits can handle >it, 64 can also, so why not use it. Sure it may add some time to >development, but thats where true replay value comes in. I love most >Nintendo games, for a while. Then they are beaten and stay in my case. >Goldeneye, and other 4 players keep being used while the 1 or 2 player >games sit, or get sold. Developers need to listen up to what ALL the >gamers are saying. If its GOTTA be 2 player (shouldn't), at least >make a coop mode. Come on developers get off your cans. Not every game is suited to multiplayer gaming for a start. And *not* all gamers are "calling out" for multiplay! There's a lot of people out there still playing single player games y'know... As for 'may add some time to development', see other threads... Developers don't like things that add time to schedules. And technically, a lot of games 'internally' can't handle more than one player. Each time you add a player, you're adding an extra camera that needs checking, you're adding a whole new set of collisions, movements, scoring, & processing in general. Depending on the game, you could be talking about an exponential rise in calculations! I'm not defending Quake64 here, just talking in general terms. But *surely* 2 player is better than not at all? Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Mander Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:49:03 +0000 I certainly wouldn't say exponential increase by adding in extra multiplayer! Surely there should be less code. An opponent needs no AI as they are meant to be intelligent to start with and when a game has computer opponents then surely the code has to check for collisions and know where all opponents are anyway. And surely saving scores cant be that intensive. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Baird" Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:58:18 +0000 At 14:49 11/02/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I certainly wouldn't say exponential increase by adding in extra multiplayer! >Surely there should be less code. An opponent needs no AI as they >are meant to be intelligent to start with and when a game has computer >opponents >then surely the code has to check for collisions and know where all opponents >are anyway. And surely saving scores cant be that intensive. It all depends on the game type. A first person shooter, with very little 'going on', yes, that *should* be able to chuck in another player relatively straightforward (not considering any display calculations...). But something complicated such as a C&C game, that will require a *lot* more processing. Think of it this way, each player is an 'eye' on the world, with the game calculating the effects & consequences of that screen. With each player added, the program has to calculate an extra 'eye' each cycle. That takes up valuable processing time. And there's definitely *more* code by using multiplayer, not *less*. Every single piece of logic the programmer builds has to get looped round to execute for each player. Yep you gain cycles by not having AI, but someone else on the list *demanded* coop mode multiplayer games!! AI + 2 Players = overload ;-) Brian [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Bauers Subject: [N64] s-video Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:16:55 -0600 I find it interesting that so many people are saying that it is a significant improvement using the s-video jacks over the composite input. The reason I find it interesting, is that I messed around for 10 minutes one day with switching back and forth. I could never detect an obvious difference. Admittedly I am not a videophile, and may not have known what to look for. But some posts seem to indicate that I should have been blown away by the difference. Unfortunatly I did not have someone around to switch the connection for me and ask me which was which. Is there someone with time on their hands and a friend do do this experiment for all of us? I am not currently using s-video because I have my N64 at the girlfriends place and none of her TV's have it. I have another theory on this. My s-vdieo equiped TV is a 27" sony. Is is possible that some TV's demonstrate the difference better than others? Later Michael Bauers DGS [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siemon Subject: [N64] 2 Throwing knives Date: 11 Feb 1998 18:12:57 +0100 Hey all, I just got the 2 Throwing knives cheat, and it's a cool cheat. Getting it is easy, I got it in one try. This is the way I did it: Open the cell door, hit the guard, free Natalya, open next door, go to the left fire sometimes at the guards but keep on running (with the soviet you got from the guard). When you entered the stairs go to the right and open the door, go to the right again and keep on walking until you can enter the big room or turn right. Turn right and go in the very first door you'll see. Get the "dat thing", and go back to the big room. Wait for natalya, she'll set of a timer. Until the timer appears, keep on firing and once you're almost dead go into the glass door and walk up. As soon as the timer appears on screen, leave the level and you should have got the cheat. (don't wait for natalya) yours sincerely, -Siemon siemon@huizen.nhkanaal.nl ICQ= 5750532 Head HTML designer/Webmaster of Game Nation, http://www.gamenation.base.org [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stryder