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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 17:51:26 -0700
From: "Dexter S."
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
Thraxen wrote:
> > Thrax, you make a very *very* good XBOX apologist. :)
> >
> > RS
>
> Why would I apologize for anything?
> http://home.swbell.net/rahl/thraxen.htm
>
> Stryder
You keep showing that off and someone's going to steal it one of these
days.
Dexter
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:54:02 -0500
From: "Eric C"
Subject: [NG] New Sonics Coming to Cube
http://cube.ign.com/articles/363/363789p1.html
"Publisher and developer Sega announced today that it has shipped one
million units of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for Nintendo's next-generation
console worldwide. The company also revealed that it is underway with two
new GameCube Sonic titles including another in the Sonic Adventure series
and Sonic Mega Collection. The firm will also release Sonic Advance 2 for
Game Boy Advance, it noted."
This has me excited for a few reasons. Naturally, I'm happy that more Sonic
games are coming to the Nintendo platforms (though it was definitely to be
expected). However, this also seems to contradict a rumor report made by
EGM. They said that apparantly SEGA is going to scrap the "Adventure"
series of Sonic games and make more games like the Genesis classics. This
came from the same report on how Rare is supposed to be multiplatform.
Maybe they were wrong about Conker's sequel on XBOX? Ok, so that's just
speculation right now, but it gives me a little more hope. Either way, nice
announcement. :-)
- -Satoshi
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 17:58:29 -0700
From: "Dexter S."
Subject: Re: [NG] New Sonics Coming to Cube
Gamespot reported the same. I guess this is not rumour.
Eric C wrote:
> http://cube.ign.com/articles/363/363789p1.html
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:01:25 -0500
From: Thraxen
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
> Nice list. A lot of cross platform ports though.>>>>
Yes, but I usually buy multiplatform games on the most powerful system
unless there is large gap of time involved. Why buy a game on the PS2 or GC
when I can get the same game in DD 5.1, pro-scan, and possibly better
graphics on the XBOX? Even if there is a large gap of time, I may wait
anyway. That's what I did with Silent Hill 2. I passed on the PS2 version
and picked up the XBOX version with DD 5.1, pro-scan, and the ability to
turn the grain effects off from the menus. Smae would go for any games on
the PS2 and GC, I'd go with the GC nearly every time.
Stryder
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:02:43 -0500
From: Thraxen
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
> > Why would I apologize for anything?
> > http://home.swbell.net/rahl/thraxen.htm
> >
> > Stryder
>
> You keep showing that off and someone's going to steal it one of these
> days.
>
> Dexter>>>
Just trying to make a point that I have no personal interest in Sega games
being on any one system. Besides, what you don't see in the picture are the
5 firearms that I own. So come and get it!
Stryder
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:15:57 -0700
From: "Dexter S."
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
>
>
> Just trying to make a point that I have no personal interest in Sega games
> being on any one system. Besides, what you don't see in the picture are the
> 5 firearms that I own. So come and get it!
Hey hey! Guns? Ok, I'm scared. Here in Canada, we don't have guns, you see.
So you can probably take all of the West Coast with your 5 firearms before the
Canadians can respond
Think about it. all the EBs in in the west coast under your diabolical
control. Xbox for $2? They will really beat the PS2 then ;)
Dexter
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:23:12 -0500
From: Thraxen
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
> Hey hey! Guns? Ok, I'm scared. Here in Canada, we don't have guns, you
see.
> So you can probably take all of the West Coast with your 5 firearms before
the
> Canadians can respond
LOL...well, I do some occasional sport shooting.
Stryder
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:00:05 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
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From: Dexter S.=20
To: ngamers@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
Oh. My 'Swiss Cheese Memory' forgot to include on my PS2 list: Grand =
Theft Auto 3: Vice City.
I don't consider it a good sign if they haven't yet showed anything of =
the game and its supposed to come out this year.=20
It's either a marketing ploy to play down expectations, or Rockstar =
knows Vice City is simply not original enough to get good previews =
accross the board.=20
Dexter=20
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Yeah, that reminds me of another company, now who is it? Nintendo? ;-)
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Oh. My=20
'Swiss Cheese Memory' forgot to include on my PS2 list: Grand Theft =
Auto 3:=20
Vice City.
I don't consider it a good sign =
if they=20
haven't yet showed anything of the game and its supposed to come out =
this=20
year.=20
It's either a marketing ploy to play down expectations, or Rockstar =
knows=20
Vice City is simply not original enough to get good previews accross =
the=20
board.=20
Dexter=20
Yeah, that reminds me of another company, now who is it? Nintendo?=20
;-)
~ Dave ~
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:03:31 -0500
From: "Geoff Taylor"
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
> How does the fall schedule for xbox look?
> lloyd>>>>
Here's my list that I'm watching out for. I'm sure some will drop from my
list and even then I wont be able to afford everything at release. I prefer
bargain bins and Half.com for most of my purchases. Why pay $50 when just
four-six weeks later I can get 'em for $35?
Enclave
NFL Blitz 20-03 (haven't updated since the original on N64)
Dead to Rights
Dragon's Lair
Soccer Slam
Toe Jam & Earl III
Pac-Man World 2
Blinx
Vexx
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball
Malice
Splinter Cell
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Superman: The Man of Steel
The Lost
Geoff
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:04:00 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] Star Fox Adventures
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From: Eric C=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
>From: "Dave Rhodes"
>Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:06:31 -0400
>
>
>
>Oh. My 'Swiss Cheese Memory' forgot to include on my PS2 list: Grand =
Theft
>Auto 3: Vice City.
Weren't you also interested in Star Fox?
-Satoshi
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I was. But now, I dunno. There's so many other titles that I would like =
more, Sat Fox Adventures (and buying a GBA) have fallen of my most =
important list.
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To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>To:=20
<NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>
>Subject:=20
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>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:06:31=20
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>
>
>
>Oh. My 'Swiss Cheese Memory' =
forgot to=20
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>Auto 3: Vice=20
City.
Weren't you also interested in Star =
Fox?
-Satoshi
I was. But now, I dunno. =
There's so many=20
other titles that I would like more, Sat Fox Adventures (and buying a =
GBA) have=20
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:07:17 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
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From: Thraxen=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
> Thrax, you make a very *very* good XBOX apologist. :)
>
> RS
Why would I apologize for anything?
http://home.swbell.net/rahl/thraxen.htm
Stryder
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moved since last time you took that picture. ;-)
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shoot the=20
messenger
> Thrax, you make a very *very* good XBOX =
apologist. =20
:)
>
> RS
Why would I apologize for anything?
http://home.swbell.net/r=
ahl/thraxen.htm
Stryder
Maybe it's just my =
imagination, but it=20
looks as if the Dreamcast has not moved since last time you took that =
picture.=20
;-)
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:09:38 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] cross platform titles
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From: Dexter S.=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
Nice list. A lot of cross platform ports though.
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Yes, but the XBOX has shown time and time again that it always seems to =
get the best versions of the cross-platform titles.=20
~ Dave ~
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dead?
Nice list. A lot of cross platform ports =
though.
Yes, but the XBOX has shown =
time and time=20
again that it always seems to get the best versions of the =
cross-platform=20
titles.
~ Dave ~
TreyTable@msn.com
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:12:45 EDT
From: DarkBastion@aol.com
Subject: Re: [NG] oldtimers
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In a message dated 7/1/02 2:52:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:
> I joined in March 1999. Who has been here before that? I know Dex has
> and Eric I believe. Is D Fentie still here?
>
>
>
>
> lloyd
>
I've been here since it was [N64] in the subject line.
~Matt
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
- - J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945,
after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New
Mexico.
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In a message dated 7/1/02 2:52:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:
I joined in March 1999. Who has been here before that? I know Dex has
and Eric I believe. Is D Fentie still here?
lloyd
I've been here since it was [N64] in the subject line.
~Matt
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
- - J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945, after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New Mexico.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:11:47 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] New Sonics Coming to Cube
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From: Eric C=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: [NG] New Sonics Coming to Cube
http://cube.ign.com/articles/363/363789p1.html
"Publisher and developer Sega announced today that it has shipped one
million units of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for Nintendo's =
next-generation
console worldwide. The company also revealed that it is underway with =
two
new GameCube Sonic titles including another in the Sonic Adventure =
series
and Sonic Mega Collection. The firm will also release Sonic Advance 2 =
for
Game Boy Advance, it noted."
This has me excited for a few reasons. Naturally, I'm happy that more =
Sonic
games are coming to the Nintendo platforms (though it was definitely =
to be
expected). However, this also seems to contradict a rumor report made =
by
EGM. They said that apparantly SEGA is going to scrap the "Adventure"
series of Sonic games and make more games like the Genesis classics. =
This
came from the same report on how Rare is supposed to be multiplatform.
Maybe they were wrong about Conker's sequel on XBOX? Ok, so that's =
just
speculation right now, but it gives me a little more hope. Either =
way, nice
announcement. :-)
-Satoshi
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That is good to hear. Maybe Sonic Adventure 3 will get a good camera, =
like in Jak & Daxter for the PS2.
- -- Dave --
TreyTable@msn.com
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to=20
Cube
http://cube.ign.c=
om/articles/363/363789p1.html
"Publisher=20
and developer Sega announced today that it has shipped one
million =
units of=20
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for Nintendo's next-generation
console =
worldwide.=20
The company also revealed that it is underway with two
new GameCube =
Sonic=20
titles including another in the Sonic Adventure series
and Sonic =
Mega=20
Collection. The firm will also release Sonic Advance 2 for
Game Boy =
Advance, it noted."
This has me excited for a few =
reasons. =20
Naturally, I'm happy that more Sonic
games are coming to the =
Nintendo=20
platforms (though it was definitely to be
expected). However, =
this=20
also seems to contradict a rumor report made by
EGM. They =
said that=20
apparantly SEGA is going to scrap the "Adventure"
series of Sonic =
games and=20
make more games like the Genesis classics. This
came from the =
same=20
report on how Rare is supposed to be multiplatform.
Maybe they were =
wrong=20
about Conker's sequel on XBOX? Ok, so that's just
speculation =
right=20
now, but it gives me a little more hope. Either way,=20
nice
announcement. :-)
-Satoshi
That is good to hear. Maybe =
Sonic=20
Adventure 3 will get a good camera, like in Jak & Daxter for the=20
PS2.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:12:59 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
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From: Thraxen=20
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
> Nice list. A lot of cross platform ports though.>>>>
Yes, but I usually buy multiplatform games on the most powerful system
unless there is large gap of time involved. Why buy a game on the PS2 =
or GC
when I can get the same game in DD 5.1, pro-scan, and possibly better
graphics on the XBOX? Even if there is a large gap of time, I may =
wait
anyway. That's what I did with Silent Hill 2. I passed on the PS2 =
version
and picked up the XBOX version with DD 5.1, pro-scan, and the ability =
to
turn the grain effects off from the menus. Smae would go for any =
games on
the PS2 and GC, I'd go with the GC nearly every time.
Stryder
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So did you buy Genma Onimusha?
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> Nice list. A lot of cross platform ports =
though.>>>>
Yes, but I usually buy multiplatform =
games on=20
the most powerful system
unless there is large gap of time =
involved. =20
Why buy a game on the PS2 or GC
when I can get the same game in DD =
5.1,=20
pro-scan, and possibly better
graphics on the XBOX? =
Even if=20
there is a large gap of time, I may wait
anyway. That's what =
I did=20
with Silent Hill 2. I passed on the PS2 version
and picked up =
the=20
XBOX version with DD 5.1, pro-scan, and the ability to
turn the =
grain=20
effects off from the menus. Smae would go for any games =
on
the PS2=20
and GC, I'd go with the GC nearly every time.
Stryder
So did you buy Genma=20
Onimusha?
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:14:09 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't steal my stuff
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
> > Why would I apologize for anything?
> > http://home.swbell.net/rahl/thraxen.htm
> >
> > Stryder
>
> You keep showing that off and someone's going to steal it one of =
these
> days.
>
> Dexter>>>
Just trying to make a point that I have no personal interest in Sega =
games
being on any one system. Besides, what you don't see in the picture =
are the
5 firearms that I own. So come and get it!
Stryder
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Yeah, but you keep mentioning that you're out of town a lot too. ;-)
~ Dave ~
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> > Why would I apologize for anything?
> =
> http://home.swbell.net/r=
ahl/thraxen.htm
>=20
>
> > Stryder
>
> You keep showing that off =
and=20
someone's going to steal it one of these
> days.
>
> =
Dexter>>>
Just trying to make a point that I have no =
personal=20
interest in Sega games
being on any one system. Besides, what =
you=20
don't see in the picture are the
5 firearms that I own. So =
come and=20
get it!
Stryder
Yeah, but you keep mentioning =
that you're=20
out of town a lot too. ;-)
~ Dave ~
TreyTable@msn.com
I pledge =
allegiance to=20
the flag, Michael Jackson is a fag.
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:20:31 -0700
From: "Dexter S."
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
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In Nintendo's case, its usually a delay when they don't show a game.
Dave Rhodes wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dexter S.
> To: ngamers@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
>
>
> > Oh. My 'Swiss Cheese Memory' forgot to include on my PS2
> > list: Grand Theft Auto 3: Vice City.
>
> I don't consider it a good sign if they haven't yet showed
> anything of the game and its supposed to come out this year.
>
> It's either a marketing ploy to play down expectations, or
> Rockstar knows Vice City is simply not original enough to
> get good previews accross the board.
>
> Dexter
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, that reminds me of another company, now who is it? Nintendo?
> ;-) ~ Dave ~
> TreyTable@msn.com
> I pledge allegiance to the flag, Michael Jackson is a fag.
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In Nintendo's case, its usually a delay when they don't show
a game.
Dave Rhodes wrote:
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] xbox is dead?
Oh. My
'Swiss Cheese Memory' forgot to include on my PS2 list: Grand Theft Auto
3: Vice City.
I don't consider it a good sign if they haven't yet showed anything of
the game and its supposed to come out this year.
It's either a marketing ploy to play down expectations, or Rockstar
knows Vice City is simply not original enough to get good previews accross
the board.
Dexter
Yeah, that reminds me of another company, now who is it? Nintendo?
;-) ~ Dave ~
TreyTable@msn.com
I pledge allegiance to the
flag, Michael Jackson is a fag.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:17:22 -0400
From: "Dave Rhodes"
Subject: Re: [NG] Please don't shoot the messenger
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>
>
> Just trying to make a point that I have no personal interest in Sega =
games
> being on any one system. Besides, what you don't see in the picture =
are the
> 5 firearms that I own. So come and get it!
Hey hey! Guns? Ok, I'm scared. Here in Canada, we don't have guns, =
you see.
So you can probably take all of the West Coast with your 5 firearms =
before the
Canadians can respond
Think about it. all the EBs in in the west coast under your =
diabolical
control. Xbox for $2? They will really beat the PS2 then ;)
Dexter
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They don't have guns, but they do have hockey. They're sharpening their =
skates as we speak, they intend to invade Wisconsin and steal all their =
cheese. ;-)
- -- Dave --
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