From: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (ngamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ngamers-digest V1 #26 Reply-To: ngamers Sender: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk ngamers-digest Tuesday, August 27 2002 Volume 01 : Number 026 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:02:37 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >From: "Dave RHODES" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:59:55 +0000 > > > > >>From: Vi On >>Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >>To: n64 >>Subject: [NG] Insider japan >>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:20:54 -0400 (EDT) >> >> >>very interesting this week for people who like sale numbers. > >Who'd have thought that you'd see things like this: > >38. Dead or Alive 3 - Tecmo, XBOX, 2/22: 144,613 > >41. .hack Vol. 1 - Bandai, PS2, 6/20: 132,349 > >55. Final Fantasy XI - Square, PS2, 5/16: 108,463 > >--Dave > I gotta be honest: every time I see a new sales chart from Japan, I wonder if Magicbox made a typo and really meant the sales of FFX. I don't believe how low the sales are. Oh, and how about Pokemon Crystal still making the top ten of the first half of 2002 despite being released in December 2000? WOOHOO! :-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:03:29 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] sonic mega collection >From: "Dave RHODES" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] sonic mega collection >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:39:20 +0000 > > >Ha! Unless you don't have Sonic Advance I really don't think you'll see a >new Sonic game for a while, unless you never played Sonic Adventure. > >--Dave > Um, Sonic Advance 2. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:48:11 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: [NG] Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicle First Footage www.bh.wakwak.com/~bill/mov/gc_cm_ffcc.mpg It's part of a new nintendo ad campaign in Japan Dexter [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:58:10 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: [NG] Updated Link to FF: Crystal Chronicle Footage Forgot that the link posted in my first e-mail was the short excerpt. Here's the full ad, with additional footage of what appears to be a boy from the game at the end. http://www.bh.wakwak.com/~bill/mov/gc_cm.mpg [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:25:50 +0000 From: "Dave RHODES" Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >From: Vi On >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:31:13 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > Who'd have thought that you'd see things like this: > > > > 38. Dead or Alive 3 - Tecmo, XBOX, 2/22: 144,613 > >You are surprise by the huge amount of sale number or so little? >It was xbox's only good launch title. xbox only sold about 250k units so >far in japan i think. Halo launch later but didn't sell well as you can >see. > > > 41. .hack Vol. 1 - Bandai, PS2, 6/20: 132,349 > >I saw a preview of this game on TechTV and it doesn't look that good. I >guess ppl spent time playing Kingdom Hearts and Ocean Star 3. > > > > 55. Final Fantasy XI - Square, PS2, 5/16: 108,463 > >I think they should of call this game Final Fantasy World or some other >name instead of part 11. I wonder if phantasy star online sold better >than it. > >-Vi 1. I was surprised to see any XBOX game over a Squaresoft game. 2. .hack (to me) looks pretty darn cool. I too saw it on Extended Play. Maybe it appeals to gamers who can't afford, or just can't plain get, Broadband. ;-) 3. GOTO Line 1 ** Dave ** TreyTable@msn.com (insert witty sig. here) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 01:16:25 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: [NG] A question to Dave Dave, are you using that Voodoo 3 in your old comp? I could use one on one of my computers Dexter [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:32:50 +0000 From: "Dave RHODES" Subject: Re: [NG] A question to Dave >From: "Dexter S." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] A question to Dave >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 01:16:25 -0700 > > >Dave, are you using that Voodoo 3 in your old comp? > >I could use one on one of my computers > >Dexter > > The only thing I intend to salvage from my old PC (for my new PC) is the CD-RW Drive. Everything else, two (pieces?) of 64 MB RAM (no idea what kind, all I know is that I'm told is it won't work in my new PC, and since I'm getting 512 MB of Dance Dance Revolution (DDR) SDRAM I don't need the current RAM I have), a 16 or 32 MB Voodoo 3 Card (god, one thing that's ticking me off is that I can't locate the box for my Voodoo 3, which is bothersome since all my X-Men cards from the early 1990s are in it and I don't know how to store the Voodoo 3 card or even what kind it is exactly), a 40x CD-ROM, the internal AC Adapter, the mouse (standard PS/2 Wheel Mouse), what's left of the keyboard (went ape shift on it when the PC died), the burnt out non-spinning Hard Drive (that's what really died), the motherboard (of course, maybe somebody will want an AMD K6-2 475 MHz chip and board?), and that's about it. Oh, and the tower case thing, the one with all the Hello Kitty stickers on it. ;-) I'm keeping the Printer (Compaq IJ 300 - like anybody would really want that anyway), the Pacific Digital CD-RW, the monitor I've had since the 486 (I'm thinking VGA Box if I can find one), and that's it, I guess. Nobody I contacted wants the Voodoo 3 card, and it's of no use to me. I may be able to sell everything else to a repair shop, who knows. Yeah, so if you want the Voodoo 3 card, send me an e-mail or something, I'm still trying to find the box for it, but I'm sure something could be arranged. (As you may know, I'm not rolling in money, so if the shipping costs are high (like more than $5 USD) then I would need some assitance in shipping costs.... but fear not, you can have the Voodoo 3 card for basically free of charge) ** Dave ** TreyTable@msn.com (insert money here) ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:47:37 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] A question to Dave you should have gotten the HD replaced Damn, I was hoping to get your Voodoo 3 :P Dexter Dave RHODES wrote: > >From: "Dexter S." > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: [NG] A question to Dave > >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 01:16:25 -0700 > > > > > >Dave, are you using that Voodoo 3 in your old comp? > > > >I could use one on one of my computers > > > >Dexter > > > > > > The only thing I intend to salvage from my old PC (for my new PC) is the > CD-RW Drive. > > Everything else, two (pieces?) of 64 MB RAM (no idea what kind, all I know > is that I'm told is it won't work in my new PC, and since I'm getting 512 MB > of Dance Dance Revolution (DDR) SDRAM I don't need the current RAM I have), > a 16 or 32 MB Voodoo 3 Card (god, one thing that's ticking me off is that I > can't locate the box for my Voodoo 3, which is bothersome since all my X-Men > cards from the early 1990s are in it and I don't know how to store the > Voodoo 3 card or even what kind it is exactly), a 40x CD-ROM, the internal > AC Adapter, the mouse (standard PS/2 Wheel Mouse), what's left of the > keyboard (went ape shift on it when the PC died), the burnt out non-spinning > Hard Drive (that's what really died), the motherboard (of course, maybe > somebody will want an AMD K6-2 475 MHz chip and board?), and that's about > it. Oh, and the tower case thing, the one with all the Hello Kitty stickers > on it. ;-) > > I'm keeping the Printer (Compaq IJ 300 - like anybody would really want that > anyway), the Pacific Digital CD-RW, the monitor I've had since the 486 (I'm > thinking VGA Box if I can find one), and that's it, I guess. > > Nobody I contacted wants the Voodoo 3 card, and it's of no use to me. I may > be able to sell everything else to a repair shop, who knows. Yeah, so if you > want the Voodoo 3 card, send me an e-mail or something, I'm still trying to > find the box for it, but I'm sure something could be arranged. (As you may > know, I'm not rolling in money, so if the shipping costs are high (like more > than $5 USD) then I would need some assitance in shipping costs.... but fear > not, you can have the Voodoo 3 card for basically free of charge) > > ** Dave ** > TreyTable@msn.com > (insert money here) ;-) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:04:41 +0000 From: "Dave RHODES" Subject: Re: [NG] A question to Dave >From: "Dexter S." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] A question to Dave >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:47:37 -0700 > >you should have gotten the HD replaced > >Damn, I was hoping to get your Voodoo 3 :P > >Dexter > And pass up on getting a new PC? ;-) ** Dave ** TreyTable@msn.com (insert witty sig. here) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:09:01 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric C" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > >From: "Dave RHODES" > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:59:55 +0000 > > > > > > > > > >>From: Vi On > >>Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >>To: n64 > >>Subject: [NG] Insider japan > >>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:20:54 -0400 (EDT) > >> > >> > >>very interesting this week for people who like sale numbers. > > > >Who'd have thought that you'd see things like this: > > > >38. Dead or Alive 3 - Tecmo, XBOX, 2/22: 144,613 > > > >41. .hack Vol. 1 - Bandai, PS2, 6/20: 132,349 > > > >55. Final Fantasy XI - Square, PS2, 5/16: 108,463 > > > >--Dave > > > I gotta be honest: every time I see a new sales chart from Japan, I wonder > if Magicbox made a typo and really meant the sales of FFX. I don't believe > how low the sales are. Oh, and how about Pokemon Crystal still making the > top ten of the first half of 2002 despite being released in December 2000? > WOOHOO! :-) > -Satoshi MMORPGs have never been popular in Japan. EverQuest has its Japanese addicts but the ratio of players to population is very low compared to the US as well as European countries. So, it doesn't surprise me one bit that the numbers are so low. It doesn't make FFXI a bad game. Unless you are a crowd follower, that is... I'm personally looking forward to the game. I wont buy it at launch unless I hear something very assuring that it's good. So far, I've played EverQuest, Dark Ages of Camelot, Anarchy Online and Asheron's Call... all PC MMORPGs (and btw, PSO is not a MMORPG and should never be compared to either of those four or FFXI) and I only really enjoyed EQ even though I can't really name any horrible flaws in the others. All are quality games, but only one suited my interests enough to keep me going. MMORPGs are still in their infancy. Square is due credit for trying with FFXI. Geoff [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:24:23 -0600 From: Don Subject: [NG] Cnet rating At cnet they let people rate games as I'm sure you know but I read one that was bashing the gamecube that I've copied and pasted here for you to read... I find it kinda interesting......: Taken from http://www.cnet.com site: ""HOIRRID" OMG this systm is SOO bad compaard to PLAYERSTATIONX 2 ecbcause the GAMES ARE FOR SMALL CHALDRON LOL LOOK AT LUGIS MANTSHON IT LOOKS LIKE A CHALDRENS GAME LOLLOLOLLOLOOL THE PLAYERSTationxx 2 is sos much nbettter becasuesee of it has DAD OR OLIVE 2! PEOPOLE SAYI THEAT DAED OR ALIVE 3 ON LAMEBOXX HAS BETTEER GRAPHIX BVUT THAY R RONG! SANWYONE WITHJE EYES! CAN SEE THAT THE PLAYERSTAION VERSON IS MUCH BETter than the LAMEBOX (LOLOLOL( vesern OKL SO DONT BY THE KIDDDDY CUBE (LOLOL I MAD THAT UP JUST THEN!!!!!!!) OR TE LAMO BOX B ECASE PLAYERSTATION 2 IS MUCH BETTER OK ,my borhter things so too and HE"S THE BESTR GAM PLAYER IN THE WERLD" http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-6342415-1318-8688672.html?pn=10&lb=0&ob=0&tag=st.ce.6342415.bottom.8688672-10 [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:21:50 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Cnet rating >From: Don >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: ngamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] Cnet rating >Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:24:23 -0600 > >At cnet they let people rate games as I'm sure you know but I read one that >was >bashing the gamecube that I've copied and pasted here for you to read... I >find >it kinda interesting......: > >Taken from http://www.cnet.com site: > >""HOIRRID" >OMG this systm is SOO bad compaard to PLAYERSTATIONX 2 ecbcause the GAMES >ARE >FOR SMALL CHALDRON LOL LOOK AT LUGIS MANTSHON IT LOOKS LIKE A CHALDRENS >GAME >LOLLOLOLLOLOOL THE PLAYERSTationxx 2 is sos much nbettter becasuesee of it >has >DAD OR OLIVE 2! PEOPOLE SAYI THEAT DAED OR ALIVE 3 ON LAMEBOXX HAS BETTEER >GRAPHIX BVUT THAY R RONG! SANWYONE WITHJE EYES! CAN SEE THAT THE >PLAYERSTAION >VERSON IS MUCH BETter than the LAMEBOX (LOLOLOL( vesern OKL SO DONT BY THE >KIDDDDY CUBE (LOLOL I MAD THAT UP JUST THEN!!!!!!!) OR TE LAMO BOX B ECASE >PLAYERSTATION 2 IS MUCH BETTER OK ,my borhter things so too and HE"S THE >BESTR >GAM PLAYER IN THE WERLD" > >http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-6342415-1318-8688672.html?pn=10&lb=0&ob=0&tag=st.ce.6342415.bottom.8688672-10 > > I just hate reading things like this. It's such a huge blow to any faith I have in humanity. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:41:01 +0000 From: "Dave RHODES" Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >From: "Geoff Taylor" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan >Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:09:01 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric C" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:02 AM >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > > > > >From: "Dave RHODES" > > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:59:55 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Vi On > > >>Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > >>To: n64 > > >>Subject: [NG] Insider japan > > >>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:20:54 -0400 (EDT) > > >> > > >> > > >>very interesting this week for people who like sale numbers. > > > > > >Who'd have thought that you'd see things like this: > > > > > >38. Dead or Alive 3 - Tecmo, XBOX, 2/22: 144,613 > > > > > >41. .hack Vol. 1 - Bandai, PS2, 6/20: 132,349 > > > > > >55. Final Fantasy XI - Square, PS2, 5/16: 108,463 > > > > > >--Dave > > > > > I gotta be honest: every time I see a new sales chart from Japan, I >wonder > > if Magicbox made a typo and really meant the sales of FFX. I don't >believe > > how low the sales are. Oh, and how about Pokemon Crystal still making >the > > top ten of the first half of 2002 despite being released in December >2000? > > WOOHOO! :-) > > -Satoshi > >MMORPGs have never been popular in Japan. EverQuest has its Japanese >addicts but the ratio of players to population is very low compared to the >US as well as European countries. So, it doesn't surprise me one bit that >the numbers are so low. It doesn't make FFXI a bad game. Unless you are a >crowd follower, that is... > >I'm personally looking forward to the game. I wont buy it at launch unless >I hear something very assuring that it's good. So far, I've played >EverQuest, Dark Ages of Camelot, Anarchy Online and Asheron's Call... all >PC >MMORPGs (and btw, PSO is not a MMORPG and should never be compared to >either >of those four or FFXI) and I only really enjoyed EQ even though I can't >really name any horrible flaws in the others. All are quality games, but >only one suited my interests enough to keep me going. MMORPGs are still in >their infancy. Square is due credit for trying with FFXI. > >Geoff > I was just saying that this is the first time in a long time that a Final Fantasy game had done not super well in Japan. Last time that happened was with the Japanese version of Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest for the Super NES. It wasn't a knock against a MMORPG. ** Dave ** TreyTable@msn.com (insert witty sig. here) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:08:23 +0000 From: "Dave RHODES" Subject: Re: [NG] Cnet rating >From: Don >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: ngamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] Cnet rating >Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:24:23 -0600 > >At cnet they let people rate games as I'm sure you know but I read one that >was >bashing the gamecube that I've copied and pasted here for you to read... I >find >it kinda interesting......: > >Taken from http://www.cnet.com site: > >""HOIRRID" >OMG this systm is SOO bad compaard to PLAYERSTATIONX 2 ecbcause the GAMES >ARE >FOR SMALL CHALDRON LOL LOOK AT LUGIS MANTSHON IT LOOKS LIKE A CHALDRENS >GAME >LOLLOLOLLOLOOL THE PLAYERSTationxx 2 is sos much nbettter becasuesee of it >has >DAD OR OLIVE 2! PEOPOLE SAYI THEAT DAED OR ALIVE 3 ON LAMEBOXX HAS BETTEER >GRAPHIX BVUT THAY R RONG! SANWYONE WITHJE EYES! CAN SEE THAT THE >PLAYERSTAION >VERSON IS MUCH BETter than the LAMEBOX (LOLOLOL( vesern OKL SO DONT BY THE >KIDDDDY CUBE (LOLOL I MAD THAT UP JUST THEN!!!!!!!) OR TE LAMO BOX B ECASE >PLAYERSTATION 2 IS MUCH BETTER OK ,my borhter things so too and HE"S THE >BESTR >GAM PLAYER IN THE WERLD" > >http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-6342415-1318-8688672.html?pn=10&lb=0&ob=0&tag=st.ce.6342415.bottom.8688672-10 > > >[ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] This is why I say that some people shouldn't be allowed to have children. Oh, and Dad Or Olive 2 is still the best on the CreamCast. ;-) ** Dave ** TreyTable@msn.com (insert witty sig. here) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 14:51:43 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave RHODES" To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > > > > >From: "Geoff Taylor" > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > >Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:09:01 -0500 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Eric C" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:02 AM > >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > > > > > > > >From: "Dave RHODES" > > > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > > >Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan > > > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:59:55 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Vi On > > > >>Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > > > >>To: n64 > > > >>Subject: [NG] Insider japan > > > >>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:20:54 -0400 (EDT) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>very interesting this week for people who like sale numbers. > > > > > > > >Who'd have thought that you'd see things like this: > > > > > > > >38. Dead or Alive 3 - Tecmo, XBOX, 2/22: 144,613 > > > > > > > >41. .hack Vol. 1 - Bandai, PS2, 6/20: 132,349 > > > > > > > >55. Final Fantasy XI - Square, PS2, 5/16: 108,463 > > > > > > > >--Dave > > > > > > > I gotta be honest: every time I see a new sales chart from Japan, I > >wonder > > > if Magicbox made a typo and really meant the sales of FFX. I don't > >believe > > > how low the sales are. Oh, and how about Pokemon Crystal still making > >the > > > top ten of the first half of 2002 despite being released in December > >2000? > > > WOOHOO! :-) > > > -Satoshi > > > >MMORPGs have never been popular in Japan. EverQuest has its Japanese > >addicts but the ratio of players to population is very low compared to the > >US as well as European countries. So, it doesn't surprise me one bit that > >the numbers are so low. It doesn't make FFXI a bad game. Unless you are a > >crowd follower, that is... > > > >I'm personally looking forward to the game. I wont buy it at launch unless > >I hear something very assuring that it's good. So far, I've played > >EverQuest, Dark Ages of Camelot, Anarchy Online and Asheron's Call... all > >PC > >MMORPGs (and btw, PSO is not a MMORPG and should never be compared to > >either > >of those four or FFXI) and I only really enjoyed EQ even though I can't > >really name any horrible flaws in the others. All are quality games, but > >only one suited my interests enough to keep me going. MMORPGs are still in > >their infancy. Square is due credit for trying with FFXI. > > > >Geoff > > > > I was just saying that this is the first time in a long time that a Final > Fantasy game had done not super well in Japan. Last time that happened was > with the Japanese version of Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest for the Super NES. > It wasn't a knock against a MMORPG. > > > > ** Dave ** I realize you weren't knocking MMORPGs, but many here have never played one. It's quite a different experience from other game genres, including standard console and PC RPGs... BTW, PC MMORPGs work just fine with a modem. No need for broadband at all... Geoff [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:18:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] Insider japan Wow! Thanks dex Are you going to stay spoiler free for Episode III? Was it worth it for Ep 2? lloyd [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:04:40 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: [NG] Animal Crossing This game sounds really neat! - -Utilizes GameCube's real-time clock that parallels the real 24/7world - -Four seasons: Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall - -Explore life in a tranquil forest village, and make friends by talking, running errands, making presents, and writing letters - -Wear numerous outfits, use tools, work, buy your own house - -Collect items, insects, catch fish, dig, chop down trees and more! - -Arrange your furniture in accordance to Feng-Shui and get points according to how good of an interior decorator you are - -Transfer your character to your friends' Animal Crossing and bring back items from their worlds - -Win and play classic NES games like Donkey Kong, Ice Climber, ExciteBike, Pinball, Punchout! or Baseball, then transfer them to your GBA to play them on the go - -Up to four players -- friends, family, or both -- can exist in the world you create - -Watch the world change around you as data is saved to the included Animal Crossing Memory Card - -GBA Link and e-Reader support: access a hidden island, create your own patterns on GBA, download new song and texture data from trading cards, and more. http://cube.ign.com/articles/361/361068p1.html [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:48:02 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: [NG] Trailer to Console Wars part 2 is up http://www.discomedia.com/consolewars/index.php If you didn't already know, the trailer for the second part of "Console Wars" is done. If you haven't heard of Console Wars yet, be sure to watch part one and the trailer. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] EGM scores copied from Kaisei on the IGN boards Super Mario Sunshine Mark: 9.5 "sheer variety of gameplay" John R.: 9.5 "100 percent pure, unadulterated fun." Greg: 9.5 "the camera is still a little screwy (a throwback to the N64 game), but not to a point that SMS is unplayable." Best Feature: Gameplay variety and control Worst Feature: Lazy, awkward camera Animal Crossing Chris: 9.0 "It sounds super lame, but trust me - it's a blast." Jeanne: 9.0 "novel Hello Kitty-meets-The Sims concept." Greg: 9.5 "once you start playing, you won't be able to stop." Best Feature: Huge amount of things to do Worst Feature: Clunky interface Super Monkey Ball 2 Jonathan: 7.5 "every stage has some kind of clever gimmick" Greg: 8.5 "the most multiplayer fun I've had since Super SMash Bros. Melee." Chris: 9.0 "what really launches Monkey Ball into the stratosphere is the multiplayer." Best Feature: Lots o' minigames Worst Feature: No free-look camera Beach Spikers Chris: 8.0 "the most addictive gameplay this side of Virtua Tennis." Best Feature: The depth of Create-A-Player Worst Feature: Not enough minigames Mystic Heroes Best Feature: Rune-based combat system Worst Feature: Attack, run and wait battle cycle Jeanne: 5.5 "Truth is, it's too simplified and repetitive for even the most desperate of action-starved gamers." Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness Jonathan: 6.0 "a simple concept that offers a fun twist on the falling-block model of a Tetris or Dr. Mario." Best Feature: Fast, competitive two-player mode Worst Feature: No four-player game Gameboy Advance Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance - GOTM John R: 9.5 "I couldn't put it down." Greg: 10 "Circle of the Moon was a really good game, but Harmony of Dissonance is great." Shawn: 9.5 "Konami condensed everything that's great about Symphony of the Night into a handheld game." Best Feature: Deep, engaing gameplay (that you can actually see now!) Worst Feature: Boss fights could be more varied and challenging. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:27:55 -0500 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: [NG] My new E-mail address This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C24A1A.65EA8A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not relating to anything, but this is Dave, and my new e-mail address is = Treytable@earthlink.net . I won't be using the @MSN address for at least = six months.=20 Just in case you needed to know. - --Dave-- Treytable@earthlink.net (insert witty sig. here) - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C24A1A.65EA8A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not relating to anything, but this is = Dave, and my=20 new e-mail address is Treytable@earthlink.net . I = won't be=20 using the @MSN address for at least six months.
 
Just in case you needed to = know.
 
--Dave--
Treytable@earthlink.net
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- ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C24A1A.65EA8A70-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] EGM scores Nintendo delivers yet again. What a wonderful company!! They've been at it since 1886(?). Keep up the good work! God bless lloyd On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Vi On wrote: > > copied from Kaisei on the IGN boards > > Super Mario Sunshine > > Mark: 9.5 "sheer variety of gameplay" > John R.: 9.5 "100 percent pure, unadulterated fun." > Greg: 9.5 "the camera is still a little screwy (a throwback to the N64 > game), but not to a point that SMS is unplayable." > > Best Feature: Gameplay variety and control > Worst Feature: Lazy, awkward camera > > > Animal Crossing > > Chris: 9.0 "It sounds super lame, but trust me - it's a blast." > Jeanne: 9.0 "novel Hello Kitty-meets-The Sims concept." > Greg: 9.5 "once you start playing, you won't be able to stop." > > Best Feature: Huge amount of things to do > Worst Feature: Clunky interface > > > Super Monkey Ball 2 > > Jonathan: 7.5 "every stage has some kind of clever gimmick" > Greg: 8.5 "the most multiplayer fun I've had since Super SMash > Bros. Melee." > Chris: 9.0 "what really launches Monkey Ball into the stratosphere is the > multiplayer." > > Best Feature: Lots o' minigames > Worst Feature: No free-look camera > > > Beach Spikers > > Chris: 8.0 "the most addictive gameplay this side of Virtua Tennis." > > Best Feature: The depth of Create-A-Player > Worst Feature: Not enough minigames > > > Mystic Heroes > > Best Feature: Rune-based combat system > Worst Feature: Attack, run and wait battle cycle > > Jeanne: 5.5 "Truth is, it's too simplified and repetitive for even the > most desperate of action-starved gamers." > > > Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness > > Jonathan: 6.0 "a simple concept that offers a fun twist on the > falling-block model of a Tetris or Dr. Mario." > > Best Feature: Fast, competitive two-player mode > Worst Feature: No four-player game > > > > Gameboy Advance > Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance - GOTM > > John R: 9.5 "I couldn't put it down." > Greg: 10 "Circle of the Moon was a really good game, but Harmony of > Dissonance is great." > Shawn: 9.5 "Konami condensed everything that's great about Symphony of the > Night into a handheld game." > > Best Feature: Deep, engaing gameplay (that you can actually see now!) > Worst Feature: Boss fights could be more varied and challenging. > > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:11:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] rumors from EGM In the new EGM, quatermann said that Mario Kart will be online and has a chance of coming out first half of next year. Also the next mario party, probably mario party 5 will also be online. Advance War sequel will also come to gamecube with online play. The pokemon game Meowth's Party had been canceled for the gamecube. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:30:15 +0200 From: "Michael" Subject: [NG] Back from the States Hi there, just came back from the States. It was an awesome road trip with some gambeling in Las Vegas, bridge- crossing in San Francisco, sightseeing in San Diego and a lot of cheap stuff in Mexico. About 2,500 miles in 2 weeks.. I guess I need some rest now :-) Anyway, after arriving here I got my copy of Final Fantasy X and I'm very looking forward for the RE remake in three weeks. So I only gotta get the Gamecube. Couldn't be any better. _Michael_ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:36:05 -0500 From: "Mr. Completely" Subject: [NG] Shine Get! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C24DF0.387ED080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Never knew I could feel this way, Like I've never seen the sky before... (^_^) Man, I got Super Mario Sunshine at 11:25 AM at EB Games (that's what = Electronics Boutique seems to be calling themselves offline these days) = and got home a bit before noon, started play Super Mario Sunshine at = noon and didn't take a break until 5:00. Yeah. Mario's taking a nap = right now, I can hear him sleeping. ;-)=20 What can I say? This game is brilliant, and if it wasn't for that = sometimes annoying camera, this game (so far) would be a 10, but I'd put = it at a easy 9.7 as it is.=20 OMG, the freaking water, like when you swim up to the island where the = (creature) wants coconuts, the freaking water is just unbelievable. But = I have yet to play Wave Race: Blue Storm so I don't have much to compare = it too. But it totally blows away the water in Ico or Splashdown.=20 It's just really good, and now I think there is no good reason not to = own a Gamecube, and if you just bought a PS2 recently (you know who you = are) I think you made a big mistake. ;-) - --Dave-- Treytable@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~treytable/index.html (insert witty sig. here) http://www.geocities.com/super_trey_bros/save_the_spotted_owl.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C24DF0.387ED080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Never knew I could feel this = way,
Like I've never seen the sky = before...
 
(^_^)
 
Man, I got Super Mario Sunshine at = 11:25 AM at EB=20 Games (that's what Electronics Boutique seems to be calling themselves = offline=20 these days) and got home a bit before noon, started play Super Mario = Sunshine at=20 noon and didn't take a break until 5:00. Yeah. Mario's taking a nap = right now, I=20 can hear him sleeping. ;-)
 
What can I say? This game is brilliant, = and if it=20 wasn't for that sometimes annoying camera, this game (so far) would be a = 10, but=20 I'd put it at a easy 9.7 as it is.
 
OMG, the freaking water, like when you = swim up to=20 the island where the (creature) wants coconuts, the freaking water is = just=20 unbelievable. But I have yet to play Wave Race: Blue Storm so I don't = have much=20 to compare it too. But it totally blows away the water in Ico or = Splashdown.=20
 
It's just really good, and now I think = there is no=20 good reason not to own a Gamecube, and if you just bought a PS2 recently = (you=20 know who you are) I think you made a big mistake. ;-)
 
--Dave--
Treytable@earthlink.net
http://home.eart= hlink.net/~treytable/index.html
(insert=20 witty sig. here)
http://www.geocities.com/super_trey_bros/save_the_spotted_owl.html=
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