From: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (ngamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ngamers-digest V1 #77 Reply-To: ngamers Sender: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk ngamers-digest Friday, January 24 2003 Volume 01 : Number 077 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:53:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: [NG] Phantom to surpass Gamecube I'm the same way. I am tired of defending Nintendo. I used to be a blind fanboy, the glass was always half full. Nintendo seems to not get it. I can't imagine them being as cool and hip as the other two. When will Phantom surpass Gamecube 2 sales?? On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 DarkBastion@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/24/2003 12:53:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: > > > January 23, 2003 - Guess who's pushed past the GameCube? After the holiday season has been tallied and all tales told, Xbox is clearly in second place in the console race, though far behind PS2, with GameCube trailing (but not too far behind). > > According to NPD numbers for December, Microsoft's console now owns 24% of the overall market with GameCube taking in 14%. Xbox had a huge surge in December, which saw a record number of Xbox consoles and software fly off the shelves and into the homes of happy gamers. Console sales were 43% higher than the previous record month of November 2001. Compared to December 2001, the final month of 2002 saw console sale increases of 48% for Xbox, 39% for PS2, and 8% for GameCube. Microsoft projects there will be over nine million Xbox owners by the end of their fiscal year in June. > > Even more impressive than the skyrocketing console sales were Xbox software sales in December, which were 80% higher than the previous record month of December 2001. Leading the software pack was Splinter Cell, which sold a million units in six weeks and has gone on to become the second best selling Xbox game in the U.S. Splinter Cell also outsold Nintendo's Metroid Prime by 19% in their first two months. > > Nintendo's greatest problem is clearly with third-party titles. Xbox has seen 56% greater third-party sales than the GameCube in just over a year of existence. Xbox even has some bragging rights over the PS2, with a 70% higher attach rate for multiplatform titles. Note, that's not 70% higher sales. The attach rate merely means units per console sold. So, while there are less Xbox owners out there, percentage-wise they are favoring the Xbox when it comes to cross-platform titles. > > "We are very please with the holiday results," said Robbie Bach, Chief Xbox Officer. "Xbox is the next-generation console of choice and the clear No. 2 across the United States, Canada, and throughout Europe." > > Of course, PS2 continues to be the number one Next-Generation choice, far outselling Xbox and GameCube in both hardware and software sales. > > On the foreign side of things, the Xbox continues to perform strong in Europe, doubling GameCube sales in the UK. And Europe as a whole has strongly supported Xbox, which is now the number two console behind PS2. However, things still look gloomy in Japan, where Xbox continues to struggle. Xbox Live just launched in Japan, but sales numbers are not yet known. > > -IGN > > > > Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > > "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to > > receive, you must first give'." > > "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" > > It's odd. As a Nintendo fanboy nary a few years back, I would have blasted this with all sorts of stupid arguments in vain defense of Nintendo. But really, they've done nothing to stop this from happening. They are totally inept when it comes to being competitive. Hell, I'd call them anti-competitive. They release a system with alarmingly little fanfare, they have yet to really push third parties, they just now release a line of Player's Choice titles (which, may I add, encompasses only 3 titles that are over a year old) at $10 WHOLE DOLLARS above the retail price for it's competitor's "value priced" games, and I see no adds what so ever. > > No online plans (if I were Sega, I would take it as a personal insult that Nintendo prodded them into making PSO, without doing anything to promote or discount the game or modem add-ons), no hardware extras (DVD playback, mainly, which I can attest to is a major extra for the economic gamer that can't afford another $100-$300 box just to play DVDs), and a poor lineup of games. Nintendo has doomed themselves. How long until they pull a Sega? > > ~Matt > > "Reality continues to ruin my life." > > - Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:39:27 -0600 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: RE: [NG] Vivendi Games It=92s just a rumor now, but I=92ve read the same bit of info at = multiple sites now. Half-Life (Counter-Strike), Warcraft, Crash, Spyro, Lord of the Rings... Interesting... Geoff=20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Pythagoras Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:05 AM To: NGamers Subject: [NG] Vivendi Games Microsoft buys Vivendi Games. =A0 Isn't that jolly? =A0 =A0 That's what Penny-Arcade says. Why would they lie? =A0 =A0 Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first give'." =A0=A0 "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" =A0 [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:52:12 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > Nintendo has doomed themselves. How long until they pull a Sega? > > ~Matt When Pokemon, Zelda, Metroid, and Super Mario stop selling. Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first give'." "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:04:35 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C376.DA4D4710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube they just now release a line of Player's Choice titles (which, may I = add, encompasses only 3 titles that are over a year old) at $10 WHOLE = DOLLARS above the retail price for it's competitor's "value priced" = games, and I see no adds what so ever. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are = they? 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Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and=20 gameCube

they just now release a line of = Player's Choice=20 titles (which, may I add, encompasses only 3 titles that are over a year = old) at=20 $10 WHOLE DOLLARS above the retail price for it's competitor's "value = priced"=20 games, and I see no adds what so ever.
 
Where did you see the GameCube Player's = Choice=20 games, and what games are they?
 
Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com
"Charlie = said, 'Only=20 hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first=20 give'."
   "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote=20 Goethe?"
- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C376.DA4D4710-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:04:29 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - --part1_3c.2af4c91c.2b62a1ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 1:32:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, DarkBastion@aol.com writes: > It's odd. As a Nintendo fanboy nary a few years back, I would have blasted > this with all sorts of stupid arguments in vain defense of Nintendo. But > really, they've done nothing to stop this from happening. They are totally > inept when it comes to being competitive. Hell, I'd call them > anti-competitive. They release a system with alarmingly little fanfare, > they have yet to really push third parties, they just now release a line of > Player's Choice titles (which, may I add, encompasses only 3 titles that > are over a year old) at $10 WHOLE DOLLARS above the retail price for it's > competitor's "value priced" games, and I see no adds what so ever. > That's one of the biggest reason's why I bought the PS2. Cheaper games. Have you seen N64 games on the shelves lately? Still $49.99-$79.99 - -Jed "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit" ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_3c.2af4c91c.2b62a1ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 1:32:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, DarkBastion@aol.com writes:


It's odd. As a Nintendo fanboy nary a few years back, I would have blasted this with all sorts of stupid arguments in vain defense of Nintendo. But really, they've done nothing to stop this from happening. They are totally inept when it comes to being competitive. Hell, I'd call them anti-competitive. They release a system with alarmingly little fanfare, they have yet to really push third parties, they just now release a line of Player's Choice titles (which, may I add, encompasses only 3 titles that are over a year old) at $10 WHOLE DOLLARS above the retail price for it's competitor's "value priced" games, and I see no adds what so ever.



That's one of the biggest reason's why I bought the PS2. Cheaper games. Have you seen N64 games on the shelves lately? Still $49.99-$79.99

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_3c.2af4c91c.2b62a1ed_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:06:26 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Phantom to surpass Gamecube - --part1_ab.28728dd3.2b62a262_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 1:54:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@Glue.umd.edu writes: > I'm the same way. I am tired of defending Nintendo. I used to be a > blind fanboy, the glass was always half full. Nintendo seems to not get > it. I can't imagine them being as cool and hip as the other two. When > will Phantom surpass Gamecube 2 sales?? It won't. - -Jed, phantom is probably a hoax - -Jed "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit" ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_ab.28728dd3.2b62a262_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 1:54:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@Glue.umd.edu writes:


I'm the same way.  I am tired of defending Nintendo.  I used to be a
blind fanboy, the glass was always half full.  Nintendo seems to not get
it.  I can't imagine them being as cool and hip as the other two.  When
will Phantom surpass Gamecube 2 sales??

It won't.

-Jed, phantom is probably a hoax

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_ab.28728dd3.2b62a262_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:08:07 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - --part1_12.2c1d1945.2b62a2c7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: > Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are > they? > > Pythagoras > I'm guessing it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball - -Jed "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit" ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_12.2c1d1945.2b62a2c7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes:


Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are they?

Pythagoras



I'm guessing it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_12.2c1d1945.2b62a2c7_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:26:29 -0600 From: "Satoshi GC" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube >From: DarkBastion@aol.com >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:31:45 -0500 > > >It's odd. As a Nintendo fanboy nary a few years back, I would have blasted >this with all sorts of stupid arguments in vain defense of Nintendo. But >really, they've done nothing to stop this from happening. They are totally >inept when it comes to being competitive. Hell, I'd call them >anti-competitive. They release a system with alarmingly little fanfare, >they have yet to really push third parties, they just now release a line of >Player's Choice titles (which, may I add, encompasses only 3 titles that >are over a year old) at $10 WHOLE DOLLARS above the retail price for it's >competitor's "value priced" games, and I see no adds what so ever. > >No online plans (if I were Sega, I would take it as a personal insult that >Nintendo prodded them into making PSO, without doing anything to promote or >discount the game or modem add-ons), no hardware extras (DVD playback, >mainly, which I can attest to is a major extra for the economic gamer that >can't afford another $100-$300 box just to play DVDs), and a poor lineup of >games. Nintendo has doomed themselves. How long until they pull a Sega? > >~Matt > Pulling a SEGA sounds more likely now, but I'm still not completely sure that'll happen. On the one hand, Nintendo has basically dug themselves into third place in the US, Euro, and Australian markets (from what I hear, GC basically doesn't exist there). On the other hand, they have what seems to be there unlimited cash cow with the GBA (which, in Japan, outsold the PS2 during the holidays). All I can say is that if Nintendo is going to leave the console industry, I sincerely don't think it'll happen this generation. What it depends on now is Satoru Iwata. He says that he is very disappointed in the GC's worldwide sales and I think he's in the mood for a change. The next generation may be what decides Nintendo's fate. I hope they do better. They should be doing better right now. - -Satoshi My Collection: http://users.ign.com/collection/Takeshi_GC _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:37:34 -0600 From: "Satoshi GC" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube >From: "Pythagoras" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:04:35 -0500 > > > >Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are >they? > >Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > It was announced on IGN. Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros. All $29.99. Rather strange pricing for Player's Choice, though I guess this means that Nintendo wants to stick with its minus $20 plan. I just hope they're going to start advertising this instead of letting people walk into a store and say, "Oh, those games are cheaper now." - -Satoshi My Collection: http://users.ign.com/collection/Takeshi_GC _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:56:24 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - --part1_113.1dff3096.2b62bc28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 10:37:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes: > It was announced on IGN. Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros. All > $29.99. Rather strange pricing for Player's Choice, though I guess this > means that Nintendo wants to stick with its minus $20 plan. I just hope > they're going to start advertising this instead of letting people walk into > a store and say, "Oh, those games are cheaper now." > -Satoshi If I bought another console, I'd go witht he XBOX. - -Jed "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit" ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_113.1dff3096.2b62bc28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 10:37:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes:


It was announced on IGN.  Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros.  All
$29.99.  Rather strange pricing for Player's Choice, though I guess this
means that Nintendo wants to stick with its minus $20 plan.  I just hope
they're going to start advertising this instead of letting people walk into
a store and say, "Oh, those games are cheaper now."
-Satoshi

If I bought another console, I'd go witht he XBOX.

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_113.1dff3096.2b62bc28_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - --- Pythagoras wrote: > January 23, 2003 - Guess who's pushed past the > GameCube? Just curious...where's Geoff chiming in to whine about how we all have already read these articles on the internet? And how some people just hate the XBOX and stuff? Heh. :) RS __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:01:28 -0500 From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube In a message dated 1/24/2003 6:52:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: > When Pokemon, Zelda, Metroid, and Super Mario stop selling. > > Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to > receive, you must > first give'." > "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" Sure, they sell well. But obviously, not that well. Super Mario Sunshine or Metroid Prime haven't seemed to stop Xbox from blowing past the 'Cube. Will Nintendo settle for being a third place contender while the profits are there? Will they ever give up on making thier own console hardware as long as there are profits to be made? ~Matt "Reality continues to ruin my life." - - Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:15:01 -0500 From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube In a message dated 1/24/2003 7:04:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: > Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are they? > > Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to > receive, you must first give'." > "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe http://cube.ign.com/articles/383/383504p1.html Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros. Melee, for a MSRP of $29.95. Nintendo are a bunch of assholes. ~Matt "Reality continues to ruin my life." - - Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:39:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube I can't help but think that this has something to do with the culture of conservatism(not the political kind) that Yamauchi ingrained into Nintendo. they've been slow to adjust to changing consumer tastes. sad sad sad On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Satoshi GC wrote: > >From: "Pythagoras" > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:04:35 -0500 > > > > > > > >Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are > >they? > > > >Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > > > It was announced on IGN. Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros. All > $29.99. Rather strange pricing for Player's Choice, though I guess this > means that Nintendo wants to stick with its minus $20 plan. I just hope > they're going to start advertising this instead of letting people walk into > a store and say, "Oh, those games are cheaper now." > -Satoshi > My Collection: http://users.ign.com/collection/Takeshi_GC > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:29:31 -0600 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: RE: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner- > NGamers@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sharer > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:47 AM > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > > > --- Pythagoras wrote: > > January 23, 2003 - Guess who's pushed past the > > GameCube? > > Just curious...where's Geoff chiming in to whine about > how we all have already read these articles on the > internet? And how some people just hate the XBOX and > stuff? > > Heh. :) > > RS I don't think posting full articles on a list is ever appropriate. Post the URL, maybe a snippet or two to let folks know where the article is going... anything more is redundant and wasteful. As for the Xbox info (even though it did barely mention Nintendo)... yeah, I'd say it didn't belong here and was definitely off-topic. That's why I don't post here on this list anymore. Most of you are on Jed's list and anything can be posted there about any console. So, I post there and worry not about being off-topic. But then again, there aren't any fanboys (other than Dexter) on that list. Geoff [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:32:18 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - --part1_38.349f7620.2b630ae2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 12:01:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, DarkBastion@aol.com writes: > > Sure, they sell well. But obviously, not that well. Super Mario Sunshine or > Metroid Prime haven't seemed to stop Xbox from blowing past the 'Cube. Will > Nintendo settle for being a third place contender while the profits are > there? Will they ever give up on making thier own console hardware as long > as there are profits to be made? > > ~Matt > Third place isn't good enough. More people will have XBOXs and then that will pursuade others to buy them. - -Jed "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit" ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_38.349f7620.2b630ae2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/03 12:01:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, DarkBastion@aol.com writes:



Sure, they sell well. But obviously, not that well. Super Mario Sunshine or Metroid Prime haven't seemed to stop Xbox from blowing past the 'Cube. Will Nintendo settle for being a third place contender while the profits are there? Will they ever give up on making thier own console hardware as long as there are profits to be made?

~Matt



Third place isn't good enough. More people will have XBOXs and then that will pursuade others to buy them.

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, Back to the Future - --part1_38.349f7620.2b630ae2_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:16:37 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2C3CC.5A6728D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jedcross2@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube In a message dated 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, = treytable2@msn.com writes:=20 Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games = are they?=20 Pythagoras=20 I'm guessing it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super = Monkey Ball=20 -Jed=20 "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per hour, = we're gonna see some serious shit"=20 ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Not Super Smash Bros. Melee, it still sells well at $50 USD. Super = Monkey Ball has been $25 to $30 USD since before Super Monkey Ball 2 = came out. I'm guessing it's Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Rogue Leader. I'm sure that Wave Race: Blue Storm will remain at $50 for all eternity. Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you = must first give'." "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2C3CC.5A6728D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jedcross2@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = 9:08=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and = gameCube

In a = message dated=20 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: =


Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, = and what=20 games are they?

Pythagoras



I'm = guessing=20 it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball=20

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this baby = hits 88=20 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc Brown, = Back to the=20 Future=20
 
Not Super Smash Bros. Melee, it still = sells well at=20 $50 USD. Super Monkey Ball has been $25 to $30 USD since before Super = Monkey=20 Ball 2 came out. I'm guessing it's Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Rogue=20 Leader.
 
I'm sure that Wave Race: Blue Storm = will remain at=20 $50 for all eternity.
 
Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com
"Charlie = said, 'Only=20 hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first=20 give'."
   "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote=20 Goethe?"
- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2C3CC.5A6728D0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:18:40 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] Satoru Iwata - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Satoshi GC" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > All I can say is that if Nintendo is going to leave the console industry, I > sincerely don't think it'll happen this generation. What it depends on now > is Satoru Iwata. He says that he is very disappointed in the GC's worldwide > sales and I think he's in the mood for a change. The next generation may be > what decides Nintendo's fate. I hope they do better. They should be doing > better right now. > -Satoshi > > My Collection: http://users.ign.com/collection/Takeshi_GC I think that Satoru Iwata better get his arse in gear and realize that Wave Race: Blue Storm should be $20 by now. Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first give'." "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:21:42 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Satoshi GC" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > >From: "Pythagoras" > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:04:35 -0500 > > > > > > > >Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what games are > >they? > > > >Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com > > > It was announced on IGN. Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Smash Bros. All > $29.99. Rather strange pricing for Player's Choice, though I guess this > means that Nintendo wants to stick with its minus $20 plan. I just hope > they're going to start advertising this instead of letting people walk into > a store and say, "Oh, those games are cheaper now." > -Satoshi > My Collection: http://users.ign.com/collection/Takeshi_GC It was on IGN? Really? Oh, not on XBOX.ign.com or PS2.ign.com. ;-) I'm really not sure as to why I'd visit cube.ign.com. Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first give'." "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:35:52 -0600 From: "Chris Avery" Subject: Re: [NG] Satoru Iwata > I think that Satoru Iwata better get his arse in gear and realize that Wave > Race: Blue Storm should be $20 by now. > I'll sell it to you for $20 (used of course). - -- Chris Avery averyc@io.com http://www.n-games.com/index.shtml [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:49:46 -0500 From: "Pythagoras" Subject: Re: [NG] Player's Choice? Who is this player? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2C3D0.FBD63A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pythagoras=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jedcross2@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and gameCube In a message dated 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, = treytable2@msn.com writes:=20 Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, and what = games are they?=20 Pythagoras=20 I'm guessing it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super = Monkey Ball=20 -Jed=20 "According to my Calculations, when this baby hits 88 Miles per = hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"=20 ~Doc Brown, Back to the Future=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- Not Super Smash Bros. Melee, it still sells well at $50 USD. Super = Monkey Ball has been $25 to $30 USD since before Super Monkey Ball 2 = came out. I'm guessing it's Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Rogue Leader. I'm sure that Wave Race: Blue Storm will remain at $50 for all = eternity. Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you = must first give'." "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote Goethe?" - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Mmmm. My words are so tasty. ;-) Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com "Charlie said, 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you = must first give'." 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From:=20 Pythagoras=20
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 = 5:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and = gameCube

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jedcross2@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, = 2003 9:08=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX and=20 gameCube

In a = message dated=20 1/24/03 7:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, treytable2@msn.com writes: =


Where did you see the GameCube Player's Choice games, = and what=20 games are they?

Pythagoras =



I'm guessing=20 it's probably Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball=20

-Jed


"According to my Calculations, when this = baby hits=20 88 Miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit"
~Doc = Brown, Back=20 to the Future=20
 
Not Super Smash Bros. Melee, it still = sells well=20 at $50 USD. Super Monkey Ball has been $25 to $30 USD since before = Super=20 Monkey Ball 2 came out. I'm guessing it's Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and = Rogue=20 Leader.
 
I'm sure that Wave Race: Blue Storm = will remain=20 at $50 for all eternity.
 
Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com
"Charlie = said,=20 'Only hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first=20 give'."
   "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote = Goethe?"
 
Mmmm. My words are so tasty. = ;-)
 
Pythagoras / TreyTable2@msn.com
"Charlie = said, 'Only=20 hands can wash hands. If you want to receive, you must first=20 give'."
   "Do you think Charlie Parker would quote=20 Goethe?"
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