From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #1026 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Wednesday, December 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1026 Re: [N64] RE: DK layout [N64] grafix Re: [N64] nice banana [N64] Elements of good gaming Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming Re: [N64] marketable games Re: [N64] DK help needed Re: [N64] grafix Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming Re: [N64] Nintendo and the gang.. [N64] Dave's banana Re: [N64] Comic Books in Videogames Re: [N64] marketable games Re: [N64] marketable games Re: [N64] nice banana Re: [N64] Nintendo and the gang.. Re: [N64] marketable games Re: [N64] RE: n64-Layout again ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:04:01 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] RE: DK layout "Justin Smith-Williams" wrote: > I was talking to those that said the exploring and backtracking in games > was to much fo them. you wont hear me complain about games with lots of exploration thats one thing that I think makes for a great game. > > > >From: "Thraxen" > >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [N64] RE: DK layout > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:00:06 -0600 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Justin Smith-Williams > >To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:32 AM > >Subject: Re: [N64] RE: DK layout > > > > > > >YOu guys don't like exploring don't you like Rpg's?Don't you explore in > >them > > >or atleast backtrack? > > > > > > >"You guys"? I'm saying I don't see anything wrong with having to explore. > > > >Stryder > > > > > > > > > >>From: "Thraxen" > > >>Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com > > >>To: > > >>Subject: Re: [N64] RE: DK layout > > >>Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:16:10 -0600 > > >> > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Alex > > >>To: n64@lists.xmission.com > > >>Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 8:52 AM > > >>Subject: Re: [N64] RE: DK layout > > >> > > >> > > >> >Yes, I agree. Hub levels should be straight forward and easy to > >navigate. > > >> >This was one of the problems with Banjo-Kazooie. > > >> > > >>Bahh....One, I had little problem navigating in BK. Two, what is wrong > > >>with > > >>having to do exploration? I see no problem. > > >> > > >>Stryder > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >At 17:36 02-12-99 -0500, you wrote: > > >> >>I agree that DK64 could have kept the jumping heads method alive, at > > >>least > > >> >>for certain enemies. > > >> >>I also am starting to dislike the non-linear layout of platformer > >games. > > >> >>Especially with DK, it seems like there are too many worlds within > > >>worlds, > > >> >>which eventually gets a little difficult to keep track of. I much > > >>prefer > > >> >>the way Mario 64 arranged it - when I jumped through a painting, I > >knew > > >>I > > >> >>was starting another level. Or with DKC, it was an easy thing to go > > >>back > > >> >>and try that mine cart level again from the main map - there was none > >of > > >> >>this running around looking for that one door.... > > >> >>Perhaps I have not played it enough, but I feel like I am always > >going > > >> >>through doors that either lead to another "hub" or they hold some > > >>challenge > > >> >>that I have to come back for. It is not as bad as Turok 2, but I > >don't > > >> >>always want to sit down with a game for hours at a time (regardless > >of > > >>what > > >> >>actually happens). I want to sit down to play a level and _then_ > > >>perhaps > > >> >>get sucked in till 3AM. A game should not deter you from playing > > >>because > > >> >>you only have half an hour to spare and don't think you will get > > >>anything > > >> >>accomplished. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > >> >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > >> > > >> > > >>[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > >>[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:30:25 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: [N64] grafix OK, saying the Dreamcast has better graphics than the N64 is a no-brainer, but better graphics on the PSX? That's a joke, right? Good one! I really enjoy playing "Lemonade Stand" on my Apple IIe, mainly because the graphics are so much better than anything on the PSX. JG -----Original Message----- From: TreyTable@aol.com [mailto:TreyTable@aol.com] Subject: Re: [N64] nice banana In a message dated 99-12-08 11:28:02 EST, you write: > you only get games that look good huh? your loss. graphics are important when I said look good, I didn't necessarlly meam graphics, how about "sound fun". But graphics are important. That's one reason why I like the PlayStation & Dreamcast over the N64; better graphics on Sony & SEGA's part. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:32:32 -0700 From: likeaneagle@juno.com Subject: Re: [N64] nice banana > My formula is buy it if it looks good, put the receipt in the jewel > case or > box, return it if it sucks. Fool proof. And stay away from Kay-Bee. > nice > banana. > > Dave Whats wrong with Kay-Bee? ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: BANKSB@uwplatt.edu Subject: [N64] Elements of good gaming I'm just wondering, since I see the sub topic coming up with diffrent titles, what list of elements do the thing a game need to be considered good in order.I mean to me there only really two things a games needs to have for me with is : 1.Gameplay 2.Graphics I hear others mentioning storyline. That's pretty cool too. I guess I would rank that number three. Followed by sound. So what do the rest of you think? Give me an ordered list of what you think a game needs to have to be considered above average.So again here's my list. 1.Gameplay 2.Graphics 3.Storyling, depending on game type 4.Sound B [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:12:10 -0600 (CST) From: BANKSB@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming Oh yeah, I forgot one more. 5.Replay value B [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:31:17 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games TreyTable@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-12-08 11:18:37 EST, you write: > > > It doesnt sound to me like you are much of a nintendo fan. > > you sound like you have a lot of experience as a gamer, how long > > have you been gaming? dont get pissed and cut this one part(i'm getting > sick > > of > > that any way)this is just a question > > I used to be a huge Nintendo fan. And for the most part a Nintendo only fan. > (Sure in 1990 I had a Turbo Grafx-16, but I sold as soon as the SNES came > out) But for the most part, from 1986 to 1997 I was a die hard Nintendo fan. > I could have got the PlayStation or Saturn in 1995 but I decided to wait for > the N64. Although I ended up waiting until 1997 since N64s were hard to find > in late 1996. But I still held fast to the silly reasoning that Nintendo was > the best and everything else sucked. I mean they did make the NES, Game Boy, > and SNES. Then I finally got my N64. I got with it Mario 64, Star Wars: SotE, > Mario Kart 64, and a month later Star Fox 64 and Blast Corps. Then nothing. > There were no games worth getting for the summer of 1997. I wspend many a day > at a friends house playing Jet Moto, but still I didn't get a PSX. Autumn > 1997 came around and I got Goldeneye. I figured that softawre would be > picking up now. That there would be tons of great N64 games for X-Mas 1997. > Nintendo wouldn't let me down. The only other game I got in 1997 was Midway's > San Francisco Rush. I thought it was the best racer I ever played. But I was > getting bored with the N64. I say to myself, where's all the great Konami > games? Where's Capcom? > > Then in late January 1998 I played Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on the > PlayStation. That did it, I still liked the N64, but I went out and got a > PlayStation with Castlevania, and Jet Moto. But I still liked the N64, it did > have SF Rush, which I thoufght was the best racer ever. Then I played Need > For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit. That's when I stopped playing N64 games. That's > when I realized which system was better (for me, and 70 gazllion other > people). It was so much fun to get two new great games games a month rather > than two new great games a year. > > I haven't bought & kept a Nintendo 64 game since. > > Oh yes, I started playing videogames with a secondhand Pong in 1977. My > cousin gave it to me, guess what he had got? Then I moved up to the Atari > 2800 (not a typo, it was a 2800) in 1982. I wanted an Atari 2600 earlier but > it was hard for a six year old to get $150. ;) > > I played that Atari until 1987. Then I got an Atari 400. Secondhand, from the > same cousin, he had just got a NES. In 1988 I got NES, then in 1989 I got a > Game Boy, and in 1990 I bought a Turbo Grafx-16. In 1991 I got a SNES. Then > in 1997 I bought an N64. In 1998 I bought a PlayStation and a Virtual Boy. In > 1999 I bought a Saturn and a Dreamcast and Game Boy Color. And most likely > on NOS 2000 I'll buy a PlayStation 2. I'll also probably get a Dolphin when > it comes out in 2001. > > I don't hate Nintendo, I just don't like them as much as I used to. > > There. Geeze. That enought info for ya? nice banana > > Dave the only difference btween you and me is that I'm still hoping for the big third parties to go back to nintendo. > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:39:56 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] DK help needed TreyTable@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-12-08 11:45:22 EST, you write: > > > I'm thouroughly sick of seeing some people bashing > > MY two favorite developers namely NINTENDO and RARE. > > Nintendo, the company that just about doesn't support the N64? That Nintendo? > The Nintendo that didn't release any games for the N64 in 1999? Okay. I don't > think RARE would know what to do with the Expansion Pak it someonem shoved it > up their arse. nice banana > > Dave maybe they were busy with developing the dolphin(thats just speculation though). but I know they were busy with new pokemon stuff.oxh and by the way, nintendo DID release games in 99, pokemon snap and smash bros. among them. once again.....better banana > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:43:17 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] grafix John Goelzer wrote: > OK, saying the Dreamcast has better graphics than the N64 is a no-brainer, > but better graphics on the PSX? That's a joke, right? Good one! > > > > I really enjoy playing "Lemonade Stand" on my Apple IIe, mainly because the > graphics are so much better than anything on the PSX. > > > > JG I really liked that one! > > -----Original Message----- > >From: TreyTable@aol.com [mailto:TreyTable@aol.com] > Subject: Re: [N64] nice banana > > In a message dated 99-12-08 11:28:02 EST, you write: > > > you only get games that look good huh? your loss. graphics are important > > when I said look good, I didn't necessarlly meam graphics, how about "sound > fun". But graphics are important. That's one reason why I like the > PlayStation & Dreamcast over the N64; better graphics on Sony & SEGA's part. > > Dave > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:49:56 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming BANKSB@uwplatt.edu wrote: > I'm just wondering, since I see the sub topic coming up with diffrent > titles, what list of elements do the thing a game need to be considered good in > order.I mean to me there only really two things a games needs to have for me > with is : > 1.Gameplay > 2.Graphics > I hear others mentioning storyline. That's pretty cool too. I guess I > would rank that number three. Followed by sound. So what do the rest of you > think? Give me an ordered list of what you think a game needs to have to be > considered above average.So again here's my list. > 1.Gameplay > 2.Graphics > 3.Storyling, depending on game type > 4.Sound > > B heres mine 1.story line(it just helps make the game more involved) 2.gameplay(a definate must is good game play!) 3.a tie between graphics and sound(all I mean here dave, is that graphics and sound certainly are important to a game, but if the story is involved, and the game has cool gameplay, then i'm not gonna trash it if the sound and graphics need work....i.e. nightmare creatures and some others. just thought i'd clear that up before I recieve the next 43 e-mails of dave misinterpreting what I say > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:51:45 -0800 From: Charles Baynes Subject: Re: [N64] Elements of good gaming BANKSB@uwplatt.edu wrote: > Oh yeah, I forgot one more. > 5.Replay value > > B great now you tell us!!(just joking) replay value is also up there on my list, it especially adds life to multiplayer games like dkr and smash bros. golden eye as well > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > --Pika25chu-- ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:11:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Rodriguez Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo and the gang.. - --- Clobie wrote: > Can someone explain the relationship with Nintendo > and Rare? Does Nintendo > own Rare? Does Nintendo own Left Field, or the > furure Retro Games? > - ------------------------------------------------------- Well, Nintendo doesn't completely own Rare, but they do own 25% of them. I don't know about Left Field Productions. I think Nintendo only publishes games for them. As for Retro Studios, Since Nintendo is setting them up in the US to have an equivalent to Rareware in Europe an NOJ in Japan (Nintendo of Japan), they will probably own a portion of the company. J. Rodriguez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:32:20 -0700 From: likeaneagle@juno.com Subject: [N64] Dave's banana > Nintendo, the company that just about doesn't support the N64? That > Nintendo? > The Nintendo that didn't release any games for the N64 in 1999? > Okay. I don't > think RARE would know what to do with the Expansion Pak it someonem > shoved it > up their arse. nice banana > > Dave looking around RARE's web site it's easy to see their obsession with the word arse. They seem to like things like that, just look at Goldeneye, if you shoot a guy in the "arse" he puts both hands back there and hops up and down. Any other examples of this in other RARE games? ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:42:37 EST From: Bastion007@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Comic Books in Videogames Yeah, I think that would be cool. Like have there be some kinda secret that you can only get if you buy the comic book about the game, or something. Though in the age of computers, all we'd need to do would have one person get the secret and it'd be everywhere ... ~Matt <> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 13:59:36 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games Justin Smith-Williams wrote: > Not always true look at Body Harvest,SS:SV, Smash Brothers,and Harvest Moon > all wonderful games even though the graphics don't pack a wow punch to them. True.I mean graphics makes or breaks a game by hyping up the players, and if a game packs good graphics and good gameplay, even better. But i think part of the disappointment with DK64 is that it simply didn't push far enough graphic wise. Dexter > > > >From: TreyTable@aol.com > >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:47:31 EST > > > >In a message dated 99-12-07 13:39:44 EST, you write: > > > > > I grew > > > up on games like super mario bros, mega man, castlevania(the list is > > > never ending). Graphics didnt make much difference then, and they > > > really shouldnt now. > > > >Uh huh, funny how I don't believe that. Graphics are one of the three > >things > >needed for a good game. > > > >Dave > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:05:02 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games > > I cant believe you are bashing me for being loyal to nintendo, > it's only provided me thousands upon thousands of hours of fun > since I was 6 (I'm 20 now)I'm getting sick of this man. I just like > nintendo more then sega(I still like sega though)And I DON"T like sony at > all. But guess what? thats my right man! you continually put down(or try > to)everything I say cause I dont like playstation(at least thats the way > it seems)and you fail to understand any of the points I make, > sorry but I just dont think your even trying to listen man. Calm down Charles. We're all gamers here. whatever differences we have are really on skin deep. But the sarcasm's gotta stop on Dave's end of things. He gets sarcastic and then cries foul when ten people flame him. Dexter [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:06:51 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] nice banana > > you only get games that look good huh? your loss. graphics are important and good > sound definately helps but thats not everything. I'm sure you'll have some witty > and totally irelevant come back to, gee I can hardly contain my excitement.better > banana > > Dave knows what games he likes, he just happen to like games coming out for the playstation than de does on games coming out for the 64. > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > --Pika25chu-- > > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com > Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:09:15 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Nintendo and the gang.. > > Nintendo owns 1/4 of RARE That was after DKC's success/. I heard they increased their stake in the company. Dexter > > > Chris > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:31:01 -0600 From: "Thraxen" Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Baynes To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [N64] marketable games >"Thraxen" wrote: > > >sony sony couldnt' make an original game if they tried(and they dont try > > >all they do is make thousands upon thousands of take offs on nintendo > > >and segas game ideas!!! ha ha ha) face it people, sony's just a > > >buisiness monster trying to grab their piece of the gaming industry, a > > >couple years ago, they showed up flashing their big bucks and a new > > >system. >that doesnt change my point in the least. and i wish you people >would quit trying to trash me, read what i say for crying in the dark >I said these are just my OPINIONS. every one's aloud one you know. >and by the way, would you please quit cutting my posts to pieces. the point >is a whole other wise I would just send a few lines for you sonyphiles to >destroy(or at least try to)I stand by my views and neither you or dave can >change that Ok, one, you will get used to how the list works if you stick around. If you post something that may go against someone elses love for gaming, don't be surprised to see it get disected, analyzed, and throw back in your face. It happens all the time. Sometimes things get wild and people get personal and overreact...but for the most part we just debate a point for a while and move on...no one stays mad. Two, you are largely to blame for the reaction to your posts...they have been very harsh. Look at what you said..."all they do is make thousands upon thousands of take offs on nintendo and segas game ideas!!! ha ha ha)". Your statement is VERY controversial and debatable in the first place...especially when there are a number of us on here who love our PSXs dearly and just enjoy good games no matter what the system. Then when you throw stuff like that 'ha ha ha' on the end of a statement...you are basically declaring open season on yourself. If you don't want to get bdebated all the time, you have 2 options. One, you can leave the list. I'm not saying we want you to by any means...just don't expect us to back off while you continue make inflamatory statements. Or two, you can stop making such broad generalizations. You said 'all they do' is make rip offs, which is completely false. You can say that you think a lot of their games are rip offs, or even better yet, actually name the games. Then you won't get flamed...as much :) Basically, keep in mind that even though this is a N64 list, it is populated with a lot of people who like games on mutliple systems, so if you are going to down a system...expect retaliation. Your best bet is to just keep stating you opinions and don't take it personally when people tear them apart. And feel free to jump into the fray and debate other peoples statements. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:33:06 -0600 From: "Thraxen" Subject: Re: [N64] RE: n64-Layout again - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Baynes To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [N64] RE: n64-Layout again >I agre with you there, I guess it does depend on individual gamers taste in >games. But dont you think gaming should be more about having a good time then >anything else? Of course, but to a lot of people, playing those deathmatch games is what they consider a good time...even if they are stressful and often frustrating. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of n64-digest V1 #1026 ************************** [ To quit the n64-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe n64-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]