From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #1413 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Tuesday, January 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1413 Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo [N64] Bye Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Bye Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo RE: [N64] CDs Re: [N64] CDs RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo [N64] Quiz Time Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Quiz Time Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo RE: [N64] Quiz Time Re: [N64] CDs Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:51:36 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo - --part1_f4.6f91ceb.27a88358_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>Belgians are french, and the dutch are German. You forgot that Yugoslavs are morons. ;-)>> And the French are assholes. ~Matt "Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin and Hobbes - --part1_f4.6f91ceb.27a88358_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>Belgians are french, and the dutch are German.

You forgot that Yugoslavs are morons. ;-)>>

And the French are assholes.

~Matt

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin and Hobbes


- --part1_f4.6f91ceb.27a88358_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:55:53 -0500 From: Chris Clark Subject: [N64] Bye After being nearly dead for ages, this list has suddenly bounced back in a big way. But what are the discussions? The weather, Canada, politics, where people live...oh yeah, and another rehash of the piracy debate. This list was good back when the DMA guys were onboard, and I will miss Dave/Trey Table's comments, but still I must say goodbye. I just don't enjoy reading the posts anymore - at least on message boards I can pick the topics that I want to hear about. So long. ChrisC@ati.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:27:39 EST From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] In a message dated 1/30/2001 2:46:42 PM Central Standard Time, DarkBastion@aol.com writes: > I have discovered an entire era of music from the 60s that I never would have > > discovered it if weren't for Napster. Not only that, but hearing some of the > > live versions of some of my favorite songs are things I would never be able > to hear even on the best B-side collection. > > ~Matt > > "Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin and Hobbes Amen. - -Aldo [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:33:07 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] - --------------E26938B78C466E266294B761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > It can be argued that Napster has actually helped the big record > distributors to make more money. Been there done that. Read the rest of the thread please. > > They aren't exactly suing for a loss of profits due to pirating, > although > that's what they may say they're suing for. There really is no > evidence that > they've lost money due to Napster. Pirating is something that is hard to gather evidence for, you should know that as I'm sure we all do it one time or the other =). unless you actually are holding pirated software in your hands. That is why digital pirating is such a problem. pirated digital information is much harder to track down, and prosecute than pirating using conventional physical mediums. > > It's obvious they're suing because they see a potential threat to > their > method of distrubuting of music. You have to realise that's their main > > purpose. And that is why I said... :) > That's what has made them so much money all these years. They > totally own the distribution methods. Napster threatens them in this > sense, > and rather then embrace this new technology they've tried to fight it > off in > the hope that it'll somehow just go away. That ain't gonna happen. Yes.. we all agree on that. > > > Funny you guys should say that. I just read in USA Today that Napster > is > probably going to start charging a fee ($4.95/month) in June or July. A special subscription service than will co-exist with current services. Napster itself will provide most of the content. That in itself is different from the current service where the content is provided by its users. You ought to know the difference, and that's why the music labels are so angry about the idea of a music sharing service. There is no "snake head" so no speak for them to cut off. Their worst enemy is the people who put up mp3 files for others to download. They can't exactly sue everybody. Part of their case was shutting down napster to deprive users of this service, but with so many similar services, it is a useless gesture. > > Apparently, Napster has been wooing the big record labels since they > first > took them to court. And god only knows how much some people will pay > to d/l > an entire album. > Yes... No one will pay to dl an entire album unless they want an entire album. What has made napster so appleaing was that people were fed up on paying $16 for a CD with one or two tracks they like. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com - --------------E26938B78C466E266294B761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
 
 
It can be argued that Napster has actually helped the big record
distributors to make more money.
Been there done that.  Read the rest of the thread please.
 
They aren't exactly suing for a loss of profits due to pirating, although
that's what they may say they're suing for. There really is no evidence that
they've lost money due to Napster.
Pirating is something that is hard to gather evidence for, you should know that as I'm sure we all do it one time or the other =).   unless you actually are holding pirated software in your hands.  That is why digital pirating is such a problem.  pirated digital information is much harder to track down, and prosecute than pirating using conventional physical mediums.
 
It's obvious they're suing because they see a potential threat to their
method of distrubuting of music. You have to realise that's their main
purpose.
And that is why I said... :)
That's what has made them so much money all these years. They
totally own the distribution methods. Napster threatens them in this sense,
and rather then embrace this new technology they've tried to fight it off in
the hope that it'll somehow just go away. That ain't gonna happen.
Yes.. we all agree on that.
 

Funny you guys should say that. I just read in USA Today that Napster is
probably going to start charging a fee ($4.95/month) in June or July.

A special subscription service than will co-exist with current services.  Napster itself will provide most of the content.

That in itself is different from the current service where the content is provided by its users.  You ought to know the difference, and that's why the music labels are so angry about the idea of a music sharing service.  There is no "snake head" so no speak for them to cut off.  Their worst enemy is the people who put up mp3 files for others to download.  They can't exactly sue everybody.  Part of their case was shutting down napster to deprive users of this service, but with so many similar services, it is a useless gesture.

 
Apparently, Napster has been wooing the big record labels since they first
took them to court. And god only knows how much some people will pay to d/l
an entire album.
 
Yes...  No one will pay to dl an entire album unless they want an entire album.  What has made napster so appleaing was that people were fed up on paying $16 for a CD with one or two tracks they like.
 

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Dexter S.
Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine
Http://www.tendobox.com
  - --------------E26938B78C466E266294B761-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:00:34 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > One little remark, Boudewijn, (dutch, am i right?) >=20 > all you are telling here sounds like a terrible clich=E9: > American people are dumb, fat and have no culture > thats just an image, you see? you blame them for being narrow minded but > in > the mean time you > seem to be it yourself > it's just an image you get from seeing stupid hollywood movies and > listening > to all the gossip (yes, european journalistic gossip) about the US people > and of course the president election; i admit it gave me the best laugh in > years, but thats just the press making us believe they are all that dumb > come on we've got our own stupid television shows, (just think about the > inventor of 'big brother', he's dutch), and they score the best. > If we (europe) were the economical world leaders we would transmit the > exact > same image to the rest of the world and it would be the americans that > think > we were so dumb > it is true, the smart ones are always overshouted by the dumb ones > but that's a rule that counts for the whole world, for everyone, just look > around you, it's everywhere > or how would you explain playstation being more popular than nintendo :-) > (just to get 'on-topic' again) > And sadly enough it's america right now that is shouting the hardest and > by > that getting the most retarded image > and maybe it wouldn't be wrong for them to know a lot of people are just > laughing at them > but it wouldn't be wrong either to just stop laughing > and stop listening. >=20 > Once i hated america, then i went to New York (for free, why not?) and my > mind suddenly opened up just a little bit > of course you have to take the effort to look to the right things, the > right > way >=20 > Steve > (De Clercq, Belgium) >=20 I don't hate americans, some of my best friends are yanks, however it their arrogance of being number 1 annoys me. Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:35:58 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo - --------------11ACB9A21B069BBA8B0D5549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > A lot of Americans are idiots. That's why shows like "Temptation > Island" and > "Who Wants to Marry A Millionaire," thrive here. Many Americans are > the Homer > Simpsons of the world. But like every other country, we have our highs > and > our lows. It's just we seem to be more notorious for our lows. > > ~Matt Matt, that kind of thinking is really what the mechanism behind racism is all about. Thinking one group is somehow superior or inferior to another by the place of their birth. There is little evidence to prove Americans are idiots. If anything, their success as a country shows exactly the opposite. Just a lot of sour grapes from the runner ups. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com - --------------11ACB9A21B069BBA8B0D5549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 
A lot of Americans are idiots. That's why shows like "Temptation Island" and
"Who Wants to Marry A Millionaire," thrive here. Many Americans are the Homer
Simpsons of the world. But like every other country, we have our highs and
our lows. It's just we seem to be more notorious for our lows.

~Matt

Matt, that kind of thinking is really what the mechanism behind racism is all about.  Thinking one group is somehow superior or inferior to another by the place of their birth.

There is little evidence to prove Americans are idiots.  If anything, their success as a country shows exactly the opposite.  Just a lot of sour grapes from the runner ups.
 

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Dexter S.
Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine
Http://www.tendobox.com
  - --------------11ACB9A21B069BBA8B0D5549-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:37:46 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Bye > > This list was good back when the DMA guys were onboard, and I will miss > Dave/Trey Table's comments, but still I must say goodbye. I just don't > enjoy reading the posts anymore - at least on message boards I can pick the > topics that I want to hear about. > > So long. > Later Chris. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:39:34 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > > I don't hate americans, some of my best friends are yanks, however > it their arrogance of being number 1 annoys me. > > Luke > I don't know which annoy more. The American arrogance that they are number 1, which is true, or the French arrogance that they were number 1. Either way, I think the Chinese will kick both their white asses =) - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:03 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] CDs > Rofl. The quality of songs on napster isn't exactly the greatest though. > Even some 320 kbps songs sound pretty bad. People just don't know how to > encode. > I have had some bad Mp3's but most have been good quality. Especially "Dr. Dre's The Chronic 2001" who ever I got that off did a wicked job! Luke PS> Is there another source to get MP3's for free off? I haven't really tried. ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:44:33 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] CDs > > I have had some bad Mp3's but most have been good quality. > Especially "Dr. Dre's The Chronic 2001" who ever I got that off did a wicked > job! > > Luke > PS> Is there another source to get MP3's for free off? I haven't > really tried. Audiofind.com is a decent service. It's web based. kinda like a rom site. Also, I get nearly 100% of my game music off napster. I can't be bothered to pay exhorbident amounts to import CDs unless I really want it. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:24:23 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > I don't know which annoy more. The American arrogance that they are > number 1, > which is true, or the French arrogance that they were number 1. > > Either way, I think the Chinese will kick both their white asses =) > -- > Dexter S. > Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine > Http://www.tendobox.com > I agree with all that. Especially the French bit. It is actuall quite scary!! Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:52:44 -0600 (CST) From: LittleKathy@webtv.net Subject: [N64] Quiz Time OK all you n64 gamers. I have a Quiz for you. Which musical instrument has the nick name Sweet Potato. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:58:55 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > > Hear! Hear! Most of europe and the rest of the world are just laughing > about > > the states for their ignorance. That's ridiculous...I really don't want a debate over countries here..but that statement is stupid at best...in fact, I find myself laughing at the ignorance of it. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:57:40 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > >> Luke, the world is American centric... The United States leads, everyone > >> else > >> follows. That's the way it is at this point in time. > > This is so wrong and stupid, that it isn't even worth to comment > on.......... Maybe about being "American centric"...but about following the US lead...that is very true. Escpecially when it comes to a world crisis...no one else ever steps up to the plate. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:01:03 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > I mean, doing europe in week? don't make me laugh! it is impossible to see > europe in a week, but the people who do it are in the assumption that they > have seen it all and become instant authorities on europe... I know no one like that...where do you get ideas like that??? Trips to Europe are expensive...most people can't afford to spend more than a week or 2 there on vacation. I've never seen anyone claim to be an expert after a vacation. > this is only a point of view for me, there are also very educated and broad > minded people in the us. It just a shame that they are always overshouted > and powered by the dumb ones.... This really is getting ridiculous. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:25:04 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > > I agree with all that. Especially the French bit. It is actuall > quite scary!! > > Luke > Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the finer things the French has to offer. But since we were on the subject of stereotypes and attitude, I thought i should mention it =) - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:07:57 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Quiz Time In a message dated 1/30/01 7:52:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, LittleKathy@webtv.net writes: << OK all you n64 gamers. I have a Quiz for you. Which musical instrument has the nick name Sweet Potato. >> Oh oh, that's off topic, watch out for Greg;) - -Jed [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:34:02 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > > > Maybe about being "American centric"...but about following the US > lead...that is very true. Escpecially when it comes to a world crisis...no > one else ever steps up to the plate. > > Stryder That's right... The world is too cowardly to solve their own problems. Milosevic slaughters the muslims in Serbia, the European sit around NATO and ask the US to lead. The US led, and when something goes wrong, they are just as quick to ridicule American incompetence and point the fingers at the Americans. Not to insult any Europeans in this list, as I have the highest respect for all of you, but when you speak of American arrogance, you forget to mention we who live in the New World often see European arrogance show up in more subtle ways. In many circles, Americans/ Aussies and Canadians are still seen as European rejects who left Europe because they couldn't make it in the old world. That sentiment I think is pretty accurate. I can't help but feel North Americans are taken advantage of by these foreigners. BTW, Canada pretty much follows where the US goes, no question asked, so I consider Canada/US to be a single unit. It pretty much is, in all but name. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:55:27 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] Quiz Time > OK all you n64 gamers. I have a Quiz for you. Which musical > instrument has the nick name Sweet Potato. > No idea? Ocarina maybe?? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:12:14 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] CDs > Rofl. The quality of songs on napster isn't exactly the greatest though. > Even some 320 kbps songs sound pretty bad. People just don't know how to > encode. Well, but it really has nothing to do with Napster though...the MP3 format is a "lossy" compression. But you are right, some people really screw them up when the make MP3.s..I hate when you get an MP3 and while listening hear a skip or odd noise int eh middle somewhere. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:30:20 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] [Fwd: Dreamcast] > Unfortunatelly, the best anti-piracy techniques are untest, not in the market, > and no industry has yet to adopt a universal standard to protect itself against > such piracy. Until that happens, the entire business model remains unproven > (which has been my point all along) > > anything more, is really just predictions of what might happen. I thought of good example today. The Nomad Jukebox (the MP3 player with the 6GB HD). It can't be used to upload any MP3s. You can put all you want on it....you can even rip CDs with it...but you can't turn around and upload those MP3s to a friends PC or Nomad. Something similar to this could be implemented for consoles with hardrives. If you had a system where a console could only download but not be used to upload back to any other console or PC. Then you could have it set up where there is a system where there is some sort of encrypted checking system that allowed servers being used to distribute upgrades that were meant to be bought could check to see if it was truly the given console at the other end, and not a PC...or have a system where the console itself lacked the ability download directly from a home PC. Not only would this be very hard to get around...but it also means you would have to own a PC in the first place to have any hope of circumventing it. These types of techs are already in use and fairly easy to implement...of course it may be too late for such a system for the PS2 or DC...but future consoles should easily be able to use such a system. There is ways around anything...but it should be fairly easy to make it hard enough to discourage most and make for a profitable system. Anyway, I never claimed any such system was fully proven...only that I don't think it is nearly as hard to implement successfully as you seem to be implying. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:14:15 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo > Maybe about being "American centric"...but about following the US > lead...that is very true. Escpecially when it comes to a world > crisis...no > one else ever steps up to the plate. > > Stryder > Except in the Southern Hemisphere. US won't get involved there.....again. They leave that to Australia/UK Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:47:28 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo I don't hate americans, some of my best friends are yanks, however it their arrogance of being number 1 annoys me. Luke>>>> At this point it should be noted that none of this was started by us "arrogant" Americans...it was some crazy Canadian who started this with his praise of the USA. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:53:44 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [N64] Sega joins ps2, nintendo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C08AF6.5A50B340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A lot of Americans are idiots. That's why shows like "Temptation Island" = and=20 "Who Wants to Marry A Millionaire," thrive here. Many Americans are the = Homer=20 Simpsons of the world. But like every other country, we have our highs = and=20 our lows. It's just we seem to be more notorious for our lows. >>>> I have to disagree here...I don't think people are idiots for liking = such shows at all. Temptation Island is popular for several reasons. = One, because it is voyeuristic in nature, and most people have some = degree of a voyeuristic side. Two, because people like to watch other = people make themselves look like idiots...which is what often happens on = shows like this. People just like to see confrontations and such...it = has nothing to do people being idiots. As for the Marry a Millionaire = show...it really wasn't all that popular...a lot of people did watch and = talk about it, but only because it was trouble in the making...note that = has not been attempted again. Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01C08AF6.5A50B340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A lot of Americans are idiots. = That's why=20 shows like "Temptation Island" and
"Who Wants to Marry A Millionaire," thrive here. Many = Americans are the=20 Homer
Simpsons of = the world.=20 But like every other country, we have our highs and =
our lows. It's just we seem to be more = notorious for=20 our lows. >>>>
 
 
I have to disagree here...I don't = think people are=20 idiots for liking such shows at all. Temptation Island is popular for = several=20 reasons.  One, because it is voyeuristic in nature, and most people = have=20 some degree of a voyeuristic side.  Two, because people like to = watch other=20 people make themselves look like idiots...which is what often happens on = shows=20 like this.  People just like to see confrontations and such...it = has=20 nothing to do people being idiots.  As for the Marry a Millionaire=20 show...it really wasn't all that popular...a lot of people did watch and = talk=20 about it, but only because it was trouble in the making...note that has = not been=20 attempted again.
 
Stryder
 
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