From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #1503 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Tuesday, May 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1503 Re: [N64] E3 Badges on Ebay /// atE3.com Launches! Re: [N64] life advanced Re: [N64] E3 Badges on Ebay /// atE3.com Launches! Re: [N64] life advanced Re: [N64] Zelda GB commercials on-line Re: [N64] life advanced Re: [N64] life advanced3 Re: [N64] life advanced2 Re: [N64] life advanced ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:00:58 EDT From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] E3 Badges on Ebay /// atE3.com Launches! - --part1_5b.157eace4.2828ad5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/2001 6:08:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes: > > >> I personally disagree completely. E3 is always the biggest show, and I >> think it should be open to more people. Take away from the media's >> opportunity to cover the games? I have yet to see anyone not be able to >> cover E3 effectively. >> >> >> So? Some would argue that sending money on games is stupid...this is all >> part of having a hobby. Who wouldn't love to play some games ahead of >> time? So I can't blame people trying to sneak in...it is likely a lot more >> fun than reading about all the fun some stuffy media guy had. >> >> E3 isn't the show that should be open to more people; a new show (much more like the Tokyo Game Show) would be far more appropriate. While there are the showfloors, media persons do attend a lot of conferences and conduct interviews, something that with public intervention would be a near impossibility. Besides, that just because the media hasn't been able to effectively cover the show yet, flooding the floor with people from the public (who serve no purpose other than to play the game for themselves) will make it utterly impossible. Hobby or not, the bottom line is this: the show isn't meant for the public. It might be more fun for those who sneak in to play the game than to read about it, but what about all those who are unable to attend? How fun is for them when they have nothing to read? Zero. The IDSA should be pressured (or some other large corporation) to open a North American show for the public much like the TGS; but again, E3 isn't that show. Aldo Merino - ------------------ Tendo Box http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_5b.157eace4.2828ad5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/2001 6:08:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thraxen@ipa.net
writes:



I personally disagree completely.  E3 is always the biggest show, and I
think it should be open to more people. Take away from the media's
opportunity to cover the games?  I have yet to see anyone not be able to
cover E3 effectively.  


So?  Some would argue that sending money on games is stupid...this is all
part of having a hobby.  Who wouldn't love to play some games ahead of
time? So I can't blame people trying to sneak in...it is likely a lot more
fun than reading about all the fun some stuffy media guy had.

Stryder

E3 isn't the show that should be open to more people; a new show (much more
like the Tokyo Game Show) would be far more appropriate. While there are the
showfloors, media persons do attend a lot of conferences and conduct
interviews, something that with public intervention would be a near
impossibility. Besides, that just because the media hasn't been able to
effectively cover the show yet, flooding the floor with people from the
public (who serve no purpose other than to play the game for themselves) will
make it utterly impossible.

Hobby or not, the bottom line is this: the show isn't meant for the public.
It might be more fun for those who sneak in to play the game than to read
about it, but what about all those who are unable to attend? How fun is for
them when they have nothing to read? Zero. The IDSA should be pressured (or
some other large corporation) to open a North American show for the public
much like the TGS; but again, E3 isn't that show.

Aldo Merino
------------------
Tendo Box
http://www.tendobox.com


- --part1_5b.157eace4.2828ad5a_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:00:47 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced - --part1_105.30999f3.2828bb5f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/07/2001 6:13:57 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 LARGEEYES@aol.com writes: > But my question is, WHY? it's not exactly totally revolutionary new=20 > technology. For the console market, no. For the handheld market, yes. For the Pok=E9mo= n=20 market, h*ll yeah! ;) - -Eric- - --part1_105.30999f3.2828bb5f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/07/= 2001 6:13:57 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
LARGEEYES@aol.com writes:


But my question is, WHY? &n= bsp;it's not exactly totally revolutionary new=20
technology.


For the console market, no.  For the handheld market, yes.  Fo= r the Pok=E9mon=20
market, h*ll yeah! ;)
-Eric- - --part1_105.30999f3.2828bb5f_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:02:52 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] E3 Badges on Ebay /// atE3.com Launches! - --part1_30.14671919.2828bbdc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 6:34:24 PM Central Daylight Time, kentop3@hotmail.com writes: > Hi. I saw the site and it is saved as one of my favorites. I read about it > on another website, planetgamecube.com i think. It looks good and anything > that planetgamecube.com talks about usually is. I can't wait til e3 for > gamecube goodness. too bad I can't go :(. > Isn't planetgamecube Brian's other site? I can't remember. - -Eric- - --part1_30.14671919.2828bbdc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 6:34:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
kentop3@hotmail.com writes:


Hi. I saw the site and it is saved as one of my favorites. I read about it
on another website, planetgamecube.com i think. It looks good and anything
that planetgamecube.com talks about usually is. I can't wait til e3 for
gamecube goodness. too bad I can't go :(.


Isn't planetgamecube Brian's other site?  I can't remember.
-Eric- - --part1_30.14671919.2828bbdc_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:09:47 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced - --part1_c.15627750.2828bd7b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 7:59:49 PM Central Daylight Time, Devil929@aol.com writes: > It's not about the technology really...it's about the games more than > anything. Unless you're new to the gaming world, you must have some fond > rembrances of games past, that you'd love to be able to play again > (anywhere > at that). Unlike the movie and music industries, the games aren't kept on > shelves for more than a few months, making older games a pain, and > sometimes > an impossibility, to find. For all of us who are saddened to see 2D gaming > take a backseat to 3D gaming, here's a machine that brings back the old art > of 2D gaming to the forefront, where nearly every developer is behind the > machine, some bringing back great franchises, and all working on better > (portable) hardware. > > I managed to play Mario Advance today actually...and I don't see how you > I can see another bright side to it as well. What about those that are new to gaming and have never experienced Mario Bros. 2 or (and for this, I feel truly sorry for them) SMB3 (assuming it will eventually be ported). Gives them a chance to catch up and us a chance to relive. Couldn't get better. - -Eric- - --part1_c.15627750.2828bd7b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 7:59:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
Devil929@aol.com writes:


It's not about the technology really...it's about the games more than
anything. Unless you're new to the gaming world, you must have some fond
rembrances of games past, that you'd love to be able to play again
(anywhere
at that). Unlike the movie and music industries, the games aren't kept on
shelves for more than a few months, making older games a pain, and
sometimes
an impossibility, to find. For all of us who are saddened to see 2D gaming
take a backseat to 3D gaming, here's a machine that brings back the old art
of 2D gaming to the forefront, where nearly every developer is behind the
machine, some bringing back great franchises, and all working on better
(portable) hardware.

I managed to play Mario Advance today actually...and I don't see how you
CAN'T be excited about the console.


I can see another bright side to it as well.  What about those that are new
to gaming and have never experienced Mario Bros. 2 or (and for this, I feel
truly sorry for them) SMB3 (assuming it will eventually be ported).  Gives
them a chance to catch up and us a chance to relive.  Couldn't get better.
-Eric- - --part1_c.15627750.2828bd7b_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:37:38 EDT From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda GB commercials on-line - --part1_df.1444a87d.2828a7e2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 5/7/2001 6:08:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thraxen@ipa.ne= t=20 writes: > Speaking of the GBC Zelda games, who here is planning on getting one or bo= th > of these games? Anyone know how much difference there is between > both....would it be worth it to buy both? >=20 > Stryder The games are entirely different and not like the Pok=E9mon Red/Blue or=20 Gold/Silver games. Both games interact via special items, but neither are=20 necessary to complete the other; they merely give you the "complete"=20 experience. Basically, you're getting two wholly different (well, maybe not=20 gameplay wise per say) games. I'll try to get both, and get reviews up so yo= u=20 can get another opinion on the two games. Aldo Merino - ----------------- Tendo Box http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_df.1444a87d.2828a7e2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 5/7/20= 01 6:08:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thraxen@ipa.net=20
writes:


Speaking of the GBC Zelda g= ames, who here is planning on getting one or both
of these games? Anyone know how much difference there is between
both....would it be worth it to buy both?

Stryder
The games are entirely different and not like the Pok=E9mon Red/Blue or=20
Gold/Silver games. Both games interact via special items, but neither ar= e=20
necessary to complete the other; they merely give you the "complete"=20
experience. Basically, you're getting two wholly different (well, maybe=20= not=20
gameplay wise per say) games. I'll try to get both, and get reviews up s= o you=20
can get another opinion on the two games.

Aldo Merino
-----------------
Tendo Box
http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_df.1444a87d.2828a7e2_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:42:12 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C0D79A.C6F11E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nonononono portable SNES ADVANCED =3D) no really this thing has more potential, did u see the tony hawk video? = These games allready look like last generation snes games and these will = be launch titles; one can imagine whet we may expect the next years Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nutz4n64@aol.com=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced In a message dated 05/07/2001 2:51:29 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 LARGEEYES@aol.com writes:=20 What's the big deal, anyhow? It's a handheld system with graphics = that=20 aren't that great anyways. Who cares???=20 It's a system that might be getting ports of SNES games. Portable = SNES. =20 That's what's the big deal.=20 -Eric-=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C0D79A.C6F11E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nonononono
portable SNES ADVANCED = =3D)
 
no really this thing has more = potential, did u see=20 the tony hawk video? These games allready look like last generation snes = games=20 and these will be launch titles; one can imagine whet we may expect the = next=20 years
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nutz4n64@aol.com=20
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 = 12:39=20 AM
Subject: Re: [N64] life = advanced

In a = message dated=20 05/07/2001 2:51:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
LARGEEYES@aol.com writes: =


What's the big deal, anyhow?  It's a handheld = system with=20 graphics that
aren't that great anyways.  Who cares???=20



It's a system that might be = getting ports=20 of SNES games.  Portable SNES.  
That's what's the big = deal.=20
-Eric- - ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C0D79A.C6F11E40-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:07:10 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0D79E.43B65000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it is part of a series, this is sunday morning advanced there's also a = roadtrip advanced poster with someone sitting in the back of a car and = trough the front window you see aircrafts shooting and explosions it's all referring to situations where one could be playing the GBA and = in the commercial the gamer is mixing up game and reality, he's playing = the GBA in church and mixes up games (army men at start, mario (the = squid), zelda (the guy playing that 'piano' (i don't know the english = word)) some wrestling game and a snowboarding game) with reality. By playing GBA in church or on a roadtrip, these become more bearable, = more fun; it's life advanced. It's apitty so many people don't get it, it's the best commercial = nintendo ever made Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dexter Sy=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced It's just like the PS9 commercial :) All glitz no gameplay.=20 But I can't say its bad. It's certainly inspired. >>=20 Haha...figures you would say that. Inspired by what, I have no = idea. That commercial is just freaking wierd. Life Advance? WTF? Just = for the record, I thought the PS9 commercial was FAR better than that = "thing".=20 Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0D79E.43B65000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it is part of a series, this is sunday = morning=20 advanced there's also a roadtrip advanced poster with someone sitting in = the=20 back of a car and trough the front window you see aircrafts shooting and = explosions
it's all referring to situations where = one could be=20 playing the GBA and in the commercial the gamer is mixing up game and = reality,=20 he's playing the GBA in church and mixes up games (army men at start, = mario (the=20 squid), zelda (the guy playing that 'piano' (i don't know the english = word))=20 some wrestling game and a snowboarding game) with reality.
 
By playing GBA in church or on a = roadtrip, these=20 become more bearable, more fun; it's life advanced.
 
It's apitty so many people don't get = it, it's the=20 best commercial nintendo ever made
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 = 12:53=20 AM
Subject: Re: [N64] life = advanced

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dexter Sy=20
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 = 2:36=20 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] life = advanced

It's just like the PS9 commercial :)  All glitz = no=20 gameplay.=20

But I can't say its bad.  It's certainly inspired. >>=20

Haha...figures you would say = that.  Inspired=20 by what, I have no idea.  That commercial is just freaking = wierd. =20 Life Advance?  WTF? Just for the record, I thought the PS9 = commercial=20 was FAR better than that "thing".=20

Stryder

- ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0D79E.43B65000-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:07:02 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C0D79E.3EBC3420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simple: ol' scool high quality 2D gaming since PSX, Saturn and N64 there has been a total lack of 2D games one might think, OK, but 3D's better, well a lot of gamers who grew up playing 2D won't always agree and a lot = of them would like to play some of that good old mario, castlevenia or = metroid again without actually playing the old version again for the = 10000th time the GBA maybe hasn't got the bes graphyx but it is the best 2D mashine = ever and it gives perfect oppertunity to renew the 2D genre that's also why I am so upset publishers trying to make 3D games for the = system If you look at it as a 3D mashine, the GBA sucks, you can make far = better 2D games on it than 3D and then there' still the fact that if you like portable gaming, this is = the best stuff around. Steve=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LARGEEYES@aol.com=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced In a message dated 5/7/01 5:14:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Devil929@aol.com=20 writes:=20 aren't that great anyways. Who cares???=20 Gamers do.=20 Aldo Merino=20 But my question is, WHY? it's not exactly totally revolutionary new=20 technology.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C0D79E.3EBC3420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Simple: ol' scool high quality 2D=20 gaming
since PSX, Saturn and N64 there has = been a total=20 lack of 2D games
one might think, OK, but 3D's = better,
well a lot of gamers who grew up = playing 2D won't=20 always agree and a lot of them would like to play some of that good old = mario,=20 castlevenia or metroid again without actually playing the old version = again for=20 the 10000th time
the GBA maybe hasn't got the bes = graphyx but it is=20 the best 2D mashine ever and it gives perfect oppertunity to renew the = 2D=20 genre
that's also why I am so upset = publishers trying to=20 make 3D games for the system
If you look at it as a 3D mashine, the = GBA sucks,=20 you can make far better 2D games on it than 3D
 
and then there' still the fact = that if you=20 like portable gaming, this is the best stuff around.
 
Steve 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 LARGEEYES@aol.com
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 = 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [N64] life = advanced

In a = message dated=20 5/7/01 5:14:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes: =



aren't that great anyways.  Who cares???=20


Gamers do.

Aldo Merino=20

But my question is, WHY?  it's not exactly = totally=20 revolutionary new
technology. = - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C0D79E.3EBC3420-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 01:37:49 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] life advanced - --------------1655047559CCCE885D76945D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Haha...figures you would say that. Inspired by what, I have > no idea. That commercial is just freaking wierd. Life > Advance? WTF? Just for the record, I thought the PS9 > commercial was FAR better than that "thing". > > Stryder > Yeeha! It's been a while since we got into a scuffle Aaron. I was beginning to miss the intense debates. :) Whether its better than the PS9 commercial is up to the beholder. You seem to like it more. But I ask myself a very simple question each time I see a game ad. Does it actual tell you what it's selling. By that criteria, the GBA spots are done better, because for all their strangeness, it actually tells you what it's about. Games, which usually is pretty strange as it is. I mean, by their very nature, games are surreal. the PS9 spots were self congratulatory Sony going around patting itself on the back and telling the world there will be PS9. What a bold statemet, its a statement not even Nintendo dared to make in its monopoly days. It's probably something that will come back to bite sony in the ass and columnist will point the commercial and speak of the irony. If you want to get really technical, GBA does have 2 seconds of game footage. So yea, it would be better. But that's just being anally retentive. I fault both commercials for having NO gameplay footage but the GBA spots get the message accross much better. And in the end, that's what matters. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com - --------------1655047559CCCE885D76945D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Haha...figures you would say that.  Inspired by what, I have no idea.  That commercial is just freaking wierd.  Life Advance?  WTF? Just for the record, I thought the PS9 commercial was FAR better than that "thing".

Stryder

Yeeha!  It's been a while since we got into a scuffle Aaron.  I was beginning to miss the intense debates.  :)

Whether its better than the PS9 commercial is up to the beholder.  You seem to like it more.

But I ask myself a very simple question each time I see a game ad.  Does it actual tell you what it's selling.

By that criteria, the GBA spots are done better, because for all their strangeness, it actually tells you what it's about. Games, which usually is pretty strange as it is.  I  mean, by their very nature, games are surreal.
the PS9 spots were self congratulatory Sony going around patting itself on the back and telling the world there will be PS9.  What a bold statemet,  its a statement not even Nintendo dared to make in its monopoly days.  It's probably something that will come back to bite sony in the ass and columnist will point the commercial and speak of the irony.

If you want to get really technical, GBA does have 2 seconds of game footage.  So yea, it would be better.  But that's just being anally retentive.  I fault both commercials for having NO gameplay footage but the GBA spots get the message accross much better.   And in the end, that's what matters.

--
Dexter S.
Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine
Http://www.tendobox.com
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