From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1559 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Thursday, May 31 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1559 Re: [NG] Console Wars Article Re: [NG] The NGC Controller Re: [NG]German cars RE: [NG] European gamers: the selling point Re: [NG]German cars Re: [NG] Console Wars Article [NG] Flash Movie: Bob Buys an Xbox Re: [NG] The NGC Controller Re: [NG] cars [NG] [OT] More on German cars Re: [NG] European gamers: the selling point Re: [NG] [OT] More on German cars [NG] No one's pissed off at this??? Re: [NG] Sony Out to Kill Bleem! Re: [NG] No one's pissed off at this??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:48:48 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Console Wars Article > a high end DVD player for nothing. A simple featureless player as found in > the PS2 is absolute junk IMO. Why is that? First of all, it's not "featureless". It does support both Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1. The menus can be hard to navigate with a controller, but if you don't have a DVD player yet, the PS2 is not a bad start. Exactly what "feature" are you expecting/wanting? > no matter how much I may have talked about it here. I just think that some > day, some how we'll have something that works. If not, so be it. But keep > in mind that in all of this I'm not thinking about later today or next week > or even a year of two from now. I'm talking baby steps over decades. Are > you? I agree overall about the convergence issue though. I personally like separate boxes. BUT, as you pointed out, if you are going to have games on DVDs, you might as well be able to play movies. The same could also be said for internet surfing. If you can play games online, basic surfing should be possible as well....it pretty much has to be if the future plans involve downloading updates or expansions to games. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:26:24 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] The NGC Controller - --part1_de.15597cd8.284705d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/01 3:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, treytable@sega.net writes: > Can you palm a professional basketball, Matt? > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > "I have not forgotten the Dreamcast." > Treytable@sega.net > AIM: Trey Table > Yes, with ease. That's what I wanna know: will my huge, freakish hands be too big for Nintendo's new pad? ~Matt - --part1_de.15597cd8.284705d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/01 3:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes:

Can you palm a professional basketball, Matt?

~~ Dave ~~

"I have not forgotten the Dreamcast."
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: Trey Table

Yes, with ease. That's what I wanna know: will my huge, freakish hands be too
big for Nintendo's new pad?

~Matt - --part1_de.15597cd8.284705d0_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:25:31 EDT From: JesBoM3@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG]German cars i actually drive a rather modified Honda CRX, but as of late i have been convinced that Germany makes superior vehicles. the M3, for example, crafted by BMW, is just as fast as a Corvette (which has an 8-cylinder;the M3 has a 6-in-line) or even the Porsche 911 Carerra (but i am in no way putting down Porsche, they are, after all, from germany too.) And the M3 handles the best of the three. i really want to buy a BMW (my parents drive a 2001 325i) but i make minimum wage working at Rubio's Baja Grill and am a ways off of purchasing one. right now the main object i wish to save for is the Gamecube. Plus i really love my CRX. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:29:11 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [NG] European gamers: the selling point > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Rhodes [SMTP:treytable@sega.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:24 PM > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [NG] European gamers: the selling point > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Moody, Luke > To: 'NGamers@lists.xmission.com' > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:21 AM > Subject: RE: [NG] European gamers: the selling point > > I'm Australian and I enjoy quick kills. > I hate turn based RPG with hit points and stuff. > I like adventures as well and FPS. eg Zelda, Bk and PD, Quake 3, > counter > strike etc.. > > Luke > > > _____ > > > > Yes, but please remember, in the world market, much like the rest of the > southern hemisphere, you don't count much. ;-) > > You wouldn't happen to know Jill Haines? > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > What???? I realise that however we are counted as part of the Euro market. Why I dont kow? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG]German cars Please stay on topic with nintendo discussions. There are othere car mailing list out there for you to join if you want to talk about your modified honda. - -Vi On Wed, 30 May 2001 JesBoM3@aol.com wrote: > i actually drive a rather modified Honda CRX, but as of late i have been > convinced that > Germany makes superior vehicles. the M3, for example, crafted by BMW, is just > as fast as a Corvette (which has an 8-cylinder;the M3 has a 6-in-line) or > even the Porsche 911 Carerra (but i am in no way putting down Porsche, they > are, after all, from germany too.) And the M3 handles the best of the three. > i really want to buy a BMW (my parents drive a 2001 325i) but i make minimum > wage working at Rubio's Baja Grill and am a ways off of purchasing one. right > now the main object i wish to save for is the Gamecube. Plus i really love my > CRX. > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:40:10 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [NG] Console Wars Article > I'm not a fan of convergence, > no matter how much I may have talked about it here. I just think that some > day, some how we'll have something that works. If not, so be it. But keep > in mind that in all of this I'm not thinking about later today or next week > or even a year of two from now. I'm talking baby steps over decades. Are > you? > > Then again, this is a Nintendo listserv. Must remember that. The day is probably a ways away. Certainly wont happen this generation. Even if it did, neither of the 3 consoles will be ready to take advantage of it. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:42:39 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: [NG] Flash Movie: Bob Buys an Xbox hehehe http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/frames.php?id=19288 - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 01:37:04 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] The NGC Controller This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0E972.31FECE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarkBastion@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [NG] The NGC Controller In a message dated 5/30/01 3:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 treytable@sega.net writes:=20 Can you palm a professional basketball, Matt?=20 ~~ Dave ~~=20 =20 "I have not forgotten the Dreamcast."=20 Treytable@sega.net=20 AIM: Trey Table=20 Yes, with ease. That's what I wanna know: will my huge, freakish hands = be too=20 big for Nintendo's new pad?=20 ~Matt=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- You can palm a basketball and take advanced math courses? What kind of = machine are you? I didn't think such a person could exist.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 (Insert witty sig. here) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0E972.31FECE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 DarkBastion@aol.com

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 = 10:26=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] The NGC=20 Controller

In a = message dated=20 5/30/01 3:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes: =

Can you palm a professional basketball, = Matt? =

~~ Dave ~~

"I have = not=20 forgotten the Dreamcast."
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table=20

Yes, with ease. That's what I wanna know: = will my huge,=20 freakish hands be too
big for Nintendo's new pad? =

~Matt=20

You can palm a basketball and take = advanced math=20 courses? What kind of machine are you? I didn't think such a person = could exist.=20

~~ Dave ~~
=
(Insert witty=20 sig. here)
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

- ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0E972.31FECE60-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 01:41:46 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] cars This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0E972.DA4E9320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JesBoM3@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [NG]German cars i actually drive a rather modified Honda CRX, but as of late i have = been=20 convinced that Germany makes superior vehicles. the M3, for example, crafted by BMW, = is just=20 as fast as a Corvette (which has an 8-cylinder;the M3 has a 6-in-line) = or=20 even the Porsche 911 Carerra (but i am in no way putting down Porsche, = they=20 are, after all, from germany too.) And the M3 handles the best of the = three.=20 i really want to buy a BMW (my parents drive a 2001 325i) but i make = minimum=20 wage working at Rubio's Baja Grill and am a ways off of purchasing = one. right=20 now the main object i wish to save for is the Gamecube. Plus i really = love my=20 CRX. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- CRXs are sweet cars. I was surprised at how much room there is inside. = I'm a rather large mutant and yet I had no problems getting in a CRX and = driving it. The only downside is that CRXs aren't that good in a crash. = If I were a king, if I could have anything, I'd have a newer Toyota = Supra, those cars are just plain sweet. But it seems now the only way I'll be able to drive cars like that is in = Gran Turismo 3 or GT Advance. (Keeping it Nintendo related) ~~ Dave ~~ =20 (Insert witty sig. here) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0E972.DA4E9320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 JesBoM3@aol.com=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 = 11:25=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG]German = cars

i actually drive a rather modified Honda CRX, but as of = late i=20 have been
convinced that
Germany makes superior vehicles. the = M3, for=20 example, crafted by BMW, is just
as fast as a Corvette (which has = an=20 8-cylinder;the M3 has a 6-in-line) or
even the Porsche 911 Carerra = (but i=20 am in no way putting down Porsche, they
are, after all, from = germany too.)=20 And the M3 handles the best of the three.
i really want to buy a = BMW (my=20 parents drive a 2001 325i) but i make minimum
wage working at = Rubio's Baja=20 Grill and am a ways off of purchasing one. right
now the main = object i=20 wish to save for is the Gamecube. Plus i really love my =
CRX.

CRXs are sweet cars. I was surprised at = how much=20 room there is inside. I'm a rather large mutant and yet I had no = problems=20 getting in a CRX and driving it. The only downside is that CRXs aren't = that good=20 in a crash. If I were a king, if I could have anything, I'd have a newer = Toyota=20 Supra, those cars are just plain sweet.

But it seems now the only way I'll be = able to drive=20 cars like that is in Gran Turismo 3 or GT Advance. (Keeping it Nintendo=20 related)

~~ Dave ~~
=
(Insert witty=20 sig. here)
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

- ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0E972.DA4E9320-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:05:28 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: [NG] [OT] More on German cars - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [NG]German cars > i actually drive a rather modified Honda CRX, but as of late i have been > convinced that > Germany makes superior vehicles. the M3, for example, crafted by BMW, is just > as fast as a Corvette (which has an 8-cylinder;the M3 has a 6-in-line) or > even the Porsche 911 Carerra (but i am in no way putting down Porsche, they > are, after all, from germany too.) And the M3 handles the best of the three. Well...to be fair, the M3 is not quite as fast as a Corvette. The Corvette will beat it out by at least half a second on 0-60 MPH and by about 20 MPH on top speed. It can beat the Carrera in 0-60 MPH, but not top speed....of course, Porsches are way over priced anyway, so I'd never waste my money on one of those. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:10:54 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [NG] European gamers: the selling point This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E9A9.36FEFFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here in belgium: soccer so nintendo doesn't sell at all for the rest it's about the same as anywhere zelda, PD, halflife, GT series, need for speed,... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LARGEEYES@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [NG] European gamers: the selling point In a message dated 5/30/01 1:21:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:=20 What are European gamers into? Is there one genre that sells well = over=20 there?=20 And why do they call French people Frogs?=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E9A9.36FEFFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

here in belgium: soccer

so nintendo doesn't sell at = all

for the rest it's about the same as=20 anywhere

zelda, PD, halflife, GT series, need = for=20 speed,...

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 LARGEEYES@aol.com

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 = 6:11=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] European = gamers: the=20 selling point

In a = message dated=20 5/30/01 1:21:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:=20

What are European gamers into? Is there one genre = that=20 sells well over
there?

And why do they = call=20 French people Frogs? - ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E9A9.36FEFFC0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:41:16 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] [OT] More on German cars This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E9AD.74B050E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: [NG] [OT] More on German cars ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [NG]German cars Porsches are way over priced anyway, so I'd never waste my money on one of those. Stryder - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- My uncle has a Porsche 911 as a company car. He works for the local VA = (Veteran's Affairs) Hospital. Now that's sweet. Must be why all the = other Vietnam veterans are homeless, my uncle got all their money for = his 911.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 (Insert witty sig. here) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E9AD.74B050E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Thraxen =

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 = 1:05=20 AM

Subject: [NG] [OT] More on = German=20 cars

----- Original Message -----
From: <JesBoM3@aol.com>
To: <NGamers@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [NG]German=20 cars

Porsches are way over priced anyway, so I'd never = waste my=20 money on
one of those.

Stryder

My uncle has a Porsche 911 as a company = car. He=20 works for the local VA (Veteran's Affairs) Hospital. Now that's sweet. = Must be=20 why all the other Vietnam veterans are homeless, my uncle got all their = money=20 for his 911.

~~ Dave ~~
=
(Insert=20 witty sig. here)
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

- ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E9AD.74B050E0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:17:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: [NG] No one's pissed off at this??? .., saturate the market with titles and hardware and let consumer brand name loyalty make the sale." (fwd) This is an excerpt from Sony's pre-E3 presentation. The statement reveals Sony's intent on saturating the market with titles and hardware(little mention of quality in the speech) so as to brainwash consumers into buying Sony's products. This is bad for the industry and I've been saying this for years now. Sony seems to have little concern over the quality of games. Instead they want to continue their successful brainwashing of consumers. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:22:47 EDT From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Sony Out to Kill Bleem! - --part1_103.43004a7.2847f407_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whether you agree or not with Bleem! this is definitely a load of steaming poo. http://www.bleem.com/html/freedom/freedom2.html# - -aldo - --part1_103.43004a7.2847f407_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whether you agree or not with Bleem! this is definitely a load of steaming
poo.

http://www.bleem.com/html/freedom/freedom2.html#

-aldo - --part1_103.43004a7.2847f407_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:40:43 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] No one's pissed off at this??? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0E9F0.6F220FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr.=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: [NG] No one's pissed off at this??? .., saturate the market with titles and hardware and let consumer brand name loyalty make the sale." (fwd)=20 This is an excerpt from Sony's pre-E3 presentation. The statement = reveals Sony's intent on saturating the market with titles and hardware(little mention of quality in the speech) so as to brainwash consumers into = buying Sony's products. This is bad for the industry and I've been saying = this for years now. Sony seems to have little concern over the quality of games. Instead they want to continue their successful brainwashing of consumers. =20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- If that brainwashing includes the likes of Soul Calibur 2, Gran Turismo = 3, Soul Reaver 2, Blood Omen 2, Rad Faction, Metal Gear Solid 2, and = Nothing Can Stop Mr. Domino 2 then let the washing commence. =3D) ~~ Dave ~~ =20 (Insert witty sig. here) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0E9F0.6F220FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Lloyd Millard=20 Mccoy Jr.

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 = 3:17=20 PM

Subject: [NG] No one's pissed = off at=20 this???

.., saturate the market with titles and hardware and = let=20 consumer
= brand name=20 loyalty make the sale." (fwd)

This is an excerpt from = Sony's=20 pre-E3 presentation. The statement reveals
Sony's intent on=20 saturating the market with titles and hardware(little
mention of = quality in=20 the speech) so as to brainwash consumers into buying
Sony's = products. =20 This is bad for the industry and I've been saying this
for years = now. =20 Sony seems to have little concern over the quality of
games. = Instead=20 they want to continue their successful brainwashing = of
consumers. =20

If that brainwashing includes the likes = of Soul=20 Calibur 2, Gran Turismo 3, Soul Reaver 2, Blood Omen 2, Rad = Faction, Metal=20 Gear Solid 2, and Nothing Can Stop Mr. Domino 2 then let the washing = commence.=20 =3D)

~~ Dave ~~
=
(Insert witty=20 sig. here)
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

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