From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1569 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Thursday, June 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1569 Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage Re: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation Re: [NG] GCN specs are changed Re: [NG] la la la connect the dots RE: [NG] Sony [NG] Red Faction [NG] Quake 3 - Revo RE: [NG] Gamecube game list Re: [NG] Quake 3 - Revo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:50:44 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage - --part1_d6.77f87d9.2850e0b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/07/2001 12:30:27 AM Central Daylight Time, LARGEEYES@aol.com writes: > Oh gez, you're getting Anal. Yeah, if the cart is hte size of the machine > itself and has $200 worth of ram in it, it can do what a CD can. But > carts, > I think that's what he meant. Theoretically, not logically. - --part1_d6.77f87d9.2850e0b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/07/2001 12:30:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
LARGEEYES@aol.com writes:

Oh gez, you're getting Anal. Yeah, if the cart is hte size of the machine
itself and has $200 worth of ram in it, it can do what a CD can. But
carts,
in any logical way, can not.

I think that's what he meant. Theoretically, not logically. - --part1_d6.77f87d9.2850e0b4_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:59:38 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage - --part1_b6.1692b2a2.2850e2ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 9:51:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Nutz4n64@aol.com writes: > I think that's what he meant. Yeah, I think I remember Dave saying that the next step for the medium of game storage might be massive, inexpensive cartridges. They are so much faster than any disk, although MS has a great idea with that hard drive (like a built in cartridge they can transfer data to during gameplay). ~Matt "Reality continues to ruin my life." - - Calvin and Hobbes - --part1_b6.1692b2a2.2850e2ca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 9:51:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Nutz4n64@aol.com
writes:

I think that's what he meant. Theoretically, not logically.

Yeah, I think I remember Dave saying that the next step for the medium of
game storage might be massive, inexpensive cartridges. They are so much
faster than any disk, although MS has a great idea with that hard drive (like
a built in cartridge they can transfer data to during gameplay).

~Matt

"Reality continues to ruin my life."

- Calvin and Hobbes

- --part1_b6.1692b2a2.2850e2ca_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Rhodes Subject: Re: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation All I got to say is that the Dreamcast can't handle all the HTML in your = post. I was going to get Conker today, but i ended up with Tony Hawk's Pr= o Skater for Dreamcast, Crash Team Racing, Daytona USA CCE (Saturn, $3.75= NEW), and the latest Tool CD. $60 is a lot to ask for just one thing. ~~Dave on Dreamcast~~=20 > --part1_92.15b80d62.2850df5a_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en >=20 > In a message dated 06/06/2001 11:15:05 PM Central Daylight Time,=3D20 > thraxen@ipa.net writes: >=20 >=20 > > BTW, less than one week to the GBA!!! Wooo Hooo!!!!!!!! > >=3D20 > >=3D20 >=20 > Yeah, less than one week til I get my GBA, then another week til I go t= o=3D20 > Munich. What timing! > -Eric- >=20 > You keep on walking, where will you go? > Walk again, in the company of the wind > March with confidence until you get to where you=3DE2=3D80=3D99re going > Until you finally grab that dream. >=20 > =3DE2=3D80=3D9CKaze to Issho ni=3DE2=3D80=3D9D My=3DC3=3DBBts=3DC3=3DB= B no Gyakush=3DC3=3DBB >=20 > --part1_92.15b80d62.2850df5a_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en >=20 > In a message dat= ed 06/06/=3D > 2001 11:15:05 PM Central Daylight Time,=3D20 >
thraxen@ipa.net writes: >
>
>

LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">BTW, less than one wee= k to=3D20=3D > the GBA!!! =A0Wooo Hooo!!!!!!!! >
>
Strydr

>
>
Yeah, less than one week til I get my GBA, then another week til I = go to=3D > =3D20 >
Munich. =A0What timing! >
-Eric- >
>
You keep on walking, where will you go? >
Walk again, in the company of the wind >
March with confidence until you get to where you=3DE2=3D80=3D99re g= oing >
Until you finally grab that dream. >
>
=3DE2=3D80=3D9CKaze to Issho ni=3DE2=3D80=3D9D =A0My=3DC3=3DBBts=3D= C3=3DBB no Gyakush=3DC3=3D > =3DBB >=20 > --part1_92.15b80d62.2850df5a_boundary-- >=20 > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:01:21 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation - --part1_7b.15dd93f4.285145a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 06/07/2001 3:13:42 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 treytable@sega.net writes: > All I got to say is that the Dreamcast can't handle all the HTML in your=20 > post. I was going to get Conker today, but i ended up with Tony Hawk's Pro= =20 > Skater for Dreamcast, Crash Team Racing, Daytona USA CCE (Saturn, $3.75=20 > NEW), and the latest Tool CD. $60 is a lot to ask for just one thing. >=20 > ~~Dave on Dreamcast~~=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Hmm, didn't you say you didn't like Crash Team Racing? I know someone on=20 this list did. - -Eric- You keep on walking, where will you go? Walk again, in the company of the wind March with confidence until you get to where you=E2=80=99re going Until you finally grab that dream. =E2=80=9CKaze to Issho ni=E2=80=9D Myutsuu no Gyakushu - --part1_7b.15dd93f4.285145a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 06/07/= 2001 3:13:42 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
treytable@sega.net writes:

All I got to say is that th= e Dreamcast can't handle all the HTML in your=20
post. I was going to get Conker today, but i ended up with Tony Hawk's P= ro=20
Skater for Dreamcast, Crash Team Racing, Daytona USA CCE (Saturn, $3.75=20
NEW), and the latest Tool CD. $60 is a lot to ask for just one thing.

~~Dave on Dreamcast~~=20

Hmm, didn't you say you didn't like Crash Team Racing? I know some= one on=20
this list did.
-Eric-

You keep on walking, where will you go?
Walk again, in the company of the wind
March with confidence until you get to where you=E2=80=99re going
Until you finally grab that dream.

=E2=80=9CKaze to Issho ni=E2=80=9D Myutsuu no Gyakushu - --part1_7b.15dd93f4.285145a1_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:20:52 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage - --------------B2832EB58B901396B8905732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> Oh gez, you're getting Anal. Yeah, if the cart is hte size of the >> machine >> itself and has $200 worth of ram in it, it can do what a CD can. >> But >> carts, >> in any logical way, can not. > > I think that's what he meant. Theoretically, not logically. As far as GBA carts are concered, they go up to 256 mbits. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com - --------------B2832EB58B901396B8905732 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Oh gez, you're getting Anal. Yeah, if the cart is hte size of the machine
itself and has $200 worth of ram in it, it can do what a CD can. But
carts,
in any logical way, can not.

I think that's what he meant. Theoretically, not logically.

As far as GBA carts are concered, they go up to 256 mbits.

--
Dexter S.
Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine
Http://www.tendobox.com
- --------------B2832EB58B901396B8905732-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:22:08 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [NG] There is no limit to cartridge storage - --------------7F2E86F8B912752AC870C31F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yeah, I think I remember Dave saying that the next step for the medium > of > game storage might be massive, inexpensive cartridges. They are so > much > faster than any disk, although MS has a great idea with that hard > drive (like > a built in cartridge they can transfer data to during gameplay). > Unless there is a major breakthrough in ROM development, cartridges will be most useful as a supplementary medium. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com - --------------7F2E86F8B912752AC870C31F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yeah, I think I remember Dave saying that the next step for the medium of
game storage might be massive, inexpensive cartridges. They are so much
faster than any disk, although MS has a great idea with that hard drive (like
a built in cartridge they can transfer data to during gameplay).

Unless there is a major breakthrough in ROM development, cartridges will be most useful as a supplementary medium.

--
Dexter S.
Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine
Http://www.tendobox.com
- --------------7F2E86F8B912752AC870C31F-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:48:02 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EF82.615F5B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nutz4n64@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation In a message dated 06/07/2001 3:13:42 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 treytable@sega.net writes:=20 All I got to say is that the Dreamcast can't handle all the HTML in = your=20 post. I was going to get Conker today, but i ended up with Tony = Hawk's Pro=20 Skater for Dreamcast, Crash Team Racing, Daytona USA CCE (Saturn, = $3.75=20 NEW), and the latest Tool CD. $60 is a lot to ask for just one = thing.=20 ~~Dave on Dreamcast~~=20 Hmm, didn't you say you didn't like Crash Team Racing? I know someone = on=20 this list did.=20 -Eric-=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- That was 2 years ago, tastes change. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EF82.615F5B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Nutz4n64@aol.com=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 = 5:01=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Expect = Nintendo to make=20 more $$ this generation

In a = message dated=20 06/07/2001 3:13:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes: =

All I got to say is that the Dreamcast can't handle all = the HTML=20 in your
post. I was going to get Conker today, but i ended up = with Tony=20 Hawk's Pro
Skater for Dreamcast, Crash Team Racing, Daytona USA = CCE=20 (Saturn, $3.75
NEW), and the latest Tool CD. $60 is a lot to ask = for=20 just one thing.

~~Dave on Dreamcast~~=20

Hmm, didn't you say you didn't like = Crash=20 Team Racing? I know someone on
this list did.
-Eric- =

That was 2 years ago, tastes = change.

~~ Dave ~~
=
Segma=20 dogmattagram fishmarket stew
Police in the corner gunnin' for=20 you
Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat
Laugh when the shoot = you
Say,=20 "Please don't do that!" -- Phish
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EF82.615F5B00-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:44:12 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation - --part1_be.15a2fefe.28516bcc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/07/2001 5:47:17 PM Central Daylight Time, treytable@sega.net writes: > That was 2 years ago, tastes change. > > ~~ Dave ~~ > So, two years from now, you'll buy back Zelda? ;) - -Eric- - --part1_be.15a2fefe.28516bcc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/07/2001 5:47:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes:

That was 2 years ago, tastes change.

~~ Dave ~~

So, two years from now, you'll buy back Zelda? ;)
-Eric- - --part1_be.15a2fefe.28516bcc_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:43:48 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] GCN specs are changed Yeah but I was being sarcastic about liking the definition... hence the ;). Usually when you define something you don't use the word you are defining in the definition... or the word 'whatever'. Anyway, I agree, about specs. They are getting so high now that a small change in MHZ is meaningless especially on the Gamecube where no operating system must also be operated in the background. Geoff Taylor wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Fentie" > > > Quoted from http://gamequbed.com: "Processors are the chips that > > process everything. The greater the speed, the better it is at running > > your programs or whatever...Although Microsoft's XBOX's processor is a > > lot faster than GameCube's, it won't really matter when the speeds are > > this high(that's my opinion). Just in case you wanted more information > > on processors, have you ever seen those Pentium 4 commercials? well a > > Pentium 4 is a processor, and it's one of the fastest ones available > > today. The fastest Pentium 4 is around 1.7 GHZ equal to 1700 MHZ. > > Ah, but the speed isn't all that is important within the CPU. Gaming wise, > you can expect a 1.0 GHz P3 running to actually provide higher benchmarks in > games than a 1.4GHz P4. Yup, it's true. The P4 lags behind the P3 in many > benchmarks, although it is much better in others. > > My brother-in-law just graduated from high school last week. As a gift his > parents are buying him a new computer. I took him to my favorite local shop > last week and we got a price list on what I thought would best suit him. > The first thing his father noticed on the price sheet when we were back at > his place was "266MHz" at the top of the page... "Our computer is faster > than that! This thing is $2000??" He was referring to his Celeron 400 > MHz... If he'd only taken a moment more to notice that the 266MHz is the > speed of the front side bus for the Asus tbird mainboard we selected (w/ > 1.4GHz Athlon) . That Celeron system of his only has a 100MHz fsb. Just an > example of what I'm talking about. With bits and buses and polygons make > sure you're looking at the right numbers. :) > > Geoff Taylor > ------------- > GameBoy Station > http://www.gbstation.com > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:54:56 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] la la la connect the dots This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EF94.1B993E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nutz4n64@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Expect Nintendo to make more $$ this generation In a message dated 06/07/2001 5:47:17 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 treytable@sega.net writes:=20 That was 2 years ago, tastes change.=20 ~~ Dave ~~=20 So, two years from now, you'll buy back Zelda? ;)=20 -Eric-=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Could be. I can say that in my experience I bought Bushido Blade about = nine times already. =3D) ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EF94.1B993E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Nutz4n64@aol.com=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 = 7:44=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Expect = Nintendo to make=20 more $$ this generation

In a = message dated=20 06/07/2001 5:47:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes: =

That was 2 years ago, tastes change. =

~~ Dave=20 ~~=20

So, two years from now, you'll buy back = Zelda? ;)=20
-Eric-=20

Could be. I can say that in my = experience I bought=20 Bushido Blade about nine times already. =3D)

- ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0EF94.1B993E80-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:40:37 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [NG] Sony > If you ask me I think Spyro The Dragon surpassed Super Mario 64. It > had > everything SM64 had (not counting Z-Buffering, anti-aliasing, and > mip-mapping) and better camera control. > > ~~ Dave ~~ > (:::Jaw drops to the floor:::) Are you serious? You think that > uninspired, > flaming shit of a game is a match for Super Mario 64??? > > ~Matt > > I agree. what are you saying? M^$ is ten times better. > Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:42:29 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: [NG] Red Faction So who has played Red Faction? I have played a bit of the demo and it looks great but the controll sucked. I hate strafing with the conrol stick. I like Timesplitters config better. Can you change it?? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:44:45 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: [NG] Quake 3 - Revo Who has or played Quake 3 on PS2? I bought it and it's a great game, no point (goals), but a good game anyway. It's really fast and great graphics. Load times suck hard though. Almost a minute!!! What does anyone else think of it? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:58:50 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [NG] Gamecube game list > Sports games made by acclaim, they don't really count as games... > > -Jed > _____ > > > > I really liked All Star Baseball '98 for the N64. > > ~~ Dave ~~ > Me too. It's the best baseball game I've played. Some of the best two player game you can use. When it all depends on you hitting a homer on the bottom of the ninth, your hands seems to sweat so much the pressure is unbearable. Love it!! Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:29:17 EDT From: LARGEEYES@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Quake 3 - Revo - --part1_a8.168bd418.2851a08d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 10:47:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moodyl@cba.com.au writes: > Who has or played Quake 3 on PS2? > I bought it and it's a great game, no point (goals), but a good game anyway. > It's really fast and great graphics. Load times suck hard though. Almost a > minute!!! > What does anyone else think of it? > > WOW, a minute??? Red Faction is about 10-15 seconds, though fairly often. I like RF's continous load, with no real "levels". Does Quake 3 have that? - --part1_a8.168bd418.2851a08d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 10:47:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
moodyl@cba.com.au writes:

Who has or played Quake 3 on PS2?
I bought it and it's a great game, no point (goals), but a good game anyway.
It's really fast and great graphics. Load times suck hard though. Almost a
minute!!!
What does anyone else think of it?

Luke

WOW, a minute??? Red Faction is about 10-15 seconds, though fairly often. I
like RF's continous load, with no real "levels". Does Quake 3 have that? - --part1_a8.168bd418.2851a08d_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1569 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]