From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1588 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Monday, June 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1588 Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance [NG] OT: Auf Wiedersehen, meine Freunde Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance texturesRe: [NG] Turok 2's textures better than most DC textures Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance [NG] GBA game names Re: [NG] More bang for my buck Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance [NG] The Truth About How Store Employees Sell Games Re: [NG] OT Sofa King Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] Purple game names ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:57:24 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question > Anyway my point is, have any of you taken apart your controllers? Is > there anyway to correct for these joystick problems by yourself or does > it HAVE to be serviced by some 'professional'. Thanks.>>>>>> I had one of those! Mine started screwing up after while too. It's no longer around....if I remember correctly, I think it died a quick death via gun fire :-) Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:42:58 EDT From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance - --part1_40.ce974f7.285e8c72_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/17/2001 2:45:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes: > > Yes...it's exactly like the MM situation. I didn't care for MM at all, but > others (like Dexter) loved the game. The same has always been true with > Zelda II...a lot of people hate it and a lot love it. > > Stryder > I agree. Actually, the only Zelda I ever had as a kid was Zelda II -- though I loved the more traditional style of Zelda I & 3 more, Zelda 2 is very much like SMB 2 and Majora's Mask. Of course, I never got far in Zelda 2 as the game scared me to death as a kid and was pretty f'in hard at the time... But nonetheless, it wa a very moody game and really highlighted the sort of Dark/Light aspect as well as the fights. Aldo Merino - ----------------- Tendo Box http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_40.ce974f7.285e8c72_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/17/2001 2:45:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
thraxen@ipa.net writes:



Yes...it's exactly like the MM situation.  I didn't care for MM at all, but
others (like Dexter) loved the game.  The same has always been true with
Zelda II...a lot of people hate it and a lot love it.

Stryder


I agree. Actually, the only Zelda I ever had as a kid was Zelda II -- though
I loved the more traditional style of Zelda I & 3 more, Zelda 2 is very much
like SMB 2 and Majora's Mask. Of course, I never got far in Zelda 2 as the
game scared me to death as a kid and was pretty f'in hard at the time... But
nonetheless, it wa a very moody game and really highlighted the sort of
Dark/Light aspect as well as the fights.

Aldo Merino
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Tendo Box
http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_40.ce974f7.285e8c72_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:39:56 EDT From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: [NG] OT: Auf Wiedersehen, meine Freunde - --part1_e2.164a65e7.285e99cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, for the next few weeks, this list shall be without Nutz. ;) I'm flying out to Munich, Germany tomorrow and won't be back for a while. Therefore, I will be unsubscribing soon. Have fun, guys. Until July 10. - -Eric- - --part1_e2.164a65e7.285e99cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, for the next few weeks, this list shall be without Nutz. ;)  I'm flying
out to Munich, Germany tomorrow and won't be back for a while.  Therefore, I
will be unsubscribing soon.  Have fun, guys.  Until July 10.
-Eric- - --part1_e2.164a65e7.285e99cc_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:59:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance Try playing Gameboy Gear for 1-2 hrs(b4 batteries run out) and after your headache come back to the GBA. I'm glad GBA isn't backlit, backlighting causes headaches in too many people. On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Thraxen wrote: > > I find the PS2 having only two controller ports (and paying $100 more for DVD > playback and other useless feature I won't use) extremely lame. I find the > N64 using a cartridge format extremely lame. And I find the Xbox on a whole > [so far] extremely lame. >>>> > But this is something that people have been asking for/about since the days of the original GB...First the GB, no backlight, but that's OK since it a new system anyway. Then the GB pocket comes along and no backlight (except for an indiglo version only available in Japan)...GBC comes along and no backlight, and now the GBA comes along and STILL no backlight...WTF? Get a damn clue already! > > << already bought a Cobra Light Advance and Cobra AC Adapter for $17 total. The > light works well and the AC Adapter keeps me from every worrying about > batteries since I never play the Game Boy on the road (figures)>>> > > I've tried those various light attachments and I have yet to find one that you couldn't see the reflection of the light itself or some horrible glare on the screen. Also, I don't want a bunch of gizmos attached to my GBA, that's not why I bought it. > > About the AC adapter...how does it work? I don't see any plugs for an AC adapter on the GBA...so does it just plug into the battery slot like the battery packs do? > > << gaming, let along concerning the console ($40 games anyone?). Besides, switch > or no switch, the feature is still there and it's still going to drive > manufacturing costs up. Adding a switch is just going to make a penny more > expensive on top of being backlit;-) >>>> > > Still...adding a backlight is hardly going to be traumatic on the price. What, maybe add $5 to the price? Hell, that just means places like Wal-Mart will just sell it for $95 USD instead of $90. I think most people would realize it's worth it and would be quite pleased to see such a feature considering it's EXTREMELY overdue. The whole idea of this thing is portability and it's extremely annoying to have to always be near a bright light or having to hold the thing at odd angles just to see the screen well enough to play a game. Sure, it's portable...just not very playable while actually toting it somewhere >:-( > > Stryder > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:00:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: texturesRe: [NG] Turok 2's textures better than most DC textures I'm comparing the textures. The textures are on par with many DC games. IMO On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Thraxen wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Devil929@aol.com > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NG] Turok 2's textures better than most DC textures > > > You're not the only one, no. Considering T2 was the best of the series and > how badly T3 sucked, I'm hoping the team can make T4 every bit as good and > creative as the second one was. The early shots [FMV] of the game certainly > seem to be heading that way in some part. It's got a more grizzly style sort > of like JP3. > > Aldo Merino >>> > > T2 was an OK game. The visuals (as fogged up as they were) were pretty impressive. The atmosphere of the game was great and there was some very good level design. BUT, the game was very cheap at times. It was like they made it artificially hard by sometimes placing save points very far apart. Sometimes, I just didn't have the time to spend over an hour hunting down the next save point...not the type of game you could just sit down and play 20 minutes... > > Stryder > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance The Palm route was actually what I had read. I agree, Sony and/or MS shouldn't bank on cell phone gaming. Nintendo's foray into this sector seems to be just an extra source of income. Pocket change really. lloyd On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Dexter Sy wrote: > >> Enter the Sony and MS handheld.........Summer 2003 > > > Sony have said they will be supporting cell phone gaming and Xboy will > come out only if Xbox catches on. > > Frankly, cell phone gaming won't catch on, because the cell phone isn't > designed to play games. If you thought you have trouble punching in > someone's number, trying doing it about three times as fast, because > that's probably the same speed you'll have to go to play games. > > As for Xboy, well, that's IF Xbox catches on, and that's quite iffy > right now. > > Sony also have the rights to manufacture Palm devices so they may go > that route. It would certainly make more sense with the large screens > and possibility of a more game like controller configuration, but that > remains to be seen. > > -- > Dexter S. > Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine > Http://www.tendobox.com > > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:16:11 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: [NG] GBA game names Darn it!!! I was just looking at all the names of the games for GBA and I'm not happy to see "Advance" in most titles. Arg! I got sick of the old "64" bit and now I suppose that they'll start adding "Cube" or "Cubed" to all the NGC games. Not that it changes the game at all, it just gets annoying (just like all the "Super" games however it is my belief that there weren't as many "Super" games as there were "64"). [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:27:41 -0400 From: Wez Subject: Re: [NG] More bang for my buck So while we're on the topic of GBA.....where is the cheapest I can pick one of these fellas up?? Wez [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:19:30 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Lame Boy Advance Has anyone checked this out in regards to the light on the GBA screen (I think Dave may have mentioned it but I didn't know what he was talking about). http://www.interact-acc.com/ignpopup/ipopup.asp?ProductID=p-24-711sm [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:29:41 -0400 From: Wez Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Don Fentie wrote: > Sorry I'm missing something... "sofa king stupid"? It's a popular phrase these days....not the stupid part, but sofa king. Say it outloud and see what it sounds like. Wez [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:24:14 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: [NG] The Truth About How Store Employees Sell Games http://www.wallmartcanadasucks.com/generic.html?pid=4 [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:33:32 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] OT Sofa King This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7D9.BD799680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Sorry I'm missing something... "sofa king stupid"? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Say out loud four times in a row, "I am sofa king stupid." ~~ Dave ~~ =20 I am sofa king stupid. =3D) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7D9.BD799680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don = Fentie=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 = 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy = Advance

Sorry I'm missing something... "sofa king = stupid"?

 
Say out loud four times in a row, "I am = sofa king=20 stupid."
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
 I am=20 sofa king stupid. =3D)
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F7D9.BD799680-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:35:04 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0F7D9.F4713E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:36 PM Subject: [NG] N64 Controller Question Ok here's the story. About 2 years ago my sister lent my N64 to her = b/f (without me knowing on vacation). I had a particular controller = called the "N64 Sharkpad" by InterAct or something like that. Anyway It has = a slowmotion, autofire funtion along with all the other buttons and has = a clear casing to see all the inards of the device. Anyway, on to my point. When I got it back I was playing Mario Kart with my friends = and the Joystick was royally $#&%ed up (god knows what that sob did to = it).=20 By this I mean it moves automatically in UNPREDICABLE directions = usually after the joystick has been tapped. If I reset it (L,R,Start,Z or whatever it is) the stick is corrected and will remain still but as = soon as I touch it again it starts to usually 'drift' off in that direction until reset again. I've never really cared until now because one of = my friends wanted to borrow it and was mad that the joystick was disfuntional. Anyway my point is, have any of you taken apart your controllers? Is there anyway to correct for these joystick problems by yourself or = does it HAVE to be serviced by some 'professional'. Thanks. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- I'd take a hammer to it and use your rich Canadian money to buy a new = one, controllers aren't worth being fixed. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 I am sofa king stupid. =3D) Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0F7D9.F4713E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don = Fentie=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 = 5:36 PM
Subject: [NG] N64 Controller=20 Question

Ok here's the story.  About 2 years ago my sister = lent my=20 N64 to her b/f
(without me knowing on vacation).  I had a = particular=20 controller called
the "N64 Sharkpad" by InterAct or something like=20 that.  Anyway It has a
slowmotion, autofire funtion along with = all the=20 other buttons and has a
clear casing to see all the inards of the=20 device.  Anyway, on to my
point.  When I got it back I = was=20 playing Mario Kart with my friends and
the Joystick was royally = $#&%ed=20 up (god knows what that sob did to it).
By this I mean it moves=20 automatically in UNPREDICABLE directions usually
after the joystick = has=20 been tapped.  If I reset it (L,R,Start,Z or
whatever it is) = the stick=20 is corrected and will remain still but as soon
as I touch it again = it=20 starts to usually 'drift' off in that direction
until reset = again. =20 I've never really cared until now because one of my
friends wanted = to=20 borrow it and was mad that the joystick = was
disfuntional.

Anyway my=20 point is, have any of you taken apart your controllers?  = Is
there=20 anyway to correct for these joystick problems by yourself or = does
it HAVE=20 to be serviced by some 'professional'.  Thanks.

 
I'd take a hammer to it and use = your rich=20 Canadian money to buy a new one, controllers aren't worth being=20 fixed.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
 I am=20 sofa king stupid. =3D)
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0F7D9.F4713E40-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:37:37 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0F7DA.4FC02EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance =20 Yeah, Zelda II did suck, I thought the whole overworld/sidescroller = idea was sofa king stupid.=20 ~~ Dave ~~>>>>>>>>> =20 OK, I just have to ask...what is this whole deal with "sofa king"? = I know this guy who has played assault in Unreal Tournament for PC for a = couple of years now who goes by the name "Sofa King", but I had no idea = where he got his name from. =20 Stryder - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- Say out loud four times in a row, "I am sofa king stupid." Say it in = front of somebody, like maybe your parents or a close friend. ;-) - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0F7DA.4FC02EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 = 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy = Advance

 
Yeah, Zelda II did suck, I thought = the whole=20 overworld/sidescroller idea was sofa king stupid.
 
~~ Dave=20 ~~>>>>>>>>>
 
OK, I just have to ask...what is = this whole=20 deal with "sofa king"?  I know this guy who has=20 played assault in Unreal Tournament for PC for a couple of = years now=20 who goes by the name "Sofa King", but I had no idea where he got his = name=20 from.
 
Stryder
 
Say out loud four times in a row, "I am = sofa king=20 stupid." Say it in front of somebody, like maybe your parents or a close = friend.=20 ;-)
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0F7DA.4FC02EA0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:46:40 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0F7D3.318A9620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Fentie" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance > Really? Man that would SUCK. The graphics sucked and I hated = Zelda > II, it wasn't really like the others.>>> I loved Zelda II....mostly because it was different (same reason I ike = SMB2 so much). The graphics were not that bad at all! The map screen was = so-so, but maps on RPGs are rarely anything spectacular, and this was an NES = game. I loved the side scrolling fighting...felt more like sword battles = when you could block high or low, stup up, stab down, strike high, strike = low... Stryder - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Yeah listen to Stryder it was the first zelda with some serious sword fighting technique and = magic and it had one of the toughest end levels ever. Steve - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0F7D3.318A9620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 = 11:41=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy = Advance


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Fentie" <d.fentie@home.com>
To: = <NGamers@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy=20 Advance


> Really?  Man that would SUCK.  The = graphics=20 sucked and  I hated Zelda
> II, it wasn't really like the=20 others.>>>


I loved Zelda II....mostly because it = was=20 different (same reason I ike SMB2
so much).  The graphics were = not=20 that bad at all!  The map screen was so-so,
but maps on RPGs = are=20 rarely anything spectacular, and this was an NES game.
I loved the = side=20 scrolling fighting...felt more like sword battles when you
could = block high=20 or low, stup up, stab down, strike high, strike=20 low...

Stryder

Yeah listen to Stryder
it was the first zelda with some = serious sword=20 fighting technique and magic
and it had one of the toughest end = levels=20 ever.
 
Steve
- ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0F7D3.318A9620-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:54:54 +0200 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [NG] Purple game names This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0F7D4.57C30560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable they might even ad '128' or 'purple' or 'next' Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:16 AM Subject: [NG] GBA game names Darn it!!! I was just looking at all the names of the games for GBA = and I'm not happy to see "Advance" in most titles. Arg! I got sick of = the old "64" bit and now I suppose that they'll start adding "Cube" or "Cubed" to all the NGC games. Not that it changes the game at all, it just gets annoying (just like all the "Super" games however it is my belief that there weren't as many "Super" games as there were "64"). [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] - ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0F7D4.57C30560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
they might even ad '128' or = 'purple'
or 'next'
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don = Fentie=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 = 8:16 AM
Subject: [NG] GBA game = names

Darn it!!!  I was just looking at all the names of = the=20 games for GBA and
I'm not happy to see "Advance" in most = titles. =20 Arg!  I got sick of the
old "64" bit and now I suppose that = they'll=20 start adding "Cube" or
"Cubed" to all the NGC games.  Not that = it=20 changes the game at all, it
just gets annoying (just like all the = "Super"=20 games however it is my
belief that there weren't as many "Super" = games as=20 there were "64").

[ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the = message=20 "unsubscribe ]
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