From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1590 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Wednesday, June 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1590 RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question Re: [NG] The Truth About How Store Employees Sell Games [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control [NG] TEST [NG] Gamecube Harddrive Re: [NG] I feel dumb asking this... Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control Re: [NG] I feel dumb asking this... Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:22:57 +1000 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance > Wow zelda II is coming to the GBA??? goody goody goody! > > U sure? > the sidescrolling one? > that would be bliss! > > > steve > What was the sidescrolling Zelda Was it on SNES? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Cooper Subject: RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance It was the second Zelda game for the nes....it was sidescroller with a lot of rpg characteristics in it...where did you hear that it was coming to AGB..? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:19:14 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Cooper" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance > It was the second Zelda game for the nes....it was > sidescroller with a lot of rpg characteristics in > it...where did you hear that it was coming to AGB..? A complete list of games can be found here: http://www.gbstation.com/releases.html Zelda II is listed in the GBA 2001 Titles section...it's listed as "TBA" for the release date. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:33:26 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C0F89A.828FFB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Moody, Luke=20 To: 'NGamers@lists.xmission.com'=20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: RE: [NG] Game Boy Advance > Wow zelda II is coming to the GBA??? goody goody goody! >=20 > U sure? > the sidescrolling one? > that would be bliss! >=20 >=20 > steve >=20 What was the sidescrolling Zelda Was it on SNES? Luke - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- It was on the NES, called Zelda II: The Adventures of Link.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Shiggity Shiggity Shwa... Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C0F89A.828FFB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Moody, = Luke=20
To: 'NGamers@lists.xmission.com' =
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 = 9:22 PM
Subject: RE: [NG] Game Boy = Advance



> Wow zelda II is coming to the GBA??? goody = goody=20 goody!
>
> U sure?
> the sidescrolling one?
> = that=20 would be bliss!
>
>
> steve
>
What was = the=20 sidescrolling Zelda  Was it on SNES?

Luke

 
It was on the NES, called Zelda II: The = Adventures=20 of Link.
 
~~ Dave ~~
   =20
 Shiggity
 Shiggity
 Shwa...
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C0F89A.828FFB60-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:28:51 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance > > It was the second Zelda game for the nes....it was > > sidescroller with a lot of rpg characteristics in > > it...where did you hear that it was coming to AGB..? > > A complete list of games can be found here: > > http://www.gbstation.com/releases.html > > Zelda II is listed in the GBA 2001 Titles section...it's listed as "TBA" for > the release date. > > Stryder That has not been made official by Nintendo. It is there because I have heard from multiple sources that it is likely. If and when something official is ever announced you can be sure that every site that covers Nintendo will carry the news. :) Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:47:43 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] N64 Controller Question - --part1_55.17385820.286176df_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/17/01 5:37:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, d.fentie@home.com writes: > Anyway my point is, have any of you taken apart your controllers? Is > there anyway to correct for these joystick problems by yourself or does > it HAVE to be serviced by some 'professional'. Thanks. > I had problems with Super Nintendo controls. I was young and curious(no, I wasn't old enough yet..) so my brothers and I took the controls apart(they were 3rd party controls with auto fire and they were cheap and busted) and the wiring was there. We took it to some guy to get it fixed, however he couldn't, he todl us to buy a new one. - -Jed - --part1_55.17385820.286176df_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/17/01 5:37:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
d.fentie@home.com writes:


Anyway my point is, have any of you taken apart your controllers?  Is
there anyway to correct for these joystick problems by yourself or does
it HAVE to be serviced by some 'professional'.  Thanks.



I had problems with Super Nintendo controls. I was young and curious(no, I
wasn't old enough yet..) so my brothers and I took the controls apart(they
were 3rd party controls with auto fire and they were cheap and busted) and
the wiring was there. We took it to some guy to get it fixed, however he
couldn't, he todl us to buy a new one.
-Jed - --part1_55.17385820.286176df_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:33:30 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] The Truth About How Store Employees Sell Games - --part1_3c.d4ecea7.2861819a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/18/01 2:25:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d.fentie@home.com writes: > http://www.wallmartcanadasucks.com/generic.html?pid=4 > Ah, so you know about wallmartcanadasucks.com doncha? It actually started out as walmartcanada.com and the guy wanted to sell the domain to walmart for big money, however they got it transfered for free and the guy was ticked off, so he bought walmartcanadasucks.com and they took it too, now he has a whole bunch of walmart(country here)sucks.com - -Jed - --part1_3c.d4ecea7.2861819a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/18/01 2:25:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
d.fentie@home.com writes:


http://www.wallmartcanadasucks.com/generic.html?pid=4



Ah, so you know about wallmartcanadasucks.com doncha?
It actually started out as walmartcanada.com and the guy wanted to sell the
domain to walmart for big money, however they got it transfered for free and
the guy was ticked off, so he bought walmartcanadasucks.com and they took it
too, now he has a whole bunch of walmart(country here)sucks.com

-Jed - --part1_3c.d4ecea7.2861819a_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:18:28 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F969.F73C9980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to Penny Arcade for showing me this link. http://pocket.ign.com/news/35946.html ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Shiggity Shiggity Shwa... Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F969.F73C9980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to Penny Arcade for showing me = this=20 link.
 
http://pocket.ign.com/news= /35946.html
 
~~ Dave ~~
   =20
 Shiggity
 Shiggity
 Shwa...
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F969.F73C9980-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:46:25 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: [NG] TEST This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F96D.DF06F320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Testing. My PC has reverted to defaults, to my old Velocity net internet = connection, removing my sega.net account, damn, I hope this works, next = time I'm buying a Mac - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F96D.DF06F320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Testing. My PC has reverted to = defaults, to my old=20 Velocity net internet connection, removing my sega.net account, damn, I = hope=20 this works, next time I'm buying a Mac
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F96D.DF06F320-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:30:26 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F97C.6741CB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know what? I hope the Gamecube never gets a hard drive. The recent = problems I've had today with my internet connection on my PC makes me = glad the Dreamcast doesn't have a hard drive. I mean for some reason = unknown to me my computer reverted to internet settings I had (thought I = had) erased from its memory and lost all my SEGA.net info. I remembered = the phone number and password, but couldn't remember the POP3 and SMTP, = thankfully my Dreamcast did. I think hard drives in consoles will create = more good than bad.=20 On a bit off topic, but since there are some ppl here who are very good = with computers, can anybody tell me why my PC reverted back to the = internet settings I had last summer? (Poppa_P@velocity.net) If you may remember. I was cleaning out Temporary Internet Files from IE = when the PC locked up, it's been doing a lot of that recently, so I shut = down and turned the machine back on, and I got a blue MS-DOS screen that = said it was reverting the configuration and boom, when it started up all = my setting from last summer were there, from startup sounds, to icon = placements, and programs I'm sure I deleted like ICQ and such. It makes = no sense to me. Why did this happen? Dave =20 =20 "A flute without holes is not a flute, A donut without a hole is a danish" ICQ: 78248446 AIM: Super Trey Bros LOOK AT THAT!?! Where did my Shiggity sig. go? What the crap?=20 ~~ Dave ~~ (insert witty sig. here) AIM: Trey Table TreyTable@sega.net - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F97C.6741CB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You know what? I hope the Gamecube = never gets a=20 hard drive. The recent problems I've had today with my internet = connection on my=20 PC makes me glad the Dreamcast doesn't have a hard drive. I mean for = some reason=20 unknown to me my computer reverted to internet settings I had (thought I = had)=20 erased from its memory and lost all my SEGA.net info. I remembered the = phone=20 number and password, but couldn't remember the POP3 and SMTP, thankfully = my=20 Dreamcast did. I think hard drives in consoles will create more good = than bad.=20
 
On a bit off topic, but since there are = some ppl=20 here who are very good with computers, can anybody tell me why my PC = reverted=20 back to the internet settings I had last summer? (Poppa_P@velocity.net)
If you may remember. I was cleaning out = Temporary=20 Internet Files from IE when the PC locked up, it's been doing a lot of = that=20 recently, so I shut down and turned the machine back on, and I got a = blue MS-DOS=20 screen that said it was reverting the configuration and boom, when it = started up=20 all my setting from last summer were there, from startup sounds, to icon = placements, and programs I'm sure I deleted like ICQ and such. It makes = no sense=20 to me. Why did this happen?
 
Dave
   =20
           &nb= sp; =20
    "A flute without holes is not a=20 flute,
      A donut without a hole is a=20 danish"
    ICQ: 78248446
    AIM: = Super=20 Trey Bros
 
LOOK AT THAT!?! Where did my Shiggity = sig.=20 go?
 
What the crap?
 
~~ Dave ~~
 
(insert witty sig. here)
AIM: Trey = Table
TreyTable@sega.net
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F97C.6741CB80-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:11:47 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] I feel dumb asking this... - --part1_37.16bf0f4e.28623353_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/18/01 2:35:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KamotzWeapon@covad.net writes: > This mailing list is just too much for my mailbox. I can't seem to find an > unsubscribe link in any of the messages, and I can't remember what site I > singed up for it on. >_< As I said I feel dumb asking this. How do I get > off the mailing list? you know what, I hope no one bashes you for asking this because it is true, there is nothing at the bottom telling you how to leave. Try this: Email majordomo@lists.xmission.com Put this in the body of the message without the quotes: "unsubscribe NGamers" "end" - -Jed - --part1_37.16bf0f4e.28623353_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/18/01 2:35:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
KamotzWeapon@covad.net writes:


This mailing list is just too much for my mailbox.  I can't seem to find an
unsubscribe link in any of the messages, and I can't remember what site I
singed up for it on. >_< As I said I feel dumb asking this.  How do I get
off the mailing list?



you know what, I hope no one bashes you for asking this because it is true,
there is nothing at the bottom telling you how to leave.
Try this:

Email majordomo@lists.xmission.com

Put this in the body of the message without the quotes:

"unsubscribe NGamers"
"end"

-Jed - --part1_37.16bf0f4e.28623353_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:16:52 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control Yeah I was going to send that in but I thought most people already looked at it. Has anyone tried this yet? I'd be a bit hesitant b/c if a control is hidden it is usually hidden for a reason... > Dave Rhodes wrote: > > Thanks to Penny Arcade for showing me this link. > > http://pocket.ign.com/news/35946.html > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > Shiggity > Shiggity > Shwa... > Treytable@sega.net > AIM: Trey Table [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:21:16 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] I feel dumb asking this... AHahahahhahaha I remember about 2 years ago there was a man who had sent in 5 emails asking how to get off the list because even though he sent in an unsubscribe message to majordomo they still kept him on the list. So one day he said something like "I'm sorry guys for what is about to happen for there is no other way off this list..." Then he proceeded to list off about 40 swears in caps and different sizes on the left hand side of the message ie "F$#k C#NT D@MN B$TCH sh@t F#$K" (without the symbols of course. heheheh Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/18/01 2:35:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > KamotzWeapon@covad.net writes: > > > This mailing list is just too much for my mailbox. I can't seem to > > find an > > unsubscribe link in any of the messages, and I can't remember what > > site I > > singed up for it on. >_< As I said I feel dumb asking this. How do > > I get > > off the mailing list? > > you know what, I hope no one bashes you for asking this because it is > true, > there is nothing at the bottom telling you how to leave. > Try this: > > Email majordomo@lists.xmission.com > > Put this in the body of the message without the quotes: > > "unsubscribe NGamers" > "end" > > -Jed [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:33:53 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control I don't know why they're calling it a contrast control but that is one thing it is certainly not. Then again, we are talking about IGN here... My recommendation is that you don't mess with it. But people will do what they do thanks to that evil cat known as curiousity. ;) Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rhodes" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: [NG] Game Boy Advance Contrast Control Thanks to Penny Arcade for showing me this link. http://pocket.ign.com/news/35946.html ~~ Dave ~~ Shiggity Shiggity Shwa... Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:59:35 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive Are you using Windows Me? Do you install a lot of shareware or other programs on a regular basis? 98% of the time the computer or Windows is not the source of the problem. It's what the user has done to the configuration or all the crappy software that's been installed. I realize that I have somewhat more knowledge about computers than most people (though, there are certainly plenty that know more about 'em than I do) but through the years I can say that I've never really had many problems with my PCs. I don't buy crappy, low end stuff and I don't install junk. My uptime (time since last reboot) at this moment is 6 days, 5 hours, 53 minutes. That's stable enough for me. When I do have problems it tends to be new drivers that I've installed or some other crazy bit of software that I have installed. The fix is simply to remove the crap causing the problem. Of course, I know that this isn't always the case. I have an AMD CPU... with a MSI K7T Pro2-A mainboard. The VIA chipset on my mainboard has a "bug" which conflicts with my SB Live! sound card. It's also not on par with Intel's own chipset but that's another story... until the last VIA drivers were released I had serious problems with games. Thankfully the new drivers cover the bug and games run smooth as silk now. The new GeForce2 Pro that I bought this week might be helping out a bit too. ;) Anyway, my point is that 9 out of 10 times problems with a computer aren't hardware-related or Windows... it's software that that the user has installed or the user has been messing with something in the control panel, the registry or who knows what else the user should not be touching. As for your problem, it sounds like your registry or some other configuration files were corrupted and Windows dug up an older configuration set as replacements. You could be mad that your dial-up info reverted or you could be glad that your computer was able to find a way to boot without a fatal error requiring you to reinstall Windows. You should keep your ISP information (and passwords, anything important) written down somewhere. I use a password-protect program to store all of my info as well as a seperate electronic organizer. Configurations get corrupted and hardware will fail eventually... if you don't have your information backed up, it's your fault that it's gone. :) Call me unimaginative but while my reasoning is different from yours I don't really see a need for the Gamcube to have a hard drive either. A nice big fat memory card will suffice, IMO. Maybe when more people have broadband it'll be more important, but that's a while off. Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rhodes" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive You know what? I hope the Gamecube never gets a hard drive. The recent problems I've had today with my internet connection on my PC makes me glad the Dreamcast doesn't have a hard drive. I mean for some reason unknown to me my computer reverted to internet settings I had (thought I had) erased from its memory and lost all my SEGA.net info. I remembered the phone number and password, but couldn't remember the POP3 and SMTP, thankfully my Dreamcast did. I think hard drives in consoles will create more good than bad. On a bit off topic, but since there are some ppl here who are very good with computers, can anybody tell me why my PC reverted back to the internet settings I had last summer? (Poppa_P@velocity.net) If you may remember. I was cleaning out Temporary Internet Files from IE when the PC locked up, it's been doing a lot of that recently, so I shut down and turned the machine back on, and I got a blue MS-DOS screen that said it was reverting the configuration and boom, when it started up all my setting from last summer were there, from startup sounds, to icon placements, and programs I'm sure I deleted like ICQ and such. It makes no sense to me. Why did this happen? Dave "A flute without holes is not a flute, A donut without a hole is a danish" ICQ: 78248446 AIM: Super Trey Bros LOOK AT THAT!?! Where did my Shiggity sig. go? What the crap? ~~ Dave ~~ (insert witty sig. here) AIM: Trey Table TreyTable@sega.net [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:57:03 -0700 From: "Matt MA" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive >>> TreyTable@sega.net 06/20/01 08:30AM >>> >You know what? I hope the Gamecube never gets a hard drive. The recent=20 I totally agree. I want my console to be 100% plug and play, and 100% = reliable. Having a hard drives will encourage developers to make games = that need to be installed. Hard drives will also get corrupted. My computer crashes enough as it is, I don't need my console to crash too. matt ma [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:16:57 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive - ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Taylor To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Harddrive > > You should keep your ISP information (and passwords, anything important) > written down somewhere. I use a password-protect program to store all of my > info as well as a seperate electronic organizer. Configurations get > corrupted and hardware will fail eventually... if you don't have your > information backed up, it's your fault that it's gone. :) > > Geoff Taylor > ------------- > GameBoy Station > http://www.gbstation.com Well, now I know to keep that info handy. But it was just really aggravating that it happened. I'm in line for a new computer next year, perhaps this time I'll buy a Mac. ~~ Dave ~~ (insert witty sig. here) AIM: Trey Table TreyTable@sega.net [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1590 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]