From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1600 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Monday, June 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1600 Re: [NG] Gamecube launch Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] GC/PS2/XB launches Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] N64 -- VGA Adapter? Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 [NG] Launch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:16:04 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube launch I see at least four that I think I want at launch. Rogue Leader Pikmin Waverace: Blue Storm Super Monkey Ball Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dave Rhodes" Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube launch Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:27:39 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Sharer To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 E. Jefferson wrote: > I though the N64 was Nintendo's current system as the Gamecube isn't > available yet. anywhere. You thought wrong. As soon as Nintendo decided that GC was a "go", it became their current system. You have heard about the concept called "launch titles", haven't you? :) RS - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quite frankly, the only launch (and shortly thereafter) titles I'm interested in for Gamecube are Rogue Squadron 2 and Resident Evil Zero. So far Nintendo hasn't shown diddely squat when it's about NGC launch titles. I could barely keep myself awake looking at Luigi's Mansion, Wave Race: Blue Storm, and Pimpkin. (not sure on the spelling of that last one). Unless Mario makes a grand appearance at Spaceworld I don't think there's any first party Gamecube launch (and yadda yadda yadda) games that strike my fancy. Nintendo better have a new Mario game, something to show for the months of nothing special from them on the N64. Good thing I have a Dreamcast, and to a lesser extent a PlayStation 2. Although it seems now with the PlayStation 2 that it's building up some steam, and maybe by the end of the year it will finally be able to surpass the Dreamcast in terms of selection, good games, and eye candy. ~~ Dave ~~ "If mice could swim they would float with the tide and play with the fish down by the seaside." - -- written on a monitor on the SDF-1 in Episode 7, "Bye-Bye Mars", of the Macross Saga TreyTable@sega.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Trey Table _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:17:54 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Exactly.... Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Thraxen Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:28:34 -0500 > E. Jefferson wrote: > > > I though the N64 was Nintendo's current system as the Gamecube isn't > > available yet. anywhere. > > You thought wrong. As soon as Nintendo decided that GC was a "go", it became > their current system. > > You have heard about the concept called "launch titles", haven't you? :) > > RS OK, you obviously aren't grasping what these guys are saying. Sega decided to ditch the hardware business and become strictly a software developer. YET, in addition to now developing games for the PS2, GC, XBOX, and GBA they are STILL supporting their now dead system (DC). Nintendo, on the other hand, has already completely ditched the N64 even though the GC is still months away and the only systems they have to worry about are the GC and GBA. Sega = DC, PS2, GC, XBOX, GBA Nintendo = GC, GBA So do you get what they are trying to say now? Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:23:33 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] GC/PS2/XB launches http://cube.ign.com/news/35616.html I see 17 for Nov. 5th. Don't forget that Namco is rumored to be working on GC games but didn't have anything at E3. Nintendo might also have a few more titles at SpaceWorld in August. I'd expect the list to grow a bit more. Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Geoff Taylor" Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: Subject: [NG] GC/PS2/XB launches Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:33:31 -0500 Alright, can someone give me some numbers here? The latest EGM states that Xbox will have 15-20 titles at launch, the PS2 had 29, Dreamcast had 18 and Gamecube will have 6. I think those numbers are a bit unfair, without any sort of sidenote explanation. The six Gamecube titles are first party, no? What about the 3rd parties? I know there aren't many but there aren't a few scheduled for launch? It's not like the numbers given for the other systems only include first party titles... did Sony have any of their own for PS2? I know EGM had no intentions of screwing the article up but the blastest piece makes Nintendo look like they haven't changed and anyone that's been paying attention knows that Nintendo has been trying very hard to get the interest of 3rd parties for Gamecube. So, at the moment how many known launch titles are there for Gamecube? Not rumored or expected, but known? Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:35:19 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Personally, I know I'll probably get 2-3 at launch but the more the merrier. Like I said, I see 4 I'm pretty sure I'll buy at launch. More games (especially GOOD games) never hurt. As far as the 'current' dead discussion is concerned, I don't want Nintendo to kill GC games for N64 games. While resources would have to be devoted to make games, Nintendo isn't so small that they couldn't have done one more Mario game like Dave was asking for. They used the Z:OoT engine for Majora's mask. I'm pretty sure they could have done something similar with another franchise, if they'd used (if possible) the same engine. Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Don Fentie Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:57:35 -0600 Ok everyone thats complaining about the N64 being dead right now... let me ask you this: Would you rather have 10 or 17 launch titles (this is just hypothetical the answer is obvious). I just as much as anyone doesn't want to see the GC get shafted with a shortage of launch titles like the N64 once did. Rick Sharer wrote: > > E. Jefferson wrote: > > > I though the N64 was Nintendo's current system as the Gamecube isn't > > available yet. anywhere. > > You thought wrong. As soon as Nintendo decided that GC was a "go", it became > their current system. > > You have heard about the concept called "launch titles", haven't you? :) > > RS > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:54:04 EDT From: Devil929@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] N64 -- VGA Adapter? - --part1_da.8374dcb.2868f0dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curiously, does anyone know if the N64 has a VGA Adapter so you can play it through the monitor -- or does anyone know a set up where I can do that? I'd like to attempt to capture media, but it seems without more traditional dedicated hardware like Dazzle, that's a bit hard. Geoff, you seem to be in the know of most things, any ideas;-)? Anyone? Aldo Merino - ------------------ Tendo Box http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_da.8374dcb.2868f0dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curiously, does anyone know if the N64 has a VGA Adapter so you can play it
through the monitor -- or does anyone know a set up where I can do that? I'd
like to attempt to capture media, but it seems without more traditional
dedicated hardware like Dazzle, that's a bit hard.

Geoff, you seem to be in the know of most things, any ideas;-)? Anyone?

Aldo Merino
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Tendo Box
http://www.tendobox.com - --part1_da.8374dcb.2868f0dc_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:03:13 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 The point of the discussion was not to blow a Sega trumpet about their history. It was to talk about how they've supported the DC with first party games down to the end. Now, it if was Sega who just dropped the ball and were to only release 5 games between the time they announced the end of the DC and now, all the Sega 'haters' (you know who you are :-) ) would be coming out in droves. All I'm saying is, give credit where it's due. If Sega, who has had HORRIBLE support of the systems in the past (and even with the DC like the BBA), can give DC owners something to play down the end, couldn't and wouldn't you expect Nintendo to do the same thing? That's it. No more, no less. And what Nintendo fan wouldn't have bought another Mario game on the N64? What's so hard about that to understand, I don't know. BTW, If you don't want to pay $60 for an N64 now, imagine how you'd feel if you'd bought it at launch. Also, for a 'dead' system, why am I still see N64 games at $60 prices? Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: DarkBastion@aol.com Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:06:12 EDT In a message dated 6/24/01 12:44:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eljam@hotmail.com writes: > Sega has a future on ALL THREE NEXT GEN SYSTEMS. What's so difficult about > that FUTURE to understand? > > Rocket Scientist ;-) > Sega has screwed their customers over numerous times with the Game Gear, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, and now Dreamcast. ONE great game like SA2 does not remedy this, but it helps. Nintendo has, for the most part (and shut up about the Virtual Boy), supported their customers very well. Look at the Game Boy:an 8-year old system gets new games like Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, and Pokémon. Nintendo realizes the dwindling size of the N64 market, and hopes to rectify their mistakes with the awesome GameCube. Now, if 4 years into GameCube's lifetime, Nintendo drops everything for their next console, THEN you all can bitch, but right now, how many of would even WANT to pay $60 for a great new N64? I thought so. ~Matt "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - - Douglas Adams _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:00:55 -0500 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 E. Jefferson wrote: > In your opinion. But, the fact is the Gamecube is not available to the > public yet. A launch is when a system is AVAILABLE to the public. Anybody > bought a GC yet? :-) Heh, the point being that NINTENDO had to start working on launch titles the minute they knew GC was on. The games don't just write themselves overnight, ya know. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:06:46 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies That's all I'm saying. I think I heard a rumor about Majesco & the N64... ;-) lol Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dave Rhodes" Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:55:35 -0400 But back to my original point, I think SEGA is handling the demise of the Dreamcast very responsibly and Nintendo is handling the final days of the N64 very poorly. Who's in charge of the N64 these days? Turbo Technologies Inc.? ~~ Dave ~~ "If mice could swim they would float with the tide and play with the fish down by the seaside." - -- written on a monitor on the SDF-1 in Episode 7, "Bye-Bye Mars", of the Macross Saga TreyTable@sega.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Trey Table _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:29:44 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 I just don't think you understood. I'm not trying to be condescending. My point was that the DC is getting support even though it's dead, while the N64 hasn't and that's not what Nintendo fans would want OR expect. Which lead to the 'it's dead', it's current', yadda, yadda, yadda discussion. What I also said was that while Sega isn't launching a new system, they are supporting multiple platforms, some of which haven't launched and that they've NEVER developed for before. So, in addition to preparing games for the launch of 2 new platforms (which they've never worked on), they're also supporting a notoriously difficult system to develop for this year too. As well as finishing DC games. Therefore, they deserve *some* credit, IMO. The contrast was usually 'customer-conscience' Nintendo who supports down to the end but hasn't performed in the end for the N64 like they've done for other systems. Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rick Sharer Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:17:20 -0500 Thraxen wrote: > OK, you obviously aren't grasping what these guys are saying. That makes all of us. :) > Sega = DC, PS2, GC, XBOX, GBA > Nintendo = GC, GBA > > So do you get what they are trying to say now? Yes, they are saying that SEGA, which is NO LONGER WORRIED about a new system launch, is developing games for its dead system. I am saying that if SEGA did indeed have a new console on the horizon, they would be devoting their $acred time to support that one instead. In other words, you guys are comparing apples and walnuts. *If* SEGA had a system on the way (like NINTENDO), *or if* NINTENDO was calling it quits (like SEGA), *then* you would have a comparable situation and you could make valid comparisons. Do you get what I'm saying? RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:30:57 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies To which the rebuttal was, Nintendo has ended other consoles gracefully, why not the N64? The GC is not a valid excuse because they've do it before. Why not this time? Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rick Sharer Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:23:42 -0500 Dave Rhodes wrote: > But back to my original point, I think SEGA is handling the demise of > the Dreamcast very responsibly and Nintendo is handling the final days > of the N64 very poorly. And back to my original rebuttal, Nintendo has a new console launch to be concerned about, whereas SEGA does not. That makes all the difference here. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:41:43 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 All their capital is not tied up with the GC, otherwise there would be no GBA. While their immediate focus is on the future, they also have to manage and support the products they have out there. It's called life cycle management. IF you couldn't afford a GC for a while and all you had was a N64, would you want Nintendo to stop all N64 support (no more games) or end it gracefully (games for a while after it's life)? Doesn't the fact that Sega's developing for more than one console now offset the fact they aren't doing a hardware launch? Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rick Sharer Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:18:36 -0500 Thraxen wrote: > *sigh* Yes, but your looking at it wrong! > > You still just don't get it...how come Sega seems to have the resources to > support 5 systems while Nintendo can only manage two? That's the whole > point...it has nothing to do with the business situations that got them to > this point. If you want to talk about "NEW" systems, then Sega is in fact > supporting 4 new systems (GC, PS2, XBOX, GBA)...they are all new to Sega. > Get it?? I think the problem may be that your viewpoint is that of a customer while I have taken the viewpoint of the company. Sega may indeed be supporting 4 systems, but that is only because their capital is not tied up in new hardware development, as is the case with Nintendo. But to fault Nintendo for choosing GC development over N64 development is a pretty weak argument. There are only so many dollars in the bank. What would be the mix you're happy with? 10 games for GC and 3 for N64? 7 for GC and 6 for N64? 13 for GC and 0 for N64? I think you'll find the majority of customers would prefer the latter. In any case, SEGA's budget has no $$$ allocated for hardware launch, therefore they have more to spend in developing for other systems. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:42:49 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies So NO fanfare is a better solution? Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dexter Sy Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Turbo Technologies Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:15:54 -0700 > The hardware is finished. The marketing is handled by people other than the > game developers...so why can't they manage a graceful end to the N64? > > Stryder > > Nintendo doesn't want to waste money. I'm sure they can let N64 exit with a lot of fanfare, but at what cost. the money they'd be spending could be better saved for the GameCube. - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:44:44 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Because they made MORE money with software to help make up for the cash flow. It's wasn't that they weren't making money, they weren't making it fast enough, so they had to speed up their cash flow. Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dexter Sy Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:17:26 -0700 > *sigh* Yes, but your looking at it wrong! > > You still just don't get it...how come Sega seems to have the resources to > support 5 systems while Nintendo can only manage two? That's the whole > point...it has nothing to do with the business situations that got them to > this point. If you want to talk about "NEW" systems, then Sega is in fact > supporting 4 new systems (GC, PS2, XBOX, GBA)...they are all new to Sega. > Get it?? > > Stryder If Nintendo goes multi-platform, they can support any amount of system they wish. But running a hardware of your own is an entirely different beast. Sega got out of that to get back into profitability remember? - -- Dexter S. Tendo Box - Nintendo e-zine Http://www.tendobox.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:44 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Just like Sega started working on PS2, GC, and the X-Box when they knew they were discontinuing the DC. Elliot - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rick Sharer Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:00:55 -0500 E. Jefferson wrote: > In your opinion. But, the fact is the Gamecube is not available to the > public yet. A launch is when a system is AVAILABLE to the public. Anybody > bought a GC yet? :-) Heh, the point being that NINTENDO had to start working on launch titles the minute they knew GC was on. The games don't just write themselves overnight, ya know. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:15:27 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Super Mario 64 2 - --part1_10c.1d008b2.2869200f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/25/01 4:03:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eljam@hotmail.com writes: > BTW, If you don't want to pay $60 for an N64 now, imagine how you'd feel if > you'd bought it at launch. Also, for a 'dead' system, why am I still see > N64 games at $60 prices? > > I meant to say, who would want to pay $60 for a new N64 game? No one bought Conker for that price and Conker was an awesome game. And Nintendo better do some serious thinking about the pricing of old games. If I can't get GameCube games for like $20 in a few years, I'm gonna defecate on my GameCube and ship it to NOA. ~Matt "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - - J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945, after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New Mexico. - --part1_10c.1d008b2.2869200f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/25/01 4:03:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
eljam@hotmail.com writes:


BTW, If you don't want to pay $60 for an N64 now, imagine how you'd feel if
you'd bought it at launch.  Also, for a 'dead' system, why am I still see
N64 games at $60 prices?

Elliot
I meant to say, who would want to pay $60 for a new N64 game? No one bought
Conker for that price and Conker was an awesome game.

And Nintendo better do some serious thinking about the pricing of old games.
If I can't get GameCube games for like $20 in a few years, I'm gonna defecate
on my GameCube and ship it to NOA.

~Matt

"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
      
- J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945,
after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New
Mexico. - --part1_10c.1d008b2.2869200f_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:19:51 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: [NG] Launch - --part1_3a.16ee24ca.28692117_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, let's see. For the launch, I want to get: 1. A GameCube 2. An extra controller 3. One Digicard 4. Super Smash Brothers Melee 5. Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II 6. Pikmin According to IGNCube, all of that stuff will cost about $384.78, probably $404.78 since Nintendo's game pads and digicards will be more than Interacts. Shit, I already have $443 in the bank, and I got all summer to save ... ~Matt "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - - Douglas Adams - --part1_3a.16ee24ca.28692117_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, let's see. For the launch, I want to get:

1. A GameCube
2. An extra controller
3. One Digicard
4. Super Smash Brothers Melee
5. Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II
6. Pikmin

According to IGNCube, all of that stuff will cost about $384.78, probably
$404.78 since Nintendo's game pads and digicards will be more than Interacts.
Shit, I already have $443 in the bank, and I got all summer to save ...


~Matt

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

- Douglas Adams

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