From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1698 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Tuesday, October 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1698 Re: [NG] Cube Clubs Re: [NG] SEGA Re: [NG] Cube Clubs Re: [NG] Cube Clubs Re: [NG] SEGA [NG] OT: GTA3 Re: [NG] Cube Clubs Re: [NG] comparisons Re: [NG] XBOX fanboys Re: [NG] Cube Clubs Re: [NG] X-Box should end here ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:08:31 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >From: Thraxen >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:25:59 -0500 > > >I hate waiting! Arrrgh! When it gets down to one week before a system >launch, I'm literally in physical pain from the anticipation. > >Stryder > > Don't think I won't be getting stomach cramps when the week of my birthday comes around (that's November 13). Waiting only REALLY sucks when you know something's really close. I've gotten stomach cramps waiting for Zelda, waiting for my speech in English to be over with, and waiting for the end of the english version of Pokémon 2000. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:00:13 -0400 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] SEGA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C15C05.B5BC6860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX fanboys > Do I have enough room to mention several thousand Apple and Linux applications > and operating systems? HAHA...BS and you know it. Try going to the Apple website (http://www.apple.com/software/) and notice all the updates they have = for their software. I owned a Mac for years and it crashed on me many = times (you know, where you get the bomb icon) like every other computer I've owned. Also, have you even tried Linux??? It takes a lot of work = toeven get it up and running correctly. It's a do-it-yourself kind of OS. = So try again. > But that is still not the point...the point is that it is RARE when = the above > have buggy products, but it is the NORM for Microsoft. Apples do crash less than PCs, but PCs are BY FAR the more open = platform. Which is the point I'm driving at and the point that seems to = continually escape you. (or you simply won't ackowledge). ALL PC software has = bugs and patches. Not just MS software. > You've accepted patches > as a normal way of life. You'll have no problem with XBOX. There = are many > people, however, that want something better. LOL...whatever, dude. The XBOX is a closed platform, there will not = be patches to fix buggy software. Maybe to update rosters and such, but = not for bugs. But I guess if someone like Sega get's lazy, you'll have to = live with the bugs on the GC where the XBOX will have a way out. Stryder - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- I kill you, I kill you I say. SEGA and Lazy don't belong in the same = thought.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C15C05.B5BC6860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 = 6:50=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX = fanboys

> Do I have enough room to mention several thousand = Apple=20 and Linux
applications
> and operating = systems?


HAHA...BS=20 and you know it.  Try going to the Apple website
(http://www.apple.com/software/)<= /A> and=20 notice all the updates they have for
their software.  I owned = a Mac=20 for years and it crashed on me many times
(you know, where you get = the bomb=20 icon) like every other computer I've
owned.  Also, have you = even tried=20 Linux???  It takes a lot of work toeven
get it up and running=20 correctly.  It's a do-it-yourself kind of OS.  So=20 try
again.

> But that is still not the point...the point = is that=20 it is RARE when the
above
> have buggy products, but it is = the NORM=20 for Microsoft.

Apples do crash less than PCs, but PCs are BY = FAR the=20 more open platform.
Which is the point I'm driving at and the point = that=20 seems to continually
escape you. (or you simply won't = ackowledge). =20 ALL PC software has bugs and
patches.  Not just MS=20 software.

> You've accepted patches
> as a normal way = of=20 life.  You'll have no problem with XBOX.  There = are
many
>=20 people, however, that want something better.

LOL...whatever,=20 dude.  The XBOX is a closed platform, there will not = be
patches to fix=20 buggy software.  Maybe to update rosters and such, but not
for = bugs.  But I guess if someone like Sega get's lazy, you'll have = to=20 live
with the bugs on the GC where the XBOX will have a way=20 out.

Stryder


 
I kill you, I kill you I say. = SEGA and=20 Lazy don't belong in the same thought.
 
~~ Dave ~~
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C15C05.B5BC6860-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:07:10 -0400 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C15C06.ADFD43A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs > There was one in Chicago when I went home for homecoming (at my old = high > school), but fat chance my dad would bother taking the 40 minute = drive there > so I can play videogames. *SIGH* Oh well, at least my mom was nice = enough to > go to the local EB last week to reserve the GC. So, now the only = key is > waiting. I think three papers should be enough to make the time go faster. > ;-) > -Satoshi Another note relating to waiting....I just received this e-mail from = EBgames today: ----------------------------------------- > Dear EBgames.com Customer, > > Thank you for your order of xbox related merchandise from = EBgames.com. > You are receiving this email because you ordered xbox games or = accessories > from us that were not part of our bundle. Some of the xbox games = and > accessories will be in stock prior to the arrival of the xbox = itself. In > order to streamline the shipping process for the bundles, we will be > shipping all accessories not included as part of a bundle as they = become > available in our warehouse. What this means is that you may receive = your > additional games and accessories before you receive your console. = We > expect to start receiving some items as early as Tuesday, October = 23rd. ___________________________ On one hand that's cool, but on the other hand that's going to make = the wait even harder!!!! If I actually have some of games and accessories = before the actual system I may well have died from anticipation by the time the = system arrives! Stryder - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- If you do die, heaven forbid, can I be in your will?=20 ~~ Dave ~~ "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C15C06.ADFD43A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 = 7:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Cube = Clubs

> There was one in Chicago when I went home for = homecoming=20 (at my old high
> school), but fat chance my dad would bother = taking the=20 40 minute drive
there
> so I can play videogames. *SIGH* Oh = well, at=20 least my mom was nice enough
to
> go to the local EB last = week to=20 reserve the GC.  So, now the only key is
> waiting.  I = think=20 three papers should be enough to make the time go
faster.
>=20 ;-)
> -Satoshi

Another note relating to waiting....I just = received this e-mail from=20 EBgames
today:
-----------------------------------------
> = Dear=20 EBgames.com Customer,
>
> Thank you for your order of xbox = related=20 merchandise from EBgames.com.
> You are receiving this email = because you=20 ordered xbox games or accessories
> from us that were not part = of our=20 bundle.  Some of the xbox games and
> accessories will be = in stock=20 prior to the arrival of the xbox itself.  In
> order to = streamline=20 the shipping process for the bundles, we will be
> shipping all=20 accessories not included as part of a bundle as they become
> = available=20 in our warehouse.  What this means is that you may receive = your
>=20 additional games and accessories before you receive your = console. =20 We
> expect to start receiving some items as early as Tuesday, = October=20 23rd.
___________________________


On one hand that's = cool, but=20 on the other hand that's going to make the wait
even harder!!!! If = I=20 actually have some of games and accessories before the
actual = system I may=20 well have died from anticipation by the time the=20 system
arrives!

Stryder
 
If you do die, heaven forbid, = can I be in=20 your will?
 
~~ Dave ~~
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C15C06.ADFD43A0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:12:21 -0400 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C15C07.675A9280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eric C=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >From: Thraxen >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:25:59 -0500 > > >I hate waiting! Arrrgh! When it gets down to one week before a = system >launch, I'm literally in physical pain from the anticipation. > >Stryder > > Don't think I won't be getting stomach cramps when the week of my = birthday=20 comes around (that's November 13). Waiting only REALLY sucks when you = know=20 something's really close. I've gotten stomach cramps waiting for = Zelda,=20 waiting for my speech in English to be over with, and waiting for the = end of=20 the english version of Pok=E9mon 2000. ;-) -Satoshi - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Cramps? You should consider yourself lucky. I get the sensation that my = body is expanding and contracting right before a new game/console I had = ordered is ready to come out. Sometimes I get the spine chilling, breath = taking fear of anything and everything. That happened yesterday with = knowing that GTA3 was only hours away. Now tonight I'll probably just = have bad nightmares from the Ultra Violent content of GTA3, or maybe = I'll dream about the hookers? Who knows? ~~ Dave ~~ "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C15C07.675A9280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Eric=20 C
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 = 8:08=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Cube = Clubs

>From: Thraxen <thraxen@ipa.net>
>Reply-To: = NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>To:=20 NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>Subject:=20 Re: [NG] Cube Clubs
>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:25:59=20 -0500
>
>
>I hate waiting!  Arrrgh! When it = gets down=20 to one week before a system
>launch, I'm literally in physical = pain from=20 the anticipation.
>
>Stryder
>
>
Don't = think I=20 won't be getting stomach cramps when the week of my birthday
comes = around=20 (that's November 13).  Waiting only REALLY sucks when you know=20
something's really close.  I've gotten stomach cramps waiting = for=20 Zelda,
waiting for my speech in English to be over with, and = waiting for=20 the end of
the english version of Pok=E9mon 2000. = ;-)
-Satoshi

 
Cramps? You should consider = yourself=20 lucky. I get the sensation that my body is expanding and contracting = right=20 before a new game/console I had ordered is ready to come out. Sometimes = I get=20 the spine chilling, breath taking fear of anything and everything. That = happened=20 yesterday with knowing that GTA3 was only hours away. Now tonight I'll = probably=20 just have bad nightmares from the Ultra Violent content of GTA3, or = maybe I'll=20 dream about the hookers? Who knows?
 
~~ Dave ~~
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C15C07.675A9280-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:27:03 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] SEGA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C15C09.754B1340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I kill you, I kill you I say. SEGA and Lazy don't belong in the same = thought.=20 ~~Dave~~>>>> LOL...I wasn't being serious. Earlier he said that XBOX game developers = were going to be lazy and make games that required patches. I tried on = several occasions to point out that many of the developers are the same = on all the systems. I was just using a high profile example to drive = home how silly his logic is. Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C15C09.754B1340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I kill you, I kill you I say. = SEGA and=20 Lazy don't belong in the same thought.
 
~~Dave~~>>>>
 
LOL...I wasn't being = serious. =20 Earlier he said that XBOX game developers were going to be lazy and make = games=20 that required patches.  I tried on several occasions to point out = that many=20 of the developers are the same on all the systems.  I was just = using a high=20 profile example to drive home how silly his logic is.
 
Stryder
- ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C15C09.754B1340-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:31:47 -0500 From: Thraxen Subject: [NG] OT: GTA3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C15C0A.1E51F300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cramps? You should consider yourself lucky. I get the sensation that my = body is expanding and contracting right before a new game/console I had = ordered is ready to come out. Sometimes I get the spine chilling, breath = taking fear of anything and everything. That happened yesterday with = knowing that GTA3 was only hours away. Now tonight I'll probably just = have bad nightmares from the Ultra Violent content of GTA3, or maybe = I'll dream about the hookers? Who knows?>>>>> Man, I tried to go out and find GTA3 tonight, but met with no success. = SE was sold out and BB and Wal-Mart had not yet received the game. I = should have pre-ordered! I wasn't even sure I wanted the game until = today. But after I read your review on Jed's list and the review on = IGN, I was hit with an urgent need to buy the game. Now I'm stuck with a dilema. Do I go ahead and order the game online = and wait a coupel days for shipping or do I hope I can grab one at Best = Buy tomorrow before they sell out? I'm leaning toward going the BB = route....hopefully they will have enough copies to go around. Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C15C0A.1E51F300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cramps? You should consider = yourself=20 lucky. I get the sensation that my body is expanding and contracting = right=20 before a new game/console I had ordered is ready to come out. Sometimes = I get=20 the spine chilling, breath taking fear of anything and everything. That = happened=20 yesterday with knowing that GTA3 was only hours away. Now tonight I'll = probably=20 just have bad nightmares from the Ultra Violent content of GTA3, or = maybe I'll=20 dream about the hookers? Who knows?>>>>>
 
Man, I tried to go out and = find GTA3=20 tonight, but met with no success.  SE was sold out and BB and = Wal-Mart had=20 not yet received the game.  I should have pre-ordered!  I = wasn't even=20 sure I wanted the game until today.  But after I read your review = on Jed's=20 list and the review on IGN, I was hit with an urgent need to buy the=20 game.
 
Now I'm stuck with a = dilema.  Do I=20 go ahead and order the game online and wait a coupel days for shipping = or do I=20 hope I can grab one at Best Buy tomorrow before they sell out? I'm = leaning=20 toward going the BB route....hopefully they will have enough copies to = go=20 around.
 
Stryder
- ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C15C0A.1E51F300-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:51:03 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >From: "Dave" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:07:10 -0400 > > > > > >If you do die, heaven forbid, can I be in your will? > >~~ Dave ~~ > The TV's mine, Dave, don't even think about it. ;-) j/k _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:22:44 -0500 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] comparisons Dave wrote: > That doesn't sound like comparing to me. OK, you're right...it's more like contrasting. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:25:14 -0500 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] XBOX fanboys Dave wrote: > Looking to see if the reports of Gamecube that locked up running > Pikmin are true? If you've got those reports, please feel free to posts the links right here. I promise you I won't be as defensive and cranky as some people here! :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:27:45 -0500 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Cube Clubs geoff wuehrmann wrote: > I'll be going on Saturday and be spending as long as I can there. Boston is > about 30 minutes from my house so it's not too bad. > Great. Be sure and report in here with what you see (and play), I know I'll appreciate it. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:35:51 -0500 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] X-Box should end here Thraxen wrote: > Umm...that's exactly what I did a few months back when I compared the XBOX > and GC and INTELLIGENTLY listed my reasons for choosing the XBOX first. You > simply posted some lame story about a broken kiosk and DID NOT EVEN ATTEMPT > to relate it to the GC in any way. I think the relationship is obvious. I would spell it out for you but I sure as hades wouldn't want to flame bait you. Heaven forbid. > Your posts...simple flame bait. That is only because you're so defensive about MS and its history of shoddy products. As I explained to the INTELLIGENT people just recently, the "Collapse of the XBOX" article was posted as a confirmation/vindication of my speculation...and I considered it to be quite humorous. Not flamable. > Mine was during the > summer when absolutely nothing was occurring on this list and was an attempt > to generate some intelligent discussion (which failed thx to you). And thanks to you, this thread turned into a flame. And yes, I understand it's all my fault for DARING to laugh at and mock the (expected) failure of XBOX units on a NINTENDO list. Mea culpa. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1698 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]