From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1704 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Monday, October 29 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1704 Re: [NG] Could Abe's Oddyssey(xbox) be done on NGC? Re: [NG] Pikmin Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported Re: [NG] Pikmin Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported [NG] GC on your computer Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported Re: [NG] GC on your computer Re: [NG] Pikmin [NG] GTA3 Still All Good Re: [NG] XP Re: [NG] GC on your computer Re: [NG] XP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:09:23 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Could Abe's Oddyssey(xbox) be done on NGC? > I was at EB and played Abe's Oddyssey on Xbox....it looked great needless > to say. I have not seen the Gamecube yet so I was wondering if someone > has seen both AO and a GC game b/c I'd like to see how the NGC matches up. > > lm>>> Well, AO isn't even close to being one the better games graphically for the XBOX out of the launch games. DOA3 and Halo are much better examples. I'm sure nearly any game on any current system could be done on any other current system...it's just a matter of how much you would have to sacrifice in terms of polys, effects, etc... So, yes, I'm sure any of the current XBOX games could be done on the GC fairly easily. Now when we get down to the second and third generation games I think we'll start to see a gap between the XBOX and GC due to the XBOX's greater graphical prowess. But still, I think any game on the XBOX could be done on GC. The only ones I would question would be those that make heavy use of the HD....those would obviously require greater sacrifices. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:11:23 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C160A5.1E6217E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe so. But, it's a high rated Miyamoto game, which, in my case,=20 equals gold.=20 - -Satoshi You still suit that fanboy thingy...=20 -Jed>>>> I don't Satoshi is a fanboy at all. We've actually had some = intelligent debate on your list and he doesn't go out of his way to = simply bash other consoles. Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C160A5.1E6217E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I believe so. = But, it's a=20 high rated Miyamoto game, which, in my case,
equals gold.=20
-Satoshi

You still suit that fanboy thingy...=20

-Jed>>>>

I don't Satoshi is a fanboy at all. We've = actually had=20 some intelligent debate on your list and he doesn't go out of his way = to=20 simply bash other consoles.

Stryder

- ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C160A5.1E6217E0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:07:18 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported - --part1_a1.1d6ce182.290f6556_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 11:21:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > I hope these "old libraries" and other such problems get resolved before > launch.... > > RS Urgh, I'm sure you hope... - -Jed ____________________________ EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_a1.1d6ce182.290f6556_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 11:21:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:

I hope these "old libraries" and other such problems get resolved before
launch....

RS

Urgh, I'm sure you hope...

-Jed
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EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_a1.1d6ce182.290f6556_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:09:59 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin - --part1_3f.dfba02.290f65f7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 7:14:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes: > You still suit that fanboy thingy... > > -Jed>>>> > > I don't Satoshi is a fanboy at all. We've actually had some intelligent > debate on your list and he doesn't go out of his way to simply bash other > consoles. > > Stryder > I was kidding there, because when he mentioned Miyamoto... - -Jed ____________________________ EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_3f.dfba02.290f65f7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 7:14:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes:

You still suit that fanboy thingy...

-Jed>>>>

I don't Satoshi is a fanboy at all. We've actually had some intelligent debate on your list and he doesn't go out of his way to simply bash other consoles.

Stryder

I was kidding there, because when he mentioned Miyamoto...

-Jed
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EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_3f.dfba02.290f65f7_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:10:30 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > Urgh, I'm sure you hope... Well, certainly, I don't have hope, or put my hope in MS....but I certainly *wish* it would be so. :) Contrary to popular belief here, I would like to enjoy an Xbox in the future, but my experience with MS tells me that *that* most probably won't happen. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:18:37 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: [NG] GC on your computer I'm in a bit of a bind... I have a 52" television with good external stereo and hooked up VCR in my basement however my family is sponsoring an exchange student from Austria in a few months after the GC arrives and she will be staying in that room... this means that either I have to lug the GC upstairs and play where EVERYONE and their dog is or I have to find some way that I can hook it up to my computer in my room. Now I'm serious about this, I need to know how/if this can be done. All I want to do is play the GC on my monitor with my computer speakers and I certainly do not have the know-how. Please if there is anyone out there that is good with this kinda stuff please throw out some possible answers so I may investiagte them further. Thanks [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:18:43 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported - --part1_f.1d0733a1.290f7613_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 10:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > > Urgh, I'm sure you hope... > > Well, certainly, I don't have hope, or put my hope in MS....but I > certainly *wish* it would be so. :) > > Contrary to popular belief here, I would like to enjoy an Xbox in the > future, but my experience with MS tells me that *that* most probably > won't happen. > > RS Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...) - -Jed ____________________________ EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_f.1d0733a1.290f7613_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 10:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:

> Urgh, I'm sure you hope...

Well, certainly, I don't have hope, or put my hope in MS....but I
certainly *wish* it would be so. :)

Contrary to popular belief here, I would like to enjoy an Xbox in the
future, but my experience with MS tells me that *that* most probably
won't happen.

RS

Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...)
-Jed
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EXTENDED WARRANTY? HOW COULD I LOSE ~Homer Simpson - --part1_f.1d0733a1.290f7613_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:30:19 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] High number of Xbox problems reported Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/01 10:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, > rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > > > >> > Urgh, I'm sure you hope... >> >> Well, certainly, I don't have hope, or put my hope in MS....but I >> certainly *wish* it would be so. :) >> >> Contrary to popular belief here, I would like to enjoy an Xbox in >> the >> future, but my experience with MS tells me that *that* most probably >> >> won't happen. >> >> RS > > > > > Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and > I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...) > -Jed Well you can, you just have to have a separate partition where you can switch when you need to. I wonder if some of the Nintendo ports will still run... :) I would suggest either getting a hack for XP, or replacing it with Win2K. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:42:05 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] GC on your computer - --part1_144.3cdc93a.290f7b8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 10:15:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com writes: > Now I'm serious about this, I need to know how/if this can be done. All > I want to do is play the GC on my monitor with my computer speakers and I > certainly do not have the know-how. Please if there is anyone out there > that is good with this kinda stuff please throw out some possible answers > so I may investiagte them further. > > Thanks > Well, here's what I'd do: 1.) Hope the exchange student is hot, that you hit it off, and there's no need for you to be in any other room in the house, or 2.) Move the big TV into your room. ~Matt "Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats 35?" Canyonero! Canyonero! "Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, it's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!" Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero! Hey hey! (The Federal Highway Commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving) Canyonero! "12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!" Canyonero! Canyonero! "Top of the line in Utility Sports, unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!" Canyonero! Canyonero! "She blinds everybody with her super-high beams, she's a squirrel-squashin' deer-smackin' drivin' machine!" Canyonero! Canyonero! - --part1_144.3cdc93a.290f7b8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 10:15:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com writes:

Now I'm serious about this, I need to know how/if this can be done. All
I want to do is play the GC on my monitor with my computer speakers and I
certainly do not have the know-how. Please if there is anyone out there
that is good with this kinda stuff please throw out some possible answers
so I may investiagte them further.

Thanks

Well, here's what I'd do:

1.) Hope the exchange student is hot, that you hit it off, and there's no need for you to be in any other room in the house, or

2.) Move the big TV into your room.

~Matt

"Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats 35?"

Canyonero! Canyonero!

"Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, it's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!"

Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!

Hey hey!

(The Federal Highway Commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving)

Canyonero!

"12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!"

Canyonero! Canyonero!

"Top of the line in Utility Sports, unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!"

Canyonero! Canyonero!

"She blinds everybody with her super-high beams, she's a squirrel-squashin' deer-smackin' drivin' machine!"

Canyonero! Canyonero! - --part1_144.3cdc93a.290f7b8d_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:19:40 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin >From: Jedcross2@aol.com >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:47:45 EST > >In a message dated 10/28/01 11:17:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, >satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes: > > > > >It's SINGLE PLAYER isnt it? > > > > > > > I believe so. But, it's a high rated Miyamoto game, which, in my case, > > equals gold. > > -Satoshi > > >You still suit that fanboy thingy... > >-Jed HAH!! Jed, there's a difference between fan and fanboy. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:25:24 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: [NG] GTA3 Still All Good - --part1_12b.69584de.290f85b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the second city is definitely harder, but it's not cheap. More patrolling cops to worry about, roads are harder to navigate, etc., but it's nothing impossible (like many of the rampages seem to be). I just hope this learning curve doesn't suddenly get very steep. ~Matt "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - - J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945, after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New Mexico. - --part1_12b.69584de.290f85b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the second city is definitely harder, but it's not cheap. More patrolling cops to worry about, roads are harder to navigate, etc., but it's nothing impossible (like many of the rampages seem to be). I just hope this learning curve doesn't suddenly get very steep.

~Matt

"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

- - J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945, after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New Mexico. - --part1_12b.69584de.290f85b4_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:02:33 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] XP This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C160CD.CB02B900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and = I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...)=20 - -Jed >>>>>> Geeze, Jed...quit worrying about software that old and move on. XP got = very good reviews in the latest PC World and I've heard good things from = users on the net. =20 Stryder - ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C160CD.CB02B900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with = XP, and=20 I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...) =
-Jed=20 >>>>>>

Geeze, Jed...quit worrying about software that old and move = on. XP=20 got very good reviews in the latest PC World and I've heard good things = from=20 users on the net.

Stryder

- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C160CD.CB02B900-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:15:57 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] GC on your computer - --------------C98E10F9829C68131ED477E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah she is definately hot... but that still means that I wouldn't be 'playing' the GC so to speak... heh... and I'm sure that Austrians sleep too sometime so I'd have to leave then lest my parents kill me! Oh yeah, that Downstairs TV has gotta weigh upwards of 250 pounds. Lugging that thing up 2 flights of stairs isn't all that easy I'd say. I was reading about this 'Jam' product which allows you to do what I'm trying to accomplish but I think they've gone out of business. DarkBastion@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/01 10:15:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > d.fentie@home.com writes: > > > >> Now I'm serious about this, I need to know how/if this can be done. >> All >> I want to do is play the GC on my monitor with my computer speakers >> and I >> certainly do not have the know-how. Please if there is anyone out >> there >> that is good with this kinda stuff please throw out some possible >> answers >> so I may investiagte them further. >> >> Thanks > > Well, here's what I'd do: > > 1.) Hope the exchange student is hot, that you hit it off, and there's > no need for you to be in any other room in the house, or > > 2.) Move the big TV into your room. > > ~Matt > > "Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive, smells like a steak and > seats 35?" > > Canyonero! Canyonero! > > "Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, it's the country-fried > truck endorsed by a clown!" > > Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero! > > Hey hey! > > (The Federal Highway Commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for > highway or city driving) > > Canyonero! > > "12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!" > > Canyonero! Canyonero! > > "Top of the line in Utility Sports, unexplained fires are a matter for > the courts!" > > Canyonero! Canyonero! > > "She blinds everybody with her super-high beams, she's a > squirrel-squashin' deer-smackin' drivin' machine!" > > Canyonero! Canyonero! - --------------C98E10F9829C68131ED477E7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah she is definately hot... but that still means that I wouldn't be 'playing' the GC so to speak... heh... and I'm sure that Austrians sleep too sometime so I'd have to leave then lest my parents kill me!

Oh yeah, that Downstairs TV has gotta weigh upwards of 250 pounds. Lugging that thing up 2 flights of stairs isn't all that easy I'd say. I was reading about this 'Jam' product which allows you to do what I'm trying to accomplish but I think they've gone out of business.

DarkBastion@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 10/29/01 10:15:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com writes:

Now I'm serious about this, I need to know how/if this can be done. All
I want to do is play the GC on my monitor with my computer speakers and I
certainly do not have the know-how. Please if there is anyone out there
that is good with this kinda stuff please throw out some possible answers
so I may investiagte them further.
Thanks

Well, here's what I'd do:
1.) Hope the exchange student is hot, that you hit it off, and there's no need for you to be in any other room in the house, or
2.) Move the big TV into your room.
~Matt
"Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats 35?"
Canyonero! Canyonero!
"Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, it's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!"
Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!
Hey hey!
(The Federal Highway Commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving)
Canyonero!
"12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!"
Canyonero! Canyonero!
"Top of the line in Utility Sports, unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!"
Canyonero! Canyonero!
"She blinds everybody with her super-high beams, she's a squirrel-squashin' deer-smackin' drivin' machine!"
Canyonero! Canyonero!

- --------------C98E10F9829C68131ED477E7-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:20:19 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] XP - --------------1541A8E4AB57C0A0AE07E248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have XP running on my computer and I'd have to say that I will NEVER go back to the old Windows operating systems! This thing is AWESOME! I have tried to delibrately crash my system and I have not been able to suceed at it yet. The stability is absolutely amazing!! Very cool, it seems that Microsoft finally got an operating system right! About the gaming issue, all you have to do is switch the system to 'Win98' mode or whatever you require and then the games should run fine. There is an MS Dos prompt in the system too however now it is called "Command Prompt". With the increased speed (it only takes me 20 seconds to FULLY boot up my system now and applications run noticably faster) as well as the increased stability AND the removal of the 'blue screen of death' I'd have to say this is a must buy! Oh yeah, just make sure to go to microsoft's home site and see if all your drivers will work. I had to only update my scanner driver and that was it, easy as pie. Thraxen wrote: > > Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and > I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...) > -Jed >>>>>>Geeze, Jed...quit worrying about software that old and move > on. XP got very good reviews in the latest PC World and I've heard > good things from users on the net. Stryder - --------------1541A8E4AB57C0A0AE07E248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have XP running on my computer and I'd have to say that I will NEVER go back to the old Windows operating systems! This thing is AWESOME! I have tried to delibrately crash my system and I have not been able to suceed at it yet. The stability is absolutely amazing!! Very cool, it seems that Microsoft finally got an operating system right!

About the gaming issue, all you have to do is switch the system to 'Win98' mode or whatever you require and then the games should run fine. There is an MS Dos prompt in the system too however now it is called "Command Prompt". With the increased speed (it only takes me 20 seconds to FULLY boot up my system now and applications run noticably faster) as well as the increased stability AND the removal of the 'blue screen of death' I'd have to say this is a must buy!

Oh yeah, just make sure to go to microsoft's home site and see if all your drivers will work. I had to only update my scanner driver and that was it, easy as pie.

Thraxen wrote:

Damn Microsoft, I wanna buy a new PC, but they all come with XP, and I've heard that you cannot run dos(or older programs, like Quake...)
-Jed >>>>>>Geeze, Jed...quit worrying about software that old and move on. XP got very good reviews in the latest PC World and I've heard good things from users on the net. Stryder

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