From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1798 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Tuesday, January 8 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1798 Re: [NG] New Games 2002 Re: [NG] New Games 2002 [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube [NG] Re: Zelda Oracle Compilation? Re: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube Re: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube Re: [NG] Re: Zelda Oracle Compilation? [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:54:45 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] New Games 2002 >From: "Dave" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] New Games 2002 >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:49:43 -0500 > > > >I had a dream I beat Prisons of the Maw last night. I just have to recreate >the settings of my dream and I'll be able to beat it today. All I need to >do is locate a 400 pound gorilla with pink hair that likes to eat Big Macs. >;-) > >** Sanrio ** > Kinda reminds me of when I had a dream about how to beat one of the bosses on Mischief Makers, tried it the next day, and it worked. Creepy. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:20:23 +0100 From: "Michael" Subject: Re: [NG] New Games 2002 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1963F.8F4BCC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 - -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com] Im Auftrag von Thraxen Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Januar 2002 18:44 An: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Betreff: Re: [NG] New Games 2002 Am I? Considering I never really play the sports games online, I don't have an ISP, I don't want to spend $10 on SegaNet games, and considering my Dreamcast will be sitting at home in Houston for this semester, I don't think it's a waste at all. As for the RE games, well, they're all out on the PSX for $20 or less by your reasoning.=20 Call me crazy, but I'm having zero problems finding reasons to hold onto my GameCube. >>>>=20 =20 ##########################################=20 =20 I'm with Dave, that line-up looks bland. Nothing that really peaks my interest. Which is the entire reason I decided to hold off on the GC till next summer or so. I'll have plenty of games to keep me busy till then for PS2 and XBOX. Hell, I've got too many games already. I still haven't played MGS2 =20 =20 2/22/2002 is the release date here. I can't wait... or FFX (both of which I own). I'm still working on Jak and Daxter. I also just bought Silent Hill 2 and Bloodwake for XBOX. Bloodwake is great...of course, as most of you know, I'm a huge fan vehicular combat games. In the first quarter I expect to be buying Maximo and State of Emergency for the PS2 and Gun Valkyrie and Blood Omen 2 for the XBOX....=20 =20 I heard only about a PS2 version of Blood Omen?! =20 and maybe Brute Force as well (the developers of Brute Force claim a March launch, but we'll see). I think there may be others as well, but I don't have a list in front of me to work with. =20 Stryder =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1963F.8F4BCC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nachricht
 
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Von:=20 owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com]=20 Im Auftrag von Thraxen
Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Januar = 2002=20 18:44
An: NGamers@lists.xmission.com
Betreff: Re: = [NG] New=20 Games 2002

Am I? = Considering I never=20 really play the sports games online, I don't have an ISP, I don't want = to=20 spend $10 on SegaNet games, and considering my Dreamcast will be = sitting at=20 home in Houston for this semester, I don't think it's a waste at all. = As for=20 the RE games, well, they're all out on the PSX for $20 or less by your = reasoning.

Call me crazy, but I'm having zero problems finding = reasons=20 to hold onto my GameCube. >>>> 
 
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I'm with = Dave, that=20 line-up looks bland.  Nothing that really peaks my = interest.  Which=20 is the entire reason I decided to hold off on the GC till next summer = or=20 so.  I'll have plenty of games to keep me busy till then for PS2 = and=20 XBOX.  Hell, I've got too many games already.  I still = haven't=20 played MGS2  
 
2/22/2002 is the release date here. I can't=20 wait...
 or FFX (both of which I = own).  I'm=20 still working on Jak and Daxter.  I also just bought Silent Hill = 2 and=20 Bloodwake for XBOX.  Bloodwake is great...of course, as most of = you know,=20 I'm a huge fan vehicular combat games.  In the first quarter I = expect to=20 be buying Maximo and State of Emergency for the PS2 and Gun Valkyrie = and Blood=20 Omen 2   for = the=20 XBOX.... 
 
I heard only about a PS2 version of Blood=20 Omen?!
 
 and maybe Brute Force as well = (the=20 developers of Brute Force claim a March launch, but we'll see).  = I think=20 there may be others as well, but I don't have a list in front of me to = work=20 with.
 
Stryder

 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1963F.8F4BCC60-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:43:03 -0500 (EST) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube Well this might be old news for some but I just found out that golden sun is coming out for the gamecube. That would be a great first rpg to the cube. http://www.ningc.com/ - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:14:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Ballard Subject: [NG] Re: Zelda Oracle Compilation? I have seen on eBay a special 2-in-1 GameBoy cartridge that contains both Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages together. Does anyone know if this is legit? Thanks. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:10:08 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube >From: Vi On >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: n64 >Subject: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:43:03 -0500 (EST) > > > Well this might be old news for some but I just found out >that golden sun is coming out for the gamecube. That would be a >great first rpg to the cube. > >http://www.ningc.com/ > >-Vi > Heard it from CC. I just hope it's a sequel to the GBA game (not a port). I'm currently playing through it, and it's excellent. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:36:25 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube Yeah the game for GBA is definately amazing. I'm just getting back i= nto it after a long bout with SSBM. Eric C wrote: > >From: Vi On > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: n64 > >Subject: [NG] Golden Sun for gamecube > >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:43:03 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > Well this might be old news for some but I just found out > >that golden sun is coming out for the gamecube. That would be a > >great first rpg to the cube. > > > >http://www.ningc.com/ > > > >-Vi > > > Heard it from CC. I just hope it's a sequel to the GBA game (not a= port). > I'm currently playing through it, and it's excellent. > -Satoshi > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:54:10 -0500 (EST) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG] Re: Zelda Oracle Compilation? It is not a legal copy endorse by Nintendo. But yes, it does exist. There are even gameboy cartridges with 40 games in 1, 100 games in 1. Ebay should automaticly close that auction since ebay doesn't allow any of these stuff for sale. - -Vi On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Tim Ballard wrote: > I have seen on eBay a special 2-in-1 GameBoy cartridge that contains both > Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages together. Does anyone know if this is > legit? Thanks. > > Tim > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:14:30 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Have you beat it yet, Eric? I've beaten the last boss three times, twice just as time was expiring for the day...the third time I thought I had it made, as 62 Pikmin were carrying the 40-required Safe back to the ship...time ran out maybe 3 seconds from the ship. Heh. Maybe ONE MORE TIME!!! :) RS Vindicated! News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:25:14 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19861.0D65A760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Have you beat it yet, Eric? I've beaten the last boss three times, twice just as time was expiring = for the day...the third time I thought I had it made, as 62 Pikmin were = carrying the 40-required Safe back to the ship...time ran out maybe 3 seconds from = the ship. Heh. Maybe ONE MORE TIME!!! :) RS Vindicated! News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=3Ditem&id=3D2481 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about faulty Gamecubes on = www.planetxbox.com ? ** Sanrio ** "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19861.0D65A760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rick = Sharer=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 = 4:14=20 PM
Subject: [NG] Pikmin Final = Boss

Have you beat it yet, Eric?

I've beaten the last = boss=20 three times, twice just as time was expiring for the
day...the = third time I=20 thought I had it made, as 62 Pikmin were carrying the
40-required = Safe back=20 to the ship...time ran out maybe 3 seconds from the
ship. =20 Heh.

Maybe ONE MORE TIME!!!  = :)

RS
Vindicated!
News=20 Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty
http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=3Ditem&id=3D2481=


 
Wow. I wonder if there's a = thing about=20 faulty Gamecubes on www.planetxbox.com=20 ?
 
** Sanrio **
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19861.0D65A760-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:28:24 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss - --part1_118.a9a7f78.296cbe78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/02 4:17:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > Have you beat it yet, Eric? > > I've beaten the last boss three times, twice just as time was expiring for > the > day...the third time I thought I had it made, as 62 Pikmin were carrying > the > 40-required Safe back to the ship...time ran out maybe 3 seconds from the > ship. Heh. > > Maybe ONE MORE TIME!!! :) > > RS > Vindicated! > News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty > http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481 > I can't get excited about Pikmin. I have it, and it's cool, but I have no overwhelming desire to go finish it. I just opened the fourth world in December and have not played it since. Maybe after mid terms ... ~Matt "Reality continues to ruin my life." - - Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes - --part1_118.a9a7f78.296cbe78_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/02 4:17:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:


Have you beat it yet, Eric?

I've beaten the last boss three times, twice just as time was expiring for the
day...the third time I thought I had it made, as 62 Pikmin were carrying the
40-required Safe back to the ship...time ran out maybe 3 seconds from the
ship.  Heh.

Maybe ONE MORE TIME!!!  :)

RS
Vindicated!
News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty
http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481


I can't get excited about Pikmin. I have it, and it's cool, but I have no overwhelming desire to go finish it. I just opened the fourth world in December and have not played it since. Maybe after mid terms ...

~Matt

"Reality continues to ruin my life."
      
- - Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes
- --part1_118.a9a7f78.296cbe78_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:39:41 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Dave wrote: > Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about faulty Gamecubes on > www.planetxbox.com ? I'm sure there is...if you read the entire article you'd see that the fail rate was pretty much the same for GC, the difference being, um, the quality of customer support. According to the article, of course. :) Did you say you've tried Pikmin? Maybe you should rent it and see if you don't get addicted as well... RS Vindicated! News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:46:02 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss DarkBastion@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/8/02 4:17:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > I can't get excited about Pikmin. I have it, and it's cool, but I have > no overwhelming desire to go finish it. I just opened the fourth world > in December and have not played it since. Maybe after mid terms ... You know, I was like that after getting the third world. Then I opened the fourth and completely finished that before going back to finish the third. I'm also playing Golden Sun (with SSB:M scattered about :), so it makes a nice complimentary playing package. And when I'm done with these, I'm going back to finish Banjo Tooie where I left the story at Hailfire Peaks. :) RS Vindicated! News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:11:18 -0600 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Sharer To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss RS Vindicated! News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481 Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about faulty Gamecubes on www.planetxbox.com ? ** Sanrio ** Perhaps. But then Planet XBox is just another faulty GameSpy site. Geoff [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 17:48:34 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Geoff Taylor wrote:
Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about faulty Gamecubes on
www.planetxbox.com ?

** Sanrio **

Perhaps.  But then Planet XBox is just another faulty GameSpy site.


Ouch!  :)

What is the name of that file download site that is in conjunction with Gamespy...anybody know?

RS
Vindicated!
News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty
http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2481

Hundreds of XBOX's Were Defective
http://www.msnbc.com/news/682392.asp?0dm=C11KT&cp1=1 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:29:54 -0600 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C19872.77AF5EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it's not www.planetX.com then you should always try www.Xplanet.com = ... so original those folks are. And no, I'm not simply judging GameSpy = on their content. I've been to their HQ in LA when they approached me = about selling GB Station to them in 2000. After four months of = negotiations and dealing with those folks I really have no respect for = anyone affiliated with that company. =20 Stock! Lots of stock! Woohoo! Wait, you're a privately owned company? = Bah! Ooooh, but you're going public soon... and what? ZDNet is = considering buying you up? Yeah. Whatever. Geoff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final Boss Geoff Taylor wrote:=20 Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about faulty Gamecubes on=20 www.planetxbox.com ?=20 ** Sanrio **=20 Perhaps. But then Planet XBox is just another faulty GameSpy site. Ouch! :)=20 What is the name of that file download site that is in conjunction = with Gamespy...anybody know?=20 RS=20 Vindicated!=20 News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were faulty=20 http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=3Ditem&id=3D2481=20 Hundreds of XBOX's Were Defective=20 http://www.msnbc.com/news/682392.asp?0dm=3DC11KT&cp1=3D1 = _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? = Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the = NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" = (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C19872.77AF5EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If it's not www.planetX.com then you should = always try www.Xplanet.com ... so original = those=20 folks are.  And no, I'm not simply judging GameSpy on their = content. =20 I've been to their HQ in LA when they approached me about selling GB = Station to=20 them in 2000.  After four months of negotiations and dealing with = those=20 folks I really have no respect for anyone affiliated with that = company. =20
 
Stock!  Lots of stock!  = Woohoo! =20 Wait, you're a privately owned company?  Bah!  Ooooh, but = you're going=20 public soon... and what?  ZDNet is considering buying you up?  = Yeah.  Whatever. =20 <smirk>
 
Geoff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rick = Sharer=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 = 5:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Pikmin Final = Boss

Geoff Taylor wrote:=20
Wow. I wonder if there's a thing about = faulty=20 Gamecubes on
www.planetxbox.com=20 ?=20

** Sanrio **=20

Perhaps.  But then Planet XBox is just another faulty = GameSpy=20 site.


Ouch!  :)=20

What is the name of that file download site that is in conjunction = with=20 Gamespy...anybody know?=20

RS
Vindicated!
News Article: Hundreds of X-Boxes were = faulty=20
http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=3Ditem&id=3D2481= =20

Hundreds of XBOX's Were Defective
htt= p://www.msnbc.com/news/682392.asp?0dm=3DC11KT&cp1=3D1=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You = Yahoo!? Get=20 your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the = NGamers=20 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the = quotes)=20 to majordomo@xmission.com ]

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