From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1851 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Tuesday, May 21 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1851 Re: [NG] GBA Lights Re: [NG] GBA Lights Re: [NG] Gamecube price drop tuesday [NG] games [NG] colorconsoles Re: [NG] Can Nintendo remain fiscally healthy at such a low price of $149 Re: [NG] games Re: [NG] games Re: [NG] games Re: [NG] games Re: [NG] Can Nintendo remain fiscally healthy at such a low price of$149 [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL [NG] $40 retail price for games Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Poppa Pump Subject: Re: [NG] GBA Lights - --- Tim Ballard wrote: > Has anyone purchased an Afterburner light from > http://www.tritonlabs.com/ > yet? How hard was it to install and is it > significantly better than any > other light on the market? > > Come to think of it, what luck have people had with > the various lights that > are available? The Afterburner is supposed to be > the best, but I don't > think I will be able to install it considering you > have to solder and drill > holes in the GBA, etc. I need something for > simpletons that just snaps on > the outside! > > Thanks. > > Tim Go to Lik-Sang, you can get a GBA with the Afterburner already installed. http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product_info.php?category=6&products_id=1760&PHPSESSID=b61c3e45cbb3a8822da2229bf51d762b For only $109. What a steal. =) ===== ** Dave ** "I hate this. I hate that my blood makes me crazy. I hate that I can't function without being chemically altered." - Billy Chenowith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Poppa Pump Subject: Re: [NG] GBA Lights - --- Thraxen wrote: > > > Has anyone purchased an Afterburner light from > http://www.tritonlabs.com/ > > yet? How hard was it to install and is it > significantly better than any > > other light on the market? > > > > Come to think of it, what luck have people had > with the various lights > that > > are available? The Afterburner is supposed to be > the best, but I don't > > think I will be able to install it considering you > have to solder and > drill > > holes in the GBA, etc. I need something for > simpletons that just snaps on > > the outside! > > Wow...that looks good. I may give it a try. I've > had zero success with any > external light. Every single one produces a glare > on the screen. I hate > them all. > > Stryder Got Glare? No more! http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product_info.php?category=6&products_id=795&PHPSESSID=b61c3e45cbb3a8822da2229bf51d762b ===== ** Dave ** "I hate this. I hate that my blood makes me crazy. I hate that I can't function without being chemically altered." - Billy Chenowith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:14:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube price drop tuesday > > > 149? That'd be nice. But when will new games stop > > > being $50 and go down to $40 with certain games > > going > > > down to $30? That's the news I want to hear. I don't have problem with games being $50 each. Ever since the NES days, games were $50 each. it was up to $60 each with N64 games at one point in time. After all these years, games are still $50 each which is a decent price. Movie tickets has gone from $5 10 years ago to $10 bucks a ticket now just to see Star Wars. Especially games that spent 2 years in development are worth the money. Britney Spears, Superman, Universal Studios Theme park is not worth $50... - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] games > Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's > better that they canceled the PS2 version. > Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this. I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to any console. Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3 consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. I was surprised by the graphics on Omnimusha and FFX for ps2. I was surprised by the graphics on Dead or Alive 3 for xbox I was surprised by the graphics on Resdient Evil for gamecube. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] colorconsoles Since we are on the topic of gba lights. Has anyone tried to color their Gamecube at colorconsoles.com? Since they open back up today, I'm thinking about sending my gamecube sometime this month to get it colored and modified to play import games. They also have gba afterburners too i think. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG] Can Nintendo remain fiscally healthy at such a low price of $149 > It hasn't been a year yet and Nintendo is already down to $149 if the > rumors are true. That is good for the consumer but what about the > company? Are they still losing money on each console or have they started > turning per console profits? I hope $149 doesn't hurt them too > much. Nintendo is profiting selling at $199. If they are hurt at $149, how hurt will Microsoft be selling Xbox at $199? Here is a console that is already losing money at $299. MS controllers are still at $39.99 while both gc and ps2 original controllers are now $25 msrp. Most people who buy a GC, will probably buy 1 memory card, 1 extra controller, and atleast 1 game. Nintendo already makes up the money from there, just as sony and M$ will make money from their accessories as well. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 02:01:27 EDT From: LARGEEYES@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] games - --part1_4d.1e58d133.2a19eb37_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/2002 11:21:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vi@cs.bu.edu writes: > > Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's > > better that they canceled the PS2 version. > > Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this. > > I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to > any console. Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3 > consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. > > I was surprised by the graphics on Omnimusha and FFX for ps2. > I was surprised by the graphics on Dead or Alive 3 for xbox > I was surprised by the graphics on Resdient Evil for gamecube. > > -Vi > I agree. I don't think you have seen a game yet that can't be ported with comparable game play to any of the big 3. - --part1_4d.1e58d133.2a19eb37_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/2002 11:21:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vi@cs.bu.edu writes:


> Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's
> better that they canceled the PS2 version.
> Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this.

I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to
any console.  Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3
consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. 

I was surprised by the graphics on Omnimusha and FFX for ps2.
I was surprised by the graphics on Dead or Alive 3 for xbox
I was surprised by the graphics on Resdient Evil for gamecube.

- -Vi


I agree.  I don't think you have seen a game yet that can't be ported with comparable game play to any of the big 3. - --part1_4d.1e58d133.2a19eb37_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 07:22:59 +0200 From: "Michael" Subject: Re: [NG] games - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vi On" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: [NG] games > > > Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's > > better that they canceled the PS2 version. > > Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this. > > I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to > any console. Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3 > consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. > I better say that IMO the PS2 couldn't handle it in a way better than the DC or at least of the same quality in terms of graphics. Surely, gameplay is the same, but I can't enjoy flickering games. I mean, there must've been a reason why they canceled it? Look at Grandia 2 and you know what I mean. I'm not concerned about the Gamecube version of SoA. _Michael_ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 03:12:03 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] games > > > Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's > > > better that they canceled the PS2 version. > > > Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this. > > > > I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to > > any console. Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3 > > consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. > > > > I better say that IMO the PS2 couldn't handle it in a way better > than the DC or at least of the same quality in terms of graphics. > Surely, gameplay is the same, but I can't enjoy flickering games. > I mean, there must've been a reason why they canceled it? > Look at Grandia 2 and you know what I mean. > > I'm not concerned about the Gamecube version of SoA. > > _Michael_ First off, Skies of Arcadia for PS2 has not been cancelled. Second, Grandia 2 could have looked and played better on PS2 if Game Arts had put more effort into the port. Same thing with Activision's port of Spy Hunter for NGC... Sega, being who they are, will probably put the required attention into porting SoA to both the PS2 and NGC to make either port worth purchasing. Geoff Taylor [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:40 +0200 From: "Michael" Subject: Re: [NG] games - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [NG] games > > > > Btw, Skies of Arcadia is damn awesome. I guess it's > > > > better that they canceled the PS2 version. > > > > Couldn't imagine that PS2 would handle this. > > > > > > I don't think theres any game in the market that can't be ported over to > > > any console. Especially dreamcast games can easily go on any of the 3 > > > consoles no matter how amazing the graphics looks. > > > > > > > I better say that IMO the PS2 couldn't handle it in a way better > > than the DC or at least of the same quality in terms of graphics. > > Surely, gameplay is the same, but I can't enjoy flickering games. > > I mean, there must've been a reason why they canceled it? > > Look at Grandia 2 and you know what I mean. > > > > I'm not concerned about the Gamecube version of SoA. > > > > _Michael_ > > First off, Skies of Arcadia for PS2 has not been cancelled. Second, Grandia > 2 could have looked and played better on PS2 if Game Arts had put more > effort into the port. Same thing with Activision's port of Spy Hunter for > NGC... Sega, being who they are, will probably put the required attention > into porting SoA to both the PS2 and NGC to make either port worth > purchasing. > > Geoff Taylor I can remember some news about it. e.g. http://www.cube-europe.com/news/102173406212820.html After searching a little I found somthing about a delay to 2003. Whatever. Time will tell. Surely, Grandia2 would look better when Game Arts had put more effect into the port. I guess that would suit to every port. Yeah, mabye Sega handles this better. We'll see when it's out. _Michael_ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 03:08:00 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Can Nintendo remain fiscally healthy at such a low price of$149 Understand from experience that electronics are always marked up significantly almost exclusively due to manufactoring cost of miniturization and other small proecdures in making micro-processors and chips. If you can mass-produce these products in such quantities I bet the Cube would cost a surprisingly low dollar count to the manufacturer. Vi On wrote: > > It hasn't been a year yet and Nintendo is already down to $149 if the > > rumors are true. That is good for the consumer but what about the > > company? Are they still losing money on each console or have they started > > turning per console profits? I hope $149 doesn't hurt them too > > much. > > Nintendo is profiting selling at $199. If they are hurt at $149, how > hurt will Microsoft be selling Xbox at $199? Here is a console that is > already losing money at $299. MS controllers are still at $39.99 while > both gc and ps2 original controllers are now $25 msrp. > > Most people who buy a GC, will probably buy 1 memory card, 1 extra > controller, and atleast 1 game. Nintendo already makes up the money from > there, just as sony and M$ will make money from their accessories as well. > > -Vi > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:09:01 +0200 From: "Michael" Subject: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL PRICE DROP OFFICIAL - 20 May Less than one year after successfully launching the GameCube at a mass-market price, Nintendo of America Inc. is dropping the MSRP to $149.95, effective Tuesday, May 21, 2002. Full press-release inside. To date, Nintendo has shipped more than 4.5 million systems worldwide and its hit title, Super Smash Bros.(TM) Melee, has topped the 2.5 million mark. Today's announcement comes as the $27 billion interactive entertainment industry gathers in Los Angeles for the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) to preview the latest and greatest games coming out this holiday. "It's simple, really: Nintendo is committed to offering our players the best games and the best price," says Peter MacDougall, executive vice president, sales and marketing, Nintendo of America Inc. "We were the first manufacturer to reach the $199 price level and now we're leading the industry to $149 -- allowing even more players around the world to get their hands on our legendary favorites like Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and Metroid this year." http://www.gamecubedlx.com - -------------------------------- Now I'm wondering how much the Cube will cost at Xmas. _Michael_ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:01:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Avery Subject: Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL > > Now I'm wondering how much the Cube will cost at Xmas. > I doubt Nintendo will drop the price again before Xmas. But if they do, it will probably be $99. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Poppa Poor Subject: Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL - --- Michael wrote: > PRICE DROP OFFICIAL - 20 May > > says Peter MacDougall, > executive vice president, > sales and marketing, Nintendo of America Inc. "We > were the first > manufacturer to reach the $199 price level and now > we're leading the > industry to $149 Excuse me, Nintendo? ::cough:: SEGA Dreamcast ::cough:: ===== ** Dave ** "I hate this. I hate that my blood makes me crazy. I hate that I can't function without being chemically altered." - Billy Chenowith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:18:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] $40 retail price for games Well, it's a dream come true for many. ps2 games are now officially $39.99 instead of $49.99 http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html or click here if the above is locked http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=APOmDoBSJU29ueSBD - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:25:27 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL Why the change to Poppa Poor instead of Poppa Pump. Poppa Poor wrote: > --- Michael wrote: > > PRICE DROP OFFICIAL - 20 May > > > > says Peter MacDougall, > > executive vice president, > > sales and marketing, Nintendo of America Inc. "We > > were the first > > manufacturer to reach the $199 price level and now > > we're leading the > > industry to $149 > > Excuse me, Nintendo? ::cough:: SEGA Dreamcast ::cough:: > > ===== > ** Dave ** > > "I hate this. I hate that my blood makes me crazy. > I hate that I can't function without being chemically altered." - Billy Chenowith > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:41:40 EDT From: LARGEEYES@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games - --part1_129.11969d61.2a1b0de4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a strange move by Sony. I really don't understand why they would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz. They obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are going for the big N. This really doesn't make a lot of sense for Sony. Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying $50 per game... Jeremy > Well, it's a dream come true for many. ps2 games are now officially > $39.99 instead of $49.99 > > http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html > > or click here if the above is locked > http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht& > s=APOmDoBSJU29ueSBD > > -Vi - --part1_129.11969d61.2a1b0de4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a strange move by Sony.  I really don't understand why they would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz.  They obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are going for the big N.  This really doesn't make a lot of sense for Sony.  Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying $50 per game...


Jeremy


Well, it's a dream come true for many.  ps2 games are now officially
$39.99 instead of $49.99

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html

or click here if the above is locked
http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=APOmDoBSJU29ueSBD

- -Vi


 - --part1_129.11969d61.2a1b0de4_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:45:52 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games - --Boundary_(ID_9CfRLlyncU4pqS6HZqYXBg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT largeeyes@aol.com wrote: > This is a strange move by Sony. I really don't understand why they > would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz. They > obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are > going for the big N. This really doesn't make a lot of sense for > Sony. Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying $50 per > game... > > > Jeremy Ummm... $39.99 is Sony's first party suggest retail price. Third parties can continue to do what they want. Square games have always been on the higher range of games and Capcom certainly felt it was good for them to release RE for $39.99 Considering Sony has few first party properties, I don't see this as anything substantial than a PR thing. Will Nintendo respond to it? They can, and they may. But games like Zelda can sell for $60 and people will still buy it, as was with many N64 titles. Nintendo is in no great rush to match Sony's phantom pricing, as I doubt many of Sony's third parties will be willing to go along with it. They'll do their own pricing. Dexter - --Boundary_(ID_9CfRLlyncU4pqS6HZqYXBg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT  

largeeyes@aol.com wrote:

This is a strange move by Sony.  I really don't understand why they would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz.  They obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are going for the big N.  This really doesn't make a lot of sense for Sony.  Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying $50 per game...
 

Jeremy

Ummm...  $39.99 is Sony's first party suggest retail price.  Third parties can continue to do what they want.  Square games have always been on the higher range of games and Capcom certainly felt it was good for them to release RE for $39.99

Considering Sony has few first party properties, I don't see this as anything substantial than a PR thing.   Will Nintendo respond to it?  They can, and they may.  But games like Zelda can sell for $60 and people will still buy it, as was with many N64 titles.  Nintendo is in no great rush to match Sony's phantom pricing, as I doubt many of Sony's third parties will be willing to go along with it.  They'll do their own pricing.

Dexter - --Boundary_(ID_9CfRLlyncU4pqS6HZqYXBg)-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:33:17 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL >From: Poppa Poor >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] PRICE DROP OFFICIAL >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:15:15 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- Michael wrote: > > PRICE DROP OFFICIAL - 20 May > > > > says Peter MacDougall, > > executive vice president, > > sales and marketing, Nintendo of America Inc. "We > > were the first > > manufacturer to reach the $199 price level and now > > we're leading the > > industry to $149 > >Excuse me, Nintendo? ::cough:: SEGA Dreamcast ::cough:: > >===== >** Dave ** > I think he means of the three that are manufacturing now. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:36:30 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games >From: Vi On >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: n64 >Subject: [NG] $40 retail price for games >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:18:51 -0400 (EDT) > > >Well, it's a dream come true for many. ps2 games are now officially >$39.99 instead of $49.99 > >http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html > >or click here if the above is locked >http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=APOmDoBSJU29ueSBD > >-Vi > And I'm sure at E3 Nintendo will finally announce some Players Choice games. Let the mayhem begin. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:38:15 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games The PS2 is in the middle of dying, just like the Dreamcast when its games went to $40 each. ;-) - -Satoshi >From: LARGEEYES@aol.com >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:41:40 EDT > >This is a strange move by Sony. I really don't understand why they would >do >this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz. They obviously >can't >financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are going for the big N. >This really doesn't make a lot of sense for Sony. Almost everyone has been >trained and is used to paying $50 per game... > > >Jeremy > > > > Well, it's a dream come true for many. ps2 games are now officially > > $39.99 instead of $49.99 > > > > http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html > > > > or click here if the above is locked > > http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht& > > s=APOmDoBSJU29ueSBD > > > > -Vi > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:50:22 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C20069.DE693C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, it's going to put more of a squeeze on Microsoft than = Nintendo. Sony and Nintendo are breaking even on their hardware sales, = maybe even making a small profit. However, Microsoft is losing money. = They were losing money when the XBOX was $299 and well, now it's even = worse. With Sony putting the squeeze on software prices, the only area = where Microsoft could possibly profit, it's going to be a rough ride for = Microsoft. I'm all for competition, but man... it's getting brutal. Geoff Taylor ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LARGEEYES@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail price for games This is a strange move by Sony. I really don't understand why they = would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo out of the biz. They = obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, so maybe they are = going for the big N. This really doesn't make a lot of sense for Sony. = Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying $50 per game... Jeremy Well, it's a dream come true for many. ps2 games are now officially $39.99 instead of $49.99 http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html or click here if the above is locked = http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=3Dmarketsquote99_news.ht&s=3DAPOm= DoBSJU29ueSBD -Vi - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C20069.DE693C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually, it's going to put more of a squeeze on = Microsoft=20 than Nintendo.  Sony and Nintendo are breaking even on their = hardware=20 sales, maybe even making a small profit.  However, Microsoft is = losing=20 money.  They were losing money when the XBOX was $299 and well, now = it's=20 even worse.  With Sony putting the squeeze on software prices, the=20 only area where Microsoft could possibly profit, it's going to be a = rough=20 ride for Microsoft.  I'm all for competition, but man... it's = getting=20 brutal.
 
Geoff Taylor
 
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From:=20 LARGEEYES@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:41 = PM
Subject: Re: [NG] $40 retail = price for=20 games

This is a strange move by Sony.  I really = don't=20 understand why they would do this, other than trying to run Nintendo = out of=20 the biz.  They obviously can't financially starve Microsoft out, = so maybe=20 they are going for the big N.  This really doesn't make a lot of = sense=20 for Sony.  Almost everyone has been trained and is used to paying = $50 per=20 game...


Jeremy


Well, it's a dream come true for many.  ps2 games are now=20 officially
$39.99 instead of=20 = $49.99

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/360/360099p1.html

or = click=20 here if the above is=20 = locked
http://search.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=3Dmarketsquote99_news.h= t&s=3DAPOmDoBSJU29ueSBD

-Vi
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