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n64-digest         Saturday, February 14 1998         Volume 01 : Number 189



Re: [N64] Favorite games, also Magazines
[N64] What are your opinions/reviews for Forsaken?
Re: [N64] Cart size
Re: [N64] What are your opinions/reviews for Forsaken?
[N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?
[N64] Zelda 64
Re: [N64] Cart size
Re: [N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?
[N64] The final statement regarding cart size
[N64] Is Rare developing a Tekken clone????
Re: [N64] Is Rare developing a Tekken clone????
Re: [N64] Cart size
RE: [N64] Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:50:19 +-100
Re: [N64] Cart size
[N64] Quake 64
Re: [N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?
[N64] Win $150.00 in Nintendo games, or a Nintendo 64!!!!
[N64] 64DD save N64 please......
[N64] Multiple addresses

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:23:13 PST
From: "E. Jefferson" <eljam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Favorite games, also Magazines

>That is just wrong...  if they wanted magazine sales, they would have
>printed "Everything is perfectly fine!!!" articles about N64, given all 
N64
>games 4 stars and above, and done the same for PSX and Saturn.  Most
>likely, they LOST magazine sales for printing what other magazines 
feared
>to print.
>
>-Tyler V Snow
>tvsnow@usa.net

True, but controversy sells.  Although they have a valid point, don't 
you think some peolpe would buy the magazine just to see what NG's 
argument was ?  But more to the point, Did this headline cause more 
copies of this edition to be sold that previous ones ?  I don't know or 
don't care. 

It's not worth rehasing this NG - Nintendo bashing topic so I'm through 
Tyler ( unless you wan to define 'quality" again :) haha )

Watch, someone will just have to respond to this....

Elliot 
eljam@hotmail.com

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 17:37 EST
From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] What are your opinions/reviews for Forsaken?

Comrades,

I have seen a 'Coming Soon' sign for the game
Fosaken by Acclaim. Does anyone know if this
game is any good? Is it available on the
PC or PSX?

Thanks

Kevin

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:40:13 EST
From: Dash91284@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Cart size

I think that you should have to write an essay before you are allowed on the
list that proves you can write, and actually give truthful information. =^)

~Dash

<<zelda is going to be 64 megaBYTES. yes bytes not bits
it is the biggest cart so far chances are it will be the only cart that
size
unless nintendo is involved>>


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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:55:29 +0000
From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] What are your opinions/reviews for Forsaken?

> Date:          Fri, 13 Feb 98 17:37 EST
> From:          kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
> To:            n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject:       [N64] What are your opinions/reviews for Forsaken?
> Cc:            kmapp@csc.com
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> Comrades,
> 
> I have seen a 'Coming Soon' sign for the game
> Fosaken by Acclaim. Does anyone know if this
> game is any good? Is it available on the
> PC or PSX?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kevin
> 
    
   It looks pretty good. It's supposed to be sorta like Descent except 
with a lot better graphics. It will also have a four player
mode. I think it's coming out in March. And yeah it is gonna
come out for the PC and PS, too.. Later.

                               Zig

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 17:55 EST
From: kmapp@csc.com (Kevin Mapp)
Subject: [N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?

Comrades,

Often it seems as though many posters are hell
bent on completing an N64 game as soon ASAP.
To those of you, that fall into this category,
I was wondering if you regret having 'beaten'
the game so soon. Currently, it seems as though
many of the posters are waiting for another game
to come out because they've beaten all the ones
that they have. If your games don't have replay
value, isn't your N64 useless until the other games
come out?

I have about a dozen games and have not beat 1 of
them! Not because I'm 'scrub', but because I have
other more important things to do and I'm not 'hell
bent' on completing them. I also only play one game
for a couple of days and then switch. Ergo, I have a
dozen games that still offer me new thrills and chills.
Where as someone who has beaten all there games would
be bored with their N64 because their waiting for
something new. Understand where I'm coming from?

So, after that long soliloguy I'll re-ask my question:

Do those of you who have tried to beat all their games
in as little time as possible regret it, because now
theres nothing to play, until the future'?

Holla if ya hear me!

Kevin

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:50:52 -0700
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <SWARTGA@THIOKOL.COM>
Subject: [N64] Zelda 64

From: mike.meyer@tznet.com

 > I know it will be good, it's always been a great game and as everyone has 
 > said they have had years to work on it, I just hope it's really good, 
 > because lately i've not been to satisfied with the games that have come out
 > for the N64, GE007 and Star Wars are basically the only titles I've liked, 
 > and I hope Zelda64 is the launching pad for great games ;)

I hope that Zelda 64 is not only a GOOD (read unbelievably great) game, but
also a DECENT SIZED game (gameplay-wise, megabytes has nothing to do with it) 
The Legend of Zelda was a breakthrough because of the catchy music (even by
today's standards) exceptional graphics (back in 1988), and a very long,
challenging game (unlike 95% of today's games on the N64 and PSX, Saturn, etc.)
 LOZ took me four months to beat (I was only six years old at the time). 
Considering that six-year-olds have an attention span of about |----| this
much, and that I didn't ever get bored of it, this is a great feat.  I beat
Star Fox 64 in one day... four days on the hardest route, 9 days to get to
EVERY level, shortly afterwards to get all of the medals.  I got bored with the
game after 9 days.

Back to Zelda 64.... if Nintendo can manage to cut out some of the glitz and
put in more gameplay, I would be ecstatic.  I was dismayed when I found out how
short Mario 64 really was, despite the "huge" 64 megabits.  Starfox was, of
course, even shorter.  ISS64: only six stadiums, a normal number of teams, and
many animations... did Konami really need a N64 to make that possible?  It
seems more like an anti-aliased polygon SNES game.  I realise that 64-bit
graphics require more game space to store, but maybe it's time to cut back.  In
short, I want to be able to play Zelda 64 for at least one month, and more WHEN
(not if) Zelda 64DD comes out.

Mag7Mike

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:08:45 -0500
From: Derek Kalweit <dkalweit@eznet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Cart size

>I think that you should have to write an essay before you are allowed on the
>list that proves you can write, and actually give truthful information. =^)

I agree. Saying why you want to be on the list, and why Greg/Tyler should
allow you on there-- maybe then it would actually be treated as the
privilege like it is, instead of a "right", as these kiddies think it is.

 Derek Kalweit                                                            
 Email: dkalweit@eznet.net                                  
 Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/                 
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:10:28 -0500
From: Derek Kalweit <dkalweit@eznet.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?

>I have about a dozen games and have not beat 1 of
>them! Not because I'm 'scrub', but because I have
>other more important things to do and I'm not 'hell
>bent' on completing them. I also only play one game
>for a couple of days and then switch. Ergo, I have a
>dozen games that still offer me new thrills and chills.
>Where as someone who has beaten all there games would
>be bored with their N64 because their waiting for
>something new. Understand where I'm coming from?

That's how I've felt, too. <G> I have about 8 N64 games, and I've only
completely Starfox 64. :) And of course a couple tracks on MK64. <G>


>Do those of you who have tried to beat all their games
>in as little time as possible regret it, because now
>theres nothing to play, until the future'?

Speaking as for PC games, which I have done such a thing for, YES! I regret
it very much.

 Derek Kalweit                                                            
 Email: dkalweit@eznet.net                                  
 Home Page: http://www.home.eznet.net/~dkalweit/                 
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:22:15 -0500
From: "Brian Sinclair" <brian.sinclair@erols.com>
Subject: [N64] The final statement regarding cart size

A few days ago I wrote an email to the group stating that the max cart size
for the N64 is 32 megs.  I recalled seeing that number in Next Generation
about a year ago and found confirmation on their website as to that fact.
However, in my quest for the absolute truth I contacted "Ask Dan" at
nintendo.com who replied with the following email message this morning:
_______________________________________________________________

"There is no real theoretical maximum cart size. You can make carts as big
as you want, limited only by the cost and size of the chips. With chip cost
going down, and larger and larger chips available, we will continue to see
larger cartridges. Now at any given point in time there may be a limit to
the cart size available, that doens't mean that larger carts won't be
available in the future."

DANO
s At 09:59 PM 2/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
_______________________________________________________________

The following is the question that I asked him the day before:

"I am part of a N64 mailing list that I receive via e-mail each day.
Recently one of the people on the list said that he couldn't wait for the
first 64 meg game after Zelda is launched at 32 megs. Now, I read about a
year ago that the N64 couldn't handle carts larger than 32 megs. I went on
to explain to this person that while the cart size could not grow larger
than 32 megs, the games would nonetheless get bigger because the compression
techniques that game developers use would continue to grow in
sophistication. Can you resolve the max cart size issue once and for all?
What is the max cart size, if there is one, that the N64 can handle.
Thanks in advance for the help."

Brian Sinclair

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:21:04 -0500
From: "Brian Sinclair" <brian.sinclair@erols.com>
Subject: [N64] Is Rare developing a Tekken clone????

According to IGN64.com, Rare is currently working a N64 Tekken-style clone.
If this rumor is true (and it is only a rumor), this would be awesome for
the N64.  Few companies are as talented as Rare and they could put the N64
on the map with an outstanding fighting game.  According to the report the
game may be shown at E3 in May.  Let's keep those fingers crossed.

B. Sinclair

"Talk about game delays, I'm still waiting for the 64-bit version of Pong"


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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:44:48 +0000
From: zimmfam@redrose.net
Subject: Re: [N64] Is Rare developing a Tekken clone????

> From:          "Brian Sinclair" <brian.sinclair@erols.com>
> To:            <n64@lists.xmission.com>
> Subject:       [N64] Is Rare developing a Tekken clone????
> Date:          Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:21:04 -0500
> Reply-to:      n64@lists.xmission.com

> According to IGN64.com, Rare is currently working a N64 Tekken-style clone.
> If this rumor is true (and it is only a rumor), this would be awesome for
> the N64.  Few companies are as talented as Rare and they could put the N64
> on the map with an outstanding fighting game.  According to the report the
> game may be shown at E3 in May.  Let's keep those fingers crossed.
> 
> B. Sinclair
> 
> "Talk about game delays, I'm still waiting for the 64-bit version of Pong"
> 
> 
  I think that there's a good chance that it's true because
I remember reading on N64HQ sometime awhile ago that 
Nintendo was working on a fighting game, but ya never 
know. I hope they do! Later. 

                          Zig

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:01:57 -0500
From: s_truth@juno.com (Stuart R Norton)
Subject: Re: [N64] Cart size

Please forgive me all mighty j@ck@ss.
I got some bad info.
I had not yet confirmed it.
Thank you

Stuart Norton
s_truth@juno.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:38:36 +-100
From: Grzegorz Kosno <sweden@polbox.com>
Subject: RE: [N64] Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:50:19 +-100

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:02:59 EST
From: Dash91284@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Cart size

Your forgiven you (add imprecate here).

<<Please forgive me all mighty j@ck@ss.
I got some bad info.
I had not yet confirmed it.
Thank you
 
Stuart Norton
s_truth@juno.com>>

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:40:16 -0800
From: Sam <sam.wray@netcomuk.co.uk>
Subject: [N64] Quake 64

I have PC (not GL) Quake.  Should I get Quake 64 because of Deathmatch or 
is GOLDENEYE'S DM betteR?
- -- 
Sam
Nurgatomic Dustbin
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 19:20:43 +0100
From: kleinemans <kleinemans@cyberdude.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Do you regret beating your games in record time?

>If your games don't have replay
>value, isn't your N64 useless until the other games
>come out?

Yes it is.


>I have about a dozen games and have not beat 1 of
>them! Not because I'm 'scrub', but because I have
>other more important things to do and I'm not 'hell
>bent' on completing them. I also only play one game
>for a couple of days and then switch. Ergo, I have a
>dozen games that still offer me new thrills and chills.
>Where as someone who has beaten all there games would
>be bored with their N64 because their waiting for
>something new. Understand where I'm coming from?

No, not at all... I don't get how you possibly can play a game without
finishing it. I mean, when I'd try not to finish a game that would mean
playing level one over and over again.. I mean, how can you POSSIBLY play
mario 64 without finishing it while you do like to play games?
People don't play to finish games, they play to play them. In the good ol'
days this wasn't a problem, but somehow games are just to easy. There are
two ways of me having 12 N64 games without finishing any of them. Or I have
never played them longer then 30 minutes, or I have bought them all today.
What do you do when you have got your 70th mario star?? Just quit playing??
HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU STOP PLAYING THAT MARVELOUS GAME!!! When I finish
something in less then a week, do you think it's my fault?? No, it's not.
It took me over a year to finish all the mario world levels, yet it took me
a week to finish mario 64. Get what's the problem now?


>Do those of you who have tried to beat all their games
>in as little time as possible regret it, because now
>theres nothing to play, until the future'?

People don't try it ASAP, they just play, and when they have gotten to the
next level, they wil enter it, not start from the beging again...
Oh, and if you've got better things to do, why do you have 12 games anyway???

kleinemans




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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:50:12 -0800
From: jesses@jeffnet.org (WORLD-OF-NINTENDO.COM)
Subject: [N64] Win $150.00 in Nintendo games, or a Nintendo 64!!!!

Check out  http://www.world-of-nintendo.com/nintendo/win/win.html
They are having a contest where you could win $150.00 in Nintendo
games, or a Nintendo 64!!!!!!



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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:42:41 -0000
From: "Josh Cartwright" <cybermax@reno.quik.com>
Subject: [N64] 64DD save N64 please......

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Dear fellow N64 mailing list readers,




I have stuck with N64 eversince the first day it was released but now =
after all this time the hype about my N64 is starting to wear down. I =
have seen many reviews for games lately and all of them have been bad. =
Olympic Hockey (5 out of 10) Nagano winter olyimpics(4.5 out of 10) =
Areogauge 6 out of 10
JEOPARDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why the hell was this ever even released =
if it was so bad let alone released at all !!!!! 3 out of 10............ =
Horrible games no question about it. And a couple of the others have =
only been " OK " titles. Nintendo couldnt even manage to make one of =
their own games that they've been working on forever Yoshi's Story a =
good game. And i find myself playing old  worn out games from last year =
some of the GREAT games that N64 has. What do we have to look forward to =
in the future? Hmmmmmm...... Banjo Kazootie, Dracula 3D, Zelda 64, and =
maby a few others that really stand out as games that we know will be =
some of the best games ever made and will be remembered forever. But =
other thatn that what do we have? Not much at all. And that could just =
about make me cry ( serious ) I am begining to beleive that Nintendo is =
finished if they dont try a lot harder to get new game companies to make =
games for then ( GOOD GAME COMPANIES! ) When I look at the 64DD I used =
to think that it would revolutionize what was allready a great thing the =
 Nintendo 64 I mean dont get me wrong the N64 is a damm powerful peice =
of hardware but the games that are played on it are the determining =
factor. But now I look at hte 64DD as the last chance Nintendo has =
either they revolutionize gamming and have lots of good developers and =
companies working for them, numerous AAA titles at the launch and things =
that really make them  stand out as being the ones who made games better =
for everyone, or I really do think even though i dont want to beleive it =
that Nintendo has failed... The 64DD has to " Save" Nintendo. And they =
have to release only AAA titles and not let terrible game like weve been =
seeing lately slip through. and so I end with this  please Nintendo do =
the right thing revolutionize the gamming industry, and only release =
great games. Because everyone out the knows you can do it " you have to =
do it" it the last hope. Please share your thoughts on this and answer =
my questions, tell what you think is happenings and what needs to happen =
etc. I would be greatly appreciative.
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                                               Reno Nevada

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have stuck with N64 eversince the =
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wear down. I have seen many reviews for games lately and all of them =
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bad. <U>Olympic Hockey </U>(5 out of 10) <U>Nagano winter =
olyimpics</U>(4.5 out=20
of 10) <U>Areogauge </U>6 out of 10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>JEOPARDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why =
the hell was=20
this ever even released if it was so bad let alone released at all !!!!! =
3 out=20
of 10............ Horrible games no question about it. And a couple of =
the=20
others have only been &quot; OK &quot; titles. Nintendo couldnt even =
manage to=20
make one of their own games that they've been working on forever Yoshi's =
Story a=20
good game. And i find myself playing old&nbsp; worn out games from last =
year=20
some of the GREAT games that N64 has. What do we have to look forward to =
in the=20
future? Hmmmmmm...... Banjo Kazootie, Dracula 3D, Zelda 64, and maby a =
few=20
others that really stand out as games that we know will be some of the =
best=20
games ever made and will be remembered forever. But other thatn that =
what do we=20
have? Not much at all. And that could just about make me cry ( serious ) =
I am=20
begining to beleive that Nintendo is finished if they dont try a lot =
harder to=20
get new game companies to make games for then ( GOOD GAME COMPANIES! ) =
When I=20
look at the 64DD I used to think that it would revolutionize what was =
allready a=20
great thing the&nbsp; Nintendo 64 I mean dont get me wrong the N64 is a =
damm=20
powerful peice of hardware but the games that are played on it are the=20
determining factor. But now I look at hte 64DD as the last chance =
Nintendo has=20
either they revolutionize gamming and have lots of good developers and =
companies=20
working for them, numerous AAA titles at the launch and things that =
really make=20
them&nbsp; stand out as being the ones who made games better for =
everyone, or I=20
really do think even though i dont want to beleive it that Nintendo has=20
failed... The 64DD has to &quot; Save&quot; Nintendo. And they have to =
release=20
only AAA titles and not let terrible game like weve been seeing lately =
slip=20
through. and so I end with this&nbsp; please Nintendo do the right thing =

revolutionize the gamming industry, and only release great games. =
Because=20
everyone out the knows you can do it &quot; you have to do it&quot; it =
the last=20
hope. Please share your thoughts on this and answer my questions, tell =
what you=20
think is happenings and what needs to happen etc. I would be greatly=20
appreciative.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:45:38 -0700
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [N64] Multiple addresses

I have added a new capability for the list.  Now, in addition to
receiving the list at your main email address, you can request
additional addresses to be designated as post-only.  That way you
will continue to receive only one mailing per message but you
could post from any of your listed email addresses.

Unfortunately, this capability isn't automatic, so anyone wishing
to take advantage of this feature will need to mail me privately
(gregorys@xmission.com) with your additional email addresses.

Greg

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