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n64-digest          Friday, December 4 1998          Volume 01 : Number 613



Re: [N64] I HATE some FIGHTERS.
Re: [N64] Video Game History
Re: [N64] Zelda progress
Re: [N64] Zelda: Zora's Domain
[N64] Ice Cavern.
[N64] After the Fire Temple.
Re: [N64] Ice Cavern.
Re: [N64] After the Fire Temple.
[N64] Zelda Deaths.
[N64] Zelda: The Enemies
Re: [N64] Zelda Deaths.
Re: [N64] Zelda: The Enemies
Re: [N64] Zelda: The Enemies
[N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)
Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)
Re: [N64] I HATE some FIGHTERS.
Re: [N64] I HATE FIGHTERS. (Hey, me too.)
Re: [N64] LENS OF TRUTH...
Re: [N64] Zelda progress
Re: [N64] LENS OF TRUTH... (Ambience)
[N64] What is Zelda?
Re: [N64] After the Fire Temple.
Re: [N64] Zelda Deaths.
Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)
Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)
[N64] Zelda Water Dungeon-Child Link
Re: [N64] Zelda Water Dungeon-Child Link
Re: [N64] Zelda - 2 EZ questions for you guys/gals.

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:37:19 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] I HATE some FIGHTERS.

You don't like Tekken, Trey? If you say you don't like Capcom fighters, I'll
have to beta you with my Megaton Hammer... ;-)

~Matt

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:38:26 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Video Game History

D'oh! Forgot about that. While I'm not positive, I bet it was, as was Lunar
Landing (although that I highly doubt).

~Matt

<<Wasn't Hunt the Wumpus for the TI-99 4A? 

Trey>>

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 20:31:09 -0600
From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda progress

I have pretty much everything, except Nayru's Love and the mask of truth.
That's about it. I have the GOLDEN GLOVES, hehe, cool.17 heart containers
and I am currently fighting Ganon.

I won't spoil it for people who aren't there, but Ganondorf's castle is the
easiest level in the game (no joke) and Ganondorf is pretty easy too, just
takes a while to get his pattern down. Ganon though is pretty cool, I
haven't beat him yet.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty fun game (so far). I think the levels
could have been a bit more challenging (like link to the past). and there
could have been a few more temples (in link to the past, there was 10, here
only 6.

		Stone Cold Spencer

><< > <<Speaking of Zelda... Where are you all in the game???  I am almost
done
> > the spirit temple and maaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn do I love this game.  Way to
> > go Nintendo, you have made my dreams come true.>> >>
>
>	Hmmm, this may be kind of long.
>	I have collected every weapon in the game, except for the Ice and Light
>Arrows.  I have all of the upgrades for the weapons, that you can get
upgrades
>for, except the bow; I can only hold 40 arrows, but I know where I can get a
>better quiver.
>	I have all 3 Magic Spells.  I have 3 bottles, and am working on getting the
>last one.  I have the Gerudo Membership Card and can go into the desert.  I
>have Epona.  I have every Song.  I have 16 heart containers (BTW...how in the
>world do you get that heart container on top of the volcano cone in Death
>Mountain Crater?)  I have the Gold Scale, the Hover Boots, the Iron Boots,
the
>Goron Tunic, the Zora Tunic, and the Goron's Sword.  I have 6 of 7
medallions.
>I have th Stone of Agony, the Mask of Truth, and Biggoron's Certificate.  I
>have killed 52 Skulltulla (BTW...after the 50th Skulltula, I really don't
>think it is worth getting the other 50, cause that's how many it takes to
>break the curse on the Dad, and he only gives you a Huge Rupee).  I haven't
>started the Spirit Temple yet, but that's what I'll be doing next.  That's
all
>I can remember right now...
>
>--David
>
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 20:32:15 -0600
From: Spencer <10039073@wsd1.org>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda: Zora's Domain

I bet it will unfreeze at the end credits, like in link to the past, it
says what everyone does after you beat Ganon.

		Stone Cold Spencer

>	After you defeat the Water Temple, Shiek tells you that Zora's Domain will
>return to normal after a while. Well...I've defeated every Temple but the
>Spirit Temple since then, and it's still frozen.  Is there anything special
>you must do to unfreeze it?
>
>--David
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:42:29 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Ice Cavern.

Thanks, David, but I beat the Fire Temple now. I'll use Farore's Wind next
time. Anyhoo, is the Ice Cavern a temple? I hear it was just a small little
dungeon like the one you get the Lens of Truth in. Also, where do I get the
Blue Fire? I've had to but it from that lady in Kakariko Village for 300 big
ones (%&$#@*%)!!!

~Matt

<<	I worried about that too, but I made it around on my first try.  I don't
know
if the Hookshot is long enough to reach that one, but chests can be used as
anchors for it.
	Here's a suggestion.  Once you have Farore's Wind, cast it in a room that is
difficult to over come.  That way, if you slip and fall, or end up somewhere
else, you can immediately go back.  Also, if you save inside of a Dungeon, you
can use Farore's Wind to start where you left off.

- --David>>

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:44:41 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] After the Fire Temple.

After the Fire Temple, should I go to the Water Temple or the Ice Cavern next?
I have the Zora Tunic...

~Matt

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:51:27 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Ice Cavern.

In a message dated 12/4/98 6:44:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< Thanks, David, but I beat the Fire Temple now. I'll use Farore's Wind next
 time. Anyhoo, is the Ice Cavern a temple? I hear it was just a small little
 dungeon like the one you get the Lens of Truth in. Also, where do I get the
 Blue Fire? I've had to but it from that lady in Kakariko Village for 300 big
 ones (%&$#@*%)!!!
 
 ~Matt
 
 <<	I worried about that too, but I made it around on my first try.  I don't
 know
 if the Hookshot is long enough to reach that one, but chests can be used as
 anchors for it.
 	Here's a suggestion.  Once you have Farore's Wind, cast it in a room that is
 difficult to over come.  That way, if you slip and fall, or end up somewhere
 else, you can immediately go back.  Also, if you save inside of a Dungeon,
you
 can use Farore's Wind to start where you left off.
 
 --David>> >>


	The Ice Cavern is like a Mini Dungeon.  It has a Dungeon Map and Compass and
eveything, but it's pretty small and the boss is very easy to defeat..
However, you do get an essecntial item from it.  I won't say what, but they go
CLANK! CLANK! CLANK! when you walk.  Also, you can bottle Blue Fire in the Ice
Cavern for free.
	Here's a tip, once you defeat the Ice Cavern explore all around Zora's
Fountain and you may find something nice!

- --David

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:52:04 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] After the Fire Temple.

In a message dated 12/4/98 6:46:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< After the Fire Temple, should I go to the Water Temple or the Ice Cavern
next?
 I have the Zora Tunic...
 
 ~Matt >>

	You HAVE to go to the Ice Cavern next.  There is an item inside that you must
aquire to complete the Water Temple.

- --David

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:52:22 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda Deaths.

How many times have you guys died in Zelda? As of tonight, just finishing the
Fire Temple, I've only died once.

~Matt

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:58:08 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: [N64] Zelda: The Enemies

	I'm quite a ways through Zelda right now and have been having fun, not only
destroying the enemies, but looking at them.
	So far the most awsome enemy I've encountered (in any game) has been Dark
Link.  I loved the that room, and that you had to defeat an enemy by thinking
a little and not just wailing away on it (although I had the Goron's Sword at
that time, so I made short work of him).
	The scariest enemy I've run into so far has got to Dead Hands.  That thing,
although not difficult to beat, is just down right spooky.  I'm glad I didn't
have the lights turned down when battling Dead Hands, because I currently
don't have any Depends (though that may be a bit exaggerated).  I was glad
when I killed it.
	The Deku Scrubs are cool too.  One minute they're pummeling you with Deku
Nuts, the next they're trying to rip you off by selling you extremely
overpriced items. =)

- --David

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:59:07 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Deaths.

In a message dated 12/4/98 6:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< How many times have you guys died in Zelda? As of tonight, just finishing
the
 Fire Temple, I've only died once.
 
 ~Matt
  >>

	I don't think I've exceeded 10 deaths, and out of those 10 I've only had a
Game Over about 3 times.  I usually carry at least 1 Fairy with me.

- --David

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:02:14 EST
From: Bastion007@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda: The Enemies

Dead Hands? I crapped myself when I first heard the ReDead moaning and stuff.
I went up like a moron and started to hack away, and boom-they sucked my life
bar clean.

~Matt

<<	The scariest enemy I've run into so far has got to Dead Hands.  That thing,
although not difficult to beat, is just down right spooky.  I'm glad I didn't
have the lights turned down when battling Dead Hands, because I currently
don't have any Depends (though that may be a bit exaggerated).  I was glad
when I killed it.

- --David>>

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:07:03 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda: The Enemies

In a message dated 12/4/98 7:04:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bastion007@aol.com writes:

<< Dead Hands? I crapped myself when I first heard the ReDead moaning and
stuff.
 I went up like a moron and started to hack away, and boom-they sucked my life
 bar clean.
 
 ~Matt >>
	
Heh heh.  Yeah, that moaning is just a little bit too eery.
	If you tap you buttons and rapidly move the control stick you can shake them
free.  The best way to kill those things is to use the Sun Song to freeze
them.  I think Deku Nuts work too, but I've never tried them.

- --David

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:13:35 -0600
From: "dvader" <dvader@intop.net>
Subject: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)

It takes a special game to actually draw you in enough to scare you.  There
are several that do it really well.  Zelda is the best example on N64.  PSX
has several:  Resident Evil 1 & 2 are the best examples.  A game that almost
made me pee my pants was Unreal.  It was just amazing.

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>You have to walk through walls and look at the map... Its pretty hard
>because there are stupid holes in the ground and I ALWAYS fell into the
>basement.  Oh yeah, isnt this place freeky at night with the lights down
>low and the sound way up??!!  Thats what I love about this game, it is
>the only game I have ever played that actually can get me scared.
>
>DrDweezle wrote:




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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:22:33 EST
From: Davidxvx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)

In a message dated 12/4/98 7:20:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, dvader@intop.net
writes:

<< It takes a special game to actually draw you in enough to scare you.  There
 are several that do it really well.  Zelda is the best example on N64.  PSX
 has several:  Resident Evil 1 & 2 are the best examples.  A game that almost
 made me pee my pants was Unreal.  It was just amazing.
 
 dvader@intop.net
 http://members.xoom.com/limpb >>

	One of the things I don't like about 1st person games is that you never know
what's behind you.  I really hate that feeling.  Probably one of the reasons I
don't like playing them very much.

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:46:04 EST
From: TreyTable@aol.com
Subject: Re: [N64] I HATE some FIGHTERS.

In a message dated 98-12-04 21:38:35 EST, you write:

> You don't like Tekken, Trey? If you say you don't like Capcom fighters, I'll
>  have to beta you with my Megaton Hammer... ;-)
>  
>  ~Matt

Don't worry about that. I like just about all Capcom fighters, except the VS.
games; they're ok but it's not as good as the others. (SF2, SF3, SFEX+A, Star
Gladiator) I also like a bunch of the Sega fighters like Virtua Fighter 1-3,
Virtua On, hell, if it has Virtua in the title I'm sure to like it. And of
course Fighting Vipers & Fighters Megamix. Then of course there are some other
good Namco fighters like Soul Blade & Soul Calibur. Just no Tekken & Mortal
Kombat for me, thanks.

Trey

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:03:57 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] I HATE FIGHTERS. (Hey, me too.)

I third the motion... Mortal Kombat was ok the first time it came out
but its old now... I dont care how many new features/characters/options
you put in.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/4/98 2:22:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes:
> 
> << Booooooo Mortal Kombat.
>   >>
> 
>          I second this motion.
> 
> --David
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 00:00:12 -0500
From: Cho <tocher@portjeff.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] LENS OF TRUTH...

Almost the same with me, with a few exceptions.
Alone in the Dark for the PC.  That was very very scary.
Of course I always get scared in the ghost level of Mario or even the
SNES mario, but as for immersion... Alone in the Dark just had me.  Oh,
and Resident Evil.

D Fentie wrote:
> 
> You have to walk through walls and look at the map... Its pretty hard
> because there are stupid holes in the ground and I ALWAYS fell into the
> basement.  Oh yeah, isnt this place freeky at night with the lights down
> low and the sound way up??!!  Thats what I love about this game, it is
> the only game I have ever played that actually can get me scared.
> 
> DrDweezle wrote:
> >
> >     I have drained the well as young Link,  gone down it,  and NO lens.
> > Am I doing this right?  Could someone help me?  Thanks!
> >
> > DR
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:06:33 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda progress

To get that one on the crater... go to the fire temple as a kid and
plant magic beans.  Have you tried to hit the dad skulttula?  That is
funny...

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/4/98 3:53:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, d.fentie@home.com
> writes:
> 
> << > <<Speaking of Zelda... Where are you all in the game???  I am almost done
>  > the spirit temple and maaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn do I love this game.  Way to
>  > go Nintendo, you have made my dreams come true.>> >>
> 
>         Hmmm, this may be kind of long.
>         I have collected every weapon in the game, except for the Ice and Light
> Arrows.  I have all of the upgrades for the weapons, that you can get upgrades
> for, except the bow; I can only hold 40 arrows, but I know where I can get a
> better quiver.
>         I have all 3 Magic Spells.  I have 3 bottles, and am working on getting the
> last one.  I have the Gerudo Membership Card and can go into the desert.  I
> have Epona.  I have every Song.  I have 16 heart containers (BTW...how in the
> world do you get that heart container on top of the volcano cone in Death
> Mountain Crater?)  I have the Gold Scale, the Hover Boots, the Iron Boots, the
> Goron Tunic, the Zora Tunic, and the Goron's Sword.  I have 6 of 7 medallions.
> I have th Stone of Agony, the Mask of Truth, and Biggoron's Certificate.  I
> have killed 52 Skulltulla (BTW...after the 50th Skulltula, I really don't
> think it is worth getting the other 50, cause that's how many it takes to
> break the curse on the Dad, and he only gives you a Huge Rupee).  I haven't
> started the Spirit Temple yet, but that's what I'll be doing next.  That's all
> I can remember right now...
> 
> --David
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 00:03:08 -0500
From: Cho <tocher@portjeff.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] LENS OF TRUTH... (Ambience)

Quake 2 and Unreal definately, unbelievably eerie at times.  I never
advanced far in Unreal, so I have little to say there, but Quake 2
definately.  If you havent yet tried it, take a look at Half Life.  This
is the number one game for the PC.  Perhaps most people here are not PC
gamers, perhaps you are but I like Half Life better than Zelda.

Eddy Wu wrote:
> 
> >Oh yeah, isnt this place freeky at night with the lights down
> >low and the sound way up??!!  Thats what I love about this game, it is
> >the only game I have ever played that actually can get me scared.
> 
> Try Quake 2 (PC) or Unreal at night with a good set of speakers (w/
> subwoofer) and the lights turned off. OR better yet, try alone in the dark 3
> (I know it's kind of old).  Turok II is supposed to be pretty ambient too,
> when it comes out.
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:08:25 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: [N64] What is Zelda?

Is Zelda an action game, a puzzle game, an RPG or all 3?  My friend says
that there are way too many puzzles and not enough fighting but I think
that there are less things to fight but there are more quality battles. 
What do you guys think?

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:08:55 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] After the Fire Temple.

Go to the Ice Cavern to get the iron boots or you cant go to the water
temple...

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> After the Fire Temple, should I go to the Water Temple or the Ice Cavern next?
> I have the Zora Tunic...
> 
> ~Matt
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:09:45 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Deaths.

I've died eight times and I am just about done the spirit temple (I say
if you have only died once you aren't taking enough chances...)

Bastion007@aol.com wrote:
> 
> How many times have you guys died in Zelda? As of tonight, just finishing the
> Fire Temple, I've only died once.
> 
> ~Matt
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:11:18 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)

Yeah, but if you have a bunch of friends over watching, it isnt that
scary and its actually a great deal of fun.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/4/98 7:20:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, dvader@intop.net
> writes:
> 
> << It takes a special game to actually draw you in enough to scare you.  There
>  are several that do it really well.  Zelda is the best example on N64.  PSX
>  has several:  Resident Evil 1 & 2 are the best examples.  A game that almost
>  made me pee my pants was Unreal.  It was just amazing.
> 
>  dvader@intop.net
>  http://members.xoom.com/limpb >>
> 
>         One of the things I don't like about 1st person games is that you never know
> what's behind you.  I really hate that feeling.  Probably one of the reasons I
> don't like playing them very much.
> 
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 00:07:50 -0500
From: Cho <tocher@portjeff.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Scared (was LENS OF TRUTH...)

If you really want to play an FPS, you need to use the mouse.   You
could do a 360 in a fourth of a second or so if you put the mouse speed
up to that.  With me, my mouse ball continues moving if I lift up my
mouse, so I can fling it as I jump lets say and I know just how to do a
180 or whatever in the air.  You can get drawn into it, but consoles are
not the best platform for an FPS, and for control, it needs to be the
mouse.

Davidxvx@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/4/98 7:20:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, dvader@intop.net
> writes:
> 
> << It takes a special game to actually draw you in enough to scare you.  There
>  are several that do it really well.  Zelda is the best example on N64.  PSX
>  has several:  Resident Evil 1 & 2 are the best examples.  A game that almost
>  made me pee my pants was Unreal.  It was just amazing.
> 
>  dvader@intop.net
>  http://members.xoom.com/limpb >>
> 
>         One of the things I don't like about 1st person games is that you never know
> what's behind you.  I really hate that feeling.  Probably one of the reasons I
> don't like playing them very much.
> 
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:03:54 -0600
From: "FearWN" <raveboy@siu.edu>
Subject: [N64] Zelda Water Dungeon-Child Link

What happens to Zora's Daughter(the water princess) after you defeat the
giant octopus guy?  Where the heck does she go?
- -Fear WN
Sorry that I'm so far behind, but I've only been able to play like 2 hrs a
day.


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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:16:03 -0600
From: D Fentie <d.fentie@home.com>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda Water Dungeon-Child Link

Just keep on playing and you will see when you beat the dungeon...

FearWN wrote:
> 
> What happens to Zora's Daughter(the water princess) after you defeat the
> giant octopus guy?  Where the heck does she go?
> -Fear WN
> Sorry that I'm so far behind, but I've only been able to play like 2 hrs a
> day.
> 
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 00:12:53 -0500
From: Cho <tocher@portjeff.net>
Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - 2 EZ questions for you guys/gals.

Random meaning which dog is the proper dog for the concerned owner.
I think every person's dog is in a different spot.

Bryan Archambeault wrote:
> 
> For the dogs, it's not random.  If you bump into a dog, it will follow you
> until you leave the market completely.  Try it.  And, mine was in the same
> place (the one by the entrance is white, but it's not the right one, just
> like you said).
> 
> For the chicken, yes, I've looked at the action button, but it never changes
> to "Grab" or anything like that.  Even when there's that green thing and
> Navi over it's head.  All Link does is do a roll and say "Yah!" when I'm
> near that chicken.  I have no problems picking up any other chicken in the
> game.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cho [mailto:tocher@portjeff.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 1:04 PM
> To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - 2 EZ questions for you guys/gals.
> 
> That was not the case with me.  I am guessing that it is random.  Are
> you saying the one at the castle entrance?  Not for me, I had the one
> behind the first trading stand to the left of where you enter the
> square.  As for the chicken, do you pay attention to the action button
> when you near them?
> 
> Bryan Archambeault wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I've caught the dog (for those of you still hung up on this one,
> it's
> > the first dog you walk up to that follows you around.  So, avoid all the
> > other dogs, and only walk up to the one that is the lady's dog), but I
> > cannot figure out how to catch the chicken.  Help!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cho [mailto:tocher@portjeff.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:42 PM
> > To: n64@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: [N64] Zelda - 2 EZ questions for you guys/gals.
> >
> > A reward?  Just imagine how excited you would be to figure this out...
> >
> > The answer is yes.
> >
> > Kevin Mapp wrote:
> > >
> > > Inside the basement of the Deku tree where you kill
> > > the spider and get the golden skull, there are 2 barred
> > > gates that you can approach when your in the water, do
> > > these open?
> > >
> > > Is there a reward for catching that ladies dog
> > > or the girls chicken in that little village?
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
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