From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #676 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Wednesday, January 27 1999 Volume 01 : Number 676 Re: [N64] Just a Question RE: [N64] zelda RE: [N64] zelda RE: [N64] zelda RE: [N64] zelda Re: [N64] zelda [N64] zelda quest [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] RE: [N64] zelda Re: [N64] zelda quest Re: [N64] zelda sell me something with C Re: [N64] zelda quest Re: [N64] zelda quest Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] Re: [N64] zelda [N64] Metroid 64 Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] [N64] Trey = VG history. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:54:56 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question Also, I think it's kind of weird that I don't hold two games to the same standard. For instance, in Turok II I didn't really have a problem with dying, because I was playing on Easy. the thing that took the longest was how to find the damn save points and warps for each level. When I played Turok II, I got extremely frustrated, and I consider the game a prime example of graphics over gameplay. On the other hand, there was another game in which I didn't die very much, but I never felt frustrated. That game is called Zelda 64 =). I died only about 5 times through the entire game, and it took me about 40-50 hours to complete the first time. I never once while playing felt any sense of annoyance, except maybe at having to stop =). Some of the puzzles stumped me at first, but not to a degree that caused frustration. I could play that game for up to 6 hours at a time. In contrast, I can barely stand playing single-player Turok II for more than an hour. Fine, so maybe it is unfair to compare Turok to the greatest game of all time. I still had the same feeling in games like, say, Banjo-Kazooie. The first time I beat the game, it took almost 40 hours. But I very seldom was wandering around not knowing what to do or searching for the exit. - -----Original Message----- From: Alex To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [N64] Just a Question >At 18:51 26-01-99 -0600, you wrote: >>Let me give you a little senario as to what games I like: you are >>playing a game, there are two paths to take, left and right. You chose >>right which circles and turns and eventually comes to another path where >>you can chose left and right again. BZZZ I hate that type of game, now >>I have to remember to go left and right not only at this junction but at >>the one previous to that. I get angry and frusturated because it feels >>like I'm at school remembering what I already went through how I did it, >>what I got etc. I don't like that feeling. To me games have to be fun >>not really complex but just plain fun. >> > >Ah I see what you mean. I agree that trail-and-error gameplay is just plain >terrible game design. I still prefer short/hard over short/easy. If the >levels are short ( a la Goldeneye, Blast Corps) it is not frustrating to >have to replay the level. It's still possible to have a long and challenging >level, using things like midway-restart points, but designers have to stay >away from one-hit-deaths and the like in long levels. > >alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:06:00 -0500 From: "Lapenna, Russ" Subject: RE: [N64] zelda At 13:11 26-01-99 GMT-4, you wrote: > spoiler tip... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Lady in kakariko wants fish... You can sell her almost anything that will fit in a bottle. Bugs... Blue Fire... Fariees etc. AFAIK the only things you can't sell are Poes and medicine. alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean that is a woman, the one who says sell me something with C. I thought it was some wierd little boy. Russ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:57:28 -0000 From: MARK Subject: RE: [N64] zelda I concur, I too thought it was a boy > -----Original Message----- > From: Lapenna, Russ [SMTP:Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA] > Sent: 27 January 1999 12:06 > To: "n64@lists.xmission.com" ; "Alex" > Subject: RE: [N64] zelda > > > At 13:11 26-01-99 GMT-4, you wrote: > > spoiler tip... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Lady in kakariko wants fish... > > You can sell her almost anything that will fit in a bottle. Bugs... > Blue > Fire... Fariees etc. AFAIK the only things you can't sell are Poes and > medicine. > > > alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > You mean that is a woman, the one who says sell me something with C. > I thought it was some wierd little boy. > > Russ > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:55:00 -0500 From: "Lapenna, Russ" Subject: RE: [N64] zelda >I concur, I too thought it was a boy Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is supposedly in Kakariko Village. So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about?? Russ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:44:16 -0500 From: tmcshea@earthlink.net Subject: RE: [N64] zelda At 08:55 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >>I concur, I too thought it was a boy > >Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is >in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with >the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is >supposedly in Kakariko Village. > >So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about?? It's the same boy that was in Hyrule Castle when you were a boy, he just moves to Karariko Village along with everyone else when Link is an adult. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:43:20 -0600 From: D Fentie Subject: Re: [N64] zelda Which person that moved, lots of them moved. Is it the one on his knees patting his legs with his hands and he says "sell me something with C" tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote: > > At 08:55 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: > >>I concur, I too thought it was a boy > > > >Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is > >in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with > >the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is > >supposedly in Kakariko Village. > > > >So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about?? > > It's the same boy that was in Hyrule Castle when you were a boy, he just > moves to Karariko Village along with everyone else when Link is an adult. > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:44:13 GMT-4 From: "STEPHANE QUIMPERE" Subject: [N64] zelda quest Question: how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:05:03 -0200 From: *ReadERROR Subject: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR [ReadERROR@warzo= ne.com] As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today = have been, one might begin to wonder if pc online gaming will continue to = flourish as it has in the past several years. Let's see; what do we have s= aturating the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repeti= tive commercials?? Well, you have Sony's Playstation [which has been enorm= ously successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into= light], and in September of '99 we will see the new Sega Dreamcast; toppi= ng Nintendo and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. But ar= e these systems really a threat to the stability of pc online gaming as we= know it?! The answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat ro= om junkies, and internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady in= flux of pc gaming addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my pc, y= et I still cannot match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't ge= t me wrong, its nice to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your= playstation and play, but theres nothing quite like knowing you took some= guy from the U.K.'s head off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that= you just ended the virtual life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't = even know] with a missle blast. I know it can be a drag [especially if you= have a slow connection like me] to engage in some online games and keep u= p, but it can equally be as thrilling when things come together. Your not = going to be playing anyone in any other country on your Playstation or N64= [anytime soon anyways]. That is why for the time being PC online gamers w= ill have an edge over the plug 'n play crowd. Besides theres more to the l= eisure of simpling pluging in your system and hitting start. Why who can d= o without the problems of full servers, or server incompatibilities, or id= iots that just like to chat in the playing area, or ping times that border= on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off in time?? Thats all = part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunatley those are some reasons peopl= e choose stand-alone systems over pc gaming. But when it all comes down to= it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is choices. You can inves= t in a Playstation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the arrival of the n= ew Dreamcast or you can build a pc. All are good options if you are a true= gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some might say tha= ts a matter of opinion... Let us know what you think.=20 "You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the shelves= . Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With the prolifer= ation of video games for stand alone systems [N64, Playstation, Dreamcast]= on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming is threatened or affected = at all by this?" *ReadERROR ICQ #112822 EGN #154 http://games.hactivist.net http://welcome.to/piracy101world [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:05:27 -0200 From: *ReadERROR Subject: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] PC Online Gaming vs. Entertainment Systems by *ReadERROR [ReadERROR@warzo= ne.com] As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today = have been, one might begin to wonder if pc online gaming will continue to = flourish as it has in the past several years. Let's see; what do we have s= aturating the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repeti= tive commercials?? Well, you have Sony's Playstation [which has been enorm= ously successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into= light], and in September of '99 we will see the new Sega Dreamcast; toppi= ng Nintendo and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. But ar= e these systems really a threat to the stability of pc online gaming as we= know it?! The answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat ro= om junkies, and internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady in= flux of pc gaming addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my pc, y= et I still cannot match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't ge= t me wrong, its nice to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your= playstation and play, but theres nothing quite like knowing you took some= guy from the U.K.'s head off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that= you just ended the virtual life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't = even know] with a missle blast. I know it can be a drag [especially if you= have a slow connection like me] to engage in some online games and keep u= p, but it can equally be as thrilling when things come together. Your not = going to be playing anyone in any other country on your Playstation or N64= [anytime soon anyways]. That is why for the time being PC online gamers w= ill have an edge over the plug 'n play crowd. Besides theres more to the l= eisure of simpling pluging in your system and hitting start. Why who can d= o without the problems of full servers, or server incompatibilities, or id= iots that just like to chat in the playing area, or ping times that border= on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off in time?? Thats all = part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunatley those are some reasons peopl= e choose stand-alone systems over pc gaming. But when it all comes down to= it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is choices. You can inves= t in a Playstation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the arrival of the n= ew Dreamcast or you can build a pc. All are good options if you are a true= gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some might say tha= ts a matter of opinion... Let us know what you think.=20 "You can't escape it. They're on the t.v. and in the stores on the shelves= . Video game systems and the hundreds of games for them. With the prolifer= ation of video games for stand alone systems [N64, Playstation, Dreamcast]= on the rise, do you feel that pc online gaming is threatened or affected = at all by this?" *ReadERROR ICQ #112822 EGN #154 http://games.hactivist.net http://welcome.to/piracy101world [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:49:00 -0500 From: "Lapenna, Russ" Subject: RE: [N64] zelda >Which person that moved, lots of them moved. Is it the one on his knees >patting his legs with his hands and he says "sell me something with C" >tmcshea@earthlink.net wrote: Yeah that's the one. Someone started this thread saying it was a woman, and assuming we're talking about the same one, it seems we agree it's a boy. Russ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:26:35 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest I've beat Zelda 3 times now. - -----Original Message----- From: STEPHANE QUIMPERE To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 1:44 PM Subject: [N64] zelda quest Question: how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:32:39 EST From: SF2Dave@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] zelda sell me something with C In a message dated 1/27/99 9:00:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes: > Although maybe they're talking about someone else, cause the "boy is > in Hyrule Castle isn't he? Whatever the name of that place is with > the shops and bowling alley etc. the lady they're talking about is > supposedly in Kakariko Village. > > So if I'm mistaken, what lady are we talking about?? > > Russ > It is the same person, be it a young boy or young lady. Remember, just about all of the people from Hyrule Castle Town escaped to Kakariko Village after Ganondorf took over as King of Hyrule. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:37:32 EST From: SF2Dave@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest In a message dated 1/27/99 1:45:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, ESQ7367@CUSLM.CA writes: > Question: > how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest. I did. I'm on my third run throgh the game. First with the name "Link", which took me about 60 hours to get to Ganon, second with the name "Dave", which took me about 20 hours to get to Ganon, and now on my third run through calling myself "Zelda". This time around I decided not to time myself. To make the game a lot easier the second & tird time around I got Epona, the 4 bottles, and the Biggoron's sword before I beat the Forest Temple. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:00:10 -0500 From: catons@juno.com Subject: Re: [N64] zelda quest >how many of those who past zelda 64, restarted another quest. > > Yeah, after I beat the game, I let my friend(who had been bugging the heck out of me for it) borrow Zelda, then I sat at home, lonely with nothing to do... After crying about it for awhile, I wiped my tear stained face and called up a different friend, who lives just down the road, and borrowed his game, and beat it in a short time. IMO, it's just as much fun the second time, if not better!! Fantastic addition to the video game industry, my fellow gamers!!! :-) > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:05:43 EST From: SF2Dave@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] In a message dated 1/27/99 1:47:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, ReadERROR@warzone.com writes: > As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today have > been, one might begin to wonder if PC online gaming will continue to flourish > as it has in the past several years. PC gaming is a niche group. Internet gaming is an even smaller group. If anything will kill Internet gaming it won't be console systems, it will be (in my humble opinion) the lack of variety found in the PC gaming market today. I have nothing against the PC gamer, but I'd be bored in a week if the system I chose as my primary game unit had nothing more than 1st person shooters & real time strategy games. > Let's see; what do we have saturating > the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repetitive > commercials?? Well, you have Sony's PlayStation [which has been enormously > successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into light], > and in September of '99 we will see the new SEGA Dreamcast; topping Nintendo > and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. Hmm. I thought that 128 Bits is actually 4 times as much as 64 Bits, but then again, I could be wrong. And the N64 wasn't the first system with 64 Bit graphics. That goes to the Atari Jaguar. Sure it didn't have a 64-Bit CPU, but two 32-Bit processors running in parallel does make it a 64-Bit system, although some may argue this with me until the end of time I stand by my conviction. Furthermore, calling the Dreamcast a 128 Bit system is about as smart as calling the PC Engine a 16-Bit system. The measure of consoles is based on their CPU's. That's how it's been for as long as I can remember. So the Dreamcast is in all reality a 64-Bit system, and the PC Engine (and all of its offspring including the Super Grafx) are 8-Bit systems. > But are these systems > really a threat to the stability of PC online gaming as we know it?! No. That would be like saying motorcycles are a threat to the automobile industry. A different userbase for the most part. >The > answer in my book is no. As long as there are still chat room junkies, and > Internet porn mongers, you will still have you a steady influx of PC gaming > addicts [like me]. I have a Nintendo 64 besides my PC, yet I still cannot > match the thrill of an online Quake 2 fragfest. Don't get me wrong, its nice > to slap a cartridge in your N64 or stick a CD in your PlayStation and play, > but there's nothing quite like knowing you took some guy from the UK's head > off his shoulders with a rocket launcher or that you just ended the virtual > life of some girl from Russia [whom you don't even know] with a missile blast. > I know it can be a drag [especially if you have a slow connection like me] to > engage in some online games and keep up, but it can equally be as thrilling > when things come together. No comment. > Your not going to be playing anyone in any other > country on your PlayStation or N64 [anytime soon anyway]. Unless you take your system on vacation ;) > That is why for > the time being PC online gamers will have an edge over the plug 'n play crowd. Yeah, don't have to worry about a social life. I'd rather play multiplayer (like Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Turok 2, Saturn Bomberman, Mario Party, or Soul Blade) with people I know then isolate myself at a terminal and blow up people from Germany or elsewhere who could turn out to be something else than I think they are, or aren't. > Besides there's more to the leisure of simpering plugging in your system and > hitting start. Why who can do without the problems of full servers, or server > incompatibilities, or idiots that just like to chat in the playing area, or > ping times that border on mini-naps, or not being able to get your move off > in time?? That's all part of the game right?! Wrong. Unfortunately those are > some reasons people choose stand-alone systems over PC gaming. But when it > all comes down to it and the fat is trimmed away, the bottom line is choices. > You can invest in a PlayStation or Nintendo 64, or even wait until the > arrival of the new Dreamcast or you can build a PC. All are good options if > you are a true gamer, but can one really be better than another? Well some > might say that's a matter of opinion... > As for online gaming I'll wait for the Dreamcast. I'm having too much fun with console multiplayer. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:06:41 EST From: SF2Dave@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] zelda In a message dated 1/27/99 1:54:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Russ_Lapenna@HRCC.ON.CA writes: > Yeah that's the one. Someone started this thread saying it was > a woman, and assuming we're talking about the same one, it seems we > agree it's a boy. > > Russ A boy with implants? ;) Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:32:56 EST From: Bastion007@aol.com Subject: [N64] Metroid 64 To those of you itching for an N64 incarnation of Metroid 64: In the latest Nintendo Power, there was a Counselors' corner with tips of Super Metroid. This, I'm sure means very little, but at least Nintendo is keeping Samus alive. ~Matt [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:43:04 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] PC Online Gaming VS. Entertainment Systems [N64, Playstation, etc] >> As popular as stand alone video game systems out on the market today have >> been, one might begin to wonder if PC online gaming will continue to >flourish >> as it has in the past several years. > >PC gaming is a niche group. Internet gaming is an even smaller group. If >anything will kill Internet gaming it won't be console systems, it will be (in >my humble opinion) the lack of variety found in the PC gaming market today. I >have nothing against the PC gamer, but I'd be bored in a week if the system I >chose as my primary game unit had nothing more than 1st person shooters & real >time strategy games. A "niche"? PC gaming is very popular, as I guess you are not aware. Plus, virtually all PC games released today include some for of Internet support. Maybe the fact that you don't enjoy online gaming is because you are on AOL, the singular worst ISP existant for playing multiplayer games online. >> Let's see; what do we have saturating >> the game system market and flooding our t.v.'s with these repetitive >> commercials?? Well, you have Sony's PlayStation [which has been enormously >> successful], Nintendo 64 [the 1st to bring true 64 bit graphics into light], >> and in September of '99 we will see the new SEGA Dreamcast; topping Nintendo >> and Sony with 128 bit graphics [twice that of the N64]. > >Hmm. I thought that 128 Bits is actually 4 times as much as 64 Bits, but then >again, I could be wrong. And the N64 wasn't the first system with 64 Bit >graphics. BLAH BLAH BLAH, etc.. You mind explaining to me how 4 times 64 = 128? >> But are these systems >> really a threat to the stability of PC online gaming as we know it?! > >No. That would be like saying motorcycles are a threat to the automobile >industry. A different userbase for the most part. I would agree here, to a point. The userbase is not necessarily different (I play online alot, and I like my N64), but that the two serve different needs. I play Starcraft online when I'm looking for a good strategy experience, while on the N64 it is practically impossible to have a RTS game. On the other hand, when I have friends over, I would go for the N64 because it's not feasible to have a four-player in the same location game on the computer, unless you guys all bought network cards and brought their computers over (I know ppl who do this). >> Your not going to be playing anyone in any other >> country on your PlayStation or N64 [anytime soon anyway]. > >Unless you take your system on vacation ;) I assume you have heard of the Dreamcast, as you mention it below. That would enable you to play ppl in other countries. >> That is why for >> the time being PC online gamers will have an edge over the plug 'n play >crowd. > >Yeah, don't have to worry about a social life. I'd rather play multiplayer >(like Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Turok 2, Saturn Bomberman, Mario >Party, or Soul Blade) with people I know then isolate myself at a terminal and >blow up people from Germany or elsewhere who could turn out to be something >else than I think they are, or aren't. Well, to each their own. You can't always have four people over at your house to play games with, while online there are always ppl to play. Also, the N64 is limited to 4 players, as is the Dreamcast, while the PC, depending on what game you play, can support anywhere from 4 to several hundred as in Ultima Online. >As for online gaming I'll wait for the Dreamcast. I'm having too much fun with >console multiplayer. I love online gaming, and I've been playing Starcraft online since it came out last year. That's more than I can say for any N64 game I've played, except maybe Goldeneye. As for the Dreamcast, I would avoid it, because Sega is probably going to charge a monthly rate for the online service, in addition to the cost of the system and the game. >Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:39:06 EST From: Bastion007@aol.com Subject: [N64] Trey = VG history. Look, if you guys want to know about the history of video games, it's easy. Go read, "Joystick Nation," by J. C. Herz, and, "Game Over," by David Sheff. Also, there are tons of sites out there that any decent search engine can list that deal with old systems. It's not that hard. ~Matt PS: I'll talk to Trey and see why he left. 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