From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #748 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Thursday, April 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 748 Re: [N64] Eternal Darkness Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast Re: [N64] Man is this list dead (Out of space on DVD?) Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast Re: [N64] Game Boy Color Re: [N64] Eternal Darkness Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast Re: [N64] Game Boy Color Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Upcoming Games Re: [N64] Scapegoating Re: [N64] Upcoming Games [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time Re: [N64] Internet Dreamcast Re: [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time Re: [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time RE: [N64] Scapegoating ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:49:09 -0400 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] Eternal Darkness I failed to see how exactly it is like Zelda in any way in the IGn64 article.. clue me in? - -----Original Message----- From: D Fentie To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:27 PM Subject: [N64] Eternal Darkness >There is a newgame coming out from Nintendo called Eternal Darkness >which is somesort of cross between a RE and Zelda. check it out at >ign64 and tell us your thoughts, looks good from what I hear so far... > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:49:45 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast In a message dated 4/21/99 8:41:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, glacion@earthlink.net writes: > Question: how are you typing this e-mail right now? One fingered. Down from two fingered since I burnt my left hand. On a keyboard. > What are the specs on > your present PC? 80486DX2 66 MHz, 20 Megs of RAM. > Question 2: How much have you spent buying games in the last year? > Hmm. Good question. about $100 on N64 games, $250 on PSX games, $20 on Game Boy games and about $60 on controllers (1 N64 & one Dual Shock). That's not exact, but it's close. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:44:24 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Man is this list dead (Out of space on DVD?) In a message dated 4/21/99 8:40:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, glacion@earthlink.net writes: > What do you mean you "never did like those"? They're not out on the market > yet! Plus, it's not like you have to flip the DVD or anything, there is a > read head on either side. Using both sides of the disc. Some movies I have have the widescreen on one side and condenced on the other side. Actually all the movies I have are like that. I never liked that idea. Two discs would have been fine with me. That's what I'm talking about. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:43:32 EDT From: Davidxvx@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating In a message dated 4/21/99 9:33:57 PM Central Daylight Time, moblin@hotmail.com writes: << I've heard several times today that DOOM is being blamed for the Colorado massacre. That's just crap! There was obviously something wrong with these kids in the first place. I've played DOOM, I haven't killed anybody. That's not the only game, either. Mortal Kombat, Turok, Resident Evil all come to mind. I don't have a military surplus in my garage. No shelf full of pipe bombs and hand grenades. I think that the reason this problem isn't going away is that people are blaming the wrong source. I can practically GUARENTEE that this never would have happened if the initial school shooting had never been shown on the media in 1997 (or was it 1998?) Certainly this exhaustive news coverage will lead to MORE killings. As one kid jokingly (but truthfully) said at school today: "It's a fad. It's getting more and more popular. Kill people and become famous." Long live Miyamoto and his safe havens of the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule... for creating video games that can't be blamed. JUSTIN BAILEY >> They didn't specifically name Doom (at least on the program I was watching; 20/20), but said virtual reality. And I totally agree. If a game can push somebody to do something like that, then they were too close to the brink anyways. Those souless bastards were already messed up. - --David [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:58:33 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast In a message dated 4/21/99 9:44:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d.fentie@home.com writes: > WAAAAIT a minute, you have like every consoul there is and many many > many games (more than I have combined) but yet you cant afford it? > Also, you don't need to pay that much, $1000 would give you a good > computer if you put it together yourself and really searched. A lot of my games I get second hand. I only have a NES, SNES, N64, GB, VB, PSX, Saturn, Jaguar, Genesis, and two Atari computers (that don't work). Still $1000 compared to around $500 (Dreamcast with needed accessories and some games) I'll take what Sega has to offer. What a computer has to run games today may not be enough to run games next year, not so with a console. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:11:19 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Game Boy Color In a message dated 4/21/99 9:21:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bastion007@aol.com writes: > Yeah, sounds cool. Instead of spending $20-$15 for a Memory Pak now, you can > go blow over $100 on buying a separate storage device. Hmm, never buy another VMS again. It would be used mostly for saving stuff (e-mail, nude pictures, diagrams of bombs) off the internet. > What is SEGA doing? Console or PC? I know they are trying to blur the lines > between the two, but I mean, c'mon, look at the 3D-O and the CD-i. All crap. A console with Internet capabilities. If not for the Zip Drive the Dreamcast would be no greater (for surfing and mail) than Web TV. I bet there will be a Zip Dive/Keyboard bundle. > Either SEGA is incredibly stupid or has so much foresight that it's beyond > us > mere mortals. This is proabably Sega's last chace at sucess in the console realm, they gotta go out with both guns blazing. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:15:36 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Eternal Darkness In a message dated 4/21/99 10:51:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, glacion@earthlink.net writes: > I failed to see how exactly it is like Zelda in any way in the IGn64 > article.. clue me in? > maybe cos it uses polygons? [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:13:50 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating In a message dated 4/21/99 10:33:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moblin@hotmail.com writes: > Long live Miyamoto and his safe havens of the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule... > for creating video games that can't be blamed. > > JUSTIN BAILEY > ------ ------ Until some kid goes on a rampage with a sword & a bow & arrow. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:32:23 -0500 From: "Justin Bailey" Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating >> Long live Miyamoto and his safe havens of the Mushroom Kingdom and >> Hyrule... for creating video games that can't be blamed. > > Until some kid goes on a rampage with a sword & a bow & arrow. > > Trey Or until some kid sporting a mustache and a red cap comes to school and stomps people to death, all the while screaming "Do you bake cakes? You do? YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!!! Ha ha ha hahaha" :) But really, this is a serious matter. My condolences to every person, living in Colorado or elsewhere, that have been torn apart physically, socially, and emotionally by this tragedy. The kids at that school may be so emotionally scarred that they will never let their own children into a public school, let alone attend another one themselves. No video game can reproduce the gory scene those unfortunate students had to witness. P.S. - 20/20 DID specifically mention DOOM, and had DOOM videoclips of blowing away demons with a shotgun. And the Internet site they talked about, www.trenchcoat.com, is really a porn site, not the Trenchcoat Mafia's homepage. It's been disabled, don't worry (or get your hopes up, depending on what kind of person you are) :) JUSTIN BAILEY - ------ ------ [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:35:09 EDT From: Davidxvx@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating In a message dated 4/21/99 10:33:45 PM Central Daylight Time, moblin@hotmail.com writes: << P.S. - 20/20 DID specifically mention DOOM, and had DOOM videoclips of blowing away demons with a shotgun. And the Internet site they talked about, www.trenchcoat.com, is really a porn site, not the Trenchcoat Mafia's homepage. It's been disabled, don't worry (or get your hopes up, depending on what kind of person you are) :) JUSTIN BAILEY >> I said that they mentioned Doom, but they said "Can virtual reality games like this be responsible for these kinds of events?" - --David [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:12:13 PDT From: "Elliot Jefferson" Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast 1st, he didn't have to drop $1000 or more at one time to pick up his consoles. It's easier to drop $200-300 than $1500 to $2000. His point is why go through all of that when he can just plunk down $250-300 and play games on a console. Besides, you still have games that are EXCLUSIVE to consoles that you (legally) have to own a console to play. PC aren't going to kill consoles for a little while...but that's a different topic. Elliot >From: D Fentie >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com >To: n64@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:51:31 -0600 > >WAAAAIT a minute, you have like every consoul there is and many many >many games (more than I have combined) but yet you cant afford it? >Also, you don't need to pay that much, $1000 would give you a good >computer if you put it together yourself and really searched. >> Maybe not everybody is getting this. I cannot afford a $1500 box to play >> internet multi-player on. I'm not rich and it's too late for my parents to >> spoil me. (I could afford it, but I love my car and hate public >> transportation). But I can very well afford a $200 box that is dedicated to >> playing games. Sheesh. Is nobody getting it yet? >> >> Trey >> >> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >> [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:18:03 PDT From: "Elliot Jefferson" Subject: Re: [N64] Game Boy Color I think there's going to be a meger of the two (PCs and consoles) because they are beginning to use the same technology. Also, what one doesn't do well, the other does. So, there is going to be a meeting in the middle. That's what Sega is trying to do with the Dreamcast. Console price with ease of play, but the PCs internet capabilities and technology. But, are consumers ready for it ? Sega wanted to be out there before Sony, but first isn't necessarily best. Elliot >From: Bastion007@aol.com >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com >To: n64@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [N64] Game Boy Color >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:16:54 EDT > >Yeah, sounds cool. Instead of spending $20-$15 for a Memory Pak now, you can >go blow over $100 on buying a separate storage device. > >What is SEGA doing? Console or PC? I know they are trying to blur the lines >between the two, but I mean, c'mon, look at the 3D-O and the CD-i. All crap. >Either SEGA is incredibly stupid or has so much foresight that it's beyond us >mere mortals. > >Either way, I ain't buying a Dreamcast until it has a proved library. > >~Matt > >< >Trey>> > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:34:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Eddy Wu wrote: > Question: how are you typing this e-mail right now? What are the specs on > your present PC? Well, I just got a new PC, but before I was using a mac Centris 610 (which runs at like 16MHz). I could type e-mail just fine, but i could not any 3D games...basically nothing beyond SimCity 2000. Just because you are on the list does not mean an you have an expensive game ready PC. > Question 2: How much have you spent buying games in the last year? Are you suggesting Trey buy a PC with that money? In case you did not notice that would leave him no money to buy games themselves. Hmmm. Stryder > -----Original Message----- > From: TreyTable@aol.com > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast > > > >In a message dated 4/19/99 1:23:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >glacion@earthlink.net writes: > > > >> Trey, if you want FPS, why not just play it on the PC? In fact, PC FPS is > in > >> general much much better than on consoles. > >> > > > >Maybe not everybody is getting this. I cannot afford a $1500 box to play > >internet multi-player on. I'm not rich and it's too late for my parents to > >spoil me. (I could afford it, but I love my car and hate public > >transportation). But I can very well afford a $200 box that is dedicated to > >playing games. Sheesh. Is nobody getting it yet? > > > >Trey > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:36:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Re: [Off-Topic] Dreamcast On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, D Fentie wrote: > WAAAAIT a minute, you have like every consoul there is and many many > many games (more than I have combined) but yet you cant afford it? > Also, you don't need to pay that much, $1000 would give you a good > computer if you put it together yourself and really searched. Again...think people. If he can have several consoles and buy the best games of each one OR buy a PC and have no money left for games for ANY of them. What sense does that make?? Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:49:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Justin Bailey wrote: > I've heard several times today that DOOM is being blamed for the Colorado > massacre. That's just crap! There was obviously something wrong with these > kids in the first place. I've played DOOM, I haven't killed anybody. > That's not the only game, either. Mortal Kombat, Turok, Resident Evil all > come to mind. I don't have a military surplus in my garage. No shelf full > of pipe bombs and hand grenades. I hear ya man. I was going to write the list about the exact same thing. There is no denying that what happened is a tragedy, but it pisses me off to no end when idiots in the media sit there and blame video games forstuff like this. Do they even stop to realize how many MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people play video games like Doom or watch R rated movies? What percent of those people do stuff like this? I would WAY less than 1%...in other words, there is likely no connection. How many of us on this list have shot somebody (I hope no one here says they have :))? And most people would consider most of us 'hardcore' gamers. Do something like what happened yesterday, there has to be something else wrong way beyond videogames. I suppose all those Serbians who are killing all those Kosovars must play Doom in their spare time as well. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:54:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Upcoming Games On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Eddy Wu wrote: > There's been some talk that there aren't any good games coming out for N64 > this year.. I'd have to disagree. There are only a few MAJOR titles, like > from Rare, but there are plenty of good games, and many niche titles that I > like. Just running down the IGN release list, here's the games I'm > interested in, based on current info: Using the lsiyou posted here are the ones i am interested in: > Jet Force Gemini (maybe) > Gauntlet Legends (a likely must have for myself) > Vigilante 8: Second Offense (if improved over the first) > Perfect Dark (of course) > Earthbound 64 (depends on reviews) > Banjo-Tooie (loved the first, despite the backlash on this list) Not too bad I guess, probably about all i would be willing to spend on one system anyway. A few more choices would be nice though, because a couple of these may turn out to be not to my liking. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:58:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 Davidxvx@aol.com wrote: > They didn't specifically name Doom (at least on the program I was > watching; 20/20), but said virtual reality. And I totally agree. If a game > can push somebody to do something like that, then they were too close to the > brink anyways. Those souless bastards were already messed up. > > --David Justin probably saw the same thing I did. I was watching Dateline NBC and they specifically named Doom and said that those guys loved that game and then they showed some clips from the game. They went on to mention it several more times as well as videogames and movies in general. Stryder [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:04:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Stryder Subject: Re: [N64] Upcoming Games On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Stryder wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Eddy Wu wrote: > > > There's been some talk that there aren't any good games coming out for N64 > > this year.. I'd have to disagree. There are only a few MAJOR titles, like > > from Rare, but there are plenty of good games, and many niche titles that I > > like. Just running down the IGN release list, here's the games I'm > > interested in, based on current info: > > Using the lsiyou posted here are the ones i am interested in: Hmm..my brain must have slipped a gear here or something...it is supposed to say "the list you posted" Stryder > > > Jet Force Gemini (maybe) > > Gauntlet Legends (a likely must have for myself) > > Vigilante 8: Second Offense (if improved over the first) > > Perfect Dark (of course) > > Earthbound 64 (depends on reviews) > > Banjo-Tooie (loved the first, despite the backlash on this list) > > > Not too bad I guess, probably about all i would be willing to spend on one > system anyway. A few more choices would be nice though, because a couple > of these may turn out to be not to my liking. > > Stryder > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:57:28 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time Ah, Zelda 64, it always comes back to Zelda 64. Remember a few months ago when someone posted what they believed (with good cause) to be the only bad thing about Zelda 64 was that it contained only new music in the soundtrack? Yes, I was a bit disappointed that the Legend of Zelda main theme from Zelda 1-4 was left out. But get this, the main theme of Ocarina of Time, Zelda's Lullaby, is not originally from Zelda 64. It can also be found in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Zelda 3, SNES). It is played when you rescue Princess Zelda from Hyrule Castle while Zelda explains to Link why she was locked up in the dungeon. Cool, eh? If anybody else posted this earlier I want to say that I'm not trying to take credit for something everybody but myself knew about. ;) Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:00:01 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Internet Dreamcast In a message dated 4/22/99 12:19:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eljam@hotmail.com writes: > Console price with ease of play, but the PCs internet > capabilities and technology. But, are consumers ready for it ? Sega > wanted to be out there before Sony, but first isn't necessarily best. > > Elliot After the X-Band, Saturn Net Link, and that N64 modem cart it's really hard to label the Dreamcast as the first. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:40:17 +1000 From: Alex Subject: Re: [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time At 01:57 22-04-99 EDT, you wrote: >Ah, Zelda 64, it always comes back to Zelda 64. Remember a few months ago >when someone posted what they believed (with good cause) to be the only bad >thing about Zelda 64 was that it contained only new music in the soundtrack? >Yes, I was a bit disappointed that the Legend of Zelda main theme from Zelda >1-4 was left out. But get this, the main theme of Ocarina of Time, Zelda's >Lullaby, is not originally from Zelda 64. It can also be found in The Legend >of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Zelda 3, SNES). It is played when you rescue >Princess Zelda from Hyrule Castle while Zelda explains to Link why she was >locked up in the dungeon. Cool, eh? > >If anybody else posted this earlier I want to say that I'm not trying to take >credit for something everybody but myself knew about. ;) > >Trey > The title music is not Zelda's lullaby. The title music is... the flute (recorder?) tune from the original NES Zelda. Remember you used it to call the teleport whirlwind thing. The same flute (with the same tune) was in Super Mario Bros. 3. alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:39:02 EDT From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] The Legend of Zelda : Ocarina of Time In a message dated 4/22/99 2:32:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alexh@ivanhoe.hotkey.net.au writes: > At 01:57 22-04-99 EDT, you wrote: > >Ah, Zelda 64, it always comes back to Zelda 64. Remember a few months ago > >when someone posted what they believed (with good cause) to be the only bad > > >thing about Zelda 64 was that it contained only new music in the soundtrack? > > >Yes, I was a bit disappointed that the Legend of Zelda main theme from > Zelda > >1-4 was left out. But get this, the main theme of Ocarina of Time, Zelda's > >Lullaby, is not originally from Zelda 64. It can also be found in The > Legend > >of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Zelda 3, SNES). It is played when you rescue > >Princess Zelda from Hyrule Castle while Zelda explains to Link why she was > >locked up in the dungeon. Cool, eh? > > > >If anybody else posted this earlier I want to say that I'm not trying to > take > >credit for something everybody but myself knew about. ;) > > > >Trey > > > > The title music is not Zelda's lullaby. The title music is... the flute > (recorder?) tune from the original NES Zelda. Remember you used it to call > the teleport whirlwind thing. The same flute (with the same tune) was in > Super Mario Bros. 3. > > > alexh@ivanhoe.starway.net.au > Where did I say "title music"? I must have missed that; I said "main theme". Zelda's Lullaby is used throughout the game and is also in the ending. If that doesn't qualify for the "main theme" of the game I must be insano or something. But anyway, the main point of my post is that "Zelda's Lullaby" is not originally from Ocarina of Time. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:09:34 +0100 From: MARK Subject: RE: [N64] Scapegoating It's the same old-same old when something like this happens, they instantly look for a form of entertainment/media to blame, and always seem to forget the country's extremely lax gun laws, and negate to mention the fact that the abundance of availability of legal guns, makes getting illegal guns so much easier. Look at a country like the UK, where gun laws are a lot more controlled, but still incidences occur, (ie: the massacre of primary school children in Scotland). If it can happen in such a society, then it is bound occur more within a society where guns are feely available. Blaming the video-games/cinema/music industries is not the key. These two kids were inherently evil, and would sooner or later gone down the path that they did, maybe not with as dire consequences, or maybe with worse consequences - who is to say? This is a tragedy where we should look at society as a whole, and tear it apart piece by piece to re-build a more acceptable environment. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Stryder [SMTP:atcope@comp.uark.edu] > Sent: 22 April 1999 05:49 > To: n64@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [N64] Scapegoating > > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Justin Bailey wrote: > > > I've heard several times today that DOOM is being blamed for the > Colorado > > massacre. That's just crap! There was obviously something wrong > with these > > kids in the first place. I've played DOOM, I haven't killed > anybody. > > That's not the only game, either. Mortal Kombat, Turok, Resident > Evil all > > come to mind. I don't have a military surplus in my garage. No > shelf full > > of pipe bombs and hand grenades. > > I hear ya man. I was going to write the list about the exact same > thing. > There is no denying that what happened is a tragedy, but it pisses me > off > to no end when idiots in the media sit there and blame video games > forstuff like this. Do they even stop to realize how many MILLIONS > and MILLIONS of people play video games like Doom or watch R rated > movies? What percent of those people do stuff like this? I would WAY > less than 1%...in other words, there is likely no connection. How > many of > us on this list have shot somebody (I hope no one here says they have > :))? > And most people would consider most of us 'hardcore' gamers. Do > something > like what happened yesterday, there has to be something else wrong way > beyond videogames. I suppose all those Serbians who are killing all > those > Kosovars must play Doom in their spare time as well. > > > Stryder > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of n64-digest V1 #748 ************************* [ To quit the n64-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe n64-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]