From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #860 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Tuesday, August 31 1999 Volume 01 : Number 860 Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Re: [N64] shooter Re: [N64] Shadowman Re: [N64] Shadowman Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] Namco game gets perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] blah blah blah Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant...John is less than Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant.. Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM [N64] Hotgames.com - Coolnews Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Re: [N64] Shadowman Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:20:06 EDT From: SKURGE@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... In a message dated 8/30/99 3:23:16 PM Central Daylight Time, jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > SEGA has to prove itself to me. If I play several games that are > great, and really enjoy it, I will get it. Some people are gonna say I > told you so when I get it, (el quenton) but I would hate to waste a chunk > of change for a crappy system, when the PSX is around he corner. The PSX2 is a long time away. I am not willing to settle and be happy with what I have. I think SEGA got it right this time and it is showing in all the reviews I have read and the games demos that I have played. If you want to play the waiting game that is fine, but as for me I will enjoy the next evolutionary step in consoles. Skurge ;) [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:37:09 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] shooter In a message dated 8/30/99 9:18:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, johng@engberganderson.com writes: > PPS(X) - To all you PSX-heads out there, what's the best shooter? I know > there's a Square one and, if I'm not mistaken, a Psygnosis one (NOT Colony > Wars - those games are crap), and a few others. Feel free to reply directly > to me if you don't want to anger the non-PSX folks on the list. Just looking > for a recommendation. > Gee, that's a tough one. Do you mean like classic shooter? As for the best I'd say Einhander by Square. But R-Type Delta could be good but it's not out yet. I have also yet to play G-Darius. Another shooter I like is Project Overkill. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:39:59 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Shadowman In a message dated 8/30/99 9:18:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, johng@engberganderson.com writes: > Oh, come on... you say that Shadowman would have to be of "Zelda or > Goldeneye quality" for you to consider purchasing it... then you go on to > lament the price differential between N64 and PSX games... For $60 yes. I have never paid $60 for a 32-Bit game. (Not including imports, which doesn't count) The most I ever paid for a 32-Bit game was Xenogears ($46.99) which is of Zelda quality I assure you. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:44:35 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Shadowman In a message dated 8/30/99 9:18:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, johng@engberganderson.com writes: > Maybe it has something to do with the fact that there's *nothing* on the PSX > that's "Zelda or Goldeneye quality?" Quantity (and low prices) instead of > quality? > > Maybe? Maybe so, but I think not. I have many games on the PSX that I hold in the same regard as Goldeneye & Zelda. Xenogears, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil Director's Cut, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy 7, and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:47:01 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... In a message dated 8/30/99 4:23:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > By the way, you remember the big stink about the millions being spent on > marketing for this console? Where are they? I RARELY see game ads or > commercials for Dreamcast on TV. Shouldn't they be advertising on TV? I > know the commercials are out there, but not in very many spots. > > Enough babble.. > > -John Wait until you see the new commercials. The ones that were made on Dreamcast hardware. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:52:13 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... In a message dated 8/30/99 8:31:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > Obviously you dot understand. I would definitely lean towards a brand > whose previous model was not a flop. I wont just jump into the PSX, but I > would be more willing to buy Sony than Sega. Get it? > But you bough an N64 when the Virtual Boy was a flop. Is there something I'm not getting here? Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:53:34 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM In a message dated 8/30/99 8:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vi@cs.bu.edu writes: > The only game for PSX and n64 that got perfect score was MGS and Zelda. > I didn't expect a first generation game to get perfect score. > Soul Calibur = 10,10,10,10 > > > Other great scoring games include Ready 2 rumble and Sonic adventure. > > -Vi I believe it. Why Soul Blade didn't get 4 10s when it came out is still beyond me. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:58:06 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Namco game gets perfect score in EGM In a message dated 8/30/99 10:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, porkpie@wam.umd.edu writes: > How bout "not very surprising" considering the Dreamcast is the most powerful > console out right now.. Why is it so hard for you to accept that the game > just > may be a great game.. is your bias that bad against Sega that you make up > excuses as to why it got a perfect score.. ? > > Nev. > But Soul Calibur is a Namco game, not a Sega game. Not liking Tekken 3 doesn't mean you don't like Sony. Same with if you don't like Turok that doesn't mean you don't like Nintendo. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:59:04 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM In a message dated 8/30/99 10:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, karens@smartt.com writes: > Its called a Honeymoon. I can see that magazines turning against DC after > launch. > > Dex Will Segadojo be one of those? ;) Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:02:06 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] blah blah blah In a message dated 8/30/99 10:57:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eljam@hotmail.com writes: > True. Even though the current issue of NAG was a DC loveliest, they basically > said they don't expect a long life for the system and expect mediocre > software support for it. > > Elliot But seriously, do you really care what they think? I read the magazines, well Next Gen anyway, for news, not opinions. I'm old enough to form my own. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:03:51 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM In a message dated 8/31/99 12:00:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d.fentie@home.com writes: > Who cares if its more powerful. My PC is more powerful than 6 N64's put > together but it still can't pull off a game as good as Zelda 64. Until > they crack out a few AWESOME games it is nothing. So the N64 was nothing for two years? But yet you still had one? Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:36:28 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM In a message dated 8/31/99 1:53:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vi@cs.bu.edu writes: > Games that got perfect score in EGM are: > > Monico GP // for genesis I think > Street Fighter 2 // for snes i think. might be SF turbo or champion > Zelda 64 > Metal Gear Solid > Soul Calibor > > Anyone else remember any games that got perfect score? > > -Vi Soul Calibur, Zelda 64, and Metal Gear Solid are all I know. In EGM issue November 1990, Super Monaco GP (Genesis) got a 9, 10, 9, 10 from Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. In EGM issue 36, Street Fighter 2 (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. In EGM issue 50, Street Fighter 2 Turbo (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:09:40 -0500 (CDT) From: John Carson Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Yes, again. I am comparing apples to apples. The Game Boy <- (Look at the name) Is a portable console, not a home console system. Not their big offering. Come on people. :) - -John On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 TreyDX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/30/99 8:31:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > > > Obviously you dot understand. I would definitely lean towards a brand > > whose previous model was not a flop. I wont just jump into the PSX, but I > > would be more willing to buy Sony than Sega. Get it? > > > > But you bough an N64 when the Virtual Boy was a flop. Is there something I'm > not getting here? > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > - John Carson jcarson@comp.uark.edu [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:16:41 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant...John is less than In a message dated 99-08-31 09:10:37 EDT, you write: > Yes, again. I am comparing apples to apples. The Game Boy <- (Look at > the name) Is a portable console, not a home console system. Not their > big offering. Come on people. :) > > -John > What are you talking about? I said Virtual Boy. The console that came out between the SNES & N64. The one that was a commercial flop. Rember the Virtual Boy? Red screen, Mario is playing Tennis in Hell. Kickbutt Wario Land title. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:42:18 -0500 (CDT) From: John Carson Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant.. My mistake I meat to type Virtual Boy. On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 TreyDX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-08-31 09:10:37 EDT, you write: > > > Yes, again. I am comparing apples to apples. The Game Boy <- (Look at > > the name) Is a portable console, not a home console system. Not their > > big offering. Come on people. :) > > > > -John > > > > What are you talking about? I said Virtual Boy. The console that came out > between the SNES & N64. The one that was a commercial flop. Rember the > Virtual Boy? Red screen, Mario is playing Tennis in Hell. Kickbutt Wario Land > title. > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > - John Carson jcarson@comp.uark.edu [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:08:09 -0400 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM Most powerful does not translate to best games. See the N64 in it's first few months. I'm not biased against the DC, and I'm certainly not biased against Soul Calibur, which I fed many a quarter in the arcade. This is just the simple truth. You want proof? Look at EGM Issue 106, May 1998 (after Mario was released). Look on page 116, at the Final Word. Read it. If you don't have access to a copy, let me quote some key lines: "More than a few readers have made this accusation, claiming we're a little too hard on the games we rate.... After all, it has been more than three years since we let fly with a perfect score (they meant perfect score as in 1 10, not 4 10's)." "We've always held to the strong belief that for a game to earn a perfect score, it has to be...well, perfect. It can't suffer from any slowdown. It can't have any camera problems. It can't be too short, too hard, too easy, too salty.... any flaw, no matter how teeny tiny, has been enough to knock even the best games down to a 9.5" "Lately, we've reconsidered our super-strict policy, and we've come to the conclusion that there'e no logic in having a 10-point scale if we're only ever going to use nine of those points. So, from now on, if we review something that sets a new standard, that tops every other game known to mankind, it's going to get the credit it deserves - a 10 rating." - -----Original Message----- From: Nev Jr. To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM >how bout "not very surprising" considering the dreamcast is the most powerful >console out right now.. Why is it so hard for you to accept that the game just >may be a great game.. is your bias that bad against sega that you make up >excuses as to why it got a perfect score.. ? > > Nev.. > > > >Eddy Wu wrote: > >> Not very surprising, considering how EGM has been raving about the DC in the >> past few issue. Also, Mario and the PSX launch titles were before EGM >> revised the rating system to be a tad more lenient. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vi On >> To: n64 >> Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:43 PM >> Subject: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM >> >> > >> >The only game for psx and n64 that got perfect score was MGS and zelda. >> >I didn't expect a first generation game to get perfect score. >> >Soul Calibur = 10,10,10,10 >> > >> > >> >Other great scoring games include Ready 2 rumble and Sonic adventure. >> > >> >-Vi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >> >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >> > >> >> [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >> [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:36:57 +1000 (EST) From: editor - hotgames Subject: [N64] Hotgames.com - Coolnews COOLNEWS: Gamedate August 31, 1999 The Newsletter of Hotgames.com GOLD IN THEM HILLS Today sees a number of sequels to some of PC's finest games hit the front page of your favorite PC gaming destination, Hotgames.com! Take a look at them below and start thinking about old games you used to enjoy, perhaps they'll make a comeback someday! There's a lot of hidden treasure in the hills of old diskettes left over in the past twenty years of computer games - can you think of any games from the past that deserve an modern update? Let us know! Cameron D. THE LATEST AT HOTGAMES.com: 1. PRINCE OF PERSIA 3D 2. BATTLEZONE II 3. DISCIPLES: SACRED LANDS 4. MADDEN NFL 2000 1. PRINCE OF PERSIA 3D The long-awaited sequel to one of the best action / adventure games of the early 90's is here at Hotgames.com! Has modern life spoiled the Prince's naive charms? We say it like we see it here... http://www.hotgames.com/games/prince/review.htm 2. BATTLEZONE II This is more than just a sequel to Atari's classic arcade game - it's a complete re-working of the concept with hundreds of new additions to the formula! Is it any good, though? Read our review to find out! http://www.hotgames.com/games/battl13/review.htm 3. DISCIPLES: SACRED LANDS This game is all about Holy wars and all the related magic- using, demon-slaying, resource-managing shenanigans that go along with it. Sounds good? Only Hotgames.com will tell you what side to take... http://www.hotgames.com/games/discip/review.htm 4. MADDEN NFL 2000 Another year, another Madden franchise! At a time when new NFL games are a dime a dozen, EA Sports take the grand old man of gridiron out on the field one more time - we've got the test results in our brand new review and playable demo! http://www.hotgames.com/games/madden3/review.htm Until we see Pong 2000... Cameron D. editor@hotgames.com To unsubscribe to Coolnews send an email message to coolnews-request@hotgames.com with the word unsubscribe in the subject field. [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM Did you just dig up your old issus of egm for that? I think I throw away all my old mags when I had to move. Well I remember Monaco gp and street fighter had some 10 ratings, not all 4 10 but 1 or 2. Well I did not read tha article about egm being more leanient on their ratings. still I'm surprise to see 4 10. Some of the best games didn't even get a 10. Gran Turismo, FF7,8 , Resident Evil 2. - -Vi > Soul Calibur, Zelda 64, and Metal Gear Solid are all I know. > > In EGM issue November 1990, Super Monaco GP (Genesis) got a 9, 10, 9, 10 from > Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > In EGM issue 36, Street Fighter 2 (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from Steve > Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > In EGM issue 50, Street Fighter 2 Turbo (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from > Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:34:37 EDT From: TreyDX@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM In a message dated 99-08-31 11:25:44 EDT, you write: > Did you just dig up your old issus of egm for that? I think I throw away > all my old mags when I had to move. Well I remember Monaco gp and street > fighter had some 10 ratings, not all 4 10 but 1 or 2. > Well I did not read tha article about egm being more leanient on their > ratings. still I'm surprise to see 4 10. > Some of the best games didn't even get a 10 Gran Turismo, FF7,8 , > Resident Evil 2. > > -Vi I didn't have to dig. They have been cataloged a long time ago. All in order on my magazine shelves. Trey [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:24:34 -0400 From: "Nev Jr." Subject: Re: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM yeah I have a subscription to EGM, and like I said, it's a brand new system, the most powerful system available now, coming in at a VERY affordable price, it is the first system to have a modem built in, and 19 tittles available at launch, if you don't think thats something for a "game" magazine to talk about then, I don't know what is.... so yeah just like when any other system launches they will talk about it alot, it's not just a game.. Just like I'm pretty sure they will sweet the PSX2, and Dolphin before they launch...and about the game (soul calibur), your still making excuses as to why they gave it a perfect 10.. you have not played the dreamcast (american at least) version so you can't complain about the score yet.. it's funny to see how some of you are so against the dreamcast, I like all systems and plan to get them all if I have the money to.. Wez wrote: > Do you actually read EGM? I do, and completely agree with what Eddy said. Please > correct me if I'm mistaken, but I seem to recall Eddy as being someone who wasn't > one of the system biased members of the list...he was just telling it like it is. > > Nev Jr. wrote: > > > how bout "not very surprising" considering the dreamcast is the most powerful > > console out right now.. Why is it so hard for you to accept that the game just > > may be a great game.. is your bias that bad against sega that you make up > > excuses as to why it got a perfect score.. ? > > > > Nev.. > > > > Eddy Wu wrote: > > > > > Not very surprising, considering how EGM has been raving about the DC in the > > > past few issue. Also, Mario and the PSX launch titles were before EGM > > > revised the rating system to be a tad more lenient. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vi On > > > To: n64 > > > Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:43 PM > > > Subject: [N64] Dreamcast game gets perfect score in EGM > > > > > > > > > > >The only game for psx and n64 that got perfect score was MGS and zelda. > > > >I didn't expect a first generation game to get perfect score. > > > >Soul Calibur = 10,10,10,10 > > > > > > > > > > > >Other great scoring games include Ready 2 rumble and Sonic adventure. > > > > > > > >-Vi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:46:16 -0400 From: "Nev Jr." Subject: Re: [N64] perfect score in EGM I agree with that too.. I think FF7, and gran turismo probaly were up there with deserving beter scores.. and me personaly, don't get me wrong, I liked metal gear solid, but a perfect score I would not have given it.. Zelda 64, yup, and I would have thrown Goldeneye in there too along with Mario.. Nev.. Vi On wrote: > Did you just dig up your old issus of egm for that? I think I throw away > all my old mags when I had to move. Well I remember Monaco gp and street > fighter had some 10 ratings, not all 4 10 but 1 or 2. > Well I did not read tha article about egm being more leanient on their > ratings. still I'm surprise to see 4 10. > Some of the best games didn't even get a 10. Gran Turismo, FF7,8 , > Resident Evil 2. > > -Vi > > > Soul Calibur, Zelda 64, and Metal Gear Solid are all I know. > > > > In EGM issue November 1990, Super Monaco GP (Genesis) got a 9, 10, 9, 10 from > > Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > > > In EGM issue 36, Street Fighter 2 (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from Steve > > Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > > > In EGM issue 50, Street Fighter 2 Turbo (Super NES) got 9, 10, 9, 10 from > > Steve Harris, Ed Semrad, Martin Alessi, and Sushi-X respectively. > > > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:06:37 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... I think they were rendered on workstations to look like Dreamcast games. That's what I heard. Dexter TreyDX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/30/99 4:23:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > > > By the way, you remember the big stink about the millions being spent on > > marketing for this console? Where are they? I RARELY see game ads or > > commercials for Dreamcast on TV. Shouldn't they be advertising on TV? I > > know the commercials are out there, but not in very many spots. > > > > Enough babble.. > > > > -John > > Wait until you see the new commercials. The ones that were made on Dreamcast > hardware. > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:12:44 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Shadowman Hmmm... The price issue is an interesting one. I think there's no denying N64 games are on average about $10 more expensive that PSX games. But I wouldn't consider it to be the only issue. The SNES cartridge games were consistently more expensive than its Genesis counterparts, (anyone remember the Sega ads blasting SNES games that costs more? ) but that did not stop people from buying them. N64 software, per capita, sells quite well so I'm not entirely sure what this whole thread is leading. There's a lot of factors to consider. I generally go for the originals when N64 ports are made, but when I see a clearly version superior on the N64, i won't hesitate buying it. As for Xenogears being Zelda quality, that game is a fave of mine just because I'm a big Evangelion fan and the game clearly takes influence from that series. But Zelda quality it is not. Dexter TreyDX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:18:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > johng@engberganderson.com writes: > > > Oh, come on... you say that Shadowman would have to be of "Zelda or > > Goldeneye quality" for you to consider purchasing it... then you go on to > > lament the price differential between N64 and PSX games... > > For $60 yes. I have never paid $60 for a 32-Bit game. (Not including imports, > which doesn't count) The most I ever paid for a 32-Bit game was Xenogears > ($46.99) which is of Zelda quality I assure you. > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:23:02 -0700 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Sega is brilliant... Oh, I see Trey is going for the Jugular :oD VB is often a good excuse people use to show Nintendo isn't perfect, and they are right, nintendo isn't perfect. But put Nintendo's track record side by side with Sega's and I can absolutely understand why there are many people who prefer Nintendo. We can all agree that Nintendo has done some pretty good things to its consumers despite the common complaint that it delays the shit out of its products. Being a technical person, Nintendo's resourcefulness when it comes to extending a console's lifespan is pretty amazing to me. They can take a peripheral like the RAM expansion that might only do OK in the open market, and take full advantage of it by packing it in with a big seller and making it work exclusively with a "killer-app". Same thing with the rumble pak, and the FX chip, the MMC chips and the list goes on. All this of course, lessens the need for add-ons and in the end, consumers don't feel ripped off from buying something they don't feel is being pused to the max. Anyways, my 2 cents on the track record issue. But Sega has changed so much since its 16-bit days it would be unfair for me to hold thier track record against them. However, The casual gamers might not know any better. Dexter TreyDX@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/30/99 8:31:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jcarson@comp.uark.edu writes: > > > Obviously you dot understand. I would definitely lean towards a brand > > whose previous model was not a flop. I wont just jump into the PSX, but I > > would be more willing to buy Sony than Sega. Get it? > > > > But you bough an N64 when the Virtual Boy was a flop. Is there something I'm > not getting here? > > Trey > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of n64-digest V1 #860 ************************* [ To quit the n64-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe n64-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]