From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #977 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Wednesday, November 10 1999 Volume 01 : Number 977 RE: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Getting away from the Tri-Force RE: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Mircrosquish Re: [N64] Getting away from the Tri-Force Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] X-box RE: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:27:52 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Sheesh Dave/Trey... you're OK with videogame history and current events, but you're pretty clueless about computer history and current events. In 1977, the year Microsoft was founded, Apple was already setting the standard for these newfangled "personal computers" with the Apple II series. I won't even mention the fact that the Lisa and then the Macintosh brought the whole GUI concept into the mainstream, well before Windholes was even at version 1.0. It took Microsoft until 1995 to get certain GUI concepts right that Apple had right from the beginning, hence all the t-shirts in 1995 that said "Windows95 = Macintosh87." And they *still* haven't really gotten some of it right, even with their 30,000 employees and billions in the bank. Go figure. The Windows 95/98/NT 4.0 interface is still an ugly, ugly mess, compared with the simple, easy-to-use elegance of the MacOS. Anyway, there are plenty of resources online where you could find a decent "computer history timeline," to fill in these apparent gaps in your knowledge. "When did Apple rise before," indeed... JG -----Original Message----- From: TreyTable@aol.com [mailto:TreyTable@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:18 PM To: n64@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. In a message dated 99-11-09 18:48:27 EST, you write: > What would the implications of microsoft folding be anyway? Also, do > any of you see a rise in the apple computer again? When exactly did Apple rise before? This is a serious question. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads Isn't that $6 billion warchest everybody's talking about just about run out. On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote: > According to Nintendo's vice president of marketing George Harrison, > the > company will not be pulling any stops when it comes to > positioning its > next-generation hardware, codenamed Dolphin, and 2000 > software > line-up. The console and its software, which Nintendo > insists will launch in time for the holiday season 2000, will be backed > by considerable advertising and brand recognition campaigns. A 10% > increase in money flow will be devoted to the marketing of Dolphin and > the firm's 2000 lineup -- or, in cold cash terms, $250 million. > > Comparatively, Sega shelled out roughly $100 million > to kick off the > launch of its Dreamcast in the US. The fact that > Nintendo anticipates > spending $150 million more for its next-generation > hardware and line-up, well, speaks for itself. > > >From ign64.com > > -------------- > > Two things > > A. Nintendo is giving out what its marketing department is projecting > how much it will cost to market Dolphin , but Dolphin will still likely > launch in 2001 > > B. Its really going to hit in 2000 and Nintendo's got third parties > signing non disclosure agreements up to wazoo. > > ** Also note Dolphin and Nintendo 2000 line up, which could mean N64 > titles as well. This gets kind of tricky. I don't want to jump in and > make some gung ho analysis of that last bit, so we'll have to wait. > > Sai Dekisuta > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads Isn't that $6 billion warchest everybody's talking about just about run out. On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote: > According to Nintendo's vice president of marketing George Harrison, > the > company will not be pulling any stops when it comes to > positioning its > next-generation hardware, codenamed Dolphin, and 2000 > software > line-up. The console and its software, which Nintendo > insists will launch in time for the holiday season 2000, will be backed > by considerable advertising and brand recognition campaigns. A 10% > increase in money flow will be devoted to the marketing of Dolphin and > the firm's 2000 lineup -- or, in cold cash terms, $250 million. > > Comparatively, Sega shelled out roughly $100 million > to kick off the > launch of its Dreamcast in the US. The fact that > Nintendo anticipates > spending $150 million more for its next-generation > hardware and line-up, well, speaks for itself. > > >From ign64.com > > -------------- > > Two things > > A. Nintendo is giving out what its marketing department is projecting > how much it will cost to market Dolphin , but Dolphin will still likely > launch in 2001 > > B. Its really going to hit in 2000 and Nintendo's got third parties > signing non disclosure agreements up to wazoo. > > ** Also note Dolphin and Nintendo 2000 line up, which could mean N64 > titles as well. This gets kind of tricky. I don't want to jump in and > make some gung ho analysis of that last bit, so we'll have to wait. > > Sai Dekisuta > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:09:50 EST From: "Justin Smith-Williams" Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads My friend do ye not know that each year Nintendo continues to make atleast a couple billion dollars.That warchest will probaly not ever run out because when they release a good game it sells like crazy all over the world.Never underestimate Nintendo's wallet. >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com >To: n64@lists.xmission.com >CC: N64 mailing list >Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) > > >Isn't that $6 billion warchest everybody's talking about just about run >out. > > >On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote: > > > According to Nintendo's vice president of marketing George Harrison, > > the > > company will not be pulling any stops when it comes to > > positioning its > > next-generation hardware, codenamed Dolphin, and 2000 > > software > > line-up. The console and its software, which Nintendo > > insists will launch in time for the holiday season 2000, will be backed > > by considerable advertising and brand recognition campaigns. A 10% > > increase in money flow will be devoted to the marketing of Dolphin and > > the firm's 2000 lineup -- or, in cold cash terms, $250 million. > > > > Comparatively, Sega shelled out roughly $100 million > > to kick off the > > launch of its Dreamcast in the US. The fact that > > Nintendo anticipates > > spending $150 million more for its next-generation > > hardware and line-up, well, speaks for itself. > > > > >From ign64.com > > > > -------------- > > > > Two things > > > > A. Nintendo is giving out what its marketing department is projecting > > how much it will cost to market Dolphin , but Dolphin will still likely > > launch in 2001 > > > > B. Its really going to hit in 2000 and Nintendo's got third parties > > signing non disclosure agreements up to wazoo. > > > > ** Also note Dolphin and Nintendo 2000 line up, which could mean N64 > > titles as well. This gets kind of tricky. I don't want to jump in and > > make some gung ho analysis of that last bit, so we'll have to wait. > > > > Sai Dekisuta > > > > > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > >sx > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:54:39 EST From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. In a message dated 99-11-10 09:29:06 EST, you write: > Anyway, there are plenty of resources online where you could find a decent > "computer history timeline," to fill in these apparent gaps in your > knowledge. "When did Apple rise before," indeed... > > JG Excuse me for not knowing. Geeze, it's a bit before my time. I'm terribly sorry that I spent the late 70s & early 80s with the only things on my mind being Atari, Lego, and Transformers. ;) Yes I am pretty clueless about personal computer history. Your information was really helpful, but the tone of your reply seemed a bit hostile. So what's a GUI? Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:12:46 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Finger Subject: Re: [N64] Getting away from the Tri-Force On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Eddy Wu wrote: > I don't think this is something you have to worry about. I remember hearing > that you can purchase more time or something, and I think it will end up > working something like the rupee system, where you do have to save them up, > but given enough time you can buy anything you want. Um.. let me try to > explain better. If you wanted to buy something for 500 rupees, but you only > had 300, it was only a matter of going to a regenerating rupee spot and > slowly gathering rupees. It wasn't like you might have to accomplish some > difficult task to earn the rupees. I think that will be pretty much the way > it works with time and Gaiden. Of course, this is entirely speculation. Have Ah yes, i keep forgetting, like all other acts of nature, a catastrophic decay of the moon's orbit can be counteracted by a bribe. Say what???? I'm wondering wha the local millionaires are doing sitting ontheir butts while you're running around scraping up spare change. The rich and powerful can be blind to a lot of problems, thinking that they don't really apply to them, but a moon falling on your head?? =) - -------------------------------------------------------------- Scars of pleasure Scars of pain Atmospheric changes Make them sensitive again - --Rush [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:19:47 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. > Your information was really helpful, but > the tone of your reply seemed a bit hostile. Yeah, well, we Mac users are a sensitive lot. As you might be if your fave company or technology had been among the first and most notable victims of Microsoft's heavy-handed anti-competitive tactics. I guess that's a semi-apology and semi-explanation. > I'm terribly sorry that I spent the late > 70s & early 80s with the only things on my > mind being Atari, Lego, and Transformers. ;) Hey, I was right there with you. Until I got my hands on an Apple II in a school lab in around 1981... > So what's a GUI? Graphical User Interface. Mouse, icons, menu bars, pointer, desktop, etc. JG [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:20:12 -0800 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Finger To: Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. > > In my opinion, Intel is the one that needs to be watched. Then again, the > > government needs to butt out. Most of the justice department hasn't a clue > > about tech and shouldn't be depended upon to determine the future of > > anything tech-based. > > Well teh whole idea of capitalism is that all companies/products will > compete fairly and the best/most efficient companies will prosper. What's > his name ("the invisible hand" guy who started the whole thing) either did > not forsee or did not take into account that companies will lie cheat and > steal to gain or hold onto market share, despite the fact that it works > against the ideals of capitalism. > > Given that we've decided that we want to live in a free market system > (except not really, we'll still set tarriffs on foreign goods and such) we > need a way to make companies stick to these ideals. For better or worse > the only people with the authority to do this and have even a pretense of > impartiality is the government. I was referring to Intel's strong-arm tactics to keep mainboard manufacturers from producing mainboards compatible with AMD's products. Sure, these companies can produce AMD compatible mainboards but Intel has strongly hinted that if they do that they can expect to be placed on the bottom of Intel's list for recieving information and prototypes for developing future mainboards for Intel CPUs. Intel has also begun work to move into other hardware areas, such as sound, graphics, I/O, etc built into future CPUs cutting out the need for 3rd party devices. They're not there yet and may not accomplish what they desire (their attempts at 3D graphics have sucked so far) but the point is, they are attempting to do so. They want to be the single source for everything hardware inside your PC. Geoff [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:20:28 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Finger Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 TreyTable@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-11-10 09:29:06 EST, you write: > > > Anyway, there are plenty of resources online where you could find a decent > > "computer history timeline," to fill in these apparent gaps in your > > knowledge. "When did Apple rise before," indeed... > > > > JG > > Excuse me for not knowing. Geeze, it's a bit before my time. I'm terribly > sorry that I spent the late 70s & early 80s with the only things on my mind > being Atari, Lego, and Transformers. ;) > > Yes I am pretty clueless about personal computer history. Your information > was really helpful, but the tone of your reply seemed a bit hostile. So > what's a GUI? A GUI is a Graphical User Interface. An inferior mode of interacting with a computer compared to the glory of text based OSs like Linux ;) GUIs were first developed by Xerox, then Apple stole it from Xerox, then Windows stole it from Apple =) - -------------------------------------------------------------- If we need too much attention Not content with being cool We must throw ourselves wide open And start acting like a fool If we need too much approval Then the cuts can seem too cruel - --Rush [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:33:21 -0800 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [N64] Mircrosquish - ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Finger To: Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [N64] Mircrosquish > On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, [iso-8859-1] Johno wrote: > And in an attempt to make this have something to do with games, what do > you all think of Window's up and comign system? (winbox? x-box? my mind > for soem reason is blanking on the name) > > Personally i'm hoping it crashes and burns. I think Sega Sony and Nintendo > are aenough to keep us occupied, i don't really want to have to deal with > a 4th system that i need to keep track of and possibly buy if it comes out > with a really good RPG. > > Fortunatly, i don't see any real way Microsoft can use it's monopoly on > this one. It certainly can't blackmail the big three in any way. (But > then, i'm not microsoft, let's see if they come up with any briliant > sneaky moves) I think the X-Box is a good idea but then I'm an avid PC gamer. I upgrade my PC every 18 months or so because of games. Rarely is it the case that I need a new computer because of my OS or applications. If I can buy an X-Box for $300 just for games the lifetime of my PC is extended greatly, maybe another 12 months if not more. Overall, this will save me money. The X-Box also gurantees developers a closed-box standard. They don't have to worry about the many different possible PC hardware configurations which means that they can fully optimize the games for the features of the hardware inside the X-Box. With this deal my costs are down I get a better PC gaming experience. Sounds good to me... Geoff [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:16:57 EST From: TreyTable@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Getting away from the Tri-Force In a message dated 99-11-10 15:17:17 EST, you write: > Ah yes, i keep forgetting, like all other acts of nature, a catastrophic > decay of the moon's orbit can be counteracted by a bribe. Say what???? Yeah, didn't you know that? I thought that was common knowledge. The local millionarire must be too busy betting on Goron races. Dave [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:50:42 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. N64 gamers are like the Mac users of the console world ;-) - -----Original Message----- From: John Goelzer To: 'n64@lists.xmission.com' Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:20 PM Subject: RE: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. >> Your information was really helpful, but >> the tone of your reply seemed a bit hostile. > >Yeah, well, we Mac users are a sensitive lot. As you might be if your fave >company or technology had been among the first and most notable victims of >Microsoft's heavy-handed anti-competitive tactics. I guess that's a >semi-apology and semi-explanation. >JG [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:51:47 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Not to start a system war or anything, but you must have had lots of fun gaming on your Apple/Mac. Those 1-2 year lag times behind PCs for games must have been very pleasant. - -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Winters To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:27 AM Subject: Re: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. >on 9/11/99 1:38, Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr. at mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu wrote: > >> I just hope that when the judge issues his order and Microsoft still >> dominates not because of anti-competitive practices(which it will >> discontinue) but because people PREFER MICROSOFT products, other software >> firms won't come crying to the Justice Dept >> >Wow you are seriously deluded if you think people prefer MS products :) >I would imagine that the majority of home PC owners are relative newbies to >computing and office PCs are there because of management rather than user >choice, simply because if they did have any experience they would choose >anything over a PC. I'm sure you can come up with a list of reasons why a >person should choose a PC ( such as games, commercial software etc) but at >the end of the day my Mac outshines on all fronts. I'm 32 years old and have >been involved with computing and gaming for over 20 years ( I well remember >the TIME article about the young Bill Gates making his first million and >watched with joy as Woz and Jobs developed the Apple in their garage and >bought an Apple IIe when it first arrived) and using Windows makes me gag. >Remember the technically inferior VHS beat out the superior Betamax for the >home market and yet Beta is still in use by all major TV and movie studios >as the preferred format for storage. >Garrett [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:55:15 -0500 From: "Eddy Wu" Subject: Re: [N64] X-box That's if you believe that the X-box will really have a "closed-box standard." Let me remind you, this thing is Microsoft's brainchild, and the primary purpose of it is to promote their DirectX API for games. The theory is that if the Xbox is basically a PC, then DirectX games can be ported over from the PC almost immediately. However, the companies that will actually be making the system, Dell and Gateway, reportedly, are PC makers. There's no chance in hell that they will make a closed-box standard. It might be a little better than the PC situation today, as in all the components will be standard, but my guess is that they'll release a new upgraded X-box at least once a year, if not more. >I think the X-Box is a good idea but then I'm an avid PC gamer. I upgrade >my PC every 18 months or so because of games. Rarely is it the case that I >need a new computer because of my OS or applications. If I can buy an X-Box >for $300 just for games the lifetime of my PC is extended greatly, maybe >another 12 months if not more. Overall, this will save me money. The >X-Box also gurantees developers a closed-box standard. They don't have to >worry about the many different possible PC hardware configurations which >means that they can fully optimize the games for the features of the >hardware inside the X-Box. With this deal my costs are down I get a better >PC gaming experience. Sounds good to me... > >Geoff [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:58:25 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. That's why I play the consoles, baby. Seriously, though, to each his own, but I realized after having my Mac for a few years (and playing endless hours of Myst, Dark Forces, Full Throttle, SimCity 2000, etc.) that I prefer the sitting-in-the-living-room-in-front-of-the-TV-with-friends vibe to the lone-gamer-hunched-over-a-keyboard-in-a-dark-room-lit-only-by-the-computer-m onitor vibe. I use my Mac for work (graphic design) and web surfing. I play games on game consoles. Simple, eh? JG -----Original Message----- From: Eddy Wu [mailto:glacion@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:52 PM To: n64@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. Not to start a system war or anything, but you must have had lots of fun gaming on your Apple/Mac. Those 1-2 year lag times behind PCs for games must have been very pleasant. - -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Winters To: n64@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:27 AM Subject: Re: ---Re: [N64] Microsoft's lawsuit. >on 9/11/99 1:38, Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr. at mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu wrote: > >> I just hope that when the judge issues his order and Microsoft still >> dominates not because of anti-competitive practices(which it will >> discontinue) but because people PREFER MICROSOFT products, other software >> firms won't come crying to the Justice Dept >> >Wow you are seriously deluded if you think people prefer MS products :) >I would imagine that the majority of home PC owners are relative newbies to >computing and office PCs are there because of management rather than user >choice, simply because if they did have any experience they would choose >anything over a PC. I'm sure you can come up with a list of reasons why a >person should choose a PC ( such as games, commercial software etc) but at >the end of the day my Mac outshines on all fronts. I'm 32 years old and have >been involved with computing and gaming for over 20 years ( I well remember >the TIME article about the young Bill Gates making his first million and >watched with joy as Woz and Jobs developed the Apple in their garage and >bought an Apple IIe when it first arrived) and using Windows makes me gag. >Remember the technically inferior VHS beat out the superior Betamax for the >home market and yet Beta is still in use by all major TV and movie studios >as the preferred format for storage. >Garrett [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:18:54 -0800 From: Dexter Sy Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads They have 5 billion in the Bank and no anti-trust suit :-) Dexter Justin Smith-Williams wrote: > My friend do ye not know that each year Nintendo continues to make atleast a > couple billion dollars.That warchest will probaly not ever run out because > when they release a good game it sells like crazy all over the world.Never > underestimate Nintendo's wallet. > > >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." > >Reply-To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >To: n64@lists.xmission.com > >CC: N64 mailing list > >Subject: Re: [N64] Quarter Billion For Dolpin Ads > >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) > > > > > >Isn't that $6 billion warchest everybody's talking about just about run > >out. > > > > > >On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote: > > > > > According to Nintendo's vice president of marketing George Harrison, > > > the > > > company will not be pulling any stops when it comes to > > > positioning its > > > next-generation hardware, codenamed Dolphin, and 2000 > > > software > > > line-up. The console and its software, which Nintendo > > > insists will launch in time for the holiday season 2000, will be backed > > > by considerable advertising and brand recognition campaigns. A 10% > > > increase in money flow will be devoted to the marketing of Dolphin and > > > the firm's 2000 lineup -- or, in cold cash terms, $250 million. > > > > > > Comparatively, Sega shelled out roughly $100 million > > > to kick off the > > > launch of its Dreamcast in the US. The fact that > > > Nintendo anticipates > > > spending $150 million more for its next-generation > > > hardware and line-up, well, speaks for itself. > > > > > > >From ign64.com > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > Two things > > > > > > A. Nintendo is giving out what its marketing department is projecting > > > how much it will cost to market Dolphin , but Dolphin will still likely > > > launch in 2001 > > > > > > B. Its really going to hit in 2000 and Nintendo's got third parties > > > signing non disclosure agreements up to wazoo. > > > > > > ** Also note Dolphin and Nintendo 2000 line up, which could mean N64 > > > titles as well. This gets kind of tricky. I don't want to jump in and > > > make some gung ho analysis of that last bit, so we'll have to wait. > > > > > > Sai Dekisuta > > > > > > > > > > > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > > > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > >sx > > > > > >[ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of n64-digest V1 #977 ************************* [ To quit the n64-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe n64-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]