From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 06:22:52 -0700 (PDT) sigh....Yeah, Moby is a big sell out. this was discussed on the list some time ago and it appears to be getting worse. I too was dismayed to see the Area One tour has such corporate sponsorship, but can't say I was that surprised. In Moby's defence tho' I am sure that he donated all his Calvin Klein money to homeless charities.....but he doesn't like to talk about it : ) What happened to the days when raves would steal corporate logo's and bastardize them for their flyers? "Menthol raver flavoured Tunes - Help you dance more easily" etc... later # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 09:09:56 -0500 (CDT) yeah, I'm a little disappointed. I would like to see Paul Oakenfeld and Moby and Orb (or just LX or whatever the hell is going on) but I dont think I'll pay for this. I was never heavily into Moby, but I like him and man I was so pissed at his MTV tour with Bush (Yeah, because they have such similar music styles). I paid for it anyway because I wanted to see Moby, but the show was terrible. This Area:One stuff is pure BS if you ask me. But no one did, I guess. Oh well. James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 10:20:33 -0400 (EDT) > Is anybody else getting sick and tired of Moby? I mean really... we > put up with him telling us meat is murder (I'm a vegetarian, so don't > flame me about meat), and that god is the only way to go....and we put > up with him playing rock and roll, but now??? what's going on here? I wanted to second this. But first! Preface! :) So I started listening to moby when I was in high school, like 1992/93 when he was doing things like Bring Back my Happyness. Borderline cheesy house music with nice piano hooks and dope underground techno a-la 'go'... Then came the animals album and after that I think moby's head disappeared up his arse. Did anyone read the interviews in which he ragged on orbital (and has since apologized, Mr. Too-Little-Too-Late)? To say nothing of his conversion to concert venues (along with the appropriate price changes and crowd changes; can't dance when you're crushed against 4,000 people), I can only give the Its Hard to Let You Go genius so much leighway. I also remember him preaching about how he never does drugs and everyone who does is bad, then later I remember reading about him talking about smoking pot at a show. Fucking hypocrite. O well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 May 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > I also remember him preaching about how he never does drugs and > everyone who does is bad, then later I remember reading about him > talking about smoking pot at a show. Fucking hypocrite. he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 11:59:19 -0400 : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. yeah, but who isn't ? :) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 12:00:32 -0400 (EDT) > : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. > yeah, but who isn't ? :) HAH! This is possibly the most amusing thing I've seen in 3 weeks at least. I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 13:35:13 -0400 : > : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. : > yeah, but who isn't ? :) : I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his : conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :) I know. And while Moby may be a hypocritical sell-out, I personally lost respect in his Music, first... then i lost respect for his beliefs. The thing about the area:one fest that gets me the most is the quote from Moby [and i'm paraphrasing]: "The music i listen to doesn't get enough exposure, so i figured i'd throw this festival..." Now please correct me in this... but, when did Oakie not get enough "exposure"? Since "the trance invasion" -- Paulie Girl has been a household name! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) moby Date: 01 May 2001 12:40:29 -0500 It would be sooooo funny if moby were a lurker on this list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 11:52:51 -0600 *Pointing at Moby* Look, it still thinks it is 1992. hee hee... "" wrote: > : > : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. > : > yeah, but who isn't ? :) > > : I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his > : conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :) > > I know. And while Moby may be a hypocritical sell-out, I personally > lost respect in his Music, first... then i lost respect for his beliefs. The > thing about the area:one fest that gets me the most is the quote from Moby > [and i'm paraphrasing]: "The music i listen to doesn't get enough exposure, > so i figured i'd throw this festival..." > > Now please correct me in this... but, when did Oakie not get enough > "exposure"? Since "the trance invasion" -- Paulie Girl has been a household > name! > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) moby Date: 01 May 2001 13:56:58 -0400 i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a different point of view and change his mind... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) moby Date: 01 May 2001 14:03:46 -0400 : It would be sooooo funny if moby were a lurker on this list. Moby, Pass that cheesburger and the bong, please! We'll run a train on those groupies after lunch. Your Pal, .xenlab. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby Date: 01 May 2001 14:07:16 -0400 : i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do : what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and : live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he : forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a : different point of view and change his mind... Yet the next album he'll have a rant against that very same activity in his linear notes. That, I believe, is my problem with him. And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard his Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque hooks. Probably his last solid musical release. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Brown" Date: 01 May 2001 18:16:00 -0000 hi everybody. Otis Brown here; aka Otep 147. I've just compiled some of my older Orb remixes that I've done myself on my web site at http://www.otep147.internetdj.com Remixes include new versions of "Montagne D'Or", "SALT", and "Slug Dub". Please drop me some e-mail and let me know what you think. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby Date: 01 May 2001 12:22:19 -0600 okay before this gets out of hand I will go on record as saying I appreciate the fact that Moby has talent. That is a given. I don't know why I don' t like him, I just don't never have. Although I will admit I did listen to "Move" alot when it came out. That is about the only song of his I can handle. 'bette "" wrote: > : i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do > : what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and > : live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he > : forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a > : different point of view and change his mind... > > Yet the next album he'll have a rant against that very same activity in > his linear notes. That, I believe, is my problem with him. > > And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard his > Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque hooks. > Probably his last solid musical release. > > > > : visual artist > : web producer > : www.thezenlab.com > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 13:47:36 -0500 Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently? I saw him at a local club on his last two tours (both times "free" on a two-drink voucher, that's how poorly the shows sold), and both times he closed the show with this RIDICULOUS "primal scream" performance, basically him standing on his keyboards and uttering this looooong, one-note shriek at the sky or the gods or whatever a Moby howls at. I can't for the life of me figure out how such a savvy* guy can not know how utterly stupid he looks doing this. I don't know if I've ever seen a more self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing act during a concert. Makes your average N-Stync seem like the kings of modesty and the consummate showmen. Also, might his "performance" on this tour simply consist of a long reel of TV commercials, movie soundtracks and videogames? Why not just release his next single straight to a commercial, know what I mean? And don't get me started on the evils of an Intel sponsorship... JG * "savvy" does not NECESSARILY mean "talented" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 15:00:19 -0400 you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we wasting time talking about Moby... especially on this list - common... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 14:01:42 -0500 Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently? ===>yes. twice. first time to just check it out the second time to just make sure i hadn't dreamt it. what a sad performance it was. i wondered if any of his "band" actually played instruments - for real. it looked like a high school air band contest with a really great light show and killer sound. and what the heck was up with the dj spinbad?? what a joke!!! i felt embarrassed for electronic music after seeing moby. the real sad part was that people actually liked it. my head in my hands. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 15:08:51 -0400 (EDT) > Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently? Yeah I saw him @ the hammerstein ballroom in NYC (I HATE HATE HATE that venue, but don't get me started on that...) about 5 or 6 months ago. It was the same sort of Moby-stroking-my-ego sort of performance. At one point he says "I've always wanted to play a 10 minute guitar solo at a concert, so now I will" and he does. It wasn't even particularly good, and all the other musicians just hung around waiting. He did live renditions of his house tracks that sucked, and the last song was Thousand, during which all the house lights were off except for about 30 colored flashing lights and a spot light all focused on him during the entire song. Plus he kind of held his arms up in a rapturous looking pose the whole time. Total slog. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: discussion control, was RE: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 15:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Why not? :) I mean, its more entertaining to me than the dead air that usually occupies the orb mailing list. :) > you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we wasting time talking > about Moby... especially on this list - common... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby Date: 01 May 2001 15:20:52 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 May 2001, wrote: > And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard > his Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque > hooks. Probably his last solid musical release. voodoo child was typically his more acid-tecno side project of his old days..._the end of everything_ is the only release in the style you describe. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 15:21:19 -0400 wo man! i wasn't trying to control anything. i was just pointing out the fact that we are talking about Moby. that to me is funny, since i have heard better sh*t on public access. can you really take any muscian seriously when he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't). anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i 've heard some wicked beats in their music... > Why not? :) I mean, its more entertaining to me than >the dead air >that usually occupies the orb mailing list. :) > >> you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we >wasting time talking >> about Moby... especially on this list - common... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Moby Date: 01 May 2001 15:24:28 -0500 Why all the Moby bashing? I actually kinda like the guy. Certainly better than all the drivel Madonna's been releasing over the past, um, TWO DECADES. A'hem.... ;-) (Sorry--haven't really pissed anyone off lately, so I figured I'd try again for old time's sake....) Hey--does anyone know anything about the group Global Dance Project??? I have two of their songs on two separate compilations, but can't seem to find any albums of theirs. "Khrishnamurti Groove" and "Japanese Cherry Blossoms" (or something like that) on two ambient groove compilations. (Journey Into Ambient Groove volumes 1 and 2. I'm still looking for 3 if anyone has any extras....) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 15:32:25 -0400 (EDT) > anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i > 've heard some wicked beats in their music... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 15:34:13 -0400 yea i know, i started thinking about it and realized i had spoke to soon... >Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have >graced their album covers: >--Peter Gabriel >--Frank Zappa >--The Beatles >--Devo >--Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath >--Donald Fagen >--Johnny Cash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Moby Date: 01 May 2001 15:35:56 -0400 i guess everyone tends to do that when they speak their minds... hey man, i like Madonna... >(Sorry--haven't really pissed anyone off lately, so I figured I'd >try again for old time's sake....) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 15:37:13 -0400 (EDT) > >Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have > >graced their album covers: Lets not forget aphex twin! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 15:42:11 -0400 he doesn't count :) >> >Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have >> >graced their album covers: > > Lets not forget aphex twin! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 14:44:04 -0500 >> Lets not forget aphex twin! :) > he doesn't count :) Nor does he know the alphabet. JG PS - :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wouter Bessels Subject: (orb) recordings of cydonia tour Date: 01 May 2001 21:57:21 +0200 Hi, This might be off-topic, but if anyone knows if there are recordings available from the current cydonia tour, please contact me off-list. Thanks ! Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 01 May 2001 16:59:15 -0400 Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD (elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ... I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something like that. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 17:02:09 -0400 : Maybe a top 40 band will sample the Orb, so they will get some airplay too. They've always gotten UK air play -- Top of the Pops Baby! Besides, Oakie doesn't produce enough *cough*good*cough* music to get radio play. the stuff he does produce isn't much of a hook to be considered Top 40... besides even fools who don't know the club scene know who oakenfold is. him and van dyk have been shoved down Mtv Culture's throught enougt to know. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 16:56:49 -0400 : can you really take any musician seriously when : he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't). That's a pretty poor qualifier... Everyone of Aphex Twin's albums has his face on them... in one form or another. He's obsessed with his face. Besides there are plenty others... Kruder & Dorfmiester appear on at least 2 of their album covers, etc. etc. However, I don't think anyone was coming down on you with any seriousness about trying to deter the group from discussing Moby at length... : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 16:15:12 -0500 > Kruder & Dorfmiester appear on at least 2 > of their album covers, etc. etc. Yeah, but wasn't one of those ("G-Stoned EP") actually taking the piss out of that old Simon & Garfunkel cover? Check: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=416612520/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/alb um.html/artistid=SIMON+&+GARFUNKEL/itemid=317044 and then: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=416612520/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/alb um.html/artistid=KRUDER+&+DORFMEISTER/itemid=462337 So maybe they're actually mocking the concept of artist-photo covers? Not that I'm personally down on them or anything... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 17:16:58 -0400 yea, i know that was a bad example... he must have loads of teeny-boppers following him :) >That's a pretty poor qualifier... > >Everyone of Aphex Twin's albums has his face on them... in one form or >another. He's obsessed with his face. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 17:19:25 -0400 (EDT) > Yeah, but wasn't one of those ("G-Stoned EP") actually taking the piss out > of that old Simon & Garfunkel cover? Yes. It was a parody. But they also had pix of themselves on their other 2 albums. :) > So maybe they're actually mocking the concept of artist-photo covers? Not > that I'm personally down on them or anything... Huh!? You don't like K&D?! They're amazing! I'm going to see them this sunday... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 16:22:43 -0500 > Huh!? You don't like K&D?! They're amazing! No, I do like them. Lots. In fact, I'm playing Fuck Dub by Tosca as I type this. I was saying that I'm personally not against the concept of artist-photo covers, but was just wondering about K&D's actual motives in doing that cover that way. > I'm going to see them this sunday... Lucky! JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 16:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Yeah, I felt *exactly* the same way. However, the very worst part was hearing Moby actually sing! What the hell? Moby going "MMM Lordy my troubles with god" is like imagining LX singing lovin you' after you've been used to Minnie for so long. *shudder* or saying to the crowd "they were long and clear and there were lots of starts at night" a la rickie lee jones (or whoever i dont want to start that debate i hit 'delete' enough times a day from the orb list :) On Tue, 1 May 2001, John Moxness wrote: > > Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently? > > ===>yes. twice. first time to just check it out the second time to just > make sure i hadn't dreamt it. what a sad performance it was. i wondered if > any of his "band" actually played instruments - for real. it looked like a > high school air band contest with a really great light show and killer > sound. and what the heck was up with the dj spinbad?? what a joke!!! i > felt embarrassed for electronic music after seeing moby. the real sad part > was that people actually liked it. my head in my hands. > > john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 01 May 2001 15:30:06 -0600 That would be "Simple Man" by the Fila boyz, xen. 'bette PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right? Aren't the other K&D titles compilations? "" wrote: > Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD > (elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ... > I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something > like that. > > > > : visual artist > : web producer > : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 17:31:31 -0400 (EDT) > : can you really take any musician seriously when > : he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't). Kraftwerk =P ---- Jeff A Klein Bottle has zero volume, so we suggest that you do not use it as a personal flotation device. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 01 May 2001 15:30:53 -0600 That would be "Simple Man" by the Fila boyz, xen. 'bette (resident Pork Recordings nutter...and yes, I know, they have their own label now) PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right? Aren't the other K&D titles compilations? "" wrote: > Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD > (elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ... > I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something > like that. > > > > : visual artist > : web producer > : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 16:34:44 -0500 > However, the very worst part was hearing Moby > actually sing! What the hell? Moby going > "MMM Lordy my troubles with god" is like > imagining LX singing lovin you' after you've > been used to Minnie for so long. If I'm not mistaken, the touring incarnation of the Art of Noise circa In Visible Silence (i.e. J.J., Anne, Gary) used to "sing" or speak their samples live, a very corny practice indeed... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 01 May 2001 16:37:49 -0500 > PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official > release, right? Aren't the other K&D titles > compilations? Well there's the K&D Sessions remix album, which was a compilation but was also an "official" album. Then, when sales of K&D Sessions really took off, some label (Shadow?) reissued Conversions, an old mix album they'd done, to ca$h in on their popularity. And then there's the various side-project material, from Peace Orchestra and the previously-mentioned Tosca... But the short answer is yes, in that G-Stoned is the only "official" K&D release with original tunes on it. When's the next one coming out??? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) attitude adjustment Date: 01 May 2001 14:37:47 -0700 hey kids! how about being grateful that you'll have a second chance to see our beloved Orb? i wouldn't care if the Orb were opening for the Backstreet Boys, providing I'd get to see the lads do their thing! (besides, Moby's deal is going to be WAY more together than Coachella, and no one says you have to watch his performance!) BTW, caught Fatboy Slim last night with Darren Emerson (formerly from the Underworld) who were both amazing and i highly recommend catching them if you're able... =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) attitude adjustment Date: 01 May 2001 16:42:02 -0500 > how about being grateful that you'll have a second > chance to see our beloved Orb? i wouldn't care if > the Orb were opening for the Backstreet Boys, > providing I'd get to see the lads do their thing! Witchman told me that in addition to the Moby opening dates, the Orb would do their own headlining swing back through the states (kinda like they did on Orblivion), which makes it much, much easier for me to blow off this Area:One mess. He specifically mentioned wanting to come back to Chicago and play the Metro again. Anyone figure out yet whether the Area:One thing is actual Orb Live or just LX spinning? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Coachella - Zeebruge... and Moby Date: 01 May 2001 23:44:53 +0200 Amazing how history repeats itself. 1996 : Been in Zeebruge (Belgium) to see The Orb live on a festival. The show lasts 20 minutes, the authorities shut down the speakers (the group was the last one to perform). I wrote to the Orb list how sad I was. Andy Hughes writes me back privately :) 2001 : Rachel in Coachella... Same thing, except it's Simon who answers her... And about the Moby thing : he's probably a prick, like most artists (Ralf and Florian from Kraftwerk, Michael Jackson, Prince comes to my mind). But some of his tracks are classic, but it's just my humble opinion. JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CarsTrucksBuses@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour Date: 01 May 2001 18:06:24 EDT whoawhoawhoa... the orb, juan atkins, derrik may, kevin saunderson AND paul oakenfold? thats insane! well worth the 80-90 bucks i'd say... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:19:20 -0400 Date: 01 May 2001 16:19:25 -0600 looks like we'll be seeing more music festivals like ozzfest and lollapoloza - but for electronic music... the Orb played lollapoloza when Prodigy and Tool headlined - they didn't come to Phoenix, though. The Orb hate Arizona... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Subject: Re: (orb) more Moby bashing Date: 01 May 2001 18:43:42 -0400 I *think* i might have seen moby live in 1995 or 96 when I saw Bjork at the Palace in New Haven, CT... this was my first ever exposure to live electronic music and whoever was the opening act (which, I hope was Moby cuz i can't stand that dork) had extremely terrible wannabe divas (with even worse lyrics), and just gave me an embarrassing peek into the whole "rave" scene.. is there a site that lists artists' peformance dates and locations?? please let it be moby - he just sucks so much ass! -andrew ps- bjork, however, was awesome... the old-dude drummer totally rocked out. I dunno why i never saw her during homogenic?? did she tour? I'm dumb! "Benjamin L. May" wrote: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) cheesburgers and groupies Date: 01 May 2001 16:06:09 -0700 a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies. Could we make that Thai food and groupies? Thank you! FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 01 May 2001 21:17:22 -0400 You have no idea how much that happens to me. "Great Beat!" And then they start singing. :( -- Justin Roby Original message: > From: "Benjamin L. May" > Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:32:25 -0400 (EDT) > To: "'ORB@LISTS.XMISSION.COM'" > Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control > > >> anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i >> 've heard some wicked beats in their music... > > > > :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: (orb) Orb show / San Francisco Date: 01 May 2001 18:21:48 -0700 Sorry for the late review, but... > The show in SF last night was great - pretty long set, although absolutely > nothing off Terrarvm or Orblivion. I think we heard almost all of the new > album (which was cool), but I would have preferred to hear a little more of > a variety of stuff from ALL the albums. Of course, you can't please everyone > all the time... I thought the show could have been a bit longer, but still, THEY FUCKING ROCKED THE JOINT!!!! ***** PHENOMONAL SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!! ****** Absolutely mad psychedelia!!!!!!! Wicked lights, great visuals - really loves the ones that accompanied Outlands: all sorts of different rollercoaster/train track/mine shaft/computer animation layered over eachother - very cool. The live versions of the songs were excellent too - ONCE MORE! OH MY GOD!!! The live version blew me away! Acapella / more spacy/ethereal vocal intro...then BOOM! Full on electro breakbeat attack! Put some serious energy into that previously poppy tune! With the intellibeams going off simultaneously, whew! Kicked ass! The whole freakin' show kicked ass!!! Alex looked like he was really enjoying himself, which was cool to see. I wanted to stoke him out with a spliff, but the crowds at this show, especially on the floor, were *immense.* I was SO GREATFUL for the phat balcony seats we had with a great view. If I was on the floor I think I would have gone mad! Freakin' packed down there it was!! But I still managed to spot ->Rachel with her blue sequined pants! Amazing! Hi Rachel! I was a bit diappointed by the shirt selection though - the cream colored Cydonia one is cool, but the rest were those freaky cyborg animals from the BadOrb site, and they only had smalls and some mediums of those as well. Pooey. All in all though it was a absolutely great performance! Had a blast... > Anyway, does anybody know if the show was taped? I would love to somehow get > this show on CDR or in MP3 format. I'm really hoping that one of the servers > will have this show on it before too long. If anybody knows anything about > this, please contact me off list. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!! Bring on the live recordings, folks! Don't be shy! Share that beauty with us all, not on private mail!!! PLEASE!!!! Feverishly awaiting the Cydonia tour live recordings, _jason_ -- Jason Green Apple Computer Inc. iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept. jgreen@apple.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) moby Date: 01 May 2001 18:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Moby IS a shameless sellout, however you got to think about the context that he is working in. Alot of people that listen to Moby haven't been exposed to very much electronic dance music, and I think that simply bringing that sound into the mainstream is a positive thing. Think about it this way, if you had a nine year old daughter would you rather she listen to the Backstreet Boys or Moby. Compared to all the crap out there Moby ain't that bad. I own Play and while alot of it sucks (i.e. Southside) some of the tracks sound pretty good in the middle of a set. P.S. thanks for reassuring me that I didn't miss anything in SF Rachel! ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Wallace" Subject: Re: (orb) moby Date: 01 May 2001 21:05:36 -0500 Hey, I would say bringing stuff like Moby's music to the mainstream is more of a mistake. I mean I see all these people saying they listen to some of the coolest electronica and so I take a listen, and it's something like the venga boys. They think that's what techno is, and always has been/will be. More music getting attention like Moby's will prob. just make a whole new generation of candy ravers, who if they listened to a lot more electronica that's out there (I.E. orb, FSOL, autechre, death in vegas, etc., etc.,) would prob. think it's just a bunch of crappy, pointless music. But then again I don't want all these bands that I love to stay somewhat underground, so they should be played instead of Moby, but the big money machines want something that is catchy and simple to play on all their ads. I guess in the end things will work themselves out, or else cheesy pop will continue to rule the masses... NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cygnus" Subject: Re: (orb) attitude adjustment Date: 01 May 2001 21:27:23 -0500 > Witchman told me that in addition to the Moby opening dates, the Orb would > do their own headlining swing back through the states (kinda like they did > on Orblivion), which makes it much, much easier for me to blow off this > Area:One mess. He specifically mentioned wanting to come back to Chicago and > play the Metro again. I sure as hell hope there is a swing back, with a stop in Austin, as was mentioned in a much earlier thread. Their Orblivion show at the music hall was awesome! From what I've heard about the other Cydonia shows (sans Coachella), I think they would rock the house! Here's to hoping they come! I'm spared the moral dilemma of deciding to fork over the cash for Area One, since it doesn't seem to be coming anywhere near Texas (at least last time I checked). I won't check again, lest I be forced to decide! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Brown" Subject: (orb) Moby's sorry ass Date: 02 May 2001 03:51:37 -0000 Speaking as someone who has followed Moby's exploits from the beginning, I must say that I am a bit confused by this whirlwind of success. It seems to contradict the point of why he started. He wanted to make something new; fresh and original; something for the underground kids to get into. Now, it's not made especially for them, but for bubbly sorority girls and their keg pumping yahoo boyfriends whooping it up at Spring Break. The point was lost in the midst of some MTV-inflated ego trip. Moby still puts on an air that he's just a timid, humble guy collecting records somewhere. But beneath all that pretentious post punk pseudo-intellectual bulls**t he spews out of his word hole is the realization that he's a hack; a fraud. ...People fail to realize that Moby's been using the same equipment on his album since 1993. The only difference that made "Play" work was adding those blues loops. The rest was just good marketing. You get one hit that takes off ["Bodyrock" was first]. Then push the artist to market the others in a way that would grab the attention of a public with a poor attention span via commercials. Maybe Moby meant in the beginning when making "Play". But once the first single started to pick up, he treated his music not as art, but as a commodity to be sold like those cool new running shoes or that intense minty gum on the TV ads. The public hears it on the TV and then on the radio. Then in the mall at their favortie clothing store. Then, they think, "Wow! This must be something hip. Maybe I should buy a copy and see what the craze is about. Maybe I'll be or at least feel hip." Perfect plan. Popularity through ominpresence. Shove it down their throats and they've eventually roll over and buy it; maybe even learn to like it. Most musicians have some sort of a message in their music. Moby sure had one alright. It wasn't a message that benefits his artistic integrity. It conveys that selling yourself can always make you a great deal of money, even if any knuckle headed kid in Jncos zooted on ecstacy off the street can take his place easily. He should know that anyone can do what he does with the right equipment and the right people behind him. This rings true of many other pop stars [i.e.-- Dr. Dre, Limp Bikzit, The Backsync Degrees, Britney Aguilera [a deliberate mistake to prove there's no difference in the two], Ricky Martin]. It just reenforces that hollow nature of the music industry. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Brown" Subject: (orb) moby Date: 02 May 2001 04:03:55 -0000 I must say that his stuff between "Ambient" and "Animal Rights" is interesting. It's just a shame that he had to sell out like that. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) moby (fwd) Date: 02 May 2001 12:21:49 +0800 (WST) : I must say that his stuff between "Ambient" and "Animal Rights" is : interesting. It's just a shame that he had to sell out like that. that includes the alt.quiet.version of Hymn, doesn't it? i got that by accident when i intended to buy the Hymn single - not the sort of mix-up i cared about very much because it's a really nice version, at least 30 beatless minutes of pulsing drones, ghostly choirs and voices. good stuff! i used to like that 'feeling so real' song but it seems very overblown to me now. still have something of a soft spot for 'Go' since it's on one of the first techno CDs i ever bought - but his newest stuff on 'Play' isn't particularly inspiring. funny thing i noticed the other day: the Prodigy did three albums (four if you count the Dirtchamber Sessions DJ set) and then for all intents and purposes fell off the face of the earth once they got really popular (and - coincidentally - at the same time that they said that ravers were a pack of stoned bastards you could please by playing dripping water to and also when Liam Howlett lost his ability to program decent drums). and now consider the Orb vis-a-vis the Prodigy: it's cause for some amusement considering they've been around about as long as the other and the Orb is still going strong. not to want to be ageist or anything but perhaps it had something to do with Dr Pat's being a bit older and mellower than a lot of the folks in the electronic music scene when the Orb were just getting started that has made them such a durable and excellent group. -- Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sleepyBrett Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 01 May 2001 21:35:47 -0700 what the hell is the threshhold for "excessive quoted text" on this list... im sick of getting bounces ... anyways here was my reply to the recent moby bashing: I seem either to be in a minority here or a silent majority. I think play is a great album. let me say that again. i think play is a great album. one of the best to come out in it's year. Let me also be clear that up to play, besides ambient which i think is .. decent, i havent liked any of mobys stuff. I am also not vegan, nor am i anti-drug, nor am i christian. to "sell out" it's something one hears alot. I personally, don't think moby has sold out quite yet. yasee i dont belive that he made play with the express idea to spew it far and wide on every commercial that came along. i think it was a great album. i think it contained some brilliant tracks. i think alot of other people think that too. i think pepsi (or whoever) has a fuckload of money. i think moby would be stupid not to take it. if he writes his next album withthe express intent on creating tired pop songs that will sell well to commercials and radios. well then maybe he has sold out. did alex sell out when LFC ended up on the commercials it did. hell no .. he took a check and said 'thanks'. every artist wants to create first and foremost. if people like their work, and want to pay them for it... well it's all cake. as far as moby and his stated beliefs and his subsiquent hypocracy... well .. whatever, havent you ever known anyone who changed? myself ive known quite a few who have crossed the line from herbavore to carnivore in the last few years. ive known people who have had a falling out with their belief structure. i dont think its uncommon. think about it this way .. you see a celebrities life, or really most peoples lives, as discreet slices in time. moby is a vegan. moby eats a hamburger. moby has a whole swath of time between the two events. maybe he decided he wasnt getting enough protein or iron in his diet between those events. maybe he just decided that cow is tasty. he had time to think about that and work it through for him. i really dont think its for any of you to judge him. *sigh* here's to hoping lx comes back around for a second leg .. the fucking gorge sucks.Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:30:26 -0700 (PDT) ** Friday August 3, 5:00pm at The Gorge ** Moby, New Order, Outkast, The Roots, Rinocerose, The Orb, Paul Oakenfold, Carl Cox, Timo Maas Tickets on sale at all outlets and online tomorrow (Sat) at 1:00pm. Cost is $60.90 plus $8.20 (dis)service charge per ticket, 50 cents per ticket for venue fee, and an overall $2.05 charge per order. You can purchase a maximum of 10 tickets at a time. _ b > From: "Otis Brown" > Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 04:03:55 -0000 > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (orb) moby > > > I must say that his stuff between "Ambient" and "Animal Rights" is > interesting. It's just a shame that he had to sell out like that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 02 May 2001 00:42:45 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 May 2001, wrote: > Everyone of Aphex Twin's albums has his face on them... in one form or > another. He's obsessed with his face. Besides there are plenty > others... Kruder & Dorfmiester appear on at least 2 of their album > covers, etc. etc. neither selected ambient works albums do. you know, his GOOD albums. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) moby (fwd) Date: 02 May 2001 00:47:31 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 2 May 2001, Simon Bennett wrote: > that includes the alt.quiet.version of Hymn, doesn't it? i got that by > accident when i intended to buy the Hymn single - not the sort of > mix-up i cared about very much because it's a really nice version, at > least 30 beatless minutes of pulsing drones, ghostly choirs and > voices. good stuff! i've been looking for this forever - you lucky sod! i'll trade anyone a copy of some old rare moby, like, erm, the first UHF 12" for a copy of the "hymn" alt.quiet.version. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Brown" Subject: Re: (orb) moby Date: 02 May 2001 05:02:39 -0000 Touche, Brett. But only the next album will be the real truth of it. What goes into it and how he carries himself and that album will be the test; the real test of his integrity as an artist. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) moby moby moby moby moby moby moby moby moby moby moby moby Date: 02 May 2001 13:21:24 +0800 hey! has anyone noticed that if you take "moby" and rearrange it, add an "r" and remove the "m" and "y" then you have ORB??? wow! now, can we please all just drop it? LOVE KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) People on Album Covers Date: 01 May 2001 16:22:24 -0500 Meredith Justin wrote: > wo man! i wasn't trying to control anything. i was just pointing out the > fact that we are talking about Moby. that to me is funny, since i have heard > better sh*t on public access. can you really take any muscian seriously when > he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't). Wait a sec. I can name dozens of albums that have the artist on the cover and are way worth it! Just to start the First three Peter Gabriel records have his picture on it. And What about David Bowie(don't even think about knocking these two artists, they have been more influential in all kinds of music, just listen to Passion). And do not forget about the beloved Richard D. James, who's face has graced about every single one of his Aphex Twin covers (minus Selected Ambient Works vol 1-2, and Classics), not to mention his videos. Look at your collection... you'd be surprised. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) Area:One Date: 01 May 2001 22:44:18 -0700 Well, first off, I'm REALLY glad I didn't pay $350 to fly down to Coachella. That would have sucked (more than last week when I showed up for a Rocket From the Crypt gig at 12:15 and they were on the last song of their encore).Hmmm. I REALLY hope that the whole Orb is playing when the evil-empire festival comes to Vancouver. I would like another Orb experience, they haven't been here since the Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy tour in '95. Actually, I'll probably go regardless to see The Roots and my favourite band from grade nine, New Order. About Moby- his first album was good, then he sucked. And Intel is evil. If I see a blue guy, I will trip him and laugh. All my Macintosh-using cells are telling me not to go, but...I...must...see...LX! Is it really stupid expensive? That would suck too. Oh well, I can't complain too much, in the next two months I get to see Wagon Christ, Autechre, Tortoise and Air, maybe Radiohead (if it's not a million dollars) and maybe Stereolab (all according to Pollstar). Oh yeah, and for anyone who has listened to my streaming station, I actually changed it a bit (and there's more to come). I have the internet machine at work now, so I can waste time effectively instead of staring out the window. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) People on Album Covers Date: 02 May 2001 13:50:17 +0800 (WST) : And do not forget about the beloved Richard D. James, who's face has : graced about every single one of his Aphex Twin covers (minus Selected : Ambient Works vol 1-2, and Classics), not to mention his videos. i might go so far as to say there's a large amount of parody involved with Rich's album covers with respect to album covers of other photogenic people, personally. if that's not obvious enough from the Windowlicker cover, i don't know what'll drive it home.. the Orb don't get many photographs in their albums at all. there's Alex sitting in the lap of the Buddha as part of the ultraworld art, and then there's Alex (shaving) and Andy H in the Orblivion art.. i wouldn't have recognised either of them on the street until i grabbed the U F Off video.. :) -- Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) whining Date: 02 May 2001 01:50:20 -0400 (EDT) i think this list has the most thightarses of any list i'm on in terms of complaining about off-topic posts. hey, guess what? this is a mailing list, a discussion group. not all discussions stay on topic. if you don't like it, hit delete, instead of being a hypocrite and creating MORE off-topic posting (remember, you hate that). micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) whining - yeah! lets all whine! Date: 02 May 2001 14:10:46 +0800 well Im gonna be parani\oid and assume that this is directed to me: >i think this list has the most thightarses of any list i'm on in terms of >complaining about off-topic posts. hey, guess what? this is a mailing >list, a discussion group. not all discussions stay on topic. if you don't >like it, hit delete, instead of being a hypocrite and creating MORE >off-topic posting (remember, you hate that). whats a thightarse? i actually read all of the posts about moby, and i never said anything about off topic posting i love off topic posts! in fcat, this is one right now! tricky isn't it? if this is a discussion list i have just as much right to my opinion (ie drop moby) as anyone else does to post about moby, surely? my discussion point was that moby sucks, and that if you rearrange his name and add letters you get the name orb. i thought this was cool. or maybe i didn't. please don't call people hypocrites when they aren't. you hypocrite. the bottom line: lighten up buddy! just like you asked everyone else to do... tricky isn't it? love Kael p.s. flame wars are for losers! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: Re: (orb) attitude adjustment Date: 01 May 2001 23:56:33 -0400 "-> rachel" wrote: > how about being grateful that you'll have a second chance to see our > beloved Orb? i wouldn't care if the Orb were opening for the Backstreet > Boys, providing I'd get to see the lads do their thing! but don't you think that 70 - 90 dollars would be a bit much to spend when they will only be playing in a tent? > (besides, Moby's > deal is going to be WAY more together than Coachella, and no one says you > have to watch his performance!) oh yeah? and who says? > > BTW, caught Fatboy Slim last night with Darren Emerson (formerly from the > Underworld) who were both amazing and i highly recommend catching them if > you're able... formerly? when did this happen? Darren *was* underworlds new sound afaiac (heheh) -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) attitude adjustment Date: 02 May 2001 08:22:36 -0400 > From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" > Organization: Tenth Planet Media > Reply-To: djblue@graffiti.net > Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 23:56:33 -0400 > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) attitude adjustment >> BTW, caught Fatboy Slim last night with Darren Emerson (formerly from the >> Underworld) who were both amazing and i highly recommend catching them if >> you're able... > > formerly? when did this happen? Darren *was* underworlds new sound > afaiac (heheh) > -ben Unfortunately, Darren Emerson bowed out of Underworld sometime after the release of "Everything, Everything" (the live album) last year. Of course, as long as he keeps releasing stuff as good as Scorchio (w/Sasha), I'll be happy. Underworld have been performing without him, so Underworld is still going. But who knows what'll happen next? -- Justin Roby jroby@gwu.edu, mac.com roby.justin@verizon.net http://gwu.edu/~jroby "Anything the Wright Brothers can do, the Wrong Brothers can do. Right?" "Wrong!" -- The Three Stooges # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 08:25:53 -0400 > From: Simon Bennett > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:21:49 +0800 (WST) > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (orb) moby (fwd) > funny thing i noticed the other day: the Prodigy did three albums (four if > you count the Dirtchamber Sessions DJ set) and then for all intents and > purposes fell off the face of the earth once they got really popular (and > - coincidentally - at the same time that they said that ravers were a pack > of stoned bastards you could please by playing dripping water to and also > when Liam Howlett lost his ability to program decent drums). and now > consider the Orb vis-a-vis the Prodigy: it's cause for some amusement > considering they've been around about as long as the other and the Orb is > still going strong. This is sad, but only somewhat true. Considering that Maxim just put out a hip-hop album (Hell's Kitchen, which isn't bad), and that Leeroy left to focus on his "Longman" project (electro), it's not like they're not doing *anything*. Liam better get off his duff, though, since it's been a longer break between "Fat of the Land" and now than between "Music for the Jilted" and "FotL". There's also the fact that Prodigy was pretty much touring nonstop from about 1994 to 1999, right? That has to take a toll. Of course, by my math, that means that Orbital's album is on time (three years since "The Middle of Nowhere"), Underworld will be in overdue territory soon (live albums don't count, though the DVD might. Video editing is a lot of work!), and the Chemical Brothers will be in overdue-land soon (as shown by that Music:response ep they put out in the states, capitalizing on nearly three-year-old material). Moby, as well, is getting overdue--Play was from 1999 and we're still hearing about it, so that means a new album won't be for a while, esp. if he's still touring. When will we get an electronic band with the work ethic of the Ozric Tentacles, who seem to release some new material every year? Granted, some of it ends up dodgy at that pace... (that, and the fact that the Ozrics have a tendency to repeat themselves). -- Justin Roby jroby@gwu.edu, mac.com roby.justin@verizon.net http://gwu.edu/~jroby "Anything the Wright Brothers can do, the Wrong Brothers can do. Right?" "Wrong!" -- The Three Stooges # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 20:39:43 +0800 >This is sad, but only somewhat true. Considering that Maxim just put out a >hip-hop album (Hell's Kitchen, which isn't bad), and that Leeroy left to >focus on his "Longman" project (electro), it's not like they're not doing >*anything*. Liam better get off his duff, though, since it's been a longer >break between "Fat of the Land" and now than between "Music for the Jilted" >and "FotL". difference is that a lot of people actually cared and waited for FotL. now that they've faded out and had their run at being pop stars.. dunno. how bright does the future look for them? >There's also the fact that Prodigy was pretty much touring nonstop from >about 1994 to 1999, right? That has to take a toll. if that's the case.. erm.. they should have done a live album! yeah :) (jokes) >When will we get an electronic band with the work ethic of the Ozric >Tentacles, who seem to release some new material every year? Granted, some >of it ends up dodgy at that pace... (that, and the fact that the Ozrics have >a tendency to repeat themselves). if i ever get back into music, i'll do my best to try that :) the Orb were doing pretty well at that 'one album release per year' bit up until Orblivion, too, counting live/remix albums of course. Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) OT: Confield Date: 02 May 2001 08:44:50 -0400 (EDT) >Of course, by my math, that means that Orbital's album is on time (three years since "The Middle of Nowhere"), Underworld will be in overdue territory soon (live albums don't count, though the DVD might. Video editing is a lot of work!), and the Chemical Brothers will be in overdue-land soon... I don't know if it's on time or no not, but how about that new Autechre album ('Confield')....!?! Seems like they're going in a slightly different -and better- direction again. Some bits are hard to swallow, but hey, so is MLoL... ;-) Play it, and tell us what you think! Later all, Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 09:20:15 -0400 > From: Simon Bennett > Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:39:43 +0800 > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) > difference is that a lot of people actually cared and waited for FotL. now > that they've faded out and had their run at being pop stars.. dunno. how > bright does the future look for them? This is a good point. I mean, I'll buy a new Prodigy album (considering I went through the effort to pick up just about all their singles--I even have a white label of "Everybody In the Place" that includes "Rip Up the Soundsystem"), but their moment has passed, it would seem. > if that's the case.. erm.. they should have done a live album! yeah :) (jokes) Actually (joking aside) they should have. The one show I've seen, they tore the roof off the place (The Mayan in LA). A great deal of their stuff is better live--and some stuff (like "Rock & Roll," built around an Ultramagnetic MCs sample and a drum loop from Siouxsie and the Banshees' "Peekaboo") never appears anywhere because of licensing difficulties. In a way, they have released live material: "Electronic Punks" compiles some live footage with their videos up to "Poison". > if i ever get back into music, i'll do my best to try that :) the Orb were > doing pretty well at that 'one album release per year' bit up until > Orblivion, too, counting live/remix albums of course. True, and they even kept it up until "U.F. Off": Orblivion in '97, U.F. Off in '98, and they would have released Cydonia in '99, if the Universal/Polygram problems hadn't surfaced, right? Sheesh, if it weren't for the record company, we could have had at least another two Orb albums: Cydonia and whatever came after. Something like: what if we got Cydonia 1.0 and then an album that was more consistently in the realm of "Thursday's Keeper," "Hamlet of Kings," etc.? Less griping about Cydonia, certainly. Perhaps that other album would be closer to the live show in sound? -- Justin Roby jroby@gwu.edu, mac.com roby.justin@verizon.net http://gwu.edu/~jroby "Anything the Wright Brothers can do, the Wrong Brothers can do. Right?" "Wrong!" -- The Three Stooges # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 08:33:41 -0500 Underworld will be in overdue territory soon (live albums don't count, though the DVD might. Video editing is a lot of work!), ===>i think the underworld is debunked. aren't they? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 21:35:47 +0800 > > if that's the case.. erm.. they should have done a live album! yeah :) > (jokes) > >Actually (joking aside) they should have. The one show I've seen, they tore >the roof off the place (The Mayan in LA). A great deal of their stuff is >better live--and some stuff (like "Rock & Roll," built around an >Ultramagnetic MCs sample and a drum loop from Siouxsie and the Banshees' >"Peekaboo") never appears anywhere because of licensing difficulties. In a >way, they have released live material: "Electronic Punks" compiles some >live footage with their videos up to "Poison". so there's that much difference in copyright licensing between recording and performing? >Sheesh, if it weren't >for the record company, we could have had at least another two Orb albums: >Cydonia and whatever came after. maybe we would have, and maybe we wouldn't have.. if you want to talk about possibilities, this being a rather remote one, the Orb could have sold out in the intervening time, then were would we be? "oh, if only Island had stepped in and mucked up the release of their album for a few more years, then maybe they would have stayed true to themselves.." :) Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 07:54:50 -0600 Someone, I forget who, wrote: > >When will we get an electronic band with the work ethic of the Ozric > >Tentacles, who seem to release some new material every year? Granted, some > >of it ends up dodgy at that pace... (that, and the fact that the Ozrics have > >a tendency to repeat themselves). Until the end of 1999 Fila Brazillia were releasing their music on a regular basis. Bullitnuts did the same thing. Alas, they broke up, although their former front man, Muzz, has had two solo albums in as many years. Of course, we cannot forget Baby Mammoth, who release something new every year (and who, in mid '96 - early 97 released TWO of their best efforts). Their new release is just around the corner. Additionally, the German acts Lemongrass, DePhazz and Marcel have all had yearly releases. The fabulous, and enviously talented, Yonderboi has also put out two releases in the last two years. In the case of Pork Recordings acts (Baby M, Fila, et al.) this kind of output can be attributed to one thing: The label does not make excessive demands on its artists to follow in the steps of their more mainstream counter parts. When is the last time you read a Baby Mammoth interview? Do you remember what the last Bullitnuts video looked like? And what mega corporation sponsored the last Fila Brazillia tour? "Hey did you see Banabila on the cover of the new Revolution? Man! That new Bentley of his in the gatefold is wicked!" I guess what I am trying to say is, perhaps more bands with Ozric's work ethic would exist, were it not for the constant pimping (of the good and bad kind) mainstream electronic acts must engage in when dealing with a major label. Then again, when your agent, your manager, your label, and the label's publishing company are taking $.93 of every dollar YOU make for THEM (not to mention charging artists for promotions out of that remaining $.07), major label artists have to whore themselves just to make ends meet. With this in mind, I turn to Cydonia. For me, it was sad to see one of my all-time favourite bands have to compromise their unique vision due to label MISmanagement. From what I heard of Cydonia V1 and the preview tracks on theorb.com I, like a lot of you, was totally stoked on hearing the new stuff. But I, also like the rest you, had to watch as our heroes best efforts were thwarted. Andy and Alex had something special and it was just about to blow up. But constant delays and executive-level buggery derailed all that. Andy got on the dole, Alex continued on, but with a gimpy leg, and the suits wrote it all off as a concept album wherein we see the inner working of an Martian's mind as it dreams. : / Bastards... 'bette np: Soulstance - Act On ps, I understand that the above are the exceptions and not the rule, so please keep that in mind when responding. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 02 May 2001 09:49:58 -0400 : PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right? Aren't the : other K&D titles compilations? yes, and no. K&D sessions is a compilation of their remixes... Conversions is a DJ Mix... So is their 'DJ KiCKS' release not to mention their side projects... which is all original... however, a new full-legth K&D production is expected this summer. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control Date: 02 May 2001 09:54:41 -0400 : neither selected ambient works albums do. : you know, his GOOD albums. Um, His good albums were Analogue Bubblebath I - V ;-) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 10:09:18 -0400 > From: Simon Bennett > Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:35:47 +0800 > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) > > > >>> if that's the case.. erm.. they should have done a live album! yeah :) >> (jokes) >> >> Actually (joking aside) they should have. The one show I've seen, they tore >> the roof off the place (The Mayan in LA). A great deal of their stuff is >> better live--and some stuff (like "Rock & Roll," built around an >> Ultramagnetic MCs sample and a drum loop from Siouxsie and the Banshees' >> "Peekaboo") never appears anywhere because of licensing difficulties. In a >> way, they have released live material: "Electronic Punks" compiles some >> live footage with their videos up to "Poison". > > so there's that much difference in copyright licensing between recording > and performing? AFAIK. I just remember Liam Howlett saying in Mixmag that if he released "Rock & Roll" as a single, he'd be paying Kool Keith (the Ultramagnetic MC sampled in the song) forever. Hence, he hasn't released it. >> Sheesh, if it weren't >> for the record company, we could have had at least another two Orb albums: >> Cydonia and whatever came after. > > maybe we would have, and maybe we wouldn't have.. if you want to talk about > possibilities, this being a rather remote one, the Orb could have sold out > in the intervening time, then were would we be? "oh, if only Island had > stepped in and mucked up the release of their album for a few more years, > then maybe they would have stayed true to themselves.." :) Heh. Totally agree. As I wrote my little speculation, I kept thinking, "well, could things have happened any other way?" And, in the realm of "selling out"--wouldn't selling out have meant milking the LFC/Perpetual Dawn formula for all it was worth? Considering that there weren't really recognizable singles on anything until Orblivion... and, for crying out loud, how could a band that made "Pomme Fritz" and "Orbus Terrarum" *ever* sell out? We also have the underground consolation of having at least two different versions of Cydonia. Of course, there's a different threshold for selling out in the States, I think. There's no way the Orb would get to the top of the charts in any guise (and "U.F. Orb" got to no. 7 on the UK charts, right?), at least not in the States. But, then again, how do we explain Radiohead's recent success with a relatively difficult album to digest aurally? Prodigy's "Fat of the Land" (the last Electronic release to hit no. 1 in the states-- Fatboy Slim and Moby, while popular, haven't charted that high yet, I don't think) isn't a terribly difficult album, and, in a weird way, almost leads the way for the yo-metal (Limp Bizkit, etc.) that's been dominating recently. Want to see an interesting dissection of what it means to sell out? On our PBS station last night was a Frontline documentary called "The Merchants of Cool." Very scary stuff (www.pbs.org). -- Justin Roby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) Date: 02 May 2001 10:11:51 -0400 Well, I understand that they're still performing (I know they performed after Emerson left). At any rate, they existed before Emerson, they'll probably exist after Emerson (Freur, Underworld mk. 1, Underworld mk. II, Underworld mk. III?) --Justin Roby > From: John Moxness > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:33:41 -0500 > To: 'Justin Roby' , orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (orb) moby (and cycles in techno releasing) > > Underworld will be in overdue > territory soon (live albums don't count, though the DVD might. Video > editing is a lot of work!), > > ===>i think the underworld is debunked. aren't they? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 02 May 2001 08:10:29 -0600 Yes, Xen, I as speaking specifically about K & D as an act and not their side projects. Of which, I prefer Peace Orchestra to Tosca. Funny story: When I got Peace Orchestra, I cut my self on the jewel case while trying to open it. LOL 'bette "" wrote: > : PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right? Aren't > the > : other K&D titles compilations? > > yes, and no. > > K&D sessions is a compilation of their remixes... > Conversions is a DJ Mix... So is their 'DJ KiCKS' release > not to mention their side projects... which is all original... > > however, a new full-legth K&D production is expected this summer. > > > > : visual artist > : web producer > : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orb in me Subject: Re: (orb) Coachella - Zeebruge... and Moby Date: 02 May 2001 16:12:34 +0200 At 23:44 1-5-01 +0200, derrien@club-internet.fr wrote: >Amazing how history repeats itself. > >1996 : Been in Zeebruge (Belgium) to see The Orb live on a festival. The >show lasts 20 minutes, the authorities shut down the speakers (the group >was the last one to perform). I wrote to the Orb list how sad I was. I was there too. That was a sad performance yeah. I guess having the sex pistols in the afternoon and then the orb just doesn't work :-) Although I highly enjoyed Leftfield at that same festival..... Anyway, all the other Orb shows I've seen were bliss. --Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) cheesburgers and groupies Date: 02 May 2001 10:03:39 -0400 : Could we make that Thai food and groupies? Thank you! Thai and Groupies... Sushi and Easy-Girls-Who-Just-Want-To-Have-Fun-At-An-Orb-Show-Who-May-Or-May-Not-Be-On -Drugs-But-That-Don't-Flail-Into-Other-List-Members-By-Accident what ever tickles your fancy! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Moby's sorry ass Date: 02 May 2001 10:11:05 -0400 Except Dr Dre is an excellent producer and was the first to introduce the Moog into Hip Hop. He's done beats and other production work for many of his Death Row artists and others. However, I totally agree with what you said about Moby. Yours was the definitive argument into why Moby is going to hell. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 02 May 2001 10:19:35 -0400 except that Lx took a check for a song he did in '92 (probably earlier... don't know what the demos are dated at for LFC) for a commercial in '99 Moby licencesed all but three tracks from Play in less than 4 months. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 02 May 2001 10:29:33 -0400 : Yes, Xen, I as speaking specifically about K & D as an act and not their side : projects. Of which, I prefer Peace Orchestra to Tosca. Funny story: When I : got Peace Orchestra, I cut my self on the jewel case while trying to open : it. LOL talk about ironic! (if you don't know - the Peace Orchestra album came with a real band-aid on it) And please, call me eric, if you like. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) moby Date: 02 May 2001 10:34:59 -0400 (EDT) > mistake. I mean I see all these people saying they listen to some of the > coolest electronica and so I take a listen, and it's something like the > venga boys. They think that's what techno is, and always has been/will be. Well in a way thats true. Read on... > More music getting attention like Moby's will prob. just make a whole new > generation of candy ravers, who if they listened to a lot more electronica > that's out there (I.E. orb, FSOL, autechre, death in vegas, etc., etc.,) > would prob. think it's just a bunch of crappy, pointless music. But then Aha! That's where you're wrong. The problem is this: most people are idiots. There are many MANY people in the world (I'd say the majority of them) who really are content to listen to the media created for them by the mega-conglomerate corporations who, at least in the US, control about 90% of all entertainment media. I'm talking about Rupert Murdoch, Aol Time Warner, Viacom, etc. Take viacom for instance. Viacom corp FULLY owns the following companies: Infinity Broadcasting, MTV, CBS, BET, Paramount Pictures, Nickalodeon, Blockbuster video, United Cinemas, UPN, VH1, Showtime, the movie channel, Pay Per View, Comedy Central, Kind World productions, Scribner Publishing, Simon & Schuster, Touchstone Publishing, Paramount Theme Parks, the entire star trek franchise, and the list goes on and on and on (see http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/giants/viacom.html for the full list). Anyways, when you have a business model like this, a single small group of high powered execs can choose a group, promote its records on the radio stations it owns, show the videos on the TV stations it also owns, advertise its albums on its TV stations and include songs in its shows, offer all kinds of cross promotional deals (eg: blockbuster video gives you a FREE backstreet boys CD when you rent 3 videos). Look at the way Howard Stern gets cross-leveraged; the companies that syndicates his radio show, published his book, produced his movie, produces all of his merchandise are all owned by one mega conglomerate. And these companies are not doing this to bring you the best music or to open your mind to interesting musical ideas. They're carefully choosing groups that project a certain IMAGE that they're trying to sell. Take Britney Spears. She's a self professed virgin and all of these things, but flaunts her sexuality. And why is she famous? Because this nympho cum catholic school girl thing SELLS. Same thing goes for limp biscut. Someone at MTV decided they wanted this band to be famous, so now they are. Nuff said. Do you think its easy for your average idiot, who watches MTV and listens to CBS-affiliated radio stations, and watches hollywood movies to NOT be at least effected by these subtle advertisements? Especially if they live someplace where their choices of alternatively news/print/internet mediums are limited? But enough about my economics raving. :) Back to the original topic: You're better off in the long run accepting the fact that people are idiots and integrating it into your life rather than being angry at the fact and/or the people who demostrate its truth. Its not their fault they're idiots and you probably wont be able to do anything about it where you could see the results in your lifetime... In the end, the fact is, a lot of people like crappy pointless music. Even given the choice between the backstreet boys and the orb, having listened to both extensively, there are a lot of people in this country who would still listen to the backstreet boys... > something that is catchy and simple to play on all their ads. I guess in the > end things will work themselves out, or else cheesy pop will continue to > rule the masses... The latter. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a few independant musicians don't stand a chance against companies with billions of dollars of revenue constant focus of the publics eye. As a side note: this is why I so strongly support things like napster. LONG LIVE INDEPENDANT FILE-SHARING BASED INTERNET MUSIC!!! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 02 May 2001 10:41:23 -0400 (EDT) > did alex sell out when LFC ended up on the commercials it did. hell no .. > he took a check and said 'thanks'. I just wanted to mention for the record that the chances are alex doesn't own the copyright to that song; Island Records does. Ergo, its doubtful that alex or anyone else from the band made any money personally from this song being used in a commercial, nor is it terribly likely that they even had any say in its being used... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove Date: 02 May 2001 08:43:52 -0600 Xen, Ironic indeed. And no, I did not use the band-aid. Gotta keep the package intact. "" wrote: > : Yes, Xen, I as speaking specifically about K & D as an act and not their > side > : projects. Of which, I prefer Peace Orchestra to Tosca. Funny story: > When I > : got Peace Orchestra, I cut my self on the jewel case while trying to open > : it. LOL > > talk about ironic! (if you don't know - the Peace Orchestra album came with > a real band-aid on it) > > And please, call me eric, if you like. > > > > : visual artist > : web producer > : www.thezenlab.com > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 02 May 2001 15:48:49 +0100 (BST) ben wrote: > I just wanted to mention for the record that the > chances are alex doesn't own the copyright to that > song; Island Records does. i thought it was purely that Island own the license to release / distribute orb tracks. > Ergo, its doubtful that alex or anyone else from the > band made any money personally from this song being > used in a commercial, nor is it terribly likely that > they even had any say in its being used... i don't think that they could release it without the songwriter's permission, and lx WAS paid a fee for it's use, afaik. same as moby - he has licensed EVERY track from 'play' for adverts, and been paid for them all. l8r. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: File Sharing Date: 02 May 2001 10:57:08 -0400 : LONG LIVE INDEPENDANT : FILE-SHARING BASED INTERNET MUSIC!!! :) try www.winmx.com for an alternate way to connect to napster... it even has file transfer resume capabilities! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: (orb) Re: Date: 02 May 2001 10:58:57 -0400 : hi everybody. Otis Brown here; aka Otep 147. I've just compiled some of my : older Orb remixes that I've done myself on my web site at : http://www.otep147.internetdj.com Remixes include new versions of "Montagne : D'Or", "SALT", and "Slug Dub". Please drop me some e-mail and let me know : what you think. Not to shabby... I especially like what you did with slug dub! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) RE: People on Album Covers Date: 02 May 2001 11:28:33 -0400 now that it has been brought to my attention 20 times, i think i will take your word for it :) >And do not forget about the beloved Richard D. James, who's >face has graced >about every single one of his Aphex Twin covers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) test (nt) Date: 02 May 2001 10:42:34 -0500 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "decay" Subject: (orb) Duplicate Messages Date: 02 May 2001 12:16:59 -0400 Is anyone else getting duplicate messages? If nit, it may be because I am using Outlook XP/2002. I'll look into it..... Thanks Regis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "timmins" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:16:06 -0500 Date: 02 May 2001 10:19:54 -0600 I work for VW, so will be biased in my opinion. But, I can't say that VW uses music into their branding and the artist becomes TRL's newest guest of the week. The reason why VW is still pulling in record months of sales and other car-makers are laying off thousands is because they know what the customer base wants and doesn't overuse their branding. I have met many of the people from Arnold Comm. and I tell you I couldn't have more of an amazing team of creatives to work with. my $0.02 timmins >except that Lx took a check for a song he did in '92 (probably >earlier... >don't know what the demos are dated at for LFC) for a commercial in '99 > >Moby licencesed all but three tracks from Play in less than 4 months. > > > > >: visual artist >: web producer >: www.thezenlab.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: (orb) Otis' Orb Remixes Date: 02 May 2001 17:21:06 +0100 Our proxy at work has banned mp3 downloads, and I only have 56K at home - anyone willing to burn them [in mp3 format] to a cd? It's not like I haven't burnt cd's for list members in the past ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otis Brown" Date: 02 May 2001 16:28:04 -0000 Hey guys. check out my jungle mix of "Montagne D'Or" in streaming audio at this link http://www.iuma.com/mugly-bin/ramgen.ram?aid=42406&sid=117600 Let me know what you think. If you like there are more remixes of Orb stuff at my site http://www.otep147.internetdj.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:16:06 -0500 Date: 02 May 2001 17:24:47 +0100 VW and good sales is probably because they make f**king good cars. Can't argue with German engineering.......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) VW Date: 02 May 2001 12:33:57 -0400 if you are going to sell a futuristic looking car like the new bug on TV- why not accompany the commercial with equally futuristic music? it really set the "image" they were going after... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Cydonia - Japan Date: 02 May 2001 21:17:59 +0200 Hi all my dear friends! I have a non moby related question! Is it worth to buy the Japan press of CYDONIA? Saw it at http://www.cduniverse.com/asp/albuminfo.asp?style=audio&afl=&LC=MSI13706 5&cart=104645045&qs=artist Does this CD have that cool CD inlay that "JG" I think scanned for us? And if it's a must for a fanatic as I am then do you guys know of a cheaper place to buy it from! Sorry to intrude the moby and your amazing orb-experiences wish I lived on that side of the ocean, a paradox by the way LX from London but hangs in the states! Well, I guess he'll play in Scandinavia soon! Wish, hope! And by the way check mi site! I made some major updates, if you guys not too busy. Tee time catch you all soon.. Dr.Winston O'Boogie. http://www.uf-orb.com (PS: I have a lame guestbook, but please do like SMILEY write something! =) Over and out. All your's Dwb. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: (orb) Cydonia - different versions Date: 02 May 2001 12:16:29 -0700 Greetings - I am wondering if anyone out there has information on what different released versions of Cydonia exist. I already know the UK general release has 1 more track than the US release, but checking on Amazon.com they mention an alleged UK version with 2 extra tracks. Unfortunately, they do not provide a track list (i.e. is 1 of the 2 EDM?). I have been unable to find a definitive answer for any of this! So, being that I am an unfortunate US sap that already bought the neutered US release, I want to make sure I'm getting the most I can before I buy an import release. Any info is surely appreciated. Thanks, Tim C. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Area:one Alternative. *WARNING: Serious Sarcasm* Date: 02 May 2001 14:36:57 -0500 For those of you groaning at the All Start Moby line up, and megacorp sponsorship at the Area:One festival, have an alternative to attend. Why not try the Rolling Rock Town Fair 2.0 tour. You'll be able to get your fair share of wandering drunk sweaty meatheads while rockin out to Stone Temple Pilots, Live, Deftones, Incubus, Staind, and Oleander! I'm sure that will cure you of your moby woes, and All-Star Rock postering of the lineup at Area:One. :P Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" Subject: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 15:40:53 -0400 While we are on the topic of VW... A while back right here on this list (Oh my God, an of topic discussion) there was a little discussion about some of the music used in VW ads. One of the songs was called Jung at Heart and was played on a Jetta ad where the windshield wipers, the folks walking on the street, and everything else in the ad were all moving to the beat of the song. Does anybody know anything at all about this song, the band that made it and more importantly where I can get it? It was awesome. Thanks, Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) RE: People on Album Covers Date: 02 May 2001 11:28:33 -0400 now that it has been brought to my attention 20 times, i think i will take your word for it :) >And do not forget about the beloved Richard D. James, who's >face has graced >about every single one of his Aphex Twin covers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) test (nt) Date: 02 May 2001 10:42:34 -0500 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 14:58:03 -0500 > Does anybody know anything at all about this song, > the band that made it and more importantly where I > can get it? Go to http://commerce.vw.com/ and there should be a little link on the main page to a CD VW is selling of music used on their ads, INCLUDING "Jung at Heart" by Master Cylinder. Fortunately, LFC isn't on there. I think. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 02 May 2001 15:48:49 +0100 (BST) ben wrote: > I just wanted to mention for the record that the > chances are alex doesn't own the copyright to that > song; Island Records does. i thought it was purely that Island own the license to release / distribute orb tracks. > Ergo, its doubtful that alex or anyone else from the > band made any money personally from this song being > used in a commercial, nor is it terribly likely that > they even had any say in its being used... i don't think that they could release it without the songwriter's permission, and lx WAS paid a fee for it's use, afaik. same as moby - he has licensed EVERY track from 'play' for adverts, and been paid for them all. l8r. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRQ Subject: Re: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 16:15:25 -0400 Here's the track listing: Nick Drake, "Pink Moon" Hooverphonic, "Renaissance Affair" Charles Mingus, "II BS" Styx, "Mr. Roboto" Master Cylinder, "Jung At Heart" Ben Neill, "Turbonium X" Pitchshifter, "Subject To Status" Fluke, "Absurd" Spiritualized, "Ladies And Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space" Trio, "Da Da Da" Velocity Girl, "Sorry Again" Psychic TV, "Roman P" -jrq John Goelzer wrote: > > Does anybody know anything at all about this song, > > the band that made it and more importantly where I > > can get it? > > Go to http://commerce.vw.com/ and there should be a little link on the main > page to a CD VW is selling of music used on their ads, INCLUDING "Jung at > Heart" by Master Cylinder. > > Fortunately, LFC isn't on there. I think. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 13:24:15 -0700 John Goelzer wrote: > > Go to http://commerce.vw.com/ and there should be a little link on the main > page to a CD VW is selling of music used on their ads, INCLUDING "Jung at > Heart" by Master Cylinder. > > Fortunately, LFC isn't on there. I think. What kind of website tries to sell a CD without giving the tracklisting? LFC apparently was on an earlier 14-track promo CD from VW ("Buy a car, get this lovely free CD"), even if it isn't on this one (not that we can tell...). My question is if Psychic TV's Roman P. made it onto either CD. I was shocked to hear it in the commercial, given PTV's history. I was surprised that VW used them (not to mention that they allowed the track to be used); and I'd be even more surprised if VW actually put them on either CD. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 13:28:16 -0700 JRQ wrote: > > Here's the track listing: > > Psychic TV, "Roman P" And there is part of the answer...does anyone have the 14-track promo? CDDB has something listed that might be it; it has neither LFC nor Roman P. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin K. Wallace" Subject: Re: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 16:39:00 -0500 which commercial has the Psychic TV song? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) On the topic of VW's Date: 02 May 2001 14:45:44 -0700 "Martin K. Wallace" wrote: > > which commercial has the Psychic TV song? It was a few years ago; just people jamming around in a Jetta(?), with the "Are you free? Are you really free? Are you really, really, really, really, really free?" chorus from Roman P. blasting as the soundtrack to the commercial. It was full of odd camera angles and jump cuts, of course. ;) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott McCoskery" Subject: (orb) More VW Rant (long) Date: 02 May 2001 15:10:23 -0700 Alright folks, sorry about the rant you're about to read (or delete), but the topic of selling out always brings out the opinionatedness in me, so here goes nothing: There are some commercials on TV that I like, and that includes pretty much every VW commercial I've seen in the last few years. They're clever, and they always use great music. If it weren't for VW I wouldn't know who Nick Drake was. Not one of those ads made me think I need to buy a Beetle. Why? Because I don't let them -- I'm not that impressionable. Are they tapping into my subconcious? Maybe, but I've still got a 4-Runner parked in my driveway last time I checked. And how about the two new Nike ads with all the syncopatic dribbling? That's pure original creative genius -- it just also happens to be a Nike ad. I personally like my Adidas sneakers but Nike's commercials are way better -- and I *still* buy Adidas. How about the new Earthlink ads -- the editing in those is amazing as well. The same is true with The Gap. Now I can imagine probably every single person on this list thinks The Gap/Fisher Family is pure corporate crap in it's worst form, and I couldn't agree more; But their TV commercials are cool -- ok, at least original -- and often imitated. If you look past the product and look at the artistic elements of either VW, Nike, Earthlink or Gap's ads, they're cool -- What if the creative team at VW was hired to produce an Orb video? -- it would kick ass; and it's because I make that recognition that lets me appreciate the talents of the creative team hired by the corporate giant, and not give a rip about the product being shoved down my throat. Just like in music, music videos, TV game shows, TV Reality shows, movies, or any other profitable form of entertainment there are trend-setters and followers. A short list of trend-setters: Beck, Madonna, Dr. Dre, Who Want's to be a Millionaire?, The Real World, etc. You may not like anyone or anything I just mentioned, but at least give them credit for doing something new and having it work so well that everyone wants to copy it. And recognize that these entertainers are still around today for a reason -- they're smart -- they know what it takes to have a long career -- something a 'follower' can't comprehend (Madonna's choice to work with William Orbit is a perfect example of an intelligent businesswoman trying to stay one step ahead of the masses, the same is true about Dre's decision to produce Eminem). You see, I believe that in all things commercial, the people who do it 'first' should not be held accountable for the mass-REproduction of their clever ideas. When you do it first, it's not called selling out, it's called breaking out. Ford has been attempting to knock off VW's ads for awhile now and they all suck -- they can't do it -- and I hate them every time I see them. Why? Because Ford doesn't have the creative TALENT on staff to come up with a clever idea of their own. And hats off to VW for NOT using a Moby-type in their ads -- instead using lesser known artists like The Orb gives me respect for them. It makes me think "now there's an advertiser that really knows what's good and what's crap -- there's an advertiser who knows the difference between what's real and what's a xerox copy of innovative music." It's a shame that in electronic music the trend-setters tend not to be the bands that sell the most records, instead they are the bands that hold true to their art form, and try not to allow labels to infringe upon their creativity while *still* making a living. Then a follower comes along with no integrity and churns out an MTV'd version of the same stuff with a couple of pop hooks for pure profit. Or, sometimes, a trend-setter needs to put food on his family's plates and *has* to compromise. My definition of a sellout: Someone who allows gross-profit to compromise their artistic integrity. Did LX do this when he let VW use LFC? No. Why? Because the song didn't change one bit, he just re-sold it. Is that so bad? I'm sure he wasn't thinking "wow, this is gonna kick ass for a car commercial some day" when he was writing it. And at least he didn't mix in some sample of a bunch of tibetan monks chanting "I Love My Volkswagen" or something, which to me would be akin to Faith Hill singing a Pepsi hook -- and that, my friends, is truly selling out. As far as the Area: One festival goes, since it seems to be the root of this thread; I say whatever it takes to get a festival of electronic/hip hop musicians together in my hood is alright with me. What if it were a rave in a stinky warehouse and the lineup was just LX, Oakenfold, Carl Cox, and a handful of locals -- sans commercialization -- would you pay $75 for a ticket then? I've paid that much to see worse, and in worse venues than the Gorge (and no, the Gorge doesn't suck -- it's one of the most beautiful venues in the country, but don't take my word for it -- read any respectable review you can find (http://www.barstop.com/gorge/). I could care less if Intel's sponsoring it -- besides the quadraphonic sound thing in the DJ tent is a direct result of Intel's sponsorship. And maybe I can get a mouse mat or a blinking ball-point pen or something for free -- because I like 'free.' And I'm capable of going to a festival that has one or two sellout bands/artists and feel OK about myself, because the truth is I would still pay $75 to go to this festival if Moby or Intel weren't there, and if Moby's on while Oakenfold/LX/Cox is spinning, you won't find me at the main stage -- you'll find me where *I* want to be, because I choose not to let commercialization control me. Thanks for listening, Scott NP: Ben Harper 'Live From Mars' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) Orb show / San Francisco Date: 02 May 2001 15:51:36 -0700 The live versions of the songs were excellent too - ONCE MORE! OH MY GOD!!! The live version blew me away! Acapella / more spacy/ethereal vocal intro...then BOOM! Full on electro breakbeat attack! Put some serious energy into that previously poppy tune! That's the way ONCE MORE started at Coachella. They were cut off just before the breakbeat attack. I was sensing it was going to be the Cauty Mix from the dark blue 12" promo. Wicked! What could have been. Your lucky SF! FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) the Orb on "breaks" Date: 02 May 2001 19:17:14 -0400 every track or remix i have heard has been f--cking excellent when they decide to dabble with breaks... -remix of toxygene (disc 2?) -slug dub -remix of toxygene (silver disc ufoff) -promis -anything else??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) the Orb on "breaks" Date: 02 May 2001 19:21:38 -0400 -yungle -i guess a version of Once More (love to get ahold of that!) >every track or remix i have heard has been f--cking excellent when they >decide to dabble with breaks... > >-remix of toxygene (disc 2?) >-slug dub >-remix of toxygene (silver disc ufoff) >-promis > >-anything else??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) orb - breaks Date: 02 May 2001 19:38:11 -0400 oh yea, and Mickey Mars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) centuries - eurofen mix Date: 02 May 2001 18:22:06 -0600 centuries - eurofen mix from the 40 minute mix. the only place i've heard it. does anyone know any more about this track? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Thursdays Keeper Date: 02 May 2001 19:18:49 -0700 I'm hearing Malcolm McLaren's "Buffalo Gals" at least a couple of times in Thursdays Keeper. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (orb) Thursdays Keeper Date: 02 May 2001 22:25:02 -0400 Yes you are Ed wrote: > I'm hearing Malcolm McLaren's "Buffalo Gals" at least a couple of times in > Thursdays Keeper. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dphjr1" Subject: (orb) Air Date: 02 May 2001 23:17:59 -0400 Yeah I know it's a few years old but Air's Moon Safari is a fantastic adventure... Hull # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:16:06 -0500 Date: 03 May 2001 00:41:51 -0400 I can..... hehe.. I've been working on putting a new clutch in my 86 VW scirroco since saturday.... everythging is so precision and really isn't expected to have to be taken apart, so when it does need to be fixed... it's a project... -ben (I love my scirocco.... err... both of them) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: Re: (orb) Area:one Alternative. *WARNING: Serious Sarcasm* Date: 03 May 2001 00:51:35 -0400 do you have tourdates for this!!!!!!>??????? ROCK!!!!! Sean Wolfe wrote: > try the Rolling Rock Town Fair 2.0 tour. You'll be able to get your fair > share of wandering drunk sweaty meatheads while rockin out to Stone Temple > Pilots, Live, Deftones, Incubus, Staind, and Oleander! I'm sure that will > cure you of your moby woes, and All-Star Rock postering of the lineup at > Area:One. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dark Eyed Kid" Subject: (orb) finds Date: 03 May 2001 09:34:18 +0100 I've just come across the following items on napster and was wondering if anyone can shed any light on them. Are they already in the Orb Archive. If not let me know and i'll stick them up. Orb - 4954(live) Dr LX - DJ set - XFM 25-03-2001 Cheers G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) orb - breaks Date: 03 May 2001 09:38:03 +0100 Jam on yer Honey.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Heery Subject: (orb) Greg Hunter inf: new album Date: 03 May 2001 11:36:25 +0100 Hello all Glad to see animated debate regarding things of little intrest... For those into music a bit of info regarding Greg Hunter ( ex engineer for The Orb..) New Album Title: Sout el Leil Artist: Fifth Sun ( Greg and Amir Abo Elmagio ) Label: MELT 2000 Website: www.melt2000.com Its basically Greg producing Amir ( who I'm told is the best Egyptian singer in the world ), its arabian pop, but with Gregs undeniable fine eltro dubby bass squelchy production. Once you get under the singing there is fine work here. I recommend to those not opposed to hearing music from different cultures nice one greg! Focus *********************** focusnet@madasafish.com Visit my Web sites!: www.madasafish.com/~focusnet www.johnheery.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Greg Hunter inf: new album Date: 03 May 2001 11:42:11 +0100 can't resist this having spent several months in Egypt..... Is it a good price my friend with much cheapness? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Heery Subject: (orb) thursdayteatime shows Date: 03 May 2001 13:09:42 +0100 could anyone pls tell me more about these shows or where I can find out more about them ? Cheers focus *********************** focusnet@madasafish.com Visit my Web sites!: www.madasafish.com/~focusnet www.johnheery.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Breaks? Date: 03 May 2001 08:57:12 -0500 > every track or remix i have heard has been f--cking excellent when they > decide to dabble with breaks... ===>Um...what are "breaks"? Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Breaks? Date: 03 May 2001 13:57:22 +0100 as in break beats...anything from jungle/breakbeat [call it what you will] which is [generalising horribly] just speeded up hip-hop breaks, which is just speeded up soul/jazz funky drum loops horn stabs etc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 10:14:53 -0400 (EDT) > Yeah I know it's a few years old but Air's Moon Safari is a fantastic > adventure... You should also check out their second/first album (came out after moon safari, but contains all material originally released before the first album). Its the one with the funky little colored circles on the cover. I forget the name tho... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 15:17:25 +0100 Premiers Sytomes......and you should also check out the Virgin Suicides soundtrack [soundscape?]. Just waiting for 10,000hz !! not long to go now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 09:26:25 -0500 Anyone ever seen a short film called "The Architecture or Reassurance?" It's by Mike Mills, who did the album art for Air's Moon Safari and also directed some of their videos and their concert home video (Eating, Sleeping, whatever it's called). Anyway, the score is by Air (collaborating with someone else whose name I can't remember). It's just some very simple, repeating piano and rhodes stuff but it's SO beautiful... all I have is a crappy VHS dub off the Sundance channel, so there's not much hope of me capturing any sounds from that copy, but I'd love to find these tracks somewhere... JG PS - And don't skip an opportunity to see Air live! I saw them on the Moon Safari tour and they were great. I don't know if anyone here has heard or heard of The Moog Cookbook, but that guy's their keyboardist on the road (I think he (and some of the other members (drummer?)) of Air's band are also in Beck's band). Amazing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 07:43:06 -0700 >PS - And don't skip an opportunity to see Air live! I saw them on the Moon >Safari tour and they were great. I don't know if anyone here has heard or >heard of The Moog Cookbook, but that guy's their keyboardist on the road (I >think he (and some of the other members (drummer?)) of Air's band are also >in Beck's band). Amazing. i'll back him up on this...behind the orb, that was possibly one of the best shows i've seen..the versions they played were SO different from the originals..some amazing improvisation..greatness..unfortunately only played like a 50 minute set here (damn club night in boston!). they're apparently on tour (or will be shortly)..there'll be here (boston) in june, so keep a look out. and i heard an advance of their new album (with built-in fadeouts and gaps to discourage copying it, i guess)..it's good stuff..some stuff similar to virgin suicides and some stuff similar to their older stuff (which i happen to like more)..but definitely one to pick up.. matt (who's still looking for air live recordings, but isn't really interested in their movie ;). WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 09:57:21 -0500 Matt: I'm 99% certain that the Air show I saw (at the Metro in Chicago) was netcast through rollingstone.com. Whether they have an archive online of shows they've broadcast I don't know (don't have time to investigate right now), but if they do, maybe someone with a high-speed connection and Streambox or Total Recorder or something could capture the show...? Anyone? Anyone? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 09:26:25 -0500 Anyone ever seen a short film called "The Architecture or Reassurance?" It's by Mike Mills, who did the album art for Air's Moon Safari and also directed some of their videos and their concert home video (Eating, Sleeping, whatever it's called). Anyway, the score is by Air (collaborating with someone else whose name I can't remember). It's just some very simple, repeating piano and rhodes stuff but it's SO beautiful... all I have is a crappy VHS dub off the Sundance channel, so there's not much hope of me capturing any sounds from that copy, but I'd love to find these tracks somewhere... JG PS - And don't skip an opportunity to see Air live! I saw them on the Moon Safari tour and they were great. I don't know if anyone here has heard or heard of The Moog Cookbook, but that guy's their keyboardist on the road (I think he (and some of the other members (drummer?)) of Air's band are also in Beck's band). Amazing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 10:15:32 -0500 > Anyone ever seen a short film... Sorry... when this message appeared for the second time (I didn't sent it twice, I promise) I noticed a typo: the Mike Mills short film with the Air score is called "The Architecture OF Reassurance." Just in case anyone's trying to track it down... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Breaks? Date: 03 May 2001 11:31:30 -0400 ===> Um, What are Breaks? take an old funk record. scretch scratch your record. yeah! just like a dj play the record straight thru hear the pops, the pauses, the stops in the beats? that's a break. now-a-days, they just program in the pauses. kids. i swear. :-) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 11:36:04 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 3 May 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > You should also check out their second/first album (came out > after moon safari, but contains all material originally released > before the first album). Its the one with the funky little colored > circles on the cover. I forget the name tho... :) _premiers symptomes_ - i much prefer this to _moon safari_. _moon safari_ was just a little too cheesy for me. not only that, but _premiers symptomes_ has "le soleil est pres de moi" on it, easily one of the most beautiful songs i've ever heard. :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 11:36:56 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 3 May 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > Just waiting for 10,000hz !! not long to go now. i've got a promo copy of this, and i quite like. going back a bit to their older sound, and actually a little dark and noisy at points (!). good stuff. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 12:49:24 -0400 I'm recording it right now via Total Recorder. I can MP3 this and put it up on one of the archive servers. Where's the best place to upload it? - pascal > > now), but if they do, maybe someone with a high-speed connection and > Streambox or Total Recorder or something could capture the show...? Anyone? > Anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 11:53:29 -0500 > I'm recording it right now via Total Recorder. > I can MP3 this and put it up on one of the > archive servers. > Where's the best place to upload it? Chain Reaction FTP, perhaps? Steph? Anyone else? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 17:58:59 +0100 Whilst on the subject, does anyone have any live recordings from TV etc? I have the "walking, sleeping, eating" promo thing, but it's not really live. I remember seeing them live on MTV [uk] or something and they were very good. Seem to recall lots of vocoder work and stuff, like one list member already said, much different to their recorded work. Also, not that I want to lump Daft Punk in with Air, but was anyone as disappointed with their latest offering [Discovery]? Their video [Story About Dogs, Androids, Firemen And Tomatoes] is well worth a watch. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Daft Punk Date: 03 May 2001 13:26:10 -0400 : Also, not that I want to lump Daft Punk in with Air, but was anyone as : disappointed with their latest offering [Discovery]? Their video [Story : About Dogs, Androids, Firemen And Tomatoes] is well worth a watch. I loved the new Daft Punk... While Homework didn't really do it for me. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) OT: Daft Punk Date: 03 May 2001 18:27:45 +0100 I can see why, as it's moves in a totally different direction. Don't get me wrong there are some very neat touches and some excellent tunes. I think it's just that after the storming Homework [which was a bit "full-on" in comparison] I was expecting something special, and I felt a bit cheated. Has anyone bothered to go onto their website and register the daft punk club thing - any benefit to doing so? i.e. new tunes etc etc? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: RE: (orb) OT: Daft Punk Date: 03 May 2001 13:43:43 -0400 (EDT) > Has anyone bothered to go onto their website and register the daft punk club > thing - any benefit to doing so? i.e. new tunes etc etc? After going through a pretty annoying download - register - download - register process, and getting some crap added to your system tray, eventually you get this Daft Player and some songs that it can play... Mostly remixes and live stuff, if you're hankering for more Daft Punk, it's worth it.... Some stuff from both Homework and Discovery. I don't know how rare the stuff they have up there is, since I haven't really looked for rare Daft Punk before on or offline.... anyone else know? ---- Jeff A Klein Bottle has zero volume, so we suggest that you do not use it as a personal flotation device. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: (orb) RE: daft punk Date: 03 May 2001 11:09:23 -0700 DQo+QWxzbywgbm90IHRoYXQgSSB3YW50IHRvIGx1bXAgRGFmdCBQdW5rIGluIHdpdGggQWly LCBidXQgd2FzIGFueW9uZSBhcw0KPmRpc2FwcG9pbnRlZCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIGxhdGVzdCBv ZmZlcmluZyBbRGlzY292ZXJ5XT8gVGhlaXIgdmlkZW8gW1N0b3J5DQo+QWJvdXQgRG9ncywg QW5kcm9pZHMsIEZpcmVtZW4gQW5kIFRvbWF0b2VzXSBpcyB3ZWxsIHdvcnRoIGEgd2F0Y2gu DQoNCiAgICAgICAgIGhtbS4uLmFwcGFyZW50bHkgaSdtIGdvaW5nIGFnYWluc3QgdGhlIGdy YWluIGhlcmUsIGJ1dCBpIExPVkUgImRpc2NvdmVyeSIuLi5pICpyZWFsbHkqIGxpa2VkIGFi b3V0IGhhbGYgdGhlIHNvbmdzIG9uICJob21ld29yayIsIGJ1dCB0aGUgb3RoZXIgaGFsZiB3 ZXJlIHByZXR0eSBkYW1uZWQgbWVkaW9jcmUuLmJ1dCB0aGUgbmV3IG9uZSwgaSB0aGluayBh bGwgdGhlIHRyYWNrcyBhcmUgdmVyeSBzdHJvbmcuLml0J3MgZ290IGEgZ29vZCBwYWNlIHRv IGl0LCBpIHRoaW5rLi5zcGVlZCB1cCBmb3IgYSBmZXcgc29uZ3MsIHNsb3cgZG93biBhIGJp dCwgc3BlZWQgdXAuLi5pIGFsc28gZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZSBhIHByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCBjaGVlenkg dm94IHRoZXkgc2VlbSB0byBsaWtlIG9uIHRoZSBuZXcgYWxidW0gKG9uZSBtb3JlIHRpbWUv ZXRjKS4uYWxsIGluIGFsbCwgaSB0aGluayBpdCdzIG9uZSBvZiB0aGUgYmVzdCBuZXcgY2Qn cyBpJ3ZlIGhlYXJkIGluIGEgd2hpbGUuLg0KICAgICAgICAgYWxzbywgdGhlIG5ldyBtdXNp YyB2aWRlb3MgZnJvbSB0aGUgbmV3IGFsYnVtIGFyZSAqQVdFU09NRSogYXMgd2VsbC4uaSd2 ZSBvbmx5IHRoZSBmaXJzdCAyIHNvIGZhci4udGhleSdyZSBkaXJlY3RlZCBieSB0aGUgZ3V5 IHRoYXQgZGlkIG9sZHNrb29sIGFuaW3pIHN0dWZmIChzdGFyYmxhemVycyBhbmQgYWxsIHRo YXQgamF6eikuLnN1cHBvc2VkbHkgdGhleSdyZSBtYWtpbmcgdmlkZW9zIGZvciBldmVyeSBz b25nIG9uIHRoZSBhbGJ1bSwgYW5kIGl0J3MgYSBjb250aW51aW5nIHN0b3J5IGxpbmUuLi5p IGhvcGUgdGhhdCB0aGV5IHJlbGVhc2UgYSBkdmQgb2YgdGhlbSBhZnRlciBpdCdzIGFsbCBk b25lLi50aGV5J3JlIGdyZWF0IHNvIGZhci4uaWYgYW55b25lIHdhbnRzIHRoZSBmaXJzdCAy IG9uIG9uZSBvZiB0aGUgdmFyaW91cyBmdHAncyBhcm91bmQsIGxldCBtZSBrbm93Li5pJ3Zl IGdvdCAnZW0uLg0KICAgICAgICBhbmQgaSBmaW5hbGx5IHJlZ2lzdGVyZWQgd2l0aCB0aGUg ZGFmdHB1bmsuY29tIGRlYWxpZSBsYXN0IG5pZ2h0Li5pIHdhcyBraW5kYSBkaXNhcHBvaW50 ZWQuLi5pdCdzIGdvdCByZW1peGVzIGFuZCB0aGF0IHN0dWZmLCBidXQgbm90IHRoYXQgZXhj aXRpbmcuLmkgYXQgbGVhc3QgZXhwZWN0ZWQgdGhlIG11c2ljIHZpZGVvcyB0byBzdHJlYW0g KGkgZGlkbid0IHNlZSAnZW0gdGhvdWdoKS4uLm9oIHdlbGwuLg0KICAgICAgICBzbyB5ZWFo LCBpIGdpdmUgbWFkIHByb3BzIHRvIHRoZSBuZXcgYWxidW0gOikgIGFuZCBpZiB5b3UgaGVh cmQgdGhlIGFkdmFuY2UgcHJvbW8gYW5kIGRpc21pc3NlZCBpdCwgc2V2ZXJhbCBvZiB0aGUg c29uZ3MgZ290IGltcHJvdmVkIG9uIHRoZSBmaW5hbCBtaXguLmRlZmluaXRlbHkgZm9yIHRo ZSBiZXN0Li4NCg0KICAgICAgICBhbmQgbm93IGJhY2sgdG8gbW9ieS4uLg0KICAgICAgICA7 KQ0KICAgICAgICBtYXR0Lg0KDQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCldJTiAkMSwwMDAsMDAwIFBsYXkgTmV0dGF4 aSBMb3R0bw0KaHR0cDovL3N3ZWVwcy5uZXR0YXhpLmNvbQ0K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 14:11:20 -0500 > Whilst on the subject, does anyone have any > live recordings from TV etc? Sort of. I picked up a used copy of Issue 6 of the DVD-based Circuit music magazine, and, in addition to some (pretty funny) interview footage and the video for "Le Soleil...," there's footage of Air performing one of the songs from the Virgin Suicides OST live. It's OK, nothing spectacular. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "get downandboogie" Subject: (orb) blue room woman voice Date: 03 May 2001 19:32:57 -0000 hey all, i was just wondering where that sample of the woman's voice comes from on blue room? (i think that someone said that it was the mad professor, but didn't say what song and on what album) if anyone knows just post it up yo ; ) (insert catchey signature phrase here) shawn _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) blue room woman voice Date: 03 May 2001 14:18:10 -0600 it's from mad professor - who knows the secret of the master tape? - the name of the track is fast forward into dub. > > hey all, > > i was just wondering where that sample of the woman's > voice comes from on > blue room? > (i think that someone said that it was the mad professor, > but didn't say > what song and on what album) > > if anyone knows just post it up yo ; ) > > (insert catchey signature phrase here) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: Re: (orb) the Orb on "breaks" Date: 03 May 2001 13:57:35 -0700 > -i guess a version of Once More (love to get ahold of that!) I would sell my first born to have a copy of the breaks-laden version played live on tour! WHEW!!! SO PHAT!!! :-) Come on tapers/bootleggers! Bring on the recordings!! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Elvis (Orb remix) ? Date: 03 May 2001 23:03:19 +0200 I finally found the Elvis Presley track. I'm 99% sure it's the version I found that LX spun on Orb concerts. It's mono, it's from Memories : The '68 Comeback Special (2CD) A little less conversation 1.48 I'm surprised that it's so short. Maybe on his sets LX uses twice the track to do it longer OR he did an Orb remix. After all, The Doors have been remixed, why not the King ? Excellent 2 CD, BTW. JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: (orb) Once More: Cauty Mix (blue 12" promo)???? Date: 03 May 2001 14:05:32 -0700 >> The live versions of the songs were excellent too - >> ONCE MORE! OH MY GOD!!! The live version blew me away! Acapella / more >> spacy/ethereal vocal intro...then BOOM! Full on electro breakbeat attack! >> Put some serious energy into that previously poppy tune! > > > That's the way ONCE MORE started at Coachella. They were cut off just > before the > breakbeat attack. I was sensing it was going to be the Cauty Mix from the > dark blue > 12" promo. Wicked! What could have been. Your lucky SF! WHOA!!!!! Can anyone confirm that this is actually in existence and fits the description above???? I MUST HAVE THIS IF IT EXISTS!! Anyone???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Air (and Orb tour stuff) Date: 03 May 2001 14:07:57 -0700 John Goelzer wrote: > > Matt: > > I'm 99% certain that the Air show I saw (at the Metro in Chicago) was > netcast through rollingstone.com. Whether they have an archive online of > shows they've broadcast I don't know (don't have time to investigate right So...could whoever is recording this post a link to the appropriate page? Please? Speaking of live performances, if you were behind the soundboard at the SF Orb show, you could see someone doing live video mixing of concert footage during Witchman's set. They did *not* do this for the Orb set, and I don't know if they did it for Autolump; I was down on the floor for Autolump's set, but since I seemed to be an asshole magnet that night (3 separate incidents of extreme antisocial behavior in the space of Autolump's set), I gave up and joined my companions in the balcony right after Autolump. (My friend has a trick knee and uses a cane; she and my partner parlayed that into being let into the balcony long before the rest of the crowd, and they snagged the best seats in the house.) :D However, the Maritime has two outlets for live video; they stream it, and they also have a syndicated TV program...so...interested parties might want to keep their eyes open, and give a shout to the list if it comes up. 2B1 rotates their stream every so often, and they don't seem to have an accessible archive, so if and when it comes up, you need to nab it fast. 2B1 has also been known to release concert CDs of Maritime shows; I've heard a couple, and they sound great...an Orb concert release would be to die for. :) Chris np: Massive Attack - Singles Box Set # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) OT Daft Punk Date: 03 May 2001 23:07:03 +0200 Digital Love : One of my favorite tracks of the year. Cheesy and melancolic. Great !!! JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Once More: Cauty Mix (blue 12" promo)???? Date: 03 May 2001 14:17:30 -0700 Jason Green wrote: > > > >> The live versions of the songs were excellent too - > >> ONCE MORE! OH MY GOD!!! The live version blew me away! Acapella / more > >> spacy/ethereal vocal intro...then BOOM! Full on electro breakbeat attack! > >> Put some serious energy into that previously poppy tune! > > That's the way ONCE MORE started at Coachella. They were cut off just > > before the > > breakbeat attack. I was sensing it was going to be the Cauty Mix from the > > dark blue > > 12" promo. Wicked! What could have been. Your lucky SF! > WHOA!!!!! Can anyone confirm that this is actually in existence and fits > the description above???? I MUST HAVE THIS IF IT EXISTS!! Anyone???? The version of Once More they played in SF was strictly pre-recorded (everyone left the stage during it), so, whatever you heard is probably available on one of the various promos out there. (Personally, I found that a bit sterile, but without a vocalist, there wasn't much else they could do, I suppose...) And yes, there are two Jimmy Cauty remixes (long and short) of Once More...both promo only, the long version is on one of the 12"s, and the short version is on the promo CD. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLENST@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Once More: Cauty Mix (blue 12" promo)???? Date: 03 May 2001 17:22:19 EDT Howdy kids, jgreen@apple.com wrote: << WHOA!!!!! Can anyone confirm that this is actually in existence and fits the description above???? I MUST HAVE THIS IF IT EXISTS!! Anyone???? >> I was just about to ask, what does the Cauty mix sound like and is it the breakbeat one being discussed ? A week or so before the Once More single was released, Jason Bentley played a version of Once More on the late nite Afterhours show on KROQ here in Los Angeles. This was the same show were he played the original version of Once More waaaay back when that I managed to record. This latest mix was one I never heard and Jason only described it later as "a rather strange mix" of the song. Very heavy beats, not breaks as I classify it, but I can understand it being called as such. Only heard it the one time, which fortunately I managed to record. As Jason Green said, Anyone ???? Ciao, SA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) SF Once More Date: 03 May 2001 14:28:53 -0700 hey orbsters! isn't the track in question the Sourge of the Earth mix from the blue promo lps? dreamy vocals followed by break-ish beats? anyone from the SF show able to confirm? =) rach -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) SF Once More Date: 03 May 2001 16:15:02 -0700 (PDT) I was at the SF show, the version of Once More "played", and by played I mean Alex dropped the needle and then went to take a bathroom break or whatever for the duration, was the Scourge of the Earth Mix off of the blue "promo" 12", it was not altered or fucked with in any way. More info: I downloaded the live 4954 napster track this morning, unfortunately it is just the patterns and textures recording. (still looking for that elusive 5.2.97 recording!) Let's not forget the ft explores satan remix of Once More, Earth (Gaia), Outlands, and the Tsunami One remix of LFC by Adam "Did you see his fucking incredible set at Coachella?!!" Freeland when speaking of tasty Orb breaks ( a breakbeat a day keeps boring trance away!) ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) moby .. one more time, with feeling Date: 03 May 2001 19:15:17 EDT In a message dated 5/2/01 4:05:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smileyweb@yahoo.co.uk writes: << i don't think that they could release it without the songwriter's permission, and lx WAS paid a fee for it's use, afaik. same as moby - he has licensed EVERY track from 'play' for adverts, and been paid for them all. >> I know people that get royalty checks for their songs they wrote 20 years ago that are played on the radio. This means radio anwhere in the world. -- -- -- - -- -Chris in NYC - -- ---- - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay" Subject: (orb) RE: Elvis/Orb tune Date: 03 May 2001 19:30:18 -0400 I also picked up this song on another Elvis double disc "Command Performances - The Essential 60s Master II" Yeah, Alex has most likely mixed it up a bit. I'm still pretty sure that the bass line of the Alex version is taken from a Bentley Rhythm Ace tune (who may have taken it from someone else, of course) off of the self titled disc that was released on cd a few years back. I can't remember which tune it was on the disc, and I'm too lazy to go pull it out and scan it right now. The Alex version seems to be the studio elvis version and possibly some of the live version as well with the bass and drums lines looped for the bridge in the Alex version. It'd be nice if he could release the mix in some way where it's isolated from the rest of the tracks. Alex took a great song and made it better. Oh well, my .02. Take care y'all. --- Jay windorab@home.com http://db.etree.org/windorab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) blue room woman voice Date: 04 May 2001 09:15:52 +0800 > i was just wondering where that sample of the woman's voice comes from > on blue room? > (i think that someone said that it was the mad professor, but didn't say > what song and on what album) yes, the song's called 'fast forward into dub' and is by the mad professor and aisha. there is an MP3 of it floating around Napster, too; if anyone wants me to post it on the OAA, just say so. and yes i have remembered my saying i'll pop up the interview with Alex on the OAA eventually too, i'm getting 'round to it :) womble Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Boyd" Subject: (orb) Live Air stuff Date: 03 May 2001 19:10:56 -0700 Uploading right now to Moresounds: Air - Live at Shepherd's Bush Empire. Darn good quality soundboard recording. A good selection of unreleased songs, too - and the versions of the familiar ones are incredible. In case you forgot the login info, I'm pretty sure it's moresounds.dyn.dhs.org login: anonymous password: your email address I have some other rare Air stuff too, if anybody's interested. Now, can somebody PLEASE get their hands on a copy of the SF Orb show from 4/27 and share it with us all? I would really, really like to experience that show again. I'm thinking that SOMEBODY on this list has got to have it... if so, please let me (and everybody else) know! Thanks, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles and/or Ian" Subject: (orb) RE:Daft Club Date: 03 May 2001 22:10:15 -0400 About Daft Club, worth it for 2 things: a live version of a Homework track and the Basement Jaxx remix of Phoenix. Speaking of which, watch out for Rooty, the new Basement Jaxx album. More of a pop album than the brilliant house refresher Remedy was, but it's still really great. Daft Club also has one of the worst things I've heard in a while: an "unplugged" version of One More Time. Embarassing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) SF Once More Date: 03 May 2001 16:19:33 -0700 isn't the track in question the Sourge of the Earth mix from the blue promo lps? dreamy vocals followed by break-ish beats? anyone from the SF show able to confirm? Like I said before when Once More started at Coachella from what I heard I was sensing it was the Cauty Mix (Sourge of The Earth Mix). I have both the long and short versions and it just sounded as if that's what was going to be played. After the dreamy vocals eveything just went silent on stage. End of show. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew glidden Subject: Re: (orb) Live Air stuff Date: 04 May 2001 00:06:31 -0400 At 07:10 PM 5/3/2001 -0700, you wrote: >>> >Uploading right now to Moresounds: Air - Live at Shepherd's Bush Empire. >Darn good quality soundboard recording. A good selection of unreleased >songs, too - and the versions of the familiar ones are incredible. > >I have some other rare Air stuff too, if anybody's interested. <<< wow, that's awesome...if you could post anything else you've got, i would be your best friend... >>> >Now, can somebody PLEASE get their hands on a copy of the SF Orb show from >4/27 and share it with us all? >I would really, really like to experience that show again. I'm thinking that >SOMEBODY on this list has got to have it... if so, please let me (and >everybody else) know! <<< patience, mah man :) at a minimum, gavin's been recording all these right? knowing the quality of his past stuff, this shouldn't be any disappointment...just wait a bit :) matt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) info on commerical? Date: 03 May 2001 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Hello people, just wondering if any one has info on a commercial LX and co did (the soundtrack) a while back. Not the VW one I repeat NOT the VW one. I remember someone who saw it said it was cool and stuff... I remember reading about it a long time ago here 1,2, maybe 3 years ago. Any one know what the commercial was and if anyone has it recorded? peace out ;-D _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 03 May 2001 16:19:31 -0700 I believe Air is playing the Mayan in LA for two nights in about two months. Don't remember the dates and tickets are not on sale yet. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Friday webcast Date: 03 May 2001 19:09:08 -0700 Sat down and listened to the 3 tracks our hero's didn't get to play at Coachella the other night. The thought occurred to me to play them in my first set this Friday. In our collective there is one completed studio and three in the making (as $$$$$ become available). Friday is DJ night at Studio A and we record to WAV plus webcast live. The best of the sets get mixed into rotation for the webcasts during the rest of the week. We have a long way to go as we max out at 5 listeners. Currently the arrangement is 40-minute sets. I will probably go on with my first set between 6:45 PM to 7:15 PM PDT with a second and possible third (ambient) later into the night and early morning. I understand the server is down today for some updates, but should be up tomorrow. (Valdezdj promises we will be "live" Friday evening) If you care to join us check www.ibizawest.com and click on listen. I always start the first set with the Avengers Theme (kind of an anthem of mine) and I'll drop the tracks into the set at some point. Outlands EDM Thursdays Keeper If you can't join us, enjoy your party this weekend! DJ Edward aka Fountain Valley Lounge Lizard ps If there's any interest I'll throw in the Cauty Long Mix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Friday webcast Date: 03 May 2001 16:19:28 -0700 Sat down and listened to the 3 tracks our hero's didn't get to play at Coachella the other night. The thought occurred to me to play them in my first set this Friday. In our collective there is one completed studio and three in the making (as $$$$$ become available). Friday is DJ night at Studio A and we record to WAV plus webcast live. The best of the sets get mixed into rotation for the webcasts during the rest of the week. We have a long way to go as we max out at 5 listeners. Currently the arrangement is 40-minute sets. I will probably go on with my first set between 6:45 PM to 7:15 PM PDT with a second and possible third (ambient) later into the night and early morning. I understand the server is down today for some updates, but should be up tomorrow. (Valdezdj promises we will be "live" Friday evening) If you care to join us check www.ibizawest.com and click on listen. I always start the first set with the Avengers Theme (kind of an anthem of mine) and I'll drop the tracks into the set at some point. Outlands EDM Thursdays Keeper If you can't join us, enjoy your party this weekend! DJ Edward aka Fountain Valley Lounge Lizard ps If there's any interest I'll throw in the Cauty Long Mix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 10:20:21 -0400 : Digital Love : One of my favorite tracks of the year. : Cheesy and melancholic. Great !!! That's the one! It's awesome and the lyrics are mushy... for us hopeless romantics. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) OT Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 11:10:46 -0400 went through my old AMP recordings and saw a couple of their vids - god bless their cheesy hearts... one vid had a dog walking around with a boom box - the other was "around the world" (really cheesy - too much for me...) *new Lords of Acid kicks ass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 11:15:36 -0400 : *new Lords of Acid kicks ass and you think Daft Punk is cheesy? :) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Live Air stuff Date: 04 May 2001 10:16:05 -0500 > Uploading right now to Moresounds: > Air - Live at Shepherd's Bush Empire. Maybe Pascal could upload the captured rollingstone.com Metro show to the same location...? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) (OT) Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 09:01:52 -0700 While we're on the subject, anyoen catch Fatboy Slim's remix of Madonna? He splices her vocals with Daft Punk's Homework!! It completely crazy, and the best I've heard Madonna sound! =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) (OT) Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 12:06:04 -0400 (EDT) > While we're on the subject, anyoen catch Fatboy Slim's remix of Madonna? > He splices her vocals with Daft Punk's Homework!! It completely crazy, and > the best I've heard Madonna sound! Does anybody know more about this? Is it a bootleg or a legit remix or what? Which song is remixed, I've never heard anything about this.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) (OT) Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 18:06:53 +0200 >While we're on the subject, anyoen catch Fatboy Slim's remix of Madonna? >He splices her vocals with Daft Punk's Homework!! It completely crazy, and >the best I've heard Madonna sound! > >=) >rachel > From which track ? Never heard of a commissioned legit remix by Fatboy Slim of Madonna... JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Semen Subject: Re: (orb) (OT) Daft Punk Date: 04 May 2001 18:31:24 +0200 > While we're on the subject, anyoen catch Fatboy Slim's remix of Madonna? > He splices her vocals with Daft Punk's Homework!! It completely crazy, and > the best I've heard Madonna sound! I've heard this two or three months ago. It is a mix of Madonna's "Music" and Daft Punk's "Da Funk", both normal album versions, not some remixes. It was a very nice combination. AFAIK it is a bootleg (it looked like it), like a kind of limited edition for DJs or something, similar to some other 'strange' stuff like "Spiller vs. Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Groovejet". But this is the first time that I hear it was done by Fatboy Slim - I find this quite hard to believe and I think it's just done by some unknown DJ with a good idea and some extra time... Enjoy. DJ Demon [now listening to: Future Sound of London - Lifeforms] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Eben@Eyebytes.COM Date: 04 May 2001 09:45:38 -0800 (AKDT) I sent mail to you but it bounced. Mail me from another email address if you can. Thanks! (Apologies to the rest of the list for personal messages...) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) cheesburgers and groupies Date: 04 May 2001 15:10:12 EDT <> I could do without the Sushi, but the second part has my full endorsement ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) Live Air stuff Date: 04 May 2001 17:19:34 -0400 the cursed realaudio stream keeps disconnecting about 24 minutes into the show . . . i'm now trying the winmedia stream; hopefully net traffic will be a little less heavy tonight :) i can upload that to moresounds once its done; will get to that probably tomorrow afternoon, as i'm leaving for home shortly. - pascal John Goelzer wrote: > > Uploading right now to Moresounds: > > Air - Live at Shepherd's Bush Empire. > > Maybe Pascal could upload the captured rollingstone.com Metro show to the > same location...? > > JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Live Air stuff Date: 04 May 2001 14:27:17 -0700 "Pascal V. Calarco" wrote: > > the cursed realaudio stream keeps disconnecting about 24 minutes into the > show . . . i'm now trying the winmedia stream; hopefully net traffic will be > a little less heavy tonight :) Try Streambox VCR; it reconnects automatically, and doesn't skip, even if there is heavy traffic. The only disadvantage is that is captures the native RA file, and you have to use Streambox Ripper to convert it to something else. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) shoutcasting tonight Date: 04 May 2001 18:48:12 -0400 (EDT) i'm djing tonight online, so maybe drop in and take a listen. it'll be good music for y'all - i'll do requests, too, just email me them to me. winamp : ctrl+L : 64.152.82.190:3696 micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) whoops (shoutcasting) Date: 04 May 2001 18:57:10 -0400 (EDT) i'll be doing it from 7pm eastern to 10pm-ish eastern. that's important info, eh? ;) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: Re: (orb) centuries - eurofen mix Date: 04 May 2001 17:34:53 -0700 (PDT) > centuries - eurofen mix > > from the 40 minute mix. the only place i've heard > it. does anyone know any > more about this track? AFAIK Eurofen is an excitedly soon to be produced group on the badorb label. Eurofen is part of Lx's infinate structure of a label found here: http://www.badorb.com/ Joeadmiralorb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Double post Date: 04 May 2001 16:18:04 -0700 Sorry for the double post yesterday. After 5 hours I thought maybe it didn't go through the first time. In the end the orginal took about 7 hours till it came back through xmission. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: RE: (orb) Air Date: 05 May 2001 08:02:38 -0400 (EDT) >Chain Reaction FTP, perhaps? Steph? Anyone else? Go ahead, by all means...but it may be down in the weekend. I'll be ready to serve fresh Air on Monday... Until then..?? Later all, Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) New KLF mix ? Date: 05 May 2001 17:31:23 +0200 I know, we're not on the KLF list, but I found today Black Star Liner : Yemen Cutta Connection 2001 Echo Beach GE 12. KLF Remix "Track 12 was made in a green armoured car on a hillside in Devon" Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) klf@xmission.com Date: 05 May 2001 20:59:55 +0100 (BST) jc wrote: > I know, we're not on the KLF list, but I found today > Black Star Liner : Yemen Cutta Connection > 2001 Echo Beach GE > 12. KLF Remix > Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? it's an old mix, but it has only just surfaced commercially. you can order it from www.amazon.de (in stock) or www.amazon.co.uk (4-6 weeks IF they can get it!). it was mentioned on the klf list recently by someone who had it, but didn't really get much response for some reason... ...anyway, now we all know that it DOES exist, and where we can get it. l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) RE: New KLF mix?? Date: 05 May 2001 21:02:03 +0100 (BST) jc wrote: > I know, we're not on the KLF list, but I found today > Black Star Liner : Yemen Cutta Connection > 2001 Echo Beach GE > 12. KLF Remix > Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? it's an old mix, but it has only just surfaced commercially. you can order it from www.amazon.de (in stock) or www.amazon.co.uk (4-6 weeks IF they can get it!). it was mentioned on the klf list recently by someone who had it, but didn't really get much response for some reason... ...anyway, now we all know that it DOES exist, and where we can get it. l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) ftp's Date: 05 May 2001 21:48:37 -0700 is there another FTP besides the moresounds.org one. That one is always full..... I had the address to the OAA, but have since lost it.... l8's Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: (orb) Orb coming to Japan? Maybe? Date: 06 May 2001 18:49:04 +0900 Well, after reading about the SF show (my hometown), I'm really jealous of everyone who got to see the tour. For the time being and the next few years I'm in Japan. Is there any chance for any Japanese tour dates? Come to think of it, is there any site I can look at to see tour dates of my favorite groups? (Thinking of Mouse on Mars, Orbital, heck any non-rock music) Thanks all.. - Bobby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylon@egenius.org Subject: Re: (orb) Orb coming to Japan? Maybe? Date: 06 May 2001 10:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Damn! I saw Orb in 1993 at the Yello Club in Tokyo. It was totally insane. The defining moment of my trip to Japan. Unfortunately the Japanese seem to have no laws about maximum occupancy. It was way to crowded and hot as hell. Also all of my photo's of Alex and just about everything else are blurry since I could not stand still long enough with everyone pushing. I wonder if all of the rest of the clubs I went to then are still around? If anyone on here lives in Tokyo send me a mail. I would really like to purchase 3 t-shirts from Gas Panic in Roppongi. I could pay someone for them. jon babylon@egenius.org > and the next few years I'm in Japan. Is there any chance for any > Japanese tour dates? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: RE: (orb) ftp's Date: 06 May 2001 16:36:46 +0200 Someone have the entire "orb" FTP IP's I've lost them all... I have some great stuff to upload! Cheers, Dr.Winston O'Boogie . http://www.uf-orb.com is there another FTP besides the moresounds.org one. That one is always full..... I had the address to the OAA, but have since lost it.... l8's Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) Orb coming to Japan? Maybe? Date: 06 May 2001 12:38:36 -0400 I don't know about any "omnibus" sites for this, but as far as Orbital is concerned: www.loopz.co.uk is the official Orbital site and is a very good source for their tour dates. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) Orb coming to Japan? Maybe? Date: 07 May 2001 09:52:38 -0600 There was a young Japanese woman in front of me in the signing line at the Denver Virgin. lx was writing "I love Japan" on her promo cardboard thingie, and trying to communicate with her in broken Japanese. Then he passed her over to the tour manager to get free tickets. I think he would go if he could! M Well, after reading about the SF show (my hometown), I'm really jealous of everyone who got to see the tour. For the time being and the next few years I'm in Japan. Is there any chance for any Japanese tour dates? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Anyone have a clue what this is. Date: 07 May 2001 10:58:54 -0500 COLDCUT / THE ORB. Scarborough Fair Remixes. (Six Degrees) Ltd 12" Ł3.99 .... The artist is actually ANOTHER FINE DAY but i'm listing cos of the two great remixes !! I suspect is the same orb vs coldcut session that we've heard before, but I could be wrong. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: (orb) Air: Live @ Metro, Chicago, 11/11/98 Date: 07 May 2001 12:34:38 -0400 I've just finished uploading this to moresounds; about 84MB MP3, encoded @ 160 bits/s, 44.1KHz. enjoy! - pascal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Anyone have a clue what this is. Date: 07 May 2001 20:00:16 +0200 >COLDCUT / THE ORB. Scarborough Fair Remixes. (Six Degrees) Ltd 12" =A33.99 >... The artist is actually ANOTHER FINE DAY but i'm listing cos of the two >great remixes !! > > > >I suspect is the same orb vs coldcut session that we've heard before, but I >could be wrong. > Dont think so. Scarborough Fair is a track from the last Another Fine Day album, which is really great. They're cool also live (saw them at the Big Chill 2000). JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) AFD Date: 07 May 2001 20:02:58 +0200 http://www.climatemusic.com/artists/another/ JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 13:56:09 -0500 anyone know what the spoken sample at the beginning of asylum on orblivion says?? i hear "ya wanna give me a tinkle when you want to....em hmmm." zat right? thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 15:01:36 -0400 (EDT) > anyone know what the spoken sample at the beginning of asylum on orblivion > says?? i hear "ya wanna give me a tinkle when you want to....em hmmm." Rumor has it this is a recording of LX's mom talking to him when he was a child.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 14:05:49 -0500 > anyone know what the spoken sample at the beginning of asylum on orblivion > says?? i hear "ya wanna give me a tinkle when you want to....em hmmm." Rumor has it this is a recording of LX's mom talking to him when he was a child.... ===>SHUT UP! are you serious? so what is she saying?? is that more at the end of bedouin? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 20:06:31 +0100 (BST) john wrote: > anyone know what the spoken sample at the beginning > of asylum on orblivion says?? i hear "ya wanna > give me a tinkle when you want to....em hmmm." zat > right? it's "gimme a tinkle when you want to". it's LX's mum, by the way. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 20:09:11 +0100 (BST) Smiley wrote: > it's LX's mum, by the way. however, it's a recording of her on the phone a few years ago, afaik, and not a recording from when he was young... ...cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) sample ? Date: 07 May 2001 14:16:42 -0500 Smiley wrote: > it's LX's mum, by the way. however, it's a recording of her on the phone a few years ago, afaik, and not a recording from when he was young... ===>ha! that's great. so i take it that lx is close to his mom? btw its mothers day soon so lx, if your listening, you better give your mom a tinkle. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) ftp's Date: 07 May 2001 12:49:46 -0700 24.1.153.3 login = orb password = orb *MoonDogg* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) Coachella - make your opinion heard Date: 07 May 2001 15:24:52 -0700 Hey Kids! Well, for anyone's who's upset about the Coachella debaucle, I highly recommend sending email outlining your disappointment to coachella@goldenvoice.com. (I did, and they forwarded it to the head of concert production.) In all liklihood, the people who planned it weren't aware of what was happening at each stage at all times, so take it upon yourself to let 'em know. (You might save a fan the disappointment we had thrust upon us.) =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) samplespotting Date: 07 May 2001 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Hey folks, found 2 new samples I haven't seen mentioned anywhere On UFOrb, (the song) right before the techno beat kicks in, there is a weird alarm sound... well it's from the famous "Sleeper" w\Woody Allen. Also discovered from Fishermans Friend, Money (the Orb remix) There is a guy laughing that's looped a couple times, well that's from "Sleeper' also. In the movie it's the weird Nazi goy as he's using the Orb... Just thought you'd like to know. _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) oaa mirror Date: 07 May 2001 20:38:38 -0600 I have the connection (i think, might have a 256k cap, not sure though) and the storage space, plus most of what's on the oaa plus some of the others to have an ftp mirror of what's going around. please let me know if anyone thinks this is a good idea or has the time to assist me in attempting some "decent" connect speeds.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 09:00:35 -0500 > it's from the famous "Sleeper" w\Woody Allen. > well that's from "Sleeper' also. I must say I'm actually kind of disappointed to hear this. Given that it's the source of their name, I've always given the Orb mad props for *not* doing the obvious thing and using lots of Sleeper samples; I always thought "hi, I'm Rags" was it. At least they haven't used samples of anyone specifically mentioning "the orb." Have they? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 10:08:32 -0400 > From: John Goelzer > Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:00:35 -0500 > To: "'orb@lists.xmission.com'" > Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting > > >> it's from the famous "Sleeper" w\Woody Allen. >> well that's from "Sleeper' also. > > I must say I'm actually kind of disappointed to hear this. Given that it's > the source of their name, I've always given the Orb mad props for *not* > doing the obvious thing and using lots of Sleeper samples; I always thought > "hi, I'm Rags" was it. > > At least they haven't used samples of anyone specifically mentioning "the > orb." Have they? Well, considering that so far only three or so songs have come up as having "Sleeper" samples in them, I'd say they didn't do the obvious thing, really. Some of us haven't even seen Sleeper yet, so wouldn't know the samples from an Amen break ;) Besides, I always thought that sample in Towers of Dub was "Hello I'm Greg." Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) System 7-rite of spring Date: 08 May 2001 16:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Hi, out thre, found the following: system 7 rite of spring Label: BFLT42 Nr. : 2103299 released 19.1.01 TRACKLISTE system 7 - rite of spring (orig) system 7-rite of spring (dancefloor) system 7- rite of spring (doc scott) system 7-rite of spring (filter) system 7-rite of spring ( 7 miles high) Do anyone know it??? Besides theres the new Alphawave remix of course, CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 17:35:05 +0200 > > it's from the famous "Sleeper" w\Woody Allen. >> well that's from "Sleeper' also. > >I must say I'm actually kind of disappointed to hear this. Given that it's >the source of their name, I've always given the Orb mad props for *not* >doing the obvious thing and using lots of Sleeper samples; I always thought >"hi, I'm Rags" was it. > >At least they haven't used samples of anyone specifically mentioning "the >orb." Have they? > >JG > Actually, LX did. On Textures... 'the orb, the orb, the orb' JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Agust A J Subject: Re: (orb) System 7-rite of spring Date: 08 May 2001 15:54:57 +0000 At 16:28 8.5.2001 +0200, Christoph wrote: >found the following: > >system 7 >rite of spring > >Label: BFLT42 >released 19.1.01 > >TRACKLISTE >system 7 - rite of spring (orig) >system 7-rite of spring (dancefloor) >system 7- rite of spring (doc scott) >system 7-rite of spring (filter) >system 7-rite of spring ( 7 miles high) > >Do anyone know it??? >Besides theres the new Alphawave remix of course, this is sounds almost identical to the original release (BFLD42). the only diff I can see is the old ep had a 'radio edit', and not the '7 miles high' mix otherwise the same Rite of Spring, BFLD42: Radio Edit 4:02 Origin Mix 8:57 Doc Scott Mix 6:43 Dancefloor Mix 9:46 Filter Mix 8:37 what are the track times on the ep you got? --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nem1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) voyages into paradise / dub trees / pole / orb concert pictures Date: 08 May 2001 13:36:16 EDT > just got "Dr Alex Pattersons voyage into paradise........very good....i'm > only on the second track....which as i look at the titles , is a song > familiarly from dub trees. > Its a different mix though. > > anyone diggin Pole like i am these days? just got red , yellow , and blue. > beautiful stuff. > One of those bands (for me) that you have to listen to a couple times first , > then they grab on unexpectedly like a leech from some other planet and dont > let you go. I've gone to sleep the past couple nights listening with > headphones. > Lastly.....i finally have gotten to hear where LX got the sample from blue > room of the girl singin "waowaowaoaoaowauwoauwooauw" > (what an amazingly fun sound to type.) > Its from a reggae set LX spun which Gavin traded me whhile i burned him some > rare floyd on his south florida orb tours. Its LX spinning before Juno > Reactor ,i wish i new the female artist so i could get it....anyone have o > clean version on cd? > (i'm hearing KLF chill out samples in the paradise cd at this moment" > anyway.....there are some good or pictures up at our site from the kickoff > tour in boynton http://www.alienoutpost.com/index2.htm some of the > last few are of LX being kind enough to show me in detail his setup , and > talk some BS.with silly old me. > peace > LiquidW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) jam on yer honey Date: 08 May 2001 15:44:29 -0600 is there anyone out there who could upload this? i've yet to hear it and can't find it anywhere... Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) AIR to perform at Hammerstein Ballroom..... (fwd) Date: 08 May 2001 18:21:16 -0400 (EDT) I don't think this went through last time, so I'm re-posting it. :) People seemed to be all interested in live air, so here's some now... Anyone who lives in NYC should go to this. Except me. I am boycotting hammerstein ballroom, no matter how cool the act is. Anyone who wants to know why contact me offline. :) -------------------- If you can't view this page: Cut & Paste this link into your Web Browser http://www.concerthotline.com/Blastgfx/air062101.htm AIR, with special guest Sebastien Tellier, will be performing at the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC on June 21st in support of their new album "10,000 Hz. Legend" available everywhere May 29th on Astralwerks. Tickets will be available to the public beginning Friday, May 11th, but you have an opportunity to get them before they're onsale to the public!! Simply click on the link below beginning Thursday, May 10th at 10am to get your tickets first! http://search.ticketmaster.com:81/gen?_template=/templates/tm/calendar/production/html/venue.jsp&vax_name=ny1&venue_num=280 Tell your friends to sign up at www.concerthotline.com to get access to early internet onsales, the latest concert information and chances to win free tickets. Thanks and see you at the show! If you don't want to receive any more of these messages reply with remove in the subject # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew glidden Subject: Re: (orb) AIR to perform at Hammerstein Ballroom..... (fwd) Date: 08 May 2001 18:27:26 -0400 At 06:21 PM 5/8/2001 -0400, you wrote: >AIR, with special guest Sebastien Tellier, will be performing at the >Hammerstein >Ballroom in NYC on June 21st in support of their new album "10,000 Hz. Legend" >available everywhere May 29th on Astralwerks. yup, it sounds like they're going all over..playing in boston as well (and i know a few other places, but i forget where and am too lazy to check). haven't heard Sebastien Tellier, but i guess air's got a new label and his album is the first release... matt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Island Sampler Date: 08 May 2001 16:19:29 -0700 Recently picked up a sampler that should probably be listed in the "compilation appearances" section of the discography. (Lazlo!) [Once More] [on Various: Pure Island: Winter Sampler 2001] CD: 2001 UK (Universal Island; PURECD 1) (Promo) 4:21 Once More The time is different than on any of the other versions I have, and it states Produced & Mixed By The Orb and Andy Hughes. Andy's name isn't listed as a mixer on any of the others I have either. It does have a bleep or two that I don't remember in all the other versions. A friend has mentioned that "Q" magazine has a CD on the cover of the current issue and that "Once More" is a track on the disc. Anyone care to elaborate on that one? I want to apologize to anyone that might have tried to access our webcast last Friday evening. Studio A's owner didn't show up till 7:30 PDT which was past the window I had stated I would throw down the Orb tracks. We did have a couple of hits once I got on (about 7:45). If it was anyone on the list, thanks for tuning in. Edward aka FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 16:33:54 -0700 Subject: RE: (orb) Island Sampler - exclusive mix/edit?? Date: 09 May 2001 00:58:23 +0100 I also have this sampler, and hadn't bothered listened to it until the mail below!! I mainly got it for The Orb's track, but also for U2, Shaggy, Talvin Singh, Macy Gray & PJ Harvey... It *is* definately different from the "released" version of Cydonia... To my untuned ears (and track times, of course), it doesn't match... It actually sounds like different notes (higher notes & echoes) & drumbeats to any version I've listened to, and also fades out at the end... And, sad to say, I've just listened to 4 different versions on the trot (Version 1 CDR, Version 2 CDR, Released Album Version, Single Edit, Island Sampler)!! As for the Q Magazine sampler, that was the straight single version (3:55). There & again, the version of Shaggy's "It Wasn't Me" sounds different to me as well!! l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > Recently picked up a sampler that should probably > be listed in the "compilation appearances" section > of the discography. (Lazlo!) > > [Once More] > [on Various: Pure Island: Winter Sampler 2001] > CD: 2001 UK (Universal Island; PURECD 1) (Promo) > 4:21 Once More > > The time is different than on any of the other versions > I have, and it states Produced & Mixed By The Orb and > Andy Hughes. Andy's name isn't listed as a mixer on > any of the others I have either. It does have a bleep > or two that I don't remember in all the other versions. > > A friend has mentioned that "Q" magazine has a CD on the > cover of the current issue and that "Once More" is a track > on the disc. Anyone care to elaborate on that one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 20:10:18 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 8 May 2001, Ed wrote: > I've got a video copy I got off of cable years ago if everybody want's > to come over Saturday night to watch. can we bring our sleeping bags? micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) 11,600 miles, 1250 emails, 25 days, 13 gigs... Date: 08 May 2001 17:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Hello everybody! I did it - made it to every Orb gig across the US, and taped every one. With the exception of the Boston gig, they're all complete. This was quite the adventure, ended up making friends with the entire Orb crew, gained all access at the Granada show for the remainder of the tour, got comped into Coachella, Even hung out with Meat Beat Manifesto back stage at the Maritime hall gig. Thanks to everybody who helped me along the way, and for saying "hi" at the shows. Well worth the time, money, and new friendships made along the way. I have so much email to get through (exceeded my 7 meg quota), so I'll go into more detail later. Gavin Oh, and if you're ever in NY and Ben In Space offers to meet up for a drink, a show, etc. DO IT! He's one of the most genuine people I've ever met. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 21:17:33 -0400 > > I've got a video copy I got off of cable years ago if everybody want's to > come over Saturday night to watch. And where are you? ;) I'm in the Washington, DC area, myself. Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Re: [Tapers-Filmers] Re: Moby summer tour Date: 08 May 2001 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT) The chicago stop has: Main Stage: Moby, Outkast, Incubus, The Roots, Nelly Furtado. 2nd stage: Paul Oakenfold, Carl Cox, The Orb (tape them!), Rinocerose. "Innovators" stage: Juan Atkins, Derrik May, Kevin Saunderson www.areafestival.com Gavin --- gaobest@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/25/01 8:27:33 AM, > ckathens@yahoo.com writes: > > >Anyone have a website with information on who is > >playing on various dates of this tour?? > > actually does anyone have this info? i'm hoping now > to go to 3 of the west > coast shows - vancouver, gorge, and shoreline; but > i'm not yet sure which > bands i'll be taping at all, since i have no idea > hwo's even playing those > shows aside from new order and moby; i really just > was planning on new order > but of course it's a shame to not tape the others. > So any info is > appreciated, ta. > > mike xx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Schwartz Subject: (orb) New Tour Dates Date: 08 May 2001 18:44:02 -0700 Hey, The Orb is going to be touring on a thing called Area:One Festival this summer. Dates are posted at http://www.areaonefestival.com/ Artists include Moby, OutKast, Paul Oakenfeld, Carl Cox, and more... I'll be at the show at the Gorge in Washington... anyone else going? BS -- Brad A. Schwartz http://www.baschwar.com Home of the Printmakers List | '78 \X/ Rabbit 2.0 | '01 \X/ Jetta 1.8t | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) New Tour Dates Date: 08 May 2001 21:58:02 -0500 > The Orb is going to be touring on a thing called > Area:One Festival this summer. > > Artists include Moby, OutKast, Paul Oakenfeld... Who is this Moby? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 08 May 2001 18:25:03 -0700 Sounds like a great idea. Uh oh, I'm going to be on double secret probation again.......... >can we bring our sleeping bags? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: (orb) Welcome Back Gavin! Date: 09 May 2001 10:24:31 -0400 I'm glad your tour was a success. Sounds like things really worked out for you through out the tour. I'll say it again, You're so hard-core! :-) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Thomas Fehlmann never sleeps ! Date: 09 May 2001 17:41:40 +0200 MALARIA "Malaria! Versus" (Superstar, Germany) CD $24.99 RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/tfehlman.rm RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/sunelect.rm One of the more popular bands of the NDW (Neue Deutsche Welle or 'german new wave') movement of the early '80s, back again in remixed form, in part due to the attention of Chicks On Speed, whose cover of 'Kaltesklareswasser' (a minor hit in Germany) starts off this disc. But "Versus" isn't really just a remix album, nor is it solely a tribute record. For instance, Solex's version of 'Your Turn to Run' bears little resemblance to its inspiration, a kind of brilliant 'cover' in which she arranges samples in more or less the same rhythms and tones as the original. Malaria's brand of dead-voxed no wave, stiffer than Liliput but more yielding than The Normal, lends itself exceptionally well to a 'traditional' style remix (cut it up, add some beats), as Thomas Fehlmann provides (RA above). Malaria's flat vocals, a kin to techno's tribe, complement the beats rather than being the contrast of a liquidy house diva. Somehow, early German no-wave and electronics captured the voice of the disillusioned in their numb beats better than anyone else. Other participants include Barbara Morgenstern, Sun Electric, and Matador, the last being the contemporary project of Malaria's Gudrun Gut (who also runs the Monika record label and is paid by the German government to teach electronic music skills to young women specifically. European arts funding=D6sigh.) JCFrom Paris -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 10:20:56 -0600 http://www.geocities.com/sarajstt/orbinfo.html Justin Meredith Meter Associate > 5678 > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: NEW ORB REMIX Date: 09 May 2001 17:37:33 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com afternoon all. just to confirm an earlier message on the list about an orb mix of a track by 'another fine day'. i got a promo 12" of the remix today, which also includes a 13-minute Coldcut remix and a mix from Tom Green (it's his group). details below: another fine day - scarborough fair 12" (2001; Climate / Six Degrees; 657036 60041) Blank white-labels with press / dj reaction sheets a. cutting branches (coldcut mix) b1. scarborough fair (orb's hairborough fair mix) b2. scarborough fair (another fine dub mix) i won't get to play it before friday, but i'll let the list know what it's like once i do. l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Blanch" Subject: (orb) Cydonia... Date: 09 May 2001 16:48:17 -0000 OK, after numerous times of trying to download something of Cydonia, I am giving up. I now really want to hear the album as a whole and am in need of some kind person letting me download the mp3 files of it - anyone? I am finding it impossible to get into any of these FTP sites, I think there are just too many people want want wanting all the time...grrrrr....please let someone like me have a chance! I am sorry if it sounds like whinging, I don't mean to I just wanna here the album properly before I buy it...so if anyone can help me or show/tell me of a place I can download the album in its entirety on the net somewhere then please do help.... *cries* Lee. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 12:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Those 'orbs' look suspiciously like those refractive dots that appear when a lens is angled in a certain way towards (or away from) a light source... james P.S. Hey Justin, what's a "meter associate?" > http://www.geocities.com/sarajstt/orbinfo.html > > Justin Meredith > Meter Associate > > 5678 > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia... Date: 09 May 2001 13:30:15 -0400 The early versions were FTP'd for two reasons: a) 4 years in the making. Orb fans starving. Nuff said. b) The album version barely resembles v.1 and v.2 of Cydonia, (which is probably what you'll find on the FTP servers) So, I recommend you buy it (Lx needs to eat too) and d/l the promo's for comparison once it's done. Also, if you're state-side... you should get the import version, since it has an extra track ("EDM") which is quite good. Not to come down on you for being an MP3 pirate, since i have 30gb+ of tunes myself, but now that the album has been properly released. Hook a brother up! [the brother(s) in question would be Lx, Andy, et al.] .peace in the east. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 13:35:50 -0400 that is a possibility - i guess it is how you want to interpret them... >Those 'orbs' look suspiciously like those refractive dots that >appear when a >lens is angled in a certain way towards (or away from) a light >source... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 13:36:39 -0400 Oh, yeah, that's lens flare, but most likely from the dust in the air in that basement. Have you ever taken a photograph in when snow is falling, and you have the flash on? You also get nice bright things floating in air... Actually, you see that frame-like thing on the left and upper sides of the picture? Looks like they were shooting through a pane of glass, which would accentuate the reflections. Cool photo, though. --Justin Roby > From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca > Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:37:52 -0400 (EDT) > To: Orb Mailing List > Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 > > > Those 'orbs' look suspiciously like those refractive dots that appear when a > lens is angled in a certain way towards (or away from) a light source... > > > james > > > P.S. Hey Justin, what's a "meter associate?" > >> http://www.geocities.com/sarajstt/orbinfo.html >> >> Justin Meredith >> Meter Associate >>> 5678 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (orb) [Fwd: LFW: Words: Songs Written by The Bee Gees] Date: 09 May 2001 11:11:34 -0700 Looks like the Orb's collaboration with Robbie Williams is getting a re-release, in a more robust package: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005ALLC/o/qid=989400124/sr=2-3/202-9444529-8365415 Chris np: Mixmaster Morris @ Dublab 12/21/99 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:15 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 13:38:47 -0500 Those 'orbs' look suspiciously like those refractive dots that appear when a lens is angled in a certain way towards (or away from) a light source... ===>no way man! that one orb peering through the door bares a strong resemblance to elvis. i think he's holding a microphone and singing "a-hunk-a-hunk-a-burning love". either that or is those funny little "orbs" that mysteriously appear from a number of different scenarios. like dust or condensation in/on the lens or from stray light bouncing around in the camera lens. i want to believe its elvis!! john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:56:45 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 12:56:41 -0600 someone should try and see if they can duplicate an "orb" on film - or at least musically... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Bryan" Subject: (orb) Bruce Hornsby - Harbor Lights...French horn player Date: 09 May 2001 14:58:34 -0400 http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1737515036/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIN D/album.html/artistid=HORNSBY*BRUCE/itemid=329654 Alan B. Paterson : French Horn Dr. Alex Paterson : French Horn I think someone might have mentioned this before. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:09:42 -0400 Date: 09 May 2001 13:09:46 -0600 i don't have a camera or i would do it, too... >someone should try and see if they can duplicate an "orb" on >film - or at least musically... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: (orb) F** sights (sic) and couple o' you gots? Date: 09 May 2001 13:04:27 -0700 Hello all - First, there is much ado about FT* sites with OOP/rare Orb stuff. Can someone please post a definitive list of such sites, as I have failed to find much, even searching through list archives. Of particular interest are the J. Cauty mix of "Once More" (why the hell is that one promo only? Thanks, Island/MCA or whoever....), as well as the Ultrabass mix of Perp. Dawn. As well as live stuff - I particularly liked the Orbvs Terrarvm tour. Next, if anyone has a vinyl copy of either of the above, or Live93 for that matter, that they are willing to sell - let me know. I find such a scenario hard to imagine, but being that I am a vinyl-only dj (nothing against cd djs; I just don't like messing with cds) perhaps there's some soul out there that for some reason has both formats and can part with one, or something.... Alternatively, if anyone has found a good source for rare/OOP stuff (other than EBay, which I do check periodically), let me know. And, this was pretty hard to find; I don't know if knowledge of this thing's apparent existence is widespread or not - but this product would fix a lot of problems - of course, affording it for the purpose of being able to spin a few more records out would be sort of absurd: http://www.vinylium.ch/stuka/dubcut.html Thanks and take care - Tim C "What is your one purpose in life?" "To explode, of course." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) samplespotting Date: 09 May 2001 16:10:49 -0700 > > I've got a video copy I got off of cable years ago if everybody want's to > come over Saturday night to watch. And where are you? ;) I'm in the Washington, DC area, myself. Fountain Valley, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) LX's Payola for VW New Beetle ad Date: 09 May 2001 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) > > Ergo, its doubtful that alex or anyone else from > the > > band made any money personally from this song > being > > used in a commercial, nor is it terribly likely > that > > they even had any say in its being used... > > i don't think that they could release it without the > songwriter's permission, and lx WAS paid a fee for > it's use, afaik. According to the November/December 1998 issue of Thousand Words: LX was paid for the use of LFC in the VW New Beetle ad - in the form of a new Beetle. He said he didn't keep it for he doesn't drive. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) bootlegged techniques Date: 10 May 2001 12:36:33 -0400 (EDT) A while back we were discussing bootlegging techniques and I remember thinking (and posting about as well) having some sort of transmitting device for bootlegging in a venue not down with the practice... Well, I have found such a device! I was looking for some way to hook up the DVD in my computer which is in my bedroom to the TV which is in my living room. I went to rat shack and pickup up this neat little transmitter/reciever component combo, cost me about $80 for the pair. They are about the size of two packs of cigarettes each and weigh nothing. They operate in the 2.4GHz range and have FM settings so you can choose one of 4 modulations with the least noise. They take either the triple RCA connectors (you see for instance on a playstation) or a coaxial cable and can transmit the data up to 100 feet (according to the box, could be more I haven't tested this). But the point is, all you'd need to do is smuggle in the transmitter and you could record on any device you want in a car or something outside the venue. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) AFD Orb remix Date: 10 May 2001 19:15:50 +0200 Available in Sister Ray ANOTHER FINE DAY: Scarborough Fair (Orb+Coldcut Mixes) 12" 4.99 www.sisterray.co.uk JCFromParis -- 21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the Concorde go faster... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) AFD Orb remix Date: 10 May 2001 13:34:44 -0400 if you don't mind waiting 3 months... >Available in Sister Ray > >ANOTHER FINE DAY: Scarborough Fair (Orb+Coldcut Mixes) 12" 4.99 > >www.sisterray.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) F** sights (sic) and couple o' you gots? Date: 10 May 2001 19:25:23 +0100 I wouldn't waste your breath trying to get a definitive list of FTP sites. As for Acetates [or dubplates] - the problem with them is that they don't last more than a couple of plays, BECAUSE of the way they are made i.e. with acetate lacquer. I know of people who have had their own pressed up just to play, but as I'm sure you'll know, after a few plays they are generally old hat anyway so it defeats the point of making a longer lasting record if you like. Feel free to give me my egg back when you like, but acetates are used to press up a small number of records to see what the pressing sounds like i.e. it may have sounded great at the master stage or in the studio, but what does it actually sound like on a record player? The question then, is what do you do with them? they tend to get pushed round to radio stations or the odd top flight DJ so they can give them a couple of spins **well** in advance of even white label/promo stage. I know this because I've got some, and one of them was sent to a Radio 1 DJ with a hand written sheet saying how many were pressed up etc and where the others went. Test pressings are what they sound like, test pressings to make sure the "proper" pressing i.e. not the [typically] one sided metal acetate plays ok. I've got loads of these and they are generally from one or two makers. After this, it's white label time or promo if the record company has some money and wants to make it official. The reason that mixes of Once More were not released is that they were done for DJ or club use only. The main purpose of [most] promos is to generate interest and give a track another angle or potential audience - how much club play would the radio version of once more got? not much. Phew....I'm not quite sure if you wanted to know that or not....the other question was getting hold of vinyl from a non Ebay source. I'm going to sound very unhelpful here - there are plenty of online sources for OOP or promo vinyl. Some are expensive, some are out of date, some are cheap but unorganised - I'm sure UK list members know who I'm talking about in each case ;-) Let me know, and I'll give you a list of the ones I use on a regular basis. You'd be surprised at how much stuff you can get hold of with a bit of perseverance and cash............You're right, Ebay can be a rip off, and it's not the first time I've got carried away and paid 40 quid for something I've seen a couple of months later for less than a tenner. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) bootlegged techniques Date: 10 May 2001 13:51:20 -0500 ""I went to rat shack and pickup up this neat little > transmitter/reciever component combo"" Is Rat Shack online; and what is the component called? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) bootlegged techniques Date: 10 May 2001 16:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Sorry guys, I should have been more specific. Rat shack = radio shack, so their website is www.radioshack.com. http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F002%5F004%5F004%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D1972 Is the product. Its called a 2.4GHZ Wireless Room-to-Room Audio/Video Sender... The range appears to be pretty limited, but you could boost the signal any number of ways. :) On Thu, 10 May 2001, Martin Wallace wrote: > > ""I went to rat shack and pickup up this neat little > > transmitter/reciever component combo"" > > Is Rat Shack online; and what is the component called? > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) speaking of bootlegs... Date: 10 May 2001 16:09:06 -0500 Per Steph's recommendation (cf. "Live boot quality"), I downloaded the 1997 Roskilde set and was, as promised, blown away by how good it sounds. Might someone who's really familiar with the other bootleg sets (like the ones available on the Chain Reaction FTP) recommend a few other shows that are of similar high quality? Thanks... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) Area One- is it Orb? Date: 10 May 2001 16:45:09 -0700 Just wondering if anyone has heard yet if it is the Orb playing or just LX. I'll probably go either way- but it will be a lot less painful to spend $65 for the whole meal deal. Has anyone caught Autechre on their tour yet? They'll be playing here next week. OK bye bye __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew glidden Subject: Re: (orb) Area One- is it Orb? Date: 10 May 2001 19:51:07 -0400 At 04:45 PM 5/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone caught Autechre on their tour yet? They'll be playing here next >week. yup..saw 'em monday...can't say that i'm too familiar with their music at all (i don't own any)...it was pretty decent, i s'pose...they played here (boston) with 3 pretty, uhh, noisy groups before autechre went on, so i may have been a little burnt out on that..so autechre's set was interesting, fairly abstract i guess you could say...beats were all over the place... so i guess if you like 'em, i'm pretty confident you'll like 'em...as for me, i'm glad i went (for $12), but glad it didn't cost much more ;-) matt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) More bootlegs... Date: 11 May 2001 04:25:12 -0400 (EDT) People! >Per Steph's recommendation (cf. "Live boot quality"), I downloaded the 1997 Roskilde set and was, as promised, blown away by how good it sounds. Especially how it starts....a great version of Terminus, containing much more samples than the album version... >Might someone who's really familiar with the other bootleg sets (like the ones available on the Chain Reaction FTP) recommend a few other shows that are of similar high quality? I don't know which bootleg sets you mean, but I removed all live shows from CR ftp to gain some hd space.. :-< . Iirc, however, there were some live boots of great quality in the big pile of stuff from the mp3-project (e.g. Manchester 1992, Birmingham Institute 1993, Brixton Academy 1993, Quart Festival 1994). I can put these up again, if people are interested, but some of these may already be found on other ftp-sites... Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Blanch" Subject: (orb) OK, I bought Cydonia, here's a little personal review...(A MILE LONG...) Date: 11 May 2001 11:44:33 -0000 Haha! I have just bought Cydonia! And as a whole I must say that I think it's the Orb doing a fantastic job! And yes, I got into their early stuff (being from the UK and all) before the 1995 onward stuff so I know what I am talking about! I think the album itself is very intertextual (Orbital also do this in 'The Altogether' by sampling the first track of the previous album in the third to last track, I think...) - lots of references to earlier tracks and the sampled they use when they play live, especially the FFWD "sample" in Terminus - I put the word "sample" in speech marks because it's kind of a reprise really isn't it? Nothing done before...but besides this I think some areas are great, the very beginning (first 10 seconds) of Once More could have afforded to be a minute or two longer as it's the most comforting and Orb like thing I've heard in ages, and really, I just wish they didn't do a vocal track. The lyrics are quite pretentious aren't they? Promis is one of my favourite tracks on there, I love how it keeps threatening drum'n base at you then rips the beat away from you, quite reminiscent of Delta MKII, with it's dipping of the drum n' bass in and out of water effect. I also like the lovely string sample they use, it give the whole thing that playfullness the Orb are good at, like in LFC for example. Ghostdancing I like anyway, mainly because I am just used to it from listening to the MP3 so much, chilled out and mixed well with Promis. The two go well together. The female vocal sounds to be in a similar vein to that of Orbital's work, which seems to go on throughout all the vocal tracks in the album. Turn it Down is another good track, you can see the reggae influences here, although the sample could have been truncated a little as I think it detracts from the rest of the track. Back in the UFOrb days, I don't think a sample lasted for longer than a few seconds bar Towers of Dub, but that was a different story. A few years ago the Orb were saying how Drum n' bass is the future of dance music, although this hasn't become entirely true, it's just one little aspect of dance. For the Orb it now seems a lot more prominent than their old ambient-house sound like in Majestic. Although some of the beats can be refreshing in this album it should be noted that maybe they should do something with a more constant and up-tempo dance beat like in earlier albums? I can think of several tracks on here, where they would be made more exciting and interesting to listen to had they been offered a house beat instead. Egnable is a just another example of the Orb's sense of humour. But Firestar is such a funky little number, you wish the obscurity of its presence persisted for another 10 minutes, it would easily have made best track on here purely for it's funk and sense of humour. It also seems to be going off in its own little vein of reference to 80's dance and electronic music, i.e. Kraftwerk. It you listen to a few big dance albums out now, especially Daft Punk and Orbital's latest albums, they refer heavily to older forms of Dance, Daft Punk use 80's funk and hip hop heavily and Orbital seem to go one step further and sound like early 90's dance music. The Orb seem to be doing the same with this track but in a stranger manner. A Mile Long Lump of Lard is another Fave of mine. I remember them playing this at The Royal Albert hall and it was monsterous. It just sounds like a gigantic monster coming to getcha. I can imagine it would suit a 2001 version game of Pac-man quite well. From here on the album starts to weaken, and also I haven't really paid as much attention to it as the earlier sections. Plum Island and Centuries both seem average as vocal tracks but they are too slow, they should have taken a leaf out of The Shamen's book, there was always optimism in their work, from Move Any Mountain, all the way up to Destination Eschaton - the pace was up-tempo and catchy yet interesting at the same time. Hamlet of Kings seems to let the album down somewhat, its as if they had way too many stock-sounds and just threw it all together. I like the magical sound they use but once again it's just a tad too slow and middle of the road, as far as dance music is concerned. If you're gonna do a chill out record, OOBE rather than Hamlet, please. The stop starting of the beats just makes the whole peice sound uneasy and incomplete. Something more subtle and otherworldly may have made the piece more interesting. I think the Orb go a bit silly when they try to make the soundtrack to a vocal song, and for gods sake stop stealing from Pomme Fritz! 1,1,1, is basically A Sticky Mess with a beat to it. Nice. EDM is ok but it doesn't seem to get anywhere or create anything other than an ok introduction to the next track... Thursday's Keeper is a good track. I think it's full of personality and reminds me a little of Are We Here by Orbital. Don't ask why, it just seems like a good, full, complete track and hence, is satisfying to listen to as far as beats are concerned. It also highlights the Orb's excellence at the manipulation of sound, samples and stereo and the development of a catchy riff, an interesting amalgamation of guitar and drum n' bnass. And here we go....back to the beginning for Terminus ladies and gentlemen... Anyway, let me know what you think. Take care guys... Lee. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) New Orb single? Date: 11 May 2001 14:42:35 +0200 Hey, when they are going to release second single from Cydonia??? It's been four months since Once More... -- == http://i.am/marcolphus ====== Fluke & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Area One- is it Orb? Date: 11 May 2001 12:21:33 -0400 Yeah, them and Tortoise will be in Orlando, FL on May 22. I'm definitely going! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brad Subject: (orb) Dr. Axle Twatterson's Voyage Into Paradise Date: 11 May 2001 11:26:24 -0700 Hey all, I just received my copy of Dr. Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise today... Track Listing Nomads of Dub - Spirals 7:19 Dub Trees - Buffalo 10:44 Sons of Arqa - Albatross 3:51 The Rob - 4 Horseman 6:45 Kiosk - Pip in the Pudding 2:17 Killing Joke - Requiem 9:30 Industrial Suicide Tribe - Aqua Sufi 15:07 Easy - D'ya Dig' 6:23 untitled 0:53 Also a web link / info to www.liquidsounddesign.com I'll let ya know what its like... BS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Dr. Axle Twatterson's Voyage Into Paradise Date: 11 May 2001 13:33:35 -0500 Track Listing Dub Trees - Buffalo 10:44 ===>hey does anyone know where i could get a copy of dub trees without waiting a really long time to get it? or paying a ton for it. i'm in the states - madison, wisconsin to be exact and i can't seem to find a single shop that knows what i'm talking about when i mention dub trees. thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*christine *" Subject: (orb) Fwd: [604] * JUST ADDED TO THE LINE UP * THE ORB! Date: 11 May 2001 13:47:23 -0700 solipse2001 - http://www.solipse.com The Orb has just been added to the line up on the Solipse festival in Zambia Africa. They will be playing just after the Full Solar Eclipse on the 21st of June. www.solipse.com Pass it on. Peace ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to solipsemail-unsubscribe@listbot.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AMKontrabecki Subject: (orb) OT - I'll be in SF next week...anyone? Date: 11 May 2001 19:21:46 -0700 Hey all. As luck would have it I'm going to be petsitting in San Francisco the last two weeks of May and was looking to meet up with any Orbhead interested [Seofon maybe?]. My Girlfriend and I are really into restaurants/good food and I'll be trying to find records shops...but in general will tolerate just about anything...Did that make sense? Please respond off list, thanks Andrew M. Kontrabecki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) bored friday night shoutcasting Date: 11 May 2001 19:50:53 -0400 (EDT) winamp : ctrl+L : 64.152.82.190:3696 requests taken! micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: (orb) please help me find once more 12"s Date: 11 May 2001 21:51:08 -0700 greetings yall, having recently procured a record player, i now have an intense craving for the once more 12"s...not so much the crappy bedrock mixes/etc, but the jimi cauty mix (scourge of the earth) and the "ft explores satan" mix..i've got the mp3's of these, but now i want the real deal (holyfield). anyway, i've looked around online, but only found it once place for 19.99 and i'm not sure they even had it in stock...i saw that hmv.co.uk has the 12", but the tracks are for the one i don't want (although it lists for format 12" = 4.99 and another 12" = 6.99, but doesn't say any difference..mightn't this be 2 different singles?) anyway, if anyone knows where i could get my hands on this, i'd be extremely appreciative...also, is the "ft explores satan" mix even on 12"? thanks, matt. WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Badorb Date: 12 May 2001 13:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Hi, Whats going on here ? Did Garphoo speak to anyone? CY, christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: (orb) Intro & Q+A Date: 12 May 2001 15:51:51 EDT Just wanted to say hello to everyone - if you haven't guessed I'm new to = this list. Anyway, my name's Susan (call me Spu), and I'm a fledling orb fan, having heard one or two of their songs b4 but never much checking them ou= t until a friend made me a tape about a year ago, and I've been hooked sinc= e! Saw the shows recetly in Detroit (where I'm from) and Toronto. = Anyway, I wanted to add my 2 cents to some questions I saw others had thi= s morning. = Re badorb: As far as I knew, we were supposed to be able to order as of yesterday, but I've had no luck. Someone asked had anyone heard anything= from Garphoo - does this mean you are having similar problems? Re Once More mixes: I was able to find the 3 12" promos fairly cheaply, a= nd they have the mixes you're looking for. The brown one has ft explores sa= tan, and the blue one has scourge of the earth. I got the brown at a local st= ore, and the blue and green on ebay. Hope that helps! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "decay" Subject: (orb) FW: Cydonia V2 Date: 12 May 2001 18:32:05 -0400 I just got in the mail from the uk a promo cd of the Cydonia Version 2 cd It came with an envelope with someone's address from CO. in it. Am I supposed to pass it on or something? I can't remember how I got on a list or if I purchased it through ebay or something? If anyone knows anything, please email me. Thanks Regis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: (orb) FTP Date: 12 May 2001 18:51:41 -0700 Is anyone who has an FTP server interested in commercially unreleased Loop Guru or Banco de Gaia? And would anyone be interested in downloading it? =) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 12 May 2001 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) > Witchman told me that in addition to the Moby > opening dates, the Orb would > do their own headlining swing back through the > states Well, if that's the case I hope they're looking to hire a recording engineer to come along with them... I'd love to follow them again, but that was a LOT of driving. Nonetheless, I think I'll attend the Area:One show in Chicago because the Orb is there (I can't get enough of these guys!!!! I'm (as quoted by Simon) "Fuckin' Mental!" AND if they do swing by again on the club circuit, I'll hit more than 1 show GUARANTEED. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: (orb) OT: Buzz Date: 12 May 2001 22:14:21 -0700 Does anyone remember a TV show called "Buzz," co-produced by Jon Klein and Mark Pellington for Channel Four and MTV Europe? It aired in the states on MTV in 1990. I was just remembering how the video and sound design made it interestingly mind-altering it was to watch, and wishing I'd had a working VCR at the time. If you have any episodes on videotape, please contact me off the list at seofon@slip.net and accept my advance thanks! -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Blanch" Subject: Re: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 13 May 2001 12:06:15 -0000 OK, so if the orb are going back through america to tour why the hell aren't they playing more dates in the UK? Considering this is where they come from and originally started. I am also extremely annoyed that the furthest South they toured in the UK was bloody Bristol and London! It's as if nothing exists below the Watford gap! Is the Orb ever gonna tour the UK properly? Or do they like the US because Rolling Stone have been licking their arses so much? Lee. PS: sorry if this sounds a little xenophobic - no intention to offend americans... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 13 May 2001 15:09:46 +0100 Nothing does exist below the Watford Gap ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben" Subject: (orb) i love the Orb Date: 13 May 2001 17:12:12 +0200 Hija all ;) i am new here, 23 years old, from Cape Town. graphic designer, Roland 303 (groove-box) player, programmer, and web developer (yes i also didn't expect the www). respect our planet, don't litter. I have searched so long and yet, the answer was so simple, being theorb.com. I am still feeling a bit sad every now and then, when thinking back of that email i got (in 1998 i think), saying that i missed out on Greg Hunter, being at the fix in Cape Town ! Boy (tear), knowing that place since it opened, and seeing the posters as well, mmm, well, lets say, it is a mini-sad thought. At the moment i am the only person at work (i think ...), and listening to FSOL (Future Sound Of London) --Life forms, (i like track 7,8 now, disc 1) but track 9 (disc 1) is just as gentle. and to the right on my desk lies Mega-tripolis and good (not so old) (at last purchased) auntie aubrey's excursions beyond the call of duty the Orb remix project . -- boy isn't it great to c two great bands blending in so nicely together. but the orb came to the camel experience in cape town as well, earlier this year, or late last year. I am really wondering why ? cause the music you find at the camel experiences here, is not as intelligent as the Orb's, and me, not really following the camel experiences in cape town, well, missed out on that as well, flip enjoy the day :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 13 May 2001 12:52:56 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 13 May 2001, Lee Blanch wrote: > I am also extremely annoyed that the furthest South they toured in the > UK was bloody Bristol and London! It's as if nothing exists below the > Watford gap! what about all that ABOVE london? what was the furthest north they went, birmingham? what about the glory towns of sheffield, leeds, norwich, heysham, rosdale, barrow, st anne's, gateshead, york, darlington, etc? ;) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: RE: (orb) i love the Orb Date: 13 May 2001 18:54:09 +0200 Evening Ben, Welcome to the orb list, the best list on this planet! =) Cheers, Dr.Winston O'Boogie . http://www.uf-orb.com/ Hija all ;) i am new here, 23 years old, from Cape Town. graphic designer, Roland 303 (groove-box) player, programmer, and web developer (yes i also didn't expect the www). respect our planet, don't litter. I have searched so long and yet, the answer was so simple, being theorb.com. I am still feeling a bit sad every now and then, when thinking back of that email i got (in 1998 i think), saying that i missed out on Greg Hunter, being at the fix in Cape Town ! Boy (tear), knowing that place since it opened, and seeing the posters as well, mmm, well, lets say, it is a mini-sad thought. At the moment i am the only person at work (i think ...), and listening to FSOL (Future Sound Of London) --Life forms, (i like track 7,8 now, disc 1) but track 9 (disc 1) is just as gentle. and to the right on my desk lies Mega-tripolis and good (not so old) (at last purchased) auntie aubrey's excursions beyond the call of duty the Orb remix project . -- boy isn't it great to c two great bands blending in so nicely together. but the orb came to the camel experience in cape town as well, earlier this year, or late last year. I am really wondering why ? cause the music you find at the camel experiences here, is not as intelligent as the Orb's, and me, not really following the camel experiences in cape town, well, missed out on that as well, flip enjoy the day :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: Re: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 13 May 2001 12:32:29 -0500 it's grim up north... :-) >what about all that ABOVE london? what was the furthest north they went, >birmingham? what about the glory towns of sheffield, leeds, norwich, >heysham, rosdale, barrow, st anne's, gateshead, york, darlington, etc? > >;) > >micah stupak /"\ ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 13 May 2001 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) >heysham Hah! It's not quite the end of the world...but you can see it from there. Really though, the amount of gigs that I passed up when I lived in England cos I couldn't be arsed driving the 60 paltry miles to Leeds or 90 to Birmingham makes want to cry. Especially when Gavin just drove thousands of miles to see the lads. Even if you live in Land's End or Dover how far can it be to London or Bristol? I will never ever forgive myself for passing up the Primal Scream/Orb double header at Sheffield Arena, no more than 40 miles away from my front door...how stupid was that?stupidstupidstupidstupidmofo......argh! martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) sorry, no Orb, looking for RJ Date: 13 May 2001 20:03:51 +0200 Sorry guys, RJ, I lost your email adress, please contact me! thnx Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) Badorb and tourdates Date: 13 May 2001 14:28:05 -0500 Two questions: 1. has anyone had any luck ordering from the badorb site yet? and 2. does anyone know of tour dates in the US that are NOT part of the areaone fest? thanks for any info, feel free to reply off list. Martin -- Please visit my homepage to see my work and some interesting links. http://home1.gte.net/amorph13/portfolio/main.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) San Fran Gig . .. kinda long but please read Date: 13 May 2001 21:54:37 EDT wow that was amazing. i traveled all the way from Dallas, TX to see the show and it was my first orb show ever! i gotta say i was blissed to the point of no return, beyond my wildest imaginations an highest expectations. i even got to chat with witchman after the show! what a cool guy he is. just to confirm, he did tell me that the orb would be touring more dates besides the moby tour and that there is a very good chance of on orb gig in Austin, TX baby yea!!! i could go on and on about the show but words could not even begin to describe the experience i had . i have been an orb fan since 1994 before orbvs terrvm even came out and this was my first chance to see them, so i went all out. now i need to ask a big favor . . . i didnt see any shirts or hats for sale at the show did i miss something?? please someone tell me they can hook me with a Cydonia or BadOrb North American tour t-shirts. this was a big event for me and i want a shirt to remember it by (sounds cheesy buy i dont really care). i know they had them at the other shows so i really hope someone helps me out by hooking me up with one or pointing me in the rite direction of someone who would have one to spare. also i know some people taped and MD recorded the show. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE contact me or share with everyone i dont care. i just want that show to remember it by. if you want i will make it worth your while i have lots if goodies to trade. hopefully someone cool will just wanna swap CDRs. sorry i didnt get to personally meet all you peeps i talked to before the show but it was crazy down in san fran man, i had a wild time. rach and steve0 i really wanted to meet up with ya'll but hopefully next time =). . . to everyone else i met at the show and partied with all over the bay . . . good times, good vibes . . see you on the other side for your info i have been using the name 'the gemini killer' and 'gemini' on this list for the long time now. im going to go ahead and just start using my DJ/ artist name. DJ TeleVision. ill end my rambling now haha . . . TeleVision (formerly gemini) www.nativelight.com/tv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) San Fran Gig . .. kinda long but please read Date: 13 May 2001 22:21:46 -0500 > please someone tell me they can hook me with a > Cydonia or BadOrb North American tour t-shirts. There unfortunately weren't any tour-specific shirts, just the cream-colored one with the Cydonia cover on the front and the three gray shirts corresponding to the first three BadOrb singles. Each of the three BadOrb shirts had one of the funky animal/satellite thingys on the front and the BadOrb logo on the back with a badorb.com URL, also specific to each single. Other merch on sale at the shows I saw included a black baseball cap with just the CyberErotica Orb logo (I didn't inspect it closely enough to see whether it's embroidered or a patch) and the Witchman vs. Jammin Unit "Inferno" CD. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) mother of a next single theory... Date: 13 May 2001 20:36:08 -0700 (PDT) > Hey, when they are going to release second single > from Cydonia??? It's > been four months since Once More... Hamlet of Kings Colored 12" X 3 Pak LP #1 White, for autographs, Greg Hunter's must be sought after as he remixed Hotel California and such... This white "live" version could be recorded at the Solar Festival in Africa this summer and the B side would be a 30 minute raucious halarity of copiously full on sorted out dilect humor, chants, circus announcing, foibles, trips on words, seashore sounds and other spoken Orb text laced with egnable for good measure. ;) LP #2 Limited Black Test pressing do this song justice and split it up for us not listening. There are THREE distinct parts I think we all should start listening to: Liven up the bass line groove abit and eliminate out the walrus/seal/ seashore samples altogether on this one. More of a comercial/radio frendly version and the B side can only have a version remixed by Brian Eno or Greg Hunter.... Did Gerg Hunter even have anything to do with this stellar track?!?! LP #3 Purple 12" sent to listmembers direct. A dreamy all new completely revamped ambient "Float Mix". 40 minutes long and again they could streatch this song out on every tour till ill ll l ... 'lleme tell ya bout Adam Freelands DJ set here last week. They guy is ontrack. It was late thursday and he signed my flyer too! Fast on his way to Toronto after Philly, his streamlined set lasted about 2 hours and we could not notice a mistake, he even played ire samples and rasta lics.I asked him twice if that was his real name. He is so talented I told him to stay. Adam Freeland told me he surfs too and gave me his E-mail: Adam Freeland drew a single "heart" on side C of the LFC DJ Promo. He also wrote "Joe, Keep Vibing" and "Big Respect" on the vinyl sleeve/jacket. His Email addres is: Adam@Marineparade.co.uk l ... ... I'll streach, Wow so that WAS a mad Season Love all the new and refreshing posts... Toodles don't forget to make your moms a Emoo milk shake or some sane token gesture of gift that won't zip by in an instant... I love my mom and Alex does too ===== Joe from FL "Be Self - Actualised" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: Re: (orb) Date: 13 May 2001 20:56:36 -0700 (PDT) > Other merch on sale at the shows I saw included a > black baseball cap with > just the CyberErotica Orb logo O.K. "CyberErotica"... what? Does ? this ? mean? (I didn't inspect it closely enough to see whether it's embroidered or a patch) The cap is embroidered... I'll scan Witchman's signature next for y'all. Now Playing: "Happen to be Alive Shining Through" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Bryan" Subject: (orb) solipse.com -wow! Date: 14 May 2001 00:40:28 -0400 The ORB - Reunion (UK)* * The Orb Reunion gig is a live jam session with three of the original Orb members - Alex Paterson, Youth & Greg Hunter. This is not the Orb as they currently play, but will be a unique experience not to be missed ! --- also lx, youth & greg are djing...suns of arqa too, & dubtrees...MMM. sounds pretty good, I wish I could make it. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Turtle Subject: (orb) Echo Beach CD w/KLF Remix for Sale/Trade Date: 14 May 2001 09:11:56 +0200 if anyone wants it ;) Black Star Liner - Yemen Cutta Connection with 12 Tracks (KLF Remix as Bonus) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) please help me find once more 12"s Date: 14 May 2001 10:00:08 +0100 You won't get the promos online at HMV - they only sell normal release stuff. The "normal" 12" doesn't have it on. To get the Scourge of the Earth mix, you need to promo cd which has the short mix on, or the blue sleeve version 12". BTW the longer mix is only 4:52, compared to about 3:50. Eil.com have them both. They are good if a little expensive, but then if you really want something you always have to pay ;-) the FT explores Satan is on the Green 12" from memory. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Orb tour again? Date: 14 May 2001 10:04:31 +0100 Don't forget Doncaster in your list of Northern shitholes.......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) Date: 14 May 2001 06:38:52 -0500 >> Other merch on sale at the shows I saw included a >> black baseball cap with >> just the CyberErotica Orb logo > O.K. "CyberErotica"... what? Does ? this ? mean? CyberErotica = the font used all over Orblivion, and again for the Orb logo on Cydonia. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TheEye" Subject: (orb) badorb.com Date: 14 May 2001 10:14:12 -0400 Has anyone else heard anything from badorb.com? I still don't see nay way of ordering anything. ???? Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) badorb.com Date: 14 May 2001 16:09:11 +0100 I would imagine that it's been delayed again. I bet Alex is pissed off because he said that part of the reason for the delay of Cydonia and related stuff was out of his hands....yet this is his project AFAIK. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dark Eyed Kid" Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 14 May 2001 16:30:54 +0100 > > I bet Alex is pissed off because he said that part of the reason for the > > delay of Cydonia and related stuff was out of his hands....yet this is his > > project AFAIK. I think somebody else must be overseeing the launch of Badorb. Surely Alex wouldn't tour the US and attampt to launch his label at the same time? Any Thoughts? Also. Forgive me if this seems inappropriate. But could it be possible his brother or other family member are involved? Cause somebody was saying recently that his brother was ill. G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) badorb.com Date: 14 May 2001 16:40:37 +0100 The point I was trying to make was LX was bitching about Island and Cydonia, but I think he's probably finding it's not as easy as you might think......... It doesn't matter anyway because delaying it won't stop people buying the stuff, more likely the reverse. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: (orb) Once More released as single in US Date: 14 May 2001 17:02:10 +0100 Forgive my ignorance, but has Once More been released in the states? I've seen the promo for sale over here [on MCA records, not Island] with an MCA catalogue number [MCAR253522]. The track listing is exactly the same as the UK Promo. I'm surprised as most US releases are different to their UK counterparts and I would have thought the general release 12" or CD single would have more tracks or mixes because you're not constrained by our stupid chart rules which govern total track length, number of tracks and mixes etc. I can see Once More CD 1/2 for sale as imports on amazon.com but no US release. anyone?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) Once More released as single in US] Date: 14 May 2001 12:21:59 EDT I don't believe it was released as a single here in the States; at any ra= te, I picked up both UK singles. Which brings up another question: how did Blu= e Room get around those rules for singles you have over there? Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but has Once More been released in the states? I've seen the promo for sale over here [on MCA records, not Island] with = an MCA catalogue number [MCAR253522]. The track listing is exactly the same = as the UK Promo. I'm surprised as most US releases are different to their UK counterparts = and I would have thought the general release 12" or CD single would have more= tracks or mixes because you're not constrained by our stupid chart rules which govern total track length, number of tracks and mixes etc. I can see Once More CD 1/2 for sale as imports on amazon.com but no US release. anyone?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: [(orb) Once More released as single in US] Date: 14 May 2001 17:25:39 +0100 Blue room was released before they changed the rules - I don't know if the rules were changed or not as result. It clocked in at two seconds shorter than 40 mins in any case. You could still release a 40 minute [or 20 minute now] or above track as a single, it just won't count towards chart sales....... I think as smiley said before, the single [each one] can't exceed 20 mins or 3 tracks. And I think you are limited to 3 formats i.e. 12" CD and tape or 2 CD's and a 12" as Once More was. Bring back 7"s ;-) The MCA promo would suggest it's going to be released in the States......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) AFD-Remix Date: 14 May 2001 19:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Hi, what``s the official release date of the Another Fine Day-Remix (Scarborough Fair)? Contact me offlist, Thanx, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: [(orb) Once More released as single in US] Date: 14 May 2001 13:34:03 -0500 Blue Room broke the rules, but DJs played it anyway, so they ended up changing the rules. Before that it was AHEGB. Don "I don't believe it was released as a single here in the States; at any rate, I picked up both UK singles. Which brings up another question: how did Blue Room get around those rules for singles you have over there?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) non-Orb: Question about Avalanches Album Date: 14 May 2001 19:59:55 +0100 (BST) evenin' all. can anyone help me out with a question i have about the album by the avalanches??? i picked up a in-house cd-r of the album last week. however, instead of 18 tracks, it's ONE continuous track. the cd-r time states 74 minutes, but the music end at around 62 minutes... ...so, my questions are: 1. how long should the album be? is it 62 minutes, and they just burnt the cd badly, or have i got a duff copy??? 2. there's no info on the record label, so how do i tell if i have the original version with ALL the samples, or the 'cleaner' version? anyone? all info greatly accepted! cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) The Second Orbit Date: 14 May 2001 15:51:38 EDT i got an extra copy of this CD i am wanting to trade. its in great shape and has all the inserts and everthing. its the Ecursions in Ambience : The Second Orbit with the 3 Aurey mixes on it. very rare and great item. i am looking for an original MixMag live with Dr Alex and MixMaster Morris CD. trade offers please DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) MixMag Live 9 w/ Dr Alex Date: 14 May 2001 15:53:53 EDT i really would like and original of this, please contact me if you know where i could find one or have one to offer me. i have thigs to trade and such. please help me find this item. http://members.aol.com/ovation15/theorb.html DJ TV # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben -Village & Life" Subject: (orb) Produced by Alex Patterson/The Orb Date: 14 May 2001 23:50:08 +0200 ...Believe in yourself, your best friend is the guy who is allways behind your eyes nibbles-- ENjoyO x-link mmm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: (orb) Boston Date: 14 May 2001 18:19:53 -0400 Anyone lucky enough to see the boston show? It was astounding! Anyone got it on DAT ? (my true, underlying motivation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) SF Orbie Outing Date: 14 May 2001 16:02:38 -0700 Hey Everyone! I'm attempting to set up a SF orbie outing, as Andrew's coming to town and wanted to get together with fellow listmates while he's in the area. We're looking to do something either May 25, 26 or 27, and most likely music related, so email me privately if you're interested. (Let me know which of those dates are best and I'll get to organizing!) =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) non-Orb: Question about Avalanches Album Date: 15 May 2001 08:20:09 +0800 well, as an aussie I should be able to answer this, however, I am not too sure of the answers... but I'll try: >1. how long should the album be? is it 62 minutes, and >they just burnt the cd badly, or have i got a duff >copy??? no, 18 tracks = 62 minutes = continuous flow of music >2. there's no info on the record label, so how do i >tell if i have the original version with ALL the >samples, or the 'cleaner' version? absolutely no idea, but apparently the album has 900+ samples on it! So without the samples there might not be an album.... hope that helps :) KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: (orb) Boston Date: 14 May 2001 18:19:53 -0400 Anyone lucky enough to see the boston show? It was astounding! Anyone got it on DAT ? (my true, underlying motivation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Boston Date: 14 May 2001 21:13:03 -0700 (PDT) > Anyone lucky enough to see the boston show? It was > astounding! > > Anyone got it on DAT ? (my true, underlying > motivation) Um, yes - sort of. Since I was unfamiliar with Boston, I got really lost and missed the first half of the Orb's set. I walked in during Once more and began rolling tape immediately. So if anyone has the first half of the show, I have the second. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: Re: (orb) please help me find once more 12"s Date: 14 May 2001 22:39:06 -0700 > the FT explores Satan is on the Green 12" from memory. Brown # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Re: ORB IN SWEDEN? Date: 15 May 2001 12:21:19 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com following on from an enquiry from "dr winston o'boogie" of this parish, i've checked with the band management, and can confirm that: the Orb are playing Arvika Festival on 13th July in Sweden. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) RE: Orb to tour again? Date: 15 May 2001 05:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Matt Skinner proves the point that there is nothing south of watford. Since the floods people in Scotland have a new name for Kent - Loch Kent. Just think, a couple of more centimetres of rain and Suffolk will disappear, the east-side M25 will be a ferry terminal and Steven Redgrave will have a 3-mile wide river to row in at Bolders Lock... ...and the Orb can release 'Orbus Oceanus' Paul. > --- Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > > > Don't forget Doncaster in your list of Northern > > shitholes.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: FW: (orb) Boston Date: 15 May 2001 11:04:33 -0400 Ouch, that sucks. Being a Boston native I can understand how you got lost. I guess next time I'll have to arrange some kind of Orb gathering and you all can avoid any mixups later. How is the quality of your recording? -----Original Message----- Um, yes - sort of. Since I was unfamiliar with Boston, I got really lost and missed the first half of the Orb's set. I walked in during Once more and began rolling tape immediately. So if anyone has the first half of the show, I have the second. Gavin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) breezeblock Date: 15 May 2001 10:08:16 -0500 I'm not sure if has posted this before, but one of my friends is after the track list for this mix. Could someone provide me with the list or a link if they are listed on the web. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (orb) Austin Texas.... :-} Date: 15 May 2001 09:40:55 -0500 Is there any Orb or KLF Fans that live in the Austin San Marcus region? If so, contact me personally because I am moving to Austin at the end of this month. Over and Out. RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) breezeblock Date: 15 May 2001 16:31:17 +0100 (BST) Don wrote: > I'm not sure if has posted this before, but one of > my friends is after the track list for this mix. this is what i was given, but i thought that the 1st track was EDM - haven't played it for a while though: Orb - 'Denez (Orb Remix)' (Island Records) Creature - 'Cuba' (What For Records) Brian Eno - 'The Dove' (EG Records) Ash Tracey - 'I'm Ready' - (CDr) FFWD - 'Drone' (Inter-Modo Records) Schem - 'The Lost Woods of Timber' (Bad Orb Records) Sun Electric - 'Shuffle' (Bad Orb Records) John Carpenter - 'Dark Star' (Citadel Records) World Standard - 'Country Gazette' (Daisy World Discs) S.E. Berlin - 'Barbie Girl' (Bad Orb Records) U2 - 'Deaf and Dumb (Orb Remix)' (Acetate) The Orb - 'Salt' (Oblivion Records) John Carpenter - 'Mr Sandman' (Varese Sarabande Records) cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) Orb conjunction C yberErotica Date: 15 May 2001 11:31:56 -0700 (PDT) > > O.K. "CyberErotica"... what? Does ? this ? mean? > > CyberErotica = the font used all over Orblivion, and > again for the Orb logo > on Cydonia. > > JG So, that is what it means.... O.K. thank you I really thought that was an appropriate conjunction? Jo XX : ) Now Playing - - Divynls __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) breezeblock Date: 15 May 2001 15:55:32 -0400 : Orb - 'Denez (Orb Remix)' (Island Records) : Creature - 'Cuba' (What For Records) : Brian Eno - 'The Dove' (EG Records) : Ash Tracey - 'I'm Ready' - (CDr) : FFWD - 'Drone' (Inter-Modo Records) : Schem - 'The Lost Woods of Timber' (Bad Orb Records) : Sun Electric - 'Shuffle' (Bad Orb Records) : John Carpenter - 'Dark Star' (Citadel Records) : World Standard - 'Country Gazette' (Daisy World Discs) : : S.E. Berlin - 'Barbie Girl' (Bad Orb Records) : U2 - 'Deaf and Dumb (Orb Remix)' (Acetate) : The Orb - 'Salt' (Oblivion Records) : John Carpenter - 'Mr Sandman' (Varese Sarabande : Records) Is shuffle the name of BOBIa then? I have this breeze block show. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Orb conjunction C yberErotica Date: 15 May 2001 14:48:30 -0700 The only reason I'll forgive you for mentioning the Divinyls in this forum is that if you mentally picture Elvis (the fat Elvis) singing "I Touch Myself" it is pretty hilarious. This is particularly effective if you can actually imitate Elvis and then do this publicly, like at the supermarket check-out or walking behind someone unsuspecting on the sidewalk. T > Joseph Hannah wrote: > > So, that is what it means.... O.K. thank you I really > > thought that was an appropriate conjunction? > > > > Jo XX : ) > > > > Now Playing - - Divynls # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 15 May 2001 23:58:20 EDT The current slow rate of evolution is rather tedious. To encourage the necessary leap in evolution, we have decided to invite the whole world to a TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY. It will take place next FRIDAY NIGHT (18th MAY) at Midnight, US Pacific Coast Time. To obtain transcendence all partygoers, wherever they are in the world, must be synchronized in their neural brain patterns. This will be achieved with music. Every participant must press the "play" button on their CD players at EXACTLY MIDNIGHT (CALIFORNIAN TIME), starting "PERPETUAL DAWN" and the complete Second Adventures Beyond CD. (Picked at random for this evolutionary exercise). Detailed monitoring will be performed on a resonant synchronized listener here in my back garden in California. Anytime after the party is over we encourage all participants to e-mail us (bbbrooo@hotmail.com), giving your latitude and longitude, (or area and country), listing substances used and details of anything unusual experienced during the experiment: Increased perception awareness, premonitions, an increased desire to dance, brighter than normal planets, stars, unexplained lights in the sky, aurora borealis, meteorites, a sudden insight into the meaning of life the universe and everything, or something as ordinary as extra static when removing clothing. Please let us know it could be important. You must have noticed unexplained coincidences and synergy between people on this list. Let's see what can be achieved with focussed energy!! I'm especially interested in hearing from fellow scrumpy downing Devonians, and also antipodean friends 7900 miles directly below our feet. See you all on Friday bb & co # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 16 May 2001 13:28:07 +0800 this is a handy way to work out how your time zone compares to cali time: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ then you can click on "calculate future events" thingy to see what time it will be at your place when its midngiht in california boo! it will be 3pm on friday for me, so I will be at work.... I'll have to see what I can do! KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eben Sorkin" Subject: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 15 May 2001 22:35:04 -0700 Hey my fellow Orbies - Just for nitpicky correctness: The font in question is 'Cyberotica' (not 'CyberErotica'). It is a font designed by Barry Deck & distributed by Thirstype. see: http://www.barrydeck.com/pages/type.html Just for fun - see also: 'Orgasm Heavy', 'Truth', 'Amputee' & the synonymous with the mid 90's - 'Template Gothic'. 'Arbitrary Sans Serif' is extra tasty i think - it is somehow classic & solid. I remember 'Template Gothic' was used on the poster for some mass marketed hollywood movie aimed at 20 somethings with ever so slight indie leanings. It was like a breakfast club/sleepless in seattle/pretty in pinkish number. Spooky stuff if you ask me. The font disappeared from new design pretty quickly after that - it's street cred was gone i suppose. Can anyone name the film? By the way: I met James in chilly Alaska last week (I am moving there, brrr) & he's a fine fine fellow. Any other orb folk in Alaska now or coming visting anytime soon? I know you folks in Florida must be getting sick of all the warmth & sunshine by now! There are bears & moose here. Sadly, no tigers... :-) -e. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 07:25:57 -0500 > I remember 'Template Gothic' was used on the > poster for some mass marketed hollywood movie Template Gothic, if I'm not mistaken, was also used on U.F.Orb + singles. JG PS - I think the movie you're thinking of is Reality Bites. Not that I saw it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: RE: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 14:55:39 +0200 Evenin' Sure the Template Gothic by Barry Deck 1991 were used on uf orb, I know some facts about that, through my good ol' pal Phil Wolstenholme who designed the uf orb cover! He told me a while ago that the cover is not how he rendered it, the original is lovely with bright colors almost rainbow-like and the star is just so beautiful, Phil and Alex told DR (Designer republic) to print it like it was made but DR said that it was impossible! Phil told me that they lied to them about not being able to print it due to the picture document format Phil used. So now the conclusion; We all now have a BROWN uf orb CD cover. That's all for tonight, tomorrow we go to the Zoo! Cheers, Dr.Winston O'Boogie - http://www.uf-orb.com/ > I remember 'Template Gothic' was used on the > poster for some mass marketed hollywood movie Template Gothic, if I'm not mistaken, was also used on U.F.Orb + singles. JG PS - I think the movie you're thinking of is Reality Bites. Not that I saw it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: RE: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 20:58:32 +0800 >He told me a while ago that the cover is not how he rendered it, the >original is lovely with bright colors almost rainbow-like and the star >is just so beautiful, Phil and Alex told DR (Designer republic) to print >it like it was made but DR said that it was impossible! Phil told me >that they lied to them about not being able to print it due to the >picture document format Phil used. So now the conclusion; We all now >have a BROWN uf orb CD cover. don't suppose he'd be willing to let us see what it originally looked like? :) Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: RE: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 15:23:38 +0200 I'll ask him if I can post the original at my site. If he agrees I'll let you know. Dwb. >He told me a while ago that the cover is not how he rendered it, the >original is lovely with bright colors almost rainbow-like and the star >is just so beautiful, Phil and Alex told DR (Designer republic) to print >it like it was made but DR said that it was impossible! Phil told me >that they lied to them about not being able to print it due to the >picture document format Phil used. So now the conclusion; We all now >have a BROWN uf orb CD cover. don't suppose he'd be willing to let us see what it originally looked like? :) Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 12:32:00 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 16 May 2001, Dr.Winston O'Boogie wrote: > He told me a while ago that the cover is not how he rendered it, the > original is lovely with bright colors almost rainbow-like and the star > is just so beautiful, Phil and Alex told DR (Designer republic) to > print it like it was made but DR said that it was impossible! Phil > told me that they lied to them about not being able to print it due to > the picture document format Phil used. So now the conclusion; We all > now have a BROWN uf orb CD cover. really? hm, the _u.f.orb_ album cover is one of the greatest pictures i've ever seen. part of me can't imagine it with brighter colors, yet part of me doesn't think it'd look better that way. i think _u.f.orb_ is a fairly dark album (especially for the orb), and the concept of something in deep space all dirty and old really fits for me. if it were rainbow colors, why, i'd probably think it'd look hideous (and i'd probably never listen to the album, as it'd look like some kind of hippie crap i shoudln't like). micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) CyberErotics Date: 16 May 2001 10:33:39 -0700 echoing JG's sentiments: >The font disappeared from new design pretty quickly after that - it's street >cred was gone i suppose. Can anyone name the film? Reality Bites, starring mid-90's darling, Winona Ryder! =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: (orb) Dr Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise. Date: 16 May 2001 19:17:57 +0100 I received my copy today and the last track is doing my head in! Its titled: Easy - D'ya Dig' and only lasts for 53 seconds. The first 19/20 seconds are ok but then it sounds jittery/skitty. Is it a duff CD or is Alex messing with my head? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) 42 Date: 16 May 2001 14:30:50 -0500 I just learned that, sadly, author Douglas Adams passed away on May 11 following a heart attack. :-( I mention this only because there was a thread about The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on this list not too long ago.... Incidentally, I believe it was he who gave Pink Floyd the name of their last (and probably final) album, The Division Bell. (David Gilmoure confirmed it was, in fact, the same Douglas Adams who was thanked in the credits for that album.) Has anyone heard anything else about Floyd??? Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) Thanks/ Autechre Date: 16 May 2001 12:24:18 -0700 Hey! Thanks to those who answered me about Area One. I bought my expensive ticket a couple of days ago. Finally- ORB- 6 years after the last time they swung by these parts. Has anyone else noticed the clothing line (I think for girls only) called Orb? They have a nice Orb logo. Tempting, but too expensive. I went to Autechre last night. I was astounding. There were no lights (except for the glare from the Powerbooks), but the music was really durn good. The place did thin a bit, but nowhere near as much as the last time they were here (1998). Last time it was really sparse and disjointed (in a good way) this time is was really layered and actually pretty rhythmic. I have heard they've been playing very different sets from city to city. I know Gavin taped the show in Chicago (apparently not so hot), I hope someone up here taped this one. I never have so I figured I would mess up any attempts- unless you count the call I made to my answering machine (I did record about 2 minutes). It was really cool. They just announced Mouse on Mars here next month. That means June has Tortoise, Mogwai, Mouse on Mars and Radiohead, July has Air and August has The Orb. I almost feel like I live in a real city! Bye! __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Long, Joshua L." Subject: RE: (orb) 42 Date: 16 May 2001 15:10:44 -0400 >I just learned that, sadly, author Douglas Adams passed away >on May 11 following a heart attack. :-( I mention this >only because there was a thread about The Hitchhiker's Guide >to the Galaxy on this list not too long ago.... This it truly a bad bit of news, and it brings a couple of tears. He was a great author. Joshua Long ext: 6297 longj@rjrt.com / jmzd4@msn.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), contains information that may be confidential, protected by the attorney-client or other legal privileges, and/or proprietary non-public information. If you are not an intended recipient of this message or an authorized assistant to an intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message and/or any of its attachments (if any) by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 16 May 2001 16:10:20 -0400 It'll be at 3am on Friday - for us Floor-idians. I'll see what I can do as well. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) What Do You Want? Information! Date: 16 May 2001 18:04:56 -0700 While making the rounds last weekend saw a few items that might be of interest. Stopped at Aron's in LA. They had 8 to 10 copies of "Cydonia" in the used/promo bin priced at 10.99 and a couple priced at 9.99 each. So I would agree here with Chris (earlier post) that they can be a bit overpriced on some items, but it's still better than full price. They also have Dr. Alex Patterson's "Journey Into Paradise" (new CD section) for 19.99, and "Cydonia" vinyl for I believe 27.99 (there were about 5 copies). Tower in Anaheim and Costa Mesa both have 12" copies of "Once More" for 8.99 which isn't that bad of a price. These are regular, not promo copies. Regarding the "Journey Into Paradise" mix CD. I have an in-house pre-release cdr promo that doesn't give much info. Could someone send along any mix info that might be on the regular copy? Seems like the Killing Joke track is probably a Orb Mix. That is all. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) What Do You Want? Information! Date: 16 May 2001 22:00:34 -0500 > Seems like the Killing Joke > track is probably a Orb Mix. I just got my copy of Journey Into Paradise today and haven't spun it yet, but if the "Requiem" mix is the same one that's on Killing Joke's Pandemonium in Dub EP, it's actually not by Orb proper, but by Orb ex-pats Greg Hunter and Kris "Thrash" Weston. Also turned up in one of LX's Groovetech Teatime sets, IIRC... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) re: the Witchman vs. Jammin Unit CD Date: 17 May 2001 05:19:27 Anyone know if the Witchman vs. Jammin Unit CD has Dr. Walker as part of Jammin Unit or???? --spearman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Gavin's 4/27 Orb Maritime Hall report (very long) Date: 17 May 2001 00:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Ok Ok Ok... I'm not following any order here, but since I read lots and LOTS of SF reviews, here's mine. Happy reading, it was quite a night. After reading through all these reviews of the Orb's SF gig, I find it odd with as many listees that were there that I didn't meet any of you. Where were you all? I did meet up with a taper friend John Ricci a friend of his by the name of Cole, and ex-listee Cory Kilcullen (taper of the La Luna 8/13/97 show). Cory flew down from Portland for the show and we met up in front of the Virgin Megastore a few blocks away. John decided to show me around a bit before stopping off for dinner at this pizza joint inside of some strange nightclub just down the street from the Maritime Hall. After an extended dinner break due to the incompetence of the man who took our order, we walked back to the Maritime Hall. We hung out in front of the venue trying to sell off our extra tickets since I no longer needed one - Muzzer (Orb tour manager) gave me an all access pass a few gigs earlier! I got inside and walked around the venue a bit to scope out the scene. Autolump was just starting his set, so I headed back stage to say hello to Muzzer, LX, Simon, and Witchy. I saw Alex (visuals guy) on the way in and he warned me about LX's somber mood due to the news about his brother. Shortly after, LX walked out of the green room, a little teary eyed. I didn't know what to say to him, so I just tapped my heart with my fist and gave him the peace knuckles as he walked by. Upon entering the green room, I saw Simon and Witchy and chatted with them a bit and watched the commotion of the venue's staff as they refilled the pitchers of warm beer on the snackbar. a few minutes later, Fil enters the room after completing his set and sits down to relax as LX does his DJ set. We talk about how far of a drive SF is from Denver, have a few drinks, then I head out into the hall with intentions of taping Witchman's set. The crowd in the hall continues to grow in size, making my trek to the center harder and harder. Witchman begins before I get a chance to setup my rig, then I get stuck in the crowd by a group of loud talkers. I finally break free, and notice that my record level is too low and the input is clipping bad, so I give up and stop the tape. I meet up with my friends in the back by the bar, and tell them that I'm not particularly fond of the venue's acoustics and crowd noise. I decide to head upstairs to the soundboard area, hoping I can have the same luck at getting an open area to record as I did in Denver. No luck, for some venue tech guy told me they were having trouble with the lighting and needed the area to move around in. I head back downstairs and try to find an acceptable spot on the floor. Witchman's halfway through his set at this point, and the crowd's reaction is mixed. One thing unique about this performance is that his visuals were projected onto the side walls of the hall in addition to the 2 screens on stage. I did notice that he used some different sample placement during this set too, but nothing to make this night's performance stand out. I weezle my way close to the center point of the hall and have Cole, Cory and John stand behind me. Cole pulls out his Zippo and a Bic lighter, and attaches a pipe to the bottom of the zippo. "This is my James Bond bowl. Wanna hit?" Awesome. John and/or Cory does a beer run (1 cup at a time, venue rule) then within a few minutes, the Orb finally take the stage. I watch as LX comes out on stage to see the crowd cheer quite loudly. Witchman takes his place by the mixing desk, and Fil ducks down by the ADAT machine. I started rolling tape 5 mins prior to that beginning tune they play before LX spins the Apocalypse Now version of "The End" to make sure I get everything. Tonight I pay close attention to LX to see if his emotions from earlier could be seen. The rooster sample comes in and the crowd starts cheering madly and LX raises his hands into the air to greet the audience as the Orb star starts to rotate on the scren behind him. When "The End" can be heard, the crowd reacts with a mixture of laughter and cheering, but mostly people saying "This is the Doors" - really? . "And all the children are insane..." The sound of the hellicopter then takes over, and sounds as if it's flying around the room thanks to Patrick's (Orb's soundman) quadrophonic mixing techniques. As the anticipation starts growing to greater levels, the rumble of the bass of Mile Long Lump Of Lard gets greater and greater in volume. "You can feel the flash, you can feel the heat" I quickly gaze from left to right, noticing that everybody's attention is directed at the stage with wide eyes, waiting for the beat to kick in. When it does, the eminator lights start shining onto the crowd, and the once stable group is now cheering and dancing, or more appropriately "Going mad". Tonights version is followed by a country tune LX spins and the whole place starts clapping and yee-hawing as if it's a ho-down. Promis kicks in and Witchy mixes the string section in and out a bit more than I remember hearing from the prior shows. Due to the size of the Maritime hall, the quadrophonic mix can be heard very well. The song of the Flying Nuns provides the next segue into Turn It Down, as Simon comes onto stage and takes control of the mixing desk from Witchy. LX mixes some spoken word samples and rhythms ontop of of Simon's mix, manipulating the Chaos Pad with the greatest of ease. As the rhythm and bassline stays balanced, the guitar riff switches from channel to channel at a dizzying speed. As the beat conitnues on, LX then reverses it and stops it dead, starting Egnable and playing it in short as Witchy re-enters the stage and Simon moves to his Bass stack for Blue Room. At center stage, the giant 12 foot Orb becomes illuminated by a projector from the soundboard with green and blue waveforms. Just below, Simon straps on his bass, bobs his head in rhythm, keeping a watchful eye on Witchy waiting for the signal to begin. LX plays samples from Tino's Breaks, the movie Dark Star, South Park, along with mixing in extra vocals from Mad Professor's "The Creator". The crod approves. As Blue Room fades out, FFWD's "Hempire" fades in, then gets bumped by a short clip of Firestar. just as things start to get quiet , the sound of Dueling Banjos fills the air, along with the vocals that make up the live version of Perpetual Dawn. As the beat kicks up, the crowd begins to jump in rhythm. Simon then kicks in the recognizeable bassline to a very loud cheer from the crowd and the place is lit up brightly by the Orb's commanding light gear. Just as the momentum kicks up, it mellows down to sound of a chanting sample until there's nothing left except the highhat, then everything kicks back in all at once, lead off by Simon's hand sliding down the neck of his bass. As Perpetual Dawn ends, Witchy walks off stage, followed by Simon after placing his bass back on the stand. In the meantime LX cues up the Scrounge The Earth mix of Once More (the only show of the tour with this mix), paces back and forth, then rips off his headphones and slams them on the floor and walks offstage. The anxeity I felt as the show started was all but gone, until this happened. Was he calling it quits for the night? It seemed like it took forever for him to come back out, but he did as the sound of A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain could be heard. Withcman came back out and walked to the mixer, LX then walked over to Witchman, said something to him, and then embraced each other in a hug. Terminus followed, and the performance carried on as if it were all planned. LX mixed a bit of FFWD's "Can Of Bliss" and a rhythm from what sounds to be a De La Soul record (for a lack of better decription). Simon re-enters the stage, straps on his bass and tunes it just as Fil and Witchy signal each other the go ahead and Towers Of Dub starts. Submerged in the background, the sound of the long form of A Huge Ever Growing Brain can be heard, followed by sonar, a telephone ringing, dogs barking, and a harmonica. The end part seems to carry on for a while as Simon strums away without error. As Dub ends, LX follows up with S.E.Berlin's "Barbie Girl", taking us into Outlands. As soon as the familiar tone is recognized by the crowd, they make it known loud and clear. On tonight's version, Witchman mixed it really well, droping in and out different rhythms flawlessly. LX adds samples from 2001 on top of the mix, and then ends it with an echoed delay, but continuing with the 2001 sound clips. "Dave, this conversation can serve no purpse any longer". Simon re-enters the stage for the next track, grabbing LX's attention on the way to the bass stack. the sound of a horse galloping shows off the quadrophonic mix again, and the sound of Little Fluffy Clouds pierces the air. Witchy plays around with the bass drum, turning it on and off and grimmacing at the crowd as if he's toying with the dancers. This doesn't stop the masses from moving, for this is the song that many of the concertgoers probably came to hear. (I'm sure a periodical mentioned this track as their signature song as promotion of tonight's show) LFC comes to an end, and more samples from Apocalypse Now can be heard, this time of Marlon Brando. The crowd's cheering hits the loudest point of the night in appreciation. Hamlet Of Kings comes on and the Orb leaves the stage again (as they have for this song the whole tour). LX comes back out and plays a few samples over top the tail end of it "Tommorrow's forecast calls for mostly Sunday, followed by Thursday" Simon comes back out to do the mixing of EDM, giving LX a hug on the way to the desk. At the beginning LX plays the 911 sample of the emergency call about the Bay Bridge collapsing. I find this an odd sample to use, for I'm sure there was people affected by that disaster in the crowd... Between EDM and Thursday's keeper, LX spins something I don't recognize, and Witchy comes back out on stage, holding his camcorder and videotaping the audience. He has the camera hooked upto the videoscreens so the crowd can see the footage, filming from right to left, across the balcony, then sets it down to mix the last song. As the "Charge" horn blast can be heard, LX holds up two fingers above his head with one hand and waving the other behind him like the horns and tail of a bull and dances around the stage. As they close out the show Witchman waves goodbye, LX spins a song other than Mr. Sandman - sonething that sounds like an auctioneer over top of a drumbeat and exits the stage. The crowd stands around, cheering and hoping for them to come back out on stage, but as usual no encore. Tonight's set duration 1 hr 45 min. Total time taped 1 hr 58 min The recording came out good, but isn't he best tape from the tour. The crowd noise level is fair, the music sounds a bit distant, but the performance was great. After the gig ends, I notice that John is no longer with us. He apparently left early because he was too tireds to stay for the entire show (wuss). As the mass of people work their way toward the door, I stay behind hoping to be identified by some listees, and search the floor of a Maritime Hall-style ticket stub. I have better luck coming across the latter, prefering the artistic look over Tickets.com's generic blush and yellow format. I tell Cory and Cole that I want to go back stage and chat with the crew for a little while and I proceed back to the green room. As I get there, I notice a bunch of people sitting around outside as if they're waiting for the chance to meet LX & co. and for some rason they look vaguely familiar to me too. I knock on the door and ask Muzzer if it's ok to enter, and he opens up the door. LX is sitting on 1 couch, Simon and Alex on another. The mood in the room is a little tense because of LX's bad news. Patrick (being the perfectionist he is) is his usual bitter self and is standing in the doorway of the adjacent office clutching a beer. As Muzzer opens up the door the people sitting outside the greenroom enter, and turn out to be Meat Beat Manifesto/Tino's Breaks members Jack Dangers, Lynn Farmer, and Mike Powell. Mike comes over by me and we begin talking about their MTV interview that I remembered seeing him on from years back. Shortly after a few more guys enter the room, A dreadlocked guy named Brian I remember seeing at one or more of the Florida's shows being one of them. As the joints are being passed around the room, Jack and LX talk like old fiends, remembering tales from their 1996 tour together. I mention that I saw them on that tour at the Metro, and LX asks if I have that one on tape. I smile and nod, to which he replies "Figures." He tells Jack that I've been to every show on the tour, which gets a wide-eyed look from Jack. I asked him why Meat Beat isn't playing Coachella, and he replies "I Dunno. We weren't invited." Meanwhile dreadlocked Brian is showing Mike his recorder and MDs, talking about taping shows. Mike mentions to Brian that he's got a good setup, but then I pull out my DAT... Mike tells me about Tino's Breaks #5 is now out, and that 1 & 2 will be on cd soon (just so you all know). I say goodbye to Mike, on the way out compliment Jack and Lynn on Meat Beat's work, tell the Orb crew "See you tomorrow", and Muzzer confirms that I'm on the Coachella guest list. As I leave the green room and backstage area, one of the hippie-ish Maritime Hall owners says to me "Thanks for coming to the Maritime Hall. I hope you enjoyed it here! Please book with us again!" I leave smiling and meet up with Cory and Cole, who thankfully waited for my return and didn't threaten me for being gone too long. As I'm giving them the details of what happened, Fil, David (Orb light guy) and a bunch of Maritime Hall guys are loading up the Orb bus. Just down the street, A porsche runs the red light and broadsides a VW Jetta, rendering it immobile (unrelated I know, but it's part of the night). The Porsche guy gets out, says something, gets back in and drives off. HIT AND RUN! I drive them to their car, drop them off, say good night and head for LA at 3 am. I have a 5-6 hour drive ahead of me which I'm not looking forward to since I'm not in the right state of mind, and am quite tired, but I don't stray from my plan to get to LA to pick up my friend and head to Coachella... Another story for another time. Gavin (THEE orbaddict) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) badorb.com] Date: 17 May 2001 13:00:55 EDT I'm still not seeing any way of ordering anything - it's been about a wee= k now. Has anyone had any luck/heard anything? "TheEye" wrote: Has anyone else heard anything from badorb.com? I still don't see nay way of ordering anything. ???? Scott ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: [(orb) badorb.com] Date: 17 May 2001 10:18:12 -0700 hey kids! as someone who works in web development, i can honestly say that 80% of websites don't happen on schedule. i am SURE they will let us know when we're able to give them money... don't sweat it. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: [(orb) badorb.com] Date: 17 May 2001 13:33:56 -0400 : as someone who works in web development, i can honestly say that 80% of : websites don't happen on schedule. I'd have to concur whole heartedly. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Badorb characters... Sorta OT Date: 17 May 2001 12:51:00 -0500 I've been thinking a great deal that some of the characters for badorb remind me a great deal of characters from a comic book called Scud: The disposable assassin. they have the same mismatch of animal parts and things, to make really tripped out combinations. It's just that the badorb stuff seems to have more of a space theme. The story is about a robot, called a Scud. A disposable assassin, that you purchase from a vending machine, give it a target, it hunts it down, destroys it, then self destructs after completing it's job. the main character is a Scud who is given a target, and during his hunt and assassination attempts, he learns that he will die if he completes his mission. Becoming like any self aware robot, he doesn't want to die. So he confronts his target, Jeff, who ends up becoming his arch enemy. Jeff is a perfect example of this badorb character design style. Jeff is a 20ft creature with a Cat's body, an electric plug for a head (the round three-pronged kind), mousetraps for hands, a squid strapped across his belly, and human arms for legs, which evidently have mouths on the knees that speaks using soundbites from films, music, and historical events... Kinda like the Orb and how they use samplers. Anyways, the plot goes that as he learns he will self destruct, he just maims, Jeff, blowing off his arms and legs, and has a hospital put him on life support. So the series continues as Scud goes freelance hitman, to flip the bill for Jeff's hospitalization. the stories are violent, but extremely hilarious, and quite surreal and trippy. Fan's of Pulp Fiction would dig this series quite well. Currently the series seems to be in limbo, he got to a cliffhanger ending, and it just stopped. There was word long ago that there was a movie to be made and was in production, but who knows where that is now. If you are interested, stop by your local comic shop, and ask for it by name. You can pick up the bound paperback collections to save you the effort of finding all the issues. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: [(orb) badorb.com]] Date: 17 May 2001 14:30:45 EDT Thanks for the info! < tries to relax ;) > "-> rachel" wrote: hey kids! as someone who works in web development, i can honestly say that 80% of websites don't happen on schedule. i am SURE they will let us know when we're able to give them money... don't sweat it. =3D) rachel ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) shoreline area one Date: 17 May 2001 21:23:21
Got my ticket to the shoreline amphitheatre area one festival this morning--looks to me like the orb are gonna be in the DJ tent only, but it's difficult to tell.  8 years for new order to play here again is a long time....
 
--spearman
 
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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) xmission member list? Date: 17 May 2001 18:24:20 -0600 has anyone else received an email from "sea turtle" asking for lfc mixes? this guy keeps pestering me for them. wants to BUY them. says he got my name from an "xmission user list." anyone? just curious.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (orb) searching for a record name Date: 17 May 2001 19:29:08 -0500 greetings all and sorry for the OT post... I'm looking for a 12" record, not sure who by, that I heard in late 1990, early 1991 entitled "These Stars of Ours" or something to that effect. If anyone out there has any lead on this or any idea what I'm talking about, please let me know. Thanks a bunch! lysergic ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) xmission member list? Date: 17 May 2001 16:47:06 -0800 (AKDT) Sounds like spam or scam. Take your pick. If he was for real he'd just ask on the list, and he'd get them for free (or for media and postage costs). 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) searching for a record name Date: 17 May 2001 21:04:55 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 17 May 2001, Lysergic Dream wrote: > I'm looking for a 12" record, not sure who by, that I heard in late > 1990, early 1991 entitled "These Stars of Ours" or something to that > effect. If anyone out there has any lead on this or any idea what I'm > talking about, please let me know. Thanks a bunch! hm...marc almond's "the stars we are" is nice...although not probably what you want. :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: (orb) spams? Date: 17 May 2001 22:33:22 -0400 heh.. I also got an email from seaturtle.. he writes: "i saw your name up on a orb chat or something...." the to line is actually to mr don gagen... deleted.. -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) xmission member list? Date: 17 May 2001 20:41:24 -0600 that's what i'm thinking. i'm just wondering how this chap got my email whilst looking for lfc. hmmmmmm.... > > > Sounds like spam or scam. Take your pick. > > If he was for real he'd just ask on the list, and he'd get > them for free > (or for media and postage costs). > > 'james > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! Date: 17 May 2001 23:44:45 EDT Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock etc, etc.. In answer to inquiries I have received: TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. Hope you can all be there!! bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! Date: 17 May 2001 21:52:02 -0600 I say we meet some where on IRC. How about undernet #badorb??? Just a thought. 'bette apologies if this idea has been suggested and shot down. Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is > important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized > to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock > etc, etc.. > > In answer to inquiries I have received: > > TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts > at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), > > Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and > times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = > 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, > Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = > 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. > > Hope you can all be there!! > bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) > > Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly > edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. > Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) > there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike olivera Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! Date: 17 May 2001 21:02:47 -0700 (PDT) i'm at a friends , who has dsl. I know this is asked so often , its embarrasing. but please , please can someone send me all the FTP sites hosting the live orb ,,and music of the same type (like maybe a tino show) thanks peoplees liquidw aka glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 18 May 2001 13:22:10 +0800 womble pointed out that it will be saturday 3pm here in west oz I'll be in the car driving down south to play with rhibosome, so thats actually perfect! unless of course the whole thing works and I evolve whilst driving and crash the car.... KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! Date: 18 May 2001 02:10:55 EDT lets meet on the irc dal.net server in the #ambient channel its a cool one, or just #orb In a message dated Thu, 17 May 2001 11:54:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, orbette writes: << I say we meet some where on IRC. How about undernet #badorb??? Just a thought. 'bette apologies if this idea has been suggested and shot down. Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is > important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized > to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock > etc, etc.. > > In answer to inquiries I have received: > > TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts > at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), > > Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and > times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = > 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, > Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = > 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. > > Hope you can all be there!! > bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) > > Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly > edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. > Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) > there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) kris weston unreleased album Date: 18 May 2001 16:06:22 +0800 http://www.melt2000.com/releases/elm8026.html anyone know anything more about this? Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) spams? Date: 18 May 2001 09:48:49 -0400 He probably found a posting you guys made in the past thru a search engine picking up on the list archives. Your emails would be right there with your posting. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) spams? Date: 18 May 2001 09:16:43 -0500 > He probably found a posting you guys made in the > past thru a search engine picking up on the list > archives. Your emails would be right there with > your posting. That's what I was thinking, too. Every so often I do a search for my own name to see where it pops up online, and there are always several hits from mailings lists to which I've posted (usually accompanied by a reaction of "did I write *that*?"). Try it! Alternately, you could pretend that you're "seaturtle" looking for the LFC singles and I'll bet you'll get the same search results he did with various posts from this list. My guess would be that it's nothing too sinister; just some guy looking for LFC singles and using the net-related means at his disposal to do so. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 18 May 2001 10:29:09 -0500 Well, It will be 2 am here in Texas. I'll be in, but I will also be alone and completly sober, and probably quite sleepy. I guess I'll hop on dalnet and see what anyone has to say about thier experiences. And of course, I'll have disk two of ultraworld playing and my headphones on. Perhaps those of us who will be on irc should meet up a little early so we can do a countdown to playtime. Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 18 May 2001 11:37:38 -0400 Count me in. I'm particular to efnet myself, but I can handle dalnet if it means meeting up with fellow orbsters (who I should mention are more enlightened than most people). Someone please post the date/time of this gathering a few days beforehand so I make sure to stay awake that night. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Date: 18 May 2001 11:55:23 -0400 I believe it's tonight. depending on your time zone based off of California. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: orb + irc Date: 18 May 2001 09:50:28 -0700 >Count me in. I'm particular to efnet myself, but I can handle dalnet if it >means meeting up with fellow orbsters (who I should mention are more >enlightened than most people). > >Someone please post the date/time of this gathering a few days beforehand so >I make sure to stay awake that night. :) this has been mentioned a couple times over the last few years, but me and a few other people have had #theorb on efnet for several years now...it's basically only a few people in there, but hey..if you feel like it pop in... not to discourage this dalnet meetup for the around the world listening..that sounds pretty cool to me :) matt. WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: orb + irc Date: 18 May 2001 13:21:01 -0400 > this has been mentioned a couple times over the last few years, > but me and a few other people have had #theorb on efnet for > several years now...it's basically only a few people in there, > but hey..if you feel like it pop in... I can certainly idle there, as I'm in about 20 other channels at all times anyhow. :) Allright, glad to know! You guys have a proper botnet, etc? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) the brown, blue & green once more promos Date: 18 May 2001 14:12:30 -0400 (EDT) I just picked up all three @ once from some dude on ebay for like $30. :) I am going home this weekend for my 5-yr high school reunion (Oh boy!) but when I return, would people like me to dub MP3's from the non-commercially available tracks on these? I guess these tracks would be: Once More - Mark's Slide Mix Once More - Ft Explores Satan " - Mark's Steamroller mix " - Scourge of the Earth long mix " - Mark Pritchard remix If there is enought interest I will MP3'ify these songs from vinyl (no depopping, you guys can do that yourselves if you want :P) on monday when I return from boston. Also, does anyone know which one is the cauty remix? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: (orb) OT: ALPHA Date: 18 May 2001 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT) okay okay I know i don't post that frequently, and it sucks that this is OT, but after hitting play for the 4th time in a row on the same CD, I had to write this... if you're one who likes ultra downtempo-cool music (think massive attack on valium), you MUST hear the new alpha album "the impossible thrill". I've really never heard anything like it... they blended their own older sounds with many more torch-song-ish vocals, a kind of radioheadish use of the rhodes keyboard, and some great dub bass. and I think they got a full orchestra this time. God I sound like a total advertisement; I'm taken by this album, just be forewarned it is mellower than mellow, if you like dance beats you won't find them here unless you like to waltz. 10/10 for me. on a more orbish note, I am really jealous of those of you who are getting to see them. Stuck in ohio... howcome nobody rocks cleveland anymore? Oh and also out samplespotting, I found an old really bad house tune called ninebar blues that used the harmonica samples from LFC/whatever movie that was Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 12:01:01 -0700 just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore? [no personal attack on ben is intended, who kindly offered to MP3 his Once Mor esingles which he just purchased] i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who produced them. am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a version to play on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local shops? =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!!! Date: 18 May 2001 15:06:00 EDT The giant leap in evolution will take place in exactly 11 hours, 53 minutes and 59 seconds. - One small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind. If you don't hear from any of us again you know that either it has all gone horribly wrong, or that we have now advanced to the next stage. Good luck everyone!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 15:06:55 -0400 > am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a > version to play > on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate > gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score > at my local > shops? I buy when I can -- otherwise i'll look for the mp3... I help those I can. Sometimes, a used scratched up record is good for the collection, but wouldn't you prefer to listen to the CD someone made for you by their unscratched brand new record? I for example plan on digitally streaming all Badorb releases and pressing CDs to spare the records any wear. One listen each is good enough! And if I can spare a few people the need to break the seal on theirs, I shall.. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 15:10:03 -0400 (EDT) > just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore? [no personal > attack on ben is intended, who kindly offered to MP3 his Once Mor esingles > which he just purchased] No offense taken. :) > i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official > releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like > eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record Well yes and no. Eil.com is notorious for listing shit that it once had and now no longer has. As far as this particular release being readily available, I'm gonna have to call your bluff on that one. I spent a while looking for these in stores and only saw it once. I mean, they were only promos released in small numbers. And once they're gone, they're gone. :) > player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of > stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? I am readily satisfied by burning copies until such time as getting actual physical copies is has come. I mean, it takes WAY less effort to burn a copy than to hunt and search and look for an actual copy. And for those who are in the middle of this process, making a copy is sometimes the only choice. > personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i > have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these > items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who > produced them. You are correct of course, but look at it from someone else's perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? It's not fair to assume everyone has your resources at their disposal. :) > am i showing my age here? No comment. :) :) :) > or is everyone just looking for a version to play > on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate > gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local > shops? No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the material in some form AT ALL! :) NP - Orb - SuperNova @ the end of the universe.mp3 (MADE FROM MY PERSONAL COPY WHICH LIVES AT HOME!!! :P) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: (orb) chat tonight on dalnet Date: 18 May 2001 15:12:40 -0400 shucks.. My girly is coming over tonight and I don't think I'll be around at 3:00am my time. :( You guys will just have to take a deep breath and go to efnet and idle in #theorb sometime in the near future. I'll load up the CD player before bed so I'm in the "spirit". Luckily, my girl digs the orb so she don't mind if I put it on for us to sleep to. ---- mark n schieldrop mark@specimen37.com www.specimen37.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) what does it all mean?] Date: 18 May 2001 15:22:37 EDT I'm with you on this. Not a big fan of mp3s, and I love the "chase". I = enjoy the new addition to my collection that much more after hunting for it for= a while! "-> rachel" wrote: personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of the= se items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist w= ho produced them. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 12:26:43 -0700 > Well yes and no. Eil.com is notorious for listing shit that it >once had and now no longer has. As far as this particular release being i bought all three from eil.com no problem, but i know sometimes these things happen. (i also jumped on it and bought them when they first hit the streets) however, that said, half of these mixes are available on the UK cd singles, which *are* readily available >getting actual physical copies is has come. I mean, it takes WAY less >effort to burn a copy than to hunt and search and look for an actual copy. exactly my point. why walk down to the store for something which is a current release when you can sit on your butt in front of the computer? >perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you >do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant >record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? it is fair to assume that everyone has internet access, though. i live in San Francisco and still wind up buying a lot of stuff online from england. and i ain't rich, i just have my priorities straight! =) [look for me living in a cardboard box marked "Orb" next month] > No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice >to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the >material in some form AT ALL! :) this is certainly true, my friend. always nice to hear the thoughts of other fanatics like myself... =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 11:27:55 -0800 (AKDT) On Fri, 18 May 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > You are correct of course, but look at it from someone else's > perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you > do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant > record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? Hear, hear! Think of where I am! We have one independent music store here in town that I know of, and it seems to cater to the metalhead and noizepunk crowd. They think Paul Oakenfold is very obscure... > It's not fair to assume everyone has your resources at their disposal. [...] > No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice > to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the > material in some form AT ALL! :) In my case it's nearly impossible to get anything but the most widely distributed albums. I had to buy ABTU online because nobody had it here, or could be convinced to order it (they said "That's some weird English album and it'd be a pain for us to order it from England." mostly because they'd pay some nasty shipping fees -- nevermind that it could be gotten from the US without any hard work :P). If I wanted something as obscure as the latest promo single then I'd be hard pressed to find it here even with a large spiked club in my hand. Also, keep in mind that shipping anything from the rest of America to Alaska is *very* expensive, since it either comes by boat or by plane. Ordering a single CD online nets me a shipping and handling charge of about $7 - $10. And that's the cheap fare. So often I have not much choice other than to get MP3s if I want to actually hear the music. I'd dearly love to have the actual CD releases, simply because they sound better and because I get to look at the cover art. And the experience is so much more visceral :). But one takes what one can get... So think about your brethren (and sestren) who live in the far corners of the world before you start decrying alternative music distribution methods (legal or not). Sometimes I feel more cut off than the Australian orbophiles. At least they get country-sized promotion. Alaska gets nothing. Except for Cinderella and Yngwie Malmsteen playing at Chilkoot Charlie's. Bleah. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) > i bought all three from eil.com no problem, but i know sometimes these > things happen. (i also jumped on it and bought them when they first hit > the streets) however, that said, half of these mixes are available on the > UK cd singles, which *are* readily available They are ALL available on CD single? Really? And yeah I forgot to mention the bit about (I assumed this was the case) how you got them all quick and stuff. > exactly my point. why walk down to the store for something which is a > current release when you can sit on your butt in front of the computer? You're taking my statement out of context. I wasn't implying that this should SUPPLANT the process of searching out your own legitimate copy but just that for those poor souls who, for whatever reason, are unable to get nice copies, being able to download one instantly is definately a bonus. > it is fair to assume that everyone has internet access, though. i live in > San Francisco and still wind up buying a lot of stuff online from england. And how much do you pay for shipping? And how much time do you spend on the internet trying to find this stuff? I mean, a lot of people try and limit the amount they use the internet every day either because they get charged hourly or they don't want to tie up their phone line or it just takes too long to do the footwork (most people in the US still use dialup). I mean, everybody doesn't have the cash to pay $8 for shipping and $20 for the record to some guy in the UK who knows that if you don't pay him his $30 someone else just like you will. For instance, when I was laid off, I had no income (except for good ole uncle sam's unemployment, which only just covered my rent + rice & beans every day). My desire for music wasn't lessened, but my internet access and cash flow were! Just reminding you to keep things in perspective. :) > and i ain't rich, i just have my priorities straight! =) [look for me > living in a cardboard box marked "Orb" next month] Heh heh. At least you have them in some semblence of order. :) > this is certainly true, my friend. always nice to hear the thoughts of > other fanatics like myself... Its so nice to be thought of as fanatical. Joking. :) I really am. I own far too much orb than any one person should be allowed to amass in one lifetime. Or two for that matter. -Ben "My karma will bite me in the ass someday" May ps: I didn't mean to ryhme. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: (orb) the brown, blue & green once more promos Date: 18 May 2001 13:47:11 -0700 > > I just picked up all three @ once from some dude on ebay for like >$30. :) I am going home this weekend for my 5-yr high school reunion (Oh >boy!) but when I return, would people like me to dub MP3's from the >non-commercially available tracks on these? I guess these tracks would be: > > Once More - Mark's Slide Mix > Once More - Ft Explores Satan > " - Mark's Steamroller mix > " - Scourge of the Earth long mix > " - Mark Pritchard remix first off, damn you! i've been checking ebay and i haven't seen the one with the scourge of the earth mix yet (everyone's got the bedrock/lfc one :( anyway, afaik these have already been mp3-ified...a few months ago, actually (i think from a promo cd, or else there was no vinyl interference)..got 'em from one of the orb ftp sites (they're un-named, but come with a txt file saying which song is which). the scourge of the earth mix is the jimi cauty mix, btw...he's made a few other singles under that name as well (which are all pretty good, imo).. anyway, my feeling on the subject- i think the mixes available on commercial single (both cd and 12") shouldn't be available..the promo stuff i say ok, i guess (assuming there aren't 9,000,000 promos running around (which there aren't, since i've been looking))... btw, i'm still looking for the scourge of the earth and ft explores satan mixes on vinyl, so if anyone wants to ditch 'em lemme know... :) matt. WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 14:04:40 -0700 > i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official > releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like > eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record > player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of > stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? Not like pawn shops don't have record players cheap! I.e. not 12s of course. BTW, eil.com has refused to respond to two emails about their shipping - not a good way to earn my business! > personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i > have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these > items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who > produced them. No doubt - me too - but does money actually get to the artist for "promo only" releases? That is where my philosophical objection to copies lies - IF the material is IN PRINT (not used version that you are lucky to find and which artist doesn't get money for anyway) then you have no business having a copy. If out of print, unobtainable, and the record company doesn't see fit to make it so - then copyright law in that case is unfair and unrealistic - a copy is entirely justified. Just like the game companies throw fits about MAME roms - well, why don't they release them (as Williams did though I haven't been able to find it)!? > am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a version to play > on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate > gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local > shops? Definitely not! And don't forget - compressed audio is NOT high fidelity! Records still sound better than CDs - and MP3 isn't even in the ball park. Tim C. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 18:43:52 EDT i have to totally agree with you, go buy the albums, i did . . shit they are on ebay.com all the time for like $12 each. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Fri, 18 May 2001 3:03:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "-> rachel" writes: << just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore? [no personal attack on ben is intended, who kindly offered to MP3 his Once Mor esingles which he just purchased] i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who produced them. am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a version to play on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local shops? =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: kris weston unreleased album / Re: what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 15:50:36 -0700 >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:06:22 +0800 >From: Simon Bennett >Subject: (orb) kris weston unreleased album > >http://www.melt2000.com/releases/elm8026.html > >anyone know anything more about this? Not to make a really pointless response or anything, but "No!" Other than that Thrash, along with Greg Hunter, has been participating quite a bit on various Electric Melt releases. It might be worth inquiring of the Electric Melt folks why this release has been shelved. >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:01:01 -0700 >From: "-> rachel" >Subject: (orb) what does it all mean? > >just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore [snip] >am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a version to play >on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate >gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local >shops? Hi Rachel. =) I've found this to be a fascinating thread, since, as an aspiring recording artist, I think about this subject quite a bit. I'd say you're not showing your age necessarily, but rather a certain disposition toward interacting with music. As the MP3 revolution has abundantly pointed out, there's no essential reason that music has to be tied to a physical medium or therefore package. It is not unreasonable for listeners to appreciate music a la carte, as it were. But since until now music has been tied to a physical package, artists have taken advantage of that fact to present visual art and text to complement the music. Having the fetishistic approach to music that I do, I tend to think of an album that I care about as "incomplete" without this original packaging, and purchasing the CD provides can provide an important interaction with the artist and/or music business. But I realize that this is just a mindset, since for albums that I don't care so much about I think little of possessing MP3s. However, I think that the most ethical use of MP3s is on a "try before you buy" basis, since music is one of the few products that does not intrinsically permit consumers to interact with it before purchasing. Essentially, I'm not too worried about whether packaging ultimately goes out of style. What is a more pressing issue, in my opinion, is how professional musicians get paid when music is extracted from medium. I've also heard of artists (e.g. Muslimgauze) making public note of which of their recordings are out of print, and thereby giving fans license to freely duplicate and share them. Makes good sense to me. On a related note, I'm intending to convert my recording of Banco de Gaia's /Freeform Flutes and Fading Tibetans/ to MP3 and make it available to y'all, but first wanted to check if any of you might have a better quality recording? Mine is from a cassette of the unknownth-generation and has some EQ issues, though it sounds through a wee soundblaster. I hope Toby doesn't mind. I'll be the first in line if he reissues it. Good heavens, I do ramble on. -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: orb + irc Date: 18 May 2001 18:58:56 -0400 > You guys have a proper botnet, etc? > > ----- > > not currently, but I can get mine back up if there's any interest... Do it! I'll be on tonight. A botnet never hurts. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (orb) Teatime? and more... Date: 18 May 2001 16:37:57 -0700 The 5/3/01 Teatime set has been up on the Groovetech site for a while...and the April ones seem to have disappeared... Also, there is an amazingly cool stream from another source that seems to be on the horizon...it isn't up yet, but I'll let everyone know when it is. This is going to make us all very happy. :D Chris np: Underworld - Live @ Fuji Rock Festival 7/30/99 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Wigman Subject: (orb) Recording your Orb vinyl down to mp3s? Read this! Date: 19 May 2001 00:53:06 +0100 Warning: rant coming up! Athough if you're not using lame to create your mp3s, I strongly recommend you read on... >Definitely not! And don't forget - compressed audio is NOT high >fidelity! Records still sound better than CDs - and MP3 isn't even in >the ball park. Hang on! This depends strongly upon the bitrate, my friend. 256kbits encoding using the newest version of lame sounds spotless every time, if given a good source. If you give it crap, you'll just get crap back! :) If you're using any other encoder, then you need to get off your arse and grab lame and razorlame NOW. Even the newest versions of the Fraunhofer codec suck badly by comparison (especially if you're trying to go for best quality), and to think fhg charge a few hundred smackers for it, whereas lame is free! I don't even want to begin to think about how the open, dynamically wide recordings of Adventures Beyond... would sound using fhg's encoders even at 192kbits. Bleargh. And as for rips from vinyl... forget it. Use Lame or you'll get poor results. Those of you that are aware of the masking process that mp3s employ should agree that they, when using these higher bitrates, are a much more efficient way of storing high-quality audio than uncompressed audio because - with due care taken - you're left with only what you _need_ to hear. All that other - unneeded - information is discarded. MPEG+ does an even better job, and is just as free (check www.maz-sound.com). As for records sounding better than CDs: not necessarily. A good deck & cart (head straight for technics and ortofon) may well give nice and warm analogue reproduction, but it is still a vastly inferior medium to CDs (think about what's involved in getting the audio from the platter to your amp, and compare it with the digital signal path of CD). Despite this, I love the sound of vinyl, but appreciate the accurate reproduction compact discs give. So I think I'm darn lucky to have good players for both. Need proof to back up both issues? Go here: http://www.r3mix.net - links to lame+razorlame are on the links page. Sorry by the way, I just needed to get this off my chest. Too many people - including many pro's in the industry - decry mp3s for being lossy. The thing is, they aren't _that_ lossy if you know how to tame em! :) So those of you copying down your Once More vinyl (I haven't touched mine at all, personally), should heed the advice here if you want to create good mp3s from them. Chris. chis:matrik | ambience&idm www.matrik.ndo.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Recording your Orb vinyl down to mp3s? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 19:59:56 -0400 Look here: The orb immensely digital in it's composition. I'd be more inclined to worry about finding digital speakers than a good deck. :P > As for records sounding better than CDs: not necessarily. A good deck & > cart (head straight for technics and ortofon) may well give nice and warm > analogue reproduction, but it is still a vastly inferior medium to CDs > (think about what's involved in getting the audio from the platter to your > amp, and compare it with the digital signal path of CD). Despite this, I > love the sound of vinyl, but appreciate the accurate reproduction compact > discs give. So I think I'm darn lucky to have good players for both. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 20:02:21 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 19 May 2001, Chris Wigman wrote: > Warning: rant coming up! Athough if you're not using lame to create > your mp3s, I strongly recommend you read on... i knew this would turn into am argument. nobody can ever say "mp3s don't sound good" or "cd's don't sound good" without somebody trying to prove them wrong. the facts are: for the audiophiles, cd (and definitely mp3) won't cut it, as they're not reproducing the full range of frequencies. for other folk, mp3 and cd may be just fine. cd and mp3 do not reproduce the full range of frequencies, so technically they are imperfect. that's IT! now stop. nobody ever wins this argument; it's worse than mac vs PC. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Agust A J Subject: (orb) :) Date: 19 May 2001 00:28:34 +0000 speaking of cd shopping etc... I just couldn't resist plugging my crappy little page which I use when looking for stuff to shop: http://cds-search.net/ (aka http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1/cdsearch.html :P would love it if someone actually used it and *gasp* send me feedback once in a while ;) (like, about other places I can add to the page) as for originals vs copies vs mp3s... I guess my view is mp3s is handy for previewing or hearing OOP stuff copies are handy too for OOP stuff, but in print stuff oughta be shopped. it at least shows that the artists are supported, no matter how much or little. and better sales does mean a better change of wider distribution. on the other hand... I do get peeved though that I can't buy some of the stuff I want on cd (ie, stuff which is released on vinyl only). I don't have a record player, and... if I can't buy the tracks I want on cd, then I won't have too bad moral about copying that stuff, if I possibly can. and as for 2nd hand/rarities selling for obscene prices, it always kinda peeves me that the musicians never see a slice of that cake. they might be starving or having problems meeting ends, and someone somewhere is selling their "rare" stuff for like $50-100+ & they'll never see anything of it apart from the tiny cut they got from the original sale. :p ultimately though, I guess it all just ends up depending on how we value the music & what we're willing to do for it. :) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nem1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 20:54:44 -0400 haha, well now that makes some sense. Luckily I have a delta and nice balanced analog inputs that are capable of recording at 24bit/96kHz. :) I'll dump vinyl that way to hard disk. :P > no, that isn't always better. most pro studios record at a 96kHz/48-bit > sampling rate - this encompasses signals far beyond the range of human > hearing, the frequencies that make the harmonics that get "chopped off" on > a cd or an mp3 (both of which are max 44.1kHz/16-bit). if that master > recording is then pressed on vinyl, no recorded frequencies are lost. (of > course, recording onto analogue tape makes sure every frequency produced > by the instruments is recorded...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) THE HOLE ORB LIST -N- TO THE ORB & my mom dated Perry Como's brother!!! Date: 18 May 2001 17:57:23 -0700 (PDT) > It'll be at 3am on Friday - for us Floor-idians. > I'll see what I can do as > well. For Real. mmmmm, my sony dreammachine is set now accordingly EST. ... are you with me??? Now Playing - Artificial Inteliigence I -- Loving You (radio edit) XJoey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 16:58:30 -0800 (AKDT) On Fri, 18 May 2001, laerm wrote: > > On Sat, 19 May 2001, Chris Wigman wrote: > > > Warning: rant coming up! Athough if you're not using lame to create > > your mp3s, I strongly recommend you read on... > > i knew this would turn into am argument. nobody can ever say "mp3s don't > sound good" or "cd's don't sound good" without somebody trying to prove > them wrong. You're wrong! I can say "CD's don't sound good" while holding a large tub of lard and making threatening movements towards my audience, and none of them try to prove me wrong! So there! [...] > that's IT! now stop. nobody ever wins this argument; it's worse than mac > vs PC. No, no, no, it's more like VI versus Emacs. One side loves great versatility at the price of inconvenience (the analog side), the other side loves simplicity at the price of quality (the digital side). Honestly though, I wonder if it's not more like Ford vs Chevy. In other words, the whole argument is completely immaterial and a handful of people at the top have snowed everyone beneath them. fnorduliciously 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Wigman Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching... Sorry to those who think so, but I AM Date: 19 May 2001 02:07:06 +0100 Orb peeps - I apologise for verging offtopic, but I wanted to take this chance to give those who were interested some _good_ info on mp3 quality. Again, if you're wanting to get your Orb tracks down to mp3, then I can only recommend the info I've given, as well as the unbiased report on mp3 quality, at www.r3mix.net. This was the point of my post - as a muso and a music lover, I am very concerned about audio quality, but I'm equally concerned about storing said audio in a convinient and useable form. If you are too, then check that site out. >> Warning: rant coming up! Athough if you're not using lame to create >> your mp3s, I strongly recommend you read on... Okay, perhaps not a rant then... :) >i knew this would turn into am argument. nobody can ever say "mp3s don't >sound good" or "cd's don't sound good" without somebody trying to prove >them wrong. NOT ONCE DID I SAY "such and such sounded shite." I love my vinyl thankyou - if I can grab mp3s of releases, then I can by the vinyl and never have to touch it. It becomes an investment. CDs can be just the same! Laerm, you've just proven yourself to be more ignorant than I am. You didn't READ my post, did you? It boils down to: MP3s sound fine if you use lame at 256kbits. Vinyl may be outdated - but it still usually sounds great. CDs are a much more accurate audio media and therefore can sound much "cleaner," and "flatter" but aren't as warm as a good bit of vinyl. But even so, that doesn't mean they sound bad (if they do then it's the fault of the person who recorded/mastered it). Again, NOT ONCE DID I SAY "such and such didn't sound good." And I think you'll find I wasn't arguing either. Shock horror, back on topic (ish): the Cydonia v1 mp3s. I think it was turn it down, or ralf, or somewhere halfway through the album where one part in particular was affected by the "mp3-warble." I _then_ found out that the mp3s were made with realjukebox. Oh dear - this explains everything. You see if the person who encoded it had used lame at similar settings, it most likely would have sounded fine... doesn't bother me though, it's a top album no matter what. Just an observation - ok? >the facts are: >for the audiophiles, cd (and definitely mp3) won't cut it, as they're not >reproducing the full range of frequencies. >for other folk, mp3 and cd may be just fine. Ah, audiophiles do not necessarily equal a muso or pro engineer. The former looks for valve amps to "warm up" his sound, man (and is usually a stuck up bastiche with too much cash ;). The latter just wants gear that reproduces as accurate a sound as poss, and will last for more than a few years. I want to hear what my synths really sound like - thank you very much. >cd and mp3 do not reproduce the full range of frequencies, so technically >they are imperfect. That doesn't mean that they "don't sound good" though eh? You don't need to reproduce the full range of frequencies - fer christsakes we usually can't hear above 20kHz anyway, so there's little need to keep much above it (I'd argue for up to 22kHz to be safe). Because of this, mp3 and CD are more than enough. Especially now as CD-R storage is so damned affordable. Micah, please don't make a habit of jumping the gun like this. I took out an hour of my time to write that mail - which I believe was accurate and unbiased, and certainly wasn't attempting to start an argument. Yours, now totally exhausted, ;) Chris. chis:matrik | ambience&idm www.matrik.ndo.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 21:13:14 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 18 May 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > You're wrong! I can say "CD's don't sound good" while holding a large > tub of lard and making threatening movements towards my audience, and > none of them try to prove me wrong! So there! hm, well, good point, i'm not arguing with a man with a tub of lard. :) > No, no, no, it's more like VI versus Emacs. One side loves great > versatility at the price of inconvenience (the analog side), the other > side loves simplicity at the price of quality (the digital side). good point. wait, they make analogue-flavoured unix? ;) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 18 May 2001 18:18:47 -0700 > I mean, it takes WAY less effort to burn a copy than > to hunt and search and look for an actual copy. A ha! There you have it. This is not an addicted record/CD collector. Collecting is a drug, you spend endless time and money tracking these things down. You will even go into major debt from time to time. The satisfaction you get once it's obtained, and then, on to the next one. You've never bought the last record or CD, it's an endless cycle that goes on years and years. Less effort? There's no such thing in record collecting. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 18 May 2001 17:22:47 -0800 (AKDT) On Fri, 18 May 2001, laerm wrote: > > On Fri, 18 May 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > > > You're wrong! I can say "CD's don't sound good" while holding a large > > tub of lard and making threatening movements towards my audience, and > > none of them try to prove me wrong! So there! > > hm, well, good point, i'm not arguing with a man with a tub of lard. :) > > > No, no, no, it's more like VI versus Emacs. One side loves great > > versatility at the price of inconvenience (the analog side), the other > > side loves simplicity at the price of quality (the digital side). > > good point. > > wait, they make analogue-flavoured unix? ;) Shore, din't ya know that Linux is ported to tha abacus? ... I shoun't raid so maich Scots -- it's haird an me Ingliss... (http://www.lallans.co.uk/) Neix thing ya ken, I shou be spaek'n Law Sax'n or summuch. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) : ) ALPHA ( : Date: 18 May 2001 18:31:38 -0700 (PDT) > on a more orbish note, I am really jealous of those > of you who are getting > to see them. Right, "Hey Ant; (ORBsCURE & Common Knowledge)when can we see the celluloid madness & pictures I took?!?!" Stuck in ohio... howcome nobody rocks > cleveland anymore? Oh > and also out samplespotting, I found an old really > bad house tune called > ninebar blues that used the harmonica samples from > LFC/whatever movie that > was ............ only 5 1/2 hrs till TRANCENDENTAL ORB PARTY 2,001 so glad wer're invited.... my birthday is also next month on the 17th!!!! I think I am going to guest host TPA Community Radio again the next day after... stay tuned ...... ===== Joe from FL "Be Self - Actualised" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephan Hesse" Subject: (orb) AHEGPBTRFRTOTU demo Date: 19 May 2001 15:51:37 +0800 Music Friends! Remember the discussion about the quality of the 60' version of AHEG a while ago...?? Well, RJ contacted me to let me know that the original on tape was just as crappy as his cd version...unfortunately. To add even more to the bad news: my pet rabbit -proudly named Orby - moved on to a better place last week... :-< :-( ...sad, sad, sad. Yours Truly, Steph... -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: (orb) Orb releases Date: 19 May 2001 12:14:02 +0100 For those of you interested:- The US release of the Once More single on MCA records has exactly the same listing as the UK one. It looks totally different, and is the same sort of style as the US Cydonia promo i.e. no front cover and details on the back [is this a MCA thing or US promo thing? not really noticed before]. It looks quite cool with the CD being a nice blue and silver colour with the blue continued in the plastic surround, and for those collectors amongst you it's worth getting..... The timing for the Tenaglia LFC mix is slightly different from the UK one, but without playing it [what's the point?] I'm sure it's the same cut. I've no idea about "normal" stateside release...but I would imagine it would have different tracks. Just an educated guess. For the spotters, the catalogue number is MCAR-25352-2 "promotional CD - Not for sale" Also - gave the Orb remix of the Another Fine Day track a few listens. It doesn't say which one is which, but I'll go for the 15 minuteish one on side b. It's ok, not particulary outstanding, but ok. Reminds me in places of the Grid's Flotation and the orb remix of Material/Mantra with the Indian drum type things. Sort of dubby and low tempo with a nice bass line and snare drum on. Couple of breaks drop in and out and then play backwards and stuff. Whole thing sounds like it was recorded underwater. Noticed myself nodding along whilst reading a book, so can't be that bad ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ORB DATES Date: 19 May 2001 16:12:21 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com afternoon all... ...just to let you know some Orb Live dates - not sure if i have already posted these or not but this is what i have which is confirmed: THE ORB - LIVE DATES (as of May 18th) MAY 24 TEL AVIV HEINEKEN FESTIVAL 26 HOMELANDS, WINCHESTER JUNE 23 MADRID LA CUBIERTA 29 PRAGUE FESTIVAL JULY 5 DOUR FESTIVAL, BELGIUM 7 MECO FESTIVAL, PORTUGAL 13 ARVIKA FESTIVAL,SWEDEN + 14 MOBY TOUR 15 WANTAGH JONES BEACH - NEW YORK 16 WANTAGH JONES BEACH 17 18 BOSTON TWEETER 19 HOLMEDALE PNC 20 MONTREAL PARC DES ILES 21 22 TORONTO DOCKS 23 24 DETROIT DTE MUSIC CENTER 25 CHICAGO NEW WORLD AMPH 26 MINNEAPOLIS MIDWAY STADIUM 27 28 DENVER MILE HIGH 29 30 31 SAN FRANCISCO SHORELINE AUGUST 01 02 VANCOUVER THUNDERBIRD 03 SEATTLE GORGE 04 05 LOS ANGELES GLEN HELEN cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) Orb releases Date: 19 May 2001 16:17:43 +0100 (BST) matt wrote: > Also - gave the Orb remix of the Another Fine Day > track a few listens. It doesn't say which one is > which, but I'll go for the 15 minuteish one on side > b. It's ok, not particulary outstanding, but ok. nope - that's the coldcut mix. the orb mix is the first of the two tracks on the other side. not bad, but nothing earth-shattering... l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Some rare Orb tracks that are unavailable on any FTP... Date: 19 May 2001 17:30:11 +0200 Maybe someone can put them somewhere?????? Little Fluffy Clouds (ambient mk1) 4:29 Peace (is this really the orb? mix) 3:21 Perpetual Dawn (ultrabass i) 8:06 Blue Room (blue lamp mix) 14:17 from taking liberties Cocksville USA 10:32 from axiom dub Passing of Time (film mix) from mini orblivion Asylum (blood sugar mix) [different mix!!] 10:33 from asylum promo Bicycles & Tricycles [any version] 11:43 Jam On Yer Honey 6:15 Hamlet of Kings [short] 2:14 EDM (the blackhole mix) 4:12 from cydonia uk Requiem pour un c... 5:58 -- == http://i.am/marcolphus ====== Fluke & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Maybe someone need this Date: 19 May 2001 17:35:41 +0200 ::: Cydonia era :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Orb: Once More [12 Feb 2001] single CD5: 2000 NL (Mercury; n/a) [promo; Sep 2000] 58:44 8:13 Once More (bedrock mix) 7:09 Once More (mark's steamroller mix) 10:18 Little Fluffy Clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix) 7:40 Once More (mark's slide mix) 7:50 Once More (mark pritchard remix) 7:54 Once More (bedrock dub) 4:52 Once More (scourge of the earth long mix) 4:48 Once More (ft explores satan) CD5: 2000 UK (Island; CIDDJ 767) [jewelbox; Nov 00] 25:57 3:53 Once More (radio edit) 3:43 Once More (scourge of the earth short mix) 8:03 Once More (bedrock edit 2) 10:18 Little Fluffy Clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix) 12": 2001 UK (Island; 12 IS 767 DJ) [promo; green ps; Jan 01] 25:40 8:13 Once More (bedrock mix) 7:09 Once More (mark's steamroller mix) 10:18 Little Fluffy Clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix) 12": 2001 UK (Island; 12 ISX 767 DJ) [promo; brown ps; Jan 01] 20:22 7:40 Once More (mark's slide mix) 4:48 Once More (ft explores satan) 7:54 Once More (bedrock dub) 12": 2001 UK (Island; 12 ISZ 767 DJ) [promo; dark blue ps; Jan 01] 16:59 4:17 Once More (album version) 4:52 Once More (scourge of the earth long mix) 7:50 Once More (mark pritchard remix) 12": 2001 UK (Island; 12 IS 767/562969-2) 19:59 8:03 Once More (bedrock edit 2) 3:53 Once More (radio edit) 8:03 Little Fluffy Clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix edit) CD5: 2001 UK (Island; CID 767/562969-2) [#1] 19:59 3:53 Once More (radio edit) 8:03 Once More (bedrock edit 2) 8:03 Little Fluffy Clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix edit) CD5: 2001 UK (Island; CIDX 767/562670-2) [#2] 18:52 3:53 Once More (radio edit) 7:50 Once More (mark pritchard remix) 7:09 Once More (mark's steamroller mix) The Orb: Cydonia [29 Feb 2001] album 2xCD-R: 1999 UK (n/a; n/a) ["Album"; initial edits; times inexact; Feb 1999] 94:03 [CD-R #1:] 48:42 12:24 Terminus 5:50 Jam On Yer Honey 4:40 Once More 8:20 Ralf 5:45 Promis 11:43 Bicycles & Tricycles [CD-R #2:] 45:21 9:02 Turn It Down 10:38 Yungle 7:31 Ghostdancing 10:45 A Mile Long Lump Of Lard 7:25 Freely Wheely ["Feely Wheely"] CD-R: 1999 UK (Island; n/a) ["The Orb"; internal promo sampler; Oct 1999] 29:44 4:39 Once More 5:27 Promis 8:38 Mile Long Lump Of Lard 11:00 Terminus CD-R: 1999 UK (Island; n/a) ["Cydonia Version 1"; internal promo; Oct 1999] 70:54 4:39 Once More 5:27 Promis 7:30 Ghost Dancing 8:41 Turn It Down 8:37 Mile Long Lump Of Lard 7:10 Ralf 7:19 Freely Wheely 10:34 Yungle 10:57 Terminus CD-R: 1999 UK (Island; n/a) ["Cydonia Version 2"; internal promo; Dec 1999] 69:50 4:40 Once More 5:27 Promis 7:31 Ghostdancing 8:42 Turn It Down 8:37 Mile Long Lump Of Lard 7:10 Ralf 6:15 Jam On Yer Honey 10:34 Yungle 10:58 Terminus CD: 2001 UK (Island; CID 8100) ["Special Edition" sticker] 72:50 4:18 Once More 5:27 Promis 7:29 Ghostdancing 8:40 Turn It Down 1:59 Egnable 0:46 Firestar 6:21 A Mile Long Lump of Lard 4:22 Centuries 5:22 Plum Island 7:57 Hamlet of Kings 0:36 1,1,1 4:12 EDM (the blackhole mix) 4:07 Thursday's Keeper 11:16 Terminus CD-R: 2000 US (Island; n/a) ["Cydonia Version 3"; promo] 68:48 CD: 2001 EU (Island; CIDX 8100/548 206-2) CD: 2001 US (Island; ??) [27 Feb] 4:18 Once More 5:27 Promis 7:29 Ghostdancing 8:40 Turn It Down 1:59 Egnable 0:46 Firestar 6:21 A Mile Long Lump of Lard 4:23 Centuries 5:22 Plum Island 7:57 Hamlet of Kings 0:37 1,1,1 4:10 Thursday's Keeper 11:17 Terminus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Roedelius remix Date: 19 May 2001 18:13:20 +0200 There is Orb remix of some Roedelius song, what is the name of that song and where it is available??? -- == http://i.am/marcolphus ====== Fluke & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? Date: 19 May 2001 09:20:27 -0700 > You may say, "Why give so many away if your not gonna make any money?" Well, > we need to convince the huge chain of command that this record industry has > to put the CD's on the shelf, and we have to get the name and the music to > the people to convince them to buy that CD, off-the-shelf. > As far as copyright law.. yeah it's kinda dated now.. and actually doesn't > work with today's means of distribution. I believe that any group that has > exclusive rights to copywritten material, should have to use that material > (in other words release it or sell it) within a given amount of time (say 7 > years), then the rights return to the artist. And if the Artist doesn't > attempt to protect it... It becomes public domain... (kinda like a > Trademark). As far as both record label, distribution, and copyright (and ownership thereof) issues go, these guys actually have it pretty together, and this page actually gives a lot of good insight into this (although the writer of this post (one Sean Wolfe, whose ID got snipped along with much text) obviously already understands this): http://www.disciplineglobalmobile.com/newslett/newsl1.htm Very informative for someone outside the business (me, for example) and also very irritating to hear how people (the artists and really the music consumer too - look at the Cydonia release fracas for example) just get roundly diddled on a routine basis. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Recording your Orb vinyl down to mp3s? Read this! Date: 19 May 2001 09:27:52 -0700 > As for records sounding better than CDs: not necessarily. A good deck & > cart (head straight for technics and ortofon) may well give nice and warm > analogue reproduction, but it is still a vastly inferior medium to CDs > (think about what's involved in getting the audio from the platter to your > amp, and compare it with the digital signal path of CD). Despite this, I > love the sound of vinyl, but appreciate the accurate reproduction compact > discs give. So I think I'm darn lucky to have good players for both. No, records inherently sound better than cds because they have a higher frequency response - up to 75-90kHz or so. Yes, this is outside the range of hearing, but sounds IN the range of hearing are affected by harmonics and such OUT of the range of hearing. With CDs, there is a brick wall in frequency response - don't recall if it's around 40kHz or if it stops dead at 20 or 22 or so (but this cutoff does have to do with sampling rate, which is why DVD audio will in fact sound a lot more like vinyl in terms of f response at least - there is a formula for this but I don't know it or what it's called - sorry). Yes, the analog distortion and warmth arguably sound nicer, and on CD's side no pops, static, wear, etc. But a piece of virgin (or well-kept) vinyl - ahhhhh. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Recording your Orb vinyl down to mp3s? Read this! Date: 19 May 2001 09:28:51 -0700 > The orb immensely digital in it's composition. I'd be more inclined to > worry about finding digital speakers than a good deck. :P GIGO T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) Roedelius remix Date: 19 May 2001 18:38:37 +0200 Global Trotters Project - Volume 1 Drive. The Orb Roedelius remix is Drive! Cheers, Dwb. www.uf-orb.com There is Orb remix of some Roedelius song, what is the name of that song and where it is available??? -- == http://i.am/marcolphus ====== Fluke & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: (orb) Off topic - SF Ae show Date: 19 May 2001 09:44:30 -0700 Anyone go to and stay for the entire Autechre show in SF (Oakland, actually) last night? I left after about 5 songs as it was actually pretty annoying - pounding non-danceable beats at high volume when you are tired is not the ticket IMO, as much as I love Ae. Anyone stay for the entire show - did they calm down at all and play anything either classic (Basscadet, Bike) or get more ambient at all? For those interested in other stuff about the show - DHS saved the night and totally rocked. Much more acidic than I was expecting (well, sort of, since Jack Dangers was involved I figured it would have to be good and was not disappointed). They were doing (apparently) some sort of live digital video mixing (content reminded me of EBN stuff) along with the other stuff (and Jack was doing some live drumming a la a MBM show). And, I've never thought that much of the old House of God song - well, I've never heard it like that before. OST (who I am not familiar with, don't know if they are well-known or not) was pretty disappointing - adept at making loud noise and that's about it. But the dj between OST and DHS was farging awesome - intriguing mix of some kind of electro/techno combination and various odd breakbeat stuff - anyone know who this was? So, none of it was the Orb show a few weeks back here (duh), but DHS and then the Orb - that would be a dream bill indeed. Especially if Freaky Chakra played after that.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Birgbauer Subject: (orb) Re: kris weston unreleased album / Re: what does it all Date: 19 May 2001 13:00:31 -0400 on 5/19/01 12:14 PM, orb-digest at owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com wrote: >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:06:22 +0800 >> From: Simon Bennett >> Subject: (orb) kris weston unreleased album >> >> http://www.melt2000.com/releases/elm8026.html >> >> anyone know anything more about this? > > Not to make a really pointless response or anything, but "No!" Other than > that Thrash, along with Greg Hunter, has been participating quite a bit on > various Electric Melt releases. It might be worth inquiring of the Electric > Melt folks why this release has been shelved. the website sez it's coming soon. Shelved is the name of the project/group isn't it? Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) Last nights experiment Date: 19 May 2001 12:28:57 -0500 Just wondering if anyone had anything out of the ordinary happen to them during last nigth's global Orb experiment. Nothing spectacular happened to me, but I did get to meet a couple of people in irc and hear a great streaming shoutcast set by list member Ovation, which was spectacular to me. Only four people came to the chat, so the rest of you must have been either asleep or having fun elswhere. Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Orb releases Date: 19 May 2001 18:25:50 +0100 >>nope - that's the coldcut mix Bugger ;-) Now you say it, it sounds more orbish with the vocal samples etc. Completely washed over me, so that tells you what I thought of it. Coldcut one miles better IMO. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: (orb) DVD-Audio (was Recording your Orb...) Date: 19 May 2001 13:47:38 -0500 > this cutoff does have to do with > sampling rate, which is why DVD audio > will in fact sound a lot more like > vinyl in terms of f response at least Anyone care to start a petition for the next Orb album to be released in 5.1 surround DVD-Audio? With all LX does with panning effects, and with the quadraphonic sound at the shows, I can't imagine that they wouldn't be interested in "painting the room" in 3D... I've had a DVD-Audio player for a few months now, but the trickle of released seems to be dominated by classic rock reissues (ELP, Doors, etc.). Can anyone recommend a more "modern" title or two? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) DVD-Audio clarification Date: 19 May 2001 13:50:37 -0500 > Anyone care to start a petition for the next > Orb album to be released in 5.1 > surround DVD-Audio? IN ADDITION to good ol' stereo wax, CDs, etc, of course (flames off). JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) DVD-Audio (was Recording your Orb...) Date: 20 May 2001 08:12:27 +0800 >>Anyone care to start a petition for the next Orb album to be released in 5.1 >>surround DVD-Audio? With all LX does with panning effects, and with the >>quadraphonic sound at the shows, I can't imagine that they wouldn't be >>interested in "painting the room" in 3D... petition him? he's not exactly a politician.. i would really like to see an Orb DVD though. Underworld and Daft Punk have both had their fun and games with the DVD format: i wouldn't mind seeing the Orb do their bit with DVD at all. goes to wonder what would they put on it though? Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: SV: (orb) Roedelius remix Date: 19 May 2001 20:29:04 EDT In a message dated 5/19/01 12:40:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, u.f.orb@telia.com writes: << Global Trotters Project - Volume 1 Drive. The Orb Roedelius remix is Drive! There is Orb remix of some Roedelius song, what is the name of that song and where it is available??? >> It's already out of print ( I called Rykodisc) , and the orb remix on this CD is not Drive, it's Parallel Motives 2. - -- - -- ---- Chris in NYC - - -- ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: SV: (orb) Roedelius remix Date: 20 May 2001 03:14:13 +0200 That's the one! Sorry for for posting wrong info! :/ Dwb. It's already out of print ( I called Rykodisc) , and the orb remix on this CD is not Drive, it's Parallel Motives 2. - -- - -- ---- Chris in NYC - - -- ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) LFC Ambient Mix Mk1 upped to OAA Date: 20 May 2001 10:23:38 +0800 to anyone who hasn't heard this yet, i've just upped the Ambient mix Mk1 of Little Fluffy Clouds to the OAA (MP3, 192/44). i didn't find it there yet, apologies if it's there already and i didn't look properly. :) Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) ORB spotlight Sunday, on KUSF Date: 19 May 2001 20:46:33 -0700 hey folks! in case anyone's looking for some nice sunday afternoon tunes: (all times are PST) >>http://www.standardmotion.com/orb/ >> >>Join us for two hours of grooveadelic mindwarp when KUSF's Spotlight >>presents the music and sounds of the Orb. >> >>it all goes down from 2-4pm on 90.3 FM KUSF in San Francisco, webcast at >>www.kusf.org. >> >>Selector Jon Setzen will dig into his extensive collection of rare and >>unusual sonic documents, both analog and digital, for a head-spinning >>afternoon of technoambient psychedelia. Avoid operating heavy machinery. >>Bring a boom box, head for the park, lie in the grass. Feelin' groovy ... =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson or Shannon Beets Subject: (orb) The stream I was mentioning... Date: 20 May 2001 02:41:05 -0700 Hi; this is coming from my home address, rather than the usual one... Anyway; the new stream I was hinting at is available: The Orb, live at San Francisco's Maritime Hall. :D Audio and video. It is only 35 minutes, but it still well worth the download. Tracklisting: Blue Room Perpetual Dawn Once More... Towers Of Dub (plus misc. stuff in between...check Gavin's review for the gory details) I found this last week, but held off mentioning it, since it seemed like 2B1 was still tweaking the page (as the URL for the stream wasn't working), but I got bored/impatient and played around with the URL a bit, and figured out that really, it is just that the Maritime's web-staff doesn't know what the hell they are doing, and they buggered the link. The page can be found at: http://www.maritimehall.com/webcast/index.html (Dig the many distortions, misrepresentations, and outright lies in the bio. (But at least they spell Alex's name right, unlike say, GrooveTech, who have yet to get it right...) The link to the stream on the page doesn't work, use: http://167.160.128.68/streams/orb.ram There only seems to be a 20.4 meg low-quality stream; I can't get VCR to find a higher quality one. If anyone else can, let me/us know. :) Have fun! The last question I have is if this is going to turn up broadcast on the Maritime Live syndicated show...this is probably the best-quality live Orb footage that has shown up in quite a while. I'd die for a tape. ;) Chris (who really needs to get this full show...) np: the cd-r I just burned, of course... :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylon@egenius.org Subject: Re: (orb) Bitching about mp3s and cd's? Read this! Date: 20 May 2001 12:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Actually, this is not true at all. The maximum frequency range on vinyl does not extend up to 22khz. The frequency range of vinyl depends on the maximum width of the groove on the record itself. That is something that is relatively fixed. Also the frequency range of tape depends on the headroom of the heads and the media. The best Cassette tapes do not come close to the frequency range of CD's. Please note the question of Frequency Range - vs- compression is a different matter. However almost NO analogue tape media plays past 22khz. A good open reel tape recorder (also used in the recording industry, mostly in the past mind you) has a frequency range up to 22khz. Most of the open-reel recording media in use today is Digital, and does do 48bit/96khz but recording it to cassette or vinyl does lose frequencies. As always the frequency range of the final product depends on the weakest part of the overall recording system. Take a look at the specifications of your cartridge for your turntable, very few of them even extend to 18khz. You will also find that fewer of them are usuable in a DJ setup on a DJ turntable such as a Technics 1200. They are far too delicate, definitely not good for cueing or scratching. (Yes I know there are DJ's that don't scratch). All of this just to point out that the statement below is false. All of that aside. I own both a DJ quality turntable setup: 2 Technics 1200 turntables with high-end Ortofon cartridges and a RANE mixer. and an Audiophile setup: Linn Sondek, Vahalla and a Linn K-9 cartridge. Let me tell you which one sounds better and has the higher frequency range. Obviously the Linn, but I use the 1200's 1000 times more often then the Linn. jon PS - though it is not the point of the message. The perceptual coding techniques used in mp3 codecs and MD's do are based on averages. The average person can or can't hear this or that. All peoples hearing abilities are not the same so this can be more or less effective for some people. How much it bothers you is also a matter of opinion. > > recording is then pressed on vinyl, no recorded frequencies are lost. (of > > course, recording onto analogue tape makes sure every frequency produced > > by the instruments is recorded...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Bryan" Subject: (orb) andy hughes, anaesthesia Date: 21 May 2001 02:49:48 -0400 anyone have any idea what andy is up to? I remember seeing him listed on angelbooking.com (I think) & hearing that he had done SOME djing but more was coming? but then he never came back this year, or never came thru last year. also, does anyone know which Aneasthesia (on Blue Room records) album he worked on? was it PVC? was it just the dirty hiss track, or was there more? have an urge to hear some andy stuff! hope he is doing well. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC Subject: Re: (orb) andy hughes, anaesthesia Date: 20 May 2001 11:00:55 +0800 >anyone have any idea what andy is up to? > >I remember seeing him listed on angelbooking.com (I think) & hearing >that he had done SOME djing but more was coming? but then he never came >back this year, or never came thru last year. > >also, does anyone know which Aneasthesia (on Blue Room records) album he >worked on? was it PVC? was it just the dirty hiss track, or was there >more? > >have an urge to hear some andy stuff! > >hope he is doing well. >ant > I've had him on the phone like 3 months ago, he was in Liverpool producing the Space Album (the guys who did "The ballad of Tom Jones"). He also wanted to do a tour in USA... Yes, PVC is the album that he co-produced. I dont have it here, but I think he produced more than the Dirty Hiss track. JCFromParis On now : DM - The Dead of Night # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) andy hughes, anaesthesia Date: 21 May 2001 10:46:19 +0100 (BST) JC wrote: > I've had him on the phone like 3 months ago, he was > in Liverpool producing the Space Album (the guys who > did "The ballad of Tom Jones"). i spoke to him after he had finished mixing the album, and he was then going back to liverpool to produce a band called Sizer Barker. since then he's gone quiet on me, which he does from time to time... > Yes, PVC is the album that he co-produced. I dont > have it here, but I think he produced more than the > Dirty Hiss track. he co-wrote 'Global' and then did a remix of 'Dirty Hiss' for the Blue Room released compilation. before he left the orb he was also producing a whole album for Anaesthesia - he played me 6 / 7 tracks a couple of years ago... ...but i have no idea what happened to it - i guess it was shelved, or put on the back burner. oh well, hopefully he'll re-appear on this planet sometime soon, and we'll find out what he's up to next... cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: Re: SV: (orb) Roedelius remix Date: 21 May 2001 15:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Hi, the whole CD contains edits by LX, CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! 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JCFromParis On now : DM - The Dead of Night ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: [Re: (orb) andy hughes, anaesthesia]] Date: 21 May 2001 12:25:22 EDT (breathing a sigh of relief - apparently DM is acceptable music here?) <-= - I meant, over and above the obvious DM-orb connection ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) Bicycles n Tricycles Date: 21 May 2001 09:26:20 -0700 Caught the KUSF.org Orb spotlight yesterday - always nice to hear what other people's favourites are! the dj was mixing mostly old school tracks (Perpetual Dawn, Towers of Dub, etc.) along with Orbus Terrarum stuff. nothing out of the ordinary, but he was a decent dj and i'm always happy to hear the Orb in any context! that said, when the last half hour approached, he started in with more rarities, like the Kiss EP, Higher Than the Sun remix, and some other goodies you don't generally hear. best of all, he ended it with Bicycles and Tricycles, which i had never heard before! what a wonderful track! it was all dubby and smooth, just how i like it! although i will confess that it didn't seem to be as polished or refined as some of the other Cydonia stuff, so i can see why it got droppd. still, here's hoping it will reincarnate in some form in the future! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) The stream I was mentioning... Date: 21 May 2001 10:08:00 -0700 >http://167.160.128.68/streams/orb.ram Folks! This is a very bizarre stream, indeed, but the important thing is that it has the SF version of Perpetual Dawn on it - which is AMAZING!!! seriously, everyone go listen now and be blown away!!! =) rach -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) Last nights experiment Date: 21 May 2001 12:00:03 -0600 went camping with about 10, ate fungi, listened to the dub trees and pomme fritz... > ---- > > Just wondering if anyone had anything out of the ordinary > happen to them > during last nigth's global Orb experiment. Nothing > spectacular happened to > me, but I did get to meet a couple of people in irc and hear a great > streaming shoutcast set by list member Ovation, which was > spectacular to me. > Only four people came to the chat, so the rest of you must > have been either > asleep or having fun elswhere. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Recording your Orb vinyl down to mp3s? Read this! Date: 21 May 2001 09:54:36 -0800 (AKDT) On Sat, 19 May 2001, Tim C wrote: [...] > range of hearing, but sounds IN the range of hearing are affected by > harmonics and such OUT of the range of hearing. With CDs, there is a > brick wall in frequency response - don't recall if it's around 40kHz or > if it stops dead at 20 or 22 or so (but this cutoff does have to do with 22KHz. CD digital audio data is sampled at 44KHz mono, or 22KHz per stereo channel. > sampling rate, which is why DVD audio will in fact sound a lot more like Last I heard DVDA was to be the same as CDDA for backwards compatibility. (Fans of Orgasmo will get a chuckle out of the DVD Audio acronym. :) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Off topic - SF Ae show Date: 21 May 2001 11:25:12 -0400 Speaking of Freaky Chakra, I just caught him and Single Cell Orchestra at a local club last week. There was no better place for them to reunite (they haven't worked together in 2-3 years, and haven't been in Orlando, in almost 5) then the little intimate venue known as "Sapphire Supper Club" ... What a show! Not to mention all the out of towners that came to the show. From as far away as L.A. and the south of France, as well as Tampa & Jax folks. Almost all of them, some how heard about this show and made the trip for this Thursday nite gig. Much more collaboration on all these new original tracks, then the one album they put out in '96 that showcased both their talents. Only two tracks were recognizable: SCO's "I want to Fall" (phat live remix too) and FC's track that uses the sample "The Flashing Lites..." the others were either improvised or are soon to be released on the new SF label: iMix ... : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 21 May 2001 13:27:20 -0500 Saw this on the Juno new releases this week: > READY MADE: Bold (F Communications France) > 12": Funiculaire/Lonely Boy/Eden (F 138W) [6.50] Anyone know if it's Thomas Fehlmann's Ready Made or if someone's recycled the name? It was listed under "Breakbeat, Funk & Hip Hop," for what it's worth... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) breezeblock discog Date: 21 May 2001 15:11:16 -0400 (EDT) I know someone posted this a while back, could someone email it to me? Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: (orb) [ot] Single Cell Orchestra? Date: 21 May 2001 14:44:41 -0700 > Speaking of Freaky Chakra, I just caught him and Single Cell Orchestra at a > local club last week. So whatever happened to him musically? I just know those first two CDs, but from what I hear I guess he works at a local gear store here in SF (Guitar Center) If he still making tunes? More CDs? _jason_ -- Jason Green Apple Computer Inc. iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept. jgreen@apple.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: (orb) [ot] Young American Primitive Date: 21 May 2001 14:57:46 -0700 So whatever happened to him musically? I just know that he made that first legendary old school self titled (and out of print) techno/trance/ambient CDs, but then apparently there was a second album, on Geffen, but it never got released? Or something? Anyone? Is he still making tunes? Collaborating? Anyone? Thanks, _jason_ -- Jason Green Apple Computer Inc. iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept. jgreen@apple.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: Re: (orb) [ot] Young American Primitive Date: 21 May 2001 13:15:13 -1000 he has a great track on an old comp called "California Dreaming." the cd also has early hawke, single cell, and some other good old scool trance. he has also done some remixing. i have a couple of 12"s that he's been on, but dont have them handy to get you the titles. and thats all i have heard about him. g >So whatever happened to him musically? I just know that he made that first >legendary old school self titled (and out of print) techno/trance/ambient >CDs, but then apparently there was a second album, on Geffen, but it never >got released? Or something? Anyone? Is he still making tunes? >Collaborating? Anyone? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: Re: (orb) [ot] Young American Primitive Date: 21 May 2001 13:47:51 -1000 nope...the song Im talking about is "The Reality Of Nature" ALBUM: California Dreaming (compilation) LABEL: FFRR RELEASED 1993 >Is that the Future Rhythms compilation on the Medicine label? Classic old >school trance. Highly recommend it! > >'bette _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) latest groovetech session playlist? Date: 21 May 2001 21:04:14 -0600 does anyone have a playlist for this set or know who does the song with the sampling of the auctioneer? it's about 108 minutes through... I've recorded the stream and broke it down into three sets of mp3's, each will fit on a cd if anyone is interested... jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: Re: (orb) [ot] Young American Primitive Date: 21 May 2001 22:54:11 -0700 I got a 12" by him thats pretty good, "x-file '99" very acidy- trance. And he has a good 12" that i'm search of with a track called "Platform" both came out in '99 i think > he has a great track on an old comp called "California Dreaming." the cd > also has early hawke, single cell, and some other good old scool trance. > > he has also done some remixing. i have a couple of 12"s that he's been on, > but dont have them handy to get you the titles. > > and thats all i have heard about him. > > g > > >So whatever happened to him musically? I just know that he made that first > >legendary old school self titled (and out of print) techno/trance/ambient > >CDs, but then apparently there was a second album, on Geffen, but it never > >got released? Or something? Anyone? Is he still making tunes? > >Collaborating? Anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 09:52:12 +0100 (BST) john wrote: > Saw this on the Juno new releases this week: > > READY MADE: Bold (F Communications France) > > 12": Funiculaire/Lonely Boy/Eden (F 138W) [6.50] > Anyone know if it's Thomas Fehlmann's Ready Made unfortunately not! i saw this yesterday and lept on it, only to discover that it has nothing to do with TF, and that someone else has used the name. it was french house / trip-hop from what i could tell. l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT) What's with this crap. First Spring Heel Jack, then LFO, (Jesus boy bands suck) now Thomas Fehlmann... There should be a law against borrowing names like that. Hard enough to find his stuff as it is... now ya gotta look at the credits... Um sorry for raving. _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: old orb remix on new promo Date: 22 May 2001 11:22:26 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com morning all. picked up a new orb-related promo yesterday. there's a new Suns Of Arqa 'greatest hits / remixes' (sort of) cd out in the UK, which includes the orb remix of 'children of jumma' that was on the 'Tribal Futures' compilation a few months ago... ...anyway, there's a white label promo 12" vinyl doing the rounds to promote the compilation, which will be of interest to the obsessives: Suns Of Arqa - Tomorrow Never Knows 2001 12" vinyl promo; 12ARQWL001 a1. Tomorrow Never Knows - Chicken Lips Remix b1. Tomorrow Never Knows - Chicken Lips Dub b2. CHILDREN OF JUMMA - THE ORB MIX more vinyl news coming soon... ...cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: BAD ORB RELEASES Date: 22 May 2001 11:26:14 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com dear all. still no sign of being able to order via the website, but things ARE happening, as the bad orb vinyl has appeared in a collector's shop in london. i managed to pick up BOB1 and BOB3 yesterday - but no sign of BOB2 as yet. btw, i don't like the colour sleeves. the logo and graphics are MUCH more striking in black and white, IMHO. you all know the tracks from the site audio, so i won't go into detail about them (plus i've only given them a brief listen so far!)... ...anyway, be patient, as they should be available soon...ish. maybe. sort of. as soon as i know any more, i'll let you know. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) PLEASE READ - NEWS ABOUT JC! Date: 22 May 2001 11:43:39 +0100 (BST) 'ello all. sorry to abuse the list with a not-very-related-to-the-orb post, but as a lot of you know JC quite well (or have meet him, for some of us), i thought that this would be of interest to many of you... ...this is just a quick message to send many congratulations / wish good luck to JC and Sophie as they are getting MARRIED this weekend in the south of france!!! i'm sure that everyone that knows them would want to join me in wishing them all the best for the future. anyway, we're going over for a reception / garden party the weekend after this in paris - so you can kill me then for embarassing you JC!!! CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK FOR SATURDAY. cheers, --- Smiley ps. but please stop giving my other half ideas JC! ;-) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 09:36:03 -0400 : Um sorry for raving. =-=> raving is okay in small quantities. as long as you don't bring glow sticks! ;-) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) PLEASE READ - NEWS ABOUT JC! Date: 22 May 2001 09:43:24 -0400 Congrats, JC! "Love is the ultimate outlaw. It just won't adhere to any rules. The most any of us can do is to sign on as its accomplice. Instead of vowing to honor and obey, maybe we should swear to aid and abet. That would mean that security is out of the question. The words 'make' and 'stay' become innapropriate." - Tom Robbins, "Still Life With Woodpecker" : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jena.Pratt@broadwing.com Subject: RE: (orb) [ot] Young American Primitive Date: 22 May 2001 09:13:51 -0500 --->nope...the song Im talking about is "The Reality Of Nature" ALBUM: California Dreaming (compilation) LABEL: FFRR RELEASED 1993 I absolutely *LOVE* this compilation. I actually have the original CD (bought in 94 I think) that is beat all to hell....but it still plays just awesome!! I highly recommend this CD if you can find it. (Glad someone brought it up; now I have to go out to car and bring in to listen to in office....) :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) latest groovetech session playlist? Date: 22 May 2001 11:14:05 -0600 i will to the oaa.... > ---- > > I'd like to check it out. Are you upping it to one of the servers? > > > > > : > : does anyone have a playlist for this set or know who does > the song with > the > : sampling of the auctioneer? it's about 108 minutes through... I've > : recorded the stream and broke it down into three sets of > mp3's, each will > : fit on a cd if anyone is interested... > : > : jeff > : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Badorb- A New Moon Rises. Date: 22 May 2001 21:25:10 +0200 (CEST) Did you all get a message by Garphoo?` All Bob Version will be released,yeah!!! My english is too bad,does it mean all orders will be registered at monday 20th June or by now? How will it work,just in the registration field of the badorb page? CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 22 May 2001 20:32:26 +0100 can someone please either post or mail me a concise list of what is on the 6 cds. tia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) Badorb- A New Moon Rises. Date: 22 May 2001 14:28:23 -0500 > Did you all get a message by Garphoo?` > All Bob Version will be released,yeah!!! > My english is too bad,does it mean all orders will be > registered at monday 20th June or by now? > How will it work,just in the registration field of the > badorb page? I think what it means is that all orders need to be placed by the 20th of june. Meaning that if you want the badorb releases, you need to place your order for them before June 20th, or else there might not be enough left for sale. So what you will need to do, is when the ordering page is up (hopefully next week), place your order for each of the badorb items. (that means you will need to fill the form out again.) I hope that helps, er'... makes sense. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Xmission still eats my messages. Date: 22 May 2001 14:31:01 -0500 I have been sendign several messages to the Orb list, and they never seem to make it.. STILL!!! Once again, they are original messages, and have no quoted text.... does Xmission hate me or something? Also lately all mailing lists I'm on have been screwy in different ways, not just me but to other mebers as well (maybe the internet is hitting a new capacity high! Or mercury is in retrograde again. Or could it be Sunspots?) Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) Badorb- A New Moon Rises. Date: 22 May 2001 13:43:57 -0600 was there another form other than the registration? didn't see anything that would allow me to place an order... > So what you will need to do, is when the ordering page is up > (hopefully next > week), place your order for each of the badorb items. (that > means you will > need to fill the form out again.) > > I hope that helps, er'... makes sense. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) Badorb- A New Moon Rises. Date: 22 May 2001 14:43:46 -0500 > was there another form other than the registration? didn't see anything > that would allow me to place an order... The email said that the order form would be up in about a week... (Moday at the earliest, is what the email said). Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Green Subject: Re: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 22 May 2001 12:45:31 -0700 > can someone please either post or mail me a concise list of what is on > the 6 cds. Even though I don't quite have them in my posession just yet, this is what is on them from what I understand: CD1: Demo's & Remixes: Codpiece - Original Codpiece - Easter Eggs A Crackling Shell Codpiece - Moist Cow vs. Towels of Rub Codpiece - Occidental Codpiece - Kris Needs Mix Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld - Demo A Huge Ever Growing ....... - 60 min. Demo Oobe - Live Mix Oobe - Pool Mix Oobe - Programmed Mix Orbert - Demo version of FFWD Plateau - Main Mix Plateau - No Trash Nurofen Mix Plateau - Trash Solo Post Nurofen Mix Plateau - Ambient Type Mix LX Solo Plateau - All Hands On Deck 2AM Maternal CD2: Live 1991 Brighton Event 27-09-1991 Brixton Fridge 12-05-1991 Cambridge 1991 Portsmouth Poly 18-05-1991 CD3: Live 1992 Brixton Academy 23-10-1992 Date/Venue Unknown - Mission 92 Europe Manchester 01-11-1992 Manchester Academy 30-05-1992 CD4: Live 1993 Birmingham Institute 24-11-1993 Brixton Academy 27-11-1993 Exeter University 23-11-1993 Manchester 16-04-1993 CD5: Live 1993, 1995 Brixton Academy 28-11-1993 Cambridge Corn Exchange 19-11-1993 Leicester University 25-11-1993 Live on MTV 1995 CD6:Live 1994, 1996, 1997 Quart Festival 23-07-1994 Organic Festival 22-06-1996 Boston Avalon 28-07-1997 Glasgow Barrowlands 20-03-1997 Toronto Warehouse 13-05-1997 KLF: Chill Out # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Evans" Subject: Re: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 22 May 2001 20:55:28 +0100 >Even though I don't quite have them in my posession just yet, this is what >is on them from what I understand: [big snip] I've seen mention of this set on one of the FTP sites - but have I missed something recently (wouldn't surprise me:) but are these CD's available to purchase?? If so, where, price etc etc... Cheers in advance Orbscure _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) HUGE SUCCESS - The whole world listened to the Orb & got high. Date: 22 May 2001 16:17:48 EDT We would just like to thank all those who participated in last weekend's event. By all accounts everyone had a great time, although there was nothing out of the ordinary to report. Some reportedly experienced an enhanced musical appreciation, but this could have been physiological, knowing that others were listening to the exact same note, at the same time, all around the globe, (or it could have been the drugs they took). Anyway, a number of you forgot to send your address with your e-mail, so that we can mail you your 2001-Space Orbyssey CD. Let me know. Thanks, and we must all do it again sometime. cheers, bill & co P.S. On Smileys list there was no mention of which particular day the Orb (reunion) would be playing at the Zambian Eclipse (Solipse) event. Have they dropped out? Not sure if I can make it, but that would be good to get a recording. Plus I collected about 500 (unused) black polymer eclipse wiewing glasses, from the last one. I would like to DONATE them to schools in the eclipse area. (Kids are the most likely to suffer permanent) eye damage from this event. Anyone know of anyone reliable I can get in touch with - I don't want any being sold for profit. cheers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) OT- SE Berlin Date: 22 May 2001 13:34:36 -0700 Does anyone know if Sun Electrics' "Barbie Girl" will be a Badorb release, or has it already been released on another label. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chain Reaction" Subject: (orb) Orb live at Dour Festival, Belgium Date: 22 May 2001 22:08:28 +0100 Smiley wrote: > JULY > 5 DOUR FESTIVAL, BELGIUM Yes, I read this too in a Dutch music magazine...any Dutch listies going..?? Steph... -- "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC Subject: Re: (orb) PLEASE READ - NEWS ABOUT JC! Date: 21 May 2001 23:23:31 +0800 > >..this is just a quick message to send many >congratulations / wish good luck to JC and Sophie as >they are getting MARRIED this weekend in the south of >france!!! > Damn Miles, now every female Orb fan knows I'm not available anymore :) About the Ready Made thing : this "group" had released some 12" and albums before, so be careful ! All are from F Communications, the Laurent Garnier label. Nothing to do with Thomas Fehlmann. Did anyone buy the Echoboy 12" with the Fehlmann remix ? Just came out yesterday... Take care all of you, JCFromParis On now : Zoot Woman - Nobody knows (Part two) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike olivera Subject: Re: (orb) PLEASE READ - NEWS ABOUT JC! Date: 22 May 2001 14:31:28 -0700 (PDT) married in the s of france?wow i gotta go,i think there is an OOBE in my pants.congrats JC and Mrs.JC php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CD Rich Subject: Re: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 22 May 2001 17:41:48 -0400 On Tue, 22 May 2001 20:55:28 +0100 "Peter Evans" writes: > I've seen mention of this set on one of the FTP sites - but have > I missed something recently (wouldn't surprise me:) but are these > CD's available to purchase?? If so, where, price etc etc... > > Cheers in advance > > Orbscure The six CDs were distributed via a tree so that people received copies and made two sets for "branches". The suggested price was $15.00 which included Priority Mail shipping within the US. I would be happy to make a set for anyone in the US who is interested - e-mail me privately if you are. Cheers, CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 22 May 2001 15:46:30 -0600 i have them and woule be more than happy to trade the six cdr's for 6 burns of your preference... > > I've seen mention of this set on one of the FTP sites - but have > I missed something recently (wouldn't surprise me:) but are these > CD's available to purchase?? If so, where, price etc etc... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 17:19:54 -0500 I can tolerate the dancing glow sticks to a degree. I'm not sure what the point is with stuffing them in your mouth is though. ?? At least they aren't as bad as the giant rave hats, and annoying whistles of ten years ago. Don't forget the air horns either. So many of my live recordings were ruined by the wanton abuse of air horns. : Um sorry for raving. =-=> raving is okay in small quantities. as long as you don't bring glow sticks! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Evans" Subject: RE: (orb) 6 cd ORB tree Date: 23 May 2001 00:02:14 +0100 Thanks guys 'n' gals for your various replys on the 6 CD tree - much appreciated... regards'n'little fluffy clouds Orbscure _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (orb) Getting off the list. Date: 22 May 2001 18:56:23 -0500 How do I get off the list? I have gotten all of the things from the list that I need and have a few new friends from it. I might get back on the list if the need arises, Over and out. RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Getting off the list Date: 22 May 2001 17:07:23 -0700 ] How do I get off the list? I have gotten all of the things from the list ] that I need and have a few new friends from it. I might get back on the list ] if the need arises, Hell of a way to burn your bridges. Thanks for using us. :/ ] Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ] Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. You might want to read the end of *every* *single* post you've ever received from this list. Oh wait, it's *easier* if someone else does it for you. :P Feh. (Majordomo is getting silly; it is bouncing posts for excessive quoting that would usually make it though...or is it an anti-sarcasm filter?) ;) Chris np: The Beautiful South - One Star Drunken Screw ........................................... ........................................... ........................................... ........................................... ........................................... ........................................... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) guy pratt - spaced? Date: 23 May 2001 08:56:37 +0800 from the episode guide of Spaced, a really cool UK show: 7mins10secs The caption 'Three good Star Wars films later...' was inserted because we were so disappointed with The Phantom Menace. We did not want to align ourselves with Lucas's mega bucks fuck up. Also the Ewok song from the end of the Return Of The Jedi was re-recorded by our composer Guy Pratt and revoiced by Simon Pegg, Nick Frost and Edgar Wright. They were able to do this because Simon recalled the lyrics from childhood. This is not a skill. so guy pratt is doing ewoks now? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 21:43:55 -0800 (AKDT) On Tue, 22 May 2001, Don Gagen wrote: > I can tolerate the dancing glow sticks to a degree. As one who has fairly strong visual persistence (and no, it's not due to drug abuse since I've had it all my life:) I have to admit that I enjoy dancing glowsticks *much* more than bright flashing lights that blind me. One of the treasured moments that sticks out in my mind was at a bluegrass festival when a friend of mine decided to twirl her stick to which she had affixed a few industrial strength glowsticks. I was under the influence at the time and hallucinated that I was completely alone in the world except for the throbbing, warm pulse of the music and these crazily twirling stripes of color imprinting themselves across my retinae. ISTR that I spent quite a while laughing like a little child. Happiest I'd been in a long time. So I'm certainly not against glowsticks, particularly when they're wielded in expert hands... > I'm not sure what the point is with stuffing them in your mouth is > though. ?? That's always confused me. You want to have a glowing thing in your mouth that's typically closed so nobody can see it? Huh? Although I did once see someone who had replaced the barbell piercing in their tongue with something made of flourescent plastic. *That* was cool to watch when they talked. > At least they aren't as bad as the giant rave hats, and > annoying whistles of ten years ago. !!!!!!***AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH***!!!!!! They haven't gone away yet... Every now and then some buffoon will resurrect the fad and make it popular for a while. Ugh. > Don't forget the air horns either. So many of my live recordings were > ruined by the wanton abuse of air horns. IMHO these are worse than the fscking whistles. Anyone with an air horn should be dragged out into the street by a bunch of overmuscled jocks (who always dance by thrusting their groins at the nearest living female carbon-based lifeform, it seems) and stomped on until they get blisters or find a party to crash. I can live with whistles even though I hate them. I CAN'T STAND THOSE AIR HORNS. THEY BELONG IN THE HANDS OF RIOT POLICE AND ON LARGE TRUCKS, NOT IN THE HANDS OF RAVER KIDDIES TWO FEET AWAY FROM MY EAR. Maybe I just don't get it, but isn't part of the point of going to a show to listen to (and maybe even *experience*, gee!) the music? So if you're honking an air horn or screeching a whistle, you're so taken up with your own ability to make noise that you don't notice the music? Foo. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Getting off the list Date: 22 May 2001 22:02:44 -0800 (AKDT) On Tue, 22 May 2001, Chris Johnson wrote: > (Majordomo is getting silly; it is bouncing posts for excessive quoting > that would usually make it though...or is it an anti-sarcasm filter?) ;) """""""Foo." he said." he said." he said." he said." he said." he said." That was six quotes deep. No problem there. Hmm, I don't think the anti-sarcasm filter is working either. :) Maybe you just don't have enough smileys in your post? Smiley never seems to have troubles posting... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 23 May 2001 02:05:36 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 22 May 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > > I'm not sure what the point is with stuffing them in your mouth is > > though. ?? > > That's always confused me. You want to have a glowing thing in your > mouth that's typically closed so nobody can see it? Huh? > > Although I did once see someone who had replaced the barbell piercing > in their tongue with something made of flourescent plastic. *That* > was cool to watch when they talked. seeing crap like this makes me wish that those things were more toxic. i mean, honestly, common sense sez "don't put glowing liquids in your mouth". ...although i have heard semen phosphoreces under blacklight...but i digress... micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Xmission still eats my messages. Date: 22 May 2001 22:07:41 -0800 (AKDT) On Tue, 22 May 2001, Sean Wolfe wrote: > Also lately all mailing lists I'm on have been screwy in different ways, not > just me but to other mebers as well (maybe the internet is hitting a new > capacity high! Or mercury is in retrograde again. Or could it be Sunspots?) IMMINENT DEATH OF THE NET PREDICTED!!!!!! (That might have been to old of a reference for some of you... Oh well, I try.) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Fehlmann...? Date: 22 May 2001 22:14:03 -0800 (AKDT) On Wed, 23 May 2001, laerm wrote: > > On Tue, 22 May 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > > > > I'm not sure what the point is with stuffing them in your mouth is > > > though. ?? > > > > That's always confused me. You want to have a glowing thing in your > > mouth that's typically closed so nobody can see it? Huh? > > > > Although I did once see someone who had replaced the barbell piercing > > in their tongue with something made of flourescent plastic. *That* > > was cool to watch when they talked. > > seeing crap like this makes me wish that those things were more toxic. i > mean, honestly, common sense sez "don't put glowing liquids in your > mouth". Agree. The one chick I mentioned had phosphorescent plastic through her piercing, though. I thought that was okay. As long as you don't swallow it I suppose, although it would be easy to find later... :P > ...although i have heard semen phosphoreces under blacklight...but i > digress... Indeed. Never tried it myself. Hmm. Wish I had some glow-in-the-dark pr0n. Nevermind. I didn't say that. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Updated web presence Date: 23 May 2001 01:06:17 -0800 (AKDT) I've finally bothered to update my personal web area. It can now be found at http://www.unlambda.com/~james Poor Royce gets his funny bits perpetuated unto eternity. :) Whenever I bother to do so I'll set up the old pages on bogomatic to forward to the new ones at UnLambda. But I can't be bothered currently. Any comments or whatever, just email me. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Updated web presence Date: 23 May 2001 01:13:08 -0800 (AKDT) BTW, I promise not to spam like that again. But this is a momentuous occasion for my web crap since it hasn't been updated since 1998 or 1999 or so. And until now has been on a 56k dialup modem (= reeeally slow server) for a few years. There's no particularly specific Orb content there, but watch that space for more in the near future. Most of the funny bits in particular would be interesting to the average Orbfan. Particularly the Weird Band Names, which needs updating. Any suggestions? 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: (orb) Maritime stream... Date: 23 May 2001 18:29:38 +0900 Chris said: >The page can be found at: > >http://www.maritimehall.com/webcast/index.html > >The link to the stream on the page doesn't work, use: > >http://167.160.128.68/streams/orb.ram Hey, thanks for the links, this is really quality video - I just wish there was a larger size file to get some nice video+audio out of it... well it's free so what do I expect. =) Hopefully sometime the Orb will be able to make a cool concert DVD along these lines... - Bobby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunkfux@anti-social.com" Subject: (orb) in space Date: 23 May 2001 02:43:39 -0700 Today I went to see William Anders speak, an Apollo 8 Astronaut. He showed us slides of his mission and explained alot about the space program. I also recieved my Rio volt mp3 player today, and threw in orb cd tree disc 3 or 4 into it as background music, it was perfect. I was really impressed with that thing to, I haven't updated the firmware yet but it played through with no problems. There were some beautifull slides of the earth and moon, and he brought some slides of shots of Jupiter also. And shots of the first manned Saturn V rocket, and his crew inside. blah blah blah. anyways I guess he's a resident of Orcas is. also. After awhile, I knew I had seen this guy somewhere I realize he was the guy on the comittie when I applied for my flight scholarship. He was the one poundin' me with all those questions askin' me what I do for the community, askin me all that personal shit I'm doing with my life. I do alot for the community how I present myself in everyday life, and I do alot to help any person who asks or appears to need it.I wonder if he's the reason I didn't get it, fucking navy prick. I never saw that movie 6 degrees of seperation, but somone told me that its about how between you and 6 other ppl there is somone you know connecting you, so if anyone in here may know this guy don't tell him I said that. Did I mention how great it was watching this slide show of space while listening to that Live 92 disc. Btw what happened to orb.thearchive.org or whatever I got up to disc 4 now it appears the site is down, anyone know what happened or where I can get the other two discs, are they on any of the ftp sites? It's been awhile science I looked at mymail and damn this list fills it beyond belief. I still haven't bought a copy of Cydonia yet, but still enjoy listening to my version 2 mp3's, is it really that much different? Alot of ppl went to that Coachella festival, and I read your accounts, ewhen looking up on it I saw something about an Aphex Twin DJ Set, did he cancel, or did hir forget to mention it? My bro went to the tampa show awhile back and said he had a good rime. anyways its about time i goto bed. reprezenting the Orb in the San Juan Is. Colin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunkfux@anti-social.com" Subject: (orb) in space Date: 23 May 2001 02:57:23 -0700 scheduled? he was supposed to be on Apollo 8, well after the first guys burned up beacause of the foam?oxygen accident. I think he's a little bitter that he didn't walk on the moon. I guys neil was backup for the 8 mission. oh he had an wasome slide of his patch, an 8 with the earth and moon inside... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Blanch" Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb CD Tree... Date: 23 May 2001 11:17:42 -0000 Hey guys, can someone fill me in this orb cd tree stuff? what is it? Lee. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: (orb) OAA Date: 23 May 2001 13:05:38 EDT I apologize ahead of time because I know I have this info at home and I'm sure everyone's tired of the question, but since I'm at work and memory isn't serving, particularly when it comes to rembering to actually write the info down when I AM at home... >sheepishly< What's the address of the Orb Audio Archive? Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 23 May 2001 12:55:27 -0500 (CDT) An Orb related search turned up some recent (and not so recent) releases that I was unaware of. If anyone has one of these, please comment on whether or not they are worth tracking down. Gong - A Sprinkling of Clouds 12": I know System 7 did a remix of this track, and the Orb are on the same Gong CD with a remix of "A PHP's Advice", but they are listed for this 12" as well. Did they also do an ASoC remix? Metal CD Magazine (#11) - What Orb track is on this? Is it a unique remix not released elsewhere? Orbital / Prince / Mike Flowers / Cylob - Chime And 1999 Orb Remixes 12": Don't know much about this except Kris Weston has a remix on it. Is it credited as an Orb remix? Various - Select Cuts From Blood And Fire: This one was a surprise. Has this track ever turned up anywhere else? I'm Alright (Orbing Alright In Dub) (The Orb - Rmx) - 5:08 Sons of Arqa - Govinda's House In The City Of Nine Gates : What track did the Orb remix on this? Various - Space 'n' Bass: Holy SHit! A 12 CD ambient collection for $37?? Anyone have this? Can't say I recognize more than a handful of names on it. Which LFC mix is on here? Various - Sunset Ibiza: This just came out last week. Can't find a listing for it yet. What Orb track is on it? Soundtrack - Forsaken - Videogame soundtrack remixed by Andy Hughes. Any good? Also mentioned is a future release from E.U. featuring the Orb. Anyone have the current E.U. CD? Any good? -- =__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Lead Software Engineer = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com = =_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.execpc.com/~krieg = =_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 23 May 2001 14:05:51 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 23 May 2001, Andrew Krieg wrote: > Orbital / Prince / Mike Flowers / Cylob - Chime And 1999 Orb Remixes > 12": Don't know much about this except Kris Weston has a remix on it. > Is it credited as an Orb remix? no, not orb, orbital. must be a typo. at any rate, as much as i wanted this 12" to be great, it really stank. :P micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 23 May 2001 19:04:17 +0100 Q. Various - Space 'n' Bass: Which LFC mix is on here? A. Dunno. I have the boxset but have never listened to it. I can find out if you wish. Q. Various - Sunset Ibiza: What Orb track is on it? A. LFC. Dunno which mix as I don't really plan on buying the comp. A mate of mine has it so I can find out. re: Mike Flowers/Cylob. I've seen it numerous times, but can't say if it is an Orb remix or not. I would guess that even if it's Kris, it's probably not a legit "orb" remix. BTW You might want to add Darren Emerson's Global Underground live in Uruguay [#15 in the series] to your list if you haven't already. It kicks off with Huge Ever....which was nice ;-) Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 23 May 2001 20:42:10 +0100 > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Andrew Krieg wrote: > > > Orbital / Prince / Mike Flowers / Cylob - Chime And 1999 Orb Remixes > > 12": Don't know much about this except Kris Weston has a remix on it. > > Is it credited as an Orb remix? > > no, not orb, orbital. must be a typo. > > at any rate, as much as i wanted this 12" to be great, it really stank. :P Actually, Kris Weston (aka Thrash) *did* do a remix of Orbital's "Chime" on this 12"/CD-R. The remixes by Thrash are as follows: - KrispDoubleUMix - HairyButterMix (on the AA side). There is also a CD-R of this doing the rounds, but I haven't bothered picking it up yet... l8rs, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC Subject: (orb) Juno Date: 22 May 2001 22:35:20 +0800 Juno Reactor - Masters of The Universe Just in time for the upcoming summer tour, Juno Reactor presents Masters of the Universe. This high energy remix single is sure to get your heart racing and feet moving. The original version appeared on their last explosive album, Shango, and instantly caught on. The Masters of the Universe single turns up the electricity with several explosive mixes of the track from the likes of FRONT 242 and THE ORB member Greg Hunter. Tracklisting: Motu (Juno Radio Version), Motu (Eternal Basement Slowrmx), Motu (Neon Remix), Motu (Eternal Basement Remix), Motu (Front 242 rmx). Released 9th June 2001. CDS =A34.99 Metropolis JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M JH Subject: Re: (orb) latest groovetech session playlist? Date: 23 May 2001 20:38:43 -0700 (PDT) realizing what a daunting if not impossible task it is, i would be interested in playlists for every single set! so much just waiting to be bought...... --- Jeff Stratton wrote: > > does anyone have a playlist for this set or know who > does the song with ... > jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Thank you Paddy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunkfux@anti-social.com" Subject: (orb) Once More vid Date: 23 May 2001 22:25:56 -0700 yeah, but is it as bad as this http://www.ryerse.com/allyoursmurf.htm Colin reprazenting the Orb on Orcas Is. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) Once More vid Date: 24 May 2001 02:13:52 -0500 HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 24 May 2001 10:21:59 +0100 (BST) some of this has already been covered, but anyway... Andrew wrote: > Gong - A Sprinkling of Clouds 12" this is a four-track vinyl with various mixes from the remix album. nothing that's not on the album already. > Metal CD Magazine (#11) - What Orb track is on this? > Is it a unique remix not released elsewhere? absolutely no idea. i would assume that this is a metal band with a similar name or track title - any more details? > Orbital / Prince / Mike Flowers / Cylob - Chime And > 1999 Orb Remixes 12": > Don't know much about this except Kris Weston has a > remix on it. Is it credited as an Orb remix? nope - although they may have mentioned him being ex-Orb, but thrash did two remixes, afair. > Various - Select Cuts From Blood And Fire: This one > was a surprise. Has this track ever turned up > anywhere else? > I'm Alright (Orbing Alright In Dub) nope - it's exclusive to this release. actually, i've been meaning to post about this, as i have a promo cd for this album which is all mixed together, and what's listed as the orb remix is quite different to the one on the commercial release... ...i'm not 100% sure that it is an orb remix, but it does sound orb-ish to me. anyone else have it? > Sons of Arqa - Govinda's House In The City Of Nine > Gates : What track did the Orb remix on this? this is the remix of 'children of jumma' that was on the 'tribal futures' compilation, and is also doing the rounds on a promo 12" too. > Soundtrack - Forsaken - Videogame soundtrack remixed > by Andy Hughes. Any good? yeah - pretty good, afair - haven't played it for ages though... cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) td/orb rubi(y)con revisited CD Evil Ear 001 Date: 24 May 2001 03:11:18 -0700 (PDT) To Thomas "Spear Man" and the orb list, Can somebody, such as Lazlo or Smiley, give a definitive answer on this. The question - Is the Ruby(i)con Revisited (Bootleg) CD by Tangerine Dream actually an Orb Rexix CD? Current Info-- Robin the actor-bloke, finally caught up with himself and gave me the info on the CD he has. The front cover is the same as the one shown on the Tangerine Dream Bootleg site, (mainly red - with a "paint dripped/splash" effect). On the cover it says Rubycon Revisited On the spine it says Rubicon Revisited Inside cover - a black&white picture of an old-style band. On the CD - Letters in red "Evil Ear" CD Catalogue number EVIL001 The CD was given to Robin by a record company rep who stated it was The Orb remixing Tangerine Dream tracks. I've checked Lazlo's discography and there is no mention of it. Thanks to Thomas "Spear Man", I have seen it listed on a Tangerine Dream Bootleg site. Thomas also owns a copy of the CD. I understand there are a few of these CD's floating about on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean. If anyone else can enter the debate and can give a "yes or no" it would be appreciated. Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) td/orb rubi(y)con revisited CD Evil Ear 001 Date: 24 May 2001 11:51:16 +0100 (BST) Paul wrote: > Can somebody, such as Lazlo or Smiley, give a > definitive answer on this. > > The question - Is the Ruby(i)con Revisited > (Bootleg) CD by Tangerine Dream actually an Orb > Rexix CD? my honest answer is no! i really don't know. however, my gut feeling is that this is similar to the alledged 'pink floyd' mixes, but without hearing the cd or having any more information, i really don't know. so, in effect, i'm no sodding help at all. ;-) cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) Re: Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 24 May 2001 09:47:53 -0500 (CDT) >> Orbital / Prince / Mike Flowers / Cylob - Chime And 1999 Orb Remixes >> 12": Don't know much about this except Kris Weston has a remix on it. >> Is it credited as an Orb remix? > no, not orb, orbital. must be a typo. > at any rate, as much as i wanted this 12" to be great, it really stank. > :P This is really titled "Mike Flowers Vs Cylob: 1999 / Chime Mixes". The Orb tie is this: "On the flip Orbital's club classic Chime goes interstellar with some 'vocodor driven space funk' courtesy of Kris 'Thrash' Weston ex of the Orb". I see that Nick King and Anthony Bryan discussed this release on this list back in 1999! They didn't say if it was any good or not though. So you say thumbs down? -- =__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Lead Software Engineer = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com = =_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.execpc.com/~krieg = =_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) Gong 12" Date: 24 May 2001 09:50:57 -0500 (CDT) > Gong - A Sprinkling of Clouds 12": I know System 7 did a remix of this > track, and the Orb are on the same Gong CD with a remix of "A PHP's > Advice", but they are listed for this 12" as well. Did they also do > an ASoC remix? Just verified this 12" contains the PHP remix from the CD. Nothing new. -- =__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Lead Software Engineer = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com = =_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.execpc.com/~krieg = =_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TheEye" Subject: (orb) ITS HERE! Date: 24 May 2001 11:01:48 -0400 Finally for my made in Japan Cydonia with the BONUS track! Wheeehew! Only cost me 3x as much as the US release. but glad to have it! Anyway. I hear all this talk in the group of FTP sites and Orb music available for download, but so far I have only ever run across one real FTP address. I am getting frustrated. I have everything I could possible collect/afford to collect by the Orb and want the rarities and stuff only found currently in MP3 formats. Is there a site that has consolidated this music, checked it for quality and has it available to the average Orbster?! I am very interested. I would even be willing to do this myself given enough input!!! I have HD space, I have servers out my butt and I am about to have 2 T1's hooked to all this stuff. Any suggestions?! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: Re: (orb) td/orb rubi(y)con revisited CD Evil Ear 001 Date: 24 May 2001 16:30:33 >The question - Is the Ruby(i)con Revisited (Bootleg) CD by Tangerine Dream >actually an Orb Rexix CD? Well it would certainly explain TD's pre-mandarin cream mix ties to LX. >The front cover is the same as the one shown on the Tangerine Dream Bootleg >site, (mainly red - with a "paint dripped/splash" effect). It's more or less one fourth of the aqua-colored Rubycon tangerine dream album colour--only in red for the revisited disc. --spearman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) ITS HERE! Date: 24 May 2001 09:31:00 -0700 These are the sites I know of (mine is the first one). If you or anyone is serious about setting up a true mirror of my site, please contact me directly. *MoonDogg*'s FTP 24.1.153.3 User Name: orb Password: orb Ant's FTP moresounds.dyn.dhs.org User Name: anonymous Password: your email These 2 don't seem to be up any more. Anyone have details about them? or perhaps I have incorrect info? Steph's FTP 137.224.147.130 User Name: orb Password: orb Gemini Killer 142.59.244.226 User Name: mp3 Password: mp3 *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- ..... Anyway. I hear all this talk in the group of FTP sites and Orb music available for download, but so far I have only ever run across one real FTP address. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) ITS HERE! Date: 24 May 2001 13:55:29 EDT that was my buddies ftp site but he doesnt runn it anymore. he has a new one up. come on irc.dal.net into #ambient and look for petack its his ftp, he got a huge load of stuff on it now. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Thu, 24 May 2001 12:32:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "*MoonDogg*" writes: << These 2 don't seem to be up any more. Anyone have details about them? or perhaps I have incorrect info? Gemini Killer 142.59.244.226 User Name: mp3 Password: mp3 *MoonDogg* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Last nights experiment Date: 24 May 2001 14:01:41 EDT well thank you. i do have my shoutcast up really late alot of the time. that nite it was me and my buddy mixing some orbular tunes and smoking the green ganj. i left for new orleans the nextday and just got back yesterday. crazy city. www.nativelight.com/tv 24.21.165.240:8000 DJ TeleVision In a message dated Sat, 19 May 2001 1:29:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Martin Wallace writes: << Just wondering if anyone had anything out of the ordinary happen to them during last nigth's global Orb experiment. Nothing spectacular happened to me, but I did get to meet a couple of people in irc and hear a great streaming shoutcast set by list member Ovation, which was spectacular to me. Only four people came to the chat, so the rest of you must have been either asleep or having fun elswhere. Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Baker Subject: (orb) LX in London Date: 24 May 2001 14:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Anyone going to see his set tonight? _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 25 May 2001 09:45:10 +0800 like micah, i kept seeing this, listening and then having to put it back in disgust and wonder... it just didn't seem to make any sense.... and I couldn't really hear what it had to do with chime? >This is really titled "Mike Flowers Vs Cylob: 1999 / Chime Mixes". The >Orb tie is this: "On the flip Orbital's club classic Chime goes >interstellar with some 'vocodor driven space funk' courtesy of Kris >'Thrash' Weston ex of the Orb". > >I see that Nick King and Anthony Bryan discussed this release on this >list back in 1999! They didn't say if it was any good or not though. So >you say thumbs down? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) test Date: 25 May 2001 00:40:58 -0700 (PDT) What the hell? is any of the list's mail getting through? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) wow Date: 25 May 2001 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) After all the days and weeks of huge traffic, it would appear that the orb mailing list has finally kicked it! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dub hifi" Subject: (orb) Lx In Vancouver ! Date: 25 May 2001 11:12:23 -0700 Just picked up a flyer for Limes 1 year anniversary at the Wettbar on Thursday May 31 in Vancouver, with guest Dr Alex Paterson ! Sweet ! cya all there dubhifi In association with Aphex Start at http://www.aphextwin.org ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 25 May 2001 20:19:50 +0100 > >I see that Nick King and Anthony Bryan discussed this release on this > >list back in 1999! They didn't say if it was any good or not though. So > >you say thumbs down? Mee Too! It's absolute shite, I bought it because of the Orbital connection which upon playing it I found it had none! PHIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: (orb) "Icons of the Orb" question Date: 25 May 2001 09:22:13 -1000 hi all, i just recently received a cdr in a trade of "Icons of the Orb" and upon listening to it there seems to be to pops that sound like record pops/scratches (as if the recording was taken from vinyl and the pops/scratches never removed). One is during the first song (pato banton) around the 4 minute mark. The other is during track 6 (fast forward the future) around the 2 minute mark. what i am wondering is if these pops are from the actual record recordings and are therefore also on the original silver cd bottlegs, or if these pops were introduced during extraction and re-burning. if anyone out there with the original silver cd could let me know i would be most gracious. thx. greg _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Chilkoot Charlie flashback. Date: 25 May 2001 15:42:04 EDT Sorry non-orb related, but James in Anchorage: you recently mentioned "Chilkoot Charlie's" bar. Do they still use the wonderful slogan (painted on the wall outside): "We rob the other guy and pass the savings on to you"? Love it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Chilkoot Charlie flashback. Date: 25 May 2001 11:57:05 -0800 (AKDT) On Fri, 25 May 2001 Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > Sorry non-orb related, but James in Anchorage: you recently mentioned > "Chilkoot Charlie's" bar. Do they still use the wonderful slogan > (painted on the wall outside): "We rob the other guy and pass the > savings on to you"? Love it. Still there. They took over the adjoining half of the building and turned it into a "swing bar". The log-cabin look has been redone as well, some random artist did some nice things with chaotically tiled wood on the outside. The place looks nice, but it's still the same old meat market. I think Playboy rated it one of the best bars in the US, apparently. 'Best Bar' may include getting laid by someone with little scruples afterward, given that this was the opinion of Playboy. Eben, did you tell me this? The words that came to me on trying to describe 'Koots' once were "The highest class hole-in-the-wall dive bar there is." They still have all the local heavy metal cover bands playing there, too. Can't stand the place, but if you're trying to get as drunk as possible in the middle of a jostling crowd of random humans on your 21st birthday I suppose it's worth the trip. You might even make new friends when you puke down some girl's shirt and she takes off her bra and throws it at you, or tries to strangle you with it. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TheEye" Subject: FW: (orb) ITS HERE! Date: 25 May 2001 15:58:44 -0400 OK! This is Great. It sounds as if we have a small conglomerate of sites where rare and interesting Orb is available. I own the domain name 'mp3gravity.com' and would like to start a website specifically for tracking this sort of thing. Finding the odd and unusual and making sure it is the best copy around. I have lots of room and my bandwidth isn't to bad. Just might need some help as my time is limited. I was thinking about using 'orb.mp3gravity.com' as the central domain with ftp access to it. It is going to take me a few weeks to get it setup, but it is coming. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "decay" Subject: (orb) Cydonia version differences Date: 25 May 2001 16:06:42 -0400 Are there different mixes of the songs between the versions? Or are there just track changes? Thanks Regis http://www.hardacid.com/music/orb (still under construction) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*christine *" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia version differences Date: 25 May 2001 13:19:57 -0700 BOTH :-) vs. 1.0 released on Napster....tracks than redone/mixed for LP Cydonia 2.0 vs. of Cydonia are all the songs remixed..... *c* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) speaking of different Cydonia versions... Date: 25 May 2001 15:28:45 -0500 Putting aside the v1.0 and v2.0 "preliminary" versions, I have both the "released" US version and the UK version that includes "EDM." Is there any reason for me to get the Japanese version? I seem to remember talk about there being *two* bonus tracks on the Japanese version, but I don't know whether this was ever confirmed, or whether the extra track (besides, presumably, "EDM") was anything but a "Once More" remix or whatever... anyone? Remember, I'm only talking about the *released* versions, not about v1.0 or v2.0. Thanks. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TheEye" Subject: RE: (orb) speaking of different Cydonia versions... Date: 25 May 2001 16:34:00 -0400 I ordered the 'Japanese' version off of CDNow.com. Was like $40 w/ shipping and all. It only has 1 extra track, EDM. It has the Japanese insert on the outside of the case (small piece of cardboard w/ song titles in Japanese) and a insert inside the jacket. I have 'heard' of a 2 extra track edition, but I haven't seen it either. My girlfriend was looking for a b-day gift for me and said she ran across it. I will try to find out where she saw it. Putting aside the v1.0 and v2.0 "preliminary" versions, I have both the "released" US version and the UK version that includes "EDM." Is there any reason for me to get the Japanese version? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia version differences Date: 25 May 2001 17:24:31 -0400 Let's see: (for Cydonia v1.0 tracks that survived the transition, i.e., no Freely Wheely, Ralf, or Yungle) Once More: subtle mixing differences. The version on the commercial release is a bit shorter. Promis: pretty much the same, as is Ghost Dancing. Turn it Down--No differences A Mile Long Lump of Lard--big differences. The v1.0 version has the rhythm track sounding consistently loud and chunky throughout, while the commercial release changes the sound a lot, sometimes dropping the drum track out entirely, filtering it, etc. Terminus--no differences that I noticed. Hope this helps, Justin > From: "decay" > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:06:42 -0400 > To: > Subject: (orb) Cydonia version differences > > > Are there different mixes of the songs between the versions? > Or are there just track changes? > > Thanks > Regis > http://www.hardacid.com/music/orb (still under construction) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia version differences Date: 25 May 2001 14:36:45 -0700 > > Are there different mixes of the songs between the versions? > > Or are there just track changes? > BOTH :-) > > vs. 1.0 released on Napster....tracks than redone/mixed for > LP Cydonia > 2.0 vs. of Cydonia are all the songs remixed..... That isn't strictly true. There were at least 4 pre-release versions of Cydonia (in order): The original 2CD promo, with longer, rougher versions of the tracks (I'd kill for CD-Rs of this, BTW) ;) Cydonia Version 1 (the version most of us have; the one on the FTPs) Cydonia Version 2 (the main difference being swapping JoYH for Freely Wheely; the other tracks are still the same length. While I haven't done a detailed comparison, I don't believe there are mix differences between this and Version 1; if there are differences, they would probably be minor, knob-twiddling sorts of things) Cydonia (the final promo version; identical to the US and European commercial release--it lacks EDM) There may well be other versions of Cydonia, but they would have been internal promos or artist "proofs", produced in extremely small numbers. (The 2CD version is probably such a beast; the other 3 versions were produced in fairly large numbers.) Chris (who'd really, really like to trade for the 2CD version of Cydonia, now that the finished product is finally out...I have lots to trade, including originals of some rare Orb goodies...like the Aubrey Mixes, Orbscure Trax, etc...) np: Talking Heads - Live 8/3/83 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Baker Subject: (orb) Alex's DJ set in London. Date: 25 May 2001 18:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Last night LX had a DJ set at the Lush nighclub in London... I had never been there before, but it was a pretty neat place. He started off with the phone call at the beginning of Towers of Dub, then into LFC, I think it was the Danny Tengalia Detour Mix, but I am not 100% sure on that. The place was pretty full now, so my friend and I enjoyed some quality drugs and then went to this red room and sat in some big wicker chairs. I felt quite messed up while the good doctor mixed familiar Orby samples (begginning of Blue Room, 'Well get on it, it's your turn', a couple bits I recognized from Mile Long Lump of Lard & Chill Out, etc.) into some housey house music. Then he played some more Orb stuff, A Huge Pulsating Brain, which was mixed into the beginning of Smack my Bitch Up, then some Massive Attack, I think. Good stuff. The red room we were in lead up to the DJ booth thing, so we ventured up there and stood next to him while he played more housey stuff. My friend tried to bum a cigarette off the resident DJ guy and I greeted and left-handedly shook Alex's hand. He played another Orb song, Once More, stopped it, and started to spin it fast before letting it play again at normal speed. Then some more non-Orb housey stuff, before he left to the washroom and the resident DJ guy took over. I guess he was on for about 2 or 2 1/2 hours. So yeah, all in all it was pretty good, he was in a good mood, and the music was great stuff at times (although I would have liked to hear more Orb stuff, of course). And no one in the crowd had any glowsticks, either. I was the scrawny high kid in the blue Orb shirt, if anyone else on the list was there... _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) real audio conversion Date: 25 May 2001 15:33:10 -0700 Hey There! Can one of you audiophiles give me a hint about converting .ram files to, well, anything else? (I'm a Mac girl, BTW) many thanks! =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) real audio conversion Date: 25 May 2001 15:46:58 -0700 "-> rachel" wrote: > > Hey There! > > Can one of you audiophiles give me a hint about converting .ram files to, > well, anything else? (I'm a Mac girl, BTW) AFAIK, you're scrawed. :P For Windows, there is StreamBox Ripper (which while officially unavailable, can be found on the net), but I don't know of anything for the Mac. Ripper might run under one of the Mac's Windows emulation thingys, though. RealLabs are extremely protective of their codec; AFAIK, at this point, there is *no* commercial product that will convert RA files into another format, except possibly RealLabs' professional (i.e. expensive) product. (There are lots of programs that will generate RA files, though.) Speaking of RA files, the 5/17 Groovetech set is up. Chris (who now has 27 CDs worth of Teatime...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Majordomo question Date: 25 May 2001 19:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Does majordomo not allow mail over a certain size? I've posted my review of the 4/14 gig 3 times, not once did it go to the list. Why!?!?!? Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylon@egenius.org Subject: (orb) mail not getting to the list Date: 25 May 2001 22:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Actually I have that problem as well. I sent a reply about vinyl vs CD vs MP3, and it did not get through. Aside from the size of the mail (mine was not too long), and amount of quoted text (mine contained one quoted line), I can think of one other possible thing. Does the xmissions list server mailer do a reverse name lookup on the domain the mail is being posted from? As in the following: Mail arrives from babylon@egenius.org server does a lookup on egenius.org and receives the answer: 208.9.2.13 server does a lookup on 208.9.2.13 and received the answer: egenius.org server accepts the mail and forwards it to the list. This may cause problems if reverse DNS is not configured correctly. Currently my upstream ISP has broken the delegation for my reverse DNS. babylon@egenius.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylon@egenius.org Subject: Re: (orb) mail not getting to the list Date: 25 May 2001 22:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Well damn that one got through. Did anyone see my old one on vinyl vs CD, etc. ? babylon@egenius.org > Actually I have that problem as well. I sent a reply about vinyl vs CD vs # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) Majordomo question Date: 25 May 2001 21:35:35 -0500 > Does majordomo not allow mail over a certain size? > I've posted my review of the 4/14 gig 3 times, not > once did it go to the list. Why!?!?!? > Gavin Here is what I have concluded, and possibly it might apply to the rest of you who are having this same problem. Whenever I post from home it goes through just fine, but when I post from my office, which is a different email address, the message doesn't go through. I don't even get a bounce. The message simply vanishes. I believe that it is because my office email address is not registered as being on the list (so it gets rejected by majordomo some how), but my home address is registered (so anything i send from here goes along ok). I've seen some very long posts on this list that obviously were not rejected. (to Gavin) Was this post longer than the one you left after returning from your US tour? That was a very long post and we all got it. Hope this helps... -- Martin Please visit my homepage to see my work and some interesting links. http://home1.gte.net/amorph13/portfolio/main.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) mail not getting to the list Date: 25 May 2001 21:39:10 -0500 > Actually I have that problem as well. I sent a reply about vinyl vs CD vs > MP3, and it did not get through. Aside from the size of the mail (mine was > not too long), and amount of quoted text (mine contained one quoted line), I > can think of one other possible thing. As for this, I have never been able to send ANY quoted text. If I just quote one line, it bounces. I have to cut and paste the part that i want to quote into a new message for it to go through. -- Martin Please visit my homepage to see my work and some interesting links. http://home1.gte.net/amorph13/portfolio/main.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) rubicon revisted correction/.ra conversion Date: 26 May 2001 04:38:20 >>The front cover is the same as the one shown on the Tangerine Dream >>Bootleg site, (mainly red - with a "paint dripped/splash" effect).<< >It's more or less one fourth of the aqua-colored Rubycon tangerine dream album colour--only in red for the revisited disc.< er, of course I meant 'cover' not 'colour' >Can one of you audiophiles give me a hint about converting .ram files to, >well, anything else? (I'm a Mac girl, BTW) Hmm, well I used my soundcard and sent the signal to some outboard optical audio gear and then back to my HD. Then did some EQ work on it, boosted the signal and burned a CDR. Took quite alot of time, but worth it. Actually, I did more than that as I thought the EQ'd version sucked, I lost patience and went with the original mix (boomy just like maritime hall that night), boosted the signal and burned a disc. I still have the EQ'd version and when I have some time I may remove the extraneous hiss or just reEQ the original and try again. And the audio feed from the webcast largely rolls off at about 8000 Hz if anyone cares. I suspect that doesn't help much. --spearman "it took hours and hours and hours and hours and after I was done with it I was so involved I didn't know what to think"--King Crimson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) good news (maybe) Date: 26 May 2001 00:57:20 -0500 BadOrb.com isn't coming up tonight. I hope that this means that the site is being upadated and that sales will start tomorrow! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: Re: (orb) "Icons of the Orb" question Date: 26 May 2001 09:48:55 +0100 dirk dogood wrote: > One is during the first song (pato banton) around the 4 minute mark. My silver cd bootleg 'pops' once at 4:43 cant say Ive noticed any 'vinyl' crackling though, then again my hifi is a bit old now :-/ > The other is during track 6 (fast forward the future) around the 2 > minute mark. The first 5 seconds are aweful! Ive never noticed before. Theres no actual music playing but it is like a vinyl lead-in. Like song 1 this song has a pop at about 1:51 I didnt listen any further. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: (orb) Samplespotting. Date: 26 May 2001 10:27:11 +0100 I doubt if this qualifies for Orb. I was playing Dr Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise to a mate the other day and he seemed very confident that 30 seconds into track 7 (Industrial Suicide Tribe - Aqua Sufi) is actually, Jean Michel Jarre - Waiting For Coustou' (the piano bit). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) Samplespotting. Date: 26 May 2001 12:10:23 +0200 I doubt if this qualifies for Orb. I was playing Dr Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise to a mate the other day and he seemed very confident that 30 seconds into track 7 (Industrial Suicide Tribe - Aqua Sufi) is actually, Jean Michel Jarre - Waiting For Coustou' (the piano bit). Hi Kayle, and all! No doubt, It's from JMJ - Waiting For Coustou, great track by the way. My Brother is a JMJ fanatic! =) Dwb. www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (orb) Tea time sessions Date: 26 May 2001 14:38:12 +0100 Can anyone give me full details of these. How may were done , where did they originate from etc. Regards Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) Tea time sessions Date: 26 May 2001 16:54:31 +0200 Can anyone give me full details of these. How may were done , where did they originate from etc. Regards Mark Hi, if I know my history it started in India, not sure about that. And th= e English explores started to drink tea, fore the calm affect that especial= ly Green tea gives, a real kick no sugar no milk very meditative try and see for your self, I have a black belt in Kick down Tae Kwon Do and, Aikido I was 6 months from getting my HAKAMA! Well that=92s enough about me traini= ng. The ancient Japan introduced the real tea ceremonies, and somehow the Europeans adopted the tea thingy and proclaimed it theirs. Well I don=92t= know all the facts but please fill in if you have more info on this. Off to put a kettle on! =3D) Cheers, Dwb. www.uf.orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: SV: (orb) Samplespotting. Date: 26 May 2001 10:29:44 -0700 > I was playing Dr Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise to a mate the > other day and he seemed very confident that 30 seconds into track 7 > (Industrial Suicide Tribe - Aqua Sufi) is actually, Jean Michel Jarre - > Waiting For Coustou' (the piano bit). > No doubt, It's from JMJ - Waiting For Coustou, great track by the way. My > Brother is a JMJ fanatic! This actually brings up a point I was curious about. Just how much of this cd is the original songs as they sound on their own releases, and how much of it is remixed, processed, or otherwise mutated? Obviously some of the samples are added on (esp the familiar Orb ones), but are the original artists doing any of the speech samples and such? I'm really enjoying exposure to a variety of stuff I haven't heard (nice thing about mix cds by good djs) but before I haul off and start exploring more material by the other artists, I'd like to have some idea how much of it is this good originally vs. how much it may have been tweaked - so hopefully the answer is "minimally." T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chain Reaction" Subject: (orb) ITS STILL HERE! Date: 26 May 2001 19:17:07 +0100 Music Friends! Moondogg wrote: > These 2 don't seem to be up any more. Anyone have details about them? or perhaps I have incorrect info? > Steph's FTP > 137.224.147.130 > User Name: orb > Password: orb I can assure you that this one is still up and running..access time is however limited to working hours in Holland (09:00am - 06:00pm). For what it's worth, the time in Holland is GMT +1h... Hope this helps, and enjoy! Later all, Steph... -- "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) mail lost in space Date: 27 May 2001 02:29:28 -0700 (PDT) The first review was 15k, the second was 16k. I posted it 6 times now, and none of them got through. No message from majordomo telling me that it couldn't get through either! Where do the messages end up then? Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: SV: (orb) Samplespotting. - resend Date: 27 May 2001 10:15:40 -0700 > I was playing Dr Alex Paterson's Voyage Into Paradise to a mate the > other day and he seemed very confident that 30 seconds into track 7 > (Industrial Suicide Tribe - Aqua Sufi) is actually, Jean Michel Jarre - > Waiting For Coustou' (the piano bit). > No doubt, It's from JMJ - Waiting For Coustou, great track by the way. My > Brother is a JMJ fanatic! This actually brings up a point I was curious about. Just how much of this cd is the original songs as they sound on their own releases, and how much of it is remixed, processed, or otherwise mutated? Obviously some of the samples are added on (esp the familiar Orb ones), but are the original artists doing any of the speech samples and such? I'm really enjoying exposure to a variety of stuff I haven't heard (nice thing about mix cds by good djs) but before I haul off and start exploring more material by the other artists, I'd like to have some idea how much of it is this good originally vs. how much it may have been tweaked - so hopefully the answer is "minimally." T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: (orb) test - no actual msg text Date: 27 May 2001 10:16:14 -0700 Test # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) LX in vancouver Date: 27 May 2001 14:16:46 -0700 > > Just picked up a flyer for Limes 1 year anniversary at the Wettbar on > Thursday May 31 in Vancouver, with guest Dr Alex Paterson ! Sweet ! > cya all there > dubhifi > I bought my ticket yesterday- I do think it's odd that I haven't heard a thing about this until I saw a poster (a real paper one- not the net type one) on Thursday- but whatever- because IT KICKS ASS!!! __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Badorb-A new moon Date: 28 May 2001 16:10:21 +0200 (CEST) Hi folks, Did anyone had luck ordering that BOB stuff, I hadn``t any so far, seems to be the next monday perhaps..... CY, Christoph P.S.We should discuss how to mix that stuff from the badorb label,could be interesting perhaps... __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Gavin's 4/14 Masquerade, Atlanta review pt. 1 Date: 28 May 2001 23:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Ok, this pisses me off. I now have no answers but figure that I'll try sending it to the list in 2 separate posts. Nonetheless, I'm planning on making a website displaying pictures and reviews from my tour. Well here's part 1, enjoy! Gavin 4/14 Saturday, show 3 of 13 I wake up around Noon time in Sarasota at a frind of my dad's house. The last time I was here I was 10 years old! I stay for a bowl of cereal and conversation updating him on my family and the trip I am on. I stay as long as possible and end up hitting the road for Atlanta around 1:50. Thanks to Orb listee Jo Hannah, my gas tank is full and lasts me 450 miles into some podunk service stop along I-75 where fuel is their secondary product, almonds being their first. I stop inside to pay and see what they have to offer - lots of sweets but no real food. the clerk's accent is so thick that I can barely understand her questioning which pump it was I used. After I pay for my gas, I move my car to an out-of-the-way spot and update my journal. As I write this I witness some lady at a pump dump water onto the engine of her van, emitting a giant cloud of steam and grabbing everybody's attention, and a chuckle from me. I head back onto the road and make it to the Masquerade around 9:20. After finding a real nice parking space, I grab my camera and walk to the outside of the club and snap a photo of the marquee. Fearing the massive warnings written all over the outside "ABSOLUTELY NO CAMERAS" I decide to play it safe and put it back in my car. I get to the front gate of this converted 19th century factory painted all black and notice no line whatsoever, and fear the turnout will be low tonight. I present the bouncer my ID and collect my 3rd bracelet of the tour and head upstairs to "Heaven", the room where the show is taking place. upon my entry, I notice pool tables on my left and the stage on my right, barely visible through the dense fog. Prayerbox is currently on stage, so I know the show just started. There appears to be about 50 people in attendance, most socializing with each other, some checking out the merchandise stand, and the remainder in the billiards/bar area. I head to the bathroom to wire up my rig. After the rediculously long hike, I make it back and find a spot in the dead center of the quadrophonic setup, clutching the "Race For The Turtles" t-shirt that Jo Hannah tried to give LX in Tampa. Prayerbox is done and I can't see anybody on stage, partially due to the combination of fog and their blinding light setup directed into the crowd at eye level. People continue to trickle in and I keep my eyes peeled to appear friendly hoping that some fellow Orb listees will spot me. As some of the smoke clears, I can see that the stage has a particularly low clearence - so low that the giant Orb is obstructed by Simon's bass stack. I notice that there is a DJ on stage spinning a mellow set of Jamaican dub tunes, but he's nobody I recognize from the Orb crew, nor does he really dj with style or personality. After 20 minutes or so, Orb listee Jena Pratt is leaning against the barrier in front of the stage, turns around and notices me immediately. She comes upto me and introduces herself and her husband and tells me that they flew in from Austin. I tell them about the first two shows and how I anticipate this one being better yet. Autolump walks onstage, finally revealing their identity by the white DiY look of Fil's "Autolump" t-shirt. LX takes position on the left of the turntable setup spinning records and Fill on the immediate right is twisting knobs and pushing buttons. I look around the crowd and notice that there is no noticeable presence of security, much unlike the Masquerade in Tampa which was patroled heavily. I do notice a guy with black dreadlocks looking my direction, but carry on with my taping. Autolump finishes after a 35 minute set, the now 300 populous gives them a warm cheer as they walked off stage. LX comes back on and spins a few records, some Bad Orb stuff, some found on the Breezeblock set curently doing the rounds. He dissapears after 5 or so songs, to be replaced by Witchman. Most noticeably, tonight's the first show of the tour that Witchman has visuals to accompany his live set, which used to be nothing more than BadOrb.com's inages. The crowd seems to be 500 strong now, and as I'm recording, the dreadlocked guy approaches me and says "So you like the Orb enough to follow them around?" I ask him which list he's signed upto, and as it turns out, none. "I recognized you from the Boynton show. I live in Jacksonville, so I'm equally as far from both shows" He identifys himself as Ricky, and I tell him about my journey across the USA following the Orb. He then introduces me to his friend Darrin. Shortly after, another guy approaches me and says "So is this the best spot to hear the quadrophonic setup?" I give him a nod, and he stands in front of me, talking with a friend of his. He then turns around and asks me "By chance are you taping this show? What equipent are you using?" I show him my D-8 and he then reveals his M-1 to me. He starts to talk about mics and then realises that I'm TAPING and then apologises, gets quiet and turns around. Witchman's set sounds the same as the previous two, but the fidelity and volume of the Masquerade make it stand out. As Witchman ends his 45 minute set, the continually growing crowd cheers respectably then returns to conversation mode. The fellow taper approaches me and I stop rolling tape, tells me his name is Kevin and has never seen the Orb before and is interested in taping something different. We talk about prior shows taped, I tell him what to expect from the Orb, and talk about mics. I switch tapes in preperation for the Orb, and notice that I accidentally grabbed 90 meter tapes instead of 60's - and worry about my recordings not turning out due to the 90's poor track record with my deck. My worry about a low turnout apparently was unfounded, for it appears that the room is near capacity. During the pause Fil walks out onto stage and checks the gear again, then sets out towels. I tell Kevin that the Orb wil be out shortly and that I'd prefer to carry on the conversation afterwords. As I get setup in the spot that I felt would be good, luck would have it that a group of late teen gabby mouthed girls end up meeting a group of guys just to my left. I try to move as far forward and right as I can, hoping that somebody will stand between them and me. I check my clock and notice that it's 12:40, eager for the Orb to come on stage. Fil comes out and crouches by his post, and shortly after the rest of the guys do and are greeted with a loud roar. to my left a flashing red light catches my eye - some guy brought in a bike safety light and clipped it to the bill of his hat so that it flashes in his eyes.(?) At least this time it's not glow sticks... The house music dies down, and the little kid voice sample is echoing about as the intro music starts. "Mommy dont!" The rooster call is made and the crowd cheers again. Tonights intro music is dabbled heavily by old school Orb samples, and then followed by "The End" from the Apocalypse Now soundtrack. As the helicoptor sound spins around the room at high volume, A Mile Long Lump Of Lard starts. At the same time 2 teenage boys passing in front of me decide to stop and carry on a conversation. I forcefully look at them and tell them that they have to move. They look back and give me a dumbfounfded look, but move away quickly as my stare turns angry. The voice sample "You can feel the flash" plays out even louder yet, causing Witchman to flinch and look at LX with a smirk. The once dark and smokey room is now blindingly bright and smokey as the Orb get the show rolling. Witchy stops the mix abruptly at the end, but the voie sample continues to play on a few times, and then ends to a positive crowd reaction. LX segues to Promis with some minimalistic ambient sounds. Promis has the string section mixed in at low volume, and the rhythm to the track is very pronounced. Witchy's mixing on the track takes the rhythm out, then LX spins one of his own in its place as if they're dueling it out. More ambient sounds make the segue to Turn It Down, and Simon takes over the mixer from Witchman. LX continues to pummel the crowd with unidentifiable samples altered through the chaos pad as Simon carrys on with his own thing. Patrick mixes the non rhythm sounds to and from all corners of the room, and the rhythm tracks are stationary and very loud in the mix. Blue room begins with samples from the movie "Dark Star" and carrys on several minutes in the track. The voice sample "Ah wah wah ah wah" is both being played from the mix and LX DJing in the Mad Professor original, and gets a cheer from the crowd. The mix sounds good, but slightly off in its delivery. Witchy cuts out all the sounds except the high hat and LX plays a chorous from the record, which is reverbed out heavily. "Give into the creator..." Simon bobs his head in rhythm and either plays or stops the bassline at the nod of Witchy. 2001 samples overlap the last 2 minutes of Blue Room and carry on with a bunch of stray samples from the full length version. The sound of sonar sampled from a submarine make the bridge into Perpetual Dawn, which gets a lot of overlaping voices from South Park. "Dude! That was cool!" The trademark laugh gets manipulated through the quadrophonic setup followed by the monk chant that sounds like its straight from the heavens by its all encompassing sound and volume. The track sounds as if its about to end with a loud scream as witchy peels it back 1 layer at a time, only to dive back in with everything, then stripping it back down to nothing but the laugh as it ends. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Gavin's 4/14 Masquerade, Atlanta review pt.2 Date: 28 May 2001 23:01:53 -0700 (PDT) part 2 of my review... --------------- LX goes straight into Once More, which tonight resembles the Bedrock mix. As the track progresses, he mixes in bits and pieces of Paul Van Dyke's "Avenue" and then mixes it into a track I don't recognize, which is comprised of beats only. Then LX abruptly drops the needle onto Egnable and looks up to the ceiling as if he didn't know where it came from. He then looks over to Fil and points his finger and starts laughing moniacly at him, which Fil responds to by chasing LX across the stage with a humiliated smile and flailing fists. The chase ends with Fil, LX , and Witchy sharing a laugh, then returning to their places to start Terminus. Other than the site of LX bouncing around and a few bits of FFWD, tonights version has nothing more to offer than what the album version does. As it ends, Simon enters the stage again and picks up his bass. The high hat track kicks on, and the guy just to my right insists in showing his approval as loudly as possible. Simon improvises a bit on the bassline and LX plays samples from Toxygene, a sports announcer shouting "GoooooOOOAAaall!", along with the theme from Bonanza, plus a few other minor bits. The mix gets thrown quite a few echoey effects, really making this version stand out. Most of the in-between cuts sound to be extracts from 2001, as did the one that led into Outlands. After a minute of even more ambient space sounds, Little Fluffy Clouds was played. I was happy to see that they kept it's place in the setlist here instead of closing the show with it, as was the case in Boynton Beach. LX's treatment of the Ricki Lee Jones bits resembled the ending of the version from Live 93, with her voice fading in and out multiple times. Hamlet of kings was next, and I'm not certain if this is really a live track or a segue, with nobody on stage, I believe it's the latter. EDM comes on next, with Simon back at the mixer. Witchman comes back on stage with a camcorder and films the audience, and then takes the mixer back from Simon, who walks off stage. LX spins something other than space noise - distorted beats of some sort to take us into Thursday's Keeper. The crowd has thinned a bit after LFC, but that doesn't phase the rest of us. The charge anthem seems to only get a small reaction tonight but TK seems to be a lengthy version, with a few extra mixing tricks tagged onto the end. The guys wave goodnight, and Mr. Sandman is used as the show's outro music, and the video screens return to the BadOrb visuals. After the show ended, I went upto the stage to greet Jena and talked about their set. She tells me "This is the first time I've seen them live stone cold sober, and it's better than I imagined!" Her hubby said that all the songs sounded better live than on the album, and for the most part I agree. I ask them where they're staying and what time they're leaving in the morning, thinking that maybe I'll offer to meet them for breakfast, but when they say "first thing in the morning" I decide against it. I say good night to them, then Ricky and Darrin talk to me about my plans for the night and offer to smoke me up. I tell them that I want to hang around a bit, hopefully so I can give LX Jo's t-shirt. I walk over to the merchandise stand and purchase an Orb baseball cap and a Cydonia tee. Another customer there catches my eye with his mega-rare US ORB tour t-shit, and he compliments me on my Adventures Beyond t-shirt. we make small talk, I tell him about my tour plans and he wishes me safe travels. Kevin, Ricky and Darrin are standing around with his pink haired sister Rebecca and another guy named Alex, both Georgia Tech music students and talk about going back to their sound lab in the school to play around with their equipment. Since I have nowhere to be for a few nights, I say sure, giving up hope on running into LX tonight. Ricky and Darrin get into my car and I plug my DAT into my cassette deck a'la cd adapter and review the tape to see if it came out or not. And it did. Darrin comments on how good the sound is, even though my DAT wasn't meant to be played through a cassette player with an adapter that's not a perfect match. When we get to the Georgia Tech Campus around 2:30 AM, We gain entry to the music lab without problem and immediately the electronic drumkit catches my eye. Darrin plays a song on the computer as I continue to toy around with the electronic drums. After an hour in the lab, we say goodnight to Rebecca & Alex, and I drive Ricky, Darrin, and Kevin back to the parking lot across from the Masquerade. I drop off Kevin at his car, then Ricky insists I drive over to a secluded corner of the lot and brandishes a bowl. We continue to listen to the show on DAT, talk and enjoy. Darrin has to get back to Jacksonville relatively quickly, so we say goodnight, and Ricky insists he'll be fine for the lengthy drive - his sollution: take some speed. They tell me that it's been fun and wish me good luck for the remainder of my tour. After I drop them off, instead of driving to the interstate, I decide to drive by the venue to see if the Orb is still there. 4 AM. Sure enough, the crew is loading the tour bus. I pull in as Fil is pushing a box of gear of some sort, so I get out and say hello. I hand him the t-shirt, asking him to relay it to LX. At the same time, Alex (visuals guy) is walking past and notices my license plates "Look at the number tags! Fil!" Fil takes a peak and his eyes widen. "I guess you can say I'm a bit of a fan." Fil respnds "I guess so!" David walks by and Alex stops him to look at my plates, but his reaction isn't as noteworthy. Fil tells me that they're driving to New York, and I tell him I'm qiute familar with the tour schedule, having tickets to all the shows. "Oh your kiding! ALEX! This guy has tickets to all the shows!" I smile, and say good night. Fil responds "I'll give this (t-shirt) to LX. Have a safe drive." I tell them "I'll see you in New York!", get in my car and head north up I-85 with the plans of driving until I'm tired. Mission accomplished! the wrath of the Orbaddict has been sensed. As for the recording: 111 min in length, fidelity is very good, but has some bass spikes during Mile Long Lump and Promis. Crowd noise is less tonight until Hamlet Of Kings, where it becomes typical. The Autolump/Witchman tape didn't track, so I ended up with 2 hours of blank tape! Doh! Stupid 90 meter tapes! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hlady Subject: (orb) LX in vancouver Date: 29 May 2001 14:17:29 -0600 I'm flying out from edmonton for this show. I've checked the clubvibes, etbros, ra house and wettbar websites and can't find any method of securing a ticket beforehand so I will rely on picking one up at the clothing outlets when I arrive. If anybody hears word of tickets selling out, please let me know. As well, if anybody is interested in meeting up before wettbar for food or drinks email me privately before 2pm pst on thursday. peace n' burnin trees MikeD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Long, Joshua L." Subject: (orb) the orb archive Date: 29 May 2001 09:15:22 -0400 what happened to orb.thearchive.org:81 Joshua Long ext: 6297 longj@rjrt.com / jmzd4@msn.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), contains information that may be confidential, protected by the attorney-client or other legal privileges, and/or proprietary non-public information. If you are not an intended recipient of this message or an authorized assistant to an intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message and/or any of its attachments (if any) by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) Gavin's 4/14 Masquerade, Atlanta review pt. 1] Date: 29 May 2001 10:43:15 EDT Gavin, are you going to try to post reviews for all the shows? If not, I= 'd love to hear any notes on the Detroit & Toronto shows (the ones I attende= d) which you can feel free to send privately. Gavin Miller wrote: Ok, this pisses me off. I now have no answers but figure that I'll try sending it to the list in 2 separate posts. Nonetheless, I'm planning on making a website displaying pictures and reviews from my tour. Well here's part 1, enjoy! Gavin ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) Re: the orb archive Date: 29 May 2001 07:52:33 -0700 http://orb.thearchive:81 is temporarily down for a massive upgrade. I'll post when it is back. Ideally going fast enough that I can switch it back to some neat servers and host more content. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: (orb) Banco de Gaia uploads Date: 29 May 2001 10:30:21 -0700 To follow up on the post about Steph's FTP, I want to announce that I've uploaded a few things that may be of interest ... Banco de Gaia /Freeform Flutes & Fading Tibetans/ Banco de Gaia /Last Train To Lhasa/ disc 3 various Banco compilation tracks & remixes Chain Reaction 137.224.147.130 login=orb password=orb Enjoy! And please feel free to give me feedback on the sound quality of /Freeform Flutes./ -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) new orb tracks? Date: 29 May 2001 13:22:46 -0600 I've posted two tracks I haven't heard of before that someone sent me from napster. They're authentic as there's a radio dj in the background speaking of the tracks. One is called Red Worm, the other is called Arm. anyone know anything about these? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) new orb tracks? Date: 29 May 2001 15:29:23 -0400 I believe Red Worm is an Adam Freeland track. Could be a remix by Lx? don't know about the other one. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: (orb) Designer's Republic Date: 29 May 2001 16:11:10 EDT This came from the Designer's Republic The 1st TDR Book -3D>2D:The Designers Republic's Adventures In and Out of Architecture with Sadar Vuga and Spela Mlakar- -is available to preorder, reserve your copy now. via: http://www.thedesignersrepublic.com or: iwant@thepeoplesbureau.com -first come, first served. -Buy Buy, -love TDR - - -- - - - - - -- Chris in NYC --- - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: Re: (orb) Any information on these Orb releases? Date: 29 May 2001 15:47:06 -0500 (CDT) I said: >> Metal CD Magazine (#11) - What Orb track is on this? >> Is it a unique remix not released elsewhere? Smiley said: > absolutely no idea. i would assume that this is a > metal band with a similar name or track title - any > more details? I sent a follow-up message last week that seems to have been lost. Once again: The CD features tunes from Hawkwind, Santana and Syd Barrett as well. If you do a web search on all of those artists you get pointed to a book called "Kaleidoscope Eyes - Psychedlic Rock from the '60's to the '90's" (1996). Perhaps this was a companion piece to that book?? >> Soundtrack - Forsaken - Videogame soundtrack remixed >> by Andy Hughes. Any good? > yeah - pretty good, afair - haven't played it for ages > though... For those interested, Andy Hughes is only on 1 track: This is really a release from a band called The Swarm with only 1 Andy Hughes remix on it. You can hear a 30 sec. clip of it at: http://www.emusic.com/albums/19651 Flameout (Andy Hughes from the Orb Mix) 4:53 -- =__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Lead Software Engineer = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com = =_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.execpc.com/~krieg = =_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Barth, David M" Subject: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 14:42:43 -0700 Hey orbsters, I've been lurking around here for awhile now & want to compliment everyone here on keeping up a good sane list. It's nice to see an internet forum where people are mature and respectful of each other. I was in a club a couple weeks ago where they were playing an orb song that I recognized but can't quite place. It has a sample of a female saying something like "It's only just the sun...". If I remember correctly she also says something about colors, "that's why all the colors...", or something. Due to background noise I could hear the sample but not the music clearly enough to place it. Does anybody remember what album-released song this is from? I think it's from an old ambient-tilted number, maybe from ABTU (although when I re-listened to that album I didn't catch it), maybe Live 93. I can *almost* hear it. It's driving me crazy that I can't place it - right...on...the tip...of..my...tongue!! Thanks in advance, Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 16:53:58 -0500 (CDT) Are you speaking of the "What were the skies like when you were young? They were long and clear and there were lots of stars at night" etc. etc.? If so, it's Little Fluffy Clouds - ABTU. It is also on Live '93 as well as VW Commercials and various other things. James > I was in a club a couple weeks ago where they were playing an orb song that > I recognized but can't quite place. It has a sample of a female saying > something like "It's only just the sun...". If I remember correctly she > also says something about colors, "that's why all the colors...", or > something. Due to background noise I could hear the sample but not the > music clearly enough to place it. Does anybody remember what album-released > song this is from? I think it's from an old ambient-tilted number, maybe > from ABTU (although when I re-listened to that album I didn't catch it), > maybe Live 93. I can *almost* hear it. It's driving me crazy that I can't > place it - right...on...the tip...of..my...tongue!! > > Thanks in advance, > Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CarsTrucksBuses@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 17:56:53 EDT your talking about a track off Pomme Fritz...its one of the last few tracks...i can't remember the name though... tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRQ Subject: Re: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 17:55:48 -0400 It's from Pomme Fritz *the mini album*, pretty much runs through all the tracks, although I think *Alles Ist Schoen* is the nicest. "Barth, David M" wrote: > I was in a club a couple weeks ago where they were playing an orb song that > I recognized but can't quite place. It has a sample of a female saying > something like "It's only just the sun...". If I remember correctly she > also says something about colors, "that's why all the colors...", or > something. Due to background noise I could hear the sample but not the > music clearly enough to place it. Does anybody remember what album-released > song this is from? I think it's from an old ambient-tilted number, maybe > from ABTU (although when I re-listened to that album I didn't catch it), > maybe Live 93. I can *almost* hear it. It's driving me crazy that I can't > place it - right...on...the tip...of..my...tongue!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 14:59:03 -0700 "Barth, David M" wrote: > > Hey orbsters, > > I've been lurking around here for awhile now & want to compliment everyone > here on keeping up a good sane list. It's nice to see an internet forum > where people are mature and respectful of each other. Heh. You haven't been here that long, have you? ;) > I was in a club a couple weeks ago where they were playing an orb song that > I recognized but can't quite place. It has a sample of a female saying > something like "It's only just the sun...". If I remember correctly she > also says something about colors, "that's why all the colors...", or > something. Due to background noise I could hear the sample but not the > music clearly enough to place it. Does anybody remember what album-released > song this is from? I think it's from an old ambient-tilted number, maybe > from ABTU (although when I re-listened to that album I didn't catch it), > maybe Live 93. I can *almost* hear it. It's driving me crazy that I can't > place it - right...on...the tip...of..my...tongue!! IIRC, it is from one of the tracks on Pomme Fritz; but Alex has used it in a couple of places in live sets; possibly even on Live '93. Chris np: Alabama 3 - Mansion On The Hill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) hard to find vinyl resources... Date: 29 May 2001 16:02:21 -0600 anyone have any good resources for out of print or hard to find vinyl? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) hard to find vinyl resources... Date: 29 May 2001 18:12:16 -0400 besides the obvious: www.ebay.com ... no. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) hard to find vinyl resources... Date: 29 May 2001 23:11:53 +0100 > Try the following: > > General: > > E-bay - http://www.ebay.com/ > GEMM - http://www.gemm.com/ > Netsounds - http://www.netsounds.com/ > > Shops: > > Hard-to-find-Records - http://www.htfr.com/ > Replay Records - http://www.replayrecords.com/ > Bus Stop Records - http://www.busstop-records.co.uk/ > Vinyl Exchange - http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ > Rhythm Online - http://www.rhythm-online.demon.co.uk/ > Action Records - http://www.action-records.co.uk/ > > These are the ones I use, anyway... Good luck! > > l8rs, > > > Nick ;-) > > anyone have any good resources for out of print or hard to find vinyl? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) good news (maybe) Date: 29 May 2001 18:18:45 -0400 I was able to pull it up today. Doesn't seem like anything's changed. However, I'm sure we'll hear word as soon as the e-comm part of it is unvieled. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) new orb tracks? Date: 29 May 2001 23:44:09 +0100 (BST) bi11i wrote: > I've posted two tracks I haven't heard of before > that someone sent me from napster. One is called > Red Worm, the other is called Arm. anyone > know anything about these? yeah - they're from the 'evening session' tracks from a couple of months ago, on radio 1 in the UK. i think 'arm' is actually called 'ERM', but there was some confusion with track titles on the broadcast (to do with the label on the tapes) - tracks broadcast were: monday: erm (?) tuesday: edm wednesday: red worm thursday: once more cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Bryan" Subject: (orb) Lamacq tracks Date: 30 May 2001 00:12:03 -0400 > > I've posted two tracks I haven't heard of before > > that someone sent me from napster. One is called > > Red Worm, the other is called Arm. anyone > > know anything about these? > > yeah - they're from the 'evening session' tracks from > a couple of months ago, on radio 1 in the UK. > > i think 'arm' is actually called 'ERM', but there was > some confusion with track titles on the broadcast (to > do with the label on the tapes) - tracks broadcast > were: > > monday: erm (?) > tuesday: edm > wednesday: red worm > thursday: once more I have the 1st three of these, has anyone seen the fourth? I'm just looking for once more. will put them on my ftp shortly. does anyone have any other bbc show/orb stuff? interesting 2 new tracks... ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Barth, David M" Subject: RE: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 29 May 2001 21:12:56 -0700 Yup, tracks 4 & 5 from Pomme Fritz - "...and that's why all of these, all of this steam is different colors...it's really just the sun...it's really just the sun......." I've rediscovered Alles Ist Schoen! Thanks for the help, I'll sleep better at night. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunkfux@anti-social.com" Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 29 May 2001 22:28:19 -0700 Dunno if anyone posted this or not, but the mars global surveyor passed over it again and took a high resolution shot of Cydonia the other day. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm lata Colin Orcas Is # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) hard to find vinyl resources... Date: 30 May 2001 08:47:18 +0100 In addition to Nick's list - don't forget:- www.eil.com www.opalmusic.com www.lemonade.co.uk www.polar-bear.co.uk and www.netsounds.com Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia version differences Date: 30 May 2001 12:13:58 +0100 Just to add what I know [and own]. There are 6 versions. The 2CD version, which wasn't "released" as the other versions were, which contains different edits etc from v1 or v2 and also contains the track Bicycles and Tricycles. An Internal sampler with 4 tracks on. Version 1, which contrary to what some people think, wasn't "released" on napster. Someone ripped it to mp3 from an original CDR and stuck it on a ftp site. The world seems to own it and has ripped it back to Audio. Version 2. Exactly the same mixes and edits as v1, just that Freely Wheely was replaced by the track Jam on yer Honey. No difference apart from that. Obviously the way the album is mixed i.e. the tracks together, and when skipping on a CD player the end part of some tracks is the beginning etc so it's not *exactly* the same mix, but I can assure you that the edits are the same i.e. you ain't missing anything. Version 3 - not marked as such on the cover, but this is the non UK version that is missing the track EDM. As others have said, the edits on some tracks are different from v1 or v2. I haven't bothered to check the times, but I know they are. Version 4 - again, not marked as such. This is the UK version i.e. has EDM as the "extra" track. Exactly the same as v3 in terms of edits and mixes. Version 3 & 4 are the retail version in the respective countries i.e. same mixes and track times. Hope this helps. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 30 May 2001 09:36:56 -0400 David B. Proclaimed: > I've rediscovered Alles Ist Schoen! > Thanks for the help, I'll sleep better at night. e r i c replied: Every 2 months or so, all orb fans should revisit Pomme Fritz. it keeps a brother real, as they say. Besides, IMHO, The Little Album is one of the finest. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) it's only just the sun...? Date: 30 May 2001 14:57:19 +0100 >>Every 2 months or so, all orb fans should revisit Pomme Fritz funny you should say that, I gave it a couple of spins yesterday afternoon. I didn't realise until then that it's scratched and that track 3 is buggered........arse. I had to resort to vinyl ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 30 May 2001 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) > Version 3 - not marked as such on the cover, but > this is the non UK version > that is missing the track EDM. As others have said, > the edits on some tracks > are different from v1 or v2. I haven't bothered to > check the times, but I > know they are. > > Version 4 - again, not marked as such. This is the > UK version i.e. has EDM > as the "extra" track. Exactly the same as v3 in > terms of edits and mixes. > > Version 3 & 4 are the retail version in the > respective countries i.e. same > mixes and track times. Nah, I swear I heard some differences and even the slightest trained ear may beg to differ..... My UK special edition and the domestic release Is Different! Jo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 30 May 2001 20:19:53 +0100 >>My UK special edition and the domestic release Is Different! Yep. Sorry, completely slipped my mind. I did post on this a while back, but NO-ONE seemed the slightest bit interested. I wonder why, despite the fact that several people asked the question............. The US and UK retail versions of Cydonia sound different. Dunno what it is or why, or even if it's a louder pressing or what. What I meant to say was "Version 3 and 4 sound no different to the UK retail copy [apart from the fact the EDM is missing off v3]".....jeez you fucking pedants ;-) Assume that whenever I talk about something I ain't talking about US releases, cos I'm not American. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 30 May 2001 12:26:45 -0700 > > Version 3 & 4 are the retail version in the > > respective countries i.e. same > > mixes and track times. > > Nah, I swear I heard some differences and even the > slightest trained ear may beg to differ..... > My UK special edition and the domestic release Is > Different! I challenge. Do a double-blind comparison on identical equipment and at identical levels (a dual-transport DJ deck and mixer of some sort would be useful here) and I bet there's not. Report back with results. I have heard both and noticed no difference (other than EDM of course - just doesn't sound the same on the neutered US version for some reason) - but I have not tried this double blind experiment either. The point is subjective differences are easy to come up with, and your brain will perpetrate them if you believe them - (Hilarious example of psychoacoustics follows - read only if bored or some kind of audiophile - you have been warned): Once in a hi-fi magazine, there was a column on cables. Expensive vs. cheap, various constructions, etc. At any rate, the guy was arguing that they make no difference (beyond not using like thread or something that oxidizes horribly), contrary to popular audiophile opinion. Well, not only is his argument sound (from an engineering standpoint), he also had experience in the field. Namely, friend with thousands in gear but who was apparently some kind of idiot asks columnist to come over and help him install his new, $100/ft cable. So, columnist pretends to - then calls owner in to hear it. His reaction? "Oh, wow, this is fantastic! I can't believe I used to listen to that other crap." So, columnist suggests an experiment: "Why don't we put the old stuff back on and just see how it sounds?" So, he now hooks up the new cable sets and calls the owner back in. "Oh wow, I was right - this sounds terrible" etc. So, the columnist now pretends to put the new cables back on, and never tells the guy.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?] Date: 30 May 2001 15:44:03 EDT So basically what you have all been saying is (apart from the fact that t= here are more versions of Cydonia that I can afford right now ;) ) that I real= ly should've invested in the UK copy. = Tim C wrote: > > Version 3 & 4 are the retail version in the > > respective countries i.e. same > > mixes and track times. > = > Nah, I swear I heard some differences and even the > slightest trained ear may beg to differ..... > My UK special edition and the domestic release Is > Different! I challenge. Do a double-blind comparison on identical equipment and at identical levels (a dual-transport DJ deck and mixer of some sort would be useful here) and I bet there's not. Report back with results. I have heard both and noticed no difference (other than EDM of course - just doesn't sound the same on the neutered US version for some reason) - but I have not tried this double blind experiment either. The point is subjective differences are easy to come up with, and your brain will perpetrate them if you believe them - (Hilarious example of psychoacoustics follows - read only if bored or some kind of audiophile - you have been warned): Once in a hi-fi magazine, there was a column on cables. Expensive vs. cheap, various constructions, etc. At any rate, the guy was arguing that they make no difference (beyond not using like thread or something that oxidizes horribly), contrary to popular audiophile opinion. Well, not only is his argument sound (from an engineering standpoint), he also had experience in the field. Namely, friend with thousands in gear but who was apparently some kind of idiot asks columnist to come over and help him install his new, $100/ft cable. So, columnist pretends to - then calls owner in to hear it. His reaction? "Oh, wow, this is fantastic! = I can't believe I used to listen to that other crap." So, columnist suggests an experiment: "Why don't we put the old stuff back on and just see how it sounds?" So, he now hooks up the new cable sets and calls the owner back in. "Oh wow, I was right - this sounds terrible" etc. So, the columnist now pretends to put the new cables back on, and never tells the guy.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?] Date: 30 May 2001 20:49:44 +0100 >>hat I really should've invested in the UK copy. Yes and no. If I were in your position I would stick with the US version and d/l Cydonia v1 and EDM from one of the ftp sites. BUT - I don't condone this and actually think it's wrong - but on the other hand, understand that not everyone can afford to buy promos of Cydonia. Once More is a different matter entirely............... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 30 May 2001 16:15:41 -0400 : Assume that whenever I talk about something I ain't talking about US : releases, cos I'm not American. Damn right! Oh wait, I'm an American ;-) ...you know those yellow bastards that jumped the mother ship and swam across the pond to set up the same oppressive society they were trying to escape. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: (orb) Record Stores/Clubs - London Date: 30 May 2001 15:23:42 -0500 (CDT) I think I am going to be in London over the next week. Anyone have any recommendations for any good music stores and clubs to go to? E-mail me off the list, please. Thanks! James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [RE: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?]] Date: 30 May 2001 16:27:53 EDT Of course. It was easy to find all 3 promos of Once More, even here in t= he States, and very cheaply too. Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: Once More is a different matter entirely............... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: merrick patton schaefer Subject: (orb) tasty quote Date: 30 May 2001 15:55:51 -0500 (CDT) >>http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm I think that the following was by far the best quote from that article. "Climbing the mesas of Cydonia --if that's where we start-- will be just the beginning." Somebody should sample it from the mp3 reading of the story. it is at about 8 minutes in. It is a shame the voice is so monotone. But I guess that is what FX processors are for. I think it would go well in a remix of any of the tracks off of cydonia. merrick __________________________________________________________________ Good web architects make sites that are useful, usable, informative, entertaining, accessible, and aesthetically pleasing. Bad web architects make crap. -- Zeldman phone address (312)492-7461 800 S. Claremont, Apt. 1 cell Chicago, IL 60612 (312)543-2630 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?] Date: 30 May 2001 14:44:08 -0700 Susan Bartos wrote: > > So basically what you have all been saying is (apart from the fact that there > are more versions of Cydonia that I can afford right now ;) ) that I really > should've invested in the UK copy. Unless the mysterious "+2" version actually is real and contains EDM as one of the "pluses" - as seen on Amazon.com sans track listing or any other useful information.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (orb) Rock Cd No 11 Date: 30 May 2001 23:30:25 +0100 Ok everyone a Orb track Spanish Castles in Space appeared on a compilation disc given free with issue no 11 of a magazine called Rock CD. This version is a different live take with Life of Brian samples in it.I hope this helps. Regards Mark Weston. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Rock Cd No 11 Date: 30 May 2001 15:31:43 -0700 mark weston wrote: > > Ok everyone a Orb track Spanish Castles in Space appeared on a compilation > disc given free with issue no 11 of a magazine called Rock CD. This version > is a different live take with Life of Brian samples in it.I hope this helps. It's in the discography: [Spanish Castles in Space] [on RCD Classic Rock Collection Vol 11] CD: 1993 UK (RCD Magazine; RCD11) 12:44 Spanish Castles in Space (live) I've been after this disc for years, and it is the only "exclusive" mix that I'm missing (aside from Cydonia-era stuff, but it's early going yet). Chris np: Thursday Teatime w/ The Orb 5/17/01 (I *really* like that damn Elvis song) :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) new orb tracks? Date: 30 May 2001 16:13:03 -0700 > monday: erm (?) > tuesday: edm > wednesday: red worm > thursday: once more So, uhh, does anyone have these in non-mp3 form? And if so, would you be interested in trading? Pretty please? :) Chris np: same thing...different disc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: Re: (orb) Rock Cd No 11 Date: 30 May 2001 16:27:26 -0700 (PDT) I got this mix of Spanish Castles from napster a LONG time ago, somebody mail me on how to upload this to the OAA and I'll post it for you all. -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) microphone test Date: 30 May 2001 16:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Ummm another thing, on Napster a while ago I got a song called microphone test by "Orb". Ya I know it's not probably them but it DOES kinda sound like the Cocksville USA rhythm...kinda. Lots of panning and stuff... if anyone's intrested, mail me privately. -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:09:59 -0700 On what compilation or single did Cocksville USA appear? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: Re: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:24:52 -0700 (PDT) That would be Axiom Dub. a compilation by Bill Laswell. Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he had anything to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring the second appearence of Kris Needs) Needs is the guy doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess the chicken sounds were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording session but Alex didn't use it until later. If you want I'll put this up too. -Peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson or Shannon Beets Subject: Re: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:37:43 -0700 noraa selim wrote: > > That would be Axiom Dub. a compilation by Bill Laswell. > Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he had anything > to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring the second appearence of > Kris Needs) Needs is the guy doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess > the chicken sounds were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording > session but Alex didn't use it until later. If you want I'll put this > up too. Actually, Cocksville USA, Codpiece, and Occidental are all differently mixed versions of the same track. Try listening to all three back to back. (The demos (from the 6-CD mp3 set) of all three tracks make this especially obvious.) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Rock Cd No 11 Date: 30 May 2001 22:39:24 -0700 (PDT) But what the discography fails to mention is: Recorded live in Leeds England 10/14/92, and the cd version is shorter than the live version (faded in, faded out) Gavin > [Spanish Castles in Space] > [on RCD Classic Rock Collection Vol 11] > CD: 1993 UK (RCD Magazine; RCD11) > 12:44 Spanish Castles in Space (live) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia/Andy hughes set Date: 30 May 2001 23:23:25 -0700 I've been listening to this track nonstop, I can't seem to find it anywhere on vinyl, or cd Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) also, can anyone identify any of the trax on Andy's set that is up on the oaa? I'd love to get my hands on some of those tunes. and one last thing, does anyone know if Andy will join the Caffiene tour again this summer? any help would be much appreciated -Chris (still mourning the departure of Andy from the Orb) np- you guessed it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) upload-a-thon Date: 30 May 2001 23:34:55 -0700 (PDT) There were several tracks I didn't see on the OAA that I decided to upload. I hope I didn't piss off anybody (I'm pretty sure they're all out o' print, if some are, you can kick my ass later...) BTW, to whoever recorded Redworm from the radio, (the new track) THANK YOU!!! God DAMN, it takes me back to my old Newage "sleepcore" days. Can't wait to see if a "official copy" comes out of the woodwork.Thanks again, and hope you like the music! - peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: [RE: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?]] Date: 31 May 2001 08:20:28 +0100 >>Of course. It was easy to find all 3 promos of Once More, even here in the States, and very cheaply too. Really? Perhaps you could tell some of your fellow US listees how you managed it - they seem to be having problems........ As for the Japanese version - I think enough people on the list have it and have proved that the only "extra" track is EDM. No second extra track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia/Andy hughes set Date: 31 May 2001 08:32:59 +0100 >>Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) Chris, without referring to Lazlo's bible, I know it was released on promo 12" [cos I have it] and I think it was also on their LP - but I don't know if that was released or not. Either way I'm sure I've seen that on CD and Vinyl. As for the Andy Hughes set, when I d/l I'll try and work out some of the tracks. Hope it helps. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb)Red Worm (Radio 1 track) Date: 31 May 2001 01:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Hello all, Can anyone tell me which FTP Red Worm has been uploaded to? Also, can anyone tell me the ftp for OAA? (Is it the 24.1.153.3 address?) Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) upload-a-thon Date: 31 May 2001 19:18:14 +0800 >BTW, to whoever recorded Redworm from the radio, (the new track) THANK >YOU!!! God DAMN, it takes me back to my old Newage "sleepcore" days. Can't >wait to see if a "official copy" comes out of the woodwork.Thanks again, >and hope you like the music! what music counts as sleepcore then? i used to write music especially for sleeping to, so this is an intriguing proposition. Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 31 May 2001 08:53:14 EDT Wow! Maybe I was lucky then. I found the brown one at a hole-in-the-wal= l record store (Schoolkids Records in Ann Arbor, Michigan, if anyone is rem= otely nearby, definitely worth a shuffle thru their vinyl). The green one I fo= und at another local record store, and I won the blue copy on ebay - try user= name: promosgalore. As for the commercial UK releases, try Barnes and Noble, th= ey had them for the price of a domestic single. = Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: Really? Perhaps you could tell some of your fellow US listees how you managed it - they seem to be having problems........ As for the Japanese version - I think enough people on the list have it a= nd have proved that the only "extra" track is EDM. No second extra track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?] Date: 31 May 2001 08:57:04 EDT I should amend that: try an actual Barnes and Noble *store*, not www.barnesandnoble.com, which lists them at a normal (ie, expensive) "imp= ort" single price. Susan Bartos wrote: As for the commercial UK releases, try Barnes and Noble, they had them for the price of a domestic single. = ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Elvis Date: 31 May 2001 09:22:53 -0400 : np: Thursday Teatime w/ The Orb 5/17/01 : (I *really* like that damn Elvis song) :P Me too. I tell you, I was this close |] [| to making the courus a part of my sig. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: (orb) WAY OT.... Outlook express and Newsgroups. Date: 31 May 2001 09:48:28 -0400 sorry about this way ot message, but can anybody help me set up newsgroups in outlook express? I have all the server info put it, but I can't seem to make it download the newsgroups listing, and I can't add groups manually... thanks all. -djbluE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: URGENT NEWS - LX WILL _NOT_ BE APPEARING... Date: 31 May 2001 15:18:42 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com dear all - i've been asked to pass this on ASAP: > A mad thing has just come to our attention > > ALEX PATERSON - DJ/CANADA > Toronto - May 29 > Calgary - June 1 > > It has come to our attention that Alex was > advertised to DJ in Toronto (may 29) and Calgary > (June 1st). Unfortunately the promoter has seemingly > falsely advertised as Alex was in London on Tuesday > night and will be in Europe on Friday. I have been > alerted to this via The Orb's and Alex's DJ booking > agent in USA. If anyone is intending to go to see > Alex DJ in Calgary please be aware that he will not > be spinning. We have never received a request for > these shows let alone confirmed the booking, as you > all know The Orb are currently out on the road. > We are trying to get to the bottom of this, just > wanted to let everyone know the situation in case > you did go to Toronto and were disppointed or are > intending to go to Calgary show. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia/Andy hughes set Date: 31 May 2001 08:59:17 -0700 >I've been listening to this track nonstop, I can't seem to find it anywhere >on vinyl, or cd >Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) This is on Blue Room's More Signs Of Life (track 8) =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?] Date: 31 May 2001 08:57:04 EDT I should amend that: try an actual Barnes and Noble *store*, not www.barnesandnoble.com, which lists them at a normal (ie, expensive) "imp= ort" single price. Susan Bartos wrote: As for the commercial UK releases, try Barnes and Noble, they had them for the price of a domestic single. = ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Elvis Date: 31 May 2001 09:22:53 -0400 : np: Thursday Teatime w/ The Orb 5/17/01 : (I *really* like that damn Elvis song) :P Me too. I tell you, I was this close |] [| to making the courus a part of my sig. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ? Date: 31 May 2001 08:53:14 EDT Wow! Maybe I was lucky then. I found the brown one at a hole-in-the-wal= l record store (Schoolkids Records in Ann Arbor, Michigan, if anyone is rem= otely nearby, definitely worth a shuffle thru their vinyl). The green one I fo= und at another local record store, and I won the blue copy on ebay - try user= name: promosgalore. As for the commercial UK releases, try Barnes and Noble, th= ey had them for the price of a domestic single. = Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: Really? Perhaps you could tell some of your fellow US listees how you managed it - they seem to be having problems........ As for the Japanese version - I think enough people on the list have it a= nd have proved that the only "extra" track is EDM. No second extra track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb)Red Worm (Radio 1 track) Date: 31 May 2001 01:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Hello all, Can anyone tell me which FTP Red Worm has been uploaded to? Also, can anyone tell me the ftp for OAA? (Is it the 24.1.153.3 address?) Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) upload-a-thon Date: 30 May 2001 23:34:55 -0700 (PDT) There were several tracks I didn't see on the OAA that I decided to upload. I hope I didn't piss off anybody (I'm pretty sure they're all out o' print, if some are, you can kick my ass later...) BTW, to whoever recorded Redworm from the radio, (the new track) THANK YOU!!! God DAMN, it takes me back to my old Newage "sleepcore" days. Can't wait to see if a "official copy" comes out of the woodwork.Thanks again, and hope you like the music! - peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: Re: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:24:52 -0700 (PDT) That would be Axiom Dub. a compilation by Bill Laswell. Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he had anything to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring the second appearence of Kris Needs) Needs is the guy doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess the chicken sounds were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording session but Alex didn't use it until later. If you want I'll put this up too. -Peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Rock Cd No 11 Date: 30 May 2001 22:39:24 -0700 (PDT) But what the discography fails to mention is: Recorded live in Leeds England 10/14/92, and the cd version is shorter than the live version (faded in, faded out) Gavin > [Spanish Castles in Space] > [on RCD Classic Rock Collection Vol 11] > CD: 1993 UK (RCD Magazine; RCD11) > 12:44 Spanish Castles in Space (live) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: (orb) WAY OT.... Outlook express and Newsgroups. Date: 31 May 2001 09:48:28 -0400 sorry about this way ot message, but can anybody help me set up newsgroups in outlook express? I have all the server info put it, but I can't seem to make it download the newsgroups listing, and I can't add groups manually... thanks all. -djbluE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:09:59 -0700 On what compilation or single did Cocksville USA appear? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) upload-a-thon Date: 31 May 2001 19:18:14 +0800 >BTW, to whoever recorded Redworm from the radio, (the new track) THANK >YOU!!! God DAMN, it takes me back to my old Newage "sleepcore" days. Can't >wait to see if a "official copy" comes out of the woodwork.Thanks again, >and hope you like the music! what music counts as sleepcore then? i used to write music especially for sleeping to, so this is an intriguing proposition. Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia/Andy hughes set Date: 30 May 2001 23:23:25 -0700 I've been listening to this track nonstop, I can't seem to find it anywhere on vinyl, or cd Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) also, can anyone identify any of the trax on Andy's set that is up on the oaa? I'd love to get my hands on some of those tunes. and one last thing, does anyone know if Andy will join the Caffiene tour again this summer? any help would be much appreciated -Chris (still mourning the departure of Andy from the Orb) np- you guessed it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia/Andy hughes set Date: 31 May 2001 08:32:59 +0100 >>Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) Chris, without referring to Lazlo's bible, I know it was released on promo 12" [cos I have it] and I think it was also on their LP - but I don't know if that was released or not. Either way I'm sure I've seen that on CD and Vinyl. As for the Andy Hughes set, when I d/l I'll try and work out some of the tracks. Hope it helps. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: [RE: [Re: (orb) Cydonia ver differ?]] Date: 31 May 2001 08:20:28 +0100 >>Of course. It was easy to find all 3 promos of Once More, even here in the States, and very cheaply too. Really? Perhaps you could tell some of your fellow US listees how you managed it - they seem to be having problems........ As for the Japanese version - I think enough people on the list have it and have proved that the only "extra" track is EDM. No second extra track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson or Shannon Beets Subject: Re: (orb) cocksville usa Date: 30 May 2001 22:37:43 -0700 noraa selim wrote: > > That would be Axiom Dub. a compilation by Bill Laswell. > Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he had anything > to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring the second appearence of > Kris Needs) Needs is the guy doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess > the chicken sounds were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording > session but Alex didn't use it until later. If you want I'll put this > up too. Actually, Cocksville USA, Codpiece, and Occidental are all differently mixed versions of the same track. Try listening to all three back to back. (The demos (from the 6-CD mp3 set) of all three tracks make this especially obvious.) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (orb) It's all about Andy-anaesthesia Date: 31 May 2001 17:17:34 +0100 (BST) rachel wrote: > >Anaesthesia- Dirty Hiss (orb remix) > > This is on Blue Room's More Signs Of Life (track 8) yep, but only an edited (7-8 minute) version. afaik, the full 15-minute jobbie is only on the promo vinyl. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Watch out, watch out, there's a FAKE Alex about! Date: 31 May 2001 17:16:02 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com More news on these Canadian DJ shows... > Just found out that there's an Alex Paterson > insposter!!..can you believe it..the DJ gigs in > Canada were booked by a promoter who allegedly has > been a friends with pretend Alex for several years > and booked the gigs direct with pretend Alex. > It's difficult to get your head round I know...this > guy has shaved head and similar piercings as real > Alex ...anyways I just wanted to apologise again > for anyone that has gone to the shows expecting the > real Alex Paterson - if going to Calgary please do > not go, Alex will be in Italy! > We are obviously looking into the implecations of > this : FRAUD comes to mind. > An official press release from Alex's Exclusive > booking agent for USA/Canada is circulating in > Canada and 'de management' will also be > sending out press release. how bizarre... --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: URGENT NEWS - LX WILL _NOT_ BE APPEARING... Date: 31 May 2001 15:18:42 +0100 (BST) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com dear all - i've been asked to pass this on ASAP: > A mad thing has just come to our attention > > ALEX PATERSON - DJ/CANADA > Toronto - May 29 > Calgary - June 1 > > It has come to our attention that Alex was > advertised to DJ in Toronto (may 29) and Calgary > (June 1st). Unfortunately the promoter has seemingly > falsely advertised as Alex was in London on Tuesday > night and will be in Europe on Friday. I have been > alerted to this via The Orb's and Alex's DJ booking > agent in USA. If anyone is intending to go to see > Alex DJ in Calgary please be aware that he will not > be spinning. We have never received a request for > these shows let alone confirmed the booking, as you > all know The Orb are currently out on the road. > We are trying to get to the bottom of this, just > wanted to let everyone know the situation in case > you did go to Toronto and were disppointed or are > intending to go to Calgary show. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) RE: ORBULLETIN: Watch out, watch out, there's a FAKE Alex about! Date: 31 May 2001 12:22:52 -0500 > Just found out that there's an Alex Paterson > insposter!! > It's difficult to get your head round I know...this > guy has shaved head and similar piercings as real > Alex... Eerily reminiscent of the fake Frankie Goes to Hollywood who were trekking across the States last year... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: URGENT NEWS - LX WILL _NOT_ BE APPEARING... Date: 31 May 2001 13:44:52 -0400 : > It has come to our attention that Alex was : > advertised to DJ in Toronto (may 29) and Calgary : > (June 1st). Unfortunately the promoter has seemingly : > falsely advertised as Alex was in London on Tuesday : > night and will be in Europe on Friday. I'm not even in Canada, but Fu*k those mother Fu*k-erz (trying to avoid filtering programs from those that read Orb list on company mail servers) : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boob McNutt Subject: Re: (orb) RE: ORBULLETIN: Watch out, watch out, there's a FAKE Alex about! Date: 31 May 2001 13:57:43 -0400 (EDT) > > > > Just found out that there's an Alex Paterson > > insposter!! > > It's difficult to get your head round I know...this > > guy has shaved head and similar piercings as real > > Alex... > > Eerily reminiscent of the fake Frankie Goes to Hollywood who were trekking > across the States last year... How about the "Wanda Dee and the new KLF" tour of years past??? -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "If we aren't supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Watch out, watch out, there's a FAKE Alex about! Date: 31 May 2001 13:58:35 -0400 However, there is a disco-house DJ from Europe named Alex Patterson (note the double T's)... sometimes he goes by Alex P I have an Ibiza comp (that a friend bought me, I swear :-) that he mixed. Canadian Listees... Was it advertised as Alex Paterson from the Orb? Since at least in the states, It's always billed like that. It sucks though. Wasn't there a cat on the list that was FLYING to go see Lx? : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 14:07:21 -0500 > Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he had anything to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring the second appearence of Kris Needs) Needs is the guy doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess the chicken sounds were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording session but Alex didn't use it until later. ===>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 14:11:37 -0400 : ===>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient : artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, : and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN : SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and : I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. Boredom. Or to elicit the same response that was provoked from you... I don't know. I like when Musicians fuck with your head. However, I do see what you mean. Sometimes it's just way overboard. However, You can give me frog ribbits ANY-day though. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 11:26:31 -0700 (PDT) : ===>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient : artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, : and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN : SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and : I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. ya. The article I read said they were drunk at the mixing board. I guess it was supposed to be funny....hummmmm -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Wallace Subject: RE: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 13:35:44 -0500 > ===>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient > artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, > and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN > SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and > I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. I've never heard Cocksville. Is the chicken sound anything like the dog sample in Towers of Dub? I always thought the dog sample was pretty appropriate with LX's goofy nature! On the other hand, I've always hated new-age/ambient artists' overuse of the chirpy pan flute. *ack*.. *ick*.. *gag*! It's even worse when those who don't have anything to do with new-age/ambient always associate that flute with it. It's almost a stereotype. -Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Evans" Subject: (orb) Unidentified Frequencies of Orb? Date: 31 May 2001 19:38:00 +0100 >The Orb: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb >[1994] bootleg remix album >CD: 1994 UK (??; ??) > 8:47 Little Fluffy Clouds (out of ultraworld mix) >14:02 Out Of Body Experience (crack in the sky remix) >11:00 UFOrb (russian intervention mix) >15:21 Close Encounters (lunatics feel love mix) >14:01 Blue Room (universum mix) > 8:26 Towers of Dub (perpetual twighlight at dawn mix) Couple of Q's regarding the above boot: 1 - is the above track order as per the CD? 2 - from where did each of these remixed tracks originate and who remixed them? Cheers'n'little fluffy clouds oRbSCure _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 14:38:51 -0400 You would hate negativland, then. :) In all honesty, I agree somewhat. There are ambient artists who corrupt a nice web of sound with a jarring sample from time to time. But that's all part of the fun with ambient, now isn't it? I think the quality and caliber of musician determines how well sampled sounds are incorporated into the music. Often, straight samples in exquisite arrangement can be quite meaningful and harmonious amdist the overall silliness. > artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, : > and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit > like...CHICKEN : SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued > (and : I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. ya. The > article I read said they were drunk at the mixing board. I guess # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [RE: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds] Date: 31 May 2001 14:47:11 EDT IMO, depends on the piece. I think the dog in Towers of Dub is entirely appropriate, since the song itself is lighthearted. Now, throw that same= sample into David Sylvian's "Home" and you've got a disaster. > =3D=3D=3D>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient > artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, > and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN > SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and > I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: [RE: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds] Date: 31 May 2001 19:49:37 +0100 I don't mind stoopid noises and mad samples - ain't that what the Orb is all about? I'm positive that the barking dog is made to sound like you walking down a street whilst tripping and hearing a dog bark.....it even pans out and back in again. Trust me, it sounds like the real thing........memories eh? I don't even mind the chicken noises on Huge Ever....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 12:53:02 -0600 Vince, I guess answering this question by making the obvious "cock-of-the-walk"/cocksville/rooster noise comparison, is not going to make it sound any less plagued. That was always my interpretation of it. There are plenty of phallocentric references made during this point in Orb career culminating the "a hard man is good to find" bit on the Toxygene singles. Oh and the "Oh what a beauty/I've never seen one as big/as this before" reference on Toxygene single, too. If I recall correctly wasn't that sample from a "Kentucky Fried Movie"-ish movie of that same period in the > Seventies, wherein someone is getting their kit out. Or, perhaps a Spike Jones (vs. Jonez) song from back in the day. In my mind, a track is not plagued if their is good reason for this sort of noise. Or, in this case a pattern. 'bette np: Workshop - Hookli Pat Vince Frank wrote: > > Bill was putting a CD together and he asked Alex if he > had anything to add. Alex gave him Cocksville, (featuring > the second appearence of Kris Needs) Needs is the guy > doing the chicken sounds in it. I guess the chicken sounds > were recorded during the Bytesized nuns recording session > but Alex didn't use it until later. > > ===>One thing I will never understand is why so many ambient > artists take an otherwise beautiful or stunning piece of music, > and totally fucking ruin it by adding weird-ass shit like...CHICKEN > SOUNDS. :-P So much ambient music is plagued (and > I *do* mean PLAGUED) by that sort of crap. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Fake Alex Date: 31 May 2001 13:52:08 -0500 I just read an article written for Ammo City, by Sylvia Patterson who interviews an Alex P. who is some Ibiza DJ, upset about the number of partiers who die in Ibiza every year. It's probably the one who mixed the comp. > > > > However, there is a disco-house DJ from Europe named Alex Patterson (note > the double T's)... sometimes he goes by Alex P > > I have an Ibiza comp (that a friend bought me, I swear :-) that he mixed. > > Canadian Listees... Was it advertised as Alex Paterson from the Orb? Since > at least in the states, It's always billed like that. > > It sucks though. Wasn't there a cat on the list that was FLYING to go see > Lx? > > "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: (orb) Casper lad, get off that bloody crossbar! Date: 31 May 2001 19:57:07 +0100 >>h and the "Oh what a beauty/I've never seen one as big/as this before" Meant to ask about this - I was listening to it again the other day, and it reminds me of the scene from Rita, Sue and Bob too - but they [Black Lace] don't sing that ;-) It reminds me more of the scene from Kes where his mum and brother are drinking in the WMC and some song like that is being sung - again I ain't seen it for a while so I'm just going off memory. Either way, it sounds like it's being sung by "English" people so my theory could be right. PS Make sure you see both as they are well funny **completely lost on all non Northerners**............ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: FW: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 14:25:55 -0500 I'm so f-ing sick of this message bounce crap. Ambient by definition is supposed to be music that blends effortlessly into the surroundings. If the samples don't even blend into to the song itself, it ceases to be ambient. When people talk about being "Orbed", that's ambient. The best examples of this are from Brian Eno who coined the term "ambient music". The Live '93 version of Spanish Castles In Space has this totally annoying and overused donald duck vomit sound that's so annoying and totally takes away from the track. I would aggree that the dog barking in Towers of Dub sounds really cool though. Don "You would hate negativland, then. :) In all honesty, I agree somewhat. There are ambient artists who corrupt a nice web of sound with a jarring sample from time to time. But that's all part of the fun with ambient, now isn't it?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Blanch" Subject: (orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone! Date: 31 May 2001 19:54:20 -0000 I KNOW this ISN'T Orb related but because this is an International list, and there are so many of us Orb fans across the world, perhaps you'd be interested in the following petition, I know by the type of band the Orb are, they'd agree to participate... If any of you are avid environmentalists then I'm sure you wouldn't mind giving a minute of your time to this. Follow the directions below and show how much of a selfish arsehole President Bush is.... Love to all Lee Climate change President Bush recently announced that the United States Government will not honour its commitments under the 1997 Kyoto Protocol to reduce greenhouse gases. The United States produce 25% of the world+s carbon dioxide, a gas that is believed to be the main contributor to global warming. Rising global temperatures are known to raise sea levels, and change precipitation and other climate conditions. Changing climates alter forests, crop yields, and water supplies. It could also threaten human health, and harm birds, fish, and many types of ecosystems. An increase in weather-related disasters will occur, deserts may expand into existing range lands, densely populated coastal areas will flood and large numbers of people will have to move. Show you disagree with the Bush Administration+s decision to withdraw from the 1997 Kyoto Protocol on Global Warming. Urge President Bush to review his policy in this matter and devise a comprehensive plan to reduce US emissions of so-called greenhouse gases. Copy the entire text of this e-mail (do NOT use the forward button), into a new message, sign your name, town and country of residence at the bottom of this e-mail and send it to as many people as possible. If you see 100 people have signed this message before you, send this e-mail to the White House at president@whitehouse.gov to show Mr. Bush the world is watching. Then start a fresh copy of this message with your name as the first signer. Thank you. 01 - Tom Gehrels, Toronto, Canada 02 - René Pottkamp, Amsterdam, the Netherlands 03 - Beppechien Bruins Slot, Haarlem, the Netherlands 04 - Marloes Kraan, Amsterdam, the Netherlands 05 - Kim Knibbe, Amsterdam, the Netherlands 06 - Jose Lima, Portugal 7-Rui Pereira, Lisboa, Portugal8-Joăo Alves, Lisboa, Portugal 09 - Nuno Veríssimo, Lisboa, Portugal 10 - Joăo Sobral, Cascais, Portugal 11 - Sven Harthun, Lisboa, Portugal12-Kathrin Matischak, Darmstadt, Germany 13 - Christian Löber, Marburg, Germany 14 - Stefanie Michel, Wellington, New Zealand 15 - Elena Meerbothe, Dauborn, Germany 16 - Mareike Becker, Limburg, Germany 17 - Tobias Brosda, Wiesbaden, Germany 18 - Kasia Grabowska, Frankfurt, Germany 19 - Justine Paton, Frankfurt, Germany 20 - Simone Paton, Dubai, United Arab Emirates 21 - Eyvonne Whiteside, Dubai, United Arab Emirates 22 - Andrew Shipley, Kuwait 23 - Emma Ramet, UK 24 - Keith Lyons, New Zealand 25 - Eva Hofstad, Norway 26 - Monique Linchausen 27 - John Slater, Australia 28 - Celestine Low, Tokyo, Japan 29 - Cate Binet, Sydney, Australia 30 - Linda Deubel, Sydney, Australia 31 - Kelly Brown, London U.K. 32 - Diana Costantini, Sydney, Australia 33 - Jackie Allison, Sydney, Australia 34 - Dave Kelly, Sydney, Australia 35 - Karin Sigrist, Thun, Switzerland 36 - Gaby Künzler, Bern, Switzerland 37 - Sandra Chawla-Gantenbein, New Delhi, India 38 - Paul Fröberg, Stockholm, Sweden 39 - Per Eklund, Oslo, Norway 40 - Nils Aaby, Oslo, Norway 41 - Peder Thaulow Eidsgaard, London Great Britain 42 - Hilde Haaskoll Haugen, London Great Britain 43 - Benedikte Louise Matre Dal, Switzerland 44 - Fredrik Luytkis, Oslo Norway 45 - Rickard Lawson, Norway 46 - Hĺkon Tillier, Oslo Norway 47 - Henrik Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden 48 - Fredrik Torstensson, Stockholm, Sweden 49 - Maria Lavonius, Stockholm, Sweden 50 - Leanne Lettieri, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 51 - Martijn Groen, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 52 - Martine Meerman, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 53 - Rutger Groen, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 54 - Jeroen Verlaan, Wilnis, The Netherlands 55 - Dirk Zeilstra, Vinkeveen, The Netherlands 56 - Dik van Mourik, Amsterdam, The Netherlands- 57 - Ernst Schade, Lisboa, Portugal - 58 - Peter Wood, Oslo, Norway, 59 - Sigmund Karlstrřm, Tirana, Albania 60 - Danny Renton, UK. 61 - Matt Darby, London, UK 62 - Elly Clark, London UK 63 - Lee Blanch, Bournemouth, UK _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Evans" Subject: Re: (orb) Unidentified Frequencies of Orb? Date: 31 May 2001 20:57:50 +0100 >The listing is correct, but I have no idea where they came from Cheers Don & thanks... oRbSCure _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone!] Date: 31 May 2001 16:09:00 EDT Wether or not I decide to sign the petition will depend on one thing... If you can prove it is crbon dioxide, not MONOXIDE, which leads to global= warming. If it's DIOXIDE, then we're all guilty by the very act of breat= hing. ;) (Sorry for the smart-a$$ remark, just bored at work and looking for a lil= entertainment) "Lee Blanch" wrote: The United States produce 25% of the world+s carbon dioxide, a gas that is believed to be the main contributor to global warming. = ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) OT: Coachella lineup question Date: 31 May 2001 13:18:35 -0700 Sorry for the off-topic, but I know there where quite a few people who went from the list: Anyone know who played *after* Smith & Mighty in the drum n bass tent? muchos gracias! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: [(orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone!] Date: 31 May 2001 16:24:35 -0400 (EDT) > If you can prove it is crbon dioxide, not MONOXIDE, which leads to global > warming. If it's DIOXIDE, then we're all guilty by the very act of breathing. > ;) Carbon Monoxide is not a stable molecule, I don't think. I mean, I don't think it really lives long enough as such to get high enough into the atmosphere to really cause any greenhouse-type damage. And as far as breathing goes, that's just silly! :) Its a question of degree; we release a TINY amount of CO2 in a day as compared to some manufacturing processes. > (Sorry for the smart-a$$ remark, just bored at work and looking for a lil > entertainment) While we're being smart-asses I figured I should add that ice-core studies done in the poles have shown that the surface temp of our planet has been WAY more stable in the last 20,000 years than for the prior 20 million or so. The changes in climate we see may not be directly a result of anything we do, and even if they are, it'd be tough to quantify them as bad per se if fluctuations of 10-15 degrees have happened in the far past. Unless you happen to care about the survival of certain self-aware bipedal mamalian organisms... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 16:32:24 -0500 > I KNOW this ISN'T Orb related but because this is an International list, and > there are so many of us Orb fans across the world, perhaps you'd be > interested in the following petition, I know by the type of band the Orb > are, they'd agree to participate... > > If any of you are avid environmentalists then I'm sure you wouldn't mind > giving a minute of your time to this. > > Follow the directions below and show how much of a selfish arsehole > President Bush is.... --snip!-- > Climate change President Bush recently announced that the United States > Government will not honour its commitments under the 1997 Kyoto Protocol to > reduce greenhouse gases. > The United States produce 25% of the world+s carbon dioxide, a gas > that is believed to be the main contributor to global warming. Rising global > temperatures are known to raise sea levels, and change precipitation and > other climate conditions. Changing climates alter forests, crop yields, and > water supplies. It could also threaten human health, and harm birds, fish, > and many types of ecosystems. An increase in weather-related disasters will > occur, deserts may expand into existing range lands, densely populated > coastal areas will flood and large numbers of people will have to move. > Show you disagree with the Bush Administration+s decision to withdraw from > the > 1997 Kyoto Protocol on Global Warming. Urge President Bush to review his > policy in this matter and devise a comprehensive plan to reduce US emissions > of so-called greenhouse gases. ===>Oh for God's sake.... If being an Orb fan requires buying into the seriously misguide philosophy of ecofascism, then count me out. You can criticize President Bush all you want (*I* didn't vote for him), but I'm sure Gore would have gladly sold his country out to the socialist agenda of the New World Order. What was it that Winston Churchill said? "If you're under 30 and are not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're over 30 and are not a conservative, you don't have a brain." Vince (flame-resistant apparell ready....) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: [(orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone!]] Date: 31 May 2001 16:40:27 EDT Well, it's been 13 years since I've had any sort of chemistry, so I could= be wrong, but the statement about carbon dioxide just seemed a little off. = I do know that there are gasses which seem to contribute to the greenhouse eff= ect and/or the hole in the ozone, I'm just not sure CO2 is one of them. Just to bring it all back to the Orb (and on the subject of air/sky)... NP: LFC, Live 93 version (obvious choice, I know) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: FW: (orb) Cocksville & chicken sounds Date: 31 May 2001 13:40:43 -0700 > The Live '93 version of Spanish Castles In Space has this totally annoying > and overused donald duck vomit sound that's so annoying and totally takes > away from the track. Well, that's the chance you take doing stuff live, though. Sometimes stuff just doesn't come out quite right, or pleasing, for everyone. Obviously they could have "fixed" the recording later if they wanted, but they must've liked it or else wanted to keep it original. Who knows. At least they do stuff different than the album when they play out.... T PS - someone mentioned the pan flutes rampant in new age music. Well, big difference between ambient vs new age, that's for sure. Zappa referred to new age as "Newage," rhymes with "sewage." Pass it on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) I love Serge Gainsbourg (orb remix) Date: 31 May 2001 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Has anyone seen this? I just got it off napster, I then checked out the "I love Serge Gainsbourg" CD (On it's site) and indeed it IS a New orb track. One more new one folks... I'm spinnin -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: [(orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone!] Date: 31 May 2001 13:44:25 -0700 "Benjamin L. May" wrote: > > > If you can prove it is crbon dioxide, not MONOXIDE, which leads to global > > warming. If it's DIOXIDE, then we're all guilty by the very act of breathing. > > ;) > > Carbon Monoxide is not a stable molecule, I don't think. I mean, I > don't think it really lives long enough as such to get high enough into > the atmosphere to really cause any greenhouse-type damage. CO is more related to smog production. CO2 has not been proven to cause greenhouse effects - we have not been studying the climate long enough to determine whether our activities effect it or if we are just observing natural cycles. Same with the ozone hole. > And as far as breathing goes, that's just silly! :) Its a question > of degree; we release a TINY amount of CO2 in a day as compared to some > manufacturing processes. I wouldn't be so sure of that. There's a lot of people on the planet. Look at the output of methane by cows for example - quite measurable. Though not nearly as large as that from rice paddies. And we don't hear anyone advising people to quit growing rice.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 16:46:37 -0400 it doesn't really matter who you vote for anyways - you might as well write in yer own name... ::You can criticize President Bush all you want (*I* didn't vote ::for him) np - cocksville usa (but of course) and for the person that asked what the chicken sounds like - try doing a chicken sound and then try to sing like a chicken (if that really makes any sense)... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) I love Serge Gainsbourg (orb remix) Date: 31 May 2001 13:55:33 -0700 >Has anyone seen this? I just got it off napster, I then checked out the "I >love Serge Gainsbourg" CD (On it's site) and indeed it IS a New orb track. I'm sure JC would jump in here if he wasn't getting married right now! ;) There is a compilation called "I Love Serge" which contains *remixes* of Serge Gainsbourg (I have no idea who that is) songs. It just came out a few months ago, and its a really fabulous album. Other contributors include Howie B and Dzihan & Kamien. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) I love Serge Gainsbourg (orb remix) Date: 31 May 2001 16:30:15 -0500 Yep, we spoke about it when it came out a couple of months ago. Don Has anyone seen this? I just got it off napster, I then checked out the "I love Serge Gainsbourg" CD (On it's site) and indeed it IS a New orb track. One more new one folks... I'm spinnin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) live mp3 for trade Date: 31 May 2001 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Howdy y'all, I recently obtained an extra copy of most of the Orb's set from 5.4.97 at Henry J Kaiser Auditorium (mp3), does anyone want to trade for a burn of cydonia v2, mission '92, or ANY live set from 1995. E-mail me off this list, this is a great set and I'd love to share it with someone who hasn't heard it. BTW CO2 is definitely a stable molecule due to the resonance structures created by the delocalization of the carbon-oxygen double bond (can you tell I'm a dork?) If it wasn't stable plants would have a difficult time using it as starting material for photosynthesis! ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 16:07:41 -0700 > ===>Oh for God's sake.... If being an Orb fan requires buying into > the seriously misguide philosophy of ecofascism, then count > me out. Yup. Most environmentalists are actually anti-man when pressed (i.e. something like, "The Earth would be so much better without man on it." Thanks, I'll just nip off and shoot myself then...). Example - the environmentalists protesting the trade summit in Seattle a couple years ago - protesting capitalism and technology explicitly, yet using cell phones, laptops, and the Internet to organize their protests.... T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 19:24:32 -0400 heh. funny you mention that - i guess a video game about that is coming out soon... http://www.msnbc.com/news/580493.asp ::Example - the environmentalists protesting the trade summit ::in Seattle a ::couple years ago - protesting capitalism and technology ::explicitly, yet ::using cell phones, laptops, and the Internet to organize their ::protests.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oobe Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 18:41:59 -0500 TimC: I envy the simplicity of your thought process. It must be so much easier to go through life when you look at a huge portion of the population who share a common moral principle and lump them all into a group of nihlistic hypocrits using sophmoric stereotypes. Yeah, I wish I wasn't plagued with accepting reality instead of someone else's cynical mantra like you and Vince have. Fucking pathetic. -=oobe : ::Example - the environmentalists protesting the trade summit : ::in Seattle a : ::couple years ago - protesting capitalism and technology : ::explicitly, yet : ::using cell phones, laptops, and the Internet to organize their : ::protests.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) LX in Van? Date: 31 May 2001 18:28:32 -0700 Hey- Being on the digest version I only get to see the posts after a day or two. I was wondering if there has been any more word on the (un)appearance of the Dr. here in Vancouver tonight. I couldn't get out of work to return my tickets- so I think I'll still go and yell IMPOSTER through the whole set, but if there has been any more talk could someone fill me in? Thanks! np: Gavin''s Smartbar set : ( __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 20:42:28 -0500 I think the hypocrisy is more evident in your thoughts. You guys are the ones who lump everyone together. "For the good of all"; "For the good of the people"; etc... Who are you to tell me what's good for me? I will decide for myself. This isn't a moral principle at stake here here. This is the fundamental morality that man lives by that is threatened. You can tell me my thoughts are cynical, that I am simple-minded and selfish. I'll tell you: You are DAMNED right I'm selfish. I'm only cynical because you've all been brainwashed to think I'm wrong. Find me cold, hard, scientific evidence to prove me wrong, and maybe -- MAYBE -- I'll believe you then. A picture is not an argument, and an argument is NO good unless you have facts to back it up. Objectivity, people :) Flames!!! FLAMES!!!! -=brian=- > TimC: > > I envy the simplicity of your thought process. It must be so much easier to > go through life when you look at a huge portion of the population who share > a common moral principle and lump them all into a group of nihlistic > hypocrits using sophmoric stereotypes. Yeah, I wish I wasn't plagued with > accepting reality instead of someone else's cynical mantra like you and > Vince have. Fucking pathetic. > > -=oobe That, incidentally, is one NARROW-MINDED response :) Nothing but a little hypocrisy to make the day interesting!! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 21:49:23 -0400 Brian wrote: > You can tell me my thoughts are cynical, that I am simple-minded and > selfish. I'll tell you: You are DAMNED right I'm selfish. I'm only cynical > because you've all been brainwashed to think I'm wrong. this reminds me of a quote in a Snog booklet: "Cynical: A word used by the frightened to describe the realistic" I love snog... and umm.. to make this orb related, if you like orb (duh) you'd probably like Soma... (not somatic, or somasonic) (well, you might like that too) but Soma.. it's a side project from the guys that do Snog.. nice ambient stuff... very melodic.. -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oobe Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 31 May 2001 21:10:14 -0500 : : Flames!!! FLAMES!!!! Point #1: I have no time for a list who seems to desire nothing but starting flame wars. Point # 2: I said TimC and Vince specifically were guilty of using stereotypes to conviently lump everyone into a common pile of easily targeted "enemies". I guess I'll add you to there ilk, since you seem to be even worse at it than they are: :You guys are the : ones who lump everyone together. Who is "you guys". nice generalization, fuck face. :Who are you to tell me what's good for me? I'm not trying to tell you what's good for YOU. I'm trying to tell you what's good for OTHERS. I'm trying to keep assholes like yourself from fucking up the world for the benefit of myself and my children. People who live with abandon, wantonly polluting, wasting, without a care or second thought are the people that are the problem. :I will : decide for myself. Based on what, fuck face? :This isn't a moral principle at stake here here. This : is the fundamental morality that man lives by that is threatened. First, look up the word "morality" in your dictionary. Second, save your "they're coming for my guns and my freedoms!!" bullshit. Try living in Cuba or China and then let's talk about the limits on your freedoms, you disgusting piece of shit. : You can tell me my thoughts are cynical, that I am simple-minded and : selfish. I'll tell you: You are DAMNED right I'm selfish. Wow, such virtuous attributes. You must be proud. By the way, how's Rush Limbaugh doing these days? Tell him I said hello. : I'm only cynical : because you've all been brainwashed to think I'm wrong. Once again, "you all"... Another nice sweeping generalization based on stereotypes and paranoid delusions. God, you are a simple, stupid little man. :Find me cold, hard, : scientific evidence to prove me wrong, and maybe -- MAYBE -- I'll believe : you then. Scientific evidence about what you asshole?!! FUCK! YOU FUCKING PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT'S MY REPONSIBILITY TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE SHIT YOU ARE FUCKING UP! Geezus! Why don't you get off your bong-smoking, cheeto-munching, lazy candy ass and look up your own research, asshead? : A picture is not an argument, and an argument is NO good unless you have : facts to back it up. nice statement that came completely out of either left field or your ass... either way it has nothing to do with anything other than you trying (unsuccessfully) to make a witty metaphor. what a ridiculous turd burglar you are. :Objectivity, people :) Brian, you are a submental midget. Just shut the fuck up unless you have any idea what the fuck you are talking about. : That, incidentally, is one NARROW-MINDED : response :) Nothing but a little : hypocrisy to make the day interesting!! :) First, please try to point out what is a) narrow minded about it, and b) what remarks did I make that are hypocritical. Fucking dumbass. -=oobe-= : > TimC: : > : > I envy the simplicity of your thought process. It must be so much easier to : > go through life when you look at a huge portion of the population who share : > a common moral principle and lump them all into a group of nihlistic : > hypocrits using sophmoric stereotypes. Yeah, I wish I wasn't plagued with : > accepting reality instead of someone else's cynical mantra like you and : > Vince have. Fucking pathetic. : > : > -=oobe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emma-peel@canada.com Subject: (orb) Just got a digest/ LX flyer Date: 31 May 2001 19:15:00 -0700 Tee Hee. Of course, 5 minutes after I sent my last email I got a digest. I do have a flyer for the show tonight that most definitely says "In a very special rare performance...Dr. Alex Paterson of the Orb" (in orblivion font). On the back it says "As the driving force behind the Orb, quite possibly electronic music's most legendary band, the Dr. has decided to join us on our anniversary for a very special DJ set. He promises to deliver a 2.5 hour set of driving, funky, and deep progressive. The Dr. has not been in the north-west for years and will not be around for a long time after; be ready as well for an environment and visuals created completely by the Dr. himself. This is a once in a lifetime experience not to be missed for any reason." I'll scan it for evidence if anyone wants..... I actually never read this until now. Visuals?!?! And he will be back here in August for the Area One thing (unless that's a lie too). Oh well- $15 to go see a conman. A friend who works at a local shop that was selling tickets says the promoters are pretty trustworthy- maybe they were fooled too. It's for the one- year anniversary of a somewhat decent night that has seen Sven Vath and some other s (I'm not too into the 4/4 nights in this town, but I know there have been some other bigger names) There is someone flying here from Edmonton for the show- a couple of hundred dollars I'm sure. At least it's going to be sunny this weekend. I'll give a recap of tonight's events later. Oh yeah- and since I am digest I would appreciate any responses to go to this address so I can see them right away. Poop. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Baker Subject: (orb) Fake LX Date: 31 May 2001 23:09:36 -0400 (EDT) What the hell... that really, really, really sucks. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) greenhouse crappage Date: 01 Jun 2001 03:47:19 >Climate change President Bush recently announced that the United States Government will not honour its commitments under the 1997 Kyoto Protocol to reduce greenhouse gases.< "You can stick your moral standards...it's all a dirty lie."--Bon Scott And Agenda 21 while you're at it. --spearman waving flag that BUSH decided to vote for autonomy rather than the NWO (for once) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) more greenhouse crappage Date: 01 Jun 2001 04:01:53 >a huge portion of the population... [snerk] for a minute there I thought you had some sorta consensus --spearman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) crappage/what GOD said to the environmentalists Date: 01 Jun 2001 04:05:54 what GOD said to the environmentalists: "when you've finished-up eliminating all the non-native plants, you can go to work on the non-native peoples." --spearman (fed up with enviro/nonenviro crappage) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Re: (orb) crappage/what GOD said to the environmentalists Date: 01 Jun 2001 00:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Who are you, Spear Man, and why are you spamming the Orb list? ---- Jeff A Klein Bottle has zero volume, so we suggest that you do not use it as a personal flotation device. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse Date: 01 Jun 2001 00:07:17 -0500 ::Example - the environmentalists protesting the trade summit ::in Seattle a ::couple years ago - protesting capitalism and technology ::explicitly, yet ::using cell phones, laptops, and the Internet to organize their ::protests.... Actually, this is not at all what the environmentalists were protesting (well, perhaps there were a few idiots doing it). It was not a protest against capitlaism or technology. It was a protest against the WTO undermining regional environmental protection policies. Member nations of the WTO have to comply to certain trade policies that promote "fair trade" between third world and first world member countries. Many of these policies superceed the rights of local governments to make their own decisions about regional environmental and trade policies, rendering them powerless to do anything to prorect themselves from the onslaught of an emerging global consumerist economy. Please, I don't mean to sound like an ass or undermine anyone's opinion but if you have an opinion at least let it be an informed one. more info availible at www.gatt.org for anyone who is really interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) The funniest thing to happen on the list Date: 01 Jun 2001 00:16:50 -0500 this is so funny that I had to repost it: : : Flames!!! FLAMES!!!! Point #1: I have no time for a list who seems to desire nothing but starting flame wars. Point # 2: I said TimC and Vince specifically were guilty of using stereotypes to conviently lump everyone into a common pile of easily targeted "enemies". I guess I'll add you to there ilk, since you seem to be even worse at it than they are: :You guys are the : ones who lump everyone together. Who is "you guys". nice generalization, fuck face. :Who are you to tell me what's good for me? I'm not trying to tell you what's good for YOU. I'm trying to tell you what's good for OTHERS. I'm trying to keep assholes like yourself from fucking up the world for the benefit of myself and my children. People who live with abandon, wantonly polluting, wasting, without a care or second thought are the people that are the problem. :I will : decide for myself. Based on what, fuck face? :This isn't a moral principle at stake here here. This : is the fundamental morality that man lives by that is threatened. First, look up the word "morality" in your dictionary. Second, save your "they're coming for my guns and my freedoms!!" bullshit. Try living in Cuba or China and then let's talk about the limits on your freedoms, you disgusting piece of shit. : You can tell me my thoughts are cynical, that I am simple-minded and : selfish. I'll tell you: You are DAMNED right I'm selfish. Wow, such virtuous attributes. You must be proud. By the way, how's Rush Limbaugh doing these days? Tell him I said hello. : I'm only cynical : because you've all been brainwashed to think I'm wrong. Once again, "you all"... Another nice sweeping generalization based on stereotypes and paranoid delusions. God, you are a simple, stupid little man. :Find me cold, hard, : scientific evidence to prove me wrong, and maybe -- MAYBE -- I'll believe : you then. Scientific evidence about what you asshole?!! FUCK! YOU FUCKING PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT'S MY REPONSIBILITY TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE SHIT YOU ARE FUCKING UP! Geezus! Why don't you get off your bong-smoking, cheeto-munching, lazy candy ass and look up your own research, asshead? : A picture is not an argument, and an argument is NO good unless you have : facts to back it up. nice statement that came completely out of either left field or your ass... either way it has nothing to do with anything other than you trying (unsuccessfully) to make a witty metaphor. what a ridiculous turd burglar you are. :Objectivity, people :) Brian, you are a submental midget. Just shut the fuck up unless you have any idea what the fuck you are talking about. : That, incidentally, is one NARROW-MINDED : response :) Nothing but a little : hypocrisy to make the day interesting!! :) First, please try to point out what is a) narrow minded about it, and b) what remarks did I make that are hypocritical. Fucking dumbass. -=oobe-= : > TimC: : > : > I envy the simplicity of your thought process. It must be so much easier to : > go through life when you look at a huge portion of the population who share : > a common moral principle and lump them all into a group of nihlistic : > hypocrits using sophmoric stereotypes. Yeah, I wish I wasn't plagued with : > accepting reality instead of someone else's cynical mantra like you and : > Vince have. Fucking pathetic. : > : > -=oobe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) why hast thou forsaken me? Date: 01 Jun 2001 13:19:14 +0800 this is a test, as all my messages are just disappearing.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.