From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #53 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Friday, April 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 053 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:47:57 -0500 From: Pedram Subject: Re: (orb) Wedding Singer & some Orb in there somewhere... LiquidW wrote: > > im never gonna hesitate to ask ANYTHING to this list > again...................?adam sandler? :I "...fear causes hesitation, and hesitation causes your worst nightmare to come true..." Body, Point Break *Dies surfing a big wave at the end of the movie* :) - -- Pedram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Yasuda Subject: (orb) Re: Spherical CD >For you who are interested to obtain a copy please e-mail me. >Or for you Chicagoans, you can pick it up at the following record stores. > >Reckless Records >Armaggedon's >Evil Clown Just caught the thread in the middle, but I'm interested in checking the CD out next time I hit Reckless. Could someone repost full info on the CD? Title, label, etc....? Thanks, Ken kyasuda@ecn.purdue.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:06:16 -0800 From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Trainspotter. On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 03:42:41PM -0500, Pedram wrote: > > >The story could have been at any time and it wouldn't have changed all that much. > > Story? A loser that gets dumped by his fianci and falls in love with > another man's fianci? Power Rangers has more of a story line. C'mon > man, you didn't notice that the entire movie revolved around the 80's > and its satirization? Nope didn't see it. Basically walked in the movie with the intent to see a brain dead movie. Resulting analysis of characters and story line reflect this quite well. ;) Peace, love, and The Orb. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:45:24 EST From: Vagrant970 Subject: Re: (orb) Trainspotter. Hello, In the DJ world, a "trainspotter" is someone who is constantly looking to see what record you're spinning. DJ's take great pride in obtaining the rare grooves..and many times don't want their secrets let out. I guess a lot of it comes with egos. But when you spend days digging in the crates for rare grooves, you don't want lazy suckas stealing your beats. And to the guy who thought "phat" was the "ebonic" spelling of "fat," you're tripping. It has nothing to do with ebonics. It's just a form slang that stems from the hip hop culture. Just like I'm sure that back in your days you used the hip slang for that era. For example: "This grass sure makes me feel groovey." Or...."Cool it daddy O." So please refrain from mocking a form of slang you don't use, or don't understand. Thanks... Peace(universal slang) Alex aka RANDOM1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 98 20:00:41 From: "Mark Waelterman" Subject: Re: (orb) Trainspotter. On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:42:41 -0500, Pedram wrote: > >Steve Shah wrote: > >> It had nothing to do with the 80's. > >It had everything to do with the 80's. Other than the soundtrack and >80's nostalgia, that movie had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Adam >has been funny before ( e.g. Billy Madison ), but this movie was by no >means a crowning achievement for him. I'd say aside from the fat Aunt Jemima black woman maid, Billy Madison was pretty dumb.. *shrug* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:22:11 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) latest orb news... mornin' all. latest news, courtesy of Clare at the orb's management company= ... 1. There has been an Orb gig advertised in Japan/Tokyo for 9th May - this i= s not happening, and never was!!! However, Andy will be playing with ANESTHE= SIA who are correctly billed to play. Sorry for any confusion but the promoters took it upon themselves to advertise The Orb. DATES FOR ORBSTERS DIARY - in no particular order 2. Le Petit Orb are playing at The Falcon, Camden this Friday with Sherman = and Dj Lewis on the decks - kicks off at 7.30pm and finishes 11.00pm (pub times= ) tickets =A36/=A37 3. LX will be Dj'ing at The Powerhaus on Saturday 9th May for TOMS FUND - i= t's a charity gig, so your support will be much appreciated - also on the bill = is Zion Train and special DJ guests. Watch out for adverts in the NME & Melody Maker for further details. 4. Watch out for Le Petit Orb in Italy - Bologna @ LINK 2nd May 1998 and LX will be DJ'ing at Barfly, Ancona on the 3rd. 5. MAY 16 - ATOMIC - Tyson Street Studios - Dalston for a chill out set. 6. MAY 8 - Moles, Bath 7. APRIL 17 - Pelican Club, Stroud Also, a band to look out for AMOEBA ASSASSIN will be playing at; Moles, Bath - FRIDAY 24th APRIL Pelican Club, Stroud - SATURDAY 25th APRIL They will be releasing their debut single entitled 'Rollercoaster' on Perfe= cto Records in June - Be warned!! This is a little plug for the band that Clare manages - which Andy H introd= uced her to several years ago... over and out... - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:55:33 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: Re: (orb) new album! Catinosboy writes: > Smiley is a MOTHERFUCKER................. :) but if anyone on the Orbital > list does this, I'll sure as hell be prepared!! err....am i missing something here....? confused as to what i'm supposed to have done... - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:03:57 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: RE: (orb) new album! John Goelzer writes: > BTW Smiley, is there any word of Terminus et. al. ever *really* being > released? not afaik. the only thing to survive those sessions was Terminus, which has been played live, and was mooted to be heading for a movie soundtrack. dunno how far down the line that got though. btw, andy - where are ya? speak to me... l8rs. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:04:23 -0500 From: finaiddir@alpha.sfcpa.edu (The Nightfly) Subject: (orb) April Fools and such I was at my dad's house last night, when that Volkswage commercial came on. He thought it was "really neat".... I don't know if he was referring to the color shifting, the music, or both.... I gave him a brief history of the Orb and all. BTW, why exactly DID they eliminate LeVar Burton's voice? HIS voice sounded a lot better than whoever is doing it now.... I mean, he says the exact same thing, for crying out loud. AND, speaking of April Fools Day.... Does anyone have the email address to Comedy Central??? (I don't have internet access, so I can't access their home page.) The anticipated revealing of who Cartman's father is was upstaged by the words, "APRIL FOOL!", and the ENTIRE show was Terrance and Phillip--the two LEAST funny characters from South Park. "Ohmygod! They killed my interest in South Park! You bastards!!!" ;) Comedy Centrals gonna get majorly flamed over THIS one, I'm sure.... Vince (disappointed, to say the least....) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:36:43 +0100 From: Lee Subject: (orb) Re: orb-digest V2 #52 Whoever wrote down the "lyrics" to salt obviously cannot understand a scowser accent....i bet you're american aren't you? It's just "a poxy pork pie"...oh shite, i can't be arsed to correct you... Pulsating Brain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:56:34 GMT From: Smiley Subject: (orb) textures limited vinyl editions... me (the motherfucker, apparently) again.... i MIGHT be able to get my hands on a few copies of the limited to 1000 (?) copies double vinyl edition of the TEXTURES album with mixes by LX and Darren Emerson. it comes in a plain white sleeve, with a sticker. the records are white labels. as i say, i MIGHT be able to get some - BUT, BUT, BUT - i don't know how many i can get. however, i've been told that if there are any, they'll be 10 UKP each. afaik, they are unplayed. postage and packing outside europe should be 5-6 UKP approx. email me for costs within europe. if anybody wants a copy, drop me a line. i'll get as many copies as i can, and dish them out to people in the order that i get emails from them asking for a copy. first-come, first-served, in other words.... l8r. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:13:08 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: SALT lyrics Lee writes: > Whoever wrote down the "lyrics" to salt obviously cannot understand a > scowser accent....i bet you're american aren't you? and you can't tell the difference between a Macunian accent and a Liverpudlian accent either - the character is from Manchester. i'm impressed that anyone outside the uk can understand it - it's hard enough working it out when your from england... l8r. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:57:37 -0800 From: Ryan Platte Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb-digest V2 #52 >Whoever wrote down the "lyrics" to salt obviously cannot understand a >scowser accent....i bet you're american aren't you? now how would you have guessed that? yes, my transcribing friend and i are good old fashioned bible belt americans. >It's just "a poxy pork pie"...oh shite, i can't be arsed to correct you... >Pulsating Brain thanks for the correction tho... ryan, wishing he weren't in indiana.... :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:37:56 EST From: Catinosboy Subject: (orb) the motherfucker jibe OK- I am COMPLETELY sorry for the mis-read- I thought Smiley sent the April Fool's joke- and I was just joking at that, hence the little happy face after I said "motherfucker".....I didn't mean any maliciousness whatsoever, and I certainly didn't mean to accuse the wrong guy. Sorry! Brent Catinosboy@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:35:24 -0500 From: finaiddir@alpha.sfcpa.edu (The Nightfly) Subject: (orb) Lazlo's Hey, what's the web address for Lazlo's discography. I've got to do some research on the internet tonight for the class I'm taking this semester, and I figured I'd waste some time while I was on it, and check out the discography again.... And while I'm at it, can anyone out there get me a copy of the 2nd Peel Sessions (the one with No Fun and OOBE) for around $15 U.S.??? I'm about to have some one burn a copy for me, but I'd rather have an original. I'm not willing to spend more than $15, since I know it's still out there for that price. Any help? Anyone? Anyone? :) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:15:29 -0500 From: Keith Reinert Subject: Re: (orb) new album! damn you! :P i fell for that until i saw the url hahahahah keith m reinert | icq# 4485538 | keith@iamlost.com pgp public key avail upon request # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:39:51 EST From: LiquidW Subject: (orb) SALT RESPONSE... this is what i got back from a friend "not" on the orb list , i had sent her a copy of the s.a.l.t lyrics.......please dont be offended........ Son, where did they feed you all that bullshit? At the University? Figures, with all them goddamn liberals and communists and metaphysical transcendental horsepuke. "Mankind that evolves into a species of pure thought" - my ass. You know what we'll be if all of those horny greedy sweaty fuckers sitting pretty in their nice leather chairs press the button? Dead. Yessirree Bob. Dead. No angels, no bibles, no freakin trumpets calling you home. Just six feet of dirt to keep you warm and cozy- if there's anyone left to bury you. Now as for that barcode six-six-six drivel- where did you read that? On the back of some Beatles album? They'll have to get over the landmines and look straight down my sawed-off before they stick a barcode on my forehead, for fuck all. Wormwood and Chernobyl, eh? Big coincidence, eh? Let me tell you something-- you go around quoting bible shit like that and you put yourself in the same class as those goddamn door-to-door-funny-underwear-wearing-mindless-stumbling-mumbling-bible- quoting-freaks who don't have one sentence of goddamn independent thought between all of them. Shit. Planets lined up in a cross? What the hell significance is that supposed to have? You goddamn Christians think you rule the world. Suppose Pluto and Your-Anus line up and look like a fucking Hare Krishna... What then? And in conclusion, son, don't try to make the goddamn end of the world into anything more significant that us fucking ourselves up the ass, is all. Until then, those barcode stamping mutherfuckers will just have to come up here to the land of zero kelvin and FIND ME. I dare them. (orbies:the land of zero kelvin is "alaska") shes got me convinced...imgonna buy me a shotgun , to add to my sig collection.... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:22:20 -0800 From: Ryan Platte Subject: Re: (orb) SALT RESPONSE... this is quite funny, as the orb has quite nothing to do with religion... read some interviews, the auntie aubrey's booklet...SALT may be trying to send a message, but salvation ain't it. can you imagine the orb spreading the gospel? for that show, i'd pay full admission! (think live 93's LFC intro?!?!?) actually the orb has helped cure me of some really nasty dogma i'd had in my system...but maybe don't try to tell your dear friend that. :/ ah well. ryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:56:49 -0500 From: Pedram Subject: Re: (orb) Trainspotter. > And to the guy who thought "phat" was the "ebonic" spelling of "fat," > you're tripping. >It has nothing to do with ebonics. It's just a form slang that stems from the hip hop culture. That's an absurd claim considering that ebonics/African American Vernacular has a strong presence in hip hop culture. What aspect of hip hop culture does your notion of slang stem from then, if not ebonic lyrics? > Just like I'm sure that back in your days you used the hip slang for that era. For example: "This grass sure makes me > feel groovey." Or...."Cool it daddy O." I'm not sure what you mean by "back in your days". Perhaps your referring to my late childhood & teens? If so, that would be the early to mid 80's, when people were break dancing and "fresh" was used instead of "phat." >So please refrain from mocking a form of slang you don't use, or don't understand. There is nothing to understand. Different words are being used for the same concepts, except it's "dope" to employ some ridiculous spelling. If I've offended you, I apologize; however I will not refrain from expressing my opinions "juss 'cuz ya don' be likin' ma style." A'ite G? peace \peace\, n. [OE. pees, pais, OF. pais, paiz, pes, F. paix, L. pax, pacis, akin to pacere, paciscere, pacisci, to make an agreement, and prob. also pangere to fasten. Cf. {Appease}, {Fair}, a., {Fay}, v., {Fang}, {Pacify}, {Pact}, {Pay} to requite.] A state of quiet or tranquillity; freedom from disturbance or agitation; calm; repose; specifically: (a) Exemption from, or cessation of, war with public enemies. (b) Public quiet, order, and contentment in obedience to law. (c) Exemption from, or subjection of, agitating passions; tranquillity of mind or conscience. (d) Reconciliation; agreement after variance; harmony; concord. ``The eternal love and pees.'' --Chaucer. - -- Pedram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:04:57 -0500 From: Pedram Subject: Re: (orb) Trainspotter. Steve Shah wrote: > Nope didn't see it. Basically walked in the movie with the intent to > see a brain dead movie. Resulting analysis of characters and story > line reflect this quite well. ;) *lol*, and that it was. Come to think of it, that's pretty much describes most of the movies I've seen in last few months ( brain-dead, that is :] ). Peace, love, and all that good stuff :> Pedram -- in search of the ultimate Orbasm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:01:32 -0500 From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: (orb) re: textures I have that textures disc, and it's not THAT great. Alex's disc is better than Darren's, but both seem to get a bit hundrum and repetitive after a while. Plus it sounds like it was recorded in mono.... james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:57:08 -0600 From: Rob Chauncey Subject: Re: (orb) SALT analysis Ryan Platte wrote: > > ...SALT may be trying to send a message, but salvation ain't it. > > can you imagine the orb spreading the gospel? for that show, i'd pay full > admission! (think live 93's LFC intro?!?!?) *'hem* I think they *are* spreading the gospel. Just not Christian gospel. See, there is for certain a theological bent to Orb's music, and the theme of transformation out of the physical world and/or existence of worlds in/around this one occurs multiple times (cf. o.o.b.e [noosphere, the world of objective contents of thought], Earth (Gaia) [that lovely piece about drinking wine of vineyards]). Ryan continues: > the orb has helped cure me of some really nasty dogma i'd had in > my system... A similar experience for me. As I was leaving my Christian viewpoint (the Renunciation, I call it *laugh*), the Orb was one of many real world confirmations that I was making the right choice by externalizing in music and samples views that I was projecting. Some examples of Orb's gospel: The intro into Live '93s LFC is a wry raised eyebrow at the religion of Science -- turning a man into part-machine is a solution to the problem of inner pain. Ricky Lee Jones and the music of LFC is a more real way of inner healing, using inner joy, memories and music. As for S.A.L.T, it relates to 'millennial fever', and is an attack on the (largely American led) fifteen-minute trends and the sell-your-soul attitude as well as an allegory into the futility of Western society's rapacious materialistic lifestyle *whew*. Orb's characteristic cryptic responses to press requests fits into this as the telly/newspapers/magazines are the rallying cry for the continued sapping of the earth's resources. Albumwise, transformation/transmigration of this society is, effectively, the release of tension from S.A.L.T into Toxygene. LX is planting seeds of a spiritual rebellion, essentially . . . :) If you're at all eschatological in your spiritual viewpoint (I certainly am and I assume Mr. Patterson is), this kind of thing is very attractive. Meld with this Orb's listenability and danceability and you've got a tasty cocktail for the spirit (or entelechy, really, since body/emotion are a large part of the effect :). Rob, Interpreter and Reader-Into-Things P.S. If you're thinking of responding saying "How can you say what Alex & co. are intending?" I have a clever art-historian response to that, too.-r # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:50:18 -0600 From: Rob Chauncey Subject: Re: (orb) SALT analysis [Sorry to post twice, but Ryan was so quick on the uptake that I had to respond. Whereever necessary, you can substitute 'music' or 'orb's music' for 'art'] Ryan Platte wrote: > > hey, Rob, "How can you say what Alex & co. are intending?" > > clever is as clever does, is it not? Indeed. Well, it has to do with art. Each piece of art has three components: artist intention, audience response, and an elusive quality that is only of the art piece itself and is detached from the artist & audience. Now, as Frank Zappa put it, the most important part of art is the Frame: it is the part that says where the art piece ends and the real world begins. Once the artist "frames" his or her work, the intention of the artist ceases to be a factor in the art piece itself. Actually, it's *the* factor in the creation, but a piece changes in time after creation, and the intent of the artist isn't a motivator for that change. The only reason that artist intent would arise as a question would be from (you guessed it) audience curiosity (response). Now, since the art piece is framed, we have only two approaches. How you and I personally react to one piece of art is one (very valid) approach, but gets terribly complicated because of the varied sources of emotional responses that art provokes. The other is a sort of archaeological method -- look at the layers of what's going on, examine then in the context of the piece itself, examine the piece in its temporal context and to try and step between the artist and audience and see what motivates them to reach toward one another. With practice, the seeker may get a taste of the quality that is of the art piece alone, and then can self-righteously expound on what he or she thinks :) To concretize, let's take S.A.L.T. as an example: the context is in a fully-realized continuous album by an experienced ambient/techno band. However, the song itself is a departure from that band's typical style. It's a hint to look on the flip-side of what's common for them. Since Orb's usual subject matter is of paradise, celestial audio imagery and travelling, looking at the stagnant baser aspects of earth might be a good start. The piece itself? Temporal context? Well, look around us: we've got all this apocalyptic bullshit going on (ARMAGEDDON, coming soon to a theater near you), people are still consuming like it's the eighties, pollution, overpopulation, Paula Jones etc. etc. etc. That one's the easy part. Getting between Alex and Orb fans is a bit more of a mind-bender, though. There is something that separates Orb fans from those who are garden-variety techno-hounds -- we're looking for the purple and red and on fire, the bumping blue rooms and the ultraworld (well, beyond it, actually). If not conciously (or spiritually), then in musical taste. Alex happens to be a human being who is particularly talented at conveying that particular impulse through music, and therein lies the reach between artist and audience. If you look at the whole of these concepts, ideally while listening to the piece, well, you might come up with something similar to what I was babbling about in the last message. Accepting the music as a portent to spiritual transmigration, well, that's just me. I'm into that kind of thing *laugh* Peace, Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:15:42 -0800 From: John_Robertson@cc.chiron.com Subject: (orb) RE : latest orb news... Also, for those bods around San Francisco we have : Saturday, April 11st - Choice SF presents The Gathering Tony, Josh, Jeno, "Slam" Stuart McMillan (Glasgow, Scotland), Orde Meikle (No So Thumps), Alex Patterson (the Orb), Nick Philip, Joe Rice. E.S.W.H./E.S.C.L./E.S.D.S./H.O.B.M./H.O.M.E./C.A.N. 415.905.8888 415.522.3994 Yaaaaay !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:21:35 -0500 From: Pedram Subject: Re: (orb) SALT analysis Robert Chauncy wrote: >LX is planting seeds of a spiritual rebellion, essentially . . . :) To me, LX is a creative techno-dubber with a talent for "sonifying" the surreal. Trancedentalist... ok; excessive reefer smoker... probably; but spiritual rebel... that escapes me. "The youth of America on L-S-D"... see what I mean? - -- Pedram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:52:58 -0500 From: matthew glidden Subject: (orb) the orb audio archive experiment as some of you know, the orb audio archive has had problems...for a long time. this was mainly due to server/ISP issues, and (sometimes) beyond our control. anyway, those days are hopefully gone. you can now download most of the songs formerly housed on the oaa, along with many new songs (some that i made fresh, and many from Dan LeBoeuf's fine ftp site). you can visit the site at: http://theorb.ml.org/mp3/ unfortunately we haven't been able to update the html, so you won't be able to see that nice interface you all know and love, but the songs are there. (for the record, the pages are being worked on, and hopefully will be ready....sometime). it's organized by album, so if you can't find what you're looking for, check another directory. i was going to wait and tell people once the pages are updated, but i continue to be deluged by mail from people reporting problems with downloading mp3's from the oaa (although probably most of them aren't on the list) so i wanted to let people download stuff since it *is* available. a brief sidenote for people who weren't around when the orb audio archive actually existed; our goal through the site is providing rare/out-of-print orb songs in mp3 format for people to download and enjoy. (also, if you spot anything you don't think belongs there, please mail me and i will remove it) the server is hosted by an anonymous donator, who has given up several hundred megs of space. hopefully this will allow us to expand even further (if you have material that is not on the archive, and you have the ability to make mp3's please mail me. we are especially looking for live bootleg concerts). having been given this great amount of space has allowed us to present these songs in a high-quality format, however this makes some of the files quite large (a bit less than one megabyte per minute of music). if you have a slow or unreliable connection, but still want songs from the archive, i would suggest using a download tool, such as GetRight (http://www.headlightsw.com/getright.html) which allows you to resume failed downloads. this makes getting files such as the Patterns & Textures soundtrack (over 46 megs) a bit easier. this is already a huge post, so i will continue (so far, there have been no Wedding Singer mentionings;) ... i have been hanging out a bit on EFNet (IRC) in the channel #theorb i take no responsibility for the conversation there (sometimes IRC gets a little rowdy), but i am an op so complain and someone will cut it out. there aren't a whole lot of people there, but if you want some orb conversation, that's a decent place to look. i will say one more thing; i got my Spherical: tribute to the orb cd in the mail yesterday. as people have said, the packaging rules, and the music's pretty cool too. for 10 bux, it's definitely worth it. thanks. sergio. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:52:09 -0800 From: rachel@ironlight.com (rachel) Subject: (orb) Spherical wow! i just finished listening to all the tracks of the Spherical comp, and i have to say, i'm really impressed! not only at the professional quality of the disc, but the true orbiness of the tracks! (and here's hoping a copy will eventually make its way to LX and Andy) big fat pat on the back for everyone involved! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:21:13 EST From: BluRoom Subject: Re: (orb) Lazlo's In a message dated 98-04-02 13:44:43 EST, finaiddir@alpha.sfcpa.edu writes: << And while I'm at it, can anyone out there get me a copy of the 2nd Peel Sessions (the one with No Fun and OOBE) for around $15 U.S.??? I'm about to have some one burn a copy for me, but I'd rather have an original. I'm not willing to spend more than $15, since I know it's still out there for that price. Any help? Anyone? Anyone? :) >> I've seen a few copies of this at the local Border's book store - if there's one around you, maybe they'll have it too..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:20:06 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Depeche Mode vs. Orb A few people asked me for a track listing on the Depeche Mode World in My Eyes: Mute LCDBONG20. I've been quite busy, so it's taken me a while just to remember to bring it to work with me. 1. World in My Eyes: Dub in My Eyes by Francois Kevorkian 2. World in My Eyes: Mode to Joy by Jon Marsh 3. Happiest Girl: Pulsating Orbital Vocal mix by the Orb 4. Sea of Sin: Sensoria by Francois Kevorkian 5. World in My Eyes: Mayhem Mode by Jon Marsh 6. Happiest Girl: Jack Mix by Francois Kevorkian The cover art for this is pretty lame. There's a picture in Auntie Aubrey's Excursions..., but if you want a scan of it I can make one available. Regards, Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." B.Banner DONALD D GAGEN DGAGEN@ENSEMBLE-STUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 21:41:00 -0500 From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orb) Spherical rachel wrote: > > wow! i just finished listening to all the tracks of the Spherical comp, and > i have to say, i'm really impressed! not only at the professional quality > of the disc, but the true orbiness of the tracks! (and here's hoping a copy > will eventually make its way to LX and Andy) > > big fat pat on the back for everyone involved! > > =) > rachel Could someone hook me up with some info on this comp ? Thanks ROB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:55:16 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: Re: (orb) Spherical rachel writes: > wow! i just finished listening to all the tracks of the Spherical comp, and > i have to say, i'm really impressed! not only at the professional quality > of the disc, but the true orbiness of the tracks! (and here's hoping a copy > will eventually make its way to LX and Andy) let's just say that Sean and I have already got this worked out.... ;-) l8rs. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:04:01 GMT From: Smiley Subject: (orb) Smiley need to raise some cash... okay...as my girlfriend has just decided that i'm gonna have to spend huge amounts of money on some work on our house, i need to raise some cash. much as i hate to do this, i'm gonna have to auction off the following: Keiichi Suzuki 'Satellite Serenade'/Electrot'ete 'I Love You' 1992 UK 12" (WAU!MrModo SUZUKI 1) ** BLUE VINYL PROMO, x360** a. Satellite Serenade (trans asian express) b. I Love You (orb remix) [suzuki version] * * This VERY RARE promo has a remix of Electrot'ete's "I Love You" on the B- side instead of the 7" and ambient satellite mixes of Satellite Seranade. However, it's NOT the same remix as the one on the Apollo Ambient compilation. minimum bid: 10 UKP. postage and packing is extra, add will add 4 UKP outside europe. emails to me, please (not the list). i'm not around until monday now, so i'll get back to anyone interested next week... have a good weekend one and all. l8r. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Latest Orb info: http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html -- look here first! ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #53 ************************