From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #87 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Thursday, July 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 087 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:24:00 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... The reason the author was shot down was *appearantly* because he had initiated a sale of some Orb CD and never managed to send the disc -- many months after the check was cashed. In regards to the fellow who posted an apology for posting his forsale lists, again, it appeared he was asked not to do that multiple times -- even by Lazlo. After a certain point you gotta wonder about the guy... On Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 07:54:27PM -0700, holli wrote: > This is supposed to be a fun discussion list, and within reason should > allow people to freely express themselves.... We're not re-writing the > Dead Sea Scrolls, or being judged by a jury of our peers.... we're > discussing music we all love. Please, for the love of God - if other > people's posts upset you so much - take a valium and get a life. Very much agreed. This is the only non-work/research related mailing list I'm still on simply because things are very mellow around here. (Try listening to one of the raves mailing lists to hear 80 posts of ranting a day...) I'm sure things will naturally cool down and resume normal curiosities about the Orb and their goings on. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:17:31 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... holli wrote: > > I'm so embarrassed that someone new posted an enthusiastic and sweet > message and was shot down so hatefully.... and I also think it's > ridiculous that about half of all messages posted here are opened with > an apology in case the person says something wrong, or asks a question > that was asked a year ago.... and yeah, I know you're supposed to read > the archived messages to make sure you're not asking a question that's > been asked before, but give me a fucking break - who has the time or > patience to do that... A careful reading of the "hateful" post would seem to indicate a trade gone at least temporarily awry. While the venom wasn't necessary (yet), things like that *should* be brought up...public embarassment does wonders to get people moving. (Although the poster could certainly have been more clear.) I really don't think that it is asking too much that people read the FAQ and peruse the discography before posting. Between them, they answer most of the obvious questions. (Imagine, a FAQ doing that!) :) > This is supposed to be a fun discussion list, and within reason should > allow people to freely express themselves.... We're not re-writing the > Dead Sea Scrolls, or being judged by a jury of our peers.... we're > discussing music we all love. Please, for the love of God - if other > people's posts upset you so much - take a valium and get a life. Or, throw on Ultraworld... ;) Chris P.S. Someone on the list mentioned seeing FFWD starting to appear in the stores again in the UK...has anyone else noticed this, and are any of you willing to pick me up a copy on CD? (I'm willing to trade US product or pay for it.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:20:01 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) 3 CDs for sale Mike Bailey wrote: > > >Checks can easily take more than 2 weeks to clear...if you have the > >wrong set of circumstances and bank policies. > > I'd say, find another bank! The last three banks I've used in the last 5 > years said $100 available the first day, $500-$1000 available after seven > days. I assume it's pretty standard? Nope. Bank policies vary wildly...and it isn't just your bank...it is the other bank(s) that your bank has to deal with, as well as vagaries of time, date, and human error. > I still want to hear where the free money orders are coming from. They aren't usually free...but even the more expensive International/Postal Money Orders aren't all that much. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:17 PDT From: "Joseph Hannah" Subject: (orb) Special Request From The DJ Booth......................................... I need somebody who has a laser scanner and the Little Fluffy Clouds C.D. - 5 4 track version. Email me privately for an interesting proposition... "See the Sun ... It's this special kind of ORB...." "Rain, Rain, go away .... Come again some other Day." Joe from the wetlands in FL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:05:18 PDT From: "Joseph Hannah" Subject: (orb) for sale / trade espescially (especial) ORB 1 Japanese Import : The Y.M.O. Technodon Remixes II Send offers of similar imported ( uh, I live in America ) ORB memorobillia; preferably compact discs that are long play singles or E.P.'s or ORB VS. "_____________" JOHANNAH33@HOTMAIL.COM/ Bien venidos, Chau, y Eran alege en tu semana! Jose de Florida ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: jose f pabon coe stnt Subject: (orb) PD for trade I have a PD 12" 5 track. I want to get rid of this since i really don't like vinyl. If anyone would like this and has something Orb to offer in trade let me know. The record is in excellent shape, i only played it once to make a tape. The cover is in good shape, but has a small tear on the bind where the title reads. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:20:15 +1000 From: Turbo Subject: (orb) LX Downunder The ever-wonderful Smiley posted the following: > AUSTRALIA > > 29 July MELBOURNE - Revolver > > 31 July MELBOURNE - Revolver > > 1 Aug SYDNEY - The DOme, Foxtel Studios, Darlinghurst > Alex: 1am > > ALL DATES WILL ALSO FEATURE LOCAL DJ'S > Times and venue are correct as of 14 July 1998 Shame about the Sydney event clashing with the DJ appearance of Claude Young at the Metro put on by Artcore and well advertised. Haven't heard a peep of what's going down at the old showgrounds with Alex. Can you get anymore info on the Sydney gig, as it would be appreciated. Thanks, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:22:19 +0200 From: Stephan.Hesse@ALGEMEEN.MGIM.WAU.NL Subject: (orb) ...no subject... Dear Music Lovers! Again a new face from cyberspace to join the mailing list! I recently came across your mailing list, and since I'm a huge Orber I had no choice but to join it. I have loved their music for some years now, and I have had the pleasure of seeing them live at the Pinkpop festival last year in Holland (which is where I come from) right after System 7. An awesome experience! I used to listen a lot to electro/industrial, e.g. Skinny Puppy (they're also from Vancouver, Zed!), Front 242, Ministry, Godflesh etc. But I guess I have become a bit mellower (we also grow great weed here in Holland, Zed!) which I don't mean in a negative way! The audio sculptures and musical landscapes of LX and co. are overwhelmingly beautiful, and represent the best in electronic music, I think. But of course you guys already know that! Other favourites are, as said, System 7, Sun Electric, Subsurfing (made only 1 cd, unfortunately) and the so called "intelligent techno" from the WARP-label (autechre, plaid, boards of canada, LFO). Check it out if you're not familiar with it yet! I hope I will not cause as much disturbance as some people who introduced themselves with a huge number of Orb cd's, which I don' have (yet?). Besides the regular stuff you can buy in the shops, I have some more or less rare material (Icons of the Orb, Morphology, Sentinel cds, Kiss EP). I have followed the list a few days now before introducing myself, and I must say that a lot of interesting things are being offered for sale or trade. I have a friend who can make digital copies (so from disc to disc) with a cd-writer, without any loss of quality. He also neatly scans the inlay booklet, leaving you with a nearly perfect copy of the original (FFWD?). However, you're discussion lately about various ways of payment and their dis- and advantages, things getting lost in the mail or even cons and crooks has made me a bit reserved! But I'm glad to join the family, and maybe I can even make a sensible contribution... Many greetinx from Steph...(no confusing nickname) P.S.: are there any people on this list from Holland or its surroundings? It may be nice to get in touch with other (nearby) Orbers! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:36:16 EST5EDT From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... . Please, for the love of God - if other > people's posts upset you so much - take a valium and get a life. > > : ( holli > ===>Or better yet, a morphin drip.... ;-) - --Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:19:21 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... On Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 06:17:31PM -0700, Chris Johnson wrote: > A careful reading of the "hateful" post would seem to indicate a trade > gone at least temporarily awry. While the venom wasn't necessary (yet), > things like that *should* be brought up...public embarassment does > wonders to get people moving. (Although the poster could certainly have > been more clear.) I agree. I don't have a problem with people calling out other list members in public for (suspected) bad trades but just laying into someone is flat out against the rules of the list. If you can't say it in a reasonable straightforward, sensible, and polite way, say it in private email. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:13:18 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... The reason the author was shot down was *appearantly* because he had initiated a sale of some Orb CD and never managed to send the disc -- many months after the check was cashed. In regards to the fellow who posted an apology for posting his forsale lists, again, it appeared he was asked not to do that multiple times -- even by Lazlo. After a certain point you gotta wonder about the guy... I am I to understand that we are not allowed to post personal sale or trade items to the list, or is moderation the key here. I know in the past I have posted sale and want lists in the past and I was never told not to do so. Half the fun of this list is being able trade and buy music from people all over the world. Regards, Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:28:18 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... On Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 11:13:18AM -0500, Don Gagen wrote: > I am I to understand that we are not allowed to post personal sale or > trade items to the list, or is moderation the key here. I know in the > past I have posted sale and want lists in the past and I was never told > not to do so. Half the fun of this list is being able trade and buy > music from people all over the world. Moderation -- and some common sense. A common thing I've seen is if someone has a long for-sale list or a want list, they post it to a web page and leave a pointer for us to go to. Those of us who are interested in a trade or sale will go and see it, those of us who aren't ignore it. If no one is buying your for-sale item, backing off for a while is the logical thing to do. Given the traffic of this list, it is fair to say that we don't get a lot of new subscribers every week. It probably makes sense to wait about a month before even reconsidering. Finally, it's just good form to be honest in a sale. The person should send the money (on a check that DOESN'T BOUNCE) and the seller should send the cd when the money is received. (If the seller wants to wait for the check to clear, he/she should state so up front so the buyer doesn't wonder why things are taking so long.) Have we beaten this topic enough? ;) Actually, I'm kinda glad it came out and got discussed. Keep the anger down. Besides, I'm not used to civilized discussions of this sort on non-work related mailing lists. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:40:35 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... On Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 11:13:18AM -0500, Don Gagen wrote: >> In regards to the fellow who posted an apology for posting his forsale >> lists, again, it appeared he was asked not to do that multiple times -- >> even by Lazlo. After a certain point you gotta wonder about the guy... > > I am I to understand that we are not allowed to post personal sale or > trade items to the list, or is moderation the key here. I don't have a problem with sale/trade messages on the list, as long as things don't get too out of hand. I do think that if you're getting to the point where you're posting stuff every day or two maybe you should set up a web page and just let us know where it is. The official word from the list info file says: > The list is not meant to be used as an advertising forum, though short > notices of the form "I have for sale; please email > me for a full list" are acceptable as long as the items for sale are > directly relevant to the topic of the mailing list. but generally things around here are a little looser than that. Nate Udel was a special case. I didn't ask him to stop posting sale/trade stuff to the list, I asked him to stop using the list to offer to tape off his Orb CDs for people at five bucks a pop. This was a little over a year ago and didn't have anything to do with his recent postings. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:38:12 -0600 From: "Ryan Taylor" Subject: Re: (orb) unknown compilation > From: Zed6and789@aol.com > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) unknown compilation > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 2:16 PM > However, there is a best of compilation of all the compilations (sounds weird eh?) > called "Wasted" that has a remix of back side of the moon (I think - don't > have the discs w/ me). It also has the original version of the reefer song. > I don't listen to it often, so I guess I can put it up for trade if anybody is > interested. Unfortunately, I don't have the track listing to post, but= I will > still accept offers. Maybe another post will be needed. >=20 > -Pete Wasted: The Best of Volume, Part 1 CD 1 1)The Orb: Reefer Spin In The Galaxy 2)Cabaret Voltaire: Low Cool 3)One Dove: Fallen 4)Bjork: One Day 5)The Shamen: Hyperreal 6)Pop Will Eat Itself: Bulletproof 7)The Grid: Cybernetic 8)System 7: Miracle(Orb Mix) 9)Underworld: Why Why Why? 10)Delta Lady: Anything You Want 11)The Drum Club: One Tribe 12)Sabres Of Paradise: Lick Wid Nit Wit 13)Spooky: Aqualung Dub 14)Orbital: Belfast/Wasted CD 2 1)=A9: He Was 2)Massive Attack: Karmacoma(Bumper Ball Dub) 3)Tricky: You Don't 4)Cypress Hill: Lick A Shot 5)Credit To The Nation: Come Dancing 6)Little Axe: 15 To 4 7)The Sandals: Venice Groove 8)Stereo MCs: Elevate My Mind 9)Jah Wobble: Whiskey Priests 10)Node: Olivine 11)New Order: Confusion 12)Moby: Go(Subliminal Mix) 13)LFO: Slow Down Speedy 14)Autechre: Lanx 3 15)Aphex Twin: En Trange To Exit 16)Mindless Drug Hoover: The Reefer Song Ryan np: CJ Bolland: The Analogue Theater # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:07:41 EDT From: Subject: Re: (orb) Hi...I'm new here... Yes, as a matter of fact I do know something about this guy. His name is Dan Motut, and he has been on this list for a while. We had a trade, but I never recieved anything from him. He told me that he had "mailed" (past tense) the package four weeks ago from tomorrow (Thursday). I wrote to him asking where my disks are, and he responded that he hadn't gotten around to mailing them and will "mail them tomorrow" (future tense). Well, they still aren't here. Somehow, he gets a new e-mail account, and calls himself Zed, but I find this quite intersesting because my e-mail address is "Zed6and789@aol.com." I am worried that he is up to something, and I am warning everybody to ignore him if he wants to buy, sell, or trade. I am sorry for creating such an outburst, but I feel strongly about this issue. We should all be friends on this list, and courteously not rip anyone off. - -Pete Zed6and789@aol.com P.S. I sent him my only copy of FFWD. Can anybody make me a CDR of it? Please? In a message dated 98-07-14 20:05:48 EDT, smac@oz.net writes: > Maybe > you know something about this guy that I don't, but it looks to me like he > just introduced himself to the list, is boasting about his impressive > collection (I would, too), and isn't trying to run some scam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:31:10 -0700 From: neptune@slip.net (rachel) Subject: (orb) argh so i mail-ordered the cd single for Zombie by the cranberries, gambling on the fact that it would contain the fabulous orb remix - sadly, it doesn't. can anyone tell me where this remix appears? and slightly off-topic, does anyone know if there's a cranberries mailing list (or something like that) where i could off-load the thing - i'm really not a fan... (i tried their convoluded site, to no avail) thanks! =) rach # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:11:05 +0200 From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Re : Zombie remix Dear Rachel wrote : >so i mail-ordered the cd single for Zombie by the cranberries, gambling on >the fact that it would contain the fabulous orb remix - sadly, it doesn't. >can anyone tell me where this remix appears? Sure... It's on the US CD Single of When You're Gone / Free to decide 422-854 825-2 When you're gone (edit) 4.29 Free to decide (album) 4.24 Free to decide (live) 3.11 Cordell 3.40 Zombie (MTV Unplugged) 4.54 <----I like it ! Don't flame me :) Zombie (A camel's hump remix) 7.53 <------ That's it ! The Orb massacre remix :) In France, it was hard to find. I may be wrong, but it's on the US Version only. JCFromParis On now : Blur - On your own - Walter wall mix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:26:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy J Graham Subject: (orb) orb remix of cranberries Speaking of that Orb remix of Zombie, has anybody ever heard it? Is it any good? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:33:13 -0400 From: George Udel Subject: (orb) My leaving the Orb Lists Hi everyone, I might be leaving the Orb list in two weeks or so. I pretty much don't get much out of the Orb list. People don't trust me as much as they used to on the Orb List because of mistakes that I made in the past. I don't get that much interesting email and it's not that much interesting. I will miss you all. Good luck finding what you are looking for. I apoligize to those people who I let down. I am truly sorry. This is only part of the reason why I am leaving the list. See you all later. Regards, Nate Udel- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: (orb) Zombie remix On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, rachel wrote: > so i mail-ordered the cd single for Zombie by the cranberries, gambling on > the fact that it would contain the fabulous orb remix - sadly, it doesn't. > can anyone tell me where this remix appears? It's on the "When You're Gone" single. At least that's what I've got listed in my Archives... The Cranberries *When You're Gone/Free to Decide/Cordell/Zombie/Screensaver ...and it's the only Cranberries item I own. :) And I honestly can't remember what it sounds like. I think I picked it up at a WalMart, on sale, of all places. I wouldn't have bought it but for the Orb mix. If anyone's dying for the answer I can go listen to it when I get home from work... CRZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:09:40 EDT From: Subject: Re: (orb) orb remix of cranberries This mix of Zombie is definately good, the best song on the single (7 min and 53 blissful seconds). I haven't seen it on the racks lately, orb recordings come and go so fast. Chris in NYC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: (orb) Mindless Drug Hoover again I see that CDNow has both a vinyl single and a CD EP listed. Is there a difference? Will I get the Orb version no matter which one I buy? Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the Reefer song. ;-) I put in an order for the CD, but it appears to be backordered - so I give me a 50/50 chance of getting it (although they DID come through with my Jedi Knights - it took four weeks but they got it!) They're having an "imports" sale (30% off) so now might be the time to buy - - or try to buy, as it were. Wait, check that - the vinyl looks to be "domestic!" Release date Tuesday (21 July). Now I'm superconfused - help! Thanks, CRZ PS The album is $20.99, but I'm feeling cheap this month. Or am I making a big mistake and I must have it at any price? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:27:36 -0400 From: George Udel Subject: (orb) Orb Commercial HI, I saw a car commercial on television. It was playing the song, Little Fluffy CLouds. You normally, or I normally, don't see commercials that have Orb songs on them. It is pretty rare. Speaking of rare, anybody know of a place of where I can get the Little FLuffy CLouds Remixes and know that the place will have it on the internet? Take Care! Nate Udel- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Commercial Totally a side note, but I rented Phantoms last night and there was a preview for Playing God on it. They played Toxygene for the first half. Did anyone else notice this? Is the song on the soundtrack? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:51:59 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Commercial > Totally a side note, but I rented Phantoms last night and there >was a preview for Playing God on it. They played Toxygene for the first >half. Did anyone else notice this? Is the song on the soundtrack? This is like when Alien Ressurection was coming to the theates, and in the previews they were playing Pi from Orblivion (that really short aggressive song). But that song was nowhere to be heard in the movie. I've been noticing that alot. In previews and now lately even the soundtracks, contain songs that aren't in the movie. For example, the X-Files movie soundtrack... None of those songs are in the movie. Moby's version of the James Bond theme never made it into the opening scene of Tomorrow Never Dies. and so on. It seems more and more everyday, hollywood is trying to sell thier movies based on a song. Ever since those big soundtrack hits like Singles, and the Crow, and Dazed and Confused. And lately I've seen quite a bit of Orb abuse, in previews.. Well it isn't abuse if they pay for it... But otherwise... if the song isn't in the movie.. keep it away I say... Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:03:52 -0400 From: cdrich@juno.com (Rich J Bide) Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Commercial On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:54:35 -0400 (EDT) "Benjamin L. May" writes: > >Totally a side note, but I rented Phantoms last night and >there was a preview for Playing God on it. They played Toxygene for the >first half. Did anyone else notice this? Is the song on the soundtrack? Yeah, I remember hearing Toxygene when they were running previews on TV back when the movie opened in theaters. The song is NOT on the soundtrack. In fact, I rented the movie last month and guess what? The song is not even played during the movie! Rich CDs for sale or trade - check out my home page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:02:40 +0300 (EEST) From: Dan Subject: (orb) bout time. i haven't seen any really good discussions on here for awhile, so hopefully this will start a nice thread... since i got into the orb, i've been increasingly disillusioned as i've found bits and pieces of evidence here and there that LX hasn't actually had much to do with the making of the music on the orb albums. In one interview, he essentially said that kris did almost all the music on U.F.Orb (my favorite album as a matter of fact) and it would seem that Andy did most of the stuff on Orblivion. Just from the general interviews i've read it doesn't really seem like he has much of a clue what's going on other than how to use a sampler here and there.. i'm fully prepared to deal with the fact that this might be true. It seems as if he rides the wave of popularity and gets the 'sound mag' props (keyboard/etc.) when it's actually everybody else who does the work.. sure, he may armchair it at the studio but is anyone else getting the feeling that it's fehlmann's engineering ears and andy's ideas these days that are running things? The flaw in this of course is that i don't see why they'd work with him like this if he wasn't contributing.. perhaps they're just buds and that comes first? Additionally, I think LX had a lot more to do with Adventures than he did anything else since-- it just always seems that I've never been able to catch him doing anything like making music.. he hasn't done any remixes by himself, there's always someone else involved.. im wondering if he even knows his way around the console? he's never had sole writing credit.. it just seems like his name is tacked on the end of song info and mentioned in all descriptions of the bands in mags and what not. Now, I do think he's a great guy and although not a spectacular dj, he was holding his own and impressing the crowd at the party i saw himplay at, but it certainly wasn't evidence of the kind of genius it would take to craft anything on an orb album.. (i realize these are different mediums) Anyone have any comments? I don't think I'll get flamed, since I h9ope i've put together a cohesive post, and I know others on the list have wondered these things too.. Cheers, Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:20:03 EST5EDT From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) bout time. > since i got into the orb, i've been increasingly disillusioned as i've > found bits and pieces of evidence here and there that LX hasn't actually > had much to do with the making of the music on the orb albums. In one > interview, he essentially said that kris did almost all the music on > U.F.Orb (my favorite album as a matter of fact) and it would seem that > Andy did most of the stuff on Orblivion. ===>Well, one thing *I'VE* always wondered was exactly how much of the stuff on Orb albums is music, and how much is just borrowed material--or "manufactured" collages? I mean, if Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld is STRICTLY a dj mix, then I must admit that it's pretty gosh-darn impressive! But how much of the albums are "borrowed," and how much is actual synthesizers used by Orb members? Any ideas? My point is this: when listening to electronic music from, say, Tangerine Dream, Jean-Michel Jarre, Synergy, Tomita, Vangelis, David Arkenstone, etc., we can pretty much be assured that ALL the musical sounds are of their own creation, and not stolen from other musicians' songs. (Notable exception: Zoolook by Jarre, which made some rather innovative use of the Fairlight sampler, which was apparently highly influential on the Art of Noise...but even that isn't the same as spinning records, is it?) And what about FSOL? Accelerator seems to be mostly their own music (a few vocal samples here and there don't bug me at all), but I'm not at all sure about Lifeforms. Lifeforms is my all-time favorite ambient album, but I can sense QUITE a few samples from Tomita's album, _Bermuda Triangle_, in the mix.... I'm digressing. Sorry. ;-) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:22:56 EDT From: Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Commercial In a message dated 98-07-16 10:47:40 EDT, you write: > It seems more and more everyday, hollywood is trying to > sell thier movies based on a song. I agree. Actually, everybody is trying to sell products based on a song. Look at Burger King and Gap. Unfortunately, for the companies, all they are getting me to buy is more music. I really like the Crystal Method album with the song in the Gap advertisements. Screw the khackis---they don't rock for shit. Maybe these movie and car ads are boosting sales for Orb records. Maybe? - -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:34:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) bout time. > The flaw in this of course is that i don't see why they'd work with him > like this if he wasn't contributing.. perhaps they're just buds and that > comes first? I agree. Musicians generally seem pretty possesive of their own works, and buddies or not, if Alex had any involvement, I think that he'd require his name to be there... > Additionally, I think LX had a lot more to do with Adventures than he did > anything else since-- it just always seems that I've never been able to > catch him doing anything like making music.. he hasn't done any remixes > by himself, there's always someone else involved.. im wondering if he even > knows his way around the console? he's never had sole writing credit.. > it just seems like his name is tacked on the end of song info and > mentioned in all descriptions of the bands in mags and what not. Have you heard the "textures" album? It's got one entire cd of just laex mixing stuff. None of the songs sound like the orig's, so he's not just beatmixing one song into the next. It's fantastic material, and attributable solely to Mr. Paterson. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:14:51 +0100 From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Commercial In message <2.2.32.19980716112736.006ad3a4@pop.erols.com>, George Udel writes : >I saw a car commercial on television. It was playing the song, >Little Fluffy CLouds. You normally, or I normally, don't see commercials >that have Orb songs on them. It is pretty rare. Here in the UK last night, Channel 4 were running an advert for the new series of "Arthouse". The backing music was "Blue Room" :) You're right though, it IS rare. Chris Basford E-mail : chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:34:36 EST5EDT From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) On? Hey, is Amp on MTV anymore? I vaguely remember someone posting a message a while back that MTV has "decided" that the electronica phase hasn't "caught on" like they expected. Well.... No wonder: Amp was on at an ungodly hour. Ever since I got married (I'm not making this up), I rarely stay up past midnight. And I'm sure I'm not the ONLY electronica fan that is no longer a vampyre.... Besides, most of the music played on Amp pretty much sucked, anyway, IMHO. It seems as though they dredged up crap from the bottom of the electronic sewer, aired it at some ridiculous hour, and are wondering why no one is catching on.... There were occasions when interesting songs were played, but most of the songs sounded alike--hardcore trance and pseudo-industrial.... Oh well. Hey, and if Bobby Tribble is still out there--MTV *IS* airing an interesting program that's on some nights (but I'm not sure WHICH nights or WHICH times) called Cartoon Sushi, which is (I suppose) a resurrection of Liquid TV. The "Angry Broccoli" was a hoot! :-) MEESTER DOGGIE TREEEETS! ;-) - --Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #87 ************************