From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #108 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 108 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:53:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy J Graham Subject: Re: (orb) HI > I hate the term, 'electronica' > Lee. AMEN!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:24:18 +0200 From: Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) X-Orb w/ X-Cult reishi@juno.com schreef: > EX-CULT SINGER IAN ASTBURY READIES NEW ALBUM FOR SPRING > > Guitarist Billy Duffy isn't the only ex-Cult member with new music on > the > horizon. Ian Astbury, the distinctive voice behind the influential heav= y > metal/ punk rock hybrid, has finally finished his long- awaited solo > album, > tentatively titled Transcendental Youth Cult. > > The album is about to go into the final mixing stages in a New York > recording studio and will feature between 10 and 12 tracks, including a > re-recorded version of a previously unreleased Cult tune called "The > Witch." The album, which is slated for a spring 1999 release by Beggars > Banquet Records, is described by Astbury as the perfect matrimony betwe= en > electronica and his Cult past. MY GOD! Next thing you know Frank Sinatra with be coming out with a posthumous "electronica" release. Wasn=B4t "The Witch" released on the Cool World, or some such other soundtrack? Oh yeah electronica as a term blows week old bread. Still prefer the term Acid House...LOL... What can I say? I am listening to Mr. Lee as I write this. For the .ram file try this if you have Netscape: Right clicking the link then choose "save link as.." put it where you want it on your comp peep ya=B4s orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:33:35 +0200 From: Michael Subject: Re: (orb) u.f.off page/micky mars/etc. Hi fellows, I totally agree, too ;-) The new cover-artwork is absolutely cool! I am quite sure that this one was not created by MadArk, London. Does anyone know some details about the artwork?? Micky Mars? Yep, the sample was taken from Enigma's Return To Innocence for sure. Don't like this track, too! I don't know how to describe why. Let's say it is nothing special. But okey, it is just some kind of bonustrack on a best of album ;-) Think there is no need to worry about Cydonia. But what drives me absolutely crazy is the fact, that the cool new LFC CD will only be released as promo. Hey, this is what we all are waiting for ;-)). Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:08:51 EDT From: Zed6and789@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) u.f.off page/micky mars/etc. In a message dated 98-09-13 20:41:07 EDT, you write: << However, i was supremely disappointed in Micky Mars- i can say for certain that the d&b style beat that comes in after about a minute or so was a big reason of that. Anyway, other than the chanting and the d&b rhythmic style, the song had some nice orb-like moments.. i just hope 'cydonia' or whatever becomes of it isn't stuff like this- i also hope that micky mars isnt on the album! i keep hoping for the perfect orb album, and if it's to be this next one, that will definitely scar it! >> This is how I feel about S.A.L.T. and 72 (the hidden track). I think they ruin the "flow" of the album. At least I can press "disk skip" before 72. - -Pete Also, on Peel Sessions 2, the song "No Fun" alters the flow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:16:40 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) X-Orb w/ X-Cult Yes, "The Witch," as produced by the legendary Rick Rubin, was on the = Cool World soundtrack. Not being a big Cult fan but being a big Rick Rubin = fan I always liked the track but didn't want to shell out for the whole soundtrack, not even used. Well, I finally found some other Cult single = that had "The Witch" as a b-side and picked it up. Much to my dismay, my = favorite sample on it (from the first track on Killing Joke's self-titled first = album (can't remember the track name offhand)) was removed! Probably had = trouble clearing/affording it, and probably no one else noticed, but I did and = it was a bummer. Oh well. Orb content: see Killing Joke connection above. JG PS - Yes, I know Rick Rubin produced that other album by the Cult with = "Love Removal Machine," et. al. But "The Witch" is a different, much cooler, production style. -----Original Message----- From: Orbette [mailto:orbette@frii.com] Subject: Re: (orb) X-Orb w/ X-Cult MY GOD! Next thing you know Frank Sinatra with be coming out with a posthumous "electronica" release. Wasn=B4t "The Witch" released on the Cool World, or some such other soundtrack? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:28:57 -0500 From: David Barkhymer Subject: (orb) DR I think the artwork blows, although the patch is almost acceptable. I want the Designers Republic back. "Ultraworld space scapes remix in The Designers Republic" - Aubrey Mixes David >The new cover-artwork is absolutely cool! I am quite sure that this one was >not created by >MadArk, London. Does anyone know some details about the artwork?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:04:53 -0400 From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: RE: (orb) X-Orb w/ X-Cult That was Killing Joke's "Requiem", and yes, I noticed it too. At 01:16 PM 9/14/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes, "The Witch," as produced by the legendary Rick Rubin, was on the Cool >World soundtrack. Not being a big Cult fan but being a big Rick Rubin fan I >always liked the track but didn't want to shell out for the whole >soundtrack, not even used. Well, I finally found some other Cult single that >had "The Witch" as a b-side and picked it up. Much to my dismay, my favorite >sample on it (from the first track on Killing Joke's self-titled first album >(can't remember the track name offhand)) was removed! Probably had trouble >clearing/affording it, and probably no one else noticed, but I did and it >was a bummer. Oh well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:43:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) u.f.off page/micky mars/etc. >Also, on Peel Sessions 2, the song "No Fun" alters the flow. Don't agree about SALT and 72, but this track is a good reason to get an expensive, programmable CD player that skips without having to get up every time. Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:02:20 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) DR Hear, hear! I couldn't agree more. While U.F.Off may have the best "novelty" album cover since the Beastie Boys Licensed to Ill, it just doesn't say "Orb" to me. The MadArk stuff was pretty cool, but here's another vote to BRING BACK THE DESIGNERS REPUBLIC!!! JG PS - Yes, the patch is OK, but as I was about to hit "apply" this morning to make it my desktop pattern, the person across from me asked "what *is* that orbiting the planet?" So, in this politically correct world, rather than have some passerby mistake the finger for some other body part (or a cigar...) I guess I'll leave the patch off my desktop at work. Sigh. -----Original Message----- From: David Barkhymer [mailto:david_b@inch.com] Subject: (orb) DR I think the artwork blows, although the patch is almost acceptable. I want the Designers Republic back. "Ultraworld space scapes remix in The Designers Republic" - Aubrey Mixes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) From: zeel Subject: (orb) RealAudio playlists (was: Mickey mars.rle) Interesting observation about RAM files... they simply contain pointers to realaudio files, so you can actually use RAM files to create a playlist, pretty much like MP3 playlists. Here is an example of my orb.ram file stored on the local disk in the same directory as my RA files: file://toxygene_gkr.hifi.rm file://ultraworld.peel.hifi.rm file://backside.peel.hifi.rm etc. All this works perfectly with the free version of realplayer. nifty, huh? zeel. - ---John Goerner wrote: > >does anybody know how to download the whole hifi realaudio file so I can > >listen to it offline? [skipped] == == zeel [djzeel@yahoo.com] == spinning music for the unconscious mind == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) u.f.off page/micky mars/etc. > Also, on Peel Sessions 2, the song "No Fun" alters the flow. Oh but I love that track sooooo much. It's awsome to hear LX and the rest play something so entirely outside of their genre so well. Plus there's the fact that whoever's on vocals knows exactly how badly a punk vocalist should sound. I dunno, there's something super appealing to me about that track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:05:51 -0500 From: cl Subject: Re: (orb) HI FLYBOY wrote: > errrr I'm new to this list, and the intro message said I should intro > myself. Anyhow I dig all kinds of techno/electronica style music. Although > I hate the term techno. I like the orb(obviously), orbital, aphex twin etc. why do you hate the term techno, if you dont listen to it? none of the bands you mentionqualify so dont worry about it. cl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:03:49 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) No Fun! >> Also, on Peel Sessions 2, the song "No Fun" alters the flow. > > I dunno, there's something super appealing to me about that track. I feel the same way... And In there whole personna of practical jokers, I think the song fits perfectly. And also when the vocals go through all the wierd stereo effects, it sounds really cool! I finally was able to find a copy of this used about a month ago. Beforehand I've never heard the track and I've heard so many Orbies talk about how much they disliked it. But After hearing, i think it's great. I really have no idea how they did that song(did they hire a band, or just spun some records?)... But imagine never hearing the Orb, and you've heard of them to be described as chill out, or ambient, or dub (or any of the plethora of names often tagged onto the androgeneus sound of the Orb)... And when you tune into the Radio one day and you find them playing a raunchy punk song! Quite hysterical! One of the many reasons You can never expect what they are going to do next! Sean Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:16:35 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) The orb left behind lately. Have you been noticing that the Orb hasn't been showing up in much media lately. And recently there has been a lot of Articles and stuff, trying to "define" the whole electronic music scene. And none of them have mentioned the Orb, or what their influences are on other musicians. Their albums aren't even listed as groundbreaking titles in these somewhat laughable articles. For instance, Keyboard's latest issue is all about "Groove Oriented" music. And they have an article in there called "Dance Music Demystified".. Here this terrible article tries to describe all the different sub-genres of electronic dance music. And in the Ambient description, not one mention of the Orb. And they Praised Goldie's new album as groundbreaking work in ambient music. Also there was this Movie I saw at the Chicago Underground Film Festival called "Modulations"... It was a documentary on Electronic music.... It was pretty interesting.. But It had it's flaws.. focused too much on the here and now... and the music that tends to move the dancefloor.. But guess it would be hard to cover every single corner of electronic music in under 2 hours. Anyways there is some great interviews with Coldcut, Squarepusher, Autechre, Genesis-P, Ronnie Size, and much much more... You also get so see FSOL act like assholes (I like their music, hate their personality)... Anyways to get to the point... No mention at all of the Orb. or interview or anything... I figured they are a big part of the history of Electronic music... I guess people have other views then us orbies on the list. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:36:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) u.f.off page/micky mars/etc.. > > Also, on Peel Sessions 2, the song "No Fun" alters the flow. > > Oh but I love that track sooooo much. It's awsome to hear LX and > the rest play something so entirely outside of their genre so well. Plus > there's the fact that whoever's on vocals knows exactly how badly a punk > vocalist should sound. > > I dunno, there's something super appealing to me about that track. I agree.. its a really fun song (regardless of its title ;p). I also heard a rumor that LX is the one on vocals.. anyone know if there's any truth to this? charlie spinning: dj cam - the beat assassinated # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:38:20 -0800 From: M & P Carlton Subject: Re: (orb) The orb left behind lately. > Anyways to get to the point... No mention at all of the Orb. or interview or > anything... I figured they are a big part of the history of Electronic > music... > > I guess people have other views then us orbies on the list. > > Sean The Orb, as i figured it, is a specialized kind of music, that specifies to different kinds of people. I have no freinds around me at all that like the Orb, and I've made some 'Orb haters'... unintentionally of course (they have no taste in real music) but the Orb is just real weird in thier own way, and it attracts a certain crowd, not everybody, not even in the electronic scene. And yes i thoroughly agree... The Orb plays a big part in the history of electronic music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:49:41 +0000 From: Jeff Subject: Re: (orb) The orb left behind lately. > The Orb, as i figured it, is a specialized kind of music, that > specifies to different kinds of people. I have no freinds around me at > all that like the Orb, and I've made some 'Orb haters'... > unintentionally of course (they have no taste in real music) but the Orb > is just real weird in thier own way, and it attracts a certain crowd, > not everybody, not even in the electronic scene. And yes i thoroughly > agree... The Orb plays a big part in the history of electronic music. Most people I know, when exposed to the orb for the first time, just think it's wierd and not "music". "You BUY this stuff? How can you enjoy this, it doesn't make any SENSE!" People I know who like electronica (in the derogatory sense) tend to hate Orb. "Where's the beat? I don't get it!" I guess it just takes a certain type of person, or someone with an open mind... I must admit it took me a few listens to begin to like orb stuff, but after that I was completely hooked. - -- Jeff The Martian Canals were clearly the Martian's last ditch effort! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:03:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew J Russell Subject: (orb) Re:the orb left its heart in san fransisco well now, you can't expect people to remember everyone, after all, many people who used to be well-known aren't anymore...i haven't heard a word spoken of the klf in the news in ages....reading some article at the ultraworld site..i'd never heard of spiral tribe..who according to the article were important in 1991....maybe the orb isn't important to these people, who are more concerned with trying to cram "electronica" down people's throats..people who pay attention to the prodigy only as a sales force...i mean, even the music that the orb pioneered(ambient, if you will)isn't done much anymore..(now it's electronic listening)........... so what if some article doesn't mention the orb....it's better that way, they won't try to commercialize a band they don't know of(not that orb could be commercialized...but at least no one's trying) and as for the phrases techno, or dance or electronica....these are simply words, not for our usage, but to give business people a word to refer to when talking about something....as long as some sort of music rubs you the right way(literally or figuratively, it doen't matter...some of us have seen the woofer scene in private parts)it doesn't need a name........... now, if this article is anything like the one i saw in some magazine about kraftwerk being more important than the beatles...i'm going to smack it......kraftwerk started a type of music which in all likelihood will remain mostly "underground"(read:not mainstream) and as such will not affect as many people...not that kraftwerk wasn't brilliant at the time..but.... there, that's my rant and rave about the music scene...just go and listen to what makes you feel good matt(there, i've said it..i feel better) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:36:13 -0700 From: "sfwd productions" Subject: Re: (orb) The orb left behind lately. > Also there was this Movie I saw at the Chicago Underground Film Festival > called "Modulations"... It was a documentary on Electronic music.... It was > pretty interesting.. But It had it's flaws.. focused too much on the here > and now... and the music that tends to move the dancefloor.. But guess it > would be hard to cover every single corner of electronic music in under 2 > hours. Anyways there is some great interviews with Coldcut, Squarepusher, > Autechre, Genesis-P, Ronnie Size, and much much more... You also get so see Well, personally, I think that any movie that points to Genesis P-Orridge in reference to a leader in the dance / electronic scene is pretty flawed =) Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of P-Orridge... Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV takes up FAR too much space in my music collection, and I've always been extremely interested in all aspects of the scene which surrounds P-Orridge... BUT... it simply didn't sound like a movie he really belonged in... brap@sonic.net[icq: 12645306] http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ sfwd prod | noisesoundnoise chris g. 1547 boston court #7, santa rosa, ca 95405 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:38:59 +0200 From: Orbette Subject: (orb) RE: the orb have been left... Jeff schreef: > > The Orb, as i figured it, is a specialized kind of music, that > > specifies to different kinds of people. I have no freinds around me at > > all that like the Orb, and I've made some 'Orb haters'... > > unintentionally of course (they have no taste in real music) but the Orb > > is just real weird in thier own way, and it attracts a certain crowd, > > not everybody, not even in the electronic scene. And yes i thoroughly > > agree... The Orb plays a big part in the history of electronic music. > > Yada Yada Yada In a passive aggressive kinda way I am glad Orb are not getting their props. All those electronica bands can live with the guilt of being in the spotlight and Orb not being in it. Then, when history rectifies its mistake and Orb are getting their just due all those other bands will have succumbed to 1) imprisonment due to Excessive Bitch Slapping, 2) Getting stuck in a Loop of Fury, and 3) signing on with someone who knows more about NOT winning Academy Awards than they do simple dance steps and who wouldn=B4t know a 909 if a certain Extra Terrestrial shoved it sideways up their bum. Mark my words, Orb=B4s day will come, question is will the world have already devoured itself whole from not having paid heed to LX and co. in the first place? tounge firmly in cheek... orbette ps...that is what is so nice about the PBS special...Orb are more than given...NUFF RESPECT ! oh yeah i did i mention i am about to go next door and still Little Miss Sorority Girl=B4s bong and stash if she can=B4t learn to hold her smoke..= .i mean, come on, coughing all damn night....SHEESH!!!!!.....LMAO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:22:10 -0700 From: Craig Benzan Subject: (orb) Micky Mars Hi there, my name's Craig. I've been on the list for a couple of months. Geez, it's like a soap opera on here sometimes! Anyway, just listened to Micky Mars and, from reading the list recently, it seems I'm the only one around who likes it. It's pretty weird as far as I'm concerned, not in a Pomme Fritz type way mind you, but for what appears to be a four minute single it's definitely progressive and it goes nicely with the cover. As for the drum and bass beat, well, when I hear orb I never hear genres, I hear sounds, and this song is no exception. And reworking the Enigma melody was hilarious, just the right amount of familiarity to cause some sort of flashback, and it shows how lame the original was when compared to true artistic genius, which the orb represents quite nicely. Does anyone happen to agree? Bye. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:57:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Dan Subject: (orb) some orb influence.. I'm always on the look out for things I feel that pre-date orb which seem to have influenced them- today while scoping out the catalog of brian eno cd's at my school i found a definite one: eno's 'my life in the bush of ghosts' album, in particular a track called 'mountain of needles' could've been an orb track and i would not have been surprised. The album is from 1979-1980 or so i believe, and while most of it is not quite what the orb's output has been, there are similarities a plenty, especially in the way the pieces are sort of structured collage of ambience and interesting little sounds... LX's time at EG (which this album was released on) certainly had some bearing on their work, from the sound of it.. - -dan g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:06:35 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) my life in the bush of ghosts > eno's 'my life in the bush of >ghosts' album, in particular a track called 'mountain of needles' could've >been an orb track and i would not have been surprised. well spotted... this is part of the "history" of music that people often miss... Eno and Byrnes groundbreaking album can never be worshipped enough, because they thought of "sampling" voices instead of writing and singing lyrics!!! so obvious today, but revolutionary work at the time.... you will not find a good musician out there who has not heard this album (i hope!!)... if you haven't heard it, then I recommend you do. Powerful stuff!! i think you'll find that old LX was very influenced by Eno and EG... just check out Ambient 4: On Land... a must for any fan of ambience KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: the mechanic Subject: Re: (orb) my life in the bush of ghosts % just check out Ambient 4: On Land... a must for any fan of ambience sorry for the cross-post! just recieved this cd in the mail today, very good stuff. can anyone reccomend any other artists/albums along the lines of eno's ambient 4: on land? thanks. v.musical nature =0D k o n t e n t . ! d : everything is fixed = Your actual reception may vary ... The human as computer had many applications, > teaching themselves > the technology, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$ musical nature .an ambient project $$$$ $$ http://musicalnature.8m.com $$ $$ $$$$$$$ poetry $$ pixel $$ sound $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ scanning1acrossttheXXXt[l!_!!(1=X=tx[//lll////////lll///>;_;__([Xuuc=x[1///l//llll((((l(":",^;_(l(azOaOHHA Transfer interrupted! ...let it wander...let it wander...let it wander... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:31:24 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) space hellorb >I was quite pleased. I also got Jimi Cauty's "Space" album for 12UKP. you lucky lucky bastard :) anyone got a copy of "space" they feel like throwing out, cos I'll have it ;-) I do have some things to trade perhaps... KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:40:08 -0400 From: Ryan Platte Subject: Re: (orb) Minny Message >And reworking the Enigma melody was hilarious, just the right >amount of familiarity to cause some sort of flashback, and it shows how >lame the original was when compared to true artistic genius, which the >orb represents quite nicely. >Does anyone happen to agree? yes, sir, emphatically...i guess it's difficult for people to tie in the album name and cover with the music and its content...i laughed longer than i've laughed for weeks upon visiting the site and then starting up micky...my cousin calls this kind of behavior "format *u**ing" (in my mind, quite apart from its hard-on ancestor the format ***k), and regards it, as i do, the highest socio-intellectual achievement available in modern society. give 'em what they think they want, then sit back behind your new korg z1 and god knows what else, musing humorously over a j how long before the record guy wakes up and realizes he's been had. that he's actually released something with a middle finger blasting off, as well as a patch with said finger doing something that's appropriate on a very wide array of levels. as is this whole project, god love 'em as for "my life in the bush of ghosts", paterson put it high on a list of his top ten most-influential records a few years back...so good call. you've neglected to mention that probably part of the reason live 93 has those particular vocals on outlands is track 3, "Regiment". on land has paternal links to orbvs terrarvm, certainly. music for airports and apollo are definitely worth a listen. i understand paterson and his mates were constantly spinning apollo (for themselves) back when, and i've heard that one of the sun electric guys fell asleep to it every night for like 6 months. come on, kids, have a little faith. weird dreams for sure tonight, ryan ryanplatte@pobox.com part http://pobox.com/~part part@pobox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:44:35 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) enorb hellorb >i do, the highest socio-intellectual achievement available in modern society. well said my friend... >as for "my life in the bush of ghosts", paterson put it high on a list of >his top ten most-influential records a few years back...so good call. should be in everyones top ten :) >heard that one of the sun electric guys fell asleep to it every night for >like 6 months. yeah, thats the way to go... I have done a similar thing with On Land and Music for Airports Apollo is great, but sometimes it makes me really sad/nostalgic... it has definite links to KLF's "chill out" (think slide guitar)... Mmmmm.... that makes me wonder... what would you consider to be the "saddest" orb song? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:40:02 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) thoughts on UFOff mornin' all. here are a few pointers, after listening to UFOff in full a couple of times: - - it's not REALLY mixed together. most tracks kind of fade-in-fade-out of each other. there are a couple of 'crunchy' overlaps, but nothing TOO bad. - - i'm pretty sure that the vocal sample of micky mars IS NOT taken from the enigma track 'end of innocence'. sounds more like it's been sampled from a similar album of native indian music. VERY similar. - - i actually LIKE micky mars. it's a FUN track and i think that some people are maybe taking it a little too seriously - this album is a filler before the new album, and i don't think andy and lx will want to put tracks for it on this compilation (especially as they'd rather not be doing it, imho - why do you think it has the name it does, and the corresponding artwork?). - - anyway, the 'red x' mix of micky mars is much better, as the track has time to open up more. if you've seen any of the recent 'petite orb' shows, a drum 'n' bass(ish) track isn't that surprising. i'm only surprised that it's not HARDER - micky mars is "cocktail d'n'b" compared to those shows... ;-) - - the live lfc is good, but i wish there was some crowd noise on it, to give a little more flavour of a live experience. - - the pomme fritz remix is great, as is the montagne d'or remix. i won't try to describe them, as you really need to hear them, and you will in a couple of weeks, anyway. ta ta for now. should have some pricing info for the UFOff 2cd and video tomorrow - watch the list for details - please don't email me... cheers. - -- Smiley HUGE spares list at: www.compton.co.uk/smiley.htm np: orb - oobe (pool mix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:00:30 +0100 From: Lee Subject: (orb) ha ha ha, orb with lyrics again I'm unable to listen to the real audio file of that new track on UF Off, someone please tell me what it sounds like! And whether the orb have or haven't gone on to include lyrics, what a big mistake that would be! Lee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) space > >I was quite pleased. I also got Jimi Cauty's "Space" album for 12UKP. > > anyone got a copy of "space" they feel like throwing out, cos I'll have it ;-) > I do have some things to trade perhaps... KL Or, and I know some people on this list seem morally against it but if there was ever a time when this would be warranted it's now, maybe someone could make an MP3 copy of the album available? Or perhaps CD-R? I'm dying for this material.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:20:04 +0100 From: "David Hampson" Subject: (orb) Bad trader warning Just a warning, though its a little late for some!: avoid doing trades with Andy Garner (last e-mail was agarner@berrytaylor.demon.co.uk but it is no longer valid). He was located in Kettering, England, though he may have relocated to London. He also appears to have defrauded the post office a considerable amount for "lost parcels" then pocketed the money, so if anybody has any similar dealings it would be helpful if you can let me know. Many thanks DAVID # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:25:16 -0800 From: M & P Carlton Subject: (orb) help help!! Hey! I'm new to this electronic thing... umm... and i've been a fan of the Orb for a while now, actually, for my life story, i started out hating them, but then grew on to the music, now they're one of my favorite bands... but anyway, i was wondering if ANYONE has an LP of assassin and the 40 minute blue room that are willing to sell, or know someone or store that sells it! I've been dying for them!! Assassin is THEE best song from the Orb, and i want it on LP... please if anyone knows anything about that... please answer! Any info would be deeply deeply appreciated. Paul "Jiro" Alaska # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:26:28 GMT From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: big london gig info # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com big one-off ORB gig! venue: royal albert hall, london (7.30pm-midnight) date: thursday, october 22nd support: big audio dynamite sound system, dj lewis, one true parker tickets: =A317.50, =A315, =A312.50 (plus booking fee) from: 0171-589-8212 (credit card hotline) 0171-734-8932 (stargreen) 0171 344 4444 (ticketmaster) and usual outlets l8rs. - -- Smiley np: orb - pomme fritz (orb remix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:32:10 -0700 From: holli Subject: (orb) [Fwd: electronic/idm/ambient etc] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------BD1A9167907BAC4BB4D6EA9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit didn't know if anyone was interested, but this guy has a couple of orb cd's for sale.... : ) holli - --------------BD1A9167907BAC4BB4D6EA9A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: ionews.ionet.net!nntp.abs.net!news.idt.net!kiowa.exodus.net!206.204.3.107.MISMATCH!pushkin.conxion.com!ultra.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: brap@sonic.net (sfwd prod.) Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace.cd Subject: electronic/idm/ambient etc Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:10:01 GMT Organization: sfwd productions Message-ID: <35fcd46a.323637931@news.sonic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d46.pm15.sonic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: ionews.ionet.net rec.music.marketplace.cd:62729 desperately in need of some quick cash, but trades are cool too... postage is $1.50 first, $.50 each after that. also have a copy of david toop's spirit world, new. ordered pink noir, received this title which i already own (its excellent, but no need for two copies) will sell postage included for the price tag, $28. - -cd- jam & spoon - tripomatic fairytales - $6 goldie - timeless (2xcd) -10 psychic tv - ultradrug - 10 zoviet france - collusion - 9 v/a - a history of hardcore part 2 (sub base, moving shadow) - 9 lightwave - mundus subterraneus - 8 lightwave - tycho brabe - 8 plasticman - sheet one - 8 future sound of london - cascade - 6 - -vinyl- afx - analogue bubblebath 3.1 - $9 m. broom - angie is a shoplifter (ae, jega, pwog remixes) - $9 synthestianz - scoptophilia ep -$9 plug - me and mr sutton (white label) - $9 - -offers- plug - versatile crib funk (12") tom j - rumbletumjumrumble 1 (12" ltd repress) orb - orb promo5 (green vinyl, 2 versions assassin, promo) orb - orbscure trax (cd) frontline assembly live wired ltd box set (2xcd, video, etc) - -promo hiphop/rap/etc $5/ea- (some with odd/no artwork, etc... typical promo) busta rhymes - the coming makaveli - the don killuminati shyheim - the lost generation jewel t - gangsta chronicles v/a america is dying slowly al-d - home of the free mackedelics - exposed to the game sadat x - wild cowboys san quinn - the hustle continues quindon - young murder squad - how we livin' nada surf - high/low - -wants- diskono 7"s!!!! robert rich - sub zero jake mandell - midwest application specific presents: flora & fuana plan v vs the black dog early black dog 12"s farmers manual (especially no backup) stuff from mego, lucky kitchen, isophlux, v/vm, plug research off the wall sort of labels crazy, noise, chaotic idm/noise/ambient/cutup stuffs not sure? ask, it won't hurt a bit! brap@sonic.net[icq: 12645306] http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ sfwd prod | noisesoundnoise chris g. 1547 boston court #7, santa rosa, ca 95405 - --------------BD1A9167907BAC4BB4D6EA9A-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #108 *************************