From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #121 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Thursday, October 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 121 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:51:16 EDT From: Orbfile23@aol.com Subject: (orb) Clear up the Towers of Dub issue. Skidoo here Real quick, The album version is the 3rd version released and the "Ambient mix" is the original found on the "Orb in Dub EP". The Patturns and Textures version is the 4th version. The 'Mad Prof" mix (2nd) is on the "Blue Room" single. ('Blue Room' came out before U.F.Orb, I have a feeling the album was mixed before the single was released. U.F. Orb came out 2 weeks later.) The "P and T" version is just the ambient mix with some more samples thrown over it. Plus Steve Hillage plays live guitar on all the tracks. This is reason enough to get the "P and T" recording! "Towers of Dub" is a great track on the Video soundtrack, but the version of Perpetual Dawn on this recording is kick ass. As a matter of a fact other than 'LFC' mix the rest of the recording is certainly not worthy of being missed. Anyone agree that the "P and T" version of "Outlands" is the best mix of the track. A really driving version!!!!!!! Oh by the way the visuals for the video are great as well. Tanks for listening, Doc!!!!!! Skidoo (michael) 'OUT' Np: "Art of Noise" 'The Ambient Collection' Youth and LX always came up with some cool shit together. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:57:26 -0500 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: (orb) Enigma sample Damn it! Will someone be so kind as to tape for me the sample of which you speak? I am almost 110% sure that it IS the SAME SAMPLE Enigma used. Perhaps the question is whether the Orb used Enigma, or the Orb and Enigma used the same sample... Someone help me here. I think I'm going nuts. - -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:01:46 +0200 From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: RE: (orb) Re : Sample Spotted...or rather heard... >Maybe not all that strange, considering former Orb co-conspirator Youth >produced the Verve's Urban Hymns LP, on which "The Rolling People" appears. >Anyone heard any more about the rumor that he'll produce the next Guns 'n' >Roses LP (not that I'm a fan)? > >JG > You're right, John. I heard a long time ago that Moby was the producer of the next G'N'R... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:00:33 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb)Youth and G'n'R >Anyone heard any more about the rumor that he'll produce the next Guns 'n' >Roses LP (not that I'm a fan)? Is that what the rumor is now? I though Moby was going to produce it? Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:20:07 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: Re: (orb)Youth and G'n'R > > >>Anyone heard any more about the rumor that he'll produce the next Guns 'n' >>Roses LP (not that I'm a fan)? > > >Is that what the rumor is now? I though Moby was going to produce it? > nope. moby has (as of last year this time) turned down the opportunity to produce the album. he has offered a consulting role to axel, that of friend/helper, but not as a permanent, (i assume) paying/titled job. this is straight from his mouth last sept. i havent heard anything about youth... tripp ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:30:50 +0000 From: Dreamer Subject: Re: (orb) FSOL : ISDN SHOW EP wrote: > Hello, > > I know that there's a FSOL listserve that would be better for me to post > Does anyone have the url or addy for info on the FSOL listserve....thanx in advance.... - -Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:29:30 -0700 (MST) From: ****rist**** Subject: (orb) patterns and textures Hey! When I got Patterns and Textures I only got the video without the CD. I dubbed a copy of the music on to a tape and was disappointed in the bass levels. How does the CD that came with the video sound? Does it sound exactly the same as the video or was there more production done on it? - -mj ps. Liquid....what the dilly. I'm still waiting :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:25:27 EST5EDT From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb)Youth and G'n'R > >Is that what the rumor is now? I though Moby was going to produce it? > > > > nope. moby has (as of last year this time) turned down the opportunity > to produce the album. he has offered a consulting role to axel, that of ===>Hey, hey! What's all this talk about Moby??? I've been on this list for almost two years now (I think), and I've not heard Moby's name mentioned ONCE. All the music guides make him out to be some sort of God (which he would find blasphemous, I'm sure) in the electronic music world. I bought one album of his--Everything Is Wrong--based SOLELY on record reviews: they all said it was the single greatest album of that particular year, etc., but to be quite honest, I wasn't at all impressed with it. I took it back to the store, and exchanged it for something else. Has he ever done anything with the Orb's music, or vice versa? One good thing he's done though (and I think I've mentioned this before) is a cover of Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades" which is absolutely kickass--even BETTER than the original, if you can believe that! It's on the Joy Division tribute album. Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:54:18 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orb)MOBY >I bought one album of his--Everything Is Wrong--based >SOLELY on record reviews: they all said it was the single >greatest album of that particular year, etc., but to be quite >honest, I wasn't at all impressed with it. I took it back to the >store, and exchanged it for something else. I must say that Moby's "new style" on Animal Rights is not up to par = (too heavy). But I think he is a genius on Everything is Wrong. To me, = this is "Old School". When I think of the club scene 5 years ago back = when I had the time to "rage all night", this is the music that comes to = mind. And then he released a "Everything is Wrong - Remixed" on a = double CD (import for those here in the US). That is solely, to me, one = of the best works I have ever heard. A friend of mine has it and I went = to order it, and I found out that they just stopped pressing it. So if = ANYONE out there has this on CD and would want to get rid of it, please = let me know!!!!! CK "Everyone has a right to their opinion..........once" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:28:13 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Re: MOBY >>I bought one album of his--Everything Is Wrong--based >>SOLELY on record reviews: they all said it was the single >>greatest album of that particular year, etc., but to be quite >>honest, I wasn't at all impressed with it. I took it back to the >>store, and exchanged it for something else. > > >I must say that Moby's "new style" on Animal Rights is not up to par (too heavy). But I think >he is a genius on Everything is Wrong. To me, this is "Old School". When I think of the >club scene 5 years ago back when I had the time to "rage all night", this is the music that >comes to mind. And then he released a "Everything is Wrong - Remixed" on a double >CD (import for those here in the US). That is solely, to me, one of the best works I have >ever heard. A When I first bought Everything is Wrong... I hated it... and if you followed the reviews at the time, they did too... But I kept listening to it.. I put it away for awhile and then I heard on of the songs at a club somewhere. I pulled the album out later.. and It grew on me fast. I think the way the album is laid out is great. And I know tons of people that agree with me. I first thought it was horrible how he would put a really fast punk song in the middle of two techno songs. But the more I listened to it.. the more it made sense why he did that. And then later on that year.. All the reviewers that once before gave it a bad rap, were raving about it and calling it album of the year. To me this album ranks in my personal top ten all time Albums... (and this includes a lot of albums (two others are Orb albums, UFOrb, and Orbus Terrarum (I had to put some Orb content in here(and more parenthesis)))). Everyone Is entitled to their own opinion, but I really suggest if you didn't like it on the first listen, give it a few more tries. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:44:14 EDT From: Orbfile23@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb)Youth and G'n'R Skidoo here, I agree (hate to bash) but Moby sure became hack!!! I saw him twice. Once when he opened for the Shaman on the U.S. Entact tour. He was pretty cool with a load of keyboards. (I think mixmaster morris was the D.J., as well) I saw him again when "Young American Primative" opened for him. He sucked the the second time around. He just had a Dat running, while he danced around with a beat up keyboard. I was looking from a balcony above him, so I know he wasn't doing much of the way of 'live' music. Soul-less crap if you ask me. sorry moby fans I just don't care for his music or his persona. Even if he knows classical guitar. >>>>>see if this one is posted on the list<<<<<<<< Skidoo "out" Young American Primitive kicks ass. Anyone know his career status? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:46:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) More tracklistings wanted On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Benjamin L. May wrote: > > > *Boston Avalon 1997 > > I was at that one! Whoa... I didn't see anyone doing anything > remotely like bootlegging though. Everyone was way too busy dancing and > freaking out. > > Damn I had a good time. Best live show I ever saw. well guys.. i've got good new, and i've got bad news. bad news: you're wrong about the show.. it WAS recorded, as an audence recording.. (well its not really bad, but i proved you wrong ;p) good news: i've got a copy for everybody that wants it.. BUT.. i have a catch.. you all have to wait until at least friday.. ..patience my friends, it will be good. i promise. :) charlie spinning: ufoff - toxygene 7" edit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) Radio 1 & boston & live shows > Just in case anyone missed it/was interested... > > Quick interview with LX beforehand, then they play for nearly 45 > minutes. > > It was billed as a "...greatest hits set..." so they played : > > 1. Perpetual Dawn > 2. Assassin > 3. Toxygene > 4. Little Fluffy Clouds > > Can't wait until Royal Albert Hall! (Week on Thursday!) would anyone be willing to MP3 some of this stuff that us people elsewhere in the world might not be able to hear? I'd also like to hear that live show in Boston. so this radio 1 show was live & not just playing bits from ufoff? ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:56:36 -0500 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. Moby first: I met him at a party once when I was visiting a very good friend of mine in New York City. He's a bit flaky, and his music is very VERY boring. Most of the time, anyway. However, I REALLY enjoyed I Like To Score. I thought that was his best to date. Flames are welcome ;-) Orb: Thanks for the video, Smiley!! It arrived in perfect shape, and is great! I love the video for LFC. Too bad I don't have sound though -- I'm playing it in a NTSC player *lol* Enigma: They used the same sample. I know it. Cheers! ;-) - -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:11:00 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Ambiance And Punk >Maybe someday we'll understand why the Orb put a punk song between two >ambient tracks on John Peel. :) > To make Listmembers complain about it... What else?!? Sorry... I happen to find this quite amusing, rather than distracting... Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:20:32 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) 'Nother ?? In a message dated 10/14/98 8:18:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pulsatingbrain@pemail.net writes: << well, I'm not going to say another word because it makes you sound dumb. >> meanie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:18:35 -0600 From: Orbette Subject: (orb) sample ACK!!! I mean SACRED spirits feeling my foot break through ice orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:21:50 -0600 From: Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. Brian M. Frick schreef: > They used the same sample. I know it. Cheers! ;-) > > -Brian I will wager my right arm, no wait, my left arm I am right handed, that it is Tribal Spirits instead. [Mind you, this from a DJ, THAT's how sure I am ;-)] Could also be perhaps we have misunderstood you. When you say Enigma, what song do you mean? I took it you mean Return to Innocence? If so I can see the similarity but that Tribal Spirits song annoys me to no end, so when I hear anything remotely connected to it I cringe. At the risk of losing my secret password (as if submitting to the list while half awake was not enough) I must say I cringed when I heard Mickey Mars the first time because of that sample. Enigma I can tolerate a little more easily. Holding off on wager till you specify WHICH Enigma song. skating on thin password ice today, ;-p orbette now playing: sean lennon: into the sun cd p.s. i use my promotional copies of moby cd's as coasters for when guests come over. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:35:27 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) ufoff In a message dated 10/14/98 12:53:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Orbfile23@aol.com writes: << Skidoo here, I left a message yesterday saying it wasn't Enigma and that it was "Sacred Sprits"!!! Does anyone not like me, or are my messages not being sent to the list. I knocked that sample off the first time I heard it. The Orb are just silly. :) :) :) :) :) >> skidoo , my friend , you can only do amphetamines for so long........ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:46:46 -0500 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: Re: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. Ok, this is the LAST time :-) Enigma wrote a song. They called it Return to Innocence. They used a sample in it. Now, the Orb wrote a song, too. They called it Mickey Mars. They, too, used a sample. Now this sample from Mickey Mars IS THE SAME, THE ONE AND ONLY AND IDENTICAL SAMPLE, to the one that Enigma used for their song. I think this is what I'm trying to say :-) Forgive my ridiculousness. It's dinner time and I'm hungry. > p.s. i use my promotional copies of moby cd's as coasters for when guests > come over. Hm, I used mine as frizbees to annoy the neighbors. They make quite a din hitting the wall *lol* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:49:42 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Ambiance And Punk In a message dated 10/14/98 6:05:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, spindle@spindlex.com writes: << >Maybe someday we'll understand why the Orb put a punk song between two >ambient tracks on John Peel. :) > >> it is a good song , but i must say , my favorite "reworked" orb albulm ive made , is both peel sessions , minus no fun. Its nearly a full cd , and some of the best songs(imro) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:53:37 -0500 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: (orb) absORBant I came across this little gem in a CD store about 3 weeks ago. It's obviously a bootleg, it looks like a CD-R, suspiciously. Anyway, it's called "absORBant", and it's got the following on it: YMO vs. Orb 1. Tong Poo (Green Herbage Mix) 9:43 2. Tong Poo (Planet of the Crossing Mix) 10:00 3. Tong Poo (House of Bright Colours Mix) 10:07 Wendy and Lisa vs. Orb and Youth 4. Staring at the Sun 8:47 NIN vs. Orb 5. Perfect Drug (Orb Remix) 6:10 Front 242 vs. Orb 6. Crapage (Never Hurry a Murray Mix) 5:30 7. Crapage (The Turd Mix) 5:56 Spectre vs. Orb ???????????????? 8. Spectre Overseas (Orbjects, Overseas, and Oceans) 4:31 Material vs. Orb 9. Mantra (Praying Mantra Mix Edit) 11:20 First, I find it funny when edits are more than 10 minutes long. That just cracks me up. Second, Lazlo, I didn't find this in the Discography. Third, it seems to be readily available at least where I am. Anyone have anything on this? - -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:04:10 EDT From: Catinosboy@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. In a message dated 98-10-14 18:54:01 EDT, bmfrick@students.wisc.edu writes: << > p.s. i use my promotional copies of moby cd's as coasters for when guests > come over. Hm, I used mine as frizbees to annoy the neighbors. They make quite a din hitting the wall *lol* >> Thank God someone else hates Moby as much as I do......I was feeling lonely there for a second.... Brent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:03:19 +0600 From: EP Subject: (orb) FSOL : ISDN SHOW Ok, Ten people (at least) have contacted me about getting the Future Sounds of London ISDN SHOW CD-R so please do not contact me about that anymore. Several people indicated that they'd be interested in distributing it to others or on the web, so eventually, everyone should be able to get it. As to you who mailed me already, as I mentioned before, it may be some time before I can get it CD-R'ed, so please be patient with me. Emmett # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:13:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Babylon Sigma Subject: Re: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. no to continue this lovely thread but. The sample on the orb song is a little different. It contains the beginning of the Enigma sample but not the end. They would seem to overlap.....as if....horror of horrors....they both were sampled from the same place... like so <------orb----> <------enigma------> jon > > Ok, this is the LAST time :-) > > Enigma wrote a song. They called it Return to Innocence. They used a > sample in it. Now, the Orb wrote a song, too. They called it Mickey > Mars. They, too, used a sample. Now this sample from Mickey Mars IS > THE SAME, THE ONE AND ONLY AND IDENTICAL SAMPLE, to the one that Enigma > used for their song. I think this is what I'm trying to say :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:43:43 -0400 From: DJ Fuckall Subject: (orb) about US OFF less tracks... about the US 2nd CD of UFOff having only 7 tracks... don't you think = that's unlikely, being a mixed CD? Unless, they cut it off after 7 = tracks...or butcher it. perhaps they're trying to get people to buy the = UK version? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:16:55 -0500 From: Rob Chauncey Subject: (orb) [Orb] Rec'd my import Got the import (Deutsch) of UF Off today. I think it's good so far -- I like the mixes they've included. Even a reluctant LX/andy is a spectacular producer/engineer team. 'Mickey Mars', though. What is this late-night-tv-pure-moods melody? I like the bassline (like the hardcore part of S.A.L.T), but eech. It'll probably grow on me. There really isn't a band out there that makes me happier. I was overjoyed that the package was there, and UP the stairs, had it ripped open, cd jammed in the player and going before I had my jacket or shoes off. Can't wait for the new stuff. Sorry to ramble, just wanted to share orby feelings with orby peeps. Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:09:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregor Menasian Subject: Re: (orb) about US OFF less tracks... On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, DJ Fuckall wrote: > about the US 2nd CD of UFOff having only 7 tracks... don't you think > that's unlikely, being a mixed CD? Unless, they cut it off after 7 > tracks...or butcher it. perhaps they're trying to get people to buy the > UK version? Or they could be really nasty, and include different tracks on the US bonus CD which aren't on the UK one, so everyone will have to buy both versions to get all of the rare trax :( - -Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:33:05 -0600 From: Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) [Orb] Rec'd my import Rob Chauncey schreef: > Got the import (Deutsch) of UF Off today. I think it's good so far -- I > like the mixes they've included. Even a reluctant LX/andy is a > spectacular producer/engineer team. 'Mickey Mars', though. What is > this late-night-tv-pure-moods melody? THANK YOU!!!!!! The Pure Moods Melody to which Rob refers is in my estimation Sacred Spirits! Not Enigma!! Again I will give you they sound amazing alike. Especially if you have only heard Enigma. But once hearing Sacred Spirits you will have no doubt in your mind the Orb and Sacred Spirits used the same sample source. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU defending this logic till moby puts out a good album!!! LOL orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:34:52 -0600 From: Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) [Orb] Rec'd my import Rob Chauncey schreef: > Got the import (Deutsch) of UF Off today. I think it's good so far -- I > like the mixes they've included. Even a reluctant LX/andy is a > spectacular producer/engineer team. 'Mickey Mars', though. What is > this late-night-tv-pure-moods melody? THANK YOU!!!!!! The Pure Moods Melody to which Rob refers is in my estimation Sacred Spirits! Not Enigma!! Again I will give you they sound amazing alike. Especially if you have only heard Enigma. But once hearing Sacred Spirits you will have no doubt in your mind the Orb and Sacred Spirits used the same sample source. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU defending this logic till moby puts out a good album!!! LOL orbette bullitnuts : lubricious luce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:04:41 -0500 From: blue room Subject: (orb) Sacred Enigmars Well, I just got mine in the mail. Mickey Mars is nothing worth analizing quite this deeply, imo. ;] I sure as hell wouldn't use that sample, but it totally describes the feeling LX and co. had toward the whole thing. MM probably took 15 min to make. Both mixes. Anywho, my highlight from the whole thing: Montagne D'Or (vestax mix). Anyone else love M D'Or? I thought it to be so beautifully noisy. I'm thinking I probably won't get much support on it, though. I guess we'll wait for the new album now... br np: download - _the eyes of stanley pain_ (brought on after hearing Montagne D'Or (vestax mix)) - -- Russell Rawlings http://www.lucidesign.com/home/quicksilver "After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressable is music." --Aldous Huxley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:29:29 -0700 From: "sCt" Subject: Re: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. ><< > p.s. i use my promotional copies of moby cd's as coasters for when >guests > > come over. > > Hm, I used mine as frizbees to annoy the neighbors. They make quite a > din hitting the wall *lol* >> > > Thank God someone else hates Moby as much as I do......I was feeling lonely >there for a second.... > .... I've seen Moby once -- and I emphasize the word SEEN -- I had my earplugs in the whole time -- kinda reminds of the energizer bunny -- BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG -- well I think you get my opinion. - - Scott NP: Something with a melody. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:44:06 -0600 From: Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Sacred Enigmars blue room schreef: > Well, I just got mine in the mail. Mickey Mars is nothing worth analizing > quite this deeply, imo. ;] I sure as hell wouldn't use that sample, but > it totally describes the feeling LX and co. had toward the whole thing. MM > probably took 15 min to make. Both mixes. Agreed. Not bad for filler on a GH package but I will seriously be bummed if it ends up on Cydonia..unless of course it is SERIOUSLY reworked. > Anywho, my highlight from the whole thing: Montagne D'Or (vestax mix). > Anyone else love M D'Or? I thought it to be so beautifully noisy. I'm > thinking I probably won't get much support on it, though. That is me second all time favorite orb song...first all time if you consider LFC is a given. And yes I like it specifically because it is sooo freaking noisy. I find the 2nd peel sessions version to mellow. But that is what i like about Orb, their ability to give such vastly different interpretations of their songs. 'bette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:07:34 +0100 From: RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com Subject: (orb) FSOL Off topic slightly, but on mention of an FSOL listserv, I wondered if anyone here had the e-mail address; a URL is no use, as I have excrutiatingly limited internuts access. Hopefully though I will have net access in a while so I'll actually be able to avail of all the useful music related sites like the orbs ones!!! :) (Arrgghhh thursday...makes you realise Friday is a really long time away, and more than that; its a bloody long day...roll on the revolution (moon revolution that is)) ronan - Nothing is true; everything is permissable. /-----------------------------------------------------------------\ | The views expressed above are my own, and in no way reflect the | | position held by Vision Information Consulting, Belfast. All | | comments are my own, all flaming is off my own back and any | | reference to anything illegal is for the purposes of humour and | | are totally fictitious. | \-----------------------------------------------------------------/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:15:54 EDT From: Orbfile23@aol.com Subject: (orb) Check out http://www.parascope.com/articles/0397/ghost08h.jpg Click here: http://www.parascope.com/articles/0397/ghost08h.jpg\ Skidoo (michael) here, thought you might want to check out this picture. It doesn't look to be real, but Kodak said it was. It was taken in 1917 by a young girl with no photo experience. 'out' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:05:02 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orb) Enigma, Orb, and Moby. >.... I've seen Moby once -- and I emphasize the word SEEN -- I had my BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG -- well I think you get my opinion. I saw Moby once in 91' when he opened for Prodigy. Obviously, from the = way it sounds, this must have been the only enjoyable live show that he = has ever done...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:41:25 -0700 From: Jeremy J Taylor Subject: (orb) Big Life/ Mercury LFC '91 Promo and other stuff I was checking the discog, however I saw nothing about this one. I have a copy of the US Big Life /Mercury LFC 12" Promo single. It uses the cat # as the following from the discog: 12": 1991 US (Big Life/Mercury/Polygram; 865139-1) [Nov 91] 6:10 Little Fluffy Clouds (cumulonimbus mix) 6:38 Little Fluffy Clouds (dis joint don't argue mix) 4:05 Little Fluffy Clouds (seven inch mk 1) ["dance mix mk 1 edit"] 3:58 Little Fluffy Clouds (inner master mix) 8:00 Outlands (fountain of elisha) Track list is the same, however on the back cover it is stamped in gold "Promotional Copy Not for Sale". And the record itself indicates the same quite clearly on both sides (of the label in the center of the record). However, as I said before I saw no promo version of this release indicated on the discoq. Anyone else seen this before? Lazlo, any thoughts? A little side note, got my U.F.Off yesterday. I must say, all though most everything on there I all ready have, I am very happy with the Blue Room Ambient Mix (if only they were to do a 40 minute version of this one, it could be the upgrade to the ever classic original 40 minute version). In fact a double pack release with a new 40 minute version and the original would be phat like that. Mickey Mars is pretty cool to but that chanting gets a little anoying ( I have a marveless recording from a real Pow Wow (I think thats how it's spelt, my spelling is horrid, i know) that would have sounded a lot better. One more note while I'm at it. If anyone out there has purchased Morphology from Isolation Tank, have you noticed that it is missing a few of the tracks indicated on the Discog, as being on Morphology. Obviosly its a CD-R, but I noticed that it is also missing The Blue Room radio edit, and on the last track (Orb Vs. KLF) it says it is 6:02 but it actually clocks in at 3:42, and also the secret simpson snippet is missing as well. Not a very good CD-R of the Bootleg considering its own track list is off and its missing from tracks from the original. Well, sorry to put all this crap on one message, but I like to take care of all my thoughts at once. Happy Trails (yes the good kind of TRAILS), - -Jeremy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:50:16 +0200 From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: Re: (orb) 'Nother ?? the 'original version' of 'towers of dub' is the 'ambient mix' as released on 'orb in dub' along with 'perpetual dawn (ultrabass ii)' (what a stunning version this is). it's definitely not on the kiss e.p., which features 'the roof id on fire' and three mixes of 'kiss your love'. regards niko - -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman "Life's too short for boring music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:10:58 +0100 From: Lee Subject: Re: (orb) ufoff At 12:42 14/10/98 EDT, Orbfile23@aol.com wrote: > > Skidoo here, >I left a message yesterday saying it wasn't Enigma and that it was "Sacred >Sprits"!!! > Does anyone not like me, or are my messages not being sent to the list. I >knocked that sample off the first time I heard it. The Orb are just silly. :) >:) :) :) :) > "OUT" it's not that at all, it's just that you haven't really submitted anything we didn't know before. . .try insulting someone, that will get someone's attention. Lee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:12:55 +0100 From: Lee Subject: Re: (orb) Clear up the Towers of Dub issue. At 12:51 14/10/98 EDT, Orbfile23@aol.com wrote: > > Skidoo here > Real quick, The album version is the 3rd version released and the >"Ambient mix" is the original found on the "Orb in Dub EP". The Patturns and >Textures version is the 4th version. The 'Mad Prof" mix (2nd) is on the "Blue >Room" single. ('Blue Room' came out before U.F.Orb, I have a feeling the album >was mixed before the single was released. U.F. Orb came out 2 weeks later.) >The "P and T" version is just the ambient mix with some more samples thrown >over it. Plus Steve Hillage plays live guitar on all the tracks. This is >reason enough to get the "P and T" recording! "Towers of Dub" is a great track >on the Video soundtrack, but the version of Perpetual Dawn on this recording >is kick ass. As a matter of a fact other than 'LFC' mix the rest of the >recording is certainly not worthy of being missed. Anyone agree that the "P >and T" version of "Outlands" is the best mix of the track. A really driving >version!!!!!!! Oh by the way the visuals for the video are great as well. >Tanks for listening, Doc!!!!!! > Skidoo (michael) > 'OUT' > Np: "Art of Noise" 'The Ambient Collection' Youth and LX always came up >with > some cool shit together. that's better! Lee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #121 *************************