From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #344 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Friday, July 28 2000 Volume 02 : Number 344 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:10:54 GMT From: "Ramon Vink" Subject: (orb) remix Hey dare I was wondering if someone has already spotted remixes of the new Cydonia album. Anyone? monnie ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:27:31 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) (no subject) Liquidw will be melting wax all over the vestax at the night gallery (boca pub , boca raton....palmetto and dixie hwy , next to the 7-11)) on wednesday july 26th , and friday , july 27th lots of orb , squarepusher , aphex , boards , and mbm will be played for more info feel free to caontact me here , or at LiquidW@alienoutpost.com enjoy good times last friday , thanks again anthony+smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: jboyd@altavista.net Subject: (orb) My two cents This is just my opinion, so don't nobody get too upset by this... I've been listening to Cydonia almost constantly since it hit the FTP sites last week, and am very thankful for new Orb stuff. As much as I hate to say it, the album (at least in its current form) fails to blow me away like most of the earlier releases did. One of the main reasons I've always liked the Orb's albums is because they were in that "none of the above" category. Cydonia doesn't totally leave me with that impression, even with the weird samples and stuff. To me, the album doesn't really seem to go far our and break new ground (with the definite exception of Terminus - which is breathtaking, and seems like the next installment in the 'Valley/Plateau' set). Maybe it's the super-fast "jungle" beats that turn me off - I don't know. In the past, the Orb always exhibited a wonderful restraint from relying on breakbeats to carry a song, and opted to focus more on the many layers of music and cool samples instead. Some of the new stuff sounds like it belongs on a soundtrack for the next "Matrix" movie or something. Don't get me wrong... I *do* like the new album, but I'd defintiely have to agree that U.F.Orb and OT are the best things that the Orb has ever done. Those two albums in particular still fill me with awe. I was really hoping that Cydonia would, too. On a side note, when is the long-awaited second FFWD album coming? Terminus reminded me of how awesome the first one is. cheers, Jeff - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:20:43 -0800 From: seofon@a-toi.com (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Not Cydonia, but... >I'd say my least favorite Orb album is "Live 93". [snip] >"Valley" and "Plateau" just doesn't match the >other versions. Blasphemy! That version of "Valley" is king. The first time I heard "Valley" was live on the UFOrb tour, and I was blown away, but then was disappointed when I heard how it was remixed for the LP, etc. The thing about the "Valley" on /Live 93/ is that the EQ is a bit mudskipper. There's a recording of that same performance on one of the Orb bootleg discs that has crisper EQ and really takes the cake. - -=Seofon np: Suns of Arqa /Total Eclipse of the Suns/. Highly recommended East/West dub, with a killer mix by Youth & Greg Hunter! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:00:54 +0100 From: Rowland Atkinson Subject: (orb) 1st Orb video fs/ft Ive got the Orb's video Patterns and Textures (Big Life). Its on Pal format from 1992. I assume it must be pretty rare now. It has videos for many of the tracks from their first album - Adventures beyond the Ultraworld. Interested in any fair trade or cash offer, cheers rA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:53:38 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents Change is good. Deal with it or live in the past. I'm very happy to see the orb using break beats and getting into jungle. Its still the orb too me. LX just acquired a few more hats to wear in his arsenal of audio mayhem. I hear a lot of things in Cydonia that bring me back to 1992. It has totally put a smile on my face. I also am absorbing things that are 'new' for the orb. And it makes my butt move! Its such a nice blend of old and new. Sorry to hear its scaring some orbies to see them going more 'main stream'. Well guess what...electronic music is now pretty main stream so its going to be difficult for them to be so original these days. The orb has a style all their own no matter what type of music is being done. Hell, I'd love to hear a twanged out county album by LX. I'll bet it would sound great...Chill Out. Maybe even some zydico. Final word: the orb is like pizza. its round. Peas, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:19:41 -0400 From: Sylvain Racine Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents exactly, i've always seen the orb for me like pink floyd for another generation... i've discovered the orb at its beginning, and followed the since, i see them change, trip out and all, and i'm gonna see the get old and one day die. Can you imagine that the orb could stop to exist?? of course it can, it's just a band after all :oD back to the orb/floyd comparaison, some some people like the trippy part, some a specific member, some will ditch the band when some member left, some will not like what they're becoming, some will get on the wagon at any time in the lifespan but you can always go thruw the back catalogue... my 2 bucks... NP: massive attack - mezzanine >Change is good. Deal with it or live in the past. I'm very happy to see >the orb using break beats and getting into jungle. Its still the orb too >me. LX just acquired a few more hats to wear in his arsenal of audio >mayhem. I hear a lot of things in Cydonia that bring me back to 1992. It >has totally put a smile on my face. I also am absorbing things that are >'new' for the orb. And it makes my butt move! Its such a nice blend of old >and new. Sorry to hear its scaring some orbies to see them going more 'main >stream'. Well guess what...electronic music is now pretty main stream so >its going to be difficult for them to be so original these days. The orb >has a style all their own no matter what type of music is being done. Hell, >I'd love to hear a twanged out county album by LX. I'll bet it would sound >great...Chill Out. Maybe even some zydico. > >Final word: the orb is like pizza. its round. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer www.infinit.com icq: 20666083 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:41:16 GMT From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents >Change is good. Deal with it or live in the past. OK John, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one... I like change just as much as anybody, after all, if the Orb didn't change, we wouldn't have Orbus Terrarum. BUT, I don't think that the way they are changing right now is a growth or expansion from previous works. I do enjoy Cydonia, but the way I have always seen the Orb is - taking current trends in dance music and stretching/modifying them out to be much more deep and thought provoking than regular "dance" music. This created a very unique sound that I don't believe has been matched to this day. With Pomme Fritz and OT, they changed (and grew) drastically into what I consider their best period yet - still using the underlying dance music sounds but making them into something comletely different & unexpected. However, it seems that with Orblivion and now Cydonia, they went back to regular "dance" music trends on the surface, but didn't alter them as much as in the past. The music seems to have lost something, and I personally feel that this music can be(and is) matched by others... >I'm very happy to see the orb using break beats and getting into >jungle. I like that the Orb does this too, but I think it should still be waaaay out there, and mutated into something that is uniquely Orb. Take the jungle breaks and do something that no one has ever heard, or ever imagined hearing - - then it will be the Orb... I think someone put it nicely when they said that the Orb was always categorized as "other", but now they they don't sound much different than the others. I like the Orb because of the "other". It shows creativity, and with electronica(or whatever) becoming more popular as you mentioned, they should try even harder to be unique and groundbreaking. They've done it several times before, so I'm sure they can do it again. daryl "Me? A job? Were they serious? I didn't realize it at the time, but a little piece of my childhood had slipped away forever" - - Bart Simpson ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:21:38 EDT From: Hugeous@aol.com Subject: (orb) Cydonia, the giant whale turd My review of Cydonia: All Killer, No Filler. To me, the Orb is like a big ol' space-whale, floating through the atmosphere, swallowing various trends in dance music like plankton (bear with me here). Every once in a while, the whale takes a nice big dump, a new Orb album. (if you want to continue this metaphor -- and who wouldn't -- you could say the various Orb mixes that get released in between albums are lil' whale farts). Uh, let's see...we dry that big whale turd in the sun for a bit, roll it into a big fat spliff, and enjoy. The taste is always a little different, depending on what was eaten beforehad, but it always tastes like the Orb! Jesus, what the hell am I smoking here? OK, i'll stop now. Cydonia, to me, is a more succesful Orblivion, which is too "cluttered" for me. The progression, for one, is terrific! --from the smooth as silk "pop" of the first tracks (and dammit, I love pop music) to the dubby excursions of "Lard" to the amazing smack-me-upside-my-head "Yungle"...and then the closing Terminus, which is like a little nod to all us folks who love the first album so. Speaking of which, I had been pretty burned out on the Orb, and I honestly wasn't expecting Cydonia to thrill me. Boy was I wrong. It kicked me right in the ass and now i've got a big stack of my orb collection sitting in front of the stereo....and listening to each piece I think, oh yeah, THATS why i love the Orb.... Now i'm gonna grab another chunk of that dried whale turd, fire it up, and listen to the Blue Pearl "Mother Dawn" 12" I just got in the mail... Lino # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:55:54 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia, the giant whale turd yet another reason to love the orb: orb fans pass the that turd this way!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:34:03 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents daryl wrote: I think someone put it nicely when they said that the Orb was always categorized as "other", but now they they don't sound much different than the others. I like the Orb because of the "other". It shows creativity, and with electronica(or whatever) becoming more popular as you mentioned, they should try even harder to be unique and groundbreaking. They've done it several times before, so I'm sure they can do it again. ===>I think it would be almost impossible for the orb to now be considered "other". The orb is the well that all other dipped into and there are plenty dipping these days. The only way I see the orb as being fresh is to dig a new well. That would mean ending the orb as we know it to venture off into uncharted lands once more. I'm not sure I want that to happen just yet. I like Cydonia. Allot! So there! You had to figure that the rest of the world would catch up to the orb sooner or later. It seems that the orb has been engulfed by people they have influenced. I love it. The orb spawned some really cool shit! Now let the boys relax and have some fun here. They broke the ground now let them play in it. Hey D! Loaf & Peas, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:00:43 GMT From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents John sarcastically quipped: >The only way I see the orb as being fresh is to dig a new well. (and then gave some half arsed reasons as to why not to dig a new well) I say go ahead and dig the new well! Explore brand new territory wherever possible - that's what's so exciting about electronic music (to me). I started listening to electronic music almost exclusively because I got tired of the "rock" sound. If I want guitars, I'll go straight to the source - - Led Zeppelin baby! Will electronic music go the same way? Will we be bombarded with a bunch of formulaic crap playing off of the inventiveness and creativity of others? Well, at least I'll have U.F.Off and OT to listen to - nobody can take those away! >The orb spawned some really cool shit! Now let the boys relax and >have >some fun here I respectfully disagree. No relaxing, now get back to work f*!#ing with my head! John, we're friends and all, so no disrespect. Everybody's got their opinions - we'll settle this in person! j/k visualize whirled peas, daryl "I heard John's never done acid!" - - some guy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:08:25 GMT From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: (orb) oops ( and Montagne D'or question) Im my last post I inadvertantly wrote: "at least I'll have U.F.Off and OT to listen to - nobody can take those away!" but I meant to say "U.F.Orb" Although U.F.Off is worth it for the Vestax mix of Montagne D'Or alone. Does this appear anywhere else? Are there other Orb mixes that sound like this? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) andy interview Andy Hughes - (The Orb) Live Performance (London/UK)- http://www.raveworld.net/_global/?http://shows.raveworld.net/index.cgi?uid=& view_show=1&ID=565 Andy Hughes-interview 6/1/00- http://acw.activate.net/dublab/hughes2.ram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) fsol question... Dear Music Friends! Would someone be willing to trade a copy of fsol's "ISDN Show" with me (live bootleg broadcast via ISDN)? The format is not that important (cdr or mp3). If you're interested in a trade e-mail me privately... Thanx! Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:15:19 PDT From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Cydonia, plus non-orb: fear, lovecraft, etc. >Speaking of Burton and Elfman, I watched Sleepy Hollow >the other night. I know a lot of people (critics included) didn't >like it, but I thought it was one of Burton's best to date--I >was quite impressed with it. Some genuine scares, too--the >atmosphere was phenomenal.... ' I thought it wasn't scary at all--stuff that makes you jump isn't so much scary as gross out/surprising.... True scary is like HP Lovecraft methinks, where you look over your shoulder while reading and it stays with you long after you've read it... I hate horror films/books like King, Wes Craven, etc. cuz, IMHO, gore and gross out does not constitute scary. Nor does a serial killer or something, I think. I mean, scary to me is something beautiful in a way, an eerie ambience.... I think eeriness is a beautiful thing, anybody else know what I mean? Am I just going off on my own tangent nobody else gets? Erm, I wannabe a filmmaker so I really am INTO this kind of stuff, defintions of fear, etc.... ORB RELATED I'm not listening to the mp3 versions of Cydonia cuz I figure, you know, I'm waiting for the official release and while every "true Orb fan" on this list is going to buy the album anyway, I think it's probably better to wait and listen to the album as it was meant to be listened to, y'know? In no way am I putting down those who've listened to it, but that's my feeling on it ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:30:22 PDT From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Dreams, Floaty feelings I've had the sensation of floating, hitting the ceiling, etc... Most memorably when I had a fever and swore I was floating off the bed when i was like 6.... But sometimes when I'm in bed I feel like that. Speaking of OOBEs, it seems as I get older (i'm only 17 though), my dreams are getting more vivid and weird, whereas most people I know say their dream lives decrease with age... Anyway, I've been having some pretty weird, ambient-ish dreams, most recently one where I went to an orb concert for the first time in the middle of a mall, then woke up ticked off cuz I've never been to an Orb concert yet.... I was going somewhere with this but I forgot... hmmmm.,. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:47:37 PDT From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Orb's musical directions, ambient info Orb seems to go in a new direction with every album, and I love the Orb and it seems to me that whenever they go in a new direction it takes everybody else (at least, me) a while to catch up. I got ABTU on a whim I love it. I got Orbus Terrarum and thought it was self indulgent and boring and now I love it--Valley + Plateau kind of hit one night after a dance when I was lying there, chilling out and realized this is intangible music--it evokes empty desert plateaus as the moon slowly wanes and it's GENIUS. Orblivion seemed to dancey to me at first, now I love it and I'm sure the same will happen with Cydonia.... My new catchphrase which I'm using for my band's "tag" which no one can use but me: AMBIENT WILL NEVER DIE.... BECAUSE AMBIENT WILL NEVER REALLY LIVE.... I was thinking about it.... Ambient is so great, cuz its popular enough to be in some record shops and available, but unpopular enough to be unexplored and flexible and strange/boring enough so that we'll never get "posers" into the ambient "arena" (other than those *new agers* >:( Ambient is so infinitely explorable and doesn't have a scene to thrive in..... It's mostly heard in bedrooms and on headphones not in clubs or ads, and since it defies being danceable it'll never become popular enough to be crippled by its own popularity. It becomes interesting in waves, when culture takes some notice of it and then ignores it again.... That's my little speech, sorrry. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: woadspiral Subject: (orb) LXP date Sorry if this has already been posted, my mail is screwy atm - just got my birthday invite to the next RTTS bash, the flyer advertises LX playing. Its Sat 12 August at Cloudnine, Catch 23 in London to any UK lister, 7 quid a ticket in advance. cheers all woadie _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:01:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) fsol question... Dear Music Friends! Would someone be willing to trade a copy of fsol's "ISDN Show" with me (live bootleg broadcast via ISDN)? The format is not that important (cdr or mp3). If you're interested in a trade e-mail me privately... Thanx! Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:01:48 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Fw: (orb) Not Cydonia, but... : > The thing about the "Valley" on /Live 93/ is that the EQ is a bit : > mudskipper. There's a recording of that same performance on one of : > the Orb bootleg discs that has crisper EQ and really takes the cake. : any idea which one, Seofon? and is it on the OAA, or still available? eric³ :':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':':' :':': :.: web developer . pixel pusher :.: http://www.ZeroChaos.com :.: http://users.drak.net/zenlab :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: :.: www.ScreamDesign.com :.: the learning source for the next generation. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:42:24 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) andy interview HOLY BALLS!! Andy is incredible! Rave World is a cool site too. Yall must go see and listen. Thanks for the clue Anthony. Loaf & Peas, Moxygene Andy Hughes - (The Orb) Live Performance (London/UK)- http://www.raveworld.net/_global/?http://shows.raveworld.net/index.cgi?uid=& view_show=1&ID=565 Andy Hughes-interview 6/1/00- http://acw.activate.net/dublab/hughes2.ram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:31:17 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Orb's musical directions, ambient info > Ambient is so great, cuz its popular enough to > be in some record shops and available, but > unpopular enough to be unexplored and flexible > and strange/boring enough so that we'll never > get "posers" into the ambient "arena" (other > than those *new agers* >:( This kind of pigeonholing and genre factionalism is really silly. I don't consider the Orb to be "ambient" any more than I consider them to be "drum & bass," "big beat," "trance," "trip-hop" or whatever the latest trendy label might be. "That's not drum & bass; it's tech-step." "That's not trance; it's deep house." "That's not ambient; it's new age." "That's not trip-hop; it's big beat." Anyone *creating* music who adheres to and locks themselves into these goofy, arbitrary categories is really missing the boat. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:10:28 -0400 From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) ANOTHER POINTLESS SURVEY If you have a tail on your mouse pointer AND you have done any kind of psychedelic- send a message. There's got to be a connection!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:22:10 GMT From: "e. lanum" Subject: (orb) samplesplaya so i picked up a 12" about 4 months ago called 'the orb instore sampler' whats the deal on this? they also had one by kraftwerk and klf ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:54:38 -0400 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Fw: [idm] Fw: [idm] Orb and Cydonia I saw a post at the bottom of someone's e-mail on the IDM mailing list (quite an annoying unfocused, burdening list).. It stuck in the middle of this message. My reply is at the bottom, and look what another happy poster replied with (at the top)... I know some other people on the list know what really is the casue of the split better than i... Sean > i wonder if Alex Paterson is a total dick to work with or something ... it > seems like every orb album that comes out, he's got a new keyboard whiz, > and then they quit before the next album comes out. he should learn to > tickle them ivories his own damn self and get more productive... > > -- > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Sean Wolfe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > shaun > > > > p.s. is anyone else pissed off about the orb not releasing their > > > > goddamned "cydonia" > > > > > > Well, lots reasons why this isn't happen... One is becasue the Big suits at > > Island don't feel it's ready for the market... And the other is the > > unfortunate departure of Andy Huges... Due to this, they are remixing all of > > the music and removing a lot of his added performances... Hence an even > > longer delay... > > > > But the Original Version of Cydonia has been doing it's rounds lately. Keep > > an eye out for it.. It's pretty interesting... > > > > Sean > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:23:24 -0500 From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (orb) orbscure trax spotted for those searching... (not my auction so don't bitch to me, just trying to help those searching) orbscure trax up on ebay, listed as orbus terrarum plus bonus cd... currently 7.75... sorry if you are the high bidder currently and i just unleashed the hounds... Item #390028334 again, not my auction, just trying to be helpful lysergic ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:52:35 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) My two cents I totally agree. I'm into all kinds of electronic music - and some choice 'traditional' music. In past threads, other orbies of kind of frowned on this - variety of music, they said is what made them dig the orb's music so much. The spectrum of sounds in the orb's work is what has hooked most of us in. Cydonia just has new sounds and new spectrums. I enjoy progressive music - both in a microcosm/macrocosm perspective. Microcosm = the internal progression of each song. and songs across an album. The orb is extremely proficient at this. I mean every album is like a story book - an individual tale. plots, climaxes, & resolutions are all words, and theories you can use generously when discussing the orb's music. Macrocosm = the progression of an artist over the course of their career. The orb has just reached a new space. and if that space, that spectrum is chock full of breaks and jungle ("hardware" as LX referred to it - Joe from FL knows what I'm talking about.) I'm generally impressed with cydonia. however, one tidbit that is getting glossed over: This is a first generation unproduced version of their album. It's like a book with it's chapters all mixed up. I mean, would the orb really slap 3 vocal tracks at the beginning of an album? Pomme Fritz was sick, but this is just plain silly. - -eric btw - zydico - which i was recently informed of is new orleans style of party music. the music made to dance to while holding a drink. from how it was described to me i think the orb could probably do it proper by peppering some calypso-funk-dub with a bit of zydico. : Change is good. Deal with it or live in the past. I'm very happy to see : the orb using break beats and getting into jungle. Its still the orb too : me. LX just acquired a few more hats to wear in his arsenal of audio : mayhem. I hear a lot of things in Cydonia that bring me back to 1992. It : has totally put a smile on my face. I also am absorbing things that are : 'new' for the orb. And it makes my butt move! Its such a nice blend of old : and new. Sorry to hear its scaring some orbies to see them going more 'main : stream'. Well guess what...electronic music is now pretty main stream so : its going to be difficult for them to be so original these days. The orb : has a style all their own no matter what type of music is being done. Hell, : I'd love to hear a twanged out county album by LX. I'll bet it would sound : great...Chill Out. Maybe even some zydico. : Final word: the orb is like pizza. its round. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:33:25 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) Cydonia track order > This is a first generation unproduced version > of their album. It's like a book with it's > chapters all mixed up. I mean, would the orb > really slap 3 vocal tracks at the beginning of > an album? I have to disagree here. It's all speculation, but personally I don't think the order of the songs is random or arbitrary; I think it's carefully thought-out. And it makes lots of sense, to me at least... anyone else? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:02:48 -0500 From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Buckwheat Zydeco > btw - zydico - which i was recently informed of is new orleans style > of party music. the music made to dance to while holding a drink. from > how it was described to me i think the orb could probably do it proper > by peppering some calypso-funk-dub with a bit of zydico. ===>I've always described zydeco as "accordian rock music." Well, it's the closest thing I can think of to describe it--the stuff is absolutely amazing. There was a car commercial here in the states that ran last year that started off with some Cajun guy (i.e., Louisiana) saying, "Welcome to de swaaaaamp!" which I thought would be a WONDERFUL sample.... I wish I had recorded that. Oh--and another wonderful sample I keep forgetting to record, from The Simpsons (the episode where Lisa babysits for Bart), after Reverend Lovejoy says, "And the band Testament will be playing in the church social hall on Saturday evening," Bart simply scoffs and says, "All the BEST bands are affiliated with Satan." I LOVE that quote! I really need a vacation.... Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:15:35 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order : > This is a first generation unproduced version : > of their album. It's like a book with it's : > chapters all mixed up. I mean, would the orb : > really slap 3 vocal tracks at the beginning of : > an album? : : I have to disagree here. It's all speculation, but personally I don't think : the order of the songs is random or arbitrary; I think it's carefully : thought-out. And it makes lots of sense, to me at least... anyone else? the main reason i can tell that this probably not going to be the real track order is that most of the songs aren't fluently mixed - there aren't sounds from the previous track haunting the first few moments of the next... even when i burned the cd with the 'all-at-once' option - the first three tracks just don't flow - now the rest of the album does have that flow - but not up to the level that the orb is capable of. that was my point. and was just an opinion. -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #344 *************************