From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #345 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Monday, July 31 2000 Volume 02 : Number 345 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:35:25 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia track order > the main reason i can tell that this probably > not going to be the real track order is that > most of the songs aren't fluently mixed - there > aren't sounds from the previous track haunting > the first few moments of the next... I think the little "glitches" you're referring to between and at the beginning of tracks may have to do more with sloppy MP3 encoding than with any errors on the band's part. Having said that, though, I'd like to mention that this album is one of the *better* ripping-to-MP3 jobs I've heard, especially for an album where songs are supposed to "flow" or be mixed/crossfaded together. In my (limited) experience, there's usually a *worse* "gap" between MP3 tracks that are meant to be seamlessly mixed than I've noticed with the Cydonia tracks. Not to mention that there are usually worse problems with digital noise and encoding artifacts... So overall I commend the mystery person who ripped this, but the little hiccups you mention (assuming we're talking about the same thing) are, I suspect, MP3 problems that I'd guess don't exist on the original CD-Rs. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:50:38 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:35:25AM -0500, John Goelzer wrote: > are supposed to "flow" or be mixed/crossfaded together. In my (limited) > experience, there's usually a *worse* "gap" between MP3 tracks that are This has a lot to do with your MP3 player as well. I've noticed that some believe that continuous mixes are not welcome and introduce gaps into songs. I've seen this with some tools that rip to CD as well. Very annoying. The xmms player under Unix can play continuous mixes without a hitch. I've just used cdparanoia and lame to encode tracks from my own CD's and the continuous mixes stay continuous. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dance while you can. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:17:03 -0700 From: PGW Subject: (orb) Re: Cydonia Track Order If you want to run the songs together, which works well, you should find a free audio editor. I used sound PPC(MAC) and I converted the sounds to a different format AIFF and then imported them into Audio Desk (MOTU). The songs flow together and I believe they are ment to be in the order they're in. You can save the whole album as one file and then burn it to CD. There's a lot more freeware to do this for a PC. You could use Sonic Foundry Sound Forge as an editor to bring the songs together. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:41:13 EDT From: ALLENST@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order johng@engberganderson.com writes: << In my (limited) experience, there's usually a *worse* "gap" between MP3 tracks that are meant to be seamlessly mixed than I've noticed with the Cydonia tracks. Not to mention that there are usually worse problems with digital noise and encoding artifacts... So overall I commend the mystery person who ripped this, but the little hiccups you mention (assuming we're talking about the same thing) are, I suspect, MP3 problems that I'd guess don't exist on the original CD-Rs. JG >> I concur. Having just spent hours over the past 3 days re-editing the tunes in Wavelab, I can say that most of the decoded waves had a section of the ending waveform directly repeated and pasted on the end along with a snippet of other waveform which didnt fit there. If you listened closely, you could hear a sort of out of sync loop and time glitch when it kicked to the next song. I tried decoding using a couple different programs and got the same results. I also found a few glitches within the middle of songs, evident on the downloaded MP3s. So after alot of time looking at tunes at the sample level waveforms, I finally have a removed a few glitches and smoothed the transitions so they sound as intended. Overall, the MP3s do seem to fit quite nicely, though taking the time to clean them up really does make it much nicer if you try to make your own continuous play MP3 or CD. I know my own CDR sounds absolutely lovely as I motor the mean streets of Los Angeles :) Ciao, SA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:34:00 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) LIVE>>>>>>friday night all the music you hate to love , but need to live TONITE FRIDAY its going to be non-stop beatin on wax with "the G.I. Project" tonite. friday , june 28th 2000 palmetto park road , and dixie hwy....the north-west corner in the lovely boca raton......pull into the 7-11 parking lot , the boca pub is on the left side jungle , drum and bass , IDM , whatever you wanna call it i'll be there. for any info call me at 954 868 8709 , or the boca pub at 561-392-8578 LiquidW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:50:16 -0400 From: "James Drysdale" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order I'd have to agree with the consensus that the order of the songs is intentional, and that they weren't just plopped onto the CD in any order. > I mean, would the orb > really slap 3 vocal tracks at the beginning of > an album? I think the vocal tracks at the beginnning are a great way to start the album. I don't think I would classify track 2 as a 'vocal' track, though. I don't know if my musical tastes are evolving with the Orb, of if the Orb is evolving my musical tastes, but Cydonia (this version, anyway) has to be one of my all-time favourites. james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:51:16 -0700 From: "Eben Sorkin" Subject: (orb) About this Cydonia thing.... I have been listening to the new orb alot now & this is my experience: At first it wasn't all that wonderful. It was very nice but i felt like the complaining list members - that Cydonia it wasn't a great leap ahead - just more Orblivion with a twist - which was good but not so great as all the others - IMNSHO of course. Then something wonderful happened, like alot of music that ends up being my favorite stuff in the long term, Cydonia started to grow on me - it's still growing. This never happend with Orblivon. Except with Toxigene. That was the BOMB! Keep spining it - it will probably grow on you too. There is more here than meets the ear right away - just like OT. Give it time folks. Let it sink in. I also think that all the waiting for Cydonia has made everybody (including me) impatient for another Mind Blowing Experience. MBEs don't happen on demand. The other tghing is that there is no telling whther the released version won't be sharper & tighter than this one. For example: if you listen to "U.F.Orb" & then the same song on U.F.Off it sounds sweeter & bigger & more mind blowing. I like both but it may be that a bigger sweeter sound awaits!!! Smiley, do you know anything about the tweakage that went into UFOFF? LX & company have done a really fab job for quite a while now. I would happly hand over $50 to the Orb just to say thanks for everything so far - they can do whatever they want as far as I am concerned - even sell out like champs next time - if thats what they want. I have no issues with them. Cheers! & many thanks out - expecially to the heavy contributors on the list. - -e. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:29:40 -0400 From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) My two cents Will you all pleas QUIT complaining about Cyd... How many of you have done what the Orb has done, or even close. Anyone who has done as good a job on a CD as Syd I want to hear it. If not, I dont want to hear it! Nirvana was considered experimental in the early days because they couldn't play there instruments worth crap. If they came out with another Bleach people would have stopped listening to them. If the Orb came out with another OT we all would say, I herd that already. To me, The Orb is grate because they know what sounds good, not because they are different. If I run a CD with house music through a bunch of FX I get a new OT. They are growing up, so should we. Dance ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:43:57 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) OAA Curator? Hello, Could the OAA curator drop me a note. I'd like to talk about some mirroring stuff... - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dance while you can. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:45:00 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents Nirvana mentioned on the orb list! Blasphemy! Well, at least they killed spandex bands. Thanks for that Kurt where ever you are. +) John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:53:02 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 02:50:16PM -0400, James Drysdale wrote: > I'd have to agree with the consensus that the order of the > songs is intentional, and that they weren't just plopped > onto the CD in any order. I don't think any artist does that. While reading through the history of Information Society (www.insoc.org) the lead artist had a long bit about the order and selection of tracks on their second album, Hack. If the Orb has shown us anything, it's that production is just as important as the raw music itself. It's what makes the experience an experience... - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dance while you can. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:53:47 -0400 From: Mike Goldman Subject: (orb) Andy Hughes in Pgh Hey -- I've been on this list for awhile now, generally lurking because I don't have much time to post, and others have a lot more interesting things to say about the Orb than me. I'm a long-time fan, though, and I'm really excited to have Andy Hughes coming to Pittsburgh on September 15 to play live at Club Laga. Anyhow, if anyone is interested in this, let me know off-list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:07:51 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents > Will you all pleas [sic] QUIT complaining about Cyd. > How many of you have done what the Orb has done, or > even close. Anyone who has done as good a job on a > CD as Syd [sic] I want to hear it. This is uncalled for. To suggest that we (arguably the most "hardcore" Orb fans) shouldn't offer opinions about or critique the new album is ludicrous. > Nirvana was considered experimental in the early days > because they couldn't play there [sic] instruments > worth crap. By you, maybe. > If they came out with another Bleach people would > have stopped listening to them. Speak for yourself. I would have preferred another Bleach to Nevermind. Butch Vig is great and all, but it's Jack Endino that really defined the Seattle / Sub Pop sound for me. When the Fluid and Nirvana started recording with Butch and Mudhoney starting recording with Billy Childish is when the whole cohesiveness of the Seattle / Sub Pop sound started to fall apart for me. Not to mention the whole co-opting of the scene by the mainstream, which would have certainly been less likely to happen with an Endino production, IMO. > If the Orb came out with another OT we all would say, > I herd [sic] that already. I hate to sound like a broken record, but speak for yourself. There are many who have already posted to the list recently about Cydonia who've made it pretty obvious that they would have *preferred* another OT. Maybe we should all avoid talking in such absolutes when we're really expressing personal opinions, no? > To me, The Orb is grate [sic]... Finally, a qualifier! > If I run a CD with house music through a bunch of FX > I get a new OT. I'm not even gonna touch this one. > They are growing up, so should we. Take your own advice, please. Opinions are like assholes: everybody has one. I think we'd all do well to keep that in mind and stop trying to project our own opinions and reactions to Cydonia onto everyone else. But that doesn't mean I don't want to hear them; on the contrary, please keep them coming! I personally enjoy reading all the "reviews," but bristle at absolutes like "The Orb is ______" or "The Orb isn't ______" or "nobody likes _____" or "everybody likes _____" or "the best Orb album was _____" or what-have-you. Thoroughly enjoying the wide range of reactions (including this latest lunacy)... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:50:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order > the main reason i can tell that this probably not going to be the real > track order is that most of the songs aren't fluently mixed - there > aren't sounds from the previous track haunting the first few moments > of the next... even when i burned the cd with the 'all-at-once' > option - the first three tracks just don't flow - now the rest of the > album does have that flow - but not up to the level that the orb is > capable of. that was my point. and was just an opinion. this is the encoding I think. I haven't heard the mp3s, but the original CDR has the 'bits of the next song before the end of the current song' thing you're talking about. I can't really get into the groove til track 4 either tho. ghostdancing ruins it for me! a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:08:37 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) samplesplaya Unfortunately, a bootleg (though rather clever)... ...The KLF one was as well (had spelling mistakes - mislabelled mixes, etc), so I'm assuming that the Kraftwerk one was the same... Sister Ray in London are selling both so if you're interested... Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > so i picked up a 12" about 4 months ago called 'the orb instore sampler' > whats the deal on this? > they also had one by kraftwerk and klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:08:38 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia in Japan > Hasn't Cydonia been on sale in Japan...with bonus tracks...for > about a year > and a half now? Wish it had....!!! Anyhow, it's now got a release date (possibly UK only?) of 23rd October according to Sirendisc (www.sirendisc.com)... Wonder what the CD will sound like without Andy's stuff? Laters, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:57:10 -0700 From: "Dj Casey" Subject: Re: (orb) remix > > Hey dare > > I was wondering if someone has already spotted remixes of the new Cydonia > album. Anyone? > > monnie Just the Bedrock Dub of Once More, very groovin BTW. On another remix note, DMC did a trancy dub remix of AHEGPB minus the vocals :) I just ordered it, and I can't wait to drop it into my set!!! cheers all Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:45:43 -0400 From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) My two cents I was just telling my opinion also. No hard feelings but maybe, just maybe if people can complain about how the Orb isn't doing what they want them to do then I can say why im not happy with that. Dance ps, I didnt mean to imply that OT is crap run through FX, but the Orb could take crap off the bottom of my shoe and make it taste like chocolate and peanut butter. we > should > all avoid talking in such absolutes when we're really expressing > personal > opinions, no? > > > To me, The Orb is grate [sic]... > > Finally, a qualifier! > > > If I run a CD with house music through a bunch of FX > > I get a new OT. > > I'm not even gonna touch this one. > > > They are growing up, so should we. > > Take your own advice, please. > > Opinions are like assholes: everybody has one. I think we'd all do > well to > keep that in mind and stop trying to project our own opinions and > reactions > to Cydonia onto everyone else. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:27:34 -0400 From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) My two cents > Nirvana mentioned on the orb list! Blasphemy! Well, at least they > killed > spandex bands. Thanks for that Kurt where ever you are. +) > > John Hey now, I used to really dig Nirvana and grew up in Seattle. I was considered a nerd until Smells Like Teen Spirit came out and my "grung" band became cool and we got to play lots of drunken jock partys, and nothing is better than messin with a bunch of passed out high schoolers. At least thats what I thought until I had sex and a fat bowl to smoke. Dance ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:59:59 -0400 From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) Orb's musical directions, ambient info > "That's not drum & bass; it's tech-step." > "That's not trance; it's deep house." > "That's not ambient; it's new age." > "That's not trip-hop; it's big beat." > > Anyone *creating* music who adheres to and locks themselves into > these > goofy, arbitrary categories is really missing the boat. > > > > JG Ya, finally someone is speaking my thoughts. I get asked all the time what kind of music I play and at first I tried to explain it to people but now I just say country. Its not country but its not ambient. Actually I try to mix it all up in a single song if I can, as I said B4, you could run Club MTV through a few FX and it would sound like "ambient" music. And thats what I do, get a fucken bad ass beat going, get some generic break going and when you think you are ready to get up and dance I'll run it through some reverb and a tap delay and brake it down so you sit back down. Its not about a style, its about your style. You may not like Cydonia or Live 93' or ultraworld but thats the Orb. So do you like the Orb? I love them, (even "No Fun") Dance ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:43:22 +0100 From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) My two cents nope - this was a finished/mixed/produced/eq-ed/ready-to-go version of the album at that time. there was then the one track change (Jam On Yer Honey for Freely Wheely) a little later, but the version that has been put up does flow on the actual cd-r, so i guess the mp3 encoding/players has had some affect on the transition from track to track. btw - three vocal tracks at the start? promis (track 2) is certainly not what i'd call a vocal track, seeing as there aren't any vocals! has this been uploaded/downloaded in the right order??? hmmm... - --- Smiley > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-orb@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of zenlabŪ > Sent: 28 July 2000 03:53 > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) My two cents > > I'm generally impressed with cydonia. however, one tidbit that is > getting glossed over: > > This is a first generation unproduced version of their album. It's > like a book with it's chapters all mixed up. > > I mean, would the orb really slap 3 vocal tracks at the beginning of > an album? Pomme Fritz was sick, but this is just plain silly. > > -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:48:38 -0700 From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) Freely Wheely Is it me or does the bass line of Freely Wheely sound just like one of the bass lines from Ultraworld? - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dance while you can. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:08:00 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?emVubGFirg==?= Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia track order Perhaps, if you would be so kind, re-rip the tracks for the OAA - ? I have mad code skills but have had little time to really explore sound creation, and editing tools. peace. eric. np: kruder and dorfmeister: deep sh*t part one and two (g-stoned ep) SA said: > So after alot of time looking at tunes at the sample level waveforms, I > finally have a removed a few glitches and smoothed the transitions so they > sound as intended. Overall, the MP3s do seem to fit quite nicely, though > taking the time to clean them up really does make it much nicer if you try to > make your own continuous play MP3 or CD. I know my own CDR sounds absolutely > lovely as I motor the mean streets of Los Angeles :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:43:55 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?emVubGFirg==?= Subject: Re: (orb) GhostDancing (Cydonia track order) : this is the encoding I think. I haven't heard the mp3s, but the original : CDR has the 'bits of the next song before the end of the current song' : thing you're talking about. : : I can't really get into the groove til track 4 either tho. ghostdancing : ruins it for me! me too. and while we're on the subject of ghostdancing - has anyone seen thunderheart ? with Val Kilmer? they spoke of ghostdancing in the same context as wounded knee - they were ghost dancing when the "white devils" slaughtered them on that fateful day. thought it was interesting. ... also, I generally agree with you all. this is the first orb album that I did not receive from the source as it were, and many things outside of the orb's control has contributed to my somewhat 'bad' experience. don't get me wrong - I still love cydonia. and love the orb. I will just have to bide my time till the official release - and will hold final judgment then # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:53:35 -0700 From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) sex, sluts, & heaven I was browsing through Satellite Records and found this V/A LP called Sex, Sluts, & Heaven....with the Orb on it.... just passing it along,...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:43:39 +0200 From: "B.Umans" Subject: Re: (orb) GhostDancing (Cydonia track order) Well, the ghostdancing could also be from the Doors movie. Jim Morrison had alot of trips involving dancing with indians. B-Electronic > me too. and while we're on the subject of ghostdancing - has anyone seen > thunderheart ? with Val Kilmer? > > they spoke of ghostdancing in the same context as wounded knee - they were > ghost dancing when the "white devils" slaughtered them on that fateful day. > > thought it was interesting. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: dRoP Subject: (orb) sigh dough knee awe just got xtra baked and listened to it on headphones ... mmmm ... easy to compare to 'u.f. orb,' as they've not had stuff like 'freely wheely' and 'turn it down' since then ... i can see the 'orblivion' comparisons, but i think it's much deeper and not as schizophrenic (and no throwaway trax like 'log,' which was okay but kinda filler imho) ... someone mentioned a familiar element on 'terminus' besides the ffwd stuff - i'm hearing a kind of echoey knocking sound which reminds me a lot of the one at the beginning of 'assasin' ... and i LIKE 'ghost dancing'! it's certainly not any more fragrantly commercial than 'toxygene' - can't wait to burn it onto cd and spin it out ... would anyone have a problem with this? as a journalist, i don't think it's any different than spinning out a promo copy (which i, and other djs, often do), and if people like it they'll buy it when it comes out. last thing - i highly (!) recommend listening to it on winamp, as you can hook up the geiss visual plug-in and freak out ... it does things to 'cydonia' that i've never seen it do with anything else, so it seems the software has good taste! ;)> steve0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:35:52 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Cydonia samples Hi,folks I did not follow that whole cydonia sample discussion,but here``s some stuff I found. There``s a german sample in ghost dancing: "eins...wo bist du ....ich kann"(ca 3:00),what means "one...where are you...I can..".Don``t know what it is. Besides GD reminds me very much on Peace orchestra,I think the synthie-loop is coming from Kruder``s brilliant record.The synthies of once more sound like Jamiroquai I think. Turn it down contains a piano loop from eno-wobble``s spinner. Ralf,Freely Wheely and Terminus are my favourite tracks,Terminus uses something from FFWD,am I right? Another nice chapter. Cy, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:11:06 -0700 From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: (orb) .bin upload to OAA Whoever attempted to upload the .bin image to the OAA, please contact me....... Thanks, *MoonDogg* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:47:00 +0100 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) cydonia cydonia - a couple of weeks on - still growing on me really really like it thanks to the donor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #345 *************************