From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #347 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Monday, August 7 2000 Volume 02 : Number 347 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:56:50 -0600 From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Another sample spotting... Wait, you're right. I listened again with my good headphones, and voila. I heard the sneezy and dopey blah blah blah. I heard the great pain and bend over and automatically thought of the Live 93 sample. Bad me Anthony Bryan wrote:sounds like a reading of snow white & the 7 dwarves to me. happy, sneezy, > dopey, etc? > > ant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Knitting Factory - Hollywood Hey, Just got off the phone with the KF who told me Alex is definately on for September 1st. Couldn't give me an "on sale" or a price though. I subbed to their email list though so opefully we will know soon. Maybe Smiley can add something to this??? martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:34:53 EDT From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) ( orb ) Alex at the Knitting Factory It is in the current Village Voice and it is also in the calendar at the site too ....12$ in advance 14$ day of show.(But I will be out of town) :( - --- - - -- - -- - - Chris in NYC - - -- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Orbvs Terrarvm - Review Looking through some old NME's ( knew I kept them for something) I found the review for Orbvs. I couldn't find it posted anywhere on the net, although I didn't look very hard, so I 'm going to type it out. Apologies if this is considered old hat, but I thought it an interesting parallel with the whole Cydonia thing, change in line up, long time since last release, problems within the band etc. The reviewer, although entitled to his opinion, is, in mine, full of shit for the most part and seems to e sitting on the fence. But anyway, here it is..... CEASAR GOOD! THE ORB ORBVS TERRRVM (Island) "Have the Orb really lost it? An unashamedly indulgent live album and the spineless 'Pomme Fritz' seemed to suggest so. But those less willing to write off Alex Paterson and his cosmic mates have had to wait until this, their firs proper studio album for three years, before deciding whether to consign them to the dustbin of pop history. Unsurprisingly , it's a markedly different Orb that pokes it's nose cagily out of "Orbvs Terrarvm' than the one evident on 'UFOrb' and '...Ultraworld'. Gone is Kris Weston, aka Thrash - save a few brief appearances - and with him the bold striding electronic optimism that was once The Orb's trademark. In its place is something less instantly palatable but, in a way, more interesting. 'Orbvs Terrarvm' is the kind of album you'd expect a band to make after three years racked by management disputes, bitter court battles and serious line up changes. At times it sounds paranoid and insular, the oldest two tracks - 'Valley' and 'Plateau' - are unsettling in the way they shimmer along, the melodies hidden beneath layers of bustling syncopation. Moments such as the beginning of 'Occidental', when a spooky electronic mantra telling us to 'Listen to the radio' emerges from a saccharine-sweet melody, or the haunting, looping guitar on 'White Water Junction' conspire to give 'Terrarvm' a welcome dark edge. However that's not to say the new Orb crew manage to avoid the pitfalls of 'Pomme Fritz': 'White Water Junction' and 'Oxbow Lakes' head off into unlistenable noodling at times, but theres usually a solid metallic beat to haul them right back onto the rails again. Quite what the average Orbette will make of 'Terrarvm' is hard to tell - the variety of tracks, from the surprisingly drum-driven 'Montague (sic) D'Or' to the understated older tracks, makes the 78 minute trip more of a bumpy ride than the smooth glide of previous efforts. And that's probably a good thing. But they'll probably squeal with delight at 'Slug Dub', the LP's closing statement, which unravels itself in typical rattling dub style, with enough amusing samples and vivid instrumentation to keep diehard followers happy. It's relieving to find this chunk of old Orb here, but their new adventures - indulgences and all - are equally engaging once you get your bearings. (7)" {out of 10 } Ben Willmott. NME 18 March 1995 later ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:50:36 -0700 From: Andrew sturgess Subject: Re: (orb) Orbvs Terrarvm - Review "Howeverthat's not to say the new Orb crew manage to avoid the pitfalls of 'Pomme Fritz': 'White Water Junction' and 'Oxbow Lakes' head off into unlistenable noodling at times, but theres usually a solid metallic beat to haul them right back onto the rails again." Wow...he calls "Pomme Fritz" unlistenable noodling??? it's that kind of thinking that keeps people from experimenting with ideas in music... apparently, the word "music" carries certain rules with it... oh well, he can keep listening to his "music", as long as it stays "on the rails" at all times... - -club HAPPYBEST representing the most relentless, unlistenable and loudest mind/earfucking "noodling" soundsystem on the east coast.... as long as I'm giving myself a semi-plug, if anyone's interested in the afforementioned "mindfucking unlistenable" experimental noise I make, I have plenty of material in mp3 for you to feast upon. headphones preferred =) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: An'nai Micah Subject: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: i'm sorry, i just couldn't stay quiet on this one.. > Speaking of visuals and MP3s - You guys should check > out Windows Media > Player 7 - It's skinnable - doesn't stutter like > winamp can - and has > really great visual plug-ins. Most of the skins are hmm, have had it for a while now, and can only use it for videos...both vids and music stutter on me, often. the only time winamp stutters is the cd drive spins a cd since the mp3s i play are on the same IDE cable as the cd drive. as to the visuals, they are extremely lame and boring, imho. > will down it for you. I only keep winamp because of > the clean wav conversion > tool. it's also easier to make playlists in winamp, > but that's the only > thing it's stronger in, basically. > hmm, have to disagree greatly. the biggest pt for me is the cpu and RAM usage. MS is always writes their code cpu intensive. winamp never goes above 2%cpu for me (while playing my normal playlist - just over 10,000 songs (one local drive, one network) on random, whereas on a 10song playlist WMP7 never went lower than 10%, even when minimized and no visuals. on the memory, WMP7 reserves 15,468K, and winamp 7,400K with 2 processes. (and i notice that as i leave WMP7 playing, it grabs more and more memory, about 1M every 2min, this provess of winamp has been running for 2 weeks) though i am sure that someday WMP7 will add the v2 ID3 tags, i don't notice them on this, i rather like having the lyrics in the mp3. oh, and in case you think it is the fault of a slow machine, this is on a 936MHz with 200M ram. these bench marks were noted with no other open progs except task manager or course. sorry for the rant all... An'nai ===== http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=574040404 Join Care2.com's Race for the Rain Forest! you will recieve NO spam But I feel so sad, can this be right? Cos I loved our days and I loved our nights I loved it when you would hold me tight And for a while our world seemed bright... ~Ali Shaw, cranes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:55:12 GMT From: "Stewart Nolan" Subject: (orb) New album from The Orb on its way Don't know if anyone's seen this yet, as my computer is in a different country from me and I haven't seen the list recently. http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_26301.html New album from The Orb on its way The Orb release their sixth studio album on October 23 - the first collection of new material since Orblivion in 1997. Recorded in London and Berlin, Cydonia features 13 tracks and includes collaborations with Thomas Fehlmann, Witchman and Guy Pratt, with vocal contributions from Nina Walsh(Sabrettes) and Aki. The album is described as a typically eclectic with myriad dimensions and The Orb's customary adroitness at musical pool blending, moving effortlessly between electronica, techno, drum'n'bass, it is richly melodic without ever compromising The Orb's more adventurous sides. Alex Paterson says this album represented a new phase in The Orb's history. He said: "It's been a very fulfilling time making the album over three years and working with new songwriters and programmers reminds me of Ultraworld." 2000 has already been a busy year for Paterson, along with finalising the album there have been a handful of remixes including one of seventies reggae vocalist Keith Hudson for the Blood & Fire label and for Jah Wobble's supergroup Damage Manual. There have also been various studio side projects in preparation for the launch of his own label Bad Orb early next year; a vinyl only project that will feature such artists as Sun Electric, Autolump, Lost Woods of Timber and Multiverse. A Bad Orb website is also being constructed which will include free downloads of new material including tracks from previous Orb member Kris Weston (Thrash). 2001 will also see the resurrection of the successful Bad Orb club nights in London and a number of Le Petit Orb dates throughout Europe, which include two gigs in the UK with Mad Professor in Aberdeen on October 11 and Londonıs Scala on October 24. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:34:12 +0100 From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) Knitting Factory - Hollywood martin wrote: > Just got off the phone with the KF who told me Alex is > definately on for September 1st. Couldn't give me an "on sale" or a price > though. I subbed to their email list though so opefully we will know soon. > > Maybe Smiley can add something to this??? nope, 'fraid not. sorry. - --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:10:08 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: We've obviously had different experiences... I haven't had WMP7 stutter on me once... While winamp would stutter at the opening of an email. I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact MS writes intensive programs. But all visuals are 'lame' --- I haven't seen anything that impresses me anymore. But the visual plugins for Winamp - more times out of ten - never worked for me ... or took special installation to perform... WMP7 visuals download and go right into the correct folder - plug and play at it's finest. I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind - or be the first to bring it up - I was just saying i found an MP3 player that i like better than the standard WinAmp, regardless. - -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:23:54 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: > I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind - > or be the first to bring it up - I was just > saying i found an MP3 player that i like > better than the standard WinAmp, regardless. Yeah, but Windholes Media Player is made by the Evil Empire, and who wants anything to do with them? You might as well throw away all your Orb records and listen to John Secada. Oh, and be sure to vote Republican, too... All in good fun, of course. But I really do hate Micro$oft and go out of my way to use anything but their products, whether it's an MP3 player, an operating system, word processor, whatever. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:16:45 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Fw: Re: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 ah, a Mac user in our Midst? ;-) j/k seriously though, All software, O/Ses, etc. have their fallacies (even Linux, but at least bugs get fixed in the Open Source community). -eric³ : All in good fun, of course. But I really do hate Micro$oft and go out of my : way to use anything but their products, whether it's an MP3 player, an : operating system, word processor, whatever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:41:11 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: Re: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 > ah, a Mac user in our Midst? ;-) j/k Guilty as charged. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:57:51 -0700 From: rachel Subject: (orb) samplespotter's d-light! Hey Kids! Sorry if its already been mentioned, but there's a sample-spotter's dream database up at: http://samplespotter.com - -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design 415.452.8940 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:53:25 -0400 From: Andrew_Leaden@pch.gc.ca Subject: Re: (orb) Textures DJ CDs / Orb Remix Project Well, thanks to all that anwered my questions about those cd's. I ended up getting "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond The Call Of Duty" and FSOL's "Papua New Guinea". The one thing that really struck me though after listening to both my purchases though was how the orb REALLY know how to twist a song and make it their own. There's a definite flow and vibe to the remixes - a continuity that extends like a mile long cosmic whale turd - through all the tracks. You definitely know when LX has wrapped his grubby little paws around a beat, kneaded it into submission, and then spat it out his giant whale-like blowhole... As opposed to the FSOL CD which is good, but all the remixes sound the same - the remixers haven't made the songs their own like LX does. Which I suppose is why we are all on this list - cause LX does such a good job... Later Andrew np: Cydonia v1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:25:25 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster Currently there's 6 people sharing the whole of Cydonia Version 1 on Napster! Oh well, I guess that's what happens when the MP3's are made available to the public... Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 08:48:41 -0400 From: "Jason Bilsky" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster > Currently there's 6 people sharing the whole of Cydonia Version 1 on > Napster! > > Oh well, I guess that's what happens when the MP3's are made available to > the public... There's not gonna be any easy way to keep it away from the general public now. It was posted to alt.binaries.mp3.dance last night... The person that posted it obviously wasn't a listmember, as they had no clue whether it was a booteg, or unreleased, or whatever... - -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "The one that you love and the one that loves you are never ever the same person." -Chuck Palahnuik, _Invisible_Monsters_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:17:36 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Vinyl Exchange Forgot to mention - URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' section) & follow links to the Orb Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 14:21:31 +0100 From: "Nick King" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster First message bounced, so here is the original!! And now, Vinyl Exchange (which is where I got my copy from) is now offering the 'Version 1' CD-R for sale - offers!! (Not my copy) URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' section) & follow links to the Orb Enjoy, Nick King ;-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Bilsky" > > There's not gonna be any easy way to keep it away from the general public > > now. It was posted to alt.binaries.mp3.dance last night... The person that > > posted it obviously wasn't a listmember, as they had no clue whether it > was > > a booteg, or unreleased, or whatever... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 16:30:44 -0600 From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster I just made it so it wouldn't share the folder with Cydonia in it on Napster... of course I never share files so that's how it goes. If I did, every person would be trying to grab from my poor little 56K modem. That's what I get for putting all my Orb CDs on the computer. Nick King wrote: > First message bounced, so here is the original!! > > And now, Vinyl Exchange (which is where I got my copy from) is now offering > the 'Version 1' CD-R for sale - offers!! (Not my copy) > > URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' > section) & follow links to the Orb > > Enjoy, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:18:02 PDT From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Terrence McKenna He's a ex-hippie guy who's now into techno and says you need electronic instruments to recreate acoustic phenomena encountered on psychedelics and that dense electronic ambience is more like nature than a park (as we understand it) or something like that. My opinion is he's really smart but smoked/done way too much of everything. He said that you can tell a culture by the drugs it deems acceptable. Western culture deems caffeine, alcohol, tranquilizers OKAY because that's what we need to go at a fast workaholic pace and take "breaks" once in a while so we don't collapse under the frantic near-psychotic pressure.... Yet we don't allow psychedelics while more creative, chilled cultures do allow them. I agree with his idea but I think both the pro-psychedelic and pro-caffeine, alcohol, nicotine cultures are equally screwed up.... >Who is Terence McKenna? He is on a SPACETIME CONTINUUM album that my friend >has. Is he a student of Leary??? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:04:42 -0600 From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Terrence McKenna And you forgot that he sadly passed away. He was also a believer in the Eschaton theory, or the end of the world at the date 2012. Anyways, not much else to say there. That Ambient Guy wrote: > > I agree with his idea but I think both the pro-psychedelic and pro-caffeine, > alcohol, nicotine cultures are equally screwed up.... > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Jan Bijleveld Subject: (orb) DanceValley Report Last saturday I went to the DanceValley Festival in Spaarnwoude, Holland, here´s the report: I arrived at 11.00 AM at the festival and spent most of the afternoon listening, drinking, smoking etc. The following DJs were playing the mainstage: Thimbles, Erick E, Rap, Danny Howell, Dave Randall etc. At 19.00 I went to the tent were Le Petit Orb was playing. Off course I met some fellow listmembers there, Nico and Johan (aka Sunburst). The show was very good although it was a little too hard sometimes with a lot of distortion. A very wide range of music, some of Cydonia, some older stuff and at the end some drum & bass. After the show I took a look at all the other tents and got back to the mainstage too see Carl Cox, very good too. Out in the valley, in the dark with a very nice laser show. At 24.00 party time was over and I went home and could´t sleep because I still heard music (or was it caused by other stuff??). After all it was a very well spent day and I hope to see the Orb/Le petit Orb back on DanceValley next year. L8er, RJ BTW: The new tapes have arrived, so at the end of the week I´ll have an update on the MP3 Project. I´ll keep ya informed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #347 *************************