From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #431 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Friday, March 16 2001 Volume 02 : Number 431 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:52:55 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) The latest platters that matter! hello orbies - a little surprise in todays mailout from Vinyl Addiction: >From: simon >KLF Space KLF Very ltd repress of this extremely sought after KLF >LP!! =A3 15.00 email simon for a copy... who knows how many there are! hopefully only a small number of the 300+ on the orb list want it, or simons gonna get swamped! cheers KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:10:45 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Mitchell Subject: Re: (orb) The latest platters that matter! On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Kael Driscoll wrote: > >KLF Space KLF Very ltd repress of this extremely sought after K= LF > >LP!! =A3 15.00 =09Anybody have the track listing hand for this LP? jahsh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:33:30 -0000 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) The latest platters that matter! Isn't this another bootleg (in a similar vein to the "reissued" copies of 1987 & Chill Out)?? Can anyone confirm? l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > hello orbies - a little surprise in todays mailout from Vinyl Addiction: > > >From: simon > > >KLF Space KLF Very ltd repress of this extremely sought > after KLF > >LP!! £ 15.00 > > email simon for a copy... who knows how many there are! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: M JH Subject: (orb) teatime track id? Hello, I wonder if somebody would be kind enough to identify the tracks Alex is playing at 20 minutes and 21 minutes (if in fact they are two different tracks - I can't tell) into the Feb 22 Groovetech session. Any assistance would be so greatly appreciated. Good day to all. Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:18:27 -0000 From: "Gordon McDermid" Subject: Re: (orb) The latest platters that matter! > Isn't this another bootleg (in a similar vein to the "reissued" copies of > 1987 & Chill Out)?? > > Can anyone confirm? ==> I have a copy right here in front of me if anyone has any questions. Got it for a tenner @ FOPP in Glasgow. G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:49:12 -0000 From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) The latest platters that matter! I know some time ago they were talking of reissuing Space on CD, so I guess a vinyl release is expected....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:16:39 -0900 (AKST) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) All your orb So I'm wondering if LX will succumb to the temptation to make a stupid remix including the 'ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US' meme... Or if a fan will (hint hint). 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:46:54 +0100 From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (orb) The latest platters that matter! On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Kael Driscoll wrote: > >KLF Space KLF Very ltd repress of this extremely sought after KLF > >LP!! £ 15.00 Anybody have the track listing hand for this LP? I guess it's the same as the original: 1. Mercury 2. Venus 3. Mars 4. Jupiter 5. Saturn 6. Uranus 7. Neptune 8. Pluto Cheers, Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:48:46 -0800 From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) score! Just returned from Amoeba Records in SF, where I found the Patterns & Textures soundtrack cd for $10!! (Quite a triumphant score, so I thought I'd share it with you all!) They were also selling the Cydonia vinyl for a whopping $36 - yikes!! So it definitely exists, and has EDM on it. (The coloring of the artwork and tracklisting is the same as the UK release.) Woo Hoo! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:10:12 +0100 From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) score! Wow, nice going R. =) /Dwb. www.uf-orb.com Just returned from Amoeba Records in SF, where I found the Patterns & Textures soundtrack cd for $10!! (Quite a triumphant score, so I thought I'd share it with you all!) They were also selling the Cydonia vinyl for a whopping $36 - yikes!! So it definitely exists, and has EDM on it. (The coloring of the artwork and tracklisting is the same as the UK release.) Woo Hoo! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:20:25 +0800 (WST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) egnable and montagne d'or just got my copy of cydonia this afternoon. FINALLY. no EDM, but i knew that in advance. (no bonus track for having a currency to rival a third world country, unfortunately.) listened eagerly through the four old tracks, and then egnable hits. don't want to spoil the surprise for those of you who haven't heard this particular track yet, but is the narration in this song done by the same person who professed his love for thomas in montagne d'or on orbus terrarum? do we know who this strange person is? is it fil le gonidec? womble - -- hn: womble em: womble@it.net.au ww: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ - -------------------------------------------------------------------- underground. overground. whatever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:09:19 -0500 From: "decay" Subject: (orb) LFC Video here you can watch the video for "little fluffy clouds" at http://www.launch.com/musicvideos/view/not_start/1,1218,164920~1134~1134 813700,00.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:33:39 -0800 From: "Sarah Norton" Subject: (orb) Coachella Music Festival Hello All My Beautiful Friends in Orb! I have purchased my ticket for Coachella. I can hardly stand the wait - Orb, Aphex Twin, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Tricky, Andrea Parker, AK1200...it's going to be bliss!! So...I am making my usual shout out to So-Cal listees - let's meet up!! I greatly enjoyed meeting a lot of you during Alex's November stops down here, and I know there are more of you that didn't show up!! Please contact me privately about meeting details as I've already started arrangements with a few of you. Also, it seems that every room within a 20 mile radius of the festival is booked. Did anyone have the forethought to book extra rooms?? Anyone? Know of a vacation home out in oldsville that's unoccupied? :-0 I have to at least throw it out there before I take drastic measures. Glad to hear everyone's opinions of Cydonia. I look forward to seeing you guys in April!! Peace and Fluffiness, Sarah "Shine your light for the world to see..." Mos Def # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:28:02 EST From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Trippier Remixes? A) I have just been listening to Hamlet of Kings from the=A0Groovetech Teati= me=20 show:=A01-11-00. Just the addition of the person=A0dreamily saying "drifting= ,=20 drifting", "the sky is calm", "complete calm", "very restful", etc, totally=20 enhances this track.=20 I think I heard this once on a "give up smoking" hypnosis tape. =A0 B) I look forward to Alex doing a bit more experimentation on Groovetech=20 shows. I would love to hear a more trippy, flowing, remix of some of=A0Cydon= ia=20 tracks, eg: a little bit of exotic foreplay before the full beat is thrust=20 upon up=A0us. =A0 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:13:10 From: "E O" Subject: (orb) Flyers, recordings, and various other gak from the tour
When people go to the various shows that are not Chicago, can there be some sort of effort to pick up any promotional flyers and stuff and scan them onto the OAA or something?  Also, if anybody is planning to record the performances (which I hope several people are planning on doing), please contact me so I can set up a trade or payoff or something to help satiate my obsessive compultion to have every show available.
We need to document these recordings for historic value.  Think of the children!
 
Thanks,
-Eric


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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:02:16 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: CONFIRMATION OF US DATES # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com afternoon all - confirmation of the US dates, as there did seem to be a bit of confusion over some of them... APRIL: 12 BOYNTON ORBIT 13 TAMPA MASQUERADE 14 ATLANTA MASQUERADE 17 NYC - IRVING PLAZA 18 WASHINGTON 9:30 19 BOSTON AVALON 21 DETROIT ST ANDREWS HALL 22 TORONTO GUVERNMENT 23 CHICAGO METRO 24 LAWRENCE, GRANADA 25 DENVER OGDEN THEATRE 27 SAN FRANCISCO MARITIME 28 LOS ANGELES COACHELLA FESTIVAL cheers, - --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:21:23 -0500 From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) All your orb Someone Set Us Up The Orb! What you Say!! Take Off Every 'Spliff'! for Great Justice! - - e r i c - > So I'm wondering if LX will succumb to the temptation to make a stupid > remix including the 'ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US' meme... > > Or if a fan will (hint hint). > 'james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:34 -0600 From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) vinyl fever calling all vinyl heads, now that the badorb will be pumping out a vinyl only media i have been forced into purchasing a turntable. not a bad thing, i hope. so last evening i stopped by a record shop to check it out and found myself picking up the klf's chill out for $11 new and also the import cydonia 14 track for $25. since i am new to the world of vinyl i'm wondering what the usual prices for vinyl are and how available new releases and earlier releases are. please help as i have not bought a turntable yet and would like to know how readily available stuff is so i can determine how much i want to invest on a turntable. can anyone point me in the direction of a nice turntable for around $300. i will NOT be dj'ing!! this will be for listing only. oh yeah and i also found a copy of the little fluffy clouds single for 5 bucks - same night, different shop. thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:32:25 -0000 From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) LX DJ Set at www.worldpop.com Found another LX mix on the net... Check out the following link & then select 'The Orb' from the 'Previous DJ Mixes' pull-down menu http://www.worldpop.com/dance/cif.cfm?dir=dance&url=djmix.cfm¶m= Enjoy, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:54:45 -0000 From: "Nick King" Subject: Re: (orb) Flyers, recordings, and various other gak from the tour There's an on-line flyer for the Brighton show at http://www.concorde2.co.uk/marchflys/Orb%20Poster%20web.jpg Regards, Nick ;-) When people go to the various shows that are not Chicago, can there be some sort of effort to pick up any promotional flyers and stuff and scan them onto the OAA or something? Also, if anybody is planning to record the performances (which I hope several people are planning on doing), please contact me so I can set up a trade or payoff or something to help satiate my obsessive compultion to have every show available. We need to document these recordings for historic value. Think of the children! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:10:02 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) LX DJ Set at www.worldpop.com > Found another LX mix on the net... Anyone got the facility and inclination to capture this and convert it to MP3? And maybe post it somewhere? I'm spoiled by all the recent Groovetech, Breezeblock, BadOrb, etc. sets... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:07:22 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) score! GRAAH you stole it from meeee!@#$ I was there like 3 mos ago and the orbsection was routed. Hehehe. Didn't you get your once more promo there that day we all ate on haight st? Ben in Space. > Just returned from Amoeba Records in SF, where I found the Patterns & > Textures soundtrack cd for $10!! (Quite a triumphant score, so I thought > I'd share it with you all!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:49:14 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) LX DJ Set at www.worldpop.com >> Found another LX mix on the net... > Anyone got the facility and inclination > to capture this and convert it to MP3? Oops, never mind. I didn't realize it was just the BadOrb promo... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:06:58 -0500 (EST) From: laerm Subject: (orb) four hours of brutal stupidity orbonauts... tonight, 6-10pm est/11pm-3am utc (gmt), i'm-a gonna play rekkids. if it's some form of electronic, it'll show up. lots of varied material in line for tonight...matter of fact, "terminus" up next. so, you know the score, winamp : ctrl+L : 216.32.166.89:3696 hit me up over email or icq (maybe) 5562209 if you got something you wanna hear or just wanna give feedback. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:51:03 -0600 From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (orb) brixton 93 question quick question for any/everyone... does anyone know the date of the brixton 93 show that was posted on the ftp server? the tracklisting is below... i've checked the two brixton academy shows on the orb mp3 project cds and neither seem to match... any help? thanks, lysergic brixton 93 (as downloaded) yodeliti plateau o.o.b.e. little fluffy clouds fast forward the future blue room valley spanish castles in space star6789 perpetual dawn a huge evergrowing... towers of dub outlands outro ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:16:32 -0900 (AKST) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) All your orb On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, wrote: > Someone Set Us Up The Orb! > > What you Say!! > > Take Off Every 'Spliff'! > > for Great Justice! You shouldn't have done that. Now I have to try. - ---8<--- In A.D. 2101 DJ set was beginning. Captain: What happen ? Operator: Somebody set us up the Orb Operator: We get signal Captain: What ! Operator: Main mixer turn on Captain: It's You !! LX: How are you gentlemen !! LX: All your party are belong to us LX: You are on the way to saturation Captain: What you say !! LX: You have no chance not to dance make your time LX: HA HA HA HA .... Captain: Light up every 'splif' Captain: You know what you doing Captain: Toke 'splif' Captain: For great justice - ---8<--- So there, I dunnit... :) 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:21:22 -0000 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) LX DJ Set at www.worldpop.com > >> Found another LX mix on the net... > > > Anyone got the facility and inclination > > to capture this and convert it to MP3? > > Oops, never mind. I didn't realize it was just the BadOrb promo... > > JG Was it? Damn! Must try and download it then... ;-) Bloody good, though! l8rs, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:23:20 -0900 (AKST) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) four hours of brutal stupidity On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, laerm wrote: > > orbonauts... > > tonight, 6-10pm est/11pm-3am utc (gmt), i'm-a gonna play rekkids. if it's > some form of electronic, it'll show up. lots of varied material in line > for tonight...matter of fact, "terminus" up next. > > so, you know the score, winamp : ctrl+L : 216.32.166.89:3696 It be Sat Mar 17 00:17:24 UTC 2001... I'm likin what I hear. Nice and smooth. Great mixing so far. Very cool, with a touch of weird randomness thrown in, very 'orbient dub' if you will. And I love my 10Mbit to the backbone... Latency ain't so hot but the bandwidth is plenty. :) Is this a regular occurrence? It's great for me because it's Friday afternoon here in AK and I'm at work with awesome music playing, getting my stuff done... (I'm installing GNATS for bug tracking on our router OS development, if any of the nerds out there cares. And there's this nasty bug where the generated Makefiles won't go unless Emacs is installed because some bozo forgot to test whether Emacs (or XEmacs) was installed before byte-compiling a bunch of Emacs Lisp files... Hacking torturous makefiles sucks. Bleah...) 'james I don't have a Linux ICQ program. Foo. 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:33:13 -0900 (AKST) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) four hours of brutal stupidity On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, laerm wrote: > > > > > orbonauts... Bad form to reply to oneself, but... > I don't have a Linux ICQ program. Foo. I just discovered that XEmacs has an ICQ client. Now I have to try to figure out how it works. Undoubtedly it's run by pressing Control-x Control-Meta-Super-Hyper-Shift-coffee-cup or some other awful key combination... :) 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jahsh Subject: Re: (orb) vinyl fever > calling all vinyl heads, > since i am new to the world of vinyl i'm wondering what the usual > prices for vinyl are and how available new releases and earlier releases > are. please help as i have not bought a turntable yet and would like to > know how readily available stuff is so i can determine how much i want to > invest on a turntable. I am going to go from a US perspective on this, let me know if you need a different one. 12inch domestic is from 6-8$, import 12inch is from 9-11$ Single lp is from $11-17, and a doulbe or triple vinyl is from $15-$25. This is all new. > can anyone point me in the direction of a nice turntable for around $300. i > will NOT be dj'ing!! this will be for listing only. since I am a dj I only keap up with the Dj style turntables, things to look for in a turntable for home use would be needle swap ability and ability to use very good needles, the drive speed of the platter, and the quality of the tone arm, if the tone arm is not good it will put execive wear on the vinyl since the needle is not riding the groove in the best fasion. sorry i can't drop name, but the you get what you pay for with anything. I would think you would need to pay over $200 though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #431 *************************