From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #445 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Tuesday, April 24 2001 Volume 02 : Number 445 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:18:58 -0700 From: moot2501@aol.com Subject: (orb) Lurker counts the hours untill the metro i lurk on the list cant wait for tomorrow mwa hahahaha anybody meetin' up before the show? im comin up from indy kinda late, but who knows. later moot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:56:28 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: (orb) Lurker counts the hours untill the metro Hey everyone: I'm heading down to Chicago at 2pm out of Madison, WI, with my boss and two co-workers. Anyone who wants to meet up should give me a call on my cell phone tomorrow sometime -- the number is 608-239-5458. We don't have plans for where we're getting food/drinks before the show, but we should be there sufficiently early to get a good spot in line. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know! I'm game for something fun... Anyone care to meet up? I'll be wearing my Orbus Terrarum shirt and some Tommy jeans and yellow Nikes. If I'm up to it (drunk enough) I'll wear my spike collar. And orange sunglasses. Lemme know! - -=brian=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0700 From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites? doh! I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!) Didn't realize my server was down....sorry! *MoonDogg* - -----Original Message----- Subject: (orb) FTP sites? Anyone know why OAA is refusing connections? cygnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:58:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) orb - Rubicon (Tang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream) To orbsters, Has anyone heard of this? A mate of mine has a bootleg(?) of Tangerine Dream's Rubicon remixed by the orb. It's a CD with the a red coloured cover which he says is the same as the Tangerine Dream single. (?) He got it whilst working in radio during the mid to late 90's. If you need more info, I'll give him an e-mail. I have to admit, I've never heard of any of Tangerine Dream's work other that tracks that appear on movies so I can't confirm or deny any of this. Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:17:10 -0400 From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream) Wasn't there an entire remix tribute album for Tangerine Dream in the mid-90s? I believe the Orb contributed, at the least (I do have an .mp3 called "Toward the Evening Star" that is very like the Orb). - --Justin > From: Paul Ketley > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream) > > > To orbsters, > > Has anyone heard of this? > A mate of mine has a bootleg(?) of Tangerine Dream's > Rubicon remixed by the orb. It's a CD with the a red > coloured cover which he says is the same as the > Tangerine Dream single. (?) > > He got it whilst working in radio during the mid to > late 90's. If you need more info, I'll give him an > e-mail. > > I have to admit, I've never heard of any of Tangerine > Dream's work other that tracks that appear on movies > so I can't confirm or deny any of this. > > Cheers, > > Paul. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:11:38 -0400 From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) new member Welcome, Dusan! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:04:37 -0400 From: "TheEye" Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites? What server is that?! Have I missed the info? >I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!) >Didn't realize my server was down....sorry! >*MoonDogg* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:42:56 -0700 From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites? 24.1.153.3 login = orb password = orb *MoonDogg* - -----Original Message----- Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites? What server is that?! Have I missed the info? >I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!) >Didn't realize my server was down....sorry! >*MoonDogg* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:52:50 From: "E O" Subject: (orb) Chicago....
Myself and four others will be heading to Chicago kinda late, so I'll get there about the beginning of the show.  If anybody cares to find me, I'll have a white tee with FREAKS on the front...
 
-Eric

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:47:58 -0500 (CDT) From: James Hill Subject: (orb) Chicago.... > > I'm going as well. I remember there was something about meeting somewhere > > beforehand, but I forget where. Anwyays, I'll be there as the ponytail > > guy with my girlfriend who has red hair with two really blonde streaks in > > the front. See y'all there. > > > > James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:55:32 -0700 From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) Coachella Rendevouz Hey Orbsters! If anyone's getting together at Coachella, please keep me informed! If nothing else, I'll be donning some small, white horns for the occassion, so stop me and say hello, ok? =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:34:13 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) mission 92 mark weston wrote: > > Has anyone got a track listing for this please. Regards Mark W. Check: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orb The source for most of your Orb trainspotting needs (even if it does need an update). Chris np: The Beautiful South - November # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:38:29 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Satisfy Me Jay wrote: > What is the "satisfy me" song on there? Alex also played it at the end of > the Autolump set in NYC and I'd like to know what it is and if possible, to > find it. I mean, it sounds like Elvis, but possibly remixed....any help > here would be appreciated. It is Elvis, and is called something like A Little More Satisfaction. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:48:46 -0400 From: "RadiORB-It's Not Just For Christmas" Subject: RE: (orb) Satisfy Me > Jay wrote: > > > What is the "satisfy me" song on there? > > It is Elvis, and is called something like A Little More Satisfaction. > > Chris I believe the name of the song is "A Little Less Conversation". It's from one of those old movie soundtracks that Elvis did so many of back in the late Sixties/early Seventies. e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Hannah Subject: Re: (orb) witchman... - --- "Meredith, Justin" wrote: > > for those of you that saw Witchman - what was his > set like? did he spin > records or did he play live? > Witchman and his set live are like this. You get to see him change his time tape - it's the recipt like film that gets spit out atop his music gear. I am not a gear head and don't know what I saw but. He smokes while he tunes. Oh, and he swigs a beer on occasion too. Sometimes Witchman is not on the stage or next to his equipment at all and the vehnue is swrilling! Witchman's set was started with announcer calling all freaks. Orbfreaks, the witchman did not play rekkeddz... O.K. Alex plays the mad version of Led Zepp. VS. P. Oakenfold's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" .... then the freaks come out! Alex are you really going to turn it over to J. Roome and the JR Witchman!?! Alex is going to retire the Orb. Is that why he seems to be giving the Witchman the golf swing so constantly during the show? Anybody else notice this turn during the Orb's set? Alex wants to let the "...Orb roam" and help us betwixt beside ourselves with his concubine of new Badorb and various new labels releases. Stay safe tonite Chitown.... jfromfl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:58:58 -0500 From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) witchman... Stay safe tonite Chitown.... ===>thanks joseph! see y'all there. not sure yet what i'm a gonna wear i'll be the one dancing - for sure! going to try something different on this one....stay smoke free. the temptation will be high so wish me luck. loaf & peas, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:10:28 -0000 From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: RE: (orb) witchman... jmoxness tries to claim this: >going to try something different on this one....stay smoke free. the > >temptation will be high so wish me luck. You will not be able to resist our temptation. Do not even try! We will have you before you can get through the front door. sucker. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:11:56 -0400 (EDT) From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: (orb) Toronto show mini-review Must say I was quite impressed with the Toronto show...quite the lasting impression! It was also nice meeting Ben (aka Reverend DjBlue)- but couldn't talk to him much, lest I interfere with his minidisc recording of the show! Also there was Grant (thx for the twizzlers!) and looking pretty good for all his travels the man Gavin himself. The show started with Autolump (fil only though....didn't see Alex anywhere during this set) who spun some pretty happenin' beats...I can't wait 'till some of his stuff is released! Much bass was thrown around with wild abandon! After an 'intermission' (too long!) with some jungle-ly music (think drum'n'bass-style elevator music), Witchman was up and the crowd started to really get into it. A lot of really good layered beats and samples, with eclectic, constantly changing bass lines. Very nice. Much better than the tracks on his website. Then another, LONGER, intermission (crowd got a little restless, here) at which point the club was PACKED. Grant said he saw the lineup for the night, and that Alex was supposed to DJ for at least one of the intermissions, but didn't...maybe due to technical problems from the night before?? Anyway, didn't see a hint of Alex until the Orb were up next. A lot of tracks were played from Cydonia and Ultraworld, but none (that I could tell) from UFORB! Oh well, it still rocked. Simon on bass simply rocked. A lot of tracks were mixed with samples from others, which made it hard to identify (much less remember!) which ones were played, but I do recall these (in no particular order): promis egnable outlands lfc (!) ghostdancing terminus freely wheely (?) mile long... Ok, I'll give up....now I beginning to think I'm making these up. Anyway, if Ben decides to rip his recording, that'll be the definitive answer to what was played. (to be honest, I have a real problem remembering track titles as it is) The Orb set was pretty much technically flawless for its 1.5 hours....except for the very last track where the sample volumes were all fucked up (i.e. TOO LOUD) and the sequencing was off (due to mixer failure?) Eventually after much button-pushing and knob-fiddling they managed to squeak out mile long lump o' lard. Then, of course, they ended with the oldie 'Mr Sandman....' like the other shows. Of course there was no encore. A good night's worth of Orb, imho. james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:29:01 +0200 From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: RE: (orb) new member Hi, and welcome Dusan! This I the best list on the net, like family! :) Sincerley yours, Dr. Winston O'Booogie http://www.uf-orb.com/ : me some kinda artist too =) Welcome, Dusan! : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: steveO Subject: Re: (orb) witchman... witchy and simon used these bits of tape attached to the mixer, so they'd know what channel corresponded to each track, afaik. ;)> steve0 ===== "never mention 'new age' when describing ambient music, or your brain will explode and you will be killed." - superstar chill dj charles uzzell edwards __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:07:40 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) FTP sites? cygnus wrote: > Also - Has anyone tried to split any of the Groovetech shows into tracks? I > used TrackMaker (freeware), but the tracks created were not the correct > size. Anyone have similar luck (or preferably better?)?? In what format? For mp3, I have no idea. If you are talking wav (or for burning to audio CD-R, you can either use a sound editor to chop them up (making sure to make your cuts on frame boundaries), or just use a burning program that uses cue-sheets (such as CDRWin or EAC) and generate a cue-sheet that puts the track breaks where you want them. (Personally, for the GrooveTech shows, I put the breaks between discs in good places (at the end of a track, with silence or a very quiet transition) and just throw in track-breaks every 10 minutes in my cue-sheet so navigating the CD isn't a nightmare. Alex does so many mixed tracks and extremely long segues that trying to put breaks between tracks is an exercise in futility; most of the GT sets only have 7 or 8 places where doing this would be reasonable.) Chris (who had to go buy a larger hard drive in order to extract and edit these shows) np: Peter Murphy - Love Hysteria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:16:49 -0600 From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) anyone know anything about this? i found this on vinyl - is it the 40 minute version split in two? Blue Room Pt1 18m45s Blue Room Pt2 19m01s mixed by Orb 1992. Bass by Jah Wobble, guitars Steve Hillage, vocal from Aisha the high priestess. sample from "Fast Forward Into Dub" by Mad Professor. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:13:52 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) anyone know anything about this? Jeff Stratton wrote: > > i found this on vinyl - is it the 40 minute version split in two? > > Blue Room Pt1 18m45s > Blue Room Pt2 19m01s > mixed by Orb 1992. Bass by Jah Wobble, guitars Steve Hillage, vocal from > Aisha the high priestess. sample from "Fast Forward Into Dub" by Mad > Professor. Yep. The cassingle is the same way. (Obviously there are a couple minutes of material missing, though. I haven't done a detailed comparison to find out what is missing yet.) Chris (who just got both of those goodies (cassette & 12") in the mail a week or two ago) (and who is also apparently on a posting tear today) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:45:12 -0400 From: "Jay" Subject: (orb) Live Orb recordings...WAV, SHN, etc Sorry if this has been covered or addressed here before, but I wanted to throw this out there... It seems like there are a lot of good, quality Orb out there that is being traded (BadOrb Promo, GrooveTech, live shows, etc) and I'm sure that a lot of these are digital sourced (at some point in the lineage). I've seen the Orb mp3 project files and a lot of it is pretty good sounding. What I'm wondering, is there anyone out there trading shn format or wav format Orb? It seems that there's a lot of us out there with the hard drives to handle it, it's just the time it takes to record and track the digital source to wav and the time it takes to encode to shn. Beyond that, it's just trading. I have gotten a lot of great Orb shows in mp3 and burned them and have been beginning to distribute them. If anyone has any of the recent shows (or hell, even some of the older shows) and would be able to supply me with a show that is either in wav format or is directly sourced from the DAT (or miniDisc) to cdr audio, I'd be more than willing to go through the process of setting up and running a show. The most important thing here is that the source be documented and quality. I come from the jamband background and with that style of music, taping is encouraged and the spreading of the music is important. I understand that these recordings are not necessarily full on approved by the band (or are they?), but if Alex and Co. are ok with the mp3 project, why not take this the next step in quality. I'm all for spreading this stuff and would like to aid in the process. Email me privately if you can be of assistance in getting this started. If I get some sort of positive feedback and a source to work from, I'll go from there. - --- Jay PS: the http site below houses my trading list of live shows. It's mostly jambands, but on the non-tradable section, there is some Orb and Aphex. Like I said, I'm all for spreading the music. I've got more than what's there and I'll offer some B&Ps to a few people who are looking for shows...just mention that you heard about it from the Orb list. I know that the db.etree site has been having a few hiccups, so if you don't connect in the next day or so, give it another shot in a few. windorab@home.com http://db.etree.org/windorab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:48:05 -0400 From: "Jay" Subject: (orb) oops...a little typo correction When I said I'd run a show...I meant I'd set up and run a cdr tree...sorry for the typo confusion there. - --- Jay windorab@home.com http://db.etree.org/windorab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:14:33 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Live Orb recordings...WAV, SHN, etc Jay wrote: > > Sorry if this has been covered or addressed here before, but I wanted to > throw this out there... It hasn't been specifically addressed before, and I was planning on posting something like this after the current tour... > It seems like there are a lot of good, quality Orb out there that is being > traded (BadOrb Promo, GrooveTech, live shows, etc) and I'm sure that a lot > of these are digital sourced (at some point in the lineage). I've seen the > Orb mp3 project files and a lot of it is pretty good sounding. All of the GrooveTech material is sourced from RA files. The rest varies; older shows are on cassette; most of the "modern" stuff is from DAT or minidisc. The Orb mp3 project material is, I believe, mostly originally sourced from cassette; so not much has been lost by mp3ing it. The "original" cassettes are out there; and it looks like they are slowly being mastered to a digital format (either DAT or CD-R). They probably won't be much better than the ones I'm making from the mp3s, though. > What I'm > wondering, is there anyone out there trading shn format or wav format Orb? > It seems that there's a lot of us out there with the hard drives to handle > it, it's just the time it takes to record and track the digital source to > wav and the time it takes to encode to shn. Beyond that, it's just trading. I don't think anyone is specifically trading using shn. For whatever reason, this format doesn't seem to be catching on with anyone except jamband aficionados. Every so often, someone tries to convert the Underworld trading community to shn, and it always falls flat with a resounding thud, especially since most of the Underworld material out there is at 160 kbps or higher. MP3 is the default format for distributing music on the web, and that combined with bandwidth limitations, would seem to work against directly trading shn or wav files. There are a fair number of people trading audio CD-Rs, DATs, and/or mini-discs, but they tend to stay fairly low key on this list, for whatever reason. > I have gotten a lot of great Orb shows in mp3 and burned them and have been > beginning to distribute them. If anyone has any of the recent shows (or > hell, even some of the older shows) and would be able to supply me with a > show that is either in wav format or is directly sourced from the DAT (or > miniDisc) to cdr audio, I'd be more than willing to go through the process > of setting up and running a show. The most important thing here is that the > source be documented and quality. It will take a while for the new shows to start appearing; at least a few weeks (and then the sources will be trying to trade for material they don't already have). And knowing Gavin (the one attending and recording every US show), he will take the time to do the job right, which will add to the delay. I have several dozen CDs of Orb shows and rarities; most of them are available as mp3s already, but most my stuff is not sourced from mp3 (with the obvious exception of the mp3 project). For whatever reason, electronic music fans in general don't seem to be quite as anal as jamband fans when it comes to sources...and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'll take a show with a shady pedigree (or no pedigree) in an instant over no show at all. :) > these recordings are not necessarily full on approved by the band (or are > they?), but if Alex and Co. are ok with the mp3 project, why not take this > the next step in quality. I'm all for spreading this stuff and would like > to aid in the process. I'd like to do the same. After this tour, I was going to try and set up one or more trees to distribute some of the new and/or hard to find stuff, if I could convince anyone to provide the necessary material, of course. I don't particularly mind mp3s, but if I can get something that hasn't gone through a lossy compression, I'd prefer it. So, let's see if we can do it... Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:57:05 -0400 From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto show mini-review James wrote:: > A lot > of tracks were mixed with samples from others, which made it hard to identify > (much less remember!) which ones were played, but I do recall these (in no > particular order): > > promis > egnable > outlands > lfc (!) > ghostdancing > terminus > freely wheely (?) > mile long... you might be making these up.. heh.. I'm pretty bad with a lot of song titles too.. I often have to pull out the cd and compare heh. but.... they did play Once more (a remix since Aki isn't on tour with them) and Mile Long Lump Of Lard was the first song of the night (feel the heat, feel the flash, glowing mass) I don't think they played terminus... I'll have to compare notes. heh... > The Orb set was pretty much technically flawless for its 1.5 hours....except > for the very last track where the sample volumes were all fucked up (i.e. TOO > LOUD) and the sequencing was off (due to mixer failure?) Eventually after much > button-pushing and knob-fiddling they managed to squeak out mile long lump o' > lard. this was actually "Thursday's Keeper" This was also the last song played at Irving Plaza in NYC (not edm like some people have said) (AFAIR!!) yeah, I guess the mixer that witchman was controlling overheated or something (probably got some bad components in there) and certain channels were doing some horrible distortion... they started Thursday's Keeper, and within the first minute stopped it, and fil and witch were fuckign with the desk.. then lx put on some other track (anybody know what this was?) possibly (probably?) not the orb, and then they tried thursday's keeper again, and they had the drum lines working, but the horns and everything else were dying. A very good night... I was especially happy that they played egnable.. lx really fucked it up (in a good way!) okay.. off to bed soon.. - -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:16:20 -0700 From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) recording shows For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I want to catch some of the acts at the Coachella show, and am pretty sure i'll be searched upon entering. Also any tips on getting a good recording would be nice. ie what kind of mic to use and such...... I've got an Aiwa portable recorder... l8's Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:02:34 -0800 (AKDT) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Recording live shows I'm rather surprised that LX et alia don't make arrangements for fans to make recordings of the live shows, rather like Phish does. Has anyone ever considered bringing this up with him? Almost none of his live shows ever see recording for any widespread publication so it's not like it'd be hurting the record company's profits. Perhaps he'd consider working out an agreement with his record people such that live recordings are allowed but only if they aren't sold for money. This is exactly what Phish does, and recording Phish concerts has become an institution. Phish sells just as many tickets and albums as they would otherwise and their fan base remains happy with them. It's a thought anyway. 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:05:10 -0700 From: moot2501@aol.com Subject: (orb) mini metro blurb ahhhhh... the metro was stupendous, got there late into whitchman, sais la vis. very iffy setlist: milelonglumpoflard promis turnitdown blueroom (both basslines WOO HOO!) (choppers from ahegb) outlands eggnable towersofdub lfc thursdays keeper plus a buncha stuff i'll remember tomorrow:)merch was a few badorb shirts coressponding to BOB 1-3, a nifty orb hat, cydonia shirts, and a whitchman + jammin unit disc. neeed sleeep later moot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:32:31 -0400 From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) recording shows It occurs to me that I was in the best position to record the DC show, since, when they search bags, they're at best cursory, and they don't frisk you the way they do in CA (at least in the LA area). I had a sony discman, but my headphones were on top of the disc playing unit in my bag, and the girl who checked my bag just asked me if it recorded, and I said "no". She didn't even make sure it wasn't a mini-disc player. Justin > From: "Dj Casey" > Organization: US WEST > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:16:20 -0700 > To: > Cc: "Orb Mailing List" > Subject: (orb) recording shows > > > For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on > sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I > want to catch some of the acts at the Coachella show, and am pretty sure > i'll be searched upon entering. Also any tips on getting a good recording > would be nice. ie what kind of mic to use and such...... I've got an Aiwa > portable recorder... > > l8's > Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:57:09 -0400 From: "Eric Belair" Subject: (orb) new albums.... hello... i just wanted to say that i have listened to both the new orb album and the new orbital album, and i am somewhat disappointed by both. it seems that both bands have been getting progressively better over the years, and now with both albums, it seems as though they've both taken a step back. ORBITAL: in sides and middle of nowhere are two of the best "electronic" music cds i've ever heard. the complexity of the music, as well as the excellent production still amaze me, and those albums came out years ago. yet, the altogether seems to simple, like the hartnolls were not trying their hardest. i am not going to buy this album. there are only a few songs i like (in particular, meltdown and tootled), and it is not worth my $15. i never thought i'd hear myself saying that, but i am seriously disappointed. THE ORB: now i love the orb. i saw them in boston last week, and they blew me away. the new album is sub-par in my view (and several of my friends'), but they performed it live with such expertise and it sounded great. i feel the same about cydonia as an album, though, as i do about the altogether. adventures beyond the ultraworld and u.f.orb and orblivion are amazing albums, and still amaze me to this day, but after listening to cydonia several times (yes, i gave it more than one chance), i came to realize that the album was much less than spectacular. with both cydonia and the altogether, i was expecting something groundbreaking, since all the orb and orbital have done for us for the past 10-15 years is amaze us more and more with every new album. but both these albums seem very lackluster. like they weren't really trying. i'm sorry if i've offended any of you, and i'm sure many of you will write in to tell me how wrong i am, so i'll apologize, and admit that i'm probably wrong in advance. i've not given up all hope for these guys, i'm just disappointed by these albums. sorry... peace... ericb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) recording shows > For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on > sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I This might seem kind of farfetched, but its something I've been thinking about for a while... Okay, so the idea is this: you have a small radio transmitter that has a variable broadcasting frequency, and a reciever tuned to that frequency that has a MINI-DIN plug (the input used for most portable MD players) for output. You could put the transmitter into the sound board somehow and actually have the minidisc recorder on your person and hidden away so its not visible. The only problem is how to get the FM transmitter attached to the master out from the mixer or whatever. Now, assuming the place has unshielded wires, you could potentially have a device that picks up the electromagnetic field made through the wires, and extract the output waveform that way. But this seems like it would be kind of expensive. I think the best solution would be something along the lines of a small device with dual RCA ins and dual RCA outs that gets stuck between your mixer and your amplifying device; you attach the mixer outs and they're passed through this device and a side effect of this is that the output waveform is broadcast to you. This I think would be pretty cheap & easy to build, but it still leaves the problem of how to get the thing attached in the first place (which is what made me think of the EM field detector, because that could be just placed near a wire)... Any ideas anyone? This little pair of black boxes would, I think, make the job of bootlegging much easier since there is less physical evidence, and a 9 volt battery could power a transmitter that could broadcast 500m for a long period of time, so you could even leave the MD player stashed in your car with a buddy attending to it. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:49:49 +0100 From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) recording shows I don't mean to urinate on anyone's bonfire, but of all the live shows bootlegs I've heard [not just the Orb] the sound quality is shit. Not just the "quality" of the sound, but added crowd noise, acoustics etc etc - surely the solution would be to get friendly with someone on the sound desk? I'm sure that they record them all anyway - All the DJ mix tapes are done from the sound desk. I've got numerous Stone Roses bootlegs for example, and to be honest they are just pathetic. One video in particular has some knob in the crowd repeatedly shouting "turn that fucking light off" which get slightly irritating after the 4th or 5th time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #445 *************************