From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #462 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Friday, May 18 2001 Volume 02 : Number 462 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:51:00 -0500 From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Badorb characters... Sorta OT I've been thinking a great deal that some of the characters for badorb remind me a great deal of characters from a comic book called Scud: The disposable assassin. they have the same mismatch of animal parts and things, to make really tripped out combinations. It's just that the badorb stuff seems to have more of a space theme. The story is about a robot, called a Scud. A disposable assassin, that you purchase from a vending machine, give it a target, it hunts it down, destroys it, then self destructs after completing it's job. the main character is a Scud who is given a target, and during his hunt and assassination attempts, he learns that he will die if he completes his mission. Becoming like any self aware robot, he doesn't want to die. So he confronts his target, Jeff, who ends up becoming his arch enemy. Jeff is a perfect example of this badorb character design style. Jeff is a 20ft creature with a Cat's body, an electric plug for a head (the round three-pronged kind), mousetraps for hands, a squid strapped across his belly, and human arms for legs, which evidently have mouths on the knees that speaks using soundbites from films, music, and historical events... Kinda like the Orb and how they use samplers. Anyways, the plot goes that as he learns he will self destruct, he just maims, Jeff, blowing off his arms and legs, and has a hospital put him on life support. So the series continues as Scud goes freelance hitman, to flip the bill for Jeff's hospitalization. the stories are violent, but extremely hilarious, and quite surreal and trippy. Fan's of Pulp Fiction would dig this series quite well. Currently the series seems to be in limbo, he got to a cliffhanger ending, and it just stopped. There was word long ago that there was a movie to be made and was in production, but who knows where that is now. If you are interested, stop by your local comic shop, and ask for it by name. You can pick up the bound paperback collections to save you the effort of finding all the issues. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 2001 14:30:45 EDT From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: [(orb) badorb.com]] Thanks for the info! < tries to relax ;) > "-> rachel" wrote: hey kids! as someone who works in web development, i can honestly say that 80% of websites don't happen on schedule. i am SURE they will let us know when we're able to give them money... don't sweat it. =3D) rachel ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:23:21 From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) shoreline area one
Got my ticket to the shoreline amphitheatre area one festival this morning--looks to me like the orb are gonna be in the DJ tent only, but it's difficult to tell.  8 years for new order to play here again is a long time....
 
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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:24:20 -0600 From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: (orb) xmission member list? has anyone else received an email from "sea turtle" asking for lfc mixes? this guy keeps pestering me for them. wants to BUY them. says he got my name from an "xmission user list." anyone? just curious.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:29:08 -0500 From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (orb) searching for a record name greetings all and sorry for the OT post... I'm looking for a 12" record, not sure who by, that I heard in late 1990, early 1991 entitled "These Stars of Ours" or something to that effect. If anyone out there has any lead on this or any idea what I'm talking about, please let me know. Thanks a bunch! lysergic ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:47:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) xmission member list? Sounds like spam or scam. Take your pick. If he was for real he'd just ask on the list, and he'd get them for free (or for media and postage costs). 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:04:55 -0400 (EDT) From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) searching for a record name On Thu, 17 May 2001, Lysergic Dream wrote: > I'm looking for a 12" record, not sure who by, that I heard in late > 1990, early 1991 entitled "These Stars of Ours" or something to that > effect. If anyone out there has any lead on this or any idea what I'm > talking about, please let me know. Thanks a bunch! hm...marc almond's "the stars we are" is nice...although not probably what you want. :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:33:22 -0400 From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" Subject: (orb) spams? heh.. I also got an email from seaturtle.. he writes: "i saw your name up on a orb chat or something...." the to line is actually to mr don gagen... deleted.. - -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:41:24 -0600 From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) xmission member list? that's what i'm thinking. i'm just wondering how this chap got my email whilst looking for lfc. hmmmmmm.... > > > Sounds like spam or scam. Take your pick. > > If he was for real he'd just ask on the list, and he'd get > them for free > (or for media and postage costs). > > 'james > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:44:45 EDT From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock etc, etc.. In answer to inquiries I have received: TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. Hope you can all be there!! bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:52:02 -0600 From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! I say we meet some where on IRC. How about undernet #badorb??? Just a thought. 'bette apologies if this idea has been suggested and shot down. Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is > important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized > to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock > etc, etc.. > > In answer to inquiries I have received: > > TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts > at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), > > Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and > times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = > 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, > Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = > 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. > > Hope you can all be there!! > bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) > > Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly > edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. > Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) > there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: mike olivera Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! i'm at a friends , who has dsl. I know this is asked so often , its embarrasing. but please , please can someone send me all the FTP sites hosting the live orb ,,and music of the same type (like maybe a tino show) thanks peoplees liquidw aka glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:22:10 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! womble pointed out that it will be saturday 3pm here in west oz I'll be in the car driving down south to play with rhibosome, so thats actually perfect! unless of course the whole thing works and I evolve whilst driving and crash the car.... KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:10:55 EDT From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!! lets meet on the irc dal.net server in the #ambient channel its a cool one, or just #orb In a message dated Thu, 17 May 2001 11:54:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, orbette writes: << I say we meet some where on IRC. How about undernet #badorb??? Just a thought. 'bette apologies if this idea has been suggested and shot down. Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > Exactly 27 hours, 15 minutes and 15 seconds to go. Accuracy in timing is > important (down to the second). Make sure that your clocks are synchronized > to national standards,eg: from your TV/cable company, popcorn, speaking clock > etc, etc.. > > In answer to inquiries I have received: > > TRANSCENDENTAL ORB PARTY ("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" 2nd CD) starts > at: Midnight exactly CALIFORNIA time (Friday 18th May, 2001), > > Which is of course on SATURDAY 19th MAY, 2001 at the following places and > times: Easter Island = 0100, New York = 0300, Rio = 0500, London/Amsterdam = > 0800, Cape Town = 0900, Meteora = 1000, Cairo = 1000, Zambia = 1000, > Madagascar = 1100, Delhi = 1300, Katmandu = 1300, Lhasa = 1400, Bangkok = > 1500, Bali = 1600, Tokyo = 1700, Sydney = 1800, Auckland = 2000. > > Hope you can all be there!! > bb (bbbrooo@hotmail.com) > > Free: 2001 Space ORByssey, CDR for all active participants. Loosly > edited/remixed from the Teatime with Alex show. > Hal 9000: "My mind is going, I can feel it, my mind is going (to the party) > there is no question about it". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:06:22 +0800 From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) kris weston unreleased album http://www.melt2000.com/releases/elm8026.html anyone know anything more about this? Simon Bennett :: womble@it.net.au :: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (aka womble) :: http://www.corvus.cx/ :: http://womble.furvect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:48:49 -0400 From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) spams? He probably found a posting you guys made in the past thru a search engine picking up on the list archives. Your emails would be right there with your posting. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:16:43 -0500 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) spams? > He probably found a posting you guys made in the > past thru a search engine picking up on the list > archives. Your emails would be right there with > your posting. That's what I was thinking, too. Every so often I do a search for my own name to see where it pops up online, and there are always several hits from mailings lists to which I've posted (usually accompanied by a reaction of "did I write *that*?"). Try it! Alternately, you could pretend that you're "seaturtle" looking for the LFC singles and I'll bet you'll get the same search results he did with various posts from this list. My guess would be that it's nothing too sinister; just some guy looking for LFC singles and using the net-related means at his disposal to do so. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:29:09 -0500 From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Well, It will be 2 am here in Texas. I'll be in, but I will also be alone and completly sober, and probably quite sleepy. I guess I'll hop on dalnet and see what anyone has to say about thier experiences. And of course, I'll have disk two of ultraworld playing and my headphones on. Perhaps those of us who will be on irc should meet up a little early so we can do a countdown to playtime. Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:37:38 -0400 From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! Count me in. I'm particular to efnet myself, but I can handle dalnet if it means meeting up with fellow orbsters (who I should mention are more enlightened than most people). Someone please post the date/time of this gathering a few days beforehand so I make sure to stay awake that night. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:55:23 -0400 From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!! I believe it's tonight. depending on your time zone based off of California. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:50:28 -0700 From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: orb + irc >Count me in. I'm particular to efnet myself, but I can handle dalnet if it >means meeting up with fellow orbsters (who I should mention are more >enlightened than most people). > >Someone please post the date/time of this gathering a few days beforehand so >I make sure to stay awake that night. :) this has been mentioned a couple times over the last few years, but me and a few other people have had #theorb on efnet for several years now...it's basically only a few people in there, but hey..if you feel like it pop in... not to discourage this dalnet meetup for the around the world listening..that sounds pretty cool to me :) matt. - ------------------------------------------------------------ WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:21:01 -0400 From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: orb + irc > this has been mentioned a couple times over the last few years, > but me and a few other people have had #theorb on efnet for > several years now...it's basically only a few people in there, > but hey..if you feel like it pop in... I can certainly idle there, as I'm in about 20 other channels at all times anyhow. :) Allright, glad to know! You guys have a proper botnet, etc? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) the brown, blue & green once more promos I just picked up all three @ once from some dude on ebay for like $30. :) I am going home this weekend for my 5-yr high school reunion (Oh boy!) but when I return, would people like me to dub MP3's from the non-commercially available tracks on these? I guess these tracks would be: Once More - Mark's Slide Mix Once More - Ft Explores Satan " - Mark's Steamroller mix " - Scourge of the Earth long mix " - Mark Pritchard remix If there is enought interest I will MP3'ify these songs from vinyl (no depopping, you guys can do that yourselves if you want :P) on monday when I return from boston. Also, does anyone know which one is the cauty remix? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Hoffman Subject: (orb) OT: ALPHA okay okay I know i don't post that frequently, and it sucks that this is OT, but after hitting play for the 4th time in a row on the same CD, I had to write this... if you're one who likes ultra downtempo-cool music (think massive attack on valium), you MUST hear the new alpha album "the impossible thrill". I've really never heard anything like it... they blended their own older sounds with many more torch-song-ish vocals, a kind of radioheadish use of the rhodes keyboard, and some great dub bass. and I think they got a full orchestra this time. God I sound like a total advertisement; I'm taken by this album, just be forewarned it is mellower than mellow, if you like dance beats you won't find them here unless you like to waltz. 10/10 for me. on a more orbish note, I am really jealous of those of you who are getting to see them. Stuck in ohio... howcome nobody rocks cleveland anymore? Oh and also out samplespotting, I found an old really bad house tune called ninebar blues that used the harmonica samples from LFC/whatever movie that was Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:01:01 -0700 From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) what does it all mean? just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore? [no personal attack on ben is intended, who kindly offered to MP3 his Once Mor esingles which he just purchased] i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who produced them. am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a version to play on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local shops? =) rachel - -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:06:00 EDT From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) WORLD LISTENS TO THE ORB AND GETS HIGH!!!! The giant leap in evolution will take place in exactly 11 hours, 53 minutes and 59 seconds. - - One small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind. If you don't hear from any of us again you know that either it has all gone horribly wrong, or that we have now advanced to the next stage. Good luck everyone!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:06:55 -0400 From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: RE: (orb) what does it all mean? > am i showing my age here? or is everyone just looking for a > version to play > on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate > gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score > at my local > shops? I buy when I can -- otherwise i'll look for the mp3... I help those I can. Sometimes, a used scratched up record is good for the collection, but wouldn't you prefer to listen to the CD someone made for you by their unscratched brand new record? I for example plan on digitally streaming all Badorb releases and pressing CDs to spare the records any wear. One listen each is good enough! And if I can spare a few people the need to break the seal on theirs, I shall.. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? > just curious, but does anyone buy these releases anymore? [no personal > attack on ben is intended, who kindly offered to MP3 his Once Mor esingles > which he just purchased] No offense taken. :) > i mean, i know the Jimmy Cauty/Scourge of the Earth wasn't on the official > releases, but really, its readily available through online shops like > eil.com. [granted, i understand everyone doesn't have acess to a record Well yes and no. Eil.com is notorious for listing shit that it once had and now no longer has. As far as this particular release being readily available, I'm gonna have to call your bluff on that one. I spent a while looking for these in stores and only saw it once. I mean, they were only promos released in small numbers. And once they're gone, they're gone. :) > player] but i'm curious if people are satisfied by just burning copies of > stuff that takes the slightest amount of effort to get ahold of? I am readily satisfied by burning copies until such time as getting actual physical copies is has come. I mean, it takes WAY less effort to burn a copy than to hunt and search and look for an actual copy. And for those who are in the middle of this process, making a copy is sometimes the only choice. > personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i > have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of these > items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist who > produced them. You are correct of course, but look at it from someone else's perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? It's not fair to assume everyone has your resources at their disposal. :) > am i showing my age here? No comment. :) :) :) > or is everyone just looking for a version to play > on their computers at work? am i the only one who finds the immediate > gratification of an MP3 less satisfying than a successful score at my local > shops? No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the material in some form AT ALL! :) NP - Orb - SuperNova @ the end of the universe.mp3 (MADE FROM MY PERSONAL COPY WHICH LIVES AT HOME!!! :P) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:12:40 -0400 From: "mark schieldrop" Subject: (orb) chat tonight on dalnet shucks.. My girly is coming over tonight and I don't think I'll be around at 3:00am my time. :( You guys will just have to take a deep breath and go to efnet and idle in #theorb sometime in the near future. I'll load up the CD player before bed so I'm in the "spirit". Luckily, my girl digs the orb so she don't mind if I put it on for us to sleep to. - ---- mark n schieldrop mark@specimen37.com www.specimen37.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 2001 15:22:37 EDT From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) what does it all mean?] I'm with you on this. Not a big fan of mp3s, and I love the "chase". I = enjoy the new addition to my collection that much more after hunting for it for= a while! "-> rachel" wrote: personally, i've spent a lot of time and money amassing the collection i have, and no amount of MP3s compares to having the actual releases of the= se items, with the accompanying artwork and some money going to the artist w= ho produced them. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:26:43 -0700 From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? > Well yes and no. Eil.com is notorious for listing shit that it >once had and now no longer has. As far as this particular release being i bought all three from eil.com no problem, but i know sometimes these things happen. (i also jumped on it and bought them when they first hit the streets) however, that said, half of these mixes are available on the UK cd singles, which *are* readily available >getting actual physical copies is has come. I mean, it takes WAY less >effort to burn a copy than to hunt and search and look for an actual copy. exactly my point. why walk down to the store for something which is a current release when you can sit on your butt in front of the computer? >perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you >do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant >record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? it is fair to assume that everyone has internet access, though. i live in San Francisco and still wind up buying a lot of stuff online from england. and i ain't rich, i just have my priorities straight! =) [look for me living in a cardboard box marked "Orb" next month] > No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice >to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the >material in some form AT ALL! :) this is certainly true, my friend. always nice to hear the thoughts of other fanatics like myself... =) rachel - -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:27:55 -0800 (AKDT) From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? On Fri, 18 May 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > You are correct of course, but look at it from someone else's > perspective: What if they don't have the money or time to spend that you > do hunting things down? What if they live in the boonies where independant > record stores playing this kind of music are scarce? Hear, hear! Think of where I am! We have one independent music store here in town that I know of, and it seems to cater to the metalhead and noizepunk crowd. They think Paul Oakenfold is very obscure... > It's not fair to assume everyone has your resources at their disposal. [...] > No, but its not so black and white. Sometime you have to sacrifice > to joy of finding an actual copy in lieu of just being able to hear the > material in some form AT ALL! :) In my case it's nearly impossible to get anything but the most widely distributed albums. I had to buy ABTU online because nobody had it here, or could be convinced to order it (they said "That's some weird English album and it'd be a pain for us to order it from England." mostly because they'd pay some nasty shipping fees -- nevermind that it could be gotten from the US without any hard work :P). If I wanted something as obscure as the latest promo single then I'd be hard pressed to find it here even with a large spiked club in my hand. Also, keep in mind that shipping anything from the rest of America to Alaska is *very* expensive, since it either comes by boat or by plane. Ordering a single CD online nets me a shipping and handling charge of about $7 - $10. And that's the cheap fare. So often I have not much choice other than to get MP3s if I want to actually hear the music. I'd dearly love to have the actual CD releases, simply because they sound better and because I get to look at the cover art. And the experience is so much more visceral :). But one takes what one can get... So think about your brethren (and sestren) who live in the far corners of the world before you start decrying alternative music distribution methods (legal or not). Sometimes I feel more cut off than the Australian orbophiles. At least they get country-sized promotion. Alaska gets nothing. Except for Cinderella and Yngwie Malmsteen playing at Chilkoot Charlie's. Bleah. 'james - -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) what does it all mean? > i bought all three from eil.com no problem, but i know sometimes these > things happen. (i also jumped on it and bought them when they first hit > the streets) however, that said, half of these mixes are available on the > UK cd singles, which *are* readily available They are ALL available on CD single? Really? And yeah I forgot to mention the bit about (I assumed this was the case) how you got them all quick and stuff. > exactly my point. why walk down to the store for something which is a > current release when you can sit on your butt in front of the computer? You're taking my statement out of context. I wasn't implying that this should SUPPLANT the process of searching out your own legitimate copy but just that for those poor souls who, for whatever reason, are unable to get nice copies, being able to download one instantly is definately a bonus. > it is fair to assume that everyone has internet access, though. i live in > San Francisco and still wind up buying a lot of stuff online from england. And how much do you pay for shipping? And how much time do you spend on the internet trying to find this stuff? I mean, a lot of people try and limit the amount they use the internet every day either because they get charged hourly or they don't want to tie up their phone line or it just takes too long to do the footwork (most people in the US still use dialup). I mean, everybody doesn't have the cash to pay $8 for shipping and $20 for the record to some guy in the UK who knows that if you don't pay him his $30 someone else just like you will. For instance, when I was laid off, I had no income (except for good ole uncle sam's unemployment, which only just covered my rent + rice & beans every day). My desire for music wasn't lessened, but my internet access and cash flow were! Just reminding you to keep things in perspective. :) > and i ain't rich, i just have my priorities straight! =) [look for me > living in a cardboard box marked "Orb" next month] Heh heh. At least you have them in some semblence of order. :) > this is certainly true, my friend. always nice to hear the thoughts of > other fanatics like myself... Its so nice to be thought of as fanatical. Joking. :) I really am. I own far too much orb than any one person should be allowed to amass in one lifetime. Or two for that matter. -Ben "My karma will bite me in the ass someday" May ps: I didn't mean to ryhme. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:47:11 -0700 From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: (orb) the brown, blue & green once more promos > > I just picked up all three @ once from some dude on ebay for like >$30. :) I am going home this weekend for my 5-yr high school reunion (Oh >boy!) but when I return, would people like me to dub MP3's from the >non-commercially available tracks on these? I guess these tracks would be: > > Once More - Mark's Slide Mix > Once More - Ft Explores Satan > " - Mark's Steamroller mix > " - Scourge of the Earth long mix > " - Mark Pritchard remix first off, damn you! i've been checking ebay and i haven't seen the one with the scourge of the earth mix yet (everyone's got the bedrock/lfc one :( anyway, afaik these have already been mp3-ified...a few months ago, actually (i think from a promo cd, or else there was no vinyl interference)..got 'em from one of the orb ftp sites (they're un-named, but come with a txt file saying which song is which). the scourge of the earth mix is the jimi cauty mix, btw...he's made a few other singles under that name as well (which are all pretty good, imo).. anyway, my feeling on the subject- i think the mixes available on commercial single (both cd and 12") shouldn't be available..the promo stuff i say ok, i guess (assuming there aren't 9,000,000 promos running around (which there aren't, since i've been looking))... btw, i'm still looking for the scourge of the earth and ft explores satan mixes on vinyl, so if anyone wants to ditch 'em lemme know... :) matt. - ------------------------------------------------------------ WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #462 *************************