From: "Scott S. Goldman" Subject: TPDIS: Colonel Masters work for John Ashcroft! Date: 01 Dec 2001 22:20:13 -0500 December 1rst's Boondocks comic strip is Tomorrow People Related! Colonel Masters must be working for Attorney General Ashcroft! Here's the link: http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/ Today it has the strip on the main page, tomorrow you'll have to search for December 1 Basically President George Bush signs the "Psychic Selective Service Act" that states "Americans with paranormal abilities would be required to register for a possible draft into the FBI or CIA". I wonder if they already have Trica and Tyso? Scott (After Betting that the mail contained good news) You are Fired... Oh I'm sorry Oh well, At least I won Lunch Good Philosophy, see good in bad, I like The Fifth Element ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Yates" Subject: TPDIS: Re: Mutant X and TP CD Date: 02 Dec 2001 18:55:36 -0000 > >(For the record it was Mutant X.) > >Tigger > Speaking of, that show kicks ass! :) Hear hear, it started here last month and looks really good. BTW, Has anyone got the third TP CD yet? Later, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Yates" Subject: Re: TPDIS: YNYBRTMTPW Date: 02 Dec 2001 18:51:34 -0000 > You know you've been _reading_ too much Tomorrow People when a > TP-Battlestar Galactica crossover seems not only possible but like a good > idea. > > Is anyone else out there writing one of those? Because mine's on its way. Arrrgh!! Oh no, not the TP/Battlestar crossover! (Shudders at the memory of the TP/Brady bunch.) Merry Christmas, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Colonel Masters work for John Ashcroft! Date: 02 Dec 2001 14:19:30 EST --part1_7f.1e3d3983.293bd8c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Basically President George Bush signs the "Psychic Selective Service Act" that states "Americans with paranormal abilities would be required to register for a possible draft into the FBI or CIA". They certainly won't get many American TP's, if that's who they are looking for. (Unless Andrew wasn't faking being an American) And since MB is (at last notice) in London, and Lisa has presumably disappeared well enough for her fellow TPs not to find her they should be ok. Unless many more have broken out without us knowing. Just hope the UK/Australian governments don't get the same idea. Karen They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor freedom. Ben Franklin --part1_7f.1e3d3983.293bd8c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Basically President George Bush signs the "Psychic Selective Service Act"
that states "Americans with paranormal abilities would be required to
register for a possible draft into the FBI or CIA".

They certainly won't get many American TP's, if that's who they are looking for. (Unless Andrew wasn't faking being an American) And since MB is (at last notice) in London, and Lisa has presumably disappeared well enough for her fellow TPs not to find her they should be ok. Unless many more have broken out without us knowing. Just hope the UK/Australian governments don't get the same idea.
Karen

They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor freedom.
Ben Franklin --part1_7f.1e3d3983.293bd8c2_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: YNYBRTMTPW Date: 03 Dec 2001 08:02:58 +1100 On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 06:51:34PM -0000, David Yates wrote: > > > You know you've been _reading_ too much Tomorrow People when a > > TP-Battlestar Galactica crossover seems not only possible but like a good > > idea. > > > > Is anyone else out there writing one of those? Because mine's on its way. > > Arrrgh!! Oh no, not the TP/Battlestar crossover! (Shudders at the memory of > the TP/Brady bunch.) Ignore him. (-8 I do believe it *is* possible to write a good BSG story, it just depends on the skill of the writer. -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Re: Mutant X and TP CD Date: 03 Dec 2001 06:39:13 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 6:55 PM > > > >(For the record it was Mutant X.) > > >Tigger > > Speaking of, that show kicks ass! :) > Hear hear, it started here last month and looks really good. > BTW, Has anyone got the third TP CD yet? > > Later, > > David. The third cd isn't released until 17th December and Jason says he's up to his neck with unfinished projects so I think even that date may be wrong. Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thirdromana@netscape.net (Kristin 'Duckie' Dunn) Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW Date: 03 Dec 2001 13:20:40 -0500 You Know You've Been Watching Too Much TP When... You're thinking about going to see 'Lord of the Rings' just to see Christopher Lee. And from what I can tell, he's (of course) the bad guy (I don't know a thing about Lord of the Rings...) From what I have read, he's the evil wizard that wants to keep the ring for himself, or for some other reason.. My head is fuzzy from writing term papers, and teaching all at the same time... Another TP sighting in the midst! Kristin -- "It's great to be known, but it's even better to be known as strange." -Takeshi Kaga ~Iron Chef "I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another idea to get us killed, or worse, expelled! She really needs to sort out her priorites." Ron and Hermione ~Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone~ 'You know, I would hate to be that one Japanese person who's house gets distroyed by Godzilla and their house insurance doesn't cover "damage caused by Godzilla, or other genetically engerneered creatures"' My friend making yet another random comment while watching Godzilla 2000 __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thirdromana@netscape.net (Kristin 'Duckie' Dunn) Subject: TPDIS: NS Break Out theory Date: 03 Dec 2001 13:43:15 -0500 Okay before I throw myself to the masses, I would like to remind every one that this is just a theory, though not a very good one, and comes from the haed of a very frazzeled(sp) college student who has had 5 term papers due all in the same week, teaching 8th graders basic chem along with teaching 5th and 6th grade (I LOVE student teaching!! ::evil laugh::) and having a psychology prof that has driven you completly nuts. That said now to the point of my post... Needing a break I decided to watch NS TP, and I got to thinking (Which is not what I had in mind) what if all it took to break out was thinking about it, or being around TP alot. Okay it's a week theory but I'm working on it... Okay we've got Megabyte, who was around Kevin quite a bit. We see him sitting in the chair saying, "If that idiot can do it, why can't I?" and him also saying, "If I was telepathic, if I could tlelport, that would be the dream of my life come true!" We get quite a bit of wishing from him. Also he's around the TP quite a bit as well, Kevin and Lisa. Same goes with Jade. She wished to become a TP quite a bit as well, and in the Living Stones, she was hard to find without a TP around. Not really the case in Culex Experment, but she had a small role any way. But do you see where I'm getting at? For OS it wasn't the same case, that's I can see, but Chris, Lefty, and Ginge all seemed to change as time went on. They were, would it be mean for me to say, smarter, more understanding if what was going on in the world, and less aggressive in life, so there is a change as they were with the TP longer. This is a very week theory, but thoughts, and debunking are much appricated. My brain needed a break, and what ends up happening? haha! Kristin -- "It's great to be known, but it's even better to be known as strange." -Takeshi Kaga ~Iron Chef "I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another idea to get us killed, or worse, expelled! She really needs to sort out her priorites." Ron and Hermione ~Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone~ 'You know, I would hate to be that one Japanese person who's house gets distroyed by Godzilla and their house insurance doesn't cover "damage caused by Godzilla, or other genetically engerneered creatures"' My friend making yet another random comment while watching Godzilla 2000 __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Yates" Subject: Re: TPDIS: YNYBRTMTPW Date: 03 Dec 2001 22:02:42 -0000 > Ignore him. (-8 I do believe it *is* possible to write a good BSG > story, it just depends on the skill of the writer. Let's hope that whoever writes it is more skilful than the bunch that wrote Battlestar!! David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Yates" Subject: TPDIS: Re: TP CD Date: 03 Dec 2001 22:04:59 -0000 > The third cd isn't released until 17th December and Jason says he's up to > his neck with unfinished projects so I think even that date may be wrong. I'll have to get myself something else for Christmas then won't I?? David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Selfdestruct117@cs.com Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW Date: 03 Dec 2001 19:03:48 EST --part1_12c.8a1c473.293d6ce4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You know you've been watching too much Tomorrow People when... Every action show you've been watching in the past week (Alias, Smallville, 24), the good guy's getting chased and you just keep screaming "Teleport!!" at the screen! --part1_12c.8a1c473.293d6ce4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You know you've been watching too much Tomorrow People when...

Every action show you've been watching in the past week (Alias, Smallville, 24), the good guy's getting chased and you just keep screaming "Teleport!!" at the screen! --part1_12c.8a1c473.293d6ce4_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juniper Wanderer Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 00:33:32 -0800 (PST) ...the president of your school's Science Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club threatens you with physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes back to a meeting... (The fact that I was keeping up a running commentary...mostly cries of "THEY'RE FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two people I kept referring to as flirting were Adam and Megabyte probably killed it completely...) -El Juno _____________________________________________________________ --->Get your free email @godisdead.com Made possible by Fade to Black Comedy Magazine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 00:48:59 -0800 At 12:33 AM 12/4/01 -0800, you wrote: >...the president of your school's Science Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club >threatens you with physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes back >to a meeting... > >(The fact that I was keeping up a running commentary...mostly cries of >"THEY'RE FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two people I kept >referring to as flirting were Adam and Megabyte probably killed it >completely...) You mean with Ami? (Not sure when they were flirting?) -Drew >-El Juno > >_____________________________________________________________ >--->Get your free email @godisdead.com >Made possible by Fade to Black Comedy Magazine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juniper Wanderer Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 00:57:56 -0800 (PST) --- Drew Thiele wrote: >At 12:33 AM 12/4/01 -0800, you wrote: >>...the president of your school's Science Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club >>threatens you with physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes back >>to a meeting... >> >>(The fact that I was keeping up a running commentary...mostly cries of >>"THEY'RE FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two people I kept >>referring to as flirting were Adam and Megabyte probably killed it >>completely...) > > >You mean with Ami? (Not sure when they were flirting?) > >-Drew > > *cough* Not exactly... I'm a sick puppy, I know... -El Juno _____________________________________________________________ --->Get your free email @godisdead.com Made possible by Fade to Black Comedy Magazine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Snicker Furfoot, Esq." Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 08:30:09 -0600 At 12:57 AM 12/4/2001 -0800, you wrote: >--- Drew Thiele wrote: > >At 12:33 AM 12/4/01 -0800, you wrote: > >>...the president of your school's Science Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club > >>threatens you with physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes back > >>to a meeting... > >> > >>(The fact that I was keeping up a running commentary...mostly cries of > >>"THEY'RE FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two people I kept > >>referring to as flirting were Adam and Megabyte probably killed it > >>completely...) Great - so now I'm going to be left with that image while re-watching those eps... BAD MAN!!!! *eg* Snicker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathleen E Ritter Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW Date: 04 Dec 2001 08:48:15 +0000 You know you have been watch to much TP when you on Everquest and some one in your guild asked for it any tpers are on-line and you say I don't know if there are there is a Tomorrow Person on-line. Then they say I'm looking for a Teleport. And you say but there can teleport. Kathie =^_^= ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 12:20:13 -0800 (PST) --- Juniper Wanderer wrote: > ...the president of your school's Science > Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club threatens you with > physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes > back to a meeting... > > (The fact that I was keeping up a running > commentary...mostly cries of "THEY'RE > FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two > people I kept referring to as flirting were Adam and > Megabyte probably killed it completely...) > This one has me curious. Okay, based on what? Which serial? mike - who wonders if he should bring up his notion that Kevin had a crush on Megabyte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 13:16:26 -0800 > >mike >- who wonders if he should bring up his notion that >Kevin had a crush on Megabyte > lol... I doubt that but then again, sexuality wasn't as important on the show, since it was a kid's show. His (Kevin's) sexuality wasn't as clear imho on the show. He could easily have had a crush on Lisa, Ami, Adam, Megabyte, and even Jade, ;) *quickly reads his welcome message for restrictions* Hmm okay. Just had to check whether I was making any small infractions, but guess not. :) El Juno - ROFLMAO on Adam and Megabyte. Good one. ;) If I had to pick a same sex potential 'couple'... it probably would be Kevin and Megabyte, or Ami, although that leaves Ami out of the loop...or Jade, perhaps, but perhaps not, since Jade seemed to like Megabyte a lot, or was that just the fanfic's influence? Adam probably not at all, since he evidenced interest in a female in Monsoon Man, and Origin story with Lisa. The possibilities are a bit few on the new NS, unless you factor in more new TPs as well eventually ^_^. -Drew >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. >http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 16:45:37 -0600 On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 02:33 AM, Juniper Wanderer wrote: > ...the president of your school's Science Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club > threatens you with physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes > back to a meeting... > Silly, you just have to be elected schedule officer. :) (Actually, I only snuck TP onto the schedule once a quarter the year I was setting up the schedule.:) Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 16:52:45 -0600 On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 03:16 PM, Drew Thiele wrote: > > lol... I doubt that but then again, sexuality wasn't as important on > the show, since it was a kid's show. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! (If that doesn't reveal my bias, nothing does.) I'm sorry, I just like to think of the TP as asexual most days. Comes from starting on the original series when I was 4. My brain likes them on the same pedestal as Big Bird for some reason (even New Series). > > *quickly reads his welcome message for restrictions* Hmm okay. Just had > to check whether I was making any small infractions, but guess not. :) > Nope. Official rules are if it's acceptable material on this list for Adam and Ami, it's equally acceptable for Adam and Megabyte. Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 15:05:46 -0800 At 04:52 PM 12/4/01 -0600, you wrote: >On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 03:16 PM, Drew Thiele wrote: > >> >>lol... I doubt that but then again, sexuality wasn't as important on the >>show, since it was a kid's show. > >Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! >(If that doesn't reveal my bias, nothing does.) >I'm sorry, I just like to think of the TP as asexual most days. Comes >from starting on the original series when I was 4. My brain likes them on >the same pedestal as Big Bird for some reason (even New Series). Then how to explain Adam's thing with Lucy? -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 15:08:11 -0800 >Speaking of Monsoon Man... did Lucy know he was a Tomorrow Person? I >thought Ami just popped in, in front of her once? Just wondered. (I have the tapes, but dialogueless tho) -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OdinJ007@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 04 Dec 2001 20:17:01 EST --part1_2b.1f670336.293ecf8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/2001 12:21:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, greyfalcon_1@yahoo.com writes: > --- Juniper Wanderer wrote: > > ...the president of your school's Science > > Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club threatens you with > > physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes > > back to a meeting... > > > > (The fact that I was keeping up a running > > commentary...mostly cries of "THEY'RE > > FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two > > people I kept referring to as flirting were Adam and > > Megabyte probably killed it completely...) > > > > This one has me curious. > > Okay, based on what? Which serial? > > mike > - who wonders if he should bring up his notion that > Kevin had a crush on Megabyte > So looking back, I dont really see the whole flirting thing (<-- hasn't seen TP in years.. but my tapes are on the way! WOO!).. but then again I WAS like 11 when I first saw the show. But, and I don't know if I am the only person who happens to notice this... Does anyone realize how much Adam looks like Johan Paulik? (::winces and waits for the outcries::) Yes, Yes.. I shouldn't know about such people, but I do. And he DOES. Jonathon Brown -blushing furiously "Common Sense Isn't" - Voltaire --part1_2b.1f670336.293ecf8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/2001 12:21:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, greyfalcon_1@yahoo.com writes:

--- Juniper Wanderer <Juniper@godisdead.com> wrote:
> ...the president of your school's Science
> Fiction/Fantasy/Anime club threatens you with
> physical violence if you ever bring your TP tapes
> back to a meeting...
>
> (The fact that I was keeping up a running
> commentary...mostly cries of "THEY'RE
> FLIRTING!"...didn't help. The fact that the two
> people I kept referring to as flirting were Adam and
> Megabyte probably killed it completely...)
>

This one has me curious.

Okay, based on what? Which serial?

mike
- who wonders if he should bring up his notion that
Kevin had a crush on Megabyte

So looking back, I dont really see the whole flirting thing (<-- hasn't seen TP in years.. but my tapes are on the way! WOO!).. but then again I WAS like 11 when I first saw the show.
But, and I don't know if I am the only person who happens to notice this...
Does anyone realize how much Adam looks like Johan Paulik? (::winces and waits for the outcries::) Yes, Yes.. I shouldn't know about such people, but I do. And he DOES.

Jonathon Brown
-blushing furiously
"Common Sense Isn't" - Voltaire
--part1_2b.1f670336.293ecf8d_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 05 Dec 2001 10:38:52 -0800 (PST) --- Drew Thiele wrote: > > >Speaking of Monsoon Man... did Lucy know he was a > Tomorrow Person? I > >thought Ami just popped in, in front of her once? > > > Just wondered. (I have the tapes, but dialogueless > tho) > -Drew Megabyte and Ami teleport out in front of Lucy, leaving Adam to explain. If he went into any detail about the TP, it must have been off-screen. mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 05 Dec 2001 10:44:04 -0800 (PST) - > But, and I don't know if I am the only person who > happens to notice this... > Does anyone realize how much Adam looks like Johan > Paulik? (::winces and > waits for the outcries::) Yes, Yes.. I shouldn't > know about such people, but > I do. And he DOES. > I *really* don't see this. I do know who Johan Paulik is, but I don't think Kristian Schmid and he look similar at all. Not wanting to go off into fringe discussion topics, but------- Tigger's comment - I agree. That would be why I *didn't* introduce the idea of Kevin having a crush on Megabyte into my serial. If you look closely though, the potential for that interp is there. I was thinking of building on it later, then decided against it. The idea of ANY of the TPs having relationships with each other bugs me. Adam and Lucy - um, there is such a thing as bisexuality after all. Can't rule out a Megabyte-Adam pairing just on the Lucy thing. PLUS - Lucy could just be a cover. mike - ah random postings, must be finals week ===== --- "We're not sacrificing animals! Do we look fluffy-bunny? We're going to sacrifice children." - Sugarfairy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 06 Dec 2001 08:03:11 +1100 Michael Matott wrote: > > I *really* don't see this. I do know who Johan Paulik > is, but I don't think Kristian Schmid and he look > similar at all. I didn't know who he was - but having done a web search I do now (warning - well, people have probably guessed this but pictures of Johan Paulik tend to be of a certain type that many people don't want to see). I can see a *vague* resemblance, but only a slight one. Certainly I'd never see JP and think it was KS. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) |email: drednort@alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dalton Ames Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 05 Dec 2001 19:18:27 -0800 (PST) Flirting, crushes, sexuality in TP: In the old series, there was Mike and Pavlov (sp?)� And I thought I've screwed up my chances with a woman - http://davidwj.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ariana Brill Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... Date: 06 Dec 2001 06:31:14 -0800 12/05/2001 10:44:04 AM, Michael Matott wrote: >Adam and Lucy - um, there is such a thing as >bisexuality after all. Can't rule out a Megabyte-Adam >pairing just on the Lucy thing. PLUS - Lucy could >just be a cover. This last idea seems the most likely to me, once you take into account little things like how terribly annoying Lucy is! I'm joking, but she really doesn't seem like the type that I would imagine Adam being attracted to. -- (~.~) Ariana "Fantasy is hardly an escape from reality. It's a way of understanding it." - Lloyd Alexander saylormars@mail.com ICQ 9737939 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viv Subject: TPDIS: TP SPOTTING Date: 06 Dec 2001 15:10:03 -0800 (PST) Well, heard anyway. Just finished listening to an "audio adventure" called "Superman Lives" - pretty good Superman story, but I was happy to hear the voice of Burt Kwok, the man who played Masutan in "The Lost Gods" in the original series. Tia's Pals' Press c/o Vivian Arney P.O. Box 144842 Austin, Tx 78714-4842 We've been selling Fanfiction, memorabilia and books for 13 years. SASE for more info. Http://pages.prodigy.net/tia-pals/dark4eyes.html A proud member of FEF - http://www.phoenixfyre.net/fef ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 10:34:28 +1100 As this has been made public on the yahoo TP group, there's not much point in those of us sworn to secrecy keeping quiet: http://194.193.248.145/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=98659 Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) |email: drednort@alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Snicker Furfoot, Esq." Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 10 Dec 2001 17:55:46 -0600 At 10:34 AM 12/11/2001 +1100, you wrote: >As this has been made public on the yahoo TP group, there's not much point >in those of us sworn to secrecy keeping quiet: > >http://194.193.248.145/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=98659 GAAAH!!!!! It's only on Region 2.... *WAHHH!!!* Snicker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott S. Goldman" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 10 Dec 2001 19:53:35 -0500 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHEN WHEN WHEN REGION 1??????????????? Does any one know? At 06:34 PM 12/10/2001, you wrote: >As this has been made public on the yahoo TP group, there's not much point >in those of us sworn to secrecy keeping quiet: > >http://194.193.248.145/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=98659 > > >Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought >Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html >(ISTJ) |email: drednort@alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 >"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in >common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter >the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen >to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: >The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 10 Dec 2001 19:55:44 -0600 On Monday, December 10, 2001, at 06:53 PM, Scott S. Goldman wrote: > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHEN WHEN WHEN REGION > 1??????????????? Does any one know? > Guess I need a real DVD player so I can turn my computer into a region 2 one. (-8 (I can switch it five times, so best to switch and stay.) And yesterday I was thinking I would never need one I wouldn't hold my breath on region one -- remember what happened to the company that released the videos? Then again, does anyone know who's putting it out? (Three words: write-in campaign.) Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 06:36:32 -0000 Let me tell you all I know. I was sworn to secrecy on this matter by Nick Young and told that I couldn't announce it to the fans until after he had received confirmation. but as the news was broken by someone else then I don't feel so bad... Nick told me that they are releasing the whole series on DVD next year. I'm not sure of the company involved and could find out for you so that a writing campaigne can be started. I suspect that if it sells well enough in the UK then they would try the US market but there are more technical problems involved in this sort of thing which may affect costs. I'll investigate further and let you know... It seems that we are one step closer to our dream :-D Jackie---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aeara@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 06:16:46 EST In a message dated Tue, 11 Dec 2001 1:42:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Jackie Clark" writes: > Nick told me that they are releasing the whole series on DVD next year. I'm > not sure of the company involved and could find out for you so that a > writing campaigne can be started. I suspect that if it sells well enough in > the UK then they would try the US market but there are more technical > problems involved in this sort of thing which may affect costs. > > I'll investigate further and let you know... It seems that we are one step > closer to our dream :-D > When you say "entire" series, do you mean all of the OS, or will the NS be released too? -Joelle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mouse" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 08:41:19 -0600 Hmm looks like I now have a reason to buy a DVD player but would be the different between a UK release and US? Sorry, I have no idea and thought I would ask.. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:36 AM > Let me tell you all I know. I was sworn to secrecy on this matter by Nick > Young and told that I couldn't announce it to the fans until after he had > received confirmation. but as the news was broken by someone else then I > don't feel so bad... > > Nick told me that they are releasing the whole series on DVD next year. I'm > not sure of the company involved and could find out for you so that a > writing campaigne can be started. I suspect that if it sells well enough in > the UK then they would try the US market but there are more technical > problems involved in this sort of thing which may affect costs. > > I'll investigate further and let you know... It seems that we are one step > closer to our dream :-D > > Jackie---- > "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." > Traditional Manyarnern Greeting > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html > > http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 09:30:27 -0800 (PST) US DVD players cannot play UK DVDs. Because of rampant capitalism, I mean piracy concerns, the world is divided into different regions for DVD encoding. Basically the technology to create the DVD is the same, but the format of the disc is different in different regions. Just like you can have JPEGS and GIFS, the MPEGs that make up a DVD are slightly different formats from each other. (Or to use a more video example - the difference in VHS format found between the US and UK - NTSC versus PAL) The excuse for this is to prevent illegal copies of discs from being made and sold in other regions before an official release is made. What it also prevents is people from legally buying something from a foreign market and being able to view it. There are a whole slew of international trade laws that have sprung up since audio CDs were introduced - which are incredibly easy to copy and mass produce. The large number of pirated CDs that have been released in the Asian market (thanks to Japan's extremely loose copyright laws) have cost record companies a very large amount of money. Companies that produce DVDs are using multiple encoding methods to prevent that from happening. For those people who have DVD-ROM drives, there are ways around region encoding. For those with actual DVD players. Sorry. mike - gee, did I get political? imagine that --- Mouse wrote: > Hmm looks like I now have a reason to buy a DVD > player but would be the > different between a UK release and US? Sorry, I have > no idea and thought I > would ask.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Clark" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this > out > > > > Let me tell you all I know. I was sworn to secrecy > on this matter by Nick > > Young and told that I couldn't announce it to the > fans until after he had > > received confirmation. but as the news was broken > by someone else then I > > don't feel so bad... > > > > Nick told me that they are releasing the whole > series on DVD next year. > I'm > > not sure of the company involved and could find > out for you so that a > > writing campaigne can be started. I suspect that > if it sells well enough > in > > the UK then they would try the US market but there > are more technical > > problems involved in this sort of thing which may > affect costs. > > > > I'll investigate further and let you know... It > seems that we are one step > > closer to our dream :-D > > > > Jackie---- > > "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be > fulfilled." > > > Traditional Manyarnern > Greeting > > > > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html > > > > http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roanna Medina Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 10:30:52 -0800 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:30:27 -0800 (PST) Michael Matott writes: > There are a whole slew of international trade laws > that have sprung up since audio CDs were introduced - > which are incredibly easy to copy and mass produce. > The large number of pirated CDs that have been > released in the Asian market (thanks to Japan's > extremely loose copyright laws) have cost record > companies a very large amount of money. Companies > that produce DVDs are using multiple encoding methods > to prevent that from happening. I think you mean Taiwan. Most of the pirated stuff comes from there, not Japan. Rho ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! 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If anyone thinks this is possible; could you post (or just email to me) the name of a UK store that might be online and carry cheaper players? peace, joy, good health, and many cds jmz thinking the whole encoding thing is VERY UNFAIR :( and Snoopy adds "awwwwrooooooo"! :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 19:15:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:16 AM > When you say "entire" series, do you mean all of the OS, or will the NS be released too? > > -Joelle > He said entire series and I sort of thought he may mean the new series too but thinking about it why would he know this? I'm assuming he's been contacted about payment of some kind or other. I've already mailed him and said that the news is breaking world wide and asking for more details. As soon as I know... well you know the routine ;-) Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Beth E." Subject: Re: TPDIS: Tomorrow People DVD - check this out Date: 11 Dec 2001 15:31:22 -0700 --- Mouse wrote: > Hmm looks like I now have a reason to buy a DVD > player but would be the > different between a UK release and US? Sorry, I have > no idea and thought I > would ask.. The US and UK use different video standards for TV signals. When DVD/digital video was adopted, it was decided to keep this regional encoding intact (mostly to annoy movie fans, I think). There are regionless DVD players that will play most discs like this. Also computers with DVD ROM drives can often be switched between regional encodings, in the case of Macs, a maximum of five times (acutally a lot of DVD players are like that, I think). So there are two ways to be able to watch these in the states: buy a regionless DVD player or find a convertable DVD player you don't mind using only for region 2 (let's face it, what are you gonna use it for besides TP?) discs. Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 11 Dec 2001 16:33:37 -0600 It's almost possible, except that the player won't work with your television. You'll also need to buy a television that supports PAL format. At 01:39 PM 12/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Hiya >so here's a somewhat desperate idea for us poor American TP fans... > If you want to get the dvds bad enough; wouldn't it be possible to just > BUY a cheap player from the UK and ship it here? They sell adaptors so > it should be able to run from a regular electrical outlet. I know you > can buy cheap players here for under $100. If anyone thinks this is > possible; could you post (or just email to me) the name of a UK store > that might be online and carry cheaper players? > >peace, joy, good health, and many cds >jmz >thinking the whole encoding thing is VERY UNFAIR :( > >and Snoopy adds "awwwwrooooooo"! :) > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 11 Dec 2001 19:29:25 EST --part1_a7.1844bc8f.2947fee5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/11/01 5:34:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, ladyslvr@xmission.com writes: > > It's almost possible, except that the player won't work with your > television. You'll also need to buy a television that supports PAL format. > > I think there may be a dvd player that converts it but I"m not sure about that --part1_a7.1844bc8f.2947fee5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/11/01 5:34:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, ladyslvr@xmission.com writes:

It's almost possible, except that the player won't work with your
television. You'll also need to buy a television that supports PAL format.

I think there may be a dvd player that converts it but I"m not sure about that --part1_a7.1844bc8f.2947fee5_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 11 Dec 2001 19:47:27 -0600 >I think there may be a dvd player that converts it but I"m not sure about >that I think you're right, however it's not what anyone would consider "cheap". It's far cheaper to buy a separate television, and even that's not especially cheap. Not a problem for me, tho, because I have a PAL tv and multisystem dvd. So . . . <:jumps up and down in excitement:> . . . YEAHHHHH!!!! TP on DVD! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristy Fahrenwald" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 11 Dec 2001 23:33:06 -0600 Talking about buying dvd players &/or TV's strictly to support our TP habit... I think it is clearly time we just broke down and took a nice big step. The least we can do is set up a commune some place where we won't have to go to extraordinary lengths to obtain the dvds. (Anybody there got a few spare rooms?) My family can come and visit. Or... Let's get that little looney bin of ours all staffed and retreat from reality. You know the one I mean, we had some preliminary plans worked out a couple of years ago. I'm getting tired of real life anyway. How's this sound... we need a floor set up like the old lab (guess that can go in the basement), a floor set up like the new lab, one like the spaceship, maybe even a floor or two for some of our favorite 'away from home' locales. The Trig council room, a Sorsen space ship (or The Mama's? ;)), Liz's classroom, ...hey!... hyperspace! Kristy The Sap Friend (Who's mainly just a tad depressed at how little productive activity was accomplished on the free day she had today. ... Which isn't to say she's not crazy. Please, don't insult me by thinking I'm a *bit* sane.) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 10:42:05 -0600 (CST) I haven't tried this, but when I purchased a computer a few years back (with a DVD player), it asked what zone you wanted to set the player (and warned you could only change it so many times). You may not be able to replax on your couch, but it could be a possibility (BTW, I purchased a Mac G4, your milage may vary). Aaron --- Aaron Lee Propes InteractiveTheatre.org - Using drama to educate on sexual assault http://www.interactivetheatre.org On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, CMento6653@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/01 5:34:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ladyslvr@xmission.com writes: > > > > > > It's almost possible, except that the player won't work with your > > television. You'll also need to buy a television that supports PAL format. > > > > > > I think there may be a dvd player that converts it but I"m not sure about that > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazerus" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 14:05:54 -0500 Wendy wrote, > It's almost possible, except that the player won't work with your > television. You'll also need to buy a television that supports PAL format. Cheap methods, to think about, that have worked for me: If you don't have a DVD player, but your computer is fast enough (400 MHz or preferably more), you just need a cheap $35 (new) DVD player. Some (like mine) can be set up to be Region free, which would also require a region free software player (there are several). Or you can just buy another cheap DVD player for Region 2 and keep the other player set to Region 1. As for displaying it on your TV (while using the computer to play the DVD), that is more difficult to explain. --dreaming mode on-- The best would be if you had an external SVGA projector! They are only about $3000 and they can project a clear sharp image on the wall that is 8 feet wide or more! We had these were I used to work... They are great for movies!!! --dreaming mode off-- The next best would be if you had an external SVGA to TV converter, which would work easily and be undectable by the player. But I haven't seen any cheap ones lately. If you have a TV out connector on your VGA card (these cards are pretty cheap now, like $20 if you shop around), some software DVD players can detect it and won't display it on your TV without a hack. Speaking of hacks, and I won't tell you how to do this, nor will I do this for anyone, but some people just copy the DVD and save it as feature free. That's a long topic -- which obviously creates some pretty huge files -- I've tried it and it works -- and there is a ton of info available on the Internet. I only use it to backup some parts of the DVDs that I own. For convenience, I just plan to play the DVDs using a regionless player. BTW - has anyone see any cheap (like $25-$50) Pal TV / Video capture cards for the PC? I've been meaning to buy one. Please mail me direct. I've gotten too far off TPic! I can't wait to get all the Tomorrow People DVDs!!!! -Shawn (who prob. said way too much, was way too brief , and confused the heck out of some people) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazerus" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 14:20:30 -0500 I think it would be so cool to have a TP party, and show the TP DVDs using a SVGA projector!!! It would be close to theater size!!! The only problem would be, we would have to do it as close friends and not as a public display or we would get in to trouble. But hey, I like to dream!!!! Shawn (goes back to being quite while he dreams about Big Screen TP) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 13:21:51 -0600 (CST) For those you Region-1 folks in Minnesota; I work where they sell those projectors; if someone can provide the DVD, such a party can be arranged. :) Aaron On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Lazerus wrote: > I think it would be so cool to have a TP party, and show the TP DVDs using a > SVGA projector!!! It would be close to theater size!!! The only problem > would be, we would have to do it as close friends and not as a public > display or we would get in to trouble. But hey, I like to dream!!!! > > Shawn (goes back to being quite while he dreams about Big Screen TP) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazerus" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 15:21:48 -0500 >As for displaying it on your TV... Of course, if you play the dvd's on your computer, you could always just watch them on your computer monitor. So we don't really have to let the Region-2 code stop us from buying and watching the TP DVDs. Aaron wrote: > For those you Region-1 folks in Minnesota; I work where they sell those > projectors; if someone can provide the DVD, such a party can be > arranged. :) Wow!!! That would be so awesome!!! It's a bit of a drive, but if it's during summer break, it would be great to visit (my friend) Aaron, and watch the TP DVDs on a projector, if he were to have a TP party! -Shawn (who can't stop thinking of the TP when he should be studying for finals...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thirdromana@netscape.net (Kristin 'Duckie' Dunn) Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 23:34:34 -0500 "Lazerus" wrote: >>As for displaying it on your TV... Philips Magnavox(sp) sells DVD players here in the US that pkay both Region 1 and Region 2 DVD's... There not that bad in price.. about 149.00+ depends. >Wow!!! That would be so awesome!!! It's a bit of a drive, but if it's >during summer break, it would be great to visit (my >friend) Aaron, and watch the TP DVDs on a projector, if he were to have a TP >party! Humm TP party... Now why do we have to waite for the DVD to come out? Why can't we do it with the tapes?? Kristin <----Who's all happy because her email quit bouncing, but really mad because her computer only displays in 2 colors... She will never re-format her computer again... Stupid video card... One more exam left to go! ::happy dance:: --- "That's it! I'm throwing this stupid computer into the river, and I'll never have to deal with it again! I'll just kill it, and then I won't have to worry about it! ::evil evil laugh:: I thought you were a pacifist. Oh I am, but for 10 min, while I'm killing the computer, I'm putting that aspect of my life on hold. -- "It's great to be known, but it's even better to be known as strange." -Takeshi Kaga ~Iron Chef "I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another idea to get us killed, or worse, expelled! She really needs to sort out her priorites." Ron and Hermione ~Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone~ 'You know, I would hate to be that one Japanese person who's house gets distroyed by Godzilla and their house insurance doesn't cover "damage caused by Godzilla, or other genetically engerneered creatures"' My friend making yet another random comment while watching Godzilla 2000 __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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The actual format of the video on the DVD is the same, but because it's encrypted, it won't play without the correct key, which the DVD player won't provide if the regions don't match. > The excuse for this is to prevent illegal copies of > discs from being made and sold in other regions before > an official release is made. What it also prevents is > people from legally buying something from a foreign > market and being able to view it. Actually, I thought it was just to prevent *any* copies of dics being *played* in other regions before the official release is made, because it might kill movie attendance -- because most of the time a movie isn't released at the same time all over the world, so if people in, say, Australia, weren't going to get the movie for six months, then if they could buy the DVD, then they might not go see the movie... But, hey, if they can pretend it's about Evil Piracy, then it makes it easier to buy a few Senat-- er, lobby for harsher laws in the USA... Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Have a team of engineers standing by to examine the shuttle craft these people send across, will you?" -- Faron (about the Liberator) (Blake's 7: Breakdown [A10]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 22:54:35 +1100 On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:39:00PM -0500, jackie zalewski wrote: > thinking the whole encoding thing is VERY UNFAIR :( Yes, and so may the Australian government (yay!). I heard they were investigating it to see if it breached the Trade Practices Act -- because it's unfair to sell something to someone that they then can't use. I haven't heard anything about it recently, though. But if they decide for consumers, then it might be that all DVD players sold in Australia would have to be regionless. I know there are *some* DVD players which you can buy here which are regionless. When I buy one I'm going to make sure I get one of those. I've already set up my computer's DVD drive to be regionless, and tracked down a couple of programs that can play DVDs on Linux. I know it works, because I bought some Farscape DVDs from Blackstar in the UK, and it plays fine. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "There is something amiss with the map." -- native Castrovalvan (Doctor Who: Castrovalva) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amy Bridger Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 21:55:07 +1000 At 02:20 :-) 12/12/01 -0500, Shawn wrote: >I think it would be so cool to have a TP party, and show the TP DVDs using a >SVGA projector!!! It would be close to theater size!!! The only problem >would be, we would have to do it as close friends and not as a public >display or we would get in to trouble. But hey, I like to dream!!!! > >Shawn (goes back to being quite while he dreams about Big Screen TP) I've been to MST3K & anime gatherings like that before. It can be done if you friends in the right places. Rather than using a projector, think university. They have large theatres with movie size screens already set up. I don't know if they can be hired by members of the public, the MST3K gathering was arranged by a lecturer and the anime ones were done as part of the uni anime club. Could be worth looking into. -- Amy Bridger (ami@full-moon.com) I am in AUSTRALIA New purple keyboard! Whoooot! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 12:20:27 EST >Rather than using a projector, think >university. They have large theatres with movie size >screens already set >up. I don't know if they can be hired by members of >the public, the MST3K >gathering was arranged by a lecturer and the anime >ones were done as part of the uni anime club. OR think Movie theatre, one of the multiplexes in my city, will let you lease one of the theatres for meetings, or private showings or whatever, and no one can get it without an invite so it would still constitute friends meeting to watch a movie together,(I think just on a really big screen. And they probably already have DVD player or at least a VHS player setup to project. It's probably more expensive then using a projector (especially since I have access to them, [in Virginia, anyone interested]) or even using a university theatre which would be set up the same way (Hotels often will have a projector setup also in their conference rooms:)) Lot's of ideas Karen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazerus" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 12:29:09 -0500 Kristin wrote: > Philips Magnavox(sp) sells DVD players here in the US that pkay both Region 1 and Region 2 DVD's... There not that bad in price.. about 149.00+ depends. Unless you're really good with computers, that would be a much better and easier way to go! > Humm TP party... Now why do we have to waite for the DVD to come out? Why can't we do it with the tapes?? Everyday is a great day for a TP Party!!! But I figured the DVDs were a great reason too! Especially if it was shown on a huge screen! -Shawn (back to studying...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jackie zalewski" Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 17:24:36 -0500 time for a trip to Minnesota! :) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 22:08:36 EST --part1_9b.1fa00467.294ac734_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why a trip to Minnesota? I missed a few messages. --part1_9b.1fa00467.294ac734_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why a trip to Minnesota? I missed a few messages. --part1_9b.1fa00467.294ac734_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 21:11:20 -0600 At 10:08 PM 12/13/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Why a trip to Minnesota? I missed a few messages. Because everyone is dying to meet the two of three admins who live in the States. :) Seriously, I think someone in Minnesota (who isn't me or Beth) is trying to organize a semi-legal TP viewing using a large screen projector. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 13 Dec 2001 22:30:53 -0600 On Thursday, December 13, 2001, at 09:11 PM, Wendy Perkins wrote: > At 10:08 PM 12/13/2001 -0500, you wrote: >> Why a trip to Minnesota? I missed a few messages. > > Because everyone is dying to meet the two of three admins who live in > the States. :) > Only if this shindig occurs before the end of spring semester. Then I'm graduating (taking the MS and running:) and (hopefully) starting a real job in greener pastures. > Seriously, I think someone in Minnesota (who isn't me or Beth) is > trying to organize a semi-legal TP viewing using a large screen > projector. Our friend Mr. Propes. Who hopefully will be able to schedule this little hoopnanny, 'cause that would be cool. :) I've been ODing on the Oz containing Buffy eps again, haven't I? :) Um... TP topic-- Oh! I know. Remember to vote for the tpfict awards. Ooh, *I* need to do that. :) Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: DVD update Date: 14 Dec 2001 06:33:53 -0000 Here is the latest news about the DVD's direct from Nick Young **** I can tell you that the first four stories are being released first, and that Peter, Phil and I are going to be recording a commentary to go with them. In this we will be talking about our memories of the shoot, personalities involved etc. Your question about the U.S. is an interesting one. I am not sure of the technicalities (I shall have to ask TIM!) but I think the DVD will be playable on any PC with a CD drive. Obviously there are different formats for video (625 v 525 lines) but I am not sure how this affects DVD. I will try and find out. Get back to you soon. Best regards, Nick Hope this helps people out a bit I'll keep you informed. Jackie ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Hillsdon" Subject: TPDIS: DVD update Date: 14 Dec 2001 23:58:54 +1100 I actually hope that they release Slaves of Jedikiah in its entirety this time as the video release they hacked the beginning of the individual episodes. Definitely worth the wait.. Warren ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristy Fahrenwald" Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWT*L*TPW... Date: 15 Dec 2001 16:35:27 -0600 You Know You've Been Watching Too *Little* Tomorrow People When... Your non-fan husband suggests (nearly begs) you put in a Tomorrow People tape because he can't stand listening to another minute of late night television. I needed something I could ignore while grading papers... I would have felt guilty watching the TP. You also know you've been figuring grades too long when you begin to believe that 'F' comes after 'D' in the alphabet. But that's all done now, and I shall be back to my tapes whenever I have access to a VCR. Promise. :) Kristy _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Propes Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 15 Dec 2001 18:58:39 -0600 I spoke to a co-worker about this, who deals with more of the AV hoo-hah than I do. If your computer has a S-Video out, and your VCR or TV has a S-Video in, that will allow you to watch on the TV. Aaron On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 02:21 PM, Lazerus wrote: >> As for displaying it on your TV... > > Of course, if you play the dvd's on your computer, you could always just > watch them on your computer monitor. > So we don't really have to let the Region-2 code stop us from buying and > watching the TP DVDs. > > Aaron wrote: > >> For those you Region-1 folks in Minnesota; I work where they sell those >> projectors; if someone can provide the DVD, such a party can be >> arranged. :) > > Wow!!! That would be so awesome!!! It's a bit of a drive, but if it's > during summer break, it would be great to visit (my > friend) Aaron, and watch the TP DVDs on a projector, if he were to have > a TP > party! > > -Shawn (who can't stop thinking of the TP when he should be studying for > finals...) > > > > > > > > > > > --- Aaron Lee Propes InteractiveTheatre.org - Using drama to educate on sexual assault http://www.interactivetheatre.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: Bad News- DVD's Date: 18 Dec 2001 20:28:20 -0000 Hi folks, I've done a bit of digging and found out that the company producing the DVD's are only making them available in Zone 1( that's Europe right?) but I do have a contact at this company and along with Nick am pushing on your behalf to get the US market opened up... please be patient but it may just happen. One other thing... I'm planning on calling Sammie in the next few days... would people be available on any of the following Saturday evenings/afternoons/mornings for a live chat? 5th,12th,19th or 26th of Jan? I need to know soon so that I can arrange it with her and check that my ops are available. Thanks Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to you all Jackie :-D ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Jackson Subject: Re: TPDIS: Bad News- DVD's Date: 18 Dec 2001 12:47:42 -0800 (PST) Region 1 is US/Canada. I think you meant to say is region 2 (which is the UK). Besides that folks, it's a UK show to begin with, why would they bother releasing it to the US market first? 100% of my US co-workers didn't even know/never heard of 'The Tomorrow People'. I had to make a MPEG clip for my co-workers so they knew I wasn't making this programme up. If anything else, it's not like it had a cult-class standing such as Monty Phyton. -John --- Jackie Clark wrote: > Hi folks, I've done a bit of digging and found out > that the company > producing the DVD's are only making them available > in Zone 1( that's Europe > right?) but I do have a contact at this company and > along with Nick am > pushing on your behalf to get the US market opened > up... please be patient > but it may just happen. > > One other thing... I'm planning on calling Sammie in > the next few days... > would people be available on any of the following > Saturday > evenings/afternoons/mornings for a live chat? > 5th,12th,19th or 26th of Jan? > > I need to know soon so that I can arrange it with > her and check that my ops > are available. > > Thanks > Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to > you all > Jackie :-D > > > > ---- > "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be > fulfilled." > > Traditional Manyarnern Greeting > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html > > http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk > > ===== --- John Jackson jpjackso@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Propes Subject: Re: TPDIS: Bad News- DVD's Date: 18 Dec 2001 15:36:10 -0600 Well, next to You Can't Do That on Television, it was Nickelodeon's biggest show at the time; obviously enough that they chipped into the new series. I doubt it would be a large release, but there are some small companies that sell UK videotapes - one would think it's not much of a big deal for converting a DVD. Aaron On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 02:47 PM, John Jackson wrote: > Region 1 is US/Canada. I think you meant to say is > region 2 (which is the UK). > > Besides that folks, it's a UK show to begin with, why > would they bother releasing it to the US market first? > 100% of my US co-workers didn't even know/never heard > of 'The Tomorrow People'. I had to make a MPEG clip > for my co-workers so they knew I wasn't making this > programme up. > > If anything else, it's not like it had a cult-class > standing such as Monty Phyton. > > -John > > > --- Jackie Clark wrote: >> Hi folks, I've done a bit of digging and found out >> that the company >> producing the DVD's are only making them available >> in Zone 1( that's Europe >> right?) but I do have a contact at this company and >> along with Nick am >> pushing on your behalf to get the US market opened >> up... please be patient >> but it may just happen. >> >> One other thing... I'm planning on calling Sammie in >> the next few days... >> would people be available on any of the following >> Saturday >> evenings/afternoons/mornings for a live chat? >> 5th,12th,19th or 26th of Jan? >> >> I need to know soon so that I can arrange it with >> her and check that my ops >> are available. >> >> Thanks >> Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to >> you all >> Jackie :-D >> >> >> >> ---- >> "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be >> fulfilled." >> >> Traditional Manyarnern Greeting >> >> > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html >> >> http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk >> >> > > > ===== > --- > John Jackson > jpjackso@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > --- Aaron Lee Propes The Tomorrow People Audio Reviews http://www2.bitstream.net/~alpropes/tp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 16 Dec 2001 10:23:32 -0800 (PST) Depending on the type of video card you have RCA cables will work as well. (in case your computer and/or TV doesn't have S-Video) If you have a computer with a DVD-ROM drive you need to check your control panel for Display options. Typically, that's where you can select TV versus monitor. Some video cards specifically have a panel that allows you to easily select the display option. (On my computer you have to select Dispaly/Settings/Advanced in order to get to the window that lets you change to a TV display) --- Aaron Propes wrote: > I spoke to a co-worker about this, who deals with > more of the AV hoo-hah > than I do. > > If your computer has a S-Video out, and your VCR or > TV has a S-Video > in, that will allow you to watch on the TV. > > Aaron > > On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 02:21 PM, > Lazerus wrote: > > >> As for displaying it on your TV... > > > > Of course, if you play the dvd's on your computer, > you could always just > > watch them on your computer monitor. > > So we don't really have to let the Region-2 code > stop us from buying and > > watching the TP DVDs. > > > > Aaron wrote: > > > >> For those you Region-1 folks in Minnesota; I work > where they sell those > >> projectors; if someone can provide the DVD, such > a party can be > >> arranged. :) > > > > Wow!!! That would be so awesome!!! It's a bit of > a drive, but if it's > > during summer break, it would be great to visit > (my > > friend) Aaron, and watch the TP DVDs on a > projector, if he were to have > > a TP > > party! > > > > -Shawn (who can't stop thinking of the TP when he > should be studying for > > finals...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Aaron Lee Propes > InteractiveTheatre.org - Using drama to educate on > sexual assault > http://www.interactivetheatre.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: Bad News- DVD's Date: 19 Dec 2001 10:48:23 -0600 On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 02:28 PM, Jackie Clark wrote: > I do have a contact at this company and along with Nick am > pushing on your behalf to get the US market opened up... please be > patient > but it may just happen. > If you think letters will help, just give us the address. (Be polite, people.) In the meantime, I'm checking into options for multiformat or regular DVD players. > One other thing... I'm planning on calling Sammie in the next few > days... > would people be available on any of the following Saturday > evenings/afternoons/mornings for a live chat? 5th,12th,19th or 26th of > Jan? > Only thing on my calender is the 19th of January in the evening (regular chat time) -- the new B5 movie. So I wouldn't make poor Sammie stay up late, there are many fans on this list. OK, there are VCRs, but I've promised people a party since many of them don't have cable but I do. ;) I *knew* there was reason I packed that thing. Tigger (bouncing in CA:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 12 Dec 2001 10:13:02 EST >Not a problem for me, tho, because I have a PAL tv >and multisystem dvd. >So . . . <:jumps up and down in excitement:> . . . >YEAHHHHH!!!! TP on DVD! Gloat much? JK As soon as we find out who is making these and then bombard them with emails to get them to make Region 1 DVD's. Because although I have all of the videos YEA!!!, I am sure the DVD's would be a lot better quality, plus they have all the cool extras. Oh, I just thought of something, maybe they will include the script for the final serial that was supposed to be after War of the Empires. Other DVD's show cut scenes why can't we see cut episodes. Of course that would only work if they still have a copy somewhere of the script. Karen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: DVD release in region 2!!! Date: 10 Dec 2001 15:36:35 EST http://www.play.com has The Tomorrow People: Slaves of Jedikiah listed as an upcoming R2 DVD release. Here's what they say on their site: "Special Features Cast and Character Biographies Commentaries From Nicholas Young, Peter Vaughn-Clarke, and Sammy Winmill Review "Your children are not your children, for they dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit even in your dreams". Jaunt back to the time when a group of gifted youngsters were the Earth's only protection against a legion of evil villains and intergalactic terrors. The Tomorrow People are Homo-Superiors, the next stage of human evolution. Armed with telekinetic abilities, teleportation, a secret base and a futuristic talking computer. The Tomorrow People enthralled a legion of children in the early 1970's and is today remembered as one of the most imaginative and popular children's programmes of the decade. Each complete story is released in its entirety for the first time. All five epsiodes from the 'Slaves Of Jedikiah' story are included. Technical Details Actors Nicholas Young ; Peter Vaughan-Clarke ; Sammy Winmill ; Stephen Salmon Screen Fullscreen 4:3" Does anyone have any more info?! -Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: DVD release in region 2!!! Date: 19 Dec 2001 21:03:49 -0000 > Does anyone have any more info?! > -Geoff Only that Sammie is not doing the extras but Phill is! It was recorded at the big Finish Studios last weekend and they had to watch 9 hours of TP to do voice overs of anecdotal stories which accompany each episode. Phill forgot about it and turned up 4 hours late after they sent a taxi to get him. Then all he could do was say "Shh... " while the others spoke because he was so interested in the story lines... the producer kept having to remind him that talking over the stories was what they were all there for! I'll be speaking to Nick again soon and ask him for more details... Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: the dvd problem w/usa Date: 20 Dec 2001 08:23:12 -0600 (CST) I would see what progress can be made with regular contacts first; since Jackie is pretty much the ambassador for TP fans, she can ask, and probably make more progress, than we can just by emailing. If the manufacturer doesn't have plans to make a Region 1, maybe they have some parters who do, and we could email them and see if they're interested. Just thoughts, Aaron On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, KVDelano@aol.com wrote: > As soon as we find out who is making these and then bombard them with emails to get them to make Region 1 DVD's. > Because although I have all of the videos YEA!!!, I am sure the DVD's would be a lot better quality, plus they have all the cool extras. > > Oh, I just thought of something, maybe they will include the script for the final serial that was supposed to be after War of the Empires. Other DVD's show cut scenes why can't we see cut episodes. Of course that would only work if they still have a copy somewhere of the script. > Karen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat Date: 20 Dec 2001 15:47:37 -0000 Hi All, In answer to Jackies question - One other thing... I'm planning on calling Sammie in the next few days... would people be available on any of the following Saturday evenings/afternoons/mornings for a live chat? 5th,12th,19th or 26th of Jan? I will not be around in the morning of the 5th, or in the afternoon and evening of 26th of Jan. All other times I will be there with fingers at the ready. As regards the DVD's - I live in England. So with the DVD's released in Zone 1 only, am I right in thinking that England is excluded? And finially has anyone heard whether the new TP audio CD will be out soon. When I checked on the Big Finish site there wasn't a picture beside the write-up. Does this mean it is running late? Oh, yes I must say MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! jansulli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat Date: 20 Dec 2001 12:37:11 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, janet.sullivan wrote: > As regards the DVD's - > > I live in England. So with the DVD's released in Zone 1 only, am I right > in thinking that England is excluded? Nope, the DVD is Region 2, so the U.S. is excluded. You're all set, the rest of us can only dream... :) Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Emma=20Hanby?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat Date: 20 Dec 2001 18:46:04 +0000 (GMT) i dont anything about technology (i can just about programme my website!) but can't you order the dvd on the internet and have it shipped over to u? Em > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, janet.sullivan wrote: > > > > > As regards the DVD's - > > > > I live in England. So with the DVD's released in > Zone 1 only, am I right > > in thinking that England is excluded? > > Nope, the DVD is Region 2, so the U.S. is excluded. > You're all set, the > rest of us can only dream... :) > > Aaron > > ===== please visit my new look site-go on you know you want to!: http://clik.to/Midi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat Date: 21 Dec 2001 09:46:16 +1100 On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 06:46:04PM +0000, Emma Hanby wrote: > i dont anything about technology (i can just about > programme my website!) but can't you order the dvd on > the internet and have it shipped over to u? Yes, you can, but you won't be able to play it unless you have a multi-region DVD player (or you've set your DVD drive on your computer to be multi-region). It's a scam put together by the DVD manufacturers to control who can watch their DVDs. I'm just waiting for the day that they pass a law in the US which makes multi-region DVD players illegal. (cynical, much?) Kathryn Andersen (hoping they will pass a law in Australia which makes single-region DVD players illegal...) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Inigo: I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand? Masked Man: Do you always begin conversations this way? (The Princess Bride) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dalton Ames Subject: Re: TPDIS: DVD update Date: 20 Dec 2001 21:56:10 -0800 (PST) It would be cool if they included the Spanish voiceovers on the DVD. Someone should suggest it. I talked to a friend of mine who knows gobs about tech. He said there is plenty of software that can hack right through all the regional restrictions for PC DVD players. http://davidwj.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 21 Dec 2001 07:08:12 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:47 PM > Hi All, > > In answer to Jackies question - > I will not be around in the morning of the 5th, or in the afternoon and > evening of 26th of Jan. > > All other times I will be there with fingers at the ready. > > > As regards the DVD's - > > I live in England. So with the DVD's released in Zone 1 only, am I right > in thinking that England is excluded? > > > And finially has anyone heard whether the new TP audio CD will be out soon. > When I checked on the Big Finish site there wasn't a picture beside the > write-up. Does this mean it is running late? > > Oh, yes I must say MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > jansulli > Ok here's the details I've been waiting for... Firstly Sammie's chat. If I exclude the 5th and 26th and 19th then I'm running out of possible dates but as Jansuli said she's in the Uk and this chat will be in the evening I'll try my best to please everyone. Now to the DVD's. Yesterday I had a * very* interesting conversation with Jason at Big finish (hooray) and he told me the following things. The company who now own the right to TP is called Revelations. They paid an extortionate amount for the rights to produce video or DVD versions of the show for the UK only... :( Sorry folks but the USA was just way too expensive, and they also do not have a US distributor to organise the imports so it looks like the DVD's will not be coming your way! In Jason's opinion they paid way too much and may not break even unless they get high volumes of sales. He fears that only the first few stories will ever be produced and then they'll give up just like they did for the video all those years ago... :( Big finish on the other hand do hold the rights to the US market as well as Australia. He managed to get this because CD's are region less. Now here's the next piece of the Jigsaw. I have agreed to work with the Uk distributor of the DVD's to help promote them. I'll be sending out an advertisement in an email to everyone in my address book (including the US just for your information) Then I will be running a logo and link on my TP homepage to where you can order the DVD's direct. Below is what I've been told about the first few releases. THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION MEANT ONLY FOR MY FRIENDS ON THIS DISCUSSION LIST IF ANY INFORMATION FINDS ITS WAY ONTO ANY OTHER LIST YOU'LL HAVE THE WROTH OF THE GODDESS TO DEAL WITH... LOL >The first release of the Tomorrow People DVDs will be in February & will be on single DVDs. The first >storyline will be completed over three discs which will be released by May. Exclusively to MVC on volume 3 >will be a free box which all three DVDs completing the storyline can be stored. The next storyline which will >be released in June will be in a boxed-set DVD package which will be exclusive to MVC. So Jansuli you will definitely be able to get it in England. Now to the Next thing... the next cd has now been completed it's a fast pacey action adventure story and was held up by the art work but will be going out in the next few days. After this they have the next one scripted it will be called "sign of the Diolyx" this is a working title and no one else knows it yet! It will feature Clair Buckfield from 'two point four children' and Gareth Thomas from Blakes 7. It is written (I think) by Austin Atkinson who writes 'the dream team' for Sky TV... other future writers include people who write for the UK soaps! BF are putting a lot into updating the TP. Looking forward to the future with new and exciting story lines as well as featuring more famous names and writers... Jason is very much the business man and realises that nostalgia alone will not make this venture a success but is trying to create a whole new fan base of people who may not have seen it before. To this end he is very happy for anyone to promote the cd's through their web pages etc. Last and final thing... He's looking for writers... He would prefer those with professional background (Shaun... this is for you) but wants one page synopses of new and interesting ideas. Not necessarily featuring the original stars but just ideas that he can then develop into scripts... So get writing everybody. Forward them through me and I know he'll respond to the mail. Very last and final thing. I'll be doing an interview with Jason in the new year and have been invited along to the recording of a future CD!!! So Santa came early for me this year. Happy Christmas everybody Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Jackson Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat Date: 21 Dec 2001 05:34:18 -0800 (PST) --- Kathryn Andersen wrote: > Yes, you can, but you won't be able to play it > unless you have a > multi-region DVD player (or you've set your DVD > drive on your computer > to be multi-region). It's a scam put together by > the DVD manufacturers > to control who can watch their DVDs. I'm just > waiting for the day that > they pass a law in the US which makes multi-region > DVD players illegal. > (cynical, much?) > > Kathryn Andersen I do hope that never happens. I've had a foreign co-worker that told me that she wished she had taken my advice to purchase a multi-region player. Her family recently sent her DVD disks from another region code as a present. SO, her recent purchased region 1-only player says 'Wrong Region'. I do agree, it is a scam. I guess I can see that it would slow down illegal exporting, but not sure it it *really* works that way. So course let's say you decide to take up a job in a different country. Well, then you all of a sudden have a library of worthless disks, and that in itself isn't right. I am however, very happy with my multi-region player. Best investment for my entrainment centre, other than my NTSC/SECAM/PAL VHS player. It's amazing to me that some movies in different countries can be out of print in one, but still selling it in another. JP ===== --- John Jackson jpjackso@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 21 Dec 2001 10:25:53 -0800 (PST) > Last and final thing... He's looking for writers... > He would prefer those > with professional background (Shaun... this is for > you) but wants one page > synopses of new and interesting ideas. Not > necessarily featuring the > original stars but just ideas that he can then > develop into scripts... So > get writing everybody. Forward them through me and I > know he'll respond to > the mail. > Question for you Jackie, and if it can't be answered on-list, could you email me off-list? When you say 'ideas that he can then develop into scripts' does that mean that our involvement ends with the synopsis? I'm curious about some other details, but won't go into it now, or on list. Bummer about the DVDs. I hope at least the UK market does well enough to warrant release of every season for the UK members. mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 21 Dec 2001 10:54:45 -0800 On Thursday, December 20, 2001, at 11:08 PM, Jackie Clark wrote: > The > company who now own the right to TP is called Revelations. They paid an > extortionate amount for the rights to produce video or DVD versions of > the > show for the UK only... :( Sorry folks but the USA was just way too > expensive, and they also do not have a US distributor to organise the > imports so it looks like the DVD's will not be coming your way! > Oh, they will. We'll just have to be creative about finding ways to play them. (Tigger's been mentally prepared for this, she was just expecting to have a job and furniture yet. Fortunately, I got mostly money for Hannukah. If anyone with a regionless DVD player has comments on their model, please send them to me *off-list*.) > In Jason's opinion they paid way too much and may not break even unless > they > get high volumes of sales. He fears that only the first few stories will > ever be produced and then they'll give up just like they did for the > video > all those years ago... :( > They're gonna sell a few more than I think. >> The first release of the Tomorrow People DVDs will be in February & >> will be > on single DVDs. The first >storyline will be completed over three discs > which will be released by May. Does that mean the first season or just Slaves of Jedikiah? (My g-d, they're not repeating screen gems' mistake of splitting it up on they? > Exclusively to MVC on volume 3 >will be a > free box which all three DVDs completing the storyline can be stored. > The > next storyline which will >be released in June will be in a boxed-set > DVD > package which will be exclusive to MVC. > 1) What's MVC and do they have a website? 2) Again, is this seasons/series or stories? (IE Are they counting Slaves of Jedikiah, The Medusa Strain, and Vanishing Earth as one storyline that are being released individually with The Blue and the Green, A Rift in Time, and The Doomsday Men as a box set. Or are they releasing SoJ on three and then Medusa Strain on one.) > So Jansuli you will definitely be able to get it in England. > Again, is there a website that ships internationally? (My trusty Mac will play them for me if nothing else will. :) > Last and final thing... He's looking for writers... He would prefer > those > with professional background (Shaun... this is for you) but wants one > page > synopses of new and interesting ideas. I'll echo Mike's question-- is this a pitch for permission to write a script and what kind of deadlines are we talking about? Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: Wow, TP sighting! Date: 21 Dec 2001 14:55:37 EST --part1_189.e3aea0.2954edb9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if this is incredibly old news, but I just saw The Lord of the Rings, and Christopher Lee, aka Rameses, is in it! He plays Saruman. I *knew* I recognized him somehow... -Geoff Old sig quotes: http://capmarvel.tripod.com/sig.html (now updated!) "Geoff, you're a regular hate-mail magnet. You're atheist, gay, and a TP!" -- Megan Kim: Take off your vest, Puritan. John: He's not a Puritan, he's a Quaker! There's a difference! John: What're you doing? Me: I'm cackling evilly, can't you tell? John: You're weird. Me: I know; haven't you seen my quotes? John: I have--I'm the first one! I'm so important. 'Lil Kim: I love [Andrea Bocelli]--he's adorable. If I was a guy I'd be so in love with him. Me: It's really funny that you said "if I was a guy" and not "if I was straight" ;) 'Lil Kim: Well, it's easier imagining myself as a guy than straight... That's too much of a stretch. "I hope one day your saliva glands stop working and you die a dry, spitless death." -- Marissa John: You are really funny online. I like it. Geoff: Hey, I'm really funny all the time! (Just ask the nurse at the psychiatric hostpital.) "It's actually pretty sad--but somehow very amusing!" -- Bizzie "I have to do my French homework now, even though I'd rather have my heart ripped out through my chest. (I think she has that planned for an in-class activity.)" -- Me --part1_189.e3aea0.2954edb9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if this is incredibly old news, but I just saw The Lord of the Rings, and Christopher Lee, aka Rameses, is in it! He plays Saruman. I *knew* I recognized him somehow...

-Geoff
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John: What're you doing?
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John: You're weird.
Me: I know; haven't you seen my quotes?
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'Lil Kim: I love [Andrea Bocelli]--he's adorable. If I was a guy I'd be so in love with him.
Me: It's really funny that you said "if I was a guy" and not "if I was straight" ;)
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"I have to do my French homework now, even though I'd rather have my heart ripped out through my chest. (I think she has that planned for an in-class activity.)" -- Me --part1_189.e3aea0.2954edb9_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 21 Dec 2001 22:21:06 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:25 PM > > Question for you Jackie, and if it can't be answered > on-list, could you email me off-list? > > When you say 'ideas that he can then develop into > scripts' does that mean that our involvement ends with > the synopsis? > > I'm curious about some other details, but won't go > into it now, or on list. > > Bummer about the DVDs. I hope at least the UK market > does well enough to warrant release of every season > for the UK members. > > mike At first all Jason wants is the ideas if he likes them he may ask the originator to write a script but if they do not have experience at this use someone else to develop the story line into something recordable... Any issues over copywrite you'd have to discuss with him. Jackie PS anyone can mail me off list about other things. I'll share any info I have available to me... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 21 Dec 2001 22:36:42 -0000 I'll try to answer if I can... ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:54 PM > > In Jason's opinion they paid way too much and may not break even unless > > they > > get high volumes of sales. He fears that only the first few stories will > > ever be produced and then they'll give up just like they did for the > > video > > all those years ago... :( > > > > They're gonna sell a few more than I think. > > >> The first release of the Tomorrow People DVDs will be in February & > >> will be > > on single DVDs. The first >storyline will be completed over three discs > > which will be released by May. > > Does that mean the first season or just Slaves of Jedikiah? (My g-d, > they're not repeating screen gems' mistake of splitting it up on they? I do get the strong feeling that they are splitting them up! I'll be mailing their marketting dept soon so will ask all the most pertinent questions... > > > Exclusively to MVC on volume 3 >will be a > > free box which all three DVDs completing the storyline can be stored. > > The > > next storyline which will >be released in June will be in a boxed-set > > DVD > > package which will be exclusive to MVC. > > > > 1) What's MVC and do they have a website? MVC are a UK music/entertainment store. They have negotiated distribution rights with reflections. As for web sites, wait and I'll have a link from my main page to where you can pre-order the DVD's. We just have to get the artwork sorted out first. And christmas is sort of in the way... > > 2) Again, is this seasons/series or stories? (IE Are they counting > Slaves of Jedikiah, The Medusa Strain, and Vanishing Earth as one > storyline that are being released individually with The Blue and the > Green, A Rift in Time, and The Doomsday Men as a box set. Or are they > releasing SoJ on three and then Medusa Strain on one.) I will ask all these questions of their marketing dept. > Again, is there a website that ships internationally? (My trusty Mac > will play them for me if nothing else will. :) This I must definately find out. Anyone who is interested I'll be sending a mail to with more details. > > I'll echo Mike's question-- is this a pitch for permission to write a > script and what kind of deadlines are we talking about? > Tigger > I've already replied to mike. Jason didn't mention any deadlines just said that he was surprised no fans had sent him stories to date and I said 'I can have you inundated with stories if you want!' he laughed and said 'single page synopses will do for now.' Is there anything else you need to know? Jackie (who will try to be in chat on Sunday) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: Sammie's Chat and other very important stuff! Date: 22 Dec 2001 10:43:00 +1100 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:36:42PM -0000, Jackie Clark wrote: > From: Beth Epstein > > > > > >> The first release of the Tomorrow People DVDs will be in February & > > >> will be > > > on single DVDs. The first >storyline will be completed over three discs > > > which will be released by May. > > > > Does that mean the first season or just Slaves of Jedikiah? (My g-d, > > they're not repeating screen gems' mistake of splitting it up on they? > > I do get the strong feeling that they are splitting them up! I'll be mailing > their marketting dept soon so will ask all the most pertinent questions... If they are splitting them up, I won't buy them. Splitting them up is a rip-off, and considering I have to multiply the price by three (ruddy exchange rate!) then I have to be a lot more picky about DVDs from the UK anyway. Boo hiss! Kathryn Andersen (who bought Farscape DVDs from the UK because she missed it when it showed on TV...) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dayna: So what happened? Were you overruled? Avon: The great passive majority psyched them into line. Telepathic communion is a wonderful thing. (Blake's 7: Children of Auron [C7]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ariana Brill Subject: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 21 Dec 2001 17:12:10 -0800 Actually, this is from both Tigger and Arpi (Tig's typing), since they're geographically close (shut up, Shaun): We've been having so much fun today that we thought we'd reopen the topic of a Tomorrow People convention either stateside or in the UK. All we really need is a block of hotel rooms and a big TV (and a local person to organize/volunteer their VCR or multisystem DVD player/laptop computer). If it was held somewhere on the East coast of the US (as discussed in chat the concentration of list members in that area may reach critical mass come the near future), how many people would be able to attend. (Not to steal Jackie's thunder if she still wants to organize a UK con, but Ariana and others might have trouble aquiring tickets.) Maybe we're being too optimistic (No, Darryl, Beth hasn't had too much sugar, honest), but we think it would be fun. --- Tigger & Arpi (who aren't as creative as Arpi and Geoff on sugar late at night) "List telpathy! That's the way I wanted to go!" -- Tigger "She's the one who recruited me to tpdis," -- Arpi "Oh, *she* started it? You're going to pay for your sins, girl!" -- Ariana's mother "Well, then, it's a good thing I'm Jewish." -- Beth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: TPDIS: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 21 Dec 2001 20:08:34 -0600 In-Reply-To: <189.e3aea0.2954edb9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I should read my TP mail occasionally... DVD of OS TP, interesting... Okay, I saw the region thing addressed, as there are DVD players you can buy that are codefree, and there's Firmware updates for older DVD-ROM players ( Make sure to buy one now, pretty soon they're going to start really cracking down on Firmware updates on newer ones ). It's too bad we can't convert it ourselves. ^_^ But something else to address, which is our British compatriots have PAL TVs where as the Americans have NTSC. Now, the computer DVDs just play them as is, but if you want to play it on your TV, well, I'm not sure if they play them as is. or they may look really horrid, I'm not sure. But the PAL/NTSC issue is something to bring up ( Until then we have a one world TV government under HDTV ) Later and Happy Holidays! Timothy O'Neal/Kishi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy O'Neal Subject: TPDIS: DVD fun... Date: 21 Dec 2001 19:09:49 -0700 I should read my TP mail occasionally... DVD of OS TP, interesting... Okay, I saw the region thing addressed, as there are DVD players you can buy that are codefree, and there's Firmware updates for older DVD-ROM players ( Make sure to buy one now, pretty soon they're going to start really cracking down on Firmware updates on newer ones ). It's too bad we can't convert it ourselves. ^_^ But something else to address, which is our British compatriots have PAL TVs where as the Americans have NTSC. Now, the computer DVDs just play them as is, but if you want to play it on your TV, well, I'm not sure if they play them as is. or they may look really horrid, I'm not sure. But the PAL/NTSC issue is something to bring up ( Until then we have a one world TV government under HDTV ) Later and Happy Holidays! Timothy O'Neal/Kishi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: DVD update Date: 21 Dec 2001 21:32:16 EST --part1_f4.13fba7ec.29554ab0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now if only they will mail it to the US, which they won't. --part1_f4.13fba7ec.29554ab0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now if only they will mail it to the US, which they won't. --part1_f4.13fba7ec.29554ab0_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Jackson Subject: Re: TPDIS: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 21 Dec 2001 18:45:48 -0800 (PST) Once, someone is making a assumption that HDTV broadcast stanard is going to be the same throughout the world. I say don't hold your breath on that one. -JP --- Wendy Perkins wrote: > From: Timothy O'Neal > Subject: TPDIS: DVD fun... > To: tpdis@lists.xmission.com > In-Reply-To: <189.e3aea0.2954edb9@aol.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I should read my TP mail occasionally... DVD of OS > TP, > interesting... Okay, I saw the region thing > addressed, > as there are DVD players you can buy that are > codefree, and there's Firmware updates for older > DVD-ROM players ( Make sure to buy one now, pretty > soon they're going to start really cracking down on > Firmware updates on newer ones ). It's too bad we > can't convert it ourselves. ^_^ But something else > to > address, which is our British compatriots have PAL > TVs > where as the Americans have NTSC. Now, the computer > DVDs just play them as is, but if you want to play > it > on your TV, well, I'm not sure if they play them as > is. or they may look really horrid, I'm not sure. > But > the PAL/NTSC issue is something to bring up ( Until > then we have a one world TV government under HDTV ) > Later and Happy Holidays! > > Timothy O'Neal/Kishi > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > ===== --- John Jackson jpjackso@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 21 Dec 2001 23:34:20 EST --part1_190.24d12e.2955674c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey you two! That'd _totally_ rule. Next year we'll both be at Vassar , and I think that a few other list members may be up in NY. How many list members will be off at college next year, anyway? That seems like an ideal place, since it wouldn't be hard to get rooms and a projector. In a message dated 12/21/2001 8:17:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, saylormars@mail.com writes: > Actually, this is from both Tigger and Arpi (Tig's typing), since they're > geographically close (shut up, Shaun): > We've been having so much fun today that we thought we'd reopen the topic > of a Tomorrow People convention either stateside or in the UK. All we > really need is a > block of hotel rooms and a big TV (and a local person to organize/volunteer > their VCR or multisystem DVD player/laptop computer). > > If it was held somewhere on the East coast of the US (as discussed in chat > the concentration of list members in that area may reach critical mass come > the near future), > how many people would be able to attend. (Not to steal Jackie's thunder if > she still wants to organize a UK con, but Ariana and others might have > trouble aquiring > tickets.) Maybe we're being too optimistic (No, Darryl, Beth hasn't had > too much sugar, honest), but we think it would be fun. --- Geoff "Yay porn ads on ICQ! It's just part of the experience :)" -- Arpi On Belgians: "Damn them and their tasty waffles." -- Erich On being insane: "Yeah, people who stand up and talk about Jesus tend to be." -- David Glasser "I think I agree with you--it sounds like he was smokin' crack with that idea of his." -- Melissa "We could fight with chairs!" -- Arpi "It feels like it ought to be a full moon, what with everyone acting nuts. (Or at least a moon full of hungry squirrels.)" -- Me "Boo Geoff! Bad karma!" -- Sara Me: Hey, what do you want for Christmas? Sara: Uh... your soul. Me: Sorry, I sold that *years* ago. "I think it has something to do with the fact that mine's uberillegal." -- Sara "Go dorkdom!... I seem to be saying that a lot lately." -- Me Arpi: So THIS is how you get all those quotes! Me: I'm quoting you on that, too. Arpi: Wow, the University of Phoenix is advertising on dictionary.com! That's pretty desperate. Me: That's pretty ghetto. Arpi: I guess I'll cross that one off my list. Too bad, the University of Phoenix was my number one choice up until right now. --part1_190.24d12e.2955674c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey you two! That'd _totally_ rule. Next year we'll both be at Vassar <evil cackles>, and I think that a few other list members may be up in NY. How many list members will be off at college next year, anyway? That seems like an ideal place, since it wouldn't be hard to get rooms and a projector.

In a message dated 12/21/2001 8:17:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, saylormars@mail.com writes:

Actually, this is from both Tigger and Arpi (Tig's typing), since they're geographically close (shut up, Shaun):
We've been having so much fun today that we thought we'd reopen the topic of a Tomorrow People convention either stateside or in the UK. All we really need is a
block of hotel rooms and a big TV (and a local person to organize/volunteer their VCR or multisystem DVD player/laptop computer).

If it was held somewhere on the East coast of the US (as discussed in chat the concentration of list members in that area may reach critical mass come the near future),
how many people would be able to attend. (Not to steal Jackie's thunder if she still wants to organize a UK con, but Ariana and others might have trouble aquiring
tickets.) Maybe we're being too optimistic (No, Darryl, Beth hasn't had too much sugar, honest), but we think it would be fun.

---
Geoff

"Yay porn ads on ICQ! It's just part of the experience :)" -- Arpi

On Belgians: "Damn them and their tasty waffles." -- Erich

On being insane: "Yeah, people who stand up and talk about Jesus tend to be." -- David Glasser

"I think I agree with you--it sounds like he was smokin' crack with that idea of his." -- Melissa

"We could fight with chairs!" -- Arpi

"It feels like it ought to be a full moon, what with everyone acting nuts. (Or at least a moon full of hungry squirrels.)" -- Me

"Boo Geoff! Bad karma!" -- Sara

Me: Hey, what do you want for Christmas?
Sara: Uh... your soul.
Me: Sorry, I sold that *years* ago.

"I think it has something to do with the fact that mine's uberillegal." -- Sara

"Go dorkdom!... I seem to be saying that a lot lately." -- Me

Arpi: So THIS is how you get all those quotes!

Me: I'm quoting you on that, too.

Arpi: Wow, the University of Phoenix is advertising on dictionary.com! That's pretty desperate.
Me: That's pretty ghetto.
Arpi: I guess I'll cross that one off my list. Too bad, the University of Phoenix was my number one choice up until right now. --part1_190.24d12e.2955674c_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 22 Dec 2001 00:35:56 -0600 (CST) Great idea - another possibility is to link it up with another general-purpose sci-fi/fantasy convention. I'm not too much into it myself, but some of the cons around here (Minnesota), such as CONvergence, are pretty open to public viewings. OK, not east coast, but I know enough people who run it, that I could get more details if necessary. Aaron --- Aaron Lee Propes InteractiveTheatre.org - Using drama to educate on sexual assault http://www.interactivetheatre.org On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Ariana Brill wrote: > Actually, this is from both Tigger and Arpi (Tig's typing), since they're geographically close (shut up, Shaun): > We've been having so much fun today that we thought we'd reopen the topic of a Tomorrow People convention either stateside or in the UK. All we really need is a > block of hotel rooms and a big TV (and a local person to organize/volunteer their VCR or multisystem DVD player/laptop computer). > > If it was held somewhere on the East coast of the US (as discussed in chat the concentration of list members in that area may reach critical mass come the near future), > how many people would be able to attend. (Not to steal Jackie's thunder if she still wants to organize a UK con, but Ariana and others might have trouble aquiring > tickets.) Maybe we're being too optimistic (No, Darryl, Beth hasn't had too much sugar, honest), but we think it would be fun. > > --- > Tigger & Arpi (who aren't as creative as Arpi and Geoff on sugar late at night) > > "List telpathy! That's the way I wanted to go!" -- Tigger > > "She's the one who recruited me to tpdis," -- Arpi > "Oh, *she* started it? You're going to pay for your sins, girl!" -- Ariana's mother > "Well, then, it's a good thing I'm Jewish." -- Beth > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jackie zalewski" Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 22 Dec 2001 09:28:05 -0500 Hiya my boyfriend and I both live outside of NYC and you can count us in on any TP thing! sounds like much fun... peace jmz _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thirdromana@netscape.net (Kristin 'Duckie' Dunn) Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 22 Dec 2001 12:39:13 -0500 who-ho! Something to get me out of the house! Maybe even the state! Snifty! When we say East-coast, how east cost? That would be all that I need to know. And I may be able to help out if you all want to do it at Miami University (Ohio sorry no Florida) And it would have to wate untill August or sept... Or maybe not.. ::evil evil laugh:: Maybe we need to do a state side location thingee again so we can figure out where would be the best place to hold this. And for the few of us off to college... Road Trip! Kristin <--who still has a mental hangover from exams (yes it's a bad term but the best) -- "It's great to be known, but it's even better to be known as strange." -Takeshi Kaga ~Iron Chef "tell me what you eat, and I'll tell you who you are." --Brillat-Savarin "I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another idea to get us killed, or worse, expelled! She really needs to sort out her priorites." Ron and Hermione ~Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone~ "The teeth are smiling, but is the heart?" "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." Zen Proverb __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: TPDIS: Advertising The Tomorrow People Date: 22 Dec 2001 19:05:50 -0000 In reply to the comments below > > In Jason's opinion they paid way too much and may not break even unless > > they > > get high volumes of sales. He fears that only the first few stories will > > ever be produced and then they'll give up just like they did for the > > video > > all those years ago... :( What are the sales for the Audio CD's like? Is Jason pleased with his sales? I have got the CD's that are out and am waiting for each new one - very patiently after all I have waited for them for nearly 30 years!! I have really enjoyed them so please pass my thanks on to Jason :-) I have been lucky enough to get on the internet and have found this discussion list and the brilliant web sites about the TP's. But I have not seen or heard anything about the TP Audio CD anywhere else! So although I would have brought the CD's I would not have known anything about them without the internet! There must be others out there who have not come across them or even heard about them! So will the DVD's be advertised so it will be easy for everyone to know that they are around? I didn't even know about any videos being released at anytime - I live in England and I believe they were available here!! Even worse I missed them :-( Still I am enjoying the CD's and I am in the right place for the DVD's - although I haven't broken the news to hubby that we will be buying a DVD player next year. Perhaps there should be a deal set up so that anyone who buys a player and a TP DVD gets a discount :-) Still I will now get off my soap box and get some Christmas wrapping done. Bye Bye jansulli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 22 Dec 2001 17:17:31 -0800 (PST) --- Ariana Brill wrote: > Actually, this is from both Tigger and Arpi (Tig's > typing), since they're geographically close (shut > up, Shaun): not to mention mentally <> > We've been having so much fun today that we thought > we'd reopen the topic of a Tomorrow People > convention either stateside or in the UK > I'd be up for a stateside convention. Much as I'd LOVE to go to the UK, I doubt I could afford it and/or justify it. (Even for TP - unless someone can get a jaunting belt to me) I'm an East Coaster as well. I'm not too sure on what my school and/or work situation is liable to be like as I'm anticipating graduating with my MS in mid-summer (yay) and will hopefully be gainfully employed by then. I'm definitely interested though, and if I can help out in any way, please let me know. mike - forgetting how cold New York can be in the winter-time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: tpdis convention Date: 22 Dec 2001 20:02:55 -0800 > > > > We've been having so much fun today that we thought > > we'd reopen the topic of a Tomorrow People > > convention either stateside or in the UK Yep, I've love to go to a convention, provided it's relatively close. I'm a West Coaster, unfortunately though. Pacific Northwest. What would happen at a TP convention anyways? -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Advertising The Tomorrow People Date: 23 Dec 2001 20:44:22 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 7:05 PM > > What are the sales for the Audio CD's like? Is Jason pleased with his sales? > I have got the CD's that are out and am waiting for each new one - very > patiently after all I have waited for them for nearly 30 years!! I have > really enjoyed them so please pass my thanks on to Jason :-) I will pass on your comments. In fact he really likes the audio reviews on various web pages and said thanks to the fans for helping promote the cd's. As for sales... when they forcasted the potential of the TP cd's Jason needed 1600 sold in order to break even. That he did in the first few weeks which is why he comnmitted himself to 4 in the first year. Sales have been excellent and that's why he's now committed to another 4 next year too. But the problem with DVD's is that they are so much more expensive to produce. Not in terms of technical expense but the outlay for the rights means that overall profit on each one is poor. I am speculating here ok. This is my own opinion but I do tend to agree with Jason that unless the copany puts a lot into promoting the DVD sales then this venture could fall flat. That's why I've agreed to work with MVC. I'm getting nothing but the satisfaciton that if my promoting them through my site or by mailing people in my data base then it all goes towards the success of the project and holds back the possibility of the company abandoning the idea after releasing just a few stories. I don't have a complete set of videos and really want to be able to buy the whole set on dvd to watch again and again with no fears of wearing out the tape! Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: TPDVD Amazon UK will mail... Date: 23 Dec 2001 21:12:23 EST --part1_130.6b47219.2957e907_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to the US. Get yours while you can and then worry about how to get a machine to play it. This week I am watching: LAND OF THE GIANTS: TERROR GO ROUND and LAND OF THE GIANTS: SABOTAGE and JURASSIC PARK 3 and the new show ALIAS (just giving it a try). A new show MUTANT X is very cool too and very like TP (although I admit to liking it a bit more). --part1_130.6b47219.2957e907_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to the US. Get yours while you can and then worry about how to get a machine to play it.

This week I am watching: LAND OF THE GIANTS: TERROR GO ROUND and LAND OF THE GIANTS: SABOTAGE and JURASSIC PARK 3 and the new show ALIAS (just giving it a try). A new show MUTANT X is very cool too and very like TP (although I admit to liking it a bit more). --part1_130.6b47219.2957e907_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: TPDIS: Fwd: I had this virus!! Date: 23 Dec 2001 19:42:53 -0800 Okay. I just basically found out tonight I had a virus that was sent to my roommate's email, which is explained below. I sincerely hope no one else has this too! I know it's off TP-topic, but it's important! -Drew >Delivered-To: grzlybr@wvi.com >X-Originating-IP: [12.76.86.191] >From: "Shirley Winnes" >To: r_gerstner@hotmail.com, imnlh@hotmail.com, poli@intred.it, > satkinson@uplogon.com, baehnman@famvid.com, bobbyjim@zianet.com, > fv10rchid@aol.com, jann@chartermi.net, Beimmot2@cs.com, > chuck@carlson.org, JTHECASHMANS@aol.com, richcole@gwi.net, > MaryCuene@msn.com, cdean@nwtc.tec.wi.us, msdouglas@aol.com, > drex@g2a.net, drexll@dhfs.state.wi.us, mutzie45@hotmail.com, > jules@usxchange.net, sehren@luxcasco.k12.wi.us, malice@athenet.net, > esthererdmann@yahoo.com, bkfraser1@yahoo.com, wil-ruth@athenet.net, > gloriajean@earthlink.net, slhal@yahoo.com, paul.hartman@ces.uwex.edu, > bjhathaway1@yahoo.com, hechelmb@webtv.net, ga68herman@juno.com, > Janis@seaviewdiving.com, joyner@msmary.edu, jkaeske@swfla.rr.com, > Knudy@cybrzn.com, pinestar@excel.net, darrelmarsha@gbonline.com, > naumannm@uwgb.edu, janewlun@aol.com, loco_shortlane@yahoo.com, > hjplansky@juno.com, EPogorelc@aol.com, jim@keyinsuranceinc.com, > jjpresnall@aol.com, n_pum@hotmail.com, quistdd@dhfs.state.wi.us, > grzlybr@wvi.com, woodcock_28@hotmail.com, joanremm@hssd.k12.wi.us >Subject: Fwd: I had this virus!! >Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:11:26 -0600 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2001 23:11:27.0189 (UTC) >FILETIME=[25EAD050:01C18C07] > > > > >>From: "JoAnn Truss" >>Reply-To: "JoAnn Truss" >>To: "Vince Cimino" , "Tony & Colette Schmidt" >>, "Tom and Mimi" , "Tom & >>Mary Furlong" , "Todd Felhofer" >>, "Steven Truss" , >>"Steve Hessle" , "Stephanie Platt" >>, "Shirley" , >>"Shellie Home Blumenfield" , "Sharon Douglas" >>, "Scott Miller" >>, "Sandy Mader-Ehren" >>, "Sandi Fogo" , >>, "Roger Truss" , "Rog >>and Sandy" , "Rog and Cheryl" >>, "Roberta Stadler" >>, "Richard Holle" >>, "Rich & Ann Gainey" >>, "Peg Young" , "Paul >>Cappoferi" , "Pat Cummings" >>, >>"Pascal Zytomirski" , "Nancy Marsho" >>, "Nancy Lieb" >>, "Nancy Curtis" , "Ms. >>Pamela Ryder" , "Mr. Shawn Yde" >>, >>"Mike & Carol Donahue" , "michael mcelwee" >>, "Maureen Polczynski" , >>"Mary Delany" , "Lee Johnson" , >> "Laina Work" , "Laina Truss" >> , "Kristyn Skipper" >> , "Kathy Kupfer" >> , "Kathy Kelley" , >>"Kathy Jochman" , "Kathy & Bob Colclasure" >>, "Karen Kahle" , "Karen K. >>Sparks" , "Judy Van Stralen" >>, "Judi Stadler" , "John >>and Carol" , "Joannie Alice" , >>"Jim Gill" , "Jim Arnold" , >>"Jerry Valentine" , "Jerry Chopp" >>, "Jenson Mary Beth" , "Jeff >>Treul" , "James & Elizabeth Olm" >>, "Jaki Delakis" , "Holle Kelley" >>, "Heather Joyce" , "Gloria >>Gaworski" , "Fredrika Harper" >>, "DONNA GODDARD" , "Donna >>Drontle" , "Donalyn Bellinger" , >>"Don & Janet Brown Kitson" , "Dick & Lynn >>Seifert" , "Diane Hoge" >>, "David Oliver Miller" >>, "David Oliver Miller" >>, "David Cox" , >>, "Cindy Martinson" >>, "Cheryl Work Truss" >>, "Charlie Korsch" , >>"Cathy Work Pomaranski" , "Cathy Pomaranski" >>, , "Carl Truss" >>, "Bruce Marne" , "Bonnie and Harry" >>, "Bob Work Stone" , "Bob >>Westphal" , "Bob Home Stone" >>, "Beck Gorder" , "Barb >>Sonnenberg" , "Barb & Gary Broberg" >>, "Ask Us" , >>, "Anlee Olson-Reid" , >>"Angela McCullough" >>Subject: I had this virus!! >>Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:05:10 -0600 >> >>Hi! >>I received a message from someone in my address book with >>the information that this virus had appeared on his machine and >>because I was in his address book that I probably had it too. >> >>It is a new virus so my virus scan did not detect it. >> >>Sure enough when I followed directions, there it was. So you >>are probably infected since you are in my address book. I have >>copied the instructions for getting rid of it. I suggest you do it NOW. >> >>This virus lies dormant for 14 days, then it destroys your hard >>drive. Here's how to stop it. If you've got it, send this to everyone >>in your address book. The directions for removing it are easy. It >>takes less than a minute. >> >>1. Go to 'start' - then to 'find or search' (depending on your >>computer). >>2. In the "search for files or folder's", type in sulfnbk.exe --this is >>the virus. >>3. In the 'look in', make sure you're searching the C Drive. >>4. Hit the 'search' button (or find). >>5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the >>name 'sulfnbk.exe'), DO NOT OPEN IT! >>6. Right click on the file (ONLY CLICK ONCE!) - go down to delete and >>left click. >>7. It will ask you if you want to send the file to the recycle bin- say >>Yes. >>8. Go to your desktop opening screen ( where all the icons are) and >>double click on the recycle bin. >>9. Right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again - or empty the bin. >> >>If you DO find it, please send this e-mail to all in your address book, >>because that's how it's transferred. >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: HOAX Re: TPDIS: Fwd: I had this virus!! Date: 23 Dec 2001 20:15:01 -0800 (PST) EVERYONE ON LIST: DO NOT DELETE FILES LISTED IN THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE Drew, I know you had the best intentions, but this is a hoax. One that went around about six or seven months ago and now seems to be rearing its head again. The file sulfnbk.exe is a Windows utility file and serves an actual function on your computer. You may have problems with some of your files without this utility. This hoax perpetuates damage more readily than a virus does because people believe the email and follow the instructions blindly, without checking the story out. For more information check out: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99084& If the link doesn't work, just go to McAfee's Virus Hoax webpage. Sorry you fell victim to this, Drew. Hopefully you'll be able to get this information out to people you contacted before they go and delete software from their computers. mike --- Drew Thiele wrote: > > Okay. I just basically found out tonight I had a > virus that was sent to my > roommate's email, which is explained below. I > sincerely hope no one else > has this too! I know it's off TP-topic, but it's > important! > > -Drew > > > >Delivered-To: grzlybr@wvi.com > >X-Originating-IP: [12.76.86.191] > >From: "Shirley Winnes" > >To: r_gerstner@hotmail.com, imnlh@hotmail.com, > poli@intred.it, > > satkinson@uplogon.com, > baehnman@famvid.com, bobbyjim@zianet.com, > > fv10rchid@aol.com, jann@chartermi.net, > Beimmot2@cs.com, > > chuck@carlson.org, JTHECASHMANS@aol.com, > richcole@gwi.net, > > MaryCuene@msn.com, cdean@nwtc.tec.wi.us, > msdouglas@aol.com, > > drex@g2a.net, drexll@dhfs.state.wi.us, > mutzie45@hotmail.com, > > jules@usxchange.net, > sehren@luxcasco.k12.wi.us, malice@athenet.net, > > esthererdmann@yahoo.com, > bkfraser1@yahoo.com, wil-ruth@athenet.net, > > gloriajean@earthlink.net, slhal@yahoo.com, > paul.hartman@ces.uwex.edu, > > bjhathaway1@yahoo.com, hechelmb@webtv.net, > ga68herman@juno.com, > > Janis@seaviewdiving.com, > joyner@msmary.edu, jkaeske@swfla.rr.com, > > Knudy@cybrzn.com, pinestar@excel.net, > darrelmarsha@gbonline.com, > > naumannm@uwgb.edu, janewlun@aol.com, > loco_shortlane@yahoo.com, > > hjplansky@juno.com, EPogorelc@aol.com, > jim@keyinsuranceinc.com, > > jjpresnall@aol.com, n_pum@hotmail.com, > quistdd@dhfs.state.wi.us, > > grzlybr@wvi.com, woodcock_28@hotmail.com, > joanremm@hssd.k12.wi.us > >Subject: Fwd: I had this virus!! > >Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:11:26 -0600 > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2001 23:11:27.0189 > (UTC) > >FILETIME=[25EAD050:01C18C07] > > > > > > > > > >>From: "JoAnn Truss" > >>Reply-To: "JoAnn Truss" > >>To: "Vince Cimino" , "Tony > & Colette Schmidt" > >>, "Tom and Mimi" > , "Tom & > >>Mary Furlong" , "Todd > Felhofer" > >>, "Steven Truss" > , > >>"Steve Hessle" , > "Stephanie Platt" > >>, "Shirley" > , > >>"Shellie Home Blumenfield" , > "Sharon Douglas" > >>, "Scott Miller" > >>, "Sandy Mader-Ehren" > >>, "Sandi Fogo" > , > >>, "Roger Truss" > , "Rog > >>and Sandy" , > "Rog and Cheryl" > >>, "Roberta Stadler" > >>, "Richard Holle" > >>, "Rich & Ann Gainey" > >>, "Peg Young" > , "Paul > >>Cappoferi" , "Pat > Cummings" > >>, > >>"Pascal Zytomirski" , "Nancy > Marsho" > >>, "Nancy > Lieb" > >>, "Nancy Curtis" > , "Ms. > >>Pamela Ryder" , "Mr. > Shawn Yde" > >>, > >>"Mike & Carol Donahue" , > "michael mcelwee" > >>, "Maureen Polczynski" > , > >>"Mary Delany" , "Lee Johnson" > , > >> "Laina Work" , > "Laina Truss" > >> , "Kristyn Skipper" > >> , "Kathy > Kupfer" > >> , "Kathy Kelley" > , > >>"Kathy Jochman" , "Kathy & > Bob Colclasure" > >>, "Karen Kahle" > , "Karen K. > >>Sparks" , "Judy Van > Stralen" > >>, "Judi Stadler" > , "John > >>and Carol" , "Joannie Alice" > , > >>"Jim Gill" , "Jim Arnold" > , > >>"Jerry Valentine" , > "Jerry Chopp" > >>, "Jenson Mary Beth" > , "Jeff > >>Treul" , "James & > Elizabeth Olm" > >>, "Jaki Delakis" > , "Holle Kelley" > >>, "Heather Joyce" > , "Gloria > >>Gaworski" , "Fredrika > Harper" > >>, "DONNA GODDARD" > , "Donna > >>Drontle" , "Donalyn Bellinger" > , > >>"Don & Janet Brown Kitson" > , "Dick & Lynn > >>Seifert" , "Diane Hoge" > >>, "David Oliver Miller" > > >>, "David Oliver Miller" > >>, "David Cox" > , > >>, "Cindy Martinson" > >>, "Cheryl > Work Truss" > >>, "Charlie > Korsch" , > >>"Cathy Work Pomaranski" > , "Cathy Pomaranski" > >>, , > "Carl Truss" > >>, "Bruce Marne" > , "Bonnie and Harry" > >>, "Bob Work Stone" > , "Bob > >>Westphal" , "Bob > Home Stone" > >>, "Beck Gorder" > , "Barb > >>Sonnenberg" , "Barb & > Gary Broberg" > >>, "Ask Us" > , > >>, "Anlee > Olson-Reid" , > >>"Angela McCullough" > >>Subject: I had this virus!! > >>Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:05:10 -0600 > >> > >>Hi! > >>I received a message from someone in my address > book with > >>the information that this virus had appeared on > his machine and > >>because I was in his address book that I probably > had it too. > >> > >>It is a new virus so my virus scan did not detect > it. > >> > >>Sure enough when I followed directions, there it > was. So you > >>are probably infected since you are in my address > book. I have > >>copied the instructions for getting rid of it. I > suggest you do it NOW. > >> > >>This virus lies dormant for 14 days, then it > destroys your hard > >>drive. Here's how to stop it. If you've got it, > send this to everyone > >>in your address book. The directions for removing > it are easy. It > >>takes less than a minute. > >> > >>1. Go to 'start' - then to 'find or search' > (depending on your > >>computer). > >>2. In the "search for files or folder's", type in > sulfnbk.exe --this is > >>the virus. > >>3. In the 'look in', make sure you're searching > the C Drive. > >>4. Hit the 'search' button (or find). > >>5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish > icon that will have the > >>name 'sulfnbk.exe'), DO NOT OPEN IT! > >>6. Right click on the file (ONLY CLICK ONCE!) - go > down to delete and > >>left click. > >>7. It will ask you if you want to send the file to > the recycle bin- say > >>Yes. > >>8. Go to your desktop opening screen ( where all > the icons are) and > >>double click on the recycle bin. > >>9. Right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again - > or empty the bin. > >> > >>If you DO find it, please send this e-mail to all > in your address book, > >>because that's how it's transferred. > >> > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > http://mobile.msn.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: TPDIS: I'm sorry to spam you guys. Date: 23 Dec 2001 20:21:41 -0800 Dammit. I apparently was told it was an hoax when I asked about it...I'm sorry to bother you guys about it. I also looked it up on the net, afterwards, and found it was a hoax for sure. DO NOT DELETE the "claimed" Virus! It's apparently a program that handles large files/long name alias thingies. The file I'm talking about is Sulfnbk.exe And here is an url that worked for me to restore my file after I deleted it. http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/sulf.html I wouldn't be surprised if I was banned from the list or something, at least for a few days :P -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Jackson Subject: Re: TPDIS: Fwd: I had this virus!! Date: 24 Dec 2001 05:49:30 -0800 (PST) You are a moron. First, you should have double-checked the your information before you sent this to the list. Do you believe everthing that people email to you? This is clearly a a **HOAX ** http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=SULFNBK+Hoax --- Drew Thiele wrote: > > Okay. I just basically found out tonight I had a > virus that was sent to my > roommate's email, which is explained below. I > sincerely hope no one else > has this too! I know it's off TP-topic, but it's > important! > > -Drew > > > >Delivered-To: grzlybr@wvi.com > >X-Originating-IP: [12.76.86.191] > >From: "Shirley Winnes" > >To: r_gerstner@hotmail.com, imnlh@hotmail.com, > poli@intred.it, > > satkinson@uplogon.com, > baehnman@famvid.com, bobbyjim@zianet.com, > > fv10rchid@aol.com, jann@chartermi.net, > Beimmot2@cs.com, > > chuck@carlson.org, JTHECASHMANS@aol.com, > richcole@gwi.net, > > MaryCuene@msn.com, cdean@nwtc.tec.wi.us, > msdouglas@aol.com, > > drex@g2a.net, drexll@dhfs.state.wi.us, > mutzie45@hotmail.com, > > jules@usxchange.net, > sehren@luxcasco.k12.wi.us, malice@athenet.net, > > esthererdmann@yahoo.com, > bkfraser1@yahoo.com, wil-ruth@athenet.net, > > gloriajean@earthlink.net, slhal@yahoo.com, > paul.hartman@ces.uwex.edu, > > bjhathaway1@yahoo.com, hechelmb@webtv.net, > ga68herman@juno.com, > > Janis@seaviewdiving.com, > joyner@msmary.edu, jkaeske@swfla.rr.com, > > Knudy@cybrzn.com, pinestar@excel.net, > darrelmarsha@gbonline.com, > > naumannm@uwgb.edu, janewlun@aol.com, > loco_shortlane@yahoo.com, > > hjplansky@juno.com, EPogorelc@aol.com, > jim@keyinsuranceinc.com, > > jjpresnall@aol.com, n_pum@hotmail.com, > quistdd@dhfs.state.wi.us, > > grzlybr@wvi.com, woodcock_28@hotmail.com, > joanremm@hssd.k12.wi.us > >Subject: Fwd: I had this virus!! > >Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:11:26 -0600 > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2001 23:11:27.0189 > (UTC) > >FILETIME=[25EAD050:01C18C07] > > > > > > > > > >>From: "JoAnn Truss" > >>Reply-To: "JoAnn Truss" > >>To: "Vince Cimino" , "Tony > & Colette Schmidt" > >>, "Tom and Mimi" > , "Tom & > >>Mary Furlong" , "Todd > Felhofer" > >>, "Steven Truss" > , > >>"Steve Hessle" , > "Stephanie Platt" > >>, "Shirley" > , > >>"Shellie Home Blumenfield" , > "Sharon Douglas" > >>, "Scott Miller" > >>, "Sandy Mader-Ehren" > >>, "Sandi Fogo" > , > >>, "Roger Truss" > , "Rog > >>and Sandy" , > "Rog and Cheryl" > >>, "Roberta Stadler" > >>, "Richard Holle" > >>, "Rich & Ann Gainey" > >>, "Peg Young" > , "Paul > >>Cappoferi" , "Pat > Cummings" > >>, > >>"Pascal Zytomirski" , "Nancy > Marsho" > >>, "Nancy > Lieb" > >>, "Nancy Curtis" > , "Ms. > >>Pamela Ryder" , "Mr. > Shawn Yde" > >>, > >>"Mike & Carol Donahue" , > "michael mcelwee" > >>, "Maureen Polczynski" > , > >>"Mary Delany" , "Lee Johnson" > , > >> "Laina Work" , > "Laina Truss" > >> , "Kristyn Skipper" > >> , "Kathy > Kupfer" > >> , "Kathy Kelley" > , > >>"Kathy Jochman" , "Kathy & > Bob Colclasure" > >>, "Karen Kahle" > , "Karen K. > >>Sparks" , "Judy Van > Stralen" > >>, "Judi Stadler" > , "John > >>and Carol" , "Joannie Alice" > , > >>"Jim Gill" , "Jim Arnold" > , > >>"Jerry Valentine" , > "Jerry Chopp" > >>, "Jenson Mary Beth" > , "Jeff > >>Treul" , "James & > Elizabeth Olm" > >>, "Jaki Delakis" > , "Holle Kelley" > >>, "Heather Joyce" > , "Gloria > >>Gaworski" , "Fredrika > Harper" > >>, "DONNA GODDARD" > , "Donna > >>Drontle" , "Donalyn Bellinger" > , > >>"Don & Janet Brown Kitson" > , "Dick & Lynn > >>Seifert" , "Diane Hoge" > >>, "David Oliver Miller" > > >>, "David Oliver Miller" > >>, "David Cox" > , > >>, "Cindy Martinson" > >>