From: Jasmine Sadrieh <jmsadrieh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TPDIS: The Blackout of Jedikiah
Date: 01 Sep 2004 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT)

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>(For those who don't know, Nickelodeon expressly asked for one of the
>serials to feature a pop star and a pet dog, 
 
They must've been inspired by the OS story, "The Blackout of Jedikiah".  John suspects Jedikiah of trying to hijack the electrical system and sends Stephen to work undercover in a power plant.  Mike's band Flintlock, meanwhile, is offered the opportunity to appear on a television show that they are sure will catapult them to instant stardom.  However, moments before Flintlock's appearance, Stephen *accidentally* uses telekinesis to shut down the power grid for all of Western Europe.  The Prime Minister is furious and tries to contact John and Elizabeth, but they have a wireless phone and it doesn't work during the blackout.  John and Elizabeth manage to restore the power by rigging a jumper cable in outer space, and the Prime Minister tries to restore his reputation in light of the crisis by appearing on television and giving a moving speech about his childhood dog Checkers...
 
-Jasmine



		
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<DIV>&gt;(For those who don't know, Nickelodeon expressly asked for one of the<BR>&gt;serials to feature a pop star and a pet dog, </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>They must've been inspired by the OS story, "The Blackout of Jedikiah".&nbsp; John suspects Jedikiah of trying to hijack the electrical system and sends Stephen to work undercover in a power plant.&nbsp; Mike's band Flintlock, meanwhile, is offered the opportunity to appear on a television show that they are sure will catapult them to instant stardom.&nbsp; However, moments before Flintlock's appearance, Stephen *accidentally* uses telekinesis to shut down the power grid for all of Western Europe.&nbsp; The Prime Minister is furious and tries to contact John and Elizabeth, but they have a wireless phone and it doesn't work during the blackout.&nbsp; John and Elizabeth manage to restore the power by rigging a jumper cable in outer space, and the Prime Minister tries to restore his reputation in light of the crisis by appearing on television and giving a moving speech about his childhood dog Checkers...</DIV>
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From: kytriyal@comcast.net
Subject: Re: TPDIS:play.com/play usa.com
Date: 01 Sep 2004 15:48:29 +0000


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Here is the letter I got from play.com:

Dear Stephanie Luebeck ,   
 
Thank you for your email.
 
I am sorry that we are unable to supply region 2 items for you. Obviously this is a law which we are unable to alter. However strange it may be.
 
The biggest problem we face is copy right laws, and also grossly over the top taxes also impede our region 2 service to the US.
 
We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. If any thing is to change regarding this issue in future we will advertise the fact on our site.

Kind regards,
 
Email Support Team
 
Play

I wonder how other companies get around it? I wonder if the company who shall remain nameless even pays the over the top fees? I wouldn't mind paying more just to keep hollywood from getting the greedy hands on my money. However, I do think that it is about time that hollywood's grip on congress (national congress) was pried off with force - the force of justice and perhaps a bleepin good lawyer. It would take a lawyer so skilled at debate that they could sell a life time hair cutting  and perm job to a bald guy who is not going to grow hair or get those new hair techniques done. It will take proving that regional dvd's and high tarriffs on region 2 are only hurting Americans and discriminating against are free choice to choose what we want to buy. Currently, according to play.com, it is practically, but not totally, illegal for an American to buy anything that is not region 1. "The good Life" may have copyright laws in America as "The Good Neighbor" which is owned by someone else perhaps and has the exclusive to selling their version here. However, I did find a company who will give me the real version. Thankfully! I wonder if the company I go thru just absorbs the cost? Sendit.com has been very good in sending me the Tomorrow People dvd's. I highly recommend them. I just wish that I could find out about other brit comedy shows that aren't ever shown here. Someday, I will go to England with $8000 and spend away. Yeah right, and money grows on trees, and I am the Queen's adopted daughter! Maybe, someday I will get to England and be able to spend $1000 (500 pounds) on dvd's and what nots. It just isn't a priority. Just a dream. 
--
TPKyteroo jaunting off

To be or not to be may be the question, 
but  the answer is a definent maybe I 
should of, could of... if only.

What one man ponders, the other man retorts. But a good response to both men as always is: "Pull the other one, Mate!" [Thanks Roger Price!]




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In a message dated 8/28/2004 5:50:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
kytriyal@comcast.net writes:
For once I will be here! I am not going out of town as originally planned. 
Not going camping. Spent $1200 on car repairs and maintanence instead.
--
Kytriya Luebeck
kytriyal@comcast.net
I'm glad you'll be here, but sorry about the car. Never fun speinding money 
on practical stuff. Bleagh!
Toreen

If you don't believe in angels, you've never heard me sing. If you don't 
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From: Steveburton612@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS:play.com/play usa.com
Date: 01 Sep 2004 12:42:45 EDT


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I;m not sure what hollywood has to do with it but I wouldn't be surprised. 
I'm not sure I understand it all either, even though you explained it. I guess 
I'm just not that swift on the uptake. 

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From: Kathryn Andersen <kat_lists@katspace.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS:play.com/play usa.com
Date: 02 Sep 2004 07:46:03 +1000

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 03:48:29PM +0000, kytriyal@comcast.net wrote:
> I am sorry that we are unable to supply region 2 items for you.
> Obviously this is a law which we are unable to alter. However strange
> it may be.
Law?  Law?  Region coding isn't a law!  In fact, it's a violation of
Australian and New Zealand law, at any rate (the Trade Practices Act --
region-coding is a price-fixing monopoly collusion).

If they're referring to the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, or its
equivalents, that would only forbid them selling you a multi-region DVD
player... it still wouldn't forbid them from selling you region 2 DVDs.

Unfortunately, cases like Dimitri Sklyarov
(http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Dmitri%20Sklyarov)
make people afraid of being arrested for asserting their rights.
(Yep, Russia is freer than the US, ain't that an irony?)

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From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 10:24:05 +0100

Hello folks!
You don't know a relief it is to be able to send this mail to you. I have 
had 24 hours of complete frustration when windows decided to update itself 
and everything stopped working. I was beginning to think it was all this TK 
ability I've developed lately lol So apologies for not being in chat last 
night. I couldn't type so there was little point.

Okay, back to the reason for this post...

Yesterday I left my block of flats and stepped out onto the path immediately 
behind a youth who obviously thought he was very cool. I live in one of four 
blocks and although it is a private path and drive people often use it to 
cut through to the main road.

Anyway, this young man was dressed as many teenagers do these days with 
baggy jeans undone at the waist and hanging down off his hips to show the 
designer name on his underwear... do you get the picture? He thought he 
looked cool and as I walked behind him he diverted from the path, cut across 
the grass, stepped though the bushes and climbed the low boundary wall. 'B 
cheek!' I thought.

The guy saved himself about three seconds and was now walking immediately in 
front of me. Staring at his back and baggy trousers a suddenly wicked 
thought came to mind. I stretched out my mind and willed his trousers to 
fall down as payback. Well they started to slip and I could see him holding 
the front of the legs in a vain attempt to keep them up, while remaining as 
cool looking as he could, of course.

We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging 
mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, slipping 
down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and he yanked 
them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep them up.

Satisfied, and thanking Liz for the idea (see three in three) I crossed the 
road and headed off to my allotment.

So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for 
following fashion? You decide...

I'll catch up with some of you in afternoon chat at 4.30 GMT

Jackie
--------
May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting

www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk 





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From: Steve B <hantsbear@hantsbear.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 11:00:16 +0100

ROFLMAO!  Now, if you feel up to it, would you mind concentrating on my 
bathroom wall, so that my bathroom tiles come off... I'm having a spot of 
bother!

Steve

><snip>
>
>The guy saved himself about three seconds and was now walking immediately 
>in front of me. Staring at his back and baggy trousers a suddenly wicked 
>thought came to mind. I stretched out my mind and willed his trousers to 
>fall down as payback. Well they started to slip and I could see him 
>holding the front of the legs in a vain attempt to keep them up, while 
>remaining as cool looking as he could, of course.
>
>We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging 
>mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, 
>slipping down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and 
>he yanked them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep 
>them up.
>
>Satisfied, and thanking Liz for the idea (see three in three) I crossed 
>the road and headed off to my allotment.
>
>So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for 
>following fashion? You decide...
>
>I'll catch up with some of you in afternoon chat at 4.30 GMT
>
>Jackie
>--------
>May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
>             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting
>
>www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk
>





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From: ian_veal@lineone.net
Subject: RE: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 11:06:33 +0100

Hi everyone!

RE: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK! (or not again, as my individual
case may be!)

YKYBWTMTPW see Uri Geller on The Dan & Dusty Show late one night this wee=
k...and
actually go and get a spoon and will it to bend as he does.

Of course his spoon bent as it nearly always does (and did when I saw him=

live and took part in one of his experiments on stage at The Mind, Body
& Soul Exhibition at Kempton Park a couple of years ago. You could even
see keys continue to physically bend belonging to people in the audience
as they held them in the air. Someone had a key bending near me which was=

a standard Chubb key!).

But despite having watched Uri Geller since 1973, him living no more than=

an hour and a half away from me, having been to Israel three times, havin=
g
his show ticket numbers 0001 and 0002, continuing to have an open mind...=
it
was the same result as ever: spoon remains good and straight for another
umpteen years of stirring my tea!

So I'm just jaunting off to Galleon Island for a swim and ponder that whe=
n
Uri first came on the European public scene in November 1973, it was seve=
n
months after the public was becoming used to the concepts of telepathy an=
d
PK with the arrival of our favourite TV programme!

See you later in-chat!


Ian.



>-- Original Message --
>From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
>To: <tpdis@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:24:05 +0100
>Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
>Reply-To: tpdis@lists.xmission.com
>
>
>Hello folks!
>You don't know a relief it is to be able to send this mail to you. I hav=
e
>
>had 24 hours of complete frustration when windows decided to update itse=
lf
>
>and everything stopped working. I was beginning to think it was all this=

>TK
>ability I've developed lately lol So apologies for not being in chat las=
t
>
>night. I couldn't type so there was little point.
>
>Okay, back to the reason for this post...
>
>Yesterday I left my block of flats and stepped out onto the path immedia=
tely
>
>behind a youth who obviously thought he was very cool. I live in one of
four
>
>blocks and although it is a private path and drive people often use it
to
>
>cut through to the main road.
>
>Anyway, this young man was dressed as many teenagers do these days with

>baggy jeans undone at the waist and hanging down off his hips to show th=
e
>
>designer name on his underwear... do you get the picture? He thought he

>looked cool and as I walked behind him he diverted from the path, cut ac=
ross
>
>the grass, stepped though the bushes and climbed the low boundary wall.
'B
>
>cheek!' I thought.
>
>The guy saved himself about three seconds and was now walking immediatel=
y
>in
>front of me. Staring at his back and baggy trousers a suddenly wicked
>thought came to mind. I stretched out my mind and willed his trousers to=

>
>fall down as payback. Well they started to slip and I could see him hold=
ing
>
>the front of the legs in a vain attempt to keep them up, while remaining=

>as
>cool looking as he could, of course.
>
>We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging

>mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, slip=
ping
>
>down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and he yan=
ked
>
>them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep them up.
>
>Satisfied, and thanking Liz for the idea (see three in three) I crossed
the
>
>road and headed off to my allotment.
>
>So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for

>following fashion? You decide...
>
>I'll catch up with some of you in afternoon chat at 4.30 GMT
>
>Jackie
>--------
>May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
>             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting
>
>www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk
>
>
>



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From: ian_veal@lineone.net
Subject: RE: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 13:20:16 +0100

ILSHTTRDML!

It sounds like you may have had an automatic Windows upgrade (e.g. Window=
s
XP Service Pack 2) install itself on your PC? Windows call it a 'service
pack', but the real world call it a 'major product relaunch'. TIM can you=

help Mr Gates please?

Now when you have sorted the bathroom tiles for Steve with your TK, can
you divert your special powers to my outstanding accounts, the urgent cus=
tomer
reports for work and the staff reviews I need to complete asap!

All this after a heavy 5 day week squeezed into 4 (due to the UK Bank Hol=
iday
last Monday) when what I would really like to do is have a beer in the ba=
ck
garden on this extremely hot and sunny Sunday afternoon!


Ian.

(Note to above abbreviation: "I laughed so hard, the tears ran down my le=
gs!"
Anon.)



>-- Original Message --
>From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
>To: <tpdis@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:24:05 +0100
>Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
>Reply-To: tpdis@lists.xmission.com
>
>
>Hello folks!
>You don't know a relief it is to be able to send this mail to you. I hav=
e
>
>had 24 hours of complete frustration when windows decided to update itse=
lf
>
>and everything stopped working. I was beginning to think it was all this=

>TK
>ability I've developed lately lol So apologies for not being in chat las=
t
>
>night. I couldn't type so there was little point.
>
>Okay, back to the reason for this post...
>
>Yesterday I left my block of flats and stepped out onto the path immedia=
tely
>
>behind a youth who obviously thought he was very cool. I live in one of
four
>
>blocks and although it is a private path and drive people often use it
to
>
>cut through to the main road.
>
>Anyway, this young man was dressed as many teenagers do these days with

>baggy jeans undone at the waist and hanging down off his hips to show th=
e
>
>designer name on his underwear... do you get the picture? He thought he

>looked cool and as I walked behind him he diverted from the path, cut ac=
ross
>
>the grass, stepped though the bushes and climbed the low boundary wall.
'B
>
>cheek!' I thought.
>
>The guy saved himself about three seconds and was now walking immediatel=
y
>in
>front of me. Staring at his back and baggy trousers a suddenly wicked
>thought came to mind. I stretched out my mind and willed his trousers to=

>
>fall down as payback. Well they started to slip and I could see him hold=
ing
>
>the front of the legs in a vain attempt to keep them up, while remaining=

>as
>cool looking as he could, of course.
>
>We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging

>mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, slip=
ping
>
>down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and he yan=
ked
>
>them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep them up.
>
>Satisfied, and thanking Liz for the idea (see three in three) I crossed
the
>
>road and headed off to my allotment.
>
>So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for

>following fashion? You decide...
>
>I'll catch up with some of you in afternoon chat at 4.30 GMT
>
>Jackie
>--------
>May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
>             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting
>
>www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk
>
>
>



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From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: TPDIS: Sunday Chat
Date: 05 Sep 2004 16:33:43 +0100

Hi All,
Sunday chat is open for business lol

Join us on Mirc Sorcery.net in #Tomorrowpeople.

Jackie (who's still thinking of a topic)

--------
May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting

www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk




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From: Steveburton612@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 13:24:19 EDT


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That is a very funny story! Where do you live? In the states or UK? Or do 
they sag em everywhere these days? :)))

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From: Steveburton612@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 13:25:38 EDT


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In a message dated 9/5/04 6:07:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ian_veal@lineone.net writes:


> Uri first came on the European public scene in November 1973, it was seven
> months after the public was becoming used to the concepts of telepathy and
> PK with the arrival of our favourite TV programme!
> 
> 

Re you sure this is true? Uri became poplular before the TP? or was he 
popular in other media?  

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<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-=
LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Uri first came on the Europ=
ean public scene in November 1973, it was seven
<BR>months after the public was becoming used to the concepts of telepathy a=
nd
<BR>PK with the arrival of our favourite TV programme!
<BR>
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From: Jasmine Sadrieh <jmsadrieh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 10:31:35 -0700 (PDT)

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I think I already told part of this story, but there was one time I was setting up a PA system in my friend Erica's basement, and talking very animatedly about something, and I made a large gesture with one arm and a clock across the room fell off the wall.  Erica (who has never heard of the Tomorrow People, but is a firm believer in all things supernatural) said something like "you did that, didn't you?"  Certainly if the ability to break dishes just by looking at them, and have sofabeds collapse under you on a regular basis (and I swear I weigh less than 120lbs) makes you psychokinetic, then I am very gifted indeed.  However, I have locked myself out of my apartment too many times to believe that I have that ability in any useful sense...
 
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<DIV>I think I already told part of this story, but there was one time I was setting up a PA system in my friend Erica's&nbsp;basement, and talking very animatedly about something, and I made a large gesture with one arm and a clock across the room fell off the wall.&nbsp; Erica (who has never heard of the Tomorrow People, but is a firm believer in all things supernatural) said something like "you did that, didn't you?"&nbsp; Certainly if the ability to break dishes just by looking at them, and have sofabeds collapse under you on a regular basis (and I swear I weigh less than 120lbs) makes you psychokinetic, then I am very gifted indeed.&nbsp; However, I have locked myself out of my apartment too many times to believe that I have that ability in any useful sense...</DIV>
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From: Steveburton612@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 14:24:56 EDT


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well I still believe we ALL have the abilities locked inside our brains, the 
parts we don't use (some more than others?) and that a great deal of starnge 
things happen because of that but I also believe there are other supernatural 
forces that cause some of these things but not all. Of course the Scully in me 
believes that there are also logical reasonable explanatoins for some of these 
things. I do believe in heaven, a spiritual dimension, a higher being and 
beings, angels, even demons, ghosts, and prophetic dreams. My sister dreams of 
people before they die but doesn't talk about it much. Deja Vu might be a 
remembrance of a dream that was exactly what would happen or some time mess up 
maybe? Who knows? Books have been writtn about Montauk Project and the Experimental 
at Philadelphia talk about other strange things including time travel, 
telekinesis, teleportation, mosnters coming out of time tunnels, kidnapped people 
off the streets, kids and homeless to be sent back in time and forward in time 
to a apoclatpic future, and sending spies back to WW2 to Stop HItler. Added to 
that brainwashed assassins, and mind wipes of  operatives who wanted to get 
out (who later found they had a whole other office for their job that they were 
made to forget), and tons of others tuff and weirdnesss ensues. And I had a 
friend who went to the base that started alot of this and he found some hyper 
advanced technology and the place where the electrical monster destroyed a small 
house! Others saw the technology he took from the abandoned site and said 
they never saw anything like this advanced stuff. According to the book, the 
gov't project was clsoed down but reopened under either rouge operatives or govt 
order to weed out peeeps who didn't want to do underhanded things including 
kidnapping and murder. But more importantly this technology according ott the 
book was given to us by at least two alien races, one race have crashed on LI  

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From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 21:13:43 +0100

I'm in the UK. I live in South London and I drive past Teddington Studios on 
my way to work every day. All those years of dreaming about what it would be 
like to go there and now I work up the road lol. It is a very small world 
indeed.

In answer to your question, yes, teenagers do wear the same thing the world 
over. They just speak differently lol

Jackie


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> That is a very funny story! Where do you live? In the states or UK? Or do
> they sag em everywhere these days? :)))
> 





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From: Jeremy Rogers <jeremy.rogers@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 05 Sep 2004 22:23:33 +0100

Steveburton612@aol.com in message <7b.3304da10.2e6ca612@aol.com> wrote:

> In a message dated 9/5/04 6:07:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> ian_veal@lineone.net writes:


> > Uri first came on the European public scene in November 1973, it was seven
> > months after the public was becoming used to the concepts of telepathy and
> > PK with the arrival of our favourite TV programme!
> > 
> > 

> Re you sure this is true? Uri became poplular before the TP? or was he 
> popular in other media?  

His November 1973 appearance on David Dimbleby's Talk-In was I think on
his first 'tour' of Britain. A few months later he appeared on Blue
Peter, which would have been more of a time when children would have
seen him I guess. A picture appears at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/tv/bluepeter/lesleypetejohn/gallery/2bp07.shtml

A subsequent appearance had him along with several kids who claimed to
have similar powers.

Jez
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From: Steveburton612@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 06 Sep 2004 02:23:19 EDT


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that's on tv right? But wasn't URi Geller well known via the newspapers and 
books and radio before that???

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From: kytriyal@comcast.net
Subject: TPDIS: Comic from Kyt
Date: 06 Sep 2004 08:01:59 +0000

Go to this web site. There is a really good microsoft comic at this link. I think that if microsoft only had TIM, this comic wouldn't be so true. My sister gave me this web site. 

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040811&mode=classic
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but  the answer is a definent maybe I 
should of, could of... if only.

What one man ponders, the other man retorts. But a good response to both men as always is: "Pull the other one, Mate!" [Thanks Roger Price!]


> ILSHTTRDML!
> 
> It sounds like you may have had an automatic Windows upgrade (e.g. Windows
> XP Service Pack 2) install itself on your PC? Windows call it a 'service
> pack', but the real world call it a 'major product relaunch'. TIM can you
> help Mr Gates please?
> 
> Now when you have sorted the bathroom tiles for Steve with your TK, can
> you divert your special powers to my outstanding accounts, the urgent customer
> reports for work and the staff reviews I need to complete asap!
> 
> All this after a heavy 5 day week squeezed into 4 (due to the UK Bank Holiday
> last Monday) when what I would really like to do is have a beer in the back
> garden on this extremely hot and sunny Sunday afternoon!
> 
> 
> Ian.
> 
> (Note to above abbreviation: "I laughed so hard, the tears ran down my legs!"
> Anon.)
> 
> 
> 
> >-- Original Message --
> >From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
> >To: <tpdis@lists.xmission.com>
> >Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:24:05 +0100
> >Subject: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
> >Reply-To: tpdis@lists.xmission.com
> >
> >
> >Hello folks!
> >You don't know a relief it is to be able to send this mail to you. I have
> >
> >had 24 hours of complete frustration when windows decided to update itself
> >
> >and everything stopped working. I was beginning to think it was all this
> >TK
> >ability I've developed lately lol So apologies for not being in chat last
> >
> >night. I couldn't type so there was little point.
> >
> >Okay, back to the reason for this post...
> >
> >Yesterday I left my block of flats and stepped out onto the path immediately
> >
> >behind a youth who obviously thought he was very cool. I live in one of
> four
> >
> >blocks and although it is a private path and drive people often use it
> to
> >
> >cut through to the main road.
> >
> >Anyway, this young man was dressed as many teenagers do these days with
> 
> >baggy jeans undone at the waist and hanging down off his hips to show the
> >
> >designer name on his underwear... do you get the picture? He thought he
> 
> >looked cool and as I walked behind him he diverted from the path, cut across
> >
> >the grass, stepped though the bushes and climbed the low boundary wall.
> 'B
> >
> >cheek!' I thought.
> >
> >The guy saved himself about three seconds and was now walking immediately
> >in
> >front of me. Staring at his back and baggy trousers a suddenly wicked
> >thought came to mind. I stretched out my mind and willed his trousers to
> >
> >fall down as payback. Well they started to slip and I could see him holding
> >
> >the front of the legs in a vain attempt to keep them up, while remaining
> >as
> >cool looking as he could, of course.
> >
> >We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging
> 
> >mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, slipping
> >
> >down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and he yanked
> >
> >them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep them up.
> >
> >Satisfied, and thanking Liz for the idea (see three in three) I crossed
> the
> >
> >road and headed off to my allotment.
> >
> >So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for
> 
> >following fashion? You decide...
> >
> >I'll catch up with some of you in afternoon chat at 4.30 GMT
> >
> >Jackie
> >--------
> >May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled
> >             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting
> >
> >www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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From: kytriyal@comcast.net
Subject: RE: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 06 Sep 2004 08:14:00 +0000

[Jackie wrote:
> >We were on the main road by now, and I concentrated even harder tugging
> >mentally at his trousers... and guess what? They suddenly gave way, slipping
> >down and revealing a large portion of his backside! I laughed and he yanked
> >them up, having to actually do up the buttons and belt to keep them up.
>...>
> >So am I telekinetic?  Or was it fate that paid this young man back for 
> >following fashion? You decide...]

Actually, I do not think it was telekinetic. There is a person in a group I attend who has the same fashion "sense". His trousers constantly fall down. Men's bodies simply were not made for wearing pants in this fashion. They do not have enough hip bone to keep them up. The group leader is constantly telling him that he either has to start wearing a belt or somehow keep his pants up. So, he always hangs on to his pants when he gets up off the couch. Personally, I am tired of seeing his undies, and wish he'd either get a life or switch fashions. His choice. I say this with a sense of humor. I'm getting use to it and use to looking the other way. 

TPKyteroo jaunting off

To be or not to be may be the question, 
but  the answer is a definent maybe I 
should of, could of... if only.

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From: Peter Fagan <peter@theta-g.com>
Subject: TPDIS: Now and Then
Date: 06 Sep 2004 02:32:35 -0700

I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the end of the series tonight. I'm very 
pleased with the way it ended - I think I missed the final episode 
during the Nickelodeon run!

The commentaries wrapped up nicely too. The whole set left me on a high, 
so I made something to share. I hope you don't mind the liberties I took 
with this JPEG...

http://theta-g.com/tmp/groupshot.jpg

- PJF
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From: "John A. Merullo" <rockhopper@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 06 Sep 2004 06:57:48 -0500


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:31 PM


I think I already told part of this story, but there was one time I was
setting up a PA system in my friend Erica's basement, and talking very
animatedly about something, and I made a large gesture with one arm and a
clock across the room fell off the wall.  Erica (who has never heard of the
Tomorrow People, but is a firm believer in all things supernatural) said
something like "you did that, didn't you?"  Certainly if the ability to
break dishes just by looking at them, and have sofabeds collapse under you
on a regular basis (and I swear I weigh less than 120lbs) makes you
psychokinetic, then I am very gifted indeed.  However, I have locked myself
out of my apartment too many times to believe that I have that ability in
any useful sense...

-Jasmine
My best friend may well have some sort of telekinesis. I've seen him make a
candle flame "dance". Small objects sometimes seem to move when he's around
and once he "drew" with his finger in the condensation on a window--from the
outside! He also claims to have some telepathic ability and experiences OBEs
occasionally. He always says that everyone can do these things, they just
don't realise it. I introduced him to TP and we sometimes joke that he's
one.

 Like most people, I *have* experienced some psychic phenomena  myself on
occasion (usually precognition), but not nearly as frequently as my friend
has. Of course, maybe I just don't notice it as much.
Or maybe I'm really gullible.
John
Going back to bed. It's a holiday here in the US




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From: Jasmine Sadrieh <jmsadrieh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 06 Sep 2004 11:29:17 -0700 (PDT)

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The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali "Portion on Accomplishments" (I think it's called) talks about how the advanced yogi can do things like read minds and teleport and turn invisible (or "cloak" as PVC geekily put it :-)  Of course this is not supposed to be the goal of yoga practice.  Actually, I don't think that there's supposed to be a goal.  Or else the goal is enlightenment.  I'm not really sure.  That's why I'm not a Yogiraj.  I can stand on my head for a long time, though...
 
-Jasmine

"John A. Merullo" <rockhopper@ev1.net> wrote:

My best friend may well have some sort of telekinesis. I've seen him make a
candle flame "dance". Small objects sometimes seem to move when he's around
and once he "drew" with his finger in the condensation on a window--from the
outside! He also claims to have some telepathic ability and experiences OBEs
occasionally. He always says that everyone can do these things, they just
don't realise it. I introduced him to TP and we sometimes joke that he's
one.



		
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<DIV>The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali&nbsp;"Portion on Accomplishments" (I think it's called) talks about how the advanced yogi can do things like&nbsp;read minds and teleport&nbsp;and turn invisible (or "cloak" as PVC geekily put it :-)&nbsp; Of course this is not supposed to be the goal of yoga practice.&nbsp; Actually, I don't think that there's supposed to be a goal.&nbsp; Or else the goal is enlightenment.&nbsp; I'm not really sure.&nbsp; That's why I'm not a Yogiraj.&nbsp; I can stand on my head for a long time, though...</DIV>
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<DIV>-Jasmine<BR><BR><B><I>"John A. Merullo" &lt;rockhopper@ev1.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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From: ToreenLyn@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: YKYBWTMTPW... you develop TK!
Date: 06 Sep 2004 19:37:13 EDT


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Steve, 
        I have been to Camp Hero. It is eerily quiet, no birdsong or mosquito 
buzz like the rest of Montauk. If your out to LI anytime in the summer, I'll 
take you there. SOMETHING, other than the sub pens, is definitely there.
Toreen

If you don't believe in angels, you've never heard me sing. If you don't 
believe in demons, you've never pissed me off!

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From: Peter Fagan <peter@theta-g.com>
Subject: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 01:46:13 -0700

I've been given permission to post the addition of a very happy fan to 
the pic I posted testerday :-)

http://theta-g.com/tmp/groupshot_also.jpg

- PJF
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Subject: TPDIS: OT - Kinda  - kinda not - think "Worlds Away"
Date: 07 Sep 2004 09:19:14 EDT


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French Egyptologists Defend Pyramid Theory
By PAUL GARWOOD,   AP

CAIRO, Egypt (Sept. 4) - A pair of French Egyptologists who   suspect they 
have found a previously unknown chamber in the Great Pyramid  urged  Egypt's 
antiquities chief to reconsider letting them test their  theory by drilling new 
holes in the 4,600-year-old structure. 
Jean Yves Verd'hurt and fellow Frenchman Gilles Dormion,  who has  studied 
pyramid construction for more than 20 years, are expected to  raise  their views 
during the ninth International Congress of Egyptologists in   Grenoble, 
France, which starts Monday. They also published a book about  their  theory this 
week. 
Standing in their way is Zahi Hawass, the  director of  Egypt's Supreme 
Council of Antiquities, who heatedly rejected  the theories  during a Cairo press 
conference this week.  "There are  300 theories concerning hidden rooms and 
other  things inside the pyramid,  but if I let them all test their theories they 
will  do untold  damage to the pyramid, which was built with the blood of 
Egyptians,"   said Hawass. "I will not let Egyptian blood be damaged by 
amateurs."  He  said earlier requests from the same pair were turned  down in 1999  and 
2003. In their book, "The Room of Cheops," Dormion and Verd'hurt   write that 
1988 study of an area below the queen's burial chamber in the  pyramid  found 
what  appeared to be an 11 1/2-foot "structure,"  according to the French  
magazine  Science and Future. 
"The study  of this part of the pyramid was always neglected  because there 
had been a  grill to block access," they wrote. "While we were  working on 
ventilation  in 1988, we were able to penetrate into the depths and  study briefly 
but  not enough to state anything essential." 
Verd'hurt laughed off Hawass'  "amateur" tag, citing  previous close 
relationships with Egyptian  antiquities officials and work that  he and Dormion had 
conducted in 1998  on the Meidum pyramid south of Cairo, which  dates back more 
than 4,500  years to the 4th pharaonic dynasty. The work at Medium, according 
to Verd'hurt,  led to the  discovery of two rooms and two passages that had 
been  previously "undisturbed  and unknown." They want to do similar work at 
the  Great Pyramid, built by Khufu,  a ruler also known as Cheops. "To be sure  
of this process, we wanted to verify the result  of our architectural works  
using a radar that confirmed the location of a  passage and a system of  
closures. So I think that now we should at least take  these results into  account 
in order to go further in our work." 
Verd'hurt said Egyptian  opposition to his theory is a  "shame." They are 
expected to raise the  issue again with Hawass in Grenoble, but  the Egyptian 
antiquities official  said he will not speak to them. 
Verd'hurt said he was disappointed by  Hawass' refusal. 
"It's true that Cheops arouses and attracts passions  but,  with regard to 
history, it's really too bad," he said. "I think it's  too bad  that he doesn't 
sit down with us to let us explain ourselves." 

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From: kytriyal@comcast.net
Subject: Re: TPDIS: OT - Kinda  - kinda not - think "Worlds Away"
Date: 07 Sep 2004 13:35:06 +0000


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Funny, isn't it? I sometimes wonder how accurate Roger Price thought he would be on future things not known that is so concrete and easily discovered to be true or false given the right authority and time? Maybe, the kultans really did build the pyramid and hid the secret chamber. LOL And the chamber is exactly like it was in "Worlds Away". LOL

--
TPKyteroo jaunting off

To be or not to be may be the question, 
but  the answer is a definent maybe I 
should of, could of... if only.

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French Egyptologists Defend Pyramid Theory
By PAUL GARWOOD,   AP

CAIRO, Egypt (Sept. 4) - A pair of French Egyptologists who   suspect they 
have found a previously unknown chamber in the Great Pyramid  urged  Egypt's 
antiquities chief to reconsider letting them test their  theory by drilling new 
holes in the 4,600-year-old structure. 
Jean Yves Verd'hurt and fellow Frenchman Gilles Dormion,  who has  studied 
pyramid construction for more than 20 years, are expected to  raise  their views 
during the ninth International Congress of Egyptologists in   Grenoble, 
France, which starts Monday. They also published a book about  their  theory this 
week. 
Standing in their way is Zahi Hawass, the  director of  Egypt's Supreme 
Council of Antiquities, who heatedly rejected  the theories  during a Cairo press 
conference this week.  "There are  300 theories concerning hidden rooms and 
other  things inside the pyramid,  but if I let them all test their theories they 
will  do untold  damage to the pyramid, which was built with the blood of 
Egyptians,"   said Hawass. "I will not let Egyptian blood be damaged by 
amateurs."  He  said earlier requests from the same pair were turned  down in 1999  and 
2003. In their book, "The Room of Cheops," Dormion and Verd'hurt   write that 
1988 study of an area below the queen's burial chamber in the  pyramid  found 
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From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: TPDIS: The New TIM
Date: 07 Sep 2004 19:09:04 +0100

I recently asked Nick Young what it was like to work with the new TIM, and 
here's his response.

' I thought the replacement for TIM was excellent. He deliberately did NOT
listen to Phil's voice beforehand but the end result was spot on. The voice
could certainly be TIM after a computer breakdown. My theory is that John
improved the computer whilst repairing it and sped everything up which
resulted in a slightly faster response from TIM hence the slightly quicker
vocal delivery....!'

Now, I can't wait to here Trevor Little in 'The Warlock's Dance'


Jackie
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             Traditional Manyarnern Greeting

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From: "Jackie Clark" <Jackie@effdee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 19:13:49 +0100

Thanks for the work on this, Peter. The cast like it too.

Nick said: It looks like a sci-fi plot where aliens use a ray-gun to make 
the TP age
 horribly in one episode (but somehow John miraculously escapes (!)).

Nigel said:  'Very cool!! Hope you're well Darlin'! XXX'

I'll let you know the rest of the responses when I receive them. I only hope 
people are interested LOL

Jackie



> I've been given permission to post the addition of a very happy fan to the 
> pic I posted testerday :-)
>
> http://theta-g.com/tmp/groupshot_also.jpg
>
> - PJF
> ________________________________________
> Peter Fagan
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>
>
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From: "Jawzi" <mail@adjawzi.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: TPDIS: Alone - review, with spoliers.
Date: 07 Sep 2004 21:16:00 +0100

I've finally got round to writing up this review, which I started  a while
ago.

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I enjoyed this story. It's an intelligent, thought-provoking and complex
drama, melancholy in tone but ultimately satisfying, with excellent acting
from everyone involved. Several threads of narrative are woven together from
the outset and not all are real, something that's not apparent for quite a
while. Only near the start of episode three does the narrative come full
circle, when John and Paul's dreams go back to the beginning. In fact there
is a continual blurring of reality and illusion throughout the story. As
Doctor Cooper tells John: "The line between fantasy and reality isn't always
easy to distinguish." Ironically, Doctor Cooper doesn't exist!

Interestingly, the dreams experienced by those hooked up to the dream
machine, with their motifs of pursuit, loss, abandonment and isolation, are
reflections of the alien's sense of being trapped and Robert's disturbed
state of mind.

Paul dreams of having to hide in caves - a reference to the alien in his
suspended animation underground - and of being hunted down, then forced to
take part in gladiatorial combat, undoubtedly a metaphor for Robert's inner
demons. There is even an allusion to a beacon having been destroyed, just as
the alien's homing beacon was switched off by Robert.

Therese dreams of her dead son, which parallels Robert's bereavement, while
Elena dreams of her father. Perhaps her father is also dead.

John dreams of being alone, unable to contact the other TP, even as Robert
fears being left alone and friendless if the alien were to leave; similarly,
the alien is unable to contact his own kind.

On reflection, the reference to John's dead brother is probably not intended
to be taken literally. John's conversation with the psychiatrist is all part
of the dream sequence and so cannot be trusted. We do not know precisely
what hallucinations John experienced in the tunnel, as he only tells the
imaginary Doctor Cooper, and not Elena or Paul, what he saw there. This
technique, when used in a novel, is termed unreliable narration. In
addition, the brother supposedly died violently, an echo of the fate of
Robert's parents, while John's reaction when Doctor Cooper mentions his
brother mirrors Robert's anger when Therese refers to his parents.

I particularly liked the way the story encapsulates what it is to be a
Tomorrow Person, above all the way TP are inextricably connected to each
other, thus how dreadful it would be to lose their powers and to be utterly
alone, unable to make contact. John chillingly conveys the full horror of
this isolation in his dream, even though later he is characteristically
unable to confide his experience to the others.

Mental illness is a lonely and isolating condition. Those who suffer from it
do not fit in and others are unwilling to mix with them. To equate mental
disorder with being a Tomorrow Person is an intriguing analogy and begs the
question what exactly is normality. TP powers bind them together, yet
paradoxically set them apart from the 'norm,' i.e. Saps. "Why do they do
this?" asks Paul, when facing death at the hands of savages. "Because we're
different," replies Thragg.

Robert is treated sympathetically by the TP, despite having apparently used
psychic energy to hurt them. Eventually he's sent to the Trig for therapy,
which is reminiscent of what happened to Stephen in "The Deadliest Species,"
although his name and paintings of alien landscapes seem to link him to the
Robert in "The Blue and the Green." This may be a reference to the original
Robert's metamorphosis, the equivalent of a TP breaking out.

What is the significance of the folly, surely a strange choice of dwelling
for anyone? It can be seen as symbolic both of Therese's occupation and
temperament. The folly stands on a hill, suggesting solitude and watching
over events, as well as an association with the past. It looks like a
castle, which implies a sense of solidity and reality. Significantly, Elena
claims it feels safe. However, the word folly can mean insanity. Perhaps
Therese has sought refuge from the grief of losing her son by burying
herself in her work, dealing with the problems of her patients. And yet
ironically she is the only one who sees through the illusions wrought by the
dream machine. A mere Sap saves the day here. This is not, as she wryly
suggests, simply due to her cynicism. A more likely explanation is that she
has a greater self-understanding than the other characters and hence is more
willing to face the truth. She has already confronted her darkest fears and
so is indeed qualified to help others face theirs.

Doors being opened throughout the story appear to represent the release of
repression. In John's case his dream forces him to confront possibly his
deepest fear, that of being 'normal.'

It's interesting that Elena sees a vision of water in the tunnel, since
water signifies transformation or transition, in addition to being a link
between the known and unknown, reality and fantasy.

There are also allusions to folklore and superstition. Traditionally, elves
or fairies were often supposed to live within hillsides, ancient burial
mounds or subterranean caves. Their realm is literally one of illusion, set
apart from the human world. Once inside this place it is extremely difficult
for mortals to leave it. Anything is possible there and time itself becomes
meaningless. The alien in "Alone," trapped in his underground spaceship for
possibly untold aeons and drawing people to him through crevices, is
identified with these supernatural beings. His world is one of illusion and
hallucination, as well as being timeless. Paul has lost track of time in his
dream and is unable to recall how long he has been with Thragg.

Some questions remain unanswered. Has Elena visited the alien's planet? How
else would she know that the colours of Robert's paintings are wrong? How do
the TP, Therese and Andrew become hooked up to the dream machine? Why are
the stones in a circle and how did they get there? Were they somehow
attracted to the spaceship? How could the alien communicate telepathically
when he was in suspended animation? Confusingly, we're told he doesn't even
have a corporeal form. Moreover, as others have noted, it's strange that
John can hear Robert's voice, but not the alien's, given that he's heard
mysterious voices in two earlier audio dramas.

On consideration, it seems implausible that TIM is knocked out so easily,
apparently from an overload caused by Robert's telepathic scream, but I
suppose it's acceptable within the context of the story. What are the
'complications' regarding TIM, referred to by John? Is this allusion
intended to prepare us for the 'new' TIM's voice? John also speaks of other
computers in the Lab, which must surely be the first time they've been
mentioned.

These are minor quibbles, however. On the whole "Alone" is an impressive
offering from Nigel Fairs, which encourages one to hope that in his hands
the TP audios will go from strength to strength. Fairs clearly understands
and respects the series. In particular, he has cleverly turned the concept
of a Tomorrow Person never being alone on its head.


Anyta.








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From: Kathryn Andersen <kat_lists@katspace.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 08 Sep 2004 07:28:00 +1000

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:13:49PM +0100, Jackie Clark wrote:
> Thanks for the work on this, Peter. The cast like it too.
> 
> Nick said: It looks like a sci-fi plot where aliens use a ray-gun to make 
> the TP age
> horribly in one episode (but somehow John miraculously escapes (!)).

LOL!

Well, he *is* the only one of the four who is still recognisable!
Obviously it affected John less because he was the oldest, that's it!

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From: ToreenLyn@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 17:21:21 EDT


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In a message dated 9/7/2004 5:13:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
kat_lists@katspace.com writes:
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:13:49PM +0100, Jackie Clark wrote:
> Thanks for the work on this, Peter. The cast like it too.
> 
> Nick said: It looks like a sci-fi plot where aliens use a ray-gun to make 
> the TP age
> horribly in one episode (but somehow John miraculously escapes (!)).

LOL!

Well, he *is* the only one of the four who is still recognisable!
Obviously it affected John less because he was the oldest, that's it!
Actually, It just means he's one of the rare few of us blessed with the 
ability to refuse to age.
Toreen

If you don't believe in angels, you've never heard me sing. If you don't 
believe in demons, you've never pissed me off!

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From: "Larc" <larc@chronasoft.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 19:34:43 -0400

People ARE interested (at least I am)!!!!!
Larc

----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:13 PM


> Thanks for the work on this, Peter. The cast like it too.
>
> Nick said: It looks like a sci-fi plot where aliens use a ray-gun to make
> the TP age
>  horribly in one episode (but somehow John miraculously escapes (!)).
>
> Nigel said:  'Very cool!! Hope you're well Darlin'! XXX'
>
> I'll let you know the rest of the responses when I receive them. I only
hope
> people are interested LOL
>
> Jackie
>
>
>
> > I've been given permission to post the addition of a very happy fan to
the
> > pic I posted testerday :-)
> >
> > http://theta-g.com/tmp/groupshot_also.jpg
> >
> > - PJF
> > ________________________________________
> > Peter Fagan
> > +1-415-931-2680 | +1-415-846-6099 mobile
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>





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Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 19:36:11 EDT


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In a message dated 9/7/2004 7:35:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
larc@chronasoft.com writes:
People ARE interested (at least I am)!!!!!
Larc
Forget merely interested... We're dying to hear it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toreen

If you don't believe in angels, you've never heard me sing. If you don't 
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20=
2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>People ARE interested (at least I am)!!!!!<BR>=
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NT></EM></STRONG></DIV></DIV>
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From: kytriyal@comcast.net
Subject: TPDIS: TP: Joy report on dvd's/audio
Date: 08 Sep 2004 00:09:02 +0000

The dvd's came! I am so happy!  I finally got the last 2 box sets. I also got the audio cd's #1 - 8. #10 - 12 should be  here soon.  So far, I have started listening to "deadliest species" and watched most of the commentary to "The Sogguth". I don't have that title quite right. The title is upstairs and I am downstairs. I plan to watch the dvd's from "One Law" with Mickbeamer on Thursday evening. I'm trying to wait to watch the story line until then. Yes, it is definately worth the wait. I go to the health club tomorrow evening to try and get in better shape then Nick and PVC looked in the show. If I pull it off (getting in very good shape), I might be able to convince my brother to take me to the boundary waters canoe area. It will be a good relaxing place to write another story. 

I've so far, have decided not to enter a story this year. My creative juices are not flowing currently. I have too much going on. Next year!

I love the picture! I am interested in any other comments on the picture too! (I'm posting this with this email so that those with small email space don't get overloaded.)
TPKyteroo jaunting off

To be or not to be may be the question, 
but  the answer is a definent maybe I 
should of, could of... if only.

What one man ponders, the other man retorts. But a good response to both men as always is: "Pull the other one, Mate!" [Thanks Roger Price!]





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From: Jasmine Sadrieh <jmsadrieh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TPDIS: OT - Kinda  - kinda not - think "Worlds Away"
Date: 07 Sep 2004 17:37:11 -0700 (PDT)

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For those of you in the U.S. who have the National Geographic Channel (and it's a channel I had never heard of, but it turns out I have it.  Fascinating.) , they are showing a documentary several times this week called "Into the Great Pyramid".  The program description: "An investigation into one of the Great Pyramids reveals a hidden shaft that has been blocked for hundreds of years."  It's on tonight @9 and midnight, Saturday @1PM and next Tues @4PM.  If anyone is interested.
 
-Jasmine 

Dark4eyes@aol.com wrote:
French Egyptologists Defend Pyramid Theory
By PAUL GARWOOD,  AP

CAIRO, Egypt (Sept. 4) - A pair of French Egyptologists who  suspect they have found a previously unknown chamber in the Great Pyramid urged  Egypt's antiquities chief to reconsider letting them test their theory by drilling new holes in the 4,600-year-old structure. 

		
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<DIV>For those of you in the U.S. who have the National Geographic Channel (and it's a channel I had never heard of, but it turns out I have it.&nbsp; Fascinating.)&nbsp;, they&nbsp;are showing a documentary several times this week called "Into the Great Pyramid".&nbsp; The program description: "An investigation into one of the Great Pyramids reveals a hidden shaft that has&nbsp;been blocked for hundreds of years."&nbsp; It's on tonight @9 and midnight, Saturday @1PM and next Tues @4PM.&nbsp; If anyone is interested.</DIV>
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From: Dark4eyes@aol.com
Subject: Re: TPDIS: Now and Then II
Date: 07 Sep 2004 22:33:50 EDT


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In a message dated 9/7/2004 4:13:15 PM Central Standard Time,  
kat_lists@katspace.com writes:

On Tue,  Sep 07, 2004 at 07:13:49PM +0100, Jackie Clark wrote:
> Thanks for the  work on this, Peter. The cast like it too.
> 
> Nick said: It  looks like a sci-fi plot where aliens use a ray-gun to make 
> the TP  age
> horribly in one episode (but somehow John miraculously escapes  (!)).



Friend of mine asked if Mike was Donny Osmond
 
Later 
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