From: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com (utah-firearms-digest) To: utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utah-firearms-digest V2 #187 Reply-To: utah-firearms-digest Sender: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utah-firearms-digest Wednesday, April 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 187 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:38:39 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Heston sees gun fight as part of a larger PC 'cultural war' http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200033023357.htm March 30, 2000 Heston sees gun fight as part of a larger PC 'cultural war' By Robert Stacy McCain THE WASHINGTON TIMES Defending the right of Americans to own guns is not "just about guns," but rather is part of a "cultural war" against political correctness, actor Charlton Heston said last night. "What I confronted when I became president of the [National Rifle Association] is an overwhelming Orwellian tyranny sweeping this country, a fanatic fervor of politically correct thought and language," Mr. Heston said in a speech at Georgetown University. The 75-year-old actor, who portrayed Moses in "The Ten Commandments," said that when he accepted the presidency of the NRA, he "went straight from Moses to the devil . . . from celluloid saint to cultural sinner" according to his critics. "Get involved with a politically unpopular cause and you'll quickly find out who your friends are," Mr. Heston told the audience of more than 700 students who packed Georgetown's Gaston Hall. "At first I thought the issue was just about guns," he said, adding that he has since learned "that the gun debate is a lot more complicated." Having been struck by "the bombshells of the cultural war," Mr. Heston compared that conflict to the War Between the States: "Today the battle is for your hearts and minds, for the freedom to think the way you choose to think, to follow that moral compass that points to what's right." Mr. Heston said his position as NRA president is based on firm principle. "I believe very strongly in the Bill of Rights," he said, "and the Second Amendment provision to keep and bear arms is one of those rights. . . . Should law-abiding citizens be able to own them, or should a Big Brother government say no? Seems simple enough, right?" Those who disagree with Mr. Heston were out in force yesterday at Georgetown, as three Democratic lawmakers — Illinois Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, and Connecticut Rep. Rosa DeLauro — spoke to an anti-gun rally sponsored by the university's Campus Alliance to End Gun Violence. The alliance also sponsored a panel discussion on guns yesterday. Eight television crews were on hand last night for Mr. Heston's speech, which was sponsored by the university's Lecture Fund. Taking questions from students after his speech, Mr. Heston said he thought Republican candidate George W. Bush "would be a good president" who would support the NRA's position on guns. Emphasizing the importance of this year's election, Mr. Heston urged students, "Whoever you vote for, for God's sake vote." One student prefaced a question by citing a statement by President Clinton at a news conference yesterday, prompting Mr. Heston to reply: "I must say, I feel more comfortable with the opinions of the Founding Fathers." In his speech, Mr. Heston urged Georgetown students to reject political correctness, "a cultural cancer that is eating away at our society." "Don't let America's universities serve as incubators for a rampant epidemic of this new brand of McCarthyism," he said. College students "now appear to be the most socially conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord Bridge," he said, referring to the 1775 battle that opened the American Revolution. If the Founding Fathers had been "enamored with political correctness," he said, "we'd still be King George's boys." All site contents copyright © 2000 News World Communications, Inc. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson - ----- Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500 From: Gun Owners of America To: goamail@gunowners.org Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must hear from you! Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W products. To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell. But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead. This Battle Is Definitely Winnable Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure, and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still there to this day. This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation. But it can be done! URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative. This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep. right away! You can use the text below to fax, email or call your Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free). - ----------- Pre-written message ------------ Dear Representative: Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by anyone who does business with the company. I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter and support his efforts 100 percent! The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think, people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29 percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a "supporter of stronger gun controls." The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop this back-door attempt at gun control. I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you. Sincerely, __________________ ************** Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online store. ************** Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed. _______________________________________________ Liberty-and-Justice mailing list Liberty-and-Justice@mailbox.by.net http://mailbox.by.net/mailman/listinfo/liberty-and-justice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson - ----- Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500 From: Gun Owners of America To: goamail@gunowners.org Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must hear from you! Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W products. To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell. But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead. This Battle Is Definitely Winnable Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure, and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still there to this day. This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation. But it can be done! URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative. This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep. right away! You can use the text below to fax, email or call your Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free). - ----------- Pre-written message ------------ Dear Representative: Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by anyone who does business with the company. I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter and support his efforts 100 percent! The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think, people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29 percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a "supporter of stronger gun controls." The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop this back-door attempt at gun control. I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you. Sincerely, __________________ ************** Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online store. ************** Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed. _______________________________________________ Liberty-and-Justice mailing list Liberty-and-Justice@mailbox.by.net http://mailbox.by.net/mailman/listinfo/liberty-and-justice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson - ----- Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500 From: Gun Owners of America To: goamail@gunowners.org Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must hear from you! Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W products. To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell. But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead. This Battle Is Definitely Winnable Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure, and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still there to this day. This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation. But it can be done! URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative. This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep. right away! You can use the text below to fax, email or call your Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free). - ----------- Pre-written message ------------ Dear Representative: Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by anyone who does business with the company. I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter and support his efforts 100 percent! The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think, people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29 percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a "supporter of stronger gun controls." The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop this back-door attempt at gun control. I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you. Sincerely, __________________ ************** Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online store. ************** Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed. _______________________________________________ Liberty-and-Justice mailing list Liberty-and-Justice@mailbox.by.net http://mailbox.by.net/mailman/listinfo/liberty-and-justice - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: FW: What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity? - ----- Subject: What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:25:18 EST From: Opsgreen@aol.com What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity? When did the news media decide it was time to start making the news instead of reporting it? The other night I was watching "NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw". The news started out with the usual happenings of the day...a story about Elain Gonzalez..a story about trying to balance work and family..and a few other news items. Following these stories was the featured story of the night, the "in depth" report. The in depth report was titled: "Crusader Plans Million Mom March". It then went on to tell the story of Donna Dees Thomasses and her "crusade" against "the gun lobby". The story touted the actions of this New Jersey suburbs mother of two daughters and what she is doing to toughen gun laws. The story was one of the longest of the night, and was placed at the end of the broadcast in a position of importance. So what's the problem? One-sided reporting. Not once in this "in depth" report was anyone allowed to say anything positive about guns or gun owners, and the story was full of a number of subtle and not so subtle put downs of those who disagree with the positions of this woman. Let me mention just a few lines from the story as it was later published on NBC's web site. The story started out with a recently release study by the American Journal of Public Health. And I quote, "..of the households with a least one firearm and children under age 18 living in the home, 43 percent keep a gun without a trigger lock in an unlocked place. And more than 9 percent said they keep their guns unlocked and loaded despite the presence of children." In response to this figures, let me quote Mark Twain, "there are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics". The "American Journal of Public Health". It sounds scientific and scholarly, and in that subtle deception lies the problem. The way NBC presented these numbers-- without telling its audience how these statistics were actually obtained, or if the population who was most likely simply surveyed was big enough to represent a large enough sample size to even be relevant--it seemed as if an evil was occurring in "43 percent" of homes where guns were present. Homes without gun locks. The horror! If these numbers are actually true (which is doubtful), most of these "gun lock free" homes probably represent homes in which parents still teach their children the proper respect for firearms. I grew up in a home where a gun was kept "without a trigger lock in an unlocked place" and the bullets were always around. Did we ever have a problem? Of course not. Because my father actually taught me and my brothers and sisters a thing or two. When I ask anti-gun zealots what the difference is between the home I grew up in and homes where gun accidents have occurred, I usually receive nothing but a blank stare on a face that is starting to turn red with anger or frustration. But did NBC bother to mention the responsible gun owners who fall under the blanket of their statistics? No, they'd rather have you believe that their numbers and the implied anti-gun connotation are simply true, and only a fool would question information that is "scientific". I could go on and on about how supposedly reputable journals, like the "American Journal of Public Health" are actually in the policy making business as opposed to being worried about truth and science, but instead let me focus on a more important point. NBC never countered these numbers with any pro-gun/pro-second Amendment numbers at all. Let's look at a few more lines from the story. "No one ever turns out for rallies about gun control -- that's what I was told," Dees-Thomasses said. Undaunted, she decided to do the march herself even though she admitted the biggest thing she'd ever organized was a carpool. "It is moms in every town across America working, putting up flyers in coffee shops and beauty salons," said Dees-Thomasses. "You know you get a group of women and look what they can do. A small group of women, they can really change the world." Good job Donna Thomasses. A small group of women can really change the world. But does NBC news talk about that change? No. Because everyone already knows what they think. It is for the better. Fortunately, not all Americans, myself being one of them, think that having a woman crusader hell-bent on weakening the Second Amendment is a good thing. NBC's story goes on to quote this woman saying things like, "Yes, that's her [referring to her adorable little daughter] slogan. ‘Flowers are good and guns are bad." And the anti-gun crowds recent favorite argument, "There's no reason why you can't treat a handgun like you do an automobile. That as a handgun owner, that you should get a license." NBC even features a "Republican" Dana Quist saying, "We don't want to have to bury anymore children. We bury twelve children a day [another false liberal "statistic"]! That's obscene, that's ridiculous!" Actually, what is obscene and ridiculous is NBC one-sided story and the markedly untrue and misleading information they pump out on a nightly basis. So where is the rest of the story, you might ask? That's it! Not one part of the story represented or even attempted to represent the pro-Second Amendment side of the issue. NBC even had the audacity to end their story with the line: "Now this suburban mom says her mission won't end with the march, not until the mothers of America face down the gun lobby and win." As if every American mother now supports the destruction of the Second Amendment and the only supporters of those evil guns are "the gun lobby" and not millions of citizens who still believe in the ideals of the founding fathers. And the problem is with more than NBC. According to a recent report by the Media Research Center, between July 1st 1997 and June 30th 1999, stories advocating more gun-control that ran on ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC outnumbered stories opposing more gun-control 357 to 36. Every American should be asking him or herself a question: If a position is true and right, does that position require one-sided reporting so biased as to be approaching propaganda in order to sway people in that positions direction? The "hard sell" is only required when a customer has no desire to buy the goods. And such is the approach of the gun-control sell being thrown onto the American public. All this brings me to a few final questions: What happened to the journalists of the 40s and 50s, back when reporters were supposed to be objective? What ever happened to real reporters? Has the once honorable title of "journalist" been replaced by a title the news networks dare not speak? That of manipulating propagandist? Actually, I think there are still a lot of real reporters out there; many reporting for small, local newspapers and many are on the net; they just can't get jobs with major or even minor networks anymore, because as the Media Research Group says, "the mainstream media has already chosen sides on the gun issue." Unfortunately, when it comes to old-fashioned journalistic principles like truth and fairness, these so called "reporters" have chosen the other side. Christopher Cook Constitutional American. Still free and at large. Here's a link to check out...a group that is actively fighting the lies and misinformation. Click here: WELCOME TYRANNY RESPONSE TEAM - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:58:50 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: FW: Letter to Sen. Hatch - ----- Subject: gun legislation Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:39:01 MST From: "Ron Christiansen" To: senator-hatch@hatch.senate.com CC: senator_hatch@hatch.senate.gov, senator@bennett.senate.gov, greg@votehawkins.com Senator Hatch: It grieves me to have to write you to express my disdain over your support of gun control. I helped send you to Washington because you originally represented my principles. As I continued to support you in your re-elections, you have drifted continually to the right. Specifically, I noticed in 1993 you started to abandon the values that got you to the senate originally by voting for the Democrat "crime bill" that banned many semi auto firearms. This bill was introduced by Dianne Feinstein. The list goes on from there. In 1995 you introduced S.3 that would have been a slam on our 4th amendment protection. Fortunately, wiser minds prevailed and this bill failed. Do you recall sponsoring S.735 in 1995? How about in 1996 voting for the Lautenberg domestic gun ban? In the '97-'98 session you voted to seat Margaret Morrow on the federal bench. I was aware she was anti-gun and believe you knew this too. But you voted to seat her anyway. That leads to your assistance in seating Ruth Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer to the Supreme Court. In 1998 you introduced S. 10. Why do you suppose it was referred to as Hatch's Horror Bill? Fortunately again, wiser minds prevailed and time ran out. But you were not deterred, and this year brought S. 254 back to life. Sir: Can you explain to me how any of these bills would have stopped the tragedies that provided the political opportunity you and others seized in order to promote you careers. How does a trigger lock requirement or a ban on private sales at a gun show stop two evil students determined to take lives of other students. A young boy is a product of a broken home, left with a relative who resides at a "crack house". He takes a pistol from "home" to school and kills a little girl who is his 1st. grade classmate. The answer is to give the residents of the crack house trigger locks? Where was your voice when Bill Clinton should have been on the ropes during the impeachment hearings? He was not even tried on the crimes he should have been. It may have been expedient to try him on lesser charges and find him not guilty in order to keep Al Gore from being President and hence being an incumbent during this election time. In my eyes, it is not honorable. By the way, were you entertaining presidential prospects at that time? I notice now that election time is nearing, you are standing by the NRA instead of your liberal friends. Who are you really? If I may plagiarize part of an old saying-will the real Senator Hatch please stand up. Senator Hatch, I call on you to right the wrongs that you have caused law abiding firearm owners to suffer. I ask you to lay out a responsible agenda to reverse the years of "bad law" that are preemptive against law abiding citizens and unconstitutional in nature. I offer a few of suggestions for your consideration: A resolution honoring the 2nd Amendment and it's guarantee of an individual to keep and bear arms. Withdraw the gun control provisions in the Juvenile Justice Bill. A law against government suites against private companies based on improper use of their product to accomplish unlawful acts. How about eliminating about 21,900 gun control laws. Doesn't it make more sense to hold people responsible for the own actions, not for lawless actions of others? No more gun control. I am a state delegate from Box Elder County for the Republican party. On May 6, 2000, myself and some friends who are delegates also, will be voting for the republican senate candidate who will be on the Utah ballot in November. Will you take the time to respond to this letter and tell me and in turn others why you deserve our vote at the convention next month and our trust for the next 6 years? Sincerely, Douglas E. Christiansen - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:42:56 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: An Army of Gun Lies http://www.nationalreview.com/17apr00/kopel041700.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 08:24:58 -0600 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Wayne LaPierre radio show online (Sunday 8-10pm ET) - ----- Subject: Wayne LaPierre radio show online (Sunday 8-10pm ET) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 19:21:42 -0500 From: Bill Nalty To: "cas@pudge.listbox.com" Wayne LaPierre (Sunday 8-10pm ET) KNSS - 1240 AM - Wichita, KS Home: http://www.broadcast.com/radio/talk/KNSS Home: http://www.1240knss.com./schedule.htm Call-In: 1-800-634-3881 Home NRA: http://www.nra.org/ The regular URL will not work for LaPierre's Show (It's Blocked) Listen MediaPlayer: http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeasx.asp?id=5888 ***BUT*** If you use this "mms" file, you can hear the 2- hour broadcast. mms://206.190.42.99/knss Copy the above file, and place it into File/Open window of your MediaPlayer. Then Click the OK button to make connection. I just tested connection - Radio America's Gary Nolan is subbing for Wayne LaPierre tonight. You would know, I've been forgetting to post this for the past 3 weeks when Wayne was a hot news item. Bill - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:21:29 -0600 From: "Karl Pearson" Subject: It Gets Worse In Taxachussetts The Liars Are Winning! Big Brother Government can't win if the populace is armed. Just ask Germany. *** Mass. set to regulate guns BOSTON (AP) - Armed with a court ruling, the state Monday began enforcing the nation's first consumer protection regulation of handguns. "This is a huge victory," said John Rosenthal of Stop Handgun Violence, a leading proponent of gun-control measures in the state. The new rules would effectively ban "Saturday night specials," and require handguns sold in the state to include childproof locks, tamper-proof serial numbers and safety warnings. Enforcement of the rules begins immediately, the attorney general's office said. The new gun safety regulations would not only affect Massachusetts gun dealers, but also any gun manufacturers who want to do business in the state. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565393752-247 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:55:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Karl Pearson Subject: Maryland, land of the banal, insipid moron *** Md. takes gun law further ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) - The Maryland House sent the governor legislation that would make the state the first to require new handguns to be equipped with built-in locks, allowing no one but authorized users to fire them. The locks will be required by 2003 under the bill approved Monday night by the House. Until then, all guns sold will have to be equipped with external trigger locks, beginning in October. No other state has approved such a measure. Gov. Parris Glendening is eager to sign the bill, already approved by the Senate. "This bill will takes a giant step toward creating safer communities not just in Maryland but across the country," Glendening said. He predicted that within 18 months, six to 12 states will move forward on similar legislation. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565418941-38b - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:08:36 -0600 From: "Karl Pearson" Subject: Thought For The Day "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:25:26 -0600 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: ALERT: Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner! ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization April 4, 2000 ALERT: Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner! "Eeeeek! It's .............. a .............gunnnn!" "Norfolk Tower calling all flights. Be advised of the national emergency and standby for delays in your flight pattern. Delta Express Flight 2395 will be diverting to land at this airport because it is carrying a handgun." We can't make this story any funnier than it is. Delta Express Flight 2395 actually aborted its April 3 flight from New York to Florida and emergency landed in Virginia, because somebody found a loaded sidearm in the passenger cabin bathroom. Click on the AP story http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000403/aponline202745_000.htm Nobody was waving the firearm around. Nobody was threatening anyone with it. Nobody was even holding it. It was inert. Yet panic erupted. The plane had to be landed abruptly. The FBI was called in to search the plane. Why? Because the anti-self defense lobby has absolutely convinced so many Americans that firearms are dangerous in any condition and at all times. Loaded or unloaded. The very presence of a firearm strikes terror into the hearts of otherwise intelligent Americans -- all because the firearm fear-mongers have succeeded so well. A loaded firearm lying quietly on the sink poses no danger to anyone unless they pick it up and misuse it. In just a few seconds the sidearm on the plane could have been unloaded and rendered entirely and utterly 100% safe. But no. The "public health" propaganda, funded by the federal Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and others, has managed to make people think guns are immediately and always dangerous. The mere "presence" of guns is a public health menace, they say. Delta Express apparently believes that big lie. What if the airline crewmembers had been properly trained, and not terrified, about firearms? The flight would have proceeded without any delay necessary. Passengers would have suffered no danger, no inconvenience and no panic. Are the flight attendants incapable of unloading a revolver or semi-automatic sidearm? Are likewise the flight officers incapable of unloading a sidearm? If so, it is because they have been intentionally denied the proper training. The airline crews would not be alone. A whole generation of Americans has been systematically propagandized against having any interest or knowledge about firearms. Uneducated children became ignorant and fearful adults. What used to be common sense has disappeared. Grown men and women cower and shake when a gun is around. Would the flight crew have aborted the flight had a bow and arrow been found under a seat? Or a long knife? A single firearm, an inanimate object lying inertly without a person attached to it, was enough to terrify Delta into bringing down an airliner... and that story made national news on the AP Wire. Understand: this is a sign of the huge victory the victim disarmament lobby has won in the war of ideas. Need confirmation? Click on: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000330_xnjdo_sixth_grad.shtml Jon Dougherty's article there describes how a sixth-grade student was disciplined and sent to psychological counseling because he advocated rational self-defense and the Second Amendment. No joke - -- read it -- see the thought-police state in action. Then you'll see how morally bizarre this nation is becoming -- all the result of firearms fear-mongering. Will the enemy win the hearts and minds of all Americans? Folks, we have a mighty lot of work to do to save our national sanity and our individual liberty. Let's get moving! Click on http://www.jpfo.org and look at the many educational tools, the strategies to change the terms of the debate. Practically everything you need to use is available, much of it absolutely free on the website. Take action! Use just one of these tools or strategies, but do it now. When the firearms confiscation order arrives in your mailbox, it will be way too late. - - ------------------------------ End of utah-firearms-digest V2 #187 ***********************************