From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: [vb_academy] test Date: 22 May 2000 15:10:36 -0600 test - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: [vb_academy] test Date: 25 May 2000 11:04:48 -0600 test - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: [vb_academy] test Date: 26 May 2000 07:08:19 -0600 test - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: [vb_academy] Let's keep the Values Based Academy going... Date: 26 May 2000 07:09:42 -0600 Hello my fellow Values Based Academy participants! I had a great time at the Academy last week and felt it was very much worth my time to be there. I hope you also found value from being there... When Bill talked about us "self-coaching" each other, I was immediately excited by the opportunity the internet would provide for us to stay in contact and continue to coach each other. I have setup an email discussion group or email chat group just for us. For those who have participated in news-groups, this will be very similar except the medium will be email. Also, there is no cost for you to join -- it is free. I envision this as a free-wheeling back-and-forth discussion on Values Based Selling. At this point, Bill Bachrach has not endorsed this forum although I have notified him of my intent. If you want to join, you have to "subscribe" yourself (its free). To subscribe, follow these instructions: 1. Send an email to: majordomo@xmission.com 2. In the body of the email, write: subscribe vb_academy After you have subscribed, you can send a message, question, or comment to the group by emailing your message to: vb_academy@lists.xmission.com You will also receive every message sent by all other members of our group. You are free to respond to any messages, or just sit back and monitor the discussion. Best Regards, Jeff - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cameron Passmore Subject: [vb_academy] testing Date: 26 May 2000 15:50:26 -0400 Hi everyone, Just testing C - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "donna carter" Date: 26 May 2000 16:51:03 PDT Hi this is Donna T. Carter saying hello to all of you. I love this idea and look forward to hearing all your thoughts and ideas. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TCooke" Subject: [vb_academy] Re: Date: 26 May 2000 21:55:21 -0400 Hello Donna, WELCOME!! Tom Cooke/Michigan ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:51 PM > Hi this is Donna T. Carter saying hello to all of you. I love this idea and > look forward to hearing all your thoughts and ideas. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. > To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do > not use quotes in your message. > - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "donna carter" Subject: [vb_academy] musings Date: 27 May 2000 10:20:28 PDT Hi all, I am sitting here one eyed (just lost my contact) in the middle of phone clinic on the Saturday of Memorial weekend. After also sitting through a "class" all day yesterday, I am definitely motivated to leave my world behind to the world of values based selling. For now, I am stuck with my world. Do any of you have any ideas for a script using values based methodology for phone calls to a semi-warm lead? I usually send out a preapproach letter. Any ideas on the letter would be really appreciated too. It usually had a lot more words and a clever statement about telemarketers. I've decided that this is probably a distraction. Sample below. Can it really be as simple as this? Dear __________, Thank you for your inquiry regarding _____________. As a Financial Planner here at _____________, I’ve been asked to personally follow up with you. It sounds like you are a person who likes to make smart financial choices. I help people make smart financial choices to achieve their financial goals and thereby fulfill their values. I develop written strategies that help people align their financial choices with their goals. Let’s spend five minutes on the phone to determine if I can add value to your life. I will give you a call in the near future. If you have a preferred time and/or number where I can reach you, you can contact me at my office 425-637-8363 ext. 215. I look forward to speaking with you. Best regards, Looking forward to any thoughts and ideas that my vb academy buddies have. Donna T. Carter/Bellevue WA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TCooke" Subject: Re: [vb_academy] musings Date: 27 May 2000 22:37:54 -0400 Hello Donna, Check out Chapter 10--pgs.213-234. Bill lists his ideas of effective communication over the phone. Most of it you can use word for word. Some of it you can "tweek" to fit your need perfectly. Regards, Tom Cooke/Michigan ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:20 PM > Hi all, > I am sitting here one eyed (just lost my contact) in the middle of phone > clinic on the Saturday of Memorial weekend. After also sitting through a > "class" all day yesterday, I am definitely motivated to leave my world > behind to the world of values based selling. > > For now, I am stuck with my world. Do any of you have any ideas for a > script using values based methodology for phone calls to a semi-warm lead? > I usually send out a preapproach letter. Any ideas on the letter would be > really appreciated too. It usually had a lot more words and a clever > statement about telemarketers. I've decided that this is probably a > distraction. Sample below. Can it really be as simple as this? > > Dear __________, > > > Thank you for your inquiry regarding _____________. As a Financial Planner > here at _____________, I've been asked to personally follow up with you. > > It sounds like you are a person who likes to make smart financial choices. > I help people make smart financial choices to achieve their financial goals > and thereby fulfill their values. I develop written strategies that help > people align their financial choices with their goals. > > Let's spend five minutes on the phone to determine if I can add value to > your life. I will give you a call in the near future. If you have a > preferred time and/or number where I can reach you, you can contact me at my > office 425-637-8363 ext. 215. I look forward to speaking with you. > > > Best regards, > > > Looking forward to any thoughts and ideas that my vb academy buddies have. > > > Donna T. Carter/Bellevue WA > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. > To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do > not use quotes in your message. > - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lawsonh@nationwide.com Subject: Re: [vb_academy] musings Date: 28 May 2000 10:32:33 -0400 Woow ! is this a valuable resource and a great reminder !! So, glad I have the opportunity to be on this 'list'...VBS has really made a difference in my profession and in my personal life....Happy Holiday ! - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Schmidt, Bill" Date: 29 May 2000 14:27:55 -0500 Great idea Jeff, IM not sure if we met at the academy but I look forward to chatting with you and others via email on ideas, progress and just plain motivational feed back and encouragement to stick to the plan. Sincerely, Bill Schmidt - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: [vb_academy] Re: Date: 29 May 2000 15:16:59 -0600 "Schmidt, Bill" wrote: > > Great idea Jeff, IM not sure if we met at the academy but I look > forward to chatting with you and others via email on ideas, progress and > just plain motivational feed back and encouragement to stick to the > plan. > > Sincerely, > > Bill Schmidt Hi Bill! I don't think we did meet. But, I am looking forward to our email group for exactly the same reasons you mention... Best Regards, Jeff - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hensley Subject: [vb_academy] VB academy Date: 30 May 2000 10:22:37 +1200 G'day all One of the valuable lessons I gained from the course was "not to spill the candy in the foyer", I was solving people's problems at the free interview and then not getting the work (and wondering why) I now plan to pre qualify them at the seminar advertisement stage and spell out what I can do for them at the seminar and then get them to make the appointment before they leave the seminar, they then go home with a list of what to bring to the appointment along with the basic fact find already filled out. I will let you know how I get on Peter Hensley The Money People Ltd New Zealand mailto:peter@moneypeople.co.nz - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "donna carter" Subject: Re: [vb_academy] musings Date: 30 May 2000 10:53:49 PDT Thanks Tom Donna T. Carter, Bellevue,WA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "donna carter" Subject: [vb_academy] selling Date: 30 May 2000 11:30:43 PDT Hi all, Thank you Tom for your help and suggestions. I am pondering another issue and wonder if others have similar issues and how have you handled it. My reading of what Bill Bachrach was saying at the academy was that if you have a dynamite first interview,you will inspire people to work with you and that they will implement what you suggest in order to have more time to spend doing what is important to them. As I sit in Tuesday morning class where we role played selling products, I'm wondering whether there is a place for selling in values based methodology or am I throwing this selling stuff all out the window? My impression is that I throw it out. In my world there is a second meeting where people fill out a data book and bring it in. In this meeting I go over the data in detail then I fill out a "goals" book which ascertains what level of income they want in various scenarios. Now the kicker. This meeting is used to presell products, to conceptually sell. This seems to me to go against values based selling and definitely places me in a role of salesperson. I find this discordant. A miracle has happened in the sense that I have the OK and the commitment from my direct management that I can use values based selling and that they will support me 100%. It is however very clear to me that my management doesn't have the faintest idea what this all means. They feel that they already use much of values based selling in that they use a few of the words and phrases within the context of their selling mind set. To them, values based is just the first interview and I am expected to "sell" at the 2nd, Data meeting and in the close. It seems to be that they are missing the whole point. Help! Am I really reading values based correctly? Is it really as simple as the initial interview and then the close which is more a presentation of the results and a filling out of the paperwork. Thank you for bearing with me as I try to sort this all out. I am in an intensive training program and I'm trying to figure out how to reconcile values based with consultative selling. I've come to the conclusion that the information that I garner about the products is helpful just not the selling methodology. I have told my management that I was willing to put my career on the line and use values based. I must confess this is a little scary since it means going against the current methodology here. Thanks. Looking forward to your thoughts and comments. Donna/Bellevue,WA ps I'm afraid that I have the names and faces of people all mixed up. I would especially like to hear from the gentleman who left early on Sunday to catch a plane and who used the microphone to share with us that you had been using this vb method for about 18 months and have had a lot of success. We were partners on one of the exercises on the first day. I am the Chinese lady with the English name. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cameron Passmore Subject: RE: [vb_academy] selling Date: 31 May 2000 08:41:21 -0400 Hi Donna, I can empathize with what you are going through. Being in our own smaller firm we have total control over how we handle our client meetings. We have a philosophical agreement on how to manage the money, and what systems to use to execute etc, but as far as building the business, this is up to us. Having said that, I have years of baggage, that sounds something along the lines of what you are speaking. I am trying very hard to check my baggage at the door. I want a better quality of life (and am actually quite happy with my current quality) in terms of better clients, more free time, and more predictable referrals. I think my old baggage was getting in the way. I came back from San Diego and had a first meeting the next day with a referral. I was committed to doing the VBS approach in that meeting, tape recorder and all. The experience I had was unbelievable! It was the most powerful and meaningful interview I have had in over 10 years in this business!!!! In looking back at the interview, I can see where I would have in the past gone down "product paths" or "sales paths" or "let me show you how brilliant I am paths" ... but not this time. I stuck to Bill's methodology (albeit not pretty) and the word's came, and made it to level 3 (and didn't die). We went through the goals, where he is at now, pre-commitment, hire, and implement .... And not once did me, my company, or any products come up!!! (and had they come up it would have been me, not the prospect, because he wanted to talk about him!) I think the client was also blown away. So, I guess the point is to be a believer. I know this sounds evangelical, which is how some of my colleagues view this. Unless you have heard the rationale behind the methods, I think it is hard to grasp. I will encourage my colleagues to go to the academy in the fall, and until then, I want to lead by example. This will work. I will not go back to my old ways. This will not be easy, but the outcome will make the pain worth it. Good luck, and let's keep this group going. Cameron in Ottawa. -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:31 PM Hi all, Thank you Tom for your help and suggestions. I am pondering another issue and wonder if others have similar issues and how have you handled it. My reading of what Bill Bachrach was saying at the academy was that if you have a dynamite first interview,you will inspire people to work with you and that they will implement what you suggest in order to have more time to spend doing what is important to them. As I sit in Tuesday morning class where we role played selling products, I'm wondering whether there is a place for selling in values based methodology or am I throwing this selling stuff all out the window? My impression is that I throw it out. In my world there is a second meeting where people fill out a data book and bring it in. In this meeting I go over the data in detail then I fill out a "goals" book which ascertains what level of income they want in various scenarios. Now the kicker. This meeting is used to presell products, to conceptually sell. This seems to me to go against values based selling and definitely places me in a role of salesperson. I find this discordant. A miracle has happened in the sense that I have the OK and the commitment from my direct management that I can use values based selling and that they will support me 100%. It is however very clear to me that my management doesn't have the faintest idea what this all means. They feel that they already use much of values based selling in that they use a few of the words and phrases within the context of their selling mind set. To them, values based is just the first interview and I am expected to "sell" at the 2nd, Data meeting and in the close. It seems to be that they are missing the whole point. Help! Am I really reading values based correctly? Is it really as simple as the initial interview and then the close which is more a presentation of the results and a filling out of the paperwork. Thank you for bearing with me as I try to sort this all out. I am in an intensive training program and I'm trying to figure out how to reconcile values based with consultative selling. I've come to the conclusion that the information that I garner about the products is helpful just not the selling methodology. I have told my management that I was willing to put my career on the line and use values based. I must confess this is a little scary since it means going against the current methodology here. Thanks. Looking forward to your thoughts and comments. Donna/Bellevue,WA ps I'm afraid that I have the names and faces of people all mixed up. I would especially like to hear from the gentleman who left early on Sunday to catch a plane and who used the microphone to share with us that you had been using this vb method for about 18 months and have had a lot of success. We were partners on one of the exercises on the first day. I am the Chinese lady with the English name. _______________________________________________________________________ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cameron Passmore Subject: RE: [vb_academy] VB academy Date: 31 May 2000 08:44:14 -0400 Hi Peter, What a great line ... and I have made the same commitment in pre-screening on the phone ... get to a 100% closing ratio, because you are only sitting in front of qualified decision makers who can delegate, and understand value! Good for you and stay in touch. Cameron in Ottawa -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 6:23 PM G'day all One of the valuable lessons I gained from the course was "not to spill the candy in the foyer", I was solving people's problems at the free interview and then not getting the work (and wondering why) I now plan to pre qualify them at the seminar advertisement stage and spell out what I can do for them at the seminar and then get them to make the appointment before they leave the seminar, they then go home with a list of what to bring to the appointment along with the basic fact find already filled out. I will let you know how I get on Peter Hensley The Money People Ltd New Zealand mailto:peter@moneypeople.co.nz - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas.holmes@att.net Subject: Re: [vb_academy] selling Date: 31 May 2000 13:17:34 +0000 Thanks Donna for sharing your thoughts. I too spent too much time at the wirehouse where "selling" was the word of the day, week, month, and year. I fought this process for as long as I could (7 years) before I went independant. Now I depend solely on relationships and the referrals from those relationships to carry the day. I will admit, I was not totally on board with VBS before the academy. I did not use the roadmap, and did not tape interviews. I guess the major reason is that I was not comfortable with how it all fit together. Now after the academy, nothing happens until I go through the interview, even with my existing clients. Still working on the bugs, but I know in my heart that it is the right thing to do. Yes, I think you do scuddle the selling process. If you clients trust you, they will do whatever you ask them to do. Almost to the point where you could use discretion if that is your desire (and legally approved). I am now reintroducing myself as a life planner (a long way from financial consultant in the Merrill Days). Donna, I realize that I am making a giant leap in faith, but I think the eventual relationship with my clients is worth it. A prospect yesterday clearly pointed out that she had already separated me from her other broker in that I cared about what she wanted and who she was. Keep in touch. Tom Holmes Author of the book "Plan To Retire On Full Pay" See our Website - Ways we can communicate e-mail thomas.holmes@worldnet.att.net Phone Office 719-577-0099 Fax Phone 719-577-9793 Cell/VM 719-338-7924 Home Phone 719-687-2391 > Hi all, > Thank you Tom for your help and suggestions. I am pondering another issue > and wonder if others have similar issues and how have you handled it. > > My reading of what Bill Bachrach was saying at the academy was that if you > have a dynamite first interview,you will inspire people to work with you and > that they will implement what you suggest in order to have more time to > spend doing what is important to them. > > As I sit in Tuesday morning class where we role played selling products, I'm > wondering whether there is a place for selling in values based methodology > or am I throwing this selling stuff all out the window? My impression is > that I throw it out. > > In my world there is a second meeting where people fill out a data book and > bring it in. In this meeting I go over the data in detail then I fill out a > "goals" book which ascertains what level of income they want in various > scenarios. Now the kicker. This meeting is used to presell products, to > conceptually sell. This seems to me to go against values based selling and > definitely places me in a role of salesperson. I find this discordant. > > A miracle has happened in the sense that I have the OK and the commitment > from my direct management that I can use values based selling and that they > will support me 100%. It is however very clear to me that my management > doesn't have the faintest idea what this all means. They feel that they > already use much of values based selling in that they use a few of the words > and phrases within the context of their selling mind set. To them, values > based is just the first interview and I am expected to "sell" at the 2nd, > Data meeting and in the close. It seems to be that they are missing the > whole point. > > Help! Am I really reading values based correctly? Is it really as simple > as the initial interview and then the close which is more a presentation of > the results and a filling out of the paperwork. > > Thank you for bearing with me as I try to sort this all out. I am in an > intensive training program and I'm trying to figure out how to reconcile > values based with consultative selling. I've come to the conclusion that the > information that I garner about the products is helpful just not the selling > methodology. I have told my management that I was willing to put my career > on the line and use values based. I must confess this is a little scary > since it means going against the current methodology here. > > Thanks. Looking forward to your thoughts and comments. > > Donna/Bellevue,WA > > ps I'm afraid that I have the names and faces of people all mixed up. I > would especially like to hear from the gentleman who left early on Sunday to > catch a plane and who used the microphone to share with us that you had been > using this vb method for about 18 months and have had a lot of success. We > were partners on one of the exercises on the first day. I am the Chinese > lady with the English name. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. > To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do > not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cameron Passmore Subject: [vb_academy] great site Date: 31 May 2000 11:40:51 -0400 Hi everyone, One of Bill's teaching was about helping clients have better lives, and to delegate this money stuff so that they can do what is really important. Take a look at this site, same type of stuff. http://www.coffeehouseinvestor.com/ Cameron in Ottawa - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TCofCInd@aol.com Subject: [vb_academy] Thanks! Date: 31 May 2000 11:38:02 EDT I want to take a moment to thank Jeff for putting this communication channel together and also to all the people who have started using it. Your feelings and sharing of common experiences is very helpful to me. I know I am not alone in trying to determine how best to use this marvelous tool. Keep in touch and thanks again. Charlie Hoffman (Franklin IN) - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Salisbury Subject: Re: [vb_academy] great site Date: 31 May 2000 10:03:31 -0600 Cameron Passmore wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > One of Bill's teaching was about helping clients have better lives, > and to delegate this money stuff so that they can do what is really > important. > > Take a look at this site, same type of stuff. > > http://www.coffeehouseinvestor.com/ > > Cameron in Ottawa > > - Hello everyone, I'm looking for a source or sources on the web for the value added articles that Bill describes in Chapter 8 of his book. Does anyone know of any sites off the top of their head? Regards, Jeff - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas.holmes@att.net Subject: Re: [vb_academy] Thanks! Date: 31 May 2000 22:15:57 +0000 Thanks Charlie. I agree. Thanks for your thoughtfullness Tom Holmes (Colorado Springs)-- See our Website - Ways we can communicate e-mail thomas.holmes@worldnet.att.net Phone Office 719-577-0099 Fax Phone 719-577-9793 Cell/VM 719-338-7924 Home Phone 719-687-2391 > I want to take a moment to thank Jeff for putting this communication channel > together and also to all the people who have started using it. Your feelings > and sharing of common experiences is very helpful to me. I know I am not > alone in trying to determine how best to use this marvelous tool. > > Keep in touch and thanks again. > > Charlie Hoffman (Franklin IN) > > - > To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. > To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do > not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Riggs Subject: [vb_academy] (no subject) Date: 31 May 2000 16:32:36 -0700 - To unsubscribe to vb_academy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe vb_academy" in the body of the message. To see other list commands, send "help" to the same address. 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