From: Zorn List Digest Sent: Thursday, December 11, 1997 10:20 AM To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #190 Zorn List Digest Thursday, December 11 1997 Volume 02 : Number 190 In this issue: - Re: solo guitar Re: Leonid Soybelman (Ne Zhedali) Main Re: solo guitar Re: O'Rourke - Happy Days Knitting in Denver? Re: Knitting in Denver? Re: Knitting in Denver? i'm buying bill laswell's old records(?) Re: Knitting in Denver? Re: i'm buying bill laswell's old records(?) Re: Knitting in Denver? How To Go About Contacting Zorn Regarding Possible Gigs Zorn in Downbeat Derek Bailey Article in Spex magazine (German) Some discs Farmer's Reserve Re: Farmer's Reserve amendment to some discs Re: Farmer's Reserve slightly off-topic... Re: Vandermark Ken Butler Gustaffson and Vandermark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:57:37 -0500 (EST) From: ia zha nah er vesen Subject: Re: solo guitar The other month i heard a free-improv electric guitarist from Montreal named Rene Lussier and thought he was really good, and damn funny. He's of the use-everything-you-can-possibly-think-of school of guitar playing...my favorite effect was the tremolo he produced with one of those small electric pocket-fans. Brilliant idea, i must get one... Speaking of solo guitar montreal stuff: Tim Brady is another name which comes to mind. He does lots of stuff with backing tapes, so depending how strictly you define 'solo' he may or may not count. He has a few CDs i think, one of which is called 'scenarios'. I've heard bits of it and quite liked it. Not all solo, though...some tracks feature a soprano, and i think some other people. He's in that 'what am i' zone between, above and beyond jazz and the european tradition, as well...actually, he's not very jazzy (from what little i've heard, anyway), so by process of elimination i guess that leaves him in the 'modern composed music' catagory, or whatever one calls it these days. yeah, jascha - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:02:49 EST From: Dgasque Subject: Re: Leonid Soybelman (Ne Zhedali) In a message dated 97-12-06 15:51:15 EST, zmasada@classic.msn.com wrote: << I know there are at least two other zorn-listers out there who have heard Ne Zhedali, it wold be delightful if they'd share their opinions >> I have the _Rhinoceros..._ LP on the Dutch _Semaphore_ label. Hadn't heard it in awhile so I can't feel qualified to give much input. I remember Steve F. at Wayside gave it a very good writeup, which is what prompted me to buy the LP. I'll have to dig it out in the near future. =dgasque= - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 23:40:23 -0500 From: Valkwitch Subject: Main ia zha nah er vesen wrote: > > this isn't exactly solo guitar, but i'm very fond of the noises made by > the group MAIN, which only ever had at most 2 people in it. The current > incarnation is just the founding member, i think. yes its just hampson?(spelling) for now... > > MAIN's music is all derived from electric guitars (and bass), but is > heavily processed. Many of the albums very ocean-of-sound ambient stuff, > but 'motion pool', my favorite, is also very rhythmic, using lots of > loops. The quality of the studio work is really good...this guy can do a > lot with source material. Some of the sounds don't bear any recognisable > relation to a guitar at all...but, unless he's changed his mind, > Hampstead's idea behind MAIN was to fully explore the guitar with studio > tools, so i think all the sounds are guitars. i just got Hz the other day, the first thing of i heard by Main and i like it alot...there's an album/project that he did w/ jim o'rourke called Indicate which i haven't yet though... - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 01:30:42 EST From: JonAbbey2 Subject: Re: solo guitar One record of solo guitar which I don't believe has been mentioned yet is Kevin Drumm's recent CD on Perdition Plastics. It's prepared guitar, recorded live to tape, and I guarantee you'll hear sounds you've never heard come from a guitar before. Also, the recent Womblife by John Fahey is a superb record, masterfully produced by the ubiquitous Jim O'Rourke. Jon - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:02:19 -0500 (EST) From: Brent Burton Subject: Re: O'Rourke - Happy Days On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Tom Pratt wrote: > LOTS of drone... Sometimes it fits perfectly and sometimes it drives you > NUTS! not solo guitar though... there's some brass in there but sort of > tough to tell with O'Rourke. there's no brass on "happy days." it's all hurdy gurdy. b - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 12:38:31 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Knitting in Denver? Not too long ago someone posted the rather improbable rumor that the Knitting Factory would be opening a club in Denver sometime in the not too distant future. The rumor is true. Discuss if you like. Other Knits are still being planned for Los Angeles, London and Japan, with still more not beyond the talking stages. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:01:08 -0600 From: "Glenn Astarita" Subject: Re: Knitting in Denver? - ---------- >> Discuss if you like. Other Knits are still being planned for Los > Angeles, London and Japan, with still more not beyond the talking > stages. > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com It would be a godsend if they opened one in New Orleans ! I'm starving down here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Believe it or not, New Orleans is NOT the most happening spot for jazz.....even in the 20's and 30's all the budding jazz stars moved to Chicago, L.A and NYC to make a go of it................Sadly, i think the same holds true for the present.. glenn > > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:50:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: Knitting in Denver? On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Steve Smith wrote: > Discuss if you like. Other Knits are still being planned for Los > Angeles, London and Japan, with still more not beyond the talking > stages. Will they serve McBraxton Burgers? :^) Chris Hamilton - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:11:54 -0800 (PST) From: Joshua A Miller Subject: i'm buying bill laswell's old records(?) so, i was at my local record store (in downtown santa barbara) the other day, and was surprised by all the great new stuff they had...i went up to pay for them and was talking to the proprietor, who told me that bill laswell had come in recently and sold a load of his old records. from what the guy told me, laswell is actually moving out here soon, and that there are still boxes of records left that haven't gotten to the store yet. what i picked up already- skeleton crew;learn to talk- it's hard to believe there are only two people (cora&frith) making all that noise. wonderful record metalanguage music festival 1980; the social set- forty minutes of free improv with henry kaiser on guitar, evan parker on alto, kondo toshinori (sp?) on trumpet, the rova saxophone quartet and someone on piano whose name escapes me. derek bailey&christine jaffey;stories from six windows- acoustic guitar and voice. bailey is great (as could be expected) and jaffey does things with her voice i was not aware humans could do. einstruzende neubauten;strategies against architecture-collection of old stuff from the original masters of real industrial music, not that disco industrial crap. test dept.- another record of very good very percussive industrial music. all the records are in mint condition. needless to say, i'll be going back soon...which reminds me, i saw the power tools lp, but didn't pick it up. could anyone tell me how it compares (if it is possible to do so) with the stuff frisell's done w/baron & driscoll? also, there was a duo album with frisell and vernon reid. anyone heard this? sorry for the incredibly long message. i was a bit excited (good records are hard to find in santa barbara). josh - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:24:55 -0600 From: JRZ Subject: Re: Knitting in Denver? At 03:50 PM 12/8/97 -0500, Christopher Hamilton wrote: > > >On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Steve Smith wrote: > >> Discuss if you like. Other Knits are still being planned for Los >> Angeles, London and Japan, with still more not beyond the talking >> stages. > >Will they serve McBraxton Burgers? :^) > >Chris Hamilton I'll have the Ribot Ribs and the house salad with Zesty Zorn Dressing. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:45:54 -0800 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: i'm buying bill laswell's old records(?) At 01:11 PM 12/8/97 -0800, Joshua A Miller wrote: >laswell had come in recently and sold a load of his old records. from what >the guy told me, laswell is actually moving out here soon, Bill rented a house in the LA area. However, having just finished building a new studio outside of NYC, it seems pretty unlikely that he is going to move. Of course, things could change... Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 18:32:46 -0600 (CST) From: y9d62@TTACS.TTU.EDU Subject: Re: Knitting in Denver? Lubbock or bust On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Steve Smith wrote: > Not too long ago someone posted the rather improbable rumor that the > Knitting Factory would be opening a club in Denver sometime in the not > too distant future. > > The rumor is true. > > Discuss if you like. Other Knits are still being planned for Los > Angeles, London and Japan, with still more not beyond the talking > stages. > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com > > > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:16:46 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Audino Subject: How To Go About Contacting Zorn Regarding Possible Gigs Hello, I would appreciate any leads that anyone could provide regarding how one would go about contacting John Zorn with offers for gigs in North America. I'm looking for the contact info for either Zorn himself of whatever agent (if any) represents him. Many thanks, Paul wesley@interaccess.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- GROOVE O(+> (the artist formerly known as Prince) <+)O - ---------- e - m - a - n - c - i - p - a - t - i - o - n one nation The Exodus Has Concluded - Welcome 2 The Dawn ------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 21:28:09 -0500 From: Tom Pratt Subject: Zorn in Downbeat In the latest issue of Downbeat (January '98), there is a section in which various musicians were picked to choose their all-time favorite albums and there is a section for Zorn's choices on pg. 28. He picked discs by Herbie Nichols, Sonny Rollins, Jimmy Giuffre, Kim So-Hee, Frank Sinatra, Les Baxter, Mauricio Kagel and Masaru Sato. Check it out! -Tom Pratt - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 10:53:49 +0100 From: Friedrich Feger Subject: Derek Bailey Article in Spex magazine (German) There's an extensive article on Derek Bailey in the december issue of Spex. (In German language) Fritz. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:47:51 +0000 From: Scott Russell Subject: Some discs - --MimeMultipartBoundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some discs I have for exchange, mail me with any offers. The usual parameters apply- Avant/Tzadik stuff always welcome together with all related areas of improv, rock experimentalists, weird modern composition etc etc Faust Concerts vol2. Table of the Elements copy in lovely cardboard sleeve, numbered I think. CD Omodie Hatoba, Kinsei. Japanese mayhem feat some members of Boredoms but a lot less chaotic. Some nice tunes a lot of dithering about in different styles inc Krautrock, reggae and pop. CD The Boredoms, Pop Tatari. A real racket. CD MX80, I've Seen Enough. Fairly recent disc from seminal US guitar abusers. CD Introduction to American Clave. Double CD compilation of odd US label, feat the likes of Astor Piazolla, Kip Hanrahan, DNA and others. Slipcase and booklet inc. More Encores, Christian Marclay. Fairly rare 10 inch disc of record abuse. Pretty cool. Appropriate offers for this please. Wayne Horvitz, This New Generation. Not really your thing but this is sort of electronic jazz played mostly by Horvitz though he's joined by a band on one track inc Bill Frisell. LP. John Adams, Fearful Symmetries/The Wound Dresser. Nonsuch CD. Scott Russell - --MimeMultipartBoundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:17:26 -0700 From: Jason Tors Subject: Farmer's Reserve Hello All, I am not sure how welcome the subject of Medeski Martin and Wood is recived here, but I head a great album by them called Farmer's Reserve. It is an impressive departure from the groove orientated stuff they have been doing as of late. For those who are not familiar, Medeski Martin and Wood flee to a shack out in Hawaii to write and record music. Farmer's Reserve is a recording of them playing outside of the "song" realm they usually play in. Very textural, innovative use of instruments, and a free improv structure, if you want to call it structure. Any cello music recomendations? J. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:38:33 -0800 From: "Schwitterz" Subject: Re: Farmer's Reserve > Any cello music recomendations? >J. Erik Friedlander's homepage will give you much cello info: http://www.erikfriedlander.com/ Martin Schutz of Koch-Schutz-Studer on Intakt and Intuition records Marcio Mattos http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mmattos.html Orchestra Carbon's ABSTRACT REPRESSIONISM (Victo CD19) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 01:04:33 +0000 From: Scott Russell Subject: amendment to some discs - --MimeMultipartBoundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I just apologise to anyone who was confused by the following description on my exchange list: Wayne Horvitz, This New Generation. Not really your thing but this is sort of electronic jazz played mostly by Horvitz though he's joined by a band on one track inc Bill Frisell. LP. The 'not really your thing' does not refer in any way to this list. This text was excerpted from another message and I forgot to edit that bit. Sorry. Scott - --MimeMultipartBoundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:20:00 -0500 (EST) From: Gauthier Michelle A <7mag2@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Farmer's Reserve Jason, As a cellist myself, someone I recommend fully would be Joan Jeanrenaud from the Kronos Quartet. She is unbelievable, as is the entire Quartet... composed of Joan, two violinists and a violist. Some really intense strings... beautiful and complicated... I would suggest Ghost Opera [Tan Dun] with Wu Man on pipa or Pieces of Africa (a very famous CD), as well as Short Stories which features Kronos play music composed by Elliott Sharp, John Oswald, John Zorn, Henry Cow(ell), Sofia Gubaidulina and many others... All The Rage (with Bob Ostertag) is cool too. Good luck finding cello music!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS. DEFINITELY check out Erik Friedlander's web site-- lots of great stuff. He is super. Michelle On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Jason Tors wrote: > Hello All, > I am not sure how welcome the subject of Medeski Martin and Wood is > recived here, but I head a great album by them called Farmer's Reserve. It > is an impressive departure from the groove orientated stuff they have been > doing as of late. > For those who are not familiar, Medeski Martin and Wood flee to a > shack out in Hawaii to write and record music. Farmer's Reserve is a > recording of them playing outside of the "song" realm they usually play in. > Very textural, innovative use of instruments, and a free improv structure, > if you want to call it structure. > > Any cello music recomendations? > J. > > > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:03:22 -0500 (EST) From: Brent Burton Subject: slightly off-topic... what do you guys know about this trio? i'm planning on going regardless, but was interested in some biographical info. thanks, b - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- WASHINGTON DC: UPCOMING JAZZ/IMPROV EVENTS Fri Jan 9 Transparent Production #8 o AALY TRIO + 1: MATS GUSTAFFSON (reeds) / KEN VANDERMARK (reeds) w/ PETER JANSONN (b), KJELL NORDSTROM (D) @ Chief Ike's Mambo Room, 1725 Columbia Rd NW, DC 8 pm, $10 - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:19:10 -0800 From: "Schwitterz" Subject: Re: Vandermark >what do you guys know about this trio? i'm planning on going regardless, >but was interested in some biographical info. > >thanks, >b Ken Vandermark is at the forefront of Chicago's music scene. Core member of The NRG Ensemble. Plays in many ensembles. Forte is free blowing a la Ayler, Gayle, Brotzmann. http://centerstage.net/chicago/music/whoswho/KenVandermark.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:43:26 +0100 From: Yves Dewulf Subject: Ken Butler I highly recommend the Ken Buttler-CD on Tzadik. Buttler plays hybrid-instruments made of axes, golf-clubs, hammers, hockey-sticks,... with strings on it, and a small contact-microphone. (pictures of the weird instruments used on each track are included in the booklet). I saw Butler (with Zorn as guest ) on the Tzadik-night at the knitting-factory this summer, and was amazed. At the end of the gig Butler held a big knife on his neck and played it with a bow like a violin, at this moment it looked as if even Zorn was surprised. I feared that this music wouldn't work on CD, loosing all this visual tricks and jokes, that made the gig so amusing. But the Cd is very consistent, and has a very dark, exotic, eastern-europe atmosphere (largely due to Matt Darriau who plays bulgarian bagpipes, flutes and clarinets and the dumbec/tapan -player ). Most tracks have a slow, hypnotic groove , typical of Balcan-music and both Dariau and Buttler are improvising (I guess) on top of it. (there are also some more rock/noise oriented compositions.) Butler plays his instruments like guitars,violins,cellos,ouds or sitars, maybe it will be hard to believe he actually played on his weird instruments. YVes - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:13:17 -0500 From: cdeupree@interagp.com (Caleb Deupree) Subject: Gustaffson and Vandermark >>>>> "Brent" == Brent Burton writes: Brent> what do you guys know about this trio? i'm planning on Brent> going regardless, but was interested in some biographical Brent> info. Schwitterz> Ken Vandermark is at the forefront of Chicago's music Schwitterz> scene. Core member of The NRG Ensemble. Plays in many Schwitterz> ensembles. Forte is free blowing a la Ayler, Gayle, Schwitterz> Brotzmann. This should be interesting, because Mats Gustaffson's forte is small sounds, close miking, like John Butcher. He's a member of the trio Gush with prepared pianist Sten Sendall (sp?), who has a new album with Phil Wachsmann called Gushwachs, which is electroacoustic improvisations sounding most like Stockhausen's intuitive recordings from the 60s. - --- Caleb T. Deupree ;; Opinions are not necessarily shared by management Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. (Pablo Picasso) - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #190 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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