From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com (zorn-list Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #72 Reply-To: zorn-list@xmission.com Sender: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Precedence: zorn-list Digest Wednesday, March 26 1997 Volume 02 : Number 072 In this issue: New Tzadik catalog Re: Rodd Keith swell Re: Rodd Keith New Frith Disc Tzadik 1997 Catalog Duck Baker Re: Duck Baker new patton cd. address change/new releases/new distributor Herbie Nichols Human Feel review Mike Patton: Pranzo Oltranzista Patton Re: Samples (Otomo (was Burroughs)) Bloodcount cancelled Patton release Re: Painkiller / Grindcore Re: Painkiller / Grindcore Baron Crackshot uk tours new Tzadiks Ellery Eskelin Trio(w/Andrea Parkins & Jim Black)@ICA, Boston Re: new Tzadiks masada 4 Re: masada 4 Re: masada 4 Re: masada 4 [none] New CD on Avant Concerts in London Concerts in London DAT traders filmworks Re: filmworks New Zorn events at the Knit Re: filmworks... Ikue Mori cyro Virus virus stuff TRADITIONS IN EAST ASIAN BAR BANDS available? Dim Sum Clip Job (on "Avant") appear with Joe Maneri,Prelapse,Saturnalia See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the zorn-list or zorn-list-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:28:26 -0500 From: Tom Pratt Subject: New Tzadik catalog > And I couldn't help but smile when I saw the following description of the > Burt Bacharach 2 CD tribute: "This incredible collection is essential > listening to anybody interested in anything." But given the lineup, that > is probably quite right: Wayne Horvitz, Marc Ribot, Dave Douglas, Guy > Klucevsek, Kramer, Erik Friedlander, Joey Baron, Zeena Parkins, Fred Frith, > Medeski Martin & Wood, Elliott Sharp, Marie McAuliffe, Mike Patton, Lloyd > Cole, Robert Quine, Anthony Coleman, Yuka Honda, Sean Lennon, Shelley > Hirsch, Bill Frisell. When will this be released? -Tom Pratt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:05:04 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: Rodd Keith On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Scott Chamberlin wrote: > The other release on the tzadik's Lunatic Fringe is Rodd Keith. I do > not see why anyone would buy this CD. It is probally one of the worst > CD's I have ever heard. Rodd Keith was some guy that took > "Send us your lyric" submissions and wrote music for them. I would > describe it as real flitty 60's music. But I guess if you like that > kind of stuff . . .? The description of this struck me as intriguing, and I was thinking of checking it out, but now I dunno. Anyone hear this and not hate it? Chris Hamilton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:22:20 -0800 From: hywel davies Subject: swell someone asked about steve swell?...he has a duo project out on cimp with chris kelsey (can't recall the title) does anyone know what mr. kelsey plays? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:46:46 -0500 From: garrow@webtv.net (Linda Highland) Subject: Re: Rodd Keith I've only heard a little of Rodd keth proper, and found it fun...know many who love him. BUT those "send us your lyrics " records are GREAT! The "Smooth Music" comp is truly a thing of wonder and awe, with such gems and "A Convertible and a Headband Make the Scene', "JimmyCarter Says Yes," and other noteworthies.....Not "art", but a lot more interesting than most of what you hear on the radio... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:31:49 +0000 From: Scott Russell Subject: New Frith Disc Dear all Just for information, I have just purchased the new Fred Frith Tzadik disc, Ear to Eye. It's part of Tzadik's Film Works series and features excerpts from several soundtracks composed by Frith. The music is a mixture of melodic compositions, moody soundscapes and some improvisation (I think). There's a small band and Frith plays his usual guitar and assorted manipulations. I found all the music highly entertaining. It's not a startling new direction but it will please fans and does feature some good,fractured guitar playing and a rattling guitar/organ duet. There seems to be a plethora of Tzadik new releases, I've also seen the Naked City Black Box, the new Mike Patton disc and another radical jewish culture disc. I'm waiting to see the Bacharach disc and the new Bob Ostertag one. Has anyone heard any of these new discs? I'd be interessted in any opinions. Scott Russell. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 11:56:55 From: andy.marks@mts.com Subject: Tzadik 1997 Catalog Could somebody tell where I could find the Tzadik 1997 catalog online? Or could somebody who has it post it? The website at kochint.com hasn't been updated in a while. - ------------------------------------- Andrew Marks Software Engineer MTS-PowerTek, Inc. E-mail: andy.marks@mts.com Date: 3/18/97 Time: 11:56:55 AM Buckethead was raised in the chicken coop by chickens. - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:14:13 +0100 From: oger@worldnet.fr (Jacques Oger) Subject: Duck Baker Does somebody know (maybe Patrice): who is Duck Baker ? I saw an information about a Tzadik release (playing Herbie Nichols). What is it? It sounds fine. Jacques ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:56:06 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Duck Baker On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:14:13 +0100 Jacques Oger wrote: > > Does somebody know (maybe Patrice): > who is Duck Baker ? I saw an information about a Tzadik release (playing > Herbie Nichols). What is it? It sounds fine. From a previous post by Steve Smith: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The full title is "Spinning Song - Duck Baker Plays the Music of Herbie Nichols." It's a solo guitar record and it's wonderful. Here are the tracks: 1. The Third World 4:03 2. The Happenings 4:34 3. Lady Sings the Blues 5:16 4. Nick at T's 4:46 5. House Party Starting 5:22 6. 2300 Skidoo 4:01 7. Portrait of Ucha 4:06 8. 134th St. 3:46 9. Spinning Song 4:47 It's a solo guitar record. Duck uses a selection of different guitars to suit the character of the individual pieces. He is a pretty stellar improviser of the John Fahey/Leo Kottke variety (as opposed to the Derek Bailey variety!). But Henry Kaiser and Jim O'Rourke say wonderful things about him, and evidently the idea of doing a solo Nichols album was Zorn's. The disc may seem terribly conservative to those who prefer the extreme, but it's lovely and well-recorded, and really reveals the architecture of these little bop gems. I especially like the woozy blues sliding around in "Lady Sings the Blues." Baker's notes are intelligent and informative, and reveal that he spent time with the great trombonist and Nichols champion Roswell Rudd, who told Baker a great deal about Nichols's life and circumstances, affecting the way Baker interpreted the tunes. "Knowning that Ucha was 'a really crazy lady' in Nichols' life that Herbie 'maybe never really got over' made a huge difference when approaching [Portrait of Ucha]. Even the instrument used - a miniature Mexican guitar with built-in acoustic distortion - was determined by having that information," Baker writes in his notes. He also acknowledges Bruce Ackley, Ben Goldberg and John Schott as having provided "charts and pointers." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:57:48 -0600 (CST) From: "J.Ross" Subject: new patton cd. I don't know if it's out yet, But has anyone had a chance to listen to the new patton cd? If so could you send me a description of it? I bought adult themes when I came out last year....It's really cool but kind of hard to listen to.... muchas gracias J- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:05:58 +0000 From: treif@songlines.com (Tony Reif) Subject: address change/new releases/new distributor Hello all, As of the end of March, mail for Songlines will no longer be received at the W. Broadway addresses you may have, and unfortunately it cannot be forwarded either but will be returned. The correct address now for all correspondence is: Tony Reif Songlines Recordings 1003 - 2323 W. 2nd Ave. Vancouver, B.C. V6K 1J4, Canada Tel (604) 737-1632 * fax 737-1678 e-mail: treif@songlines.com Songlines has two new releases available April 1st: Marty Ehrlich / Ben Goldberg, Light at the Crossroads (SGL 1511-2) Two master clarinettists with roots in jazz and new music, one based in New York and the other in San Francisco, join forces in a fine and varied program of original compositions for clarinets and/or bass clarinets. Their swinging quartet is completed by longtime Goldberg collaborators Trevor Dunn (bass) and Kenny Wollesen (drums). 20-bit recording. Andy Laster, Interpretations of Lessness (SGL 1515-2) A suite inspired by Samuel Beckett's short prose work, featuring Laster (baritone and alto sax), Erik Friedlander (cello), Cuong Vu (trumpet), and Kenny Wollesen (drums/percussion). Laster establishes a unique and strangely appealing sound world, capturing something of Beckett's rhythms, colors, sadness, and obtuse, oddly-vaudevillian humor. 20-bit recording. These can be ordered direct from Songlines (email me for a complete catalog and inquire about our special offer), or by credit card from our exclusive US/Canadian distributor Allegro at 1 800 288 2007. Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:07:03 -0500 (EST) From: Jim McLoughlin Subject: Herbie Nichols Hello Everybody I had some Herbie Nichols related questions after the recent post about Duck Baker's (sorry if the name's wrong) solo guitar album. It was mentioned that Zorn proposed the project, and that Ben Goldberg and John Schott gave some pointers. I heard a tape of a live show (don't know the date) that had Zorn, John Schott, Ben Goldberg, Richard Saunders (bass), and Kenny Wolleson playing Nichol's compositions. I believe it was Ben Goldberg's project as he was announcing the show. SOOO, my question is if there has been studio work by this lineup. I thought I heard one of the tunes on a jazz radio program recently, except without Zorn. Is it possible Goldberg put out a CD of this stuff? Or is part of the Junk Genius CD on the Knitting Factory label? The arrangements of Nichols' music I heard were very good, and Zorn tore it up. A nice blend of groove and out-there/deconstructedness. Any info regarding the above, including a date of that show, would be appreciated. Jim -- Jim McLoughlin jm8w@virginia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:42:44 -0500 From: cmatsumo@cmp.com (Matsumoto Craig) Subject: Human Feel review Seeing as the band Human Feel got some ink on this list earlier ... This is from the February 1997 issue of M3, or "Modern Musician Monthly," which publishes out of Freehold, N.J. and apparently focuses on independent-label music (it's a mag about the music biz for struggling musicians). I picked it up free at the Knitting Factory. Anyway, Human Feel's latest CD makes M3's "Top Two of the Month." Here's the review, copyright 1997 by C.P.I., reproduced without permission. Written by Rob Levit. "Brooklyn-based collective Human Feel makes an excellent and provocative Songlines debut with _Speak to It_. The music is simply beyond category, but could be adequately described as contemporary improvisation, a punk aesthetic wedded to the stylistic influences of modern chamber music, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, and Eastern European sensibilities. The amazing thing is that they sound like none of the above. They synthesize all of those influences to create a sound of their own. How do they achieve this? For starters, percussionist Jim Black and reedmen Andrew D'Angelo and Chris Speed have strong ties to Seattle where they grew up playing music. Guitarist Kurt Rosenwinkel joined the group in Boston and four CDs later, they continue to explore the outer limits of "jazz." "_Speak To It_ offers a virtual compendium of their advanced techniques. Speed's "Darker Joys" is a two-and-a-half minute thrash featuring two competing riffs that grow, then collide with each other. D'Angelo's "Spaze" is a through-composed chamber piece that features a stunning mix of distorted guitar with saxophone. Black's "Tic, Tics" reminds me of the openness of Ornette's ballads; somber, but sounding almost like an old spiritual. On previous Human Feel recordings, Rosenwinkel contributed to the compositions. It's ironic that he is left off the compositional roster, because his guitar is indispensable to each track. For the first time on a Human Feel disc, his sound is well-recorded and equal to the reeds in terms of function. "The Mal Waldron tune that features vocalist Holly Palmer, unfortunately, doesn't quite work. A fine vocalist recently signed to Reprise, Palmer's breathy, atmospheric approach seems a little out of place here." .. Levit goes on to discuss how only independent labels like Songlines release this kind of music, and he urges us all to support such labels. I figured this list didn't need the prodding. :) Levit also gives Songlines' phone number as (604) 737-1632. I haven't picked up _Speak To It_ yet, but I've got _Welcome to Malpesta_, which i discovered through the Black/Speed connection with Tim Berne's Bloodcount. I really like Jim Black's work - quick and deftly packed drum flurries that add a lot of meat to the music. That's about it ... i just thought it was neat to see a real live Human Feel review. - -- Craig Matsumoto cmatsumo@eet.cmp.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:50:36 --100 From: flamerik@best.ms.philips.com Subject: Mike Patton: Pranzo Oltranzista Well, I was surprised to find the new Mike Patton album in the store yesterday, since it was slated for April release. Its full title is "Pranzo Oltranzista: Musica da Tavola per Cinque (Banquet Music for five Players)". It consists of 11 tracks, or parts if you wish. The whole 31:52 piece is inspired by Marinetti's 1932 Futurist Cookbook "La Cucina Futurista". The tracks 1. Elettricita atmospheriche candite 1:19 2. Carne cruda squarciata dal suono di sassofono 2:32 3. Vivanda in scodella 3:15 4. Guerrainletto 1:51 5. Contorno tattile (per russolo) 2:01 6. I rumori nutrienti 4:26 7. Garofani allo spiedo 2:56 8. Aerovivanda 2:33 9. Scoppioingola 3:00 10. Latta alle luce verde 3:24 11. Bombe a mano 4:00 The players Erik Friedlander: cello Mike Patton: voice, sound effects Marc Ribot: guitar William Winant: percussion John Zorn: alto saxophone The music is totally different from the first Patton album. There's hardly any vocals, and the atmosphere is mostly very laid back, although eerie. (2) reminds me of the music that is played in the background in restaurants, although it is interrupted by blasts of noise and squeaking saxophone. I am reminded of Zorn's Rebird at quite a few places. (6) features some very typical saxophone playing by Zorn, a bit like his playing on The Sicilian Clan, over an Eraserhead-like background. Each track is accompanied by a nice futurist recipe. An example for track (5): "Undresses lettuce leaves, dates and grapes eaten from a bowl with right hand (no fork). Left hand turns crank of a 'sound box' which emits geometrical sounds and rhythms." In my opinion, Mike Patton establishes himself as an excellent composer with this album. Those who were scared off by his first offering can rest assured that this one is completely different, and actually a pleasure to the ears. I was also told that Filmworks IV and Masada IV "Dalet" are coming soon... Frankco. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:40:18 +0100 (MEZ) From: BJOERN Subject: Patton I bought the new Patton CD yesterday and i really have to say that its really great.... it has nothin to do with Adult themes... its more instrumental... the line-up is: Erik Friedlander - cello Mike Patton - voice , sound effects John Zorn - alto William Winant - perc. Marc Ribot - guitar there is not too much voice on the CD... th CD is about eatin in general... so Patton does a lot of sounds that have sth to do with eatin ..like chewin etc... it is really a very good CD so check it out BJOERN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 08:25:40 -0500 From: Peter Risser Subject: Re: Samples (Otomo (was Burroughs)) - -- [ From: Peter Risser * EMC.Ver #2.5.03 ] -- Actually Negativland has a history stretching far beyond the U2 scandal. They were one of the best cut and paste artists of all time. Big 10-8 place is genius and Helter Stupid is amazing. Also Nicolas Collins does real-time sampling, as evidenced on his "100 of the World's Most Beautiful Melodies" album. Also a guy called Noah Creshevsky, who has released stuff only on Opus One records, as far as I know, does great sample work. Just another 2 cents. - -- ===================== Group 42, Inc. www.group42.com (513) 831-3400 ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:09:58 EST From: "M.Ho" Subject: Bloodcount cancelled Anyone thinking that the Bloodcount show in Richmond, VA is supposed to go on tonight, you've been lied to. It was actually supposed to happen last night but there was all this promo mix up and wrong dates being advertised that the show eventually was cancelled. So those that I know were planning on coming in from out of town--DON'T. He will, however, be in Baltimore tonight. _Mary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: Scott T Chamberlin Subject: Patton release Does the new Patton release reseble 'elegy' in any way. It seems to look like a similar type of 'modern chamber' set up. scott chamberlin chambest@cs.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:54:01 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Saunders Subject: Re: Painkiller / Grindcore On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Allan wrote: > Anthony said he's looking for: > >Painkiller like projects? (mix of jazz, grind, and > >ambient, with out the somewhat goofy feel of naked city...) > > I'm especially interested in sax/bass/drum trios that blast beat. : ) > > unfortunately, neither Drop Dead nor the Cripple Bastards have put out any > records featuring saxophone, to my knowledge... Well, thats why I was looking for jazzgrind stuff. I ve got a pretty good collection of Dropdead, Capitalist Casualties, Man Is The Bastard (two bass guitar jazz punk, very brutal), spazz, early Napalm Death, Sore Throat, Agathocles, etc. I am fully entrenched in the NY punk scene, and have been collecting grind records for the last five or six years... All of the bands/projects so far suggested are being checked out, as fast as I can (which is pretty slow, actually) > Here's another suggestion (and I concur with most of what other folks have > come up with, especially the 16/17, that may well be the closest to what > Anthony desires): > > how about The Flying Luttenbachers --> Chicago "no-wave" jazzpunk > combo that at first featured the saxophone of the late Hal Russell. Ken > Vandermark has also appeared with them...on their latest release (on Skin > Graft), I believe that the saxophone is handled by their (goofy? he's named > Weasel Walter) drummer. > > and then there's a bunch of somewhat inter-related Japanese bands in the > Naked City vein, goofy or not depending on your personal taste I suppose: > Ground Zero (already mentioned by someone), P.O.N., Altered States, etc. > There's even a Ruins cd (Early Works) that features the saxophone of Zorn > on several tracks. > > ... > it seems like there's a bunch of jazz/grind outfits, and some > jazz/ambient/noise ones (Borbetomagus and Dislocation have been mentioned - > and Dislocation does remind me a bit of some of Painkiller's _Execution > Ground_), but not much grind/ambient or all threee... > > well, the last Burzum album could be considered grind/ambient, > but not jazz. Yeah, but the guy (count grishnak) is a self admitted Fascist scumbag. Thats the problem with Black Metal, I never buy any of it because I am unwilling to accidently support nazi bullshit. But the music that I have heard is pretty good. Oh yeah, anyone interested in experimental grind should check out the Human Remains cdep - Using Sickness As A Hero - on Relapse. Its got almost perfect songwriting, with incredible musicianship from the players. seven string guitars, and the fastest and most skilled drummer in the grind scene today. Its got some really nuts stuff on it, absolutely the best thing Relapse has ever released. Oh yeah, both Agathocles (from Belgium) and Cripple Bastards (from Italy) are planning USA tours soon. If anyone is interested, I will keep you posted. anthony ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:14:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary M. Gettier" Subject: Re: Painkiller / Grindcore Speaking of Painkiller, I've got some extra copies of their stuff for trade. Let me know if you've got some good trades: Painkiller - Guts Of A Virgin (Censored cover - I finally found the Toy Factory one!) Painkiller - Buried Secrets Other stuff - Mystic Fugu Orchestra (Zorn/Eye) - Zohar Mr Bungle - Mr Bungle (extra copy) Mr Bungle - Disco Volante (extra copy) I'd like to get the 3 CD _Execution Ground_ and one of the Masadas. I've got a list of metal stuff a mile long I'd like to get. Email me for a list. p.s. Hello to Chanel and Mike, miss ya on the metal list! Gary - ------------------------------+---------------------------------------- Gary M. Gettier - gmg@ari.net | "Think for yourself and feel the walls | become sand beneath your feet." ! Don't Buy CDs at Wal-Mart ! | - Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 12:43:30 -0500 From: Peter Risser Subject: Baron Crackshot - -- [ From: Peter Risser * EMC.Ver #2.5.03 ] -- I went to purchase Joey Baron's Crackshot album and found out it was on Avant for 22 bucks. Is there a non-import version of this album out? Like, say, Tzadik or something? Anyone? Second, any news on the 3CD release of Painkiller's Execution Ground on Tzadik? - -- ===================== Group 42, Inc. www.group42.com (513) 831-3400 ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:21:33 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: uk tours for those in the UK...tim berne is over in may (london, purcell room 24th...birmingham,custard factory 30 and 31st )..also dave douglas is at the custard factory, 26 april - see you there! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Caulfield Bivins Subject: new Tzadiks Has anyone checked out the new Frith and Sharp discs on Tzadik? I imagine someone must have done so -- I only had the cash for two of the recent (and huge) batch, and I chose "Filmworks III" and the Ribot. I haven't really absorbed either of them fully, but I'm really impressed with Ribot's record so far. It's leagues better than "Shrek" (to my ears), and it really helps to see where he's coming from insofar as he successfully synthesizes a number of his influences. As if the Ayler covers on previous discs weren't hint enough, his approach really seems to owe quite a bit to Ayler -- in his dismantling of phrases, his off-center articulation, etc. By the way, for those interested there are 3 intriguing releases next month: Michael Formanek's "Nature of the Beast" Dave Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio "Live in Europe" Bill Frisell "Nashville" (!!) Jason Bivins ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:11:10 -0500 (EST) From: JoLaMaSoul@aol.com Subject: Ellery Eskelin Trio(w/Andrea Parkins & Jim Black)@ICA, Boston SUNDAY, APRIL 13th, 8 PM @ the Institute for Contemporary Art 955 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02115 The Boston Creative Music Alliance Presents: tenor saxophonist & composer ELLERY ESKELIN with Andrea Parkins (accordian and sampler) and Jim Black (drums) "...Eskelin continues to be the most inventive American tenor player in creative music..." (Down Beat, November 1996) "...One of the most stimulating bands of the decade...Jazz Trash remains one of the unsung treasures of recent creative music troves." (John Corbett) Tickets go on sale Friday, March 28th @ Twisted Village Records (12 Elliott Street-near Harvard Square, Cambridge, MA 02138 ph (617) 354-6898 fax (617) 354-6899) Stay Tuned: for more info regarding BCMA's May 21st production of Charlie Kolhase Quintet @ The ICA! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:39:18 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: new Tzadiks Jason Bivins writes: >Has anyone checked out the new Frith and Sharp discs on Tzadik? I imagine >someone must have done so -- I only had the cash for two of the recent I got them both yesterday, I too only had cash for 2. They're both great, IMHO. The Sharp disc is probably the biggest surprise, it has some of the most conventionally beautiful music I've heard him do. One piece, a solo on what I'm guessing is one of his stringed homemades played with e-bow, sounds a lot like traditional Korean music. Another piece is a simple, John Fahey-esque slide blues. The Frith disc is also very nice, some pieces harken back to his Henry Cow/European folk phases, which I quite enjoy, others are more improv/texture oriented. One piece, a duet with organist Willy Webster, goes on a bit too long, but I like the rest of the disc quite a bit. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: improv@peak.org self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/ "A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?" -Captain Beefheart ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800 From: hywel davies Subject: masada 4 i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923) is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:54:10 -0500 From: Tom Pratt Subject: Re: masada 4 hywel davies wrote: > > i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923) > is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...) Yes it does. I'm getting a tape of it from someone in Tokyo. -Tom Pratt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:28:35 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: masada 4 On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800 hywel davies wrote: > > i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Why are you saying that? There have been so many rumors about this record that we became a little bit suspicious. Even an add in a respected magazine was not enough :-). > is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...) That's an excellent news! Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:31:14 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: masada 4 On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:28:35 -0800 "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800 hywel davies wrote: > > > > i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Why are you saying that? There have been so many rumors about this > record that we became a little bit suspicious. Even an add in a > respected magazine was not enough :-). > > > is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...) > > That's an excellent news! Also, it seems that the catalog number is different. Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) From: martinj@SONOMA.EDU Subject: [none] have filmworks 3 & 4 been released yet? I heard they were out, but I wanted to make sure. j ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:53:08 +0800 From: Jan-Wen Lu Subject: New CD on Avant Does anyone have idea with the latest CD on Avant, Alva-"Fair-Haired Guillotine"(AVAN-072, released on Feb. 21)? A female trio from Florida. They use violin, saxophone and piano. Concerning the Masada 4 CD on DIW. It was released on Feb. 21, too. It costs 1800 Japanese Yen. Not full price. - -- Jan-Wen Lu E-Mail address: janwenlu@asiaonline.net.tw ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:47:36 +0100 (MET) From: Torsten Nielsen Subject: Concerts in London Does anybody know of any interesting concerts in London, April 4 or 5? Thanks, Jonas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:50:08 +0100 (MET) From: Torsten Nielsen Subject: Concerts in London Does anybody know of any interesting concerts in London, April 4 or 5? Thanks, Jonas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:25:33 -0500 From: Tom Pratt Subject: DAT traders Are there any DAT traders out there who trade Jazz/Avant stuff? PLEASE CONTACT ME! -Tom Pratt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:35:09 -0600 From: schneide@augsburg.edu (Eric Schneider) Subject: filmworks Could anyone provide general impressions and/or ratings of each one of Zorn's Filmworks collections? I'm familiar with a lot of Zorn's projects and compositions, but I have yet to approach this series. Any pointers would be helpful. Thanks. - - Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:47:21 +0100 From: flamerik@best.ms.philips.com Subject: Re: filmworks > Could anyone provide general impressions and/or ratings of each one of > Zorn's Filmworks collections? I'm familiar with a lot of Zorn's projects > and compositions, but I have yet to approach this series. Any pointers > would be helpful. Thanks. Although I like all or most of the Filmworks series, I must say that I like the recently released fourth instalment the best. It features some of Zorn's best work, not only in the Filmworks series, but on the whole. There are five tracks, each with a very different character and feel. The first track, Pueblo (9:04), is a track that prominently features guitarists Marc Ribot and Robert Quine. It is very laid back, sort of a Mesoamerican atmosphere. It reminds me of the song the band is playing during Santanico Demonia's dance in From Dusk Till Dawn. The second track, Elegant Spanking (14:22) is a suite culled from a 27 minute composition of the same name. The line-up and instrumentation for this one is the same as on Zorn's masterpiece Redbird. The feeling is the same, too. Reminds me of the softer parts of Grand Guignol. I can't relate the music to the S/M scenes depicted in the booklet, however, since there is absolutely no harshness in the piece. The third track is a wicked sound design with harsh, almost Merzbow-like parts interrupting dark ambient sounds that once again remind me of Grand Guignol. The fourth piece is a 6:19 piece for solo piano. Well-crafted, and very beautiful. The fifth piece, Lot Of Fun For The Evil One (17:48), has Zorn playing keyboards over some strange ethnic music and voice samples from Aleister Crowley talking in some kind of esoteric language. The atmosphere of the individual pieces and the album as a whole is such that I would say this is one of my favorite Zorn albums. To give you an indication, my other favorites are Redbird, Grand Guignol, and The Big Gundown. I would also recommend Filmworks III, it has some very good Film Noir Masada tracks, as well as great improvisations between Marc Ribot and Zorn. Frankco. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:19:56 -0500 From: ssmith@knittingfactory.com (Steve Smith) Subject: New Zorn events at the Knit Hi all - Mark your calendars for these upcoming Zorn events: Saturday March 29 - John Zorn & Susie Ibarra Duo, Cyro Baptista's Testa de Farinha Sunday March 30 - The Flux String Quartet plays Zorn ("Cat O'Nine Tails"), Ornette Coleman ("Poets and Writers"), Gyorgy Ligeti (String Quartet No. 2) and Michael Ratte ("Sept B"). Tuesday May 13 - John Zorn and Eugene Chadbourne, Roger Turner and Phil Minton, and Eugene Chadbourne solo Thursday May 16-Sunday May 18 - Bar Kokhba (2 shows nightly) Tuesday May 20 - Larry Ochs, John Zorn and Dave Douglas Remember, those of you not in New York can at least hear and "see" these shows live on the internet on our website, free of charge naturally. Steve Smith ssmith@knittingfactory.com http://www.knittingfactory.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:52:28 -0800 From: xander@sirius.com Subject: Re: filmworks... Ikue Mori Thanks to Frankco for the great rundown on Film Works IV, which made it sound like III would be more my speed (being less of a Grand Guignol fan myself, and more of a Ribot/Masada fan, but never mind that). >The first track, Pueblo (9:04), is a track that prominently features guitarists >Marc Ribot and Robert Quine. It is very laid back, sort of a Mesoamerican >atmosphere. It reminds me of the song the band is playing during Santanico >Demonia's dance in From Dusk Till Dawn. Don't know about the film in question, but this description sounds similar to Ikue Mori's "Painted Desert" which I like like a lot. Said record also features Ribot and Quine, and might be described as somewhat slowed down, spaced out spaghetti western music, though it does pick up (as you would expect) on tracks with titles like "Desperado". Reminds me a bit of early Durutti Column as well, if that rings bells for anyone. Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" Subject: cyro What does Cyro Baptista do when not playing on John Zorn albums? COuld someone tell me about his other projects, and give reviews or general impressions? thanks, jascha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:33:59 +0000 From: Scott Russell Subject: Virus Dear all The following message has been passed to me via the internet. It originally came from IBM. Please read this message. If anyone, receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning for all internet users. There is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS"! DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS"!! This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in YOUR mailbox! This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and who's mail is in their in box and so on. If this virus keeps getting passed, it has the potentioal to do a gread deal of DAMAGE to computer networks worldwide!!! Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends, relatives and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on so that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!! Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be stopped. Hope none of you encounter this. Scott Russell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:32:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jim McLoughlin Subject: virus stuff Hi The penpal greetings virus is a hoax. If you ever get mailed virus messages, it is worth checking their valididty at the following site before propogating these rumors: www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html They maintain a list of virus hoaxes, which includes the PENPAL virus. There are no viruses that are able to do the damage described in that message. Sorry for lack of zorn/music related content. - -- Jim McLoughlin jm8w@virginia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:57:53 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: TRADITIONS IN EAST ASIAN BAR BANDS available? I don't know about anywhere else, but TIEABB is not available in Portland (OR). Was anybody successful to get it? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: JoLaMaSoul@aol.com Subject: Dim Sum Clip Job (on "Avant") appear with Joe Maneri,Prelapse,Saturnalia Wednesday, April 9th @ The Middle East, Upstairs 472 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 492-9181 Unsound Music Productions presents: Avant Recording Artists Dim Sum Clip Job with Joe Maneri (solo), Prelapse (featuring original compositions and the music of John Zorn's Naked City) and Jonathan LaMaster's Saturnalia Hailing from NYC, Dim Sum Clip Job inhabit a soundscape somewhere between Godzilla movies, the noise stylings and stage energy of The Boredoms, and the groove of a Hammond B3...without the B3! The band features Laura Cromwell on drums (Laura has also played with Bowery Electric, Cibo Mato, Buffalo Daughter, No Safety, and in performances of the John Zorn games "Cobra" and "Xeu Feng"), Gordon Knauer on alto saxophone (Gordon has played with Anthony Coleman and members of Soul Coughing), Curtis Hasselbring on guitar (Curtis is also a jazz trombonist and has worked with Benny Carter), and Jay Brown on bass. "Dim Sum Clip Job do set a standard for any ragged chord-crush instrumental ensemble to come... If you shotgun tripple espressos in a cold shower when you woke up, would you ever go back to sleep again?" (Jonathan Dixon, Soundviews) Since there are four acts on the bill, the show will start promptly at 9pm wit h the following order: 9pm: Joe Maneri 9:45: Saturnalia 10:30: Dim Sum Clip Job 11:45: Prelapse ALSO, Come see Saturnalia on Saturday, April 5th appearing at a great loft party with TWO stages in Chinatown (115 Kingston Street, Boston) at 6 pm on the nose. Also appearing (on the main stage) will be Cul de Sac, Bardo Pond, Primordial Undermind, Juneau, Lockroove Lullaby, Abunai, and Christmas Ape. On the side stage will be The Harvard Project for New Music folks, and Lothars (theremin ensemble who will be the side stage "house band".) BYOWhatever! Contact Ditko Universe Productions @ 617-254-4151 for info. webinfo: http://www.tiac.net/users/cutter Jonathan LaMaster Unsound Music Productions ------------------------------ End of zorn-list Digest V2 #72 ****************************** To subscribe to zorn-list Digest, send the command: subscribe zorn-list-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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