From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com (zorn-list Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #82 Reply-To: zorn-list@xmission.com Sender: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Precedence: zorn-list Digest Wednesday, May 28 1997 Volume 02 : Number 082 In this issue: some more zorn questions for you zornsites? Re: some more zorn questions for you Re: Uri Caine's URLICHT Re: Uri Caine's URLICHT masada in montreal? Re: masada in montreal? sold out concert (fwd) traditional jewish music Bacharach Tribute Kletka Red Re: Kletka Red Items for exchange Re: Kletka Red Re: Kletka Red Offering 75 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in MONTREAL zorn type of sound........ Laswell Concert and More Info FS Fwd: Ground Zero in Stirling, Scotland Vaclav Havel's Night at the Knitting Factory CD for sale! Re: Gershon Kingsley, and Yiddish Theatre Music [none] Re: Re: bailey/metheny re: bailey & metheny strange Marc Ribot sighting/Pat & Derek more Bailey stuff... 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! Re: more Bailey stuff... Re: 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! RE: Bacharach Tribute and New Traditions..... meth Re: Burt, E Asian Bar Bands ouch meth excpet Monolgue Notes from May '97 Pulse (Towre Records) Re: Monolgue Re: Monologue "That Burt Bacharach CD" Re: more Bailey stuff... Re: more Bailey stuff... Re: more Bailey stuff... Re: 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! joined list CYRO BAPTISTA - June 1 at the Knitting Factory New Tzadik Releases See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the zorn-list or zorn-list-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: slawlor Subject: some more zorn questions for you Hi there. Can someone tell me what tokyo opperations sounds like? I think from what I saw on a zorn page, it has something to do with cobra? Also, is the naked city box set just a repackaging of all the naked city stuff, or does it have new material, and how much of the set is previously unreleased material? Thanks for the information. scott K. Lawlor http://w3.gwis.com/~slawlor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 03:28:41 +2058 From: thomas cazals Subject: zornsites? could someone giveme the list of the best zorn sites all around at the moment; thanks in advance. c.perrier ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:04:19 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: some more zorn questions for you >Hi there. Can someone tell me what tokyo opperations sounds like? I It's a Cobra recording, done in Tokyo with all Japanese musicians. It's actually my favorite recorded Cobra, a piece which can be lots of fun to see performed but I feel does not translate well to recording. Tokyo Ops features a mix of traditional Japanese musicians and noise-types, and just the juxtapostion of the totally sublime and delicate music with raging guitar noise is pretty fantastic. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:36:17 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: Re: Uri Caine's URLICHT Patrice wrote (#81) asking if anyone had heard this disc. Is it an album of Mahler's music? Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:39:37 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Uri Caine's URLICHT On Mon, 12 May 1997 10:36:17 GMT0BST DR S WILKIE wrote: > > > > Patrice wrote (#81) asking if anyone had heard this disc. Is it an > album of Mahler's music? Yes. Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:14 EST From: RICHARAW@alfredtech.edu Subject: masada in montreal? did i miss an announcement ofa masada tour, or this a one off gig at the montreal fest? adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:07:07 -0400 From: Alain Potvin Subject: Re: masada in montreal? sold out At 13:14 12/05/97 EST, you wrote: >did i miss an announcement ofa masada tour, or this a one off gig at the >montreal fest? The Montreal show is sold out. The Gesu standing only 150-200 persons! The Frisell shows are probably sold out too. I dont have any tour date... Alain Potvin Saint-Felicien, Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Boster Subject: concert (fwd) this is a concert notice, please feel free to forward to anyone or any list you think might be interested. thanks. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ A Smorgasbord of Improvisation Scott Rosenberg and legion of musicians Crucible Steel Gallery 9pm, Weds. 5/28/97 2050 Bryant (betw. 18th and 19th) Admission: $5-7 sliding (from press release) Scott Rosenberg will be hosting a mini-festival of music...with between 30-35 of the Bay Area's most unique and creative musicians in an entirely open context. The only determined element will be the combinations of players. The concert features a vast array and diversity of instrumentalists. The short list includes: Matt Ingalls (clarinet), Dana Reason (piano), Dan Plonsey (reeds), John Bischoff (electronics), Chery E. Leonard (viola), Tim White (sitar), Bob Boster (electronics), Tim Perkis (electronics), Graham Connah (keys), Morgan Guberman (voice), Brian S. Pearson (percussion), Krys Bobrowski (french horn), Brian kane (reeds, banjo), John Shiurba (guitar), Damon Smith (bass), John Ingle (reeds), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Ron Heglin (trombone), Tom Dambly (trumpet), Beth Lissick (spoken word), Erin Esplanade ('cello), Ashley Adams (bass), Timothy White (bass clarinet), Aurora (voice), Fran Holland (reeds, homeamade instruments), Mark Wyman (accordion), David Brandt (percussion), and Scott Rosenberg (reeds). This concert will function as a final SF date for Scott Rosenberg who is moving out of the area in June. Rosenberg has been an active participant and organizer in the improvised and new music world for the past three years. This concert marks the last of his large scale projects and the beginning of his international career, as he aims towards NY and Europe. - ----------------------===---------------====------------------==------- Bob Boster (aka Mr. Meridies) boster@ella.mills.edu boster@email.unc.edu friction@pobox.com PO Box 9383 Oakland, CA 94613 510-655-8636 PO Box 373 Chapel Hill, NC 27514 919-942-7672 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:11:16 +0200 From: Friedrich Feger Subject: traditional jewish music hi, since I have to write and perform music for a theatre play about the childhood of a jewish boy in Poland around 1940, I'd like to get into traditional jewish music, especially of Russian, Polish or other east European origin. Apart from the popular Giora Feidmann-Klezmer and the assimilated stuff of the NY radical jewish culture movement I am absolutely virgin when it comes to jewish music. Could anyone recommend her/his favourites or tell me about the canon? Recommendations about contemporary artists, traditional style or modern, are welcome too. Thanks a lot, Fritz. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SlightAche@aol.com Subject: Bacharach Tribute This is what you'd call a "loose connection" but I thought I'd tell y'all about it anyway. Tonight on PBS at 9:00, there's a program entitled "Burt Bacharach... This Is Now". It's a recent BBC doc on the man and his legend, featuring "... such modern admirers as Elvis Costello." Might be interesting. Let me know if anyone gets a chance to see it! PS -- did anyone catch Zorn/Chadbourne last night? PWK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Kletka Red hey now, been listening to this disc a bit lately and really enjoying it. as an aside, i can only recognize one or two of the tunes from the traditional songs. in any case, i'm familiar with who Tony Buck and Andy Ex are (why didn't they mention his connection with the now defunct Dog Faced Hermans, i wonder?) but who is Leonid Soybelman and what other musical projects has he been involved with? hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:32:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: Kletka Red Er -- what is this? I feel so out of the loop. Chris Hamilton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:01:34 +0000 From: Scott Russell Subject: Items for exchange - --MimeMultipartBoundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all I have a couple of discs for exchange: Jim O'Rourke Terminal Pharmacy Space Streakings/Mount Shasta Shakuhachi Surprise As usual I'm interested in any Zorn related stuff such as Tzadik/Avant releases but would also consider selected items by Elliot Sharp, Fred Frith, John Oswald etc. Let me know if you're interested and we can do a deal. Scott Russell. - --MimeMultipartBoundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:01:04 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: Kletka Red SUGAR in their vitamins? wrote: > but who is Leonid Soybelman and what > other musical projects has he been involved > with? Soybelman is part of a group called Ne Zhdali from Estonia. An interesting group, less hardcore leaning than Kletka Red, utilizing brass instruments pretty heavily. - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Re: Kletka Red On Wed, 14 May 1997, Christopher Hamilton wrote: > Er -- what is this? I feel so out of the loop. Kletka Red is a newish release from Tzadik in the Radical Jewish Music series. features Leonid Soybelman (gtr, vo), Andy Ex (gtr, viola) and Tony Buck (ds, samples). the music is punked-out originals and covers of "klezmer classics" sung in Yiddish. fun stuff. hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:23:32 +0000 From: cfinkle@YorkU.CA Subject: Offering 75 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in MONTREAL Hi, I'm offering 75 Dollars for one ticket for Masada in Montreal on June 27th. Thank You, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: MrBungL26@aol.com Subject: zorn type of sound........ to whomever will respond, naked city has some real "cool" sounds on "the sicilian clan" "i want to live" and "lonely woman". i especially like his style in the clan...can anyone tell me where i can find similar sounds? pleeease!!!!!!!!! thanx in advance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:55:24 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Laswell Concert and More Info I have received several emails about my prior posting on the Praxis concert in NYC on June 13; in particular, tickets were hard to find. This will be part of the series Creative Time Presents Music in the Anchorage 97. Some of the other shows look very interesting, so even if you don't want to see Praxis, if you will be in NYC this June, you may want to go to something. The Anchorage is inside the base of the Brooklyn Bridge on the Brooklyn side. Directions to the Anchorage can found at Creative Time's web site at www.creativetime.org. Tickets will be available from Other Music at 15 East 4th Street. Thursday, June 5: Sonic Youth, Christian Marclay, Ikue Mori, The THird Eye Foundation. Friday, June 6: Kevin Martin and DJ Vadim present "The Bug" Thursday, June 12: Vernon Reid, Talvin Singh Friday, June 13: Praxis (Buckethead, Bill Laswell, DJ Disk, DJ Soul Slinger) Saturday, June 14: Ninja Tune Stealth Tour Thursday, June 19: Scorn, DJ Olive, John King Friday, June 20: Mogwai, Bowery Electric Saturday, June 21: Ben Neill, Jim O'Rourke, DJ Spooky, David Shea Thursday, June 26: Project Dark, Blank Slates Friday, June 27: Scanner, Main, Tweaker, Sticker Saturday, June 28: Liquid Sky Music Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.com/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:20:16 -0400 From: Prentice Cotham Subject: FS I have a few Avant titles I have to sell so I thought I'd offer them to everyone here. $10 each plus shipping. If interested, email me. Anthony Coleman: Disco by Night David Shea: Shock Corridor Boredoms: Wow2 Thanks! Prentice badlieut@mich.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Fwd: Ground Zero in Stirling, Scotland thought this might be of interest to the list... hasta. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alastair Dickson Resent-From: nm-list@xmission.com To: nm-list@xmission.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:45:25 +0100 Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:13:32 -0600 Subject: Ground Zero in Stirling, Scotland Continuing their curious new policy of trying to create a scene by administrative means (which began with a Death Ambient concert a few weeks ago), Stirling Council are promoting a concert by Otomo Yoshihide's Ground Zero at the Tolbooth in Broad St. next Thursday (22nd) starting at 8.30pm. - -- Alastair Dickson, Stirling, Scotland - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:32:37 -0400 From: ssmith@knittingfactory.com (Steve Smith) Subject: Vaclav Havel's Night at the Knitting Factory Ladies and gentlemen - Possibly the funniest press release I've ever written. Guaranteed 100% true. Enjoy! Steve Smith ssmith@knittingfactory.com For immediate release May 16, 1997 Czech President Vaclav Havel and U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright Visit the Knitting Factory NEW YORK - The Knitting Factory in New York City is always ready for anything when John Zorn plays. But Zorn's Chamber Masada found some most unusual guests in the audience for the second set on Thursday night, May 15. Lou Reed and Laurie Anderson played host to Czech Republic president Vaclav Havel and his new wife and U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright and their entourage. Havel, in town for talks that may bring the Eastern Block into NATO, contacted Lou Reed prior to his visit to arrange a bit of sightseeing and clubhopping during his New York sojourn. Reed, who has been seen numerous times recently at the Knitting Factory as both performer and spectator, contacted Knitting Factory founder Michael Dorf to arrange a special reception for Havel. Dorf let John Zorn know what would be happening in advance, and plans were made. The Knitting Factory was crawling with secret service before long, and the best was yet to come... Little did anyone know that Havel and his wife, escorted by Reed and Laurie Anderson, would also invite Secretary of State Madeline Albright, holder of the third highest office in the country. Ms. Albright and Havel immediately engaged in animated conversation, whereupon Zorn, from the stage, peered up to the balcony and said, "You up there, shut the f**k up, listen to the music!" whereupon conversation did in fact cease. Needless to say an international incident did not occur. Everyone reported having a terrific time and enjoyed the music greatly. Even Zorn knew it had been an historic occasion, and gave Dorf a wink on his way out the door. ### ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:13:15 -0400 From: Tom Pratt Subject: CD for sale! If anyone wants this one, get in touch: Charles Gayle w/Sunny Murray & William Parker - Kingdom Come Free jazz on Knitting Factory Works. I'm not a large fan of free jazz but if you are, you'll probably like this one. Get in touch! I'm not so sure what I want in exchange (CD, money, tapes, etc.) so best deal gets it. -Tom Pratt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:19:12 +1000 (EST) From: James Douglas Knox Subject: Re: Gershon Kingsley, and Yiddish Theatre Music Hi, Unnh, had the happy good fortune to last week pick up a copy of a record by Gershon Kingsley, "Mozart After Dark". Kingsley is known perhaps to some of you as half of the paragon of maniacal excellence that recorded "The In Sound From Way Out", inna 'Sixties. Anyways, "Mozart..." is a great and strange thing: wierd, mock-jazz derangements of Mozart tunes; with scat-style arias, winds by escapees of the Vienna State Opera Symphony, the Jazz Rhythm Gruppe (was this Franz Kogelmann's combo?...anyone?), and Kingsley himself arranging, conducting and bashing at a harpsichord. Some track titles: "Figaro Flip", "Samba Papageno", a harpsichord. Some track titles: "Figaro Flip", "Samba Papageno", "Swing A La Turca", "Hold My Hand, Giovanni"... I dunno; maybe some kinda precusor to Mars' "John Gavanti" (well: in a like spirit, at least). And then there's Nat Hentoff's liner notes, which say the reason Kingsley was in Vienna, was to record a disc of Yiddish Theatre Music for the Vanguard label. Given Kingsley's singular, warped genius for arranging, I imagine this would be a helluva thing. Does anyone out there on the list have a copy, or know anything else about this Kingsley character? Cheers, Jim k ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:00:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Caulfield Bivins Subject: [none] So what does everyone think of the Derek Bailey/Pat Metheny collaboration? I couldn't resist picking it up the other day and, while I haven't fully digested all 3 discs yet, I must confess that much of it leaves me cold. It strikes that portions of the music are recorded rather poorly (with Wertico's double-bass work, terrificly overdone anyway, being way too up front, and Bailey himself often lost in the mix). The shorter excerpts are generally more successful than the hour-long improvisation, at least to my ears. But for much of the time, Metheny and Wertico seem enthusiastic (perhaps overly so) but unable to harmonize with Bailey's conception (and all its subtleties). If anyone has opposing interpretations, I'd love to hear them. And I certainly think much of the music is solid despite my reservations (hats off to Metheny for even attempting this, I suppose; it shows that "Song X" wasn't a total fluke). And hey Steve Smith, any insights into the process of selection here? Jason Bivins ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 19:49:09 -0500 From: "Glenn Astarita" Subject: Re: - ---------- > From: Jason Caulfield Bivins > To: zorn-list@xmission.com > Subject: > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 4:00 PM > > So what does everyone think of the Derek Bailey/Pat Metheny > collaboration? I couldn't resist picking it up the other day and, while I > haven't fully digested all 3 discs yet, I must confess that much of it > leaves me cold. It strikes that portions of the music are recorded rather > poorly (with Wertico's double-bass work, terrificly overdone anyway, > being way too up front, and Bailey himself often lost in the mix). The > shorter excerpts are generally more successful than the hour-long > improvisation, at least to my ears. But for much of the time, Metheny and > Wertico seem enthusiastic (perhaps overly so) but unable to harmonize > with Bailey's conception (and all its subtleties). > If anyone has opposing interpretations, I'd love to hear them. And I > certainly think much of the music is solid despite my reservations (hats > off to Metheny for even attempting this, I suppose; it shows that "Song > X" wasn't a total fluke). And hey Steve Smith, any insights into the > process of selection here? > Jason Bivins > Is this 3 disks for the price of 1 ? CDNOW has it listed for $12.99 ? Are there 2 versions on the market ? glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 21:40:51 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: bailey/metheny > So what does everyone think of the Derek Bailey/Pat Metheny > collaboration? I couldn't resist picking it up the other day and, while I > haven't fully digested all 3 discs yet, I must confess that much of it > leaves me cold. It strikes that portions of the music are recorded rather > poorly (with Wertico's double-bass work, terrificly overdone anyway, > being way too up front, and Bailey himself often lost in the mix). The > shorter excerpts are generally more successful than the hour-long > improvisation, at least to my ears. But for much of the time, Metheny and > Wertico seem enthusiastic (perhaps overly so) but unable to harmonize > with Bailey's conception (and all its subtleties). i listened to the whole thing today, and my first impressions ran a bit contrary to these (but not entirely). i felt like metheny really pushes bailey over the top, and i found the hour long live disc (cd 1) to be mesmerizing. metheny has a particularly nasty tone throughout, which i found delightful. and i usually HATE metheny-- can't find anything redeemable about that shit he's been pumping out for the past 20 years, with (of course) the exception of the record with ornette and the solo gtr disc (which i usually find listenable). on the quieter acoustic(-ish) numbers metheny seems particularly lost, which surprised me-- i thought that this would be his angle into bailey's world, but he's much more convincing on the over the top stuff. i haven't paid enough attention to the drumming to comment-- beyond saying there's nothing outrageous going on, good or bad. overall, i'd say if you like bailey's noisier stuff then check it out. if you're more interested in bailey's introspective side, steer clear. if you're interested in pat metheny.... buy it, say how you can't believe he could make such garbage and then try and return it. glenn: > Is this 3 disks for the price of 1 ? CDNOW has it listed for $12.99 ? Are > there 2 versions on the market ? it's listing at $19.98, so it's possible that the bargain rate could be $12.98, i guess. i saw it for $18.98 - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:17:33 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: re: bailey & metheny > So what does everyone think of the Derek Bailey/Pat Metheny > collaboration? I couldn't resist picking it up the other day and, while I > haven't fully digested all 3 discs yet, I must confess that much of it > leaves me cold. It strikes that portions of the music are recorded rather > poorly (with Wertico's double-bass work, terrificly overdone anyway, > being way too up front, and Bailey himself often lost in the mix). The > shorter excerpts are generally more successful than the hour-long > improvisation, at least to my ears. But for much of the time, Metheny and > Wertico seem enthusiastic (perhaps overly so) but unable to harmonize > with Bailey's conception (and all its subtleties). i listened to the whole thing today, and my first impressions ran a bit contrary to these (but not entirely). i felt like metheny really pushes bailey over the top, and i found the hour long live disc (cd 1) to be mesmerizing. metheny has a particularly nasty tone throughout, which i found delightful. and i usually HATE metheny-- can't find anything redeemable about that shit he's been pumping out for the past 20 years, with (of course) the exception of the record with ornette and the solo gtr disc (which i usually find listenable). on the quieter acoustic(-ish) numbers metheny seems particularly lost, which surprised me-- i thought that this would be his angle into bailey's world, but he's much more convincing on the over the top stuff. i haven't paid enough attention to the drumming to comment-- beyond saying there's nothing outrageous going on, good or bad. overall, i'd say if you like bailey's noisier stuff then check it out. if you're more interested in bailey's introspective side, steer clear. if you're interested in pat metheny.... buy it, say how you can't believe he could make such garbage and then try and return it. glenn: > Is this 3 disks for the price of 1 ? CDNOW has it listed for $12.99 ? Are > there 2 versions on the market ? it's listing at $19.98, so it's possible that the bargain rate could be $12.98, i guess. i saw it for $18.98 - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 12:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Lawrence Schwartz Subject: strange Marc Ribot sighting/Pat & Derek I came across a copy of the soundtrack to the musical "Doonesbury" and was suprised to see that a "Mark Ribot" plays guitar and banjo on it. I had little desire to spin this platter (12" LP vinyl on MCA), but thought this would be an amusing tidbit for completists and discographers. Myself, I'm half-way through the Bailey/Metheny monster and must agree to being dissapointed with how energy oriented it is (the first CD in particular). I guess I just haven't been keeping up with Derek's head-I dig him solo, with Kaiser, and with Braxton-the Arcana and Ruins CDs haven't really tickled my brain. Tangentially, the new Guitar Player mag has a nice Japanese noise guitar article and mentions an upcoming Keiji Haino/Derek Bailey duo. Not my thang, but those of you who dig the Japanese skronk should check out the mag even if you don't strum. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: more Bailey stuff... speaking of Bailey, has anyone heard this new album of him and Thurston Moore improvising with The Thirteen Ghosts (or whatever the name of that band is)? the story behind the meeting of these individuals alone seems to make it worthy of examination hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 13:53:30 +0000 From: cfinkle@YorkU.CA Subject: 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! Hi, I'm offering the sum of 100 dollars for one ticket to Masada at the Montreal Jazz Festival. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:24:01 -0400 From: ssmith@knittingfactory.com (Steve Smith) Subject: Re: more Bailey stuff... >speaking of Bailey, has anyone heard >this new album of him and Thurston Moore >improvising with The Thirteen Ghosts >(or whatever the name of that band is)? >the story behind the meeting of these >individuals alone seems to make it worthy >of examination 13 Ghosts is a duet featuring the amazing young British reeds player Alex Ward (previously heard on the Incus release "Ya Boo, Reel & Rumble") and an electronics guy whose name unfortunately escapes me. Half the new disc features Derek Bailey and half features Thurston Moore; the two guitarists don't play together. I've heard the Bailey half and found it quite good, and I've heard from folks I trust that the Moore half is very good as well. Steve Smith ssmith@knittingfactory.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:45:30 -0400 (EDT) From: SlightAche@aol.com Subject: Re: 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! In a message dated 97-05-23 14:23:17 EDT, you write: > I'm offering the sum of 100 dollars for one ticket to Masada at the > Montreal Jazz Festival. Come down to NYC on June 19th. They're playing for free. Also, while I'm posting, I'd like to mention that "New Traditions in East Asian Bar Bands" as well as the Bacharach tribute were on sale at the Knit during the recent Bar Kokhba shows. Has anyone else seen 'em? PWK * snap, crackle, pop* -- I love cereal, Ahhhhh, yes, c-e-r-e-a-l :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:01:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TagYrIt@aol.com Subject: RE: Bacharach Tribute and New Traditions..... Appaerently, both were just released this past Tuesday. I bought both of them that day here in Cleveland. If anyone wants more details, feel free to email me. Dale. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 01:52:32 +2058 From: GOD Subject: meth otherwise as you are all talking about metheny as a hot noise monster I listened to that supposed to be grey noise record solo on ECM I think a few years ago I just felt it as boring and fake and unfelt maybe I was wrong but I don't think metheny is the kind of person to do that kind of thing opposite impress. accepted the same ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:29:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian & Sharon Beuchaw Subject: Re: Burt, E Asian Bar Bands On Fri, 23 May 1997 SlightAche@aol.com wrote: > Also, while I'm posting, I'd like to mention that "New Traditions in East > Asian Bar Bands" as well as the Bacharach tribute were on sale at the Knit > during the recent Bar Kokhba shows. Has anyone else seen 'em? > > PWK Yep, they're out here too (Patrice, you can finally get your copy of East Asian Bar Bands! :-)). Got both, but have only listened to bits of the Bacharach tribute - very good, just wish I was familiar with the original songs a bit more. And the Bacharach is in a single-size jewel box, as an added bonus (hey, when you've got *tons* of CDs, any little extra space counts!). cya brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 01:46:17 +2058 From: GOD Subject: ouch hi in paris, saw few days ago atau tanaka and friends like tito and a couple of free saxophone players driving up computers and horses bones; quite good negative free jazz it was; does anyone heard recordings of that? the live action is cool I don't know about the post prerec mediums anyone from here on this list? anyway, take care cedric perrier ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 01:55:59 +2058 From: GOD Subject: meth excpet I however agree the ornette coleman record was weirdly very good but it is a ornette record that's why ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 12:22:19 -0500 From: "Glenn Astarita" Subject: Monolgue Has anyone heard Wayne Horvitz' new cd called "Monologue" ? It states on the cd cover "20 compositions for Dance". The cover is a b&w photo of 1940's style ball room dancing. I'd like some opinions before i take the plunge and buy it...thanks ! glenn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:37:11 -0400 (EDT) From: cuz@world.std.com (Brandon Magee) Subject: Notes from May '97 Pulse (Towre Records) 2 notes related to Zorn in the latest Pulse magazine. 1) Regarding 4 new Jazz labels: ...Depth of Field is run by Drummer/Composer/Bandleader Bobby Previte. His first two releases (due in June) are a disk of duets between Previte and John Zorn, and one of duets between bassist Lindsay Horner and Chanting House vocalist Susan McKeown. (The 3 other labels are 32 Jazz, Arkadia, and Ions) 2) A 3 1/2 Star review of Carol Emanuel's album Tops of Trees, whcih features Zorn's 'Tasmanian Devil', among other tracks by the Downtown New York people, who we all know and love. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:39:18 -0800 From: herb@eskimo.com (Herb Levy) Subject: Re: Monolgue I haven't heard it on CD, but I've heard many of the pieces. The music was written for choreographers, mostly, if not entirely, in the Seattle area. Most of it's good, more like the solo things from the first couple of Dossier discs, rather than any of his ensemble projects. It's not like techno-dance or anything like that. Patrice, who's closer to the label (at least geographically), probably has more to say on the subject. >Has anyone heard Wayne Horvitz' new cd called "Monologue" ? It states on >the cd cover "20 compositions for Dance". The cover is a b&w photo of >1940's style ball room dancing. I'd like some opinions before i take the >plunge and buy it...thanks ! > >glenn Herb Levy herb@eskimo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:41:56 -0800 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Monologue >Has anyone heard Wayne Horvitz' new cd called "Monologue" ? It states on >the cd cover "20 compositions for Dance". The cover is a b&w photo of >1940's style ball room dancing. I'd like some opinions before i take the >plunge and buy it...thanks ! > >glenn I just got it the other night (thanks Patrice!). It's almost all Horvitz, Ed Pias plays percussion on 2 pieces, but the rest is Wayne on keys, samples and harmonica. It reminds me the most of the his Dinner at Eight record on Dossier, some cuts of which appeared on This New Generation. It's a very pleasant and enjoyable record, with some great melodies, nothing that expands the definition of modern music, but very listenable without being trite. I think it's Wayne's best record since Miracle Mile. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:12:54 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: "That Burt Bacharach CD" Can someone tell me of a place on the net that stocks this CD (I have no clue what it's actually called) at a reasonable price? I found it in a shop in Australia and the price is ridiculous. Help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 14:34:04 +1000 (EST) From: James Douglas Knox Subject: Re: more Bailey stuff... On Fri, 23 May 1997, Steve Smith wrote: > > 13 Ghosts is a duet featuring the amazing young British reeds player Alex > Ward (previously heard on the Incus release "Ya Boo, Reel & Rumble") and an > electronics guy whose name unfortunately escapes me. Unnh, is it Matt Wand or Pat Thomas?... > Half the new disc > features Derek Bailey and half features Thurston Moore; the two guitarists > don't play together. I've heard the Bailey half and found it quite good, > and I've heard from folks I trust that the Moore half is very good as well. Cheers, Jim k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 01:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: more Bailey stuff... In a message dated 5/25/97 8:18:07 PM, jknox@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (James Douglas Knox) wrote: <<> 13 Ghosts is a duet featuring the amazing young British reeds player Alex > Ward (previously heard on the Incus release "Ya Boo, Reel & Rumble") and an > electronics guy whose name unfortunately escapes me. Unnh, is it Matt Wand or Pat Thomas?... >> No, it's a guy I haven't heard of before named Switch (real name Benjamin Herve). Also, I would recommend their first record on Scatter (Giganti Reptilicus Destructo Beam) over the Bailey/Moore record which is a little disappointing given the personnel. Anyone else go to the recently concluded Victoriaville festival? The highlight for me was seeing Fushitsusha in a small room and then interviewing them in their hotel room around 3 AM. The whole thing seemed like a fever dream. Other highlights were Francois Houle, Gianni Gebbia, Phil Minton's quartet, etc. I highly recommend going to this festival at least once; not everything is amazing but it's all at least interesting and it's quite the experience to be somewhere where a way to strike up casual conversations is to discuss Evan Parker's discography. The new Ground Zero record is amazing , by the way. It's called Consume Red and is basically a jam around a groove provided by sampling Korean hojok player Kim Suk Chul. Pretty great stuff. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:48:08 -0400 From: ssmith@knittingfactory.com (Steve Smith) Subject: Re: more Bailey stuff... Jim K. wrote: >> 13 Ghosts is a duet featuring the amazing young British reeds player Alex >> Ward (previously heard on the Incus release "Ya Boo, Reel & Rumble") and an >> electronics guy whose name unfortunately escapes me. > >Unnh, is it Matt Wand or Pat Thomas?... Neither, I think. It's someone who goes by the name of "Switch" -- I just did my homework like a good little camper and checked it out on the European Free Improvisation homepage, which is the Net's best resource for information on Bailey, Evan Parker, Tony Oxley and the like. Peter Stubley is deeply wired into this scene and has information about loads of current and even upcoming Bailey releases, with video and soundbites where applicable (everyone should check out his Phil Minton videoclip sometime). It's at http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/ Bookmark it and check back often! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:38:53 -0400 From: Francis Carle Subject: Re: 100 Dollars for one ticket to Masada in Montreal! cfinkle@YorkU.CA wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm offering the sum of 100 dollars for one ticket to Masada at the > Montreal Jazz Festival. > > Jeremy Hi, Of course, you are aware that there are tickets left... They changed the venue a few days ago. It's now going to take place at the Theatre Maisonneuve. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:02:11 -0400 From: "David Ludington" Subject: joined list I have just joined the John Zorn Mailing list. Could someone tell me if there is a proper procedure for posting messages? I'd like to correspond with other Zorn fans who live in Pennsylvania in the Bucks County/Philly area. Thanx. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:44:08 -0400 From: ssmith@knittingfactory.com (Steve Smith) Subject: CYRO BAPTISTA - June 1 at the Knitting Factory Hi all - News of a late-breaking show. Amazing Brazilian percussionist Cyro Baptista brings his dazzling drum troupe Beat the Donkey (formerly Teste da Farinha) to the Knitting Factory for one show, Sunday, June 1 at 9 p.m. Cyro previously brought this group to the Knit on a double bill with John Zorn and Susie Ibarra, and the crowd loved it. Baptista will have a new disc out on Avant this summer, "Villa Lobos / Vira Loucos." He plays regularly with Chamber Masada and has been involved in numerous other Zorn projects, as well as recordings with Laurie Anderson, Brian Eno, Derek Bailey, Ryuichi Sakamoto and many more. Ticket information at (212) 219-3006 or ssmith@knittingfactory.com Best, Steve Smith ssmith@knittingfactory.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 14:22:03 -0400 From: "Andy Marks" Subject: New Tzadik Releases It's getting to be about that time again. When is the next batch of Tzadik releases due and what will they be? - ------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Marks Software Engineer MTS-PowerTek, Inc. - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of zorn-list Digest V2 #82 ****************************** To subscribe to zorn-list Digest, send the command: subscribe zorn-list-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-zorn-list": subscribe zorn-list-digest local-zorn-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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