From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com (zorn-list Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #88 Reply-To: zorn-list@xmission.com Sender: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Precedence: zorn-list Digest Tuesday, July 29 1997 Volume 02 : Number 088 In this issue: Re: lindsey Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #87 Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #87 Re: SME? Re: SME? Re: SME? Re: New James "Blood" Ulmer Projects re: dada/gysin Re: lindsey Third Rail Live Re: lindsey Content-Type: text/plain Re: Mick Harris (fwd) Re: lindsey Re: Sharrock Interview Re: lindsey Re: lindsey Re: Mick Harris 2 unrelated ? Eye question Re: 2 unrelated ? Ensemble Modern and Zorn Re: Ensemble Modern and Zorn Re: 2 unrelated ? Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) Re: Sharrock/Jack Johnson tim berne Re: 2 unrelated ? Re: Mick Harris Re: lindsey Re: lindsey to zorn list ... Re: Eye question Re: lindsey Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) Re: Mick Harris (fwd) Re: Ensemble Modern and Zorn [Fwd: Ensemble Modern and Zorn] http://cadencebuilding.com/Cadence/CadenceMagazine.html noise festival See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the zorn-list or zorn-list-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:01:28 +0200 From: cedric perrier Subject: Re: lindsey has anyone heard about this carlinhos brown arto lindsay produced? could anyone explain me why? cedric perrier ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 09:42:28 -0700 From: "pjm" Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #87 >>On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Geert Buelens wrote: >> By the way, a Flemish commercial TV channel is using a Masada track for a >> film trailer; hope Zorn sues them. >Why do you think they lack permission? As I recall, Nike used a Naked >City track in an ad campaign about five years ago. >Chris Hamilton I seem to remember Sega using a Naked City snippet a few years ago as well. pjm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 09:42:28 -0700 From: "pjm" Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #87 >>On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Geert Buelens wrote: >> By the way, a Flemish commercial TV channel is using a Masada track for a >> film trailer; hope Zorn sues them. >Why do you think they lack permission? As I recall, Nike used a Naked >City track in an ad campaign about five years ago. >Chris Hamilton I seem to remember Sega using a Naked City snippet a few years ago as well. pjm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:35:50 +1000 (EST) From: James Douglas Knox Subject: Re: SME? Hi, Err; spied a pile of records by the Spontaneous Music Ensemble in a local -used record shop. Its not like I'm so cashed up as to buy them all on the spot - I'm hoping someone on the list doesn't mind to recommend what they consider the choice titles by this group? cheers, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 03:45:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: SME? I'm not an expert on the SME and I've quite liked everything I've heard, but _Karyobin_ is simply one of the most important records in the history of avant-garde jazz/improvisation. I'd say it's the one to go for if you can only get one. (I'd also be interested in knowing which SME records others consider outstanding.) Chris Hamilton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:55:08 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: SME? James Douglas Knox wrote: > Err; spied a pile of records by the Spontaneous Music Ensemble in a > local -used record shop. Its not like I'm so cashed up as to buy them all > on the spot - I'm hoping someone on the list doesn't mind to recommend > what they consider the choice titles by this group? My advice is to buy them all! that said, i'll tell you what _my_ favorites are... at this point the best 3 are out on CD: Karyobin 85 Minutes (pts 1 & 2)-- reissued as Quintessence the best (unissued on CD) ones that I've heard are (roughly in order of my preference) So What do you think Oliv (no title on cover) Birds of a Feather 1,2 Albert Ayler not bad, but my least faves-- Biosystem and Face to Face (avail on CD) If you saw anything besides the above PLEASE BUY THEM! I'd pay you back double for these: Challenge For CND The Source How Ya Doin' For You to Share SME & SMO - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:05:54 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: New James "Blood" Ulmer Projects At 11:01 AM 7/26/97 -0500, wesley@interaccess.com wrote: > >Info gleaned from (of all places) the new issue of Esquire Magazine : > > "James Blood Ulmer : The jazz/funk/blues guitarist and vocalist >has a new album, _Crossfire_ (DIW Records) with his Music Revelation >Ensemble (which includes John Zorn and Pharoah Sanders), coming out later >this year. Chalk this one up to freedom of the press. Blood told me last night that Pharoah is on this, but Zorn is not. He hasn't done any recent recording with Zorn, although he would like to. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:42:30 +0100 From: penwaves@mindspring.com (joel lewis) Subject: re: dada/gysin the best source for the art, poetry and theory of Dada is painter Robert Motherwell's "The dada painters and poets" (Harvard U.). The book first came out in the 50's and was a GREAT influence on John Cage, John Ashbery, Morton Feldman and almost any experimental artist who came of age in the 50's. it was out of print for years but came back into print in thr mid-80's. there is also john elderfield's Kurt Shwitters catalog from the MOMA show of a decade ago (there are also recordings of shwitters performance texts ou there as well) Don't forget marcel duchamp. tho' not dada, his ideas have a certain correspondence. many books on him -- the best intro is the philadelphia museum of art's catalog of the 73 retrospective (folks shoulkd go to the pma to see their permanent collection of duchamp -- biggest in the world joel lewis ************************************ JOEL LEWIS penwaves@mindspring.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SLEEP FASTER! WE NEED THE PILLOWS! --- Yiddish aphorism <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:42:43 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: lindsey On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:01:28 +0200 cedric perrier wrote: > > has anyone heard about this carlinhos brown arto lindsay produced? > could anyone explain me why? Are you talking about: ALFAGAMABETIZADO: Carlinhos Brown (1996 - Delabel/EMI, 7243 8 41441 2 8 (CD)) What is it to explain? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:42:44 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Third Rail Live Third Rail will be playing in NYC in mid-September (tentative dates are 912 and 9/13). Based on last night's concert in San Francisco, I would highly recommend any NY area fan of Blood, or anyone just in need of an intraveneous injection of funk/jazz should, should make sure they hit the NY shows. Last night was an incredibly high energy show, with some amazing music along the way. Blood does no showboating, it's a band experience, and the band is amazing. One of the highlights was covering Portishead's "Glory Box," Amina doing the vocals on this one. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:07:19 +0200 From: cedric perrier Subject: Re: lindsey Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:01:28 +0200 cedric perrier wrote: > > > > has anyone heard about this carlinhos brown arto lindsay produced? > > could anyone explain me why? > > Are you talking about: > > ALFAGAMABETIZADO: Carlinhos Brown (1996 - Delabel/EMI, 7243 8 41441 > 2 8 (CD) > yes. > What is it to explain? > > motivations. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:22:17 PDT From: "David Brunelle" Subject: Content-Type: text/plain I'm hoping someone can answer a few questions for me : In the "Sweet Butter Fingers" Sonny Sharrock booklet, an interview comes from an Axiom CD-Rom. Has this ever been released, or if not, will it ever be? I also gor Miles' "Tribute To Jack Johnson" which is on Sonny's discography, but he's not on it. Does anyuone know the story with that? Finally, in the packaging for the Autonomous Zone album, they make mention of an album called Imabari '91. Does anyone know who's on this album? Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer any one of these. Dave Brunelle IHVH@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Anthony 'Twizzler' Saunders" Subject: Re: Mick Harris (fwd) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Rich Ladew wrote: > >2 Words: NAPALM DEATH!!!!!!!!!!! > > If you cant find this one try Napalm Death's "Scum" (Earache > records) which also features Mick Harris. The unfortunate thing with Napalm > Death IMHO is that it is only great with the original lineup (Mick Harris > :drums, vocals; Shane Embury: bass; Bill Steer: guitar; Lee Dorrian: vocals Not quite! The original Napalm Death line Up was in 1982. The line up on either of the two sides of Scum is different! They had a different bassist (who I believe was in Godflesh), side one was recorded about one year before the second side, or something like that. FROM ENSLAVEMENT TO OBLITERATION is the best possible thing to get from Napalm Death, the peel sessions are amazing as well (at least the first two sessions), and Scum is damn good. Mentally Murdered is good, and the split seven inch with japan's SOB is excellent. Yeah, I'm the resident grind freak on the list. Who do I owe tapes to? Imoved back home and lost track of that stuff, sorry! Anthony "Super-powers? Bah! Who needs 'em? I've got a hand grenade! You'd be surprised at how much you can accomplish when people know you got one." - Hand Grenade Man, The Tick issue #11 "A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise" - Aldo Leopold, The Land Ethic ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:26:39 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: lindsey On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:07:19 +0200 cedric perrier wrote: > > Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:01:28 +0200 cedric perrier wrote: > > > > > > has anyone heard about this carlinhos brown arto lindsay produced? > > > could anyone explain me why? > > > > Are you talking about: > > > > ALFAGAMABETIZADO: Carlinhos Brown (1996 - Delabel/EMI, 7243 8 41441 > > 2 8 (CD) > > > yes. > > > > > What is it to explain? > > > > motivations. Motivations? I am not sure that I understand... Anyway, Arto Linday grew up in Brazil and is a lover of Brazilian music. He has produced/played with numerous Brazilian artists, such as: Caetano Veloso Marisa Monte Tom Ze Gal Costa Arnaldo Antunes Vinicius Cantuaria Carlinhos Brown, I guess, is just one more of the Brazilian artists whose music he loves. Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:02:40 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: Sharrock Interview At 07:22 AM 7/28/97 PDT, David Brunelle wrote: >In the "Sweet Butter Fingers" Sonny Sharrock booklet, an interview comes >from an Axiom CD-Rom. Has this ever been released, or if not, will it >ever be? No. Probably not. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Re: lindsey On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > Anyway, Arto Linday grew up in Brazil and is a lover of Brazilian music. > He has produced/played with numerous Brazilian artists, such as: there was an interview segment with Arto about the Carlinhos Brown disc on NPR's "All Things Considered" last week. hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:45:27 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: lindsey On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) SUGAR in their vitamins? wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > > > Anyway, Arto Linday grew up in Brazil and is a lover of Brazilian music. > > He has produced/played with numerous Brazilian artists, such as: > > there was an interview segment with Arto > about the Carlinhos Brown disc on > NPR's "All Things Considered" last week. Two years ago, I talked to Arto and he mentioned that he was the initial producer of a Carlinhos Brown record supposed to be called TIMBALADA (on Virgin France). At one point, the production costs went out of control and he gave up his position as producer. According to him, the production costs of the record had reached... 0.5 million dollars!!! I am wondering if ALFAGAMABETIZADO is the same record or another one. I have never heard of any record named TIMBALADA. Because we are talking about Arto, I found many records with him on Gut (Ryuichi Sakamoto's label). 106 - FUTURE LISTENING! Towa Tei 1995 - Gut Record (Japan), FLCG-3004 (CD) 1995 - Gut Record (Japan), FLJG-9002 (LP) 1995 - Elektra (USA), 7559 61 761 (CD) 107 - TECHNOVA: Towa Tei 1995 - Gut Record (Japan), FLDG-1003 (CD single) 108 - THE GEISHA GIRLS SHOW: Geisha Girls 1996 (?) - Gut Record (Japan), FLCG-3011 (CD) 120 - SOL NA CARA: Vinicius Cantuaria 1997 (?) - Gut Record (Japan), FLCG-3025 (CD) 121 - H"A (???) 1997 - Gut Record (Japan), FLCG-3023 (CD) 122 - GUT GUT: various artists 1997 - Gut Record (Japan), FLCG-3024 (CD) I am specially puzzled by 121 because I cannot read the name of the artist or the title. Does anybody have info on these records? FUTURE LISTENING! being the only one with a domestic pressing, has anybody seen it? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Moffett Subject: Re: Mick Harris On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Torsten Nielsen wrote: > Hello, > I'm looking for some information about some of Mick Harris's projects other > than Painkiller. I've only heard very little by Scorn but I liked it quite > a bit, so some recommendations would be nice. I understand he also has a > few other bands which play this kind of dark dub ambient... Is Painkiller the > only band where he plays drums?! Each Scorn album is very different, so it's not so easy to say which is his best one. Most hardcore Scorn fans seem to like _Vae Solis_ the best, and it is pretty good ambient oriented stuff. Personally I think the earlier material is interesting as well, particularly _Colossus_ (imagine heavy but slowed down guitars, sampling similar to Ministry, and obsessively heavy beats). He did a duo album not too long ago with Bill Laswell (anybody have any comments on this?), but I've had trouble finding it. He also supposedly plays drums and does some sampling work on the new Pigface album (out in August). There is a good Scorn/Mick Harris website out there, unfortunately I don't have the adress anymore...if you post to rec.music.industrial someone there can probably tell you. Hope this helps. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Moffett Subject: 2 unrelated ? I have 2 unrelated questions...... 1)In my travels on the web I ran across a Laswell site that talks about an upcoming album of his in which he collaborates with Ornette Coleman and William S. Burroughs, and is being released in conjunction with Burroughs's new novel. Does anyone have any further info on this? Is it out, just a plan for down the road, etc? 2)I just picked up the Splatter Trio's _Hi-Fi Junk Note_ based on the fact that they thank Ostertag, Chang, and Pablo Picasso. Does anyone know how their other stuff compares to this disk, or know of anyother related materiall? Thanks in advance Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: ak515@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Polak) Subject: Eye question I don't know if this has been brought up before, or if anybody cares, but it's been bugging me. On some CDs it's spelled YAMATSUKA Eye and on others YAMANTAKA Eye. Which is correct? - -- "Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined." - S.G. "I had a great idea this morning, but I didn't like it." - S.G. "I excercise extreme self control, I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast" - W.C. Fields ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:49:23 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? At 01:18 PM 7/28/97 -0400, Matt Moffett wrote: >I have 2 unrelated questions...... > >1)In my travels on the web I ran across a Laswell site that talks about an >upcoming album of his in which he collaborates with Ornette Coleman and >William S. Burroughs, and is being released in conjunction with >Burroughs's new novel. Does anyone have any further info on this? Is it >out, just a plan for down the road, etc? It's been planned for a long time, but no recording has ever taken place for it. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Subject: Ensemble Modern and Zorn At this URL: http://www.koelner-philharmonie.de/cgibin/completedescr.cgi?nr=902&order=0&v=f rame&db=PH&DALI=FALSE You can see a concert announcement for June 11, 1998 at the Cologne Philharmonic, "Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:59:00 +0000 From: Mike Ladd Subject: Re: Ensemble Modern and Zorn >At this URL: >http://www.koelner-philharmonie.de/cgibin/completedescr.cgi?nr=902&order=0&v=f >rame&db=PH&DALI=FALSE >You can see a concert announcement for June 11, 1998 at the Cologne >Philharmonic, "Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn". anyone have any more info on this?? i got server errors when i tried to access, plus, my mastery of the german language is near the realm of non-existance. thanx for any info ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:49:56 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? Matt Moffett wrote: > 2)I just picked up the Splatter Trio's _Hi-Fi Junk Note_ based on the fact > that they thank Ostertag, Chang, and Pablo Picasso. Does anyone know how > their other stuff compares to this disk, or know of anyother related > materiall? The disc you got combines their usual instrumentation of sax, drums and guitar/bass (dbl neck) with live sampling and studio manipulations and other methods of distorting their original music, hence the thank you list... They have 4 other excellent CDs-- 1. Splatter Trio (1st) 2. Anagrams 3. Splatter 3+2- Fistful of Dewey 4. Recombinance The first two are most representative of what the group does-- mixing up free improvisation and tight compositions. IMO Anagrams is the better of the two. The 3rd is a live set they did wsith an extra guitarist & percussionist, and is kind of their homage to Agharta/Pangaea period miles Davis. The fourth is a limited edition release of a live set performed exclusively with 3 CD players-- each player had a CD of his own solo playing, and instead of playing the music together with instruments they did it with CDs. Any and all of their stuff is highly recommended to Zorn fans, supposedly they met while performing Cobra with Zorn in SF. They are kind of the stalwarts of the SF scene at this point, and it's a position they've certainly earned. - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:56:54 -0400 (EDT) From: rladew@hopper.unh.edu (Rich Ladew) Subject: Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) My apologies for flubbing the Napalm info. I didn't do all my homework. The Peel sessions, however, do defy any description and is one of my favorite recordings Rich Ladew rladew@hopper.unh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Weil Subject: Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) Since we are discussing Napalm Death here I might as well throw in some mud to make things murky. I got this email from a someone who was very adamant about ND. I have not checked out the truth to his statement and have not found any Crass BS detector LPs with ND on them. So for those who want to know more about ND here is another version of the story....... Here's why: you guys seem to think that Napalm Death ceased to exist with the departure of Mick, but little do you know, Mick isn't an original member. See, before there was Scum there was Hatred Surge. It's an old ND tape with What Can Man Do/Instinct Of Survival/Abbatoir/Control/ Sacrificed/So Sad/Caught In A Dream/Private Death/Cheswick Green(live). The members are Nik-Vocals/Justin-Guitar/Nuts-Bass/Rat-Drums. And guess what? It sounds far removed from even Scum. See, Napalm Death started out as a punk band and made their debute on a Crass Bullshit Detector comp. Later they changed their direction a little and went in on the grindcore thing. So maybe they should have changed their name after Justin and Nik left. TOMASS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:22:18 -0500 From: Richard C Williams Subject: Re: Sharrock/Jack Johnson David Brunelle asked > I'm hoping someone can answer a few questions for me : > I also got Miles' "Tribute To Jack Johnson" which is on Sonny's > discography, but he's not on it. Does anyuone know the story with that? Sonny is on the record. He appears on Yesternow, and according to Sonny, there were other musicians he remembers playing with on those sessions that were also denied credits on the album. Also keep in mind that this 40 minute album was cobbled together from many hours of studio recordings. You can just about hear little bits of Sonnys playing behind McLaughlins wah-wah guitar starting about 12 min into the piece, then about 19 min in you can quite clearly here Sonny doing his trademark guitar wrangling, behind the uptempo funk figure. BTW, if anyone here is interested in trading live tapes of Sonny/JZ/Frith..... or related stuff, drop me a line at the address above. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:39:00 -0400 From: "ALAN E. KAYSER" Subject: tim berne Does anyone know who will be playing with Tim Berne at the Knitting Factory on August 3? It's only listed as Berne, not Bloodcount. Thanks for any information. Alan E Kayser aek1@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, john shiurba wrote: > They have 4 other excellent CDs-- > 1. Splatter Trio (1st) > 2. Anagrams > 3. Splatter 3+2- Fistful of Dewey > 4. Recombinance don't forget the Splatter Trio & Debris "Jump or Die" disc! includes guests Randy McKean, Tom Plsek and Gregg Bendian. this disc is a kind of tribute to the music of Anthony Braxton. although the "Recombinance" is a personal favorite, it's almost criminally unfair to mention seeing as it was a limited edition of 25 copies, now all sold out. sadly, splatter trio are no longer. saxophonist Dave Barrett moved to the east coast last year, shortly after their final live performance which yielded the "Recombinance" disc. the other two members continue to be a force to be reckoned with here in the SF/Oakland scene. hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:53:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: Mick Harris On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Matt Moffett wrote: > He did a duo album not too long ago with Bill > Laswell (anybody have any comments on this?) If you're talking about _Somnific Flux_, it's the most minimal, darkest ambient I've heard. If that sounds appealing, you'll probably like it. Chris Hamilton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: lindsey On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > FUTURE LISTENING! being > the only one with a domestic pressing, has anybody seen it? I don't have it myself, but it's in pretty wide circulation, and got coverage in the mainstream US music press. Towa Tei is a former member of dance-pop superstars Dee-Lite. (I'm fairly certain that there are more E's in there, but I can't be bothered to look it up.) Chris Hamilton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:42:28 -0400 From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey) Subject: Re: lindsey >On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) SUGAR in their vitamins? wrote: >> >> On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: >> >> > Anyway, Arto Linday grew up in Brazil and is a lover of Brazilian music. >> > He has produced/played with numerous Brazilian artists, such as: >> >> there was an interview segment with Arto >> about the Carlinhos Brown disc on >> NPR's "All Things Considered" last week. I haven't been following this thread closely (so possibly someone has already mentioned it), but speaking of Lindsay, just out is: "Hypercivilizado - The Arto Lindsay remixes" CD on Gramaphone (I believe). Remixes of tracks by some of NYC's so-called "illbient" artists and others, such as DJ Spooky, We, Sub Dub, DJ Soul Slinger, SPIT and more. - -Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:18:20 -0300 (GMT-0300) From: perojo@unsl.edu.ar Subject: to zorn list ... Hi everybody : I need information about Painkiller, the following cds: Rituals:live in Japan, and Guts of a virgin... information like label, where i can but it, prices, any information. Txs. - -- P.E.R.(unsl) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:52:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian & Sharon Beuchaw Subject: Re: Eye question On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, David Polak wrote: > I don't know if this has been brought up before, or if anybody cares, but > it's been bugging me. On some CDs it's spelled YAMATSUKA Eye and on others > YAMANTAKA Eye. Which is correct? Both. Apparently Eye changed it for some reason (I can't remember why, but it was in some interview a while ago - how's that for being specific :-)) some time back. You might check out the Boredoms web page to see if it has the relevant info (go to ubl.com and search on Boredoms). cya brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:18:12 +0200 From: cedric perrier Subject: Re: lindsey yes, I was just a bit astonished because it's kind of very commercial and video promo is on important rotation on french TV. what is NPR by the way. thanks cedric Patrick Carey wrote: > >On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) SUGAR in their vitamins? > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > >> > >> > Anyway, Arto Linday grew up in Brazil and is a lover of Brazilian > music. > >> > He has produced/played with numerous Brazilian artists, such as: > >> > >> there was an interview segment with Arto > >> about the Carlinhos Brown disc on > >> NPR's "All Things Considered" last week. > > I haven't been following this thread closely (so possibly someone has > already mentioned it), but speaking of Lindsay, just out is: > > "Hypercivilizado - The Arto Lindsay remixes" CD on Gramaphone (I > believe). > > Remixes of tracks by some of NYC's so-called "illbient" artists and > others, > such as DJ Spooky, We, Sub Dub, DJ Soul Slinger, SPIT and more. > > -Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:27:53 -0700 From: "pjm" Subject: Re: Mick Harris (oops bad Napalm info) I seem to remember seeing Napalm Death's name on the first Bullshit Detector LP, but it was so long ago, i can't remember what the track sounded like. pjm > > Since we are discussing Napalm Death here I might as well throw > in some mud to make things murky. I got this email from a someone > who was very adamant about ND. I have not checked out the truth to > his statement and have not found any Crass BS detector LPs with > ND on them. So for those who want to know more about ND here is > another version of the story....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:52:16 -0400 From: Glenn Ianaro Subject: Re: Mick Harris (fwd) Napalm Death just played here in Pittsburgh a few days ago. I've seen them a few times, If anybody doesn't already know, Napalm Death was the First GrindCore Band. From back in the 80's, Metallica was doing their thing on their first tape and Napalm Death Was 100,000,000 times heavier but really underground. For anyone who wants some REALLY extreme fast and hectice music, Napalm is the band for you. ALso, similar band is Carcass (old material) Actually, the original guitar player from Napalm is in Carcass. Their first two albums are very similar but a little bit more metally. Definitely great stuff. Check them out, their called Reak of Putrifaction and Symphonies of sickness. SOrry for getting a little off topic, I am another resident grindhead. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 23:41:05 -0700 From: Michael O'Connor Subject: Re: Ensemble Modern and Zorn Mike Ladd wrote: >=20 > >At this URL: > >http://www.koelner-philharmonie.de/cgibin/completedescr.cgi?nr= =3D902&order=3D0&v=3Df >=20 > >rame&db=3DPH&DALI=3DFALSE >=20 > >You can see a concert announcement for June 11, 1998 at the Cologn= e > >Philharmonic, "Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn". >=20 > anyone have any more info on this?? i got server errors when i tri= ed to > access, plus, my mastery of the german language is near the realm o= f > non-existance. >=20 > thanx for any info >=20 Maybe someone can translate this: [Hier k=F6nnen Sie die Tickets Ihrer Wunschkonzertwahl bestellen:] Titel: 'Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn' Termin: 11.6.98, 20:00 Uhr St=E4tte: K=F6lner Philharmonie Veranstalter: K=F6lnMusik K=F6lnTicket-Nr.: Preise: einheitlich DM 36,- Preisgruppen: ( 1 / 2 / 3 / 4/ 5 / 6 ) Alle Preise zzgl. 10% Vorverkaufsgeb=FChr und DM 5,- Bearbeitungsgeb=FChr pro Zusendung. [Verehrter Kunde] Die Veranstaltung hat entweder bereits stattgefunden bzw.der Vorverkauf hat noch nicht begonnen. [Zur=FCck] =20 [Hier ist die ausf=FChrliche Beschreibung Ihrer Wunschkonzertwahl] Donnerstag, 11. Juni 98, 20:00 Uhr, K=F6lner Philharmonie 'Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn' Akzente Ensemble Modern John Zorn John Zorn Zwei Urauff=FChrungen sowie weitere St=FCcke von und mit John Zorn K=F6lnMusik Vorverkaufsbeginn: 11.02.1998 Preise: einheitlich DM 36,- =C4nderungen vorbehalten! [Zur=FCck] Michael O'Connor http://www.wp.com/funandblindness ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:16:22 -0700 From: Michael O'Connor Subject: [Fwd: Ensemble Modern and Zorn] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------7595797F4F93F885F7F50DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Gerd Heinlein. - --------------7595797F4F93F885F7F50DB2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from freenet1.carleton.ca ([134.117.136.20]) by freenet7.carleton.ca (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAA26864 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:09:27 -0400 Received: from stimpy.globecomm.net (stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4]) by freenet1.carleton.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02770 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.30.45]) by stimpy.globecomm.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA21618 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helena.mi.uni-erlangen.de (helena.mi.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.103.20]) by uni-erlangen.de with SMTP id JAA19606 (8.7.6/7.5c-FAU); for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:09:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sabitu by mi.uni-erlangen.de with SMTP; id JAA14748 (SMI-8.6/7.5b-FAU); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:09:34 +0200 From: Gerd Heinlein Message-Id: <199707290709.JAA14748@helena.mi.uni-erlangen.de> Subject: Re: Ensemble Modern and Zorn To: mjo@notnow.com (Michael O'Connor) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:09:31 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <33DD9080.1624@notnow.com> from "Michael O'Connor" at Jul 28, 97 11:41:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Mike Ladd wrote: > >=20 > > >At this URL: > > >http://www.koelner-philharmonie.de/cgibin/completedescr.cgi?nr= > =3D902&order=3D0&v=3Df > >=20 > > >rame&db=3DPH&DALI=3DFALSE > >=20 > > >You can see a concert announcement for June 11, 1998 at the Cologn= > e > > >Philharmonic, "Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn". > >=20 > > anyone have any more info on this?? i got server errors when i tri= > ed to > > access, plus, my mastery of the german language is near the realm o= > f > > non-existance. > >=20 > > thanx for any info > >=20 > > Maybe someone can translate this: > > [Hier k=F6nnen Sie die Tickets Ihrer Wunschkonzertwahl bestellen:] [This is where you can order tickets for the concert of your choice] > Titel: 'Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn' Title (see above) > Termin: 11.6.98, 20:00 Uhr Date: June 11th, 1998, 20:00 > St=E4tte: K=F6lner Philharmonie Place: Cologne Philharmonic Hall(?) > Veranstalter: K=F6lnMusik Organizer: Cologne Music > K=F6lnTicket-Nr.: Cologne Ticket Nr.: > Preise: einheitlich DM 36,- Prices: (all) DM 36.- > Preisgruppen: ( 1 / 2 / 3 / 4/ 5 / 6 ) Price groups: > Alle Preise zzgl. 10% Vorverkaufsgeb=FChr und DM 5,- Add 10% fee for advance sale plus DM 5.- for handling to all prices prices > Bearbeitungsgeb=FChr > pro Zusendung. > > [Verehrter Kunde] [Dear Customer] > > Die Veranstaltung hat entweder bereits stattgefunden bzw.der > Vorverkauf hat noch nicht begonnen. This concert either took place already, or ticket sales have not yet started. > > > [Hier ist die ausf=FChrliche Beschreibung Ihrer Wunschkonzertwahl] [Here's a detailed description of the concert you chose] > > Donnerstag, 11. Juni 98, 20:00 Uhr, K=F6lner Philharmonie Thursday, June 11, 98, 20:00 h, Cologne Philharmonic > > 'Ensemble Modern meets John Zorn' (see above) > > Akzente Accents (Accentuations?) > > Ensemble Modern > John Zorn > > John Zorn > Zwei Urauff=FChrungen Two premieres > sowie weitere St=FCcke von und mit John Zorn plus further pieces (written and played) by John Zorn > > K=F6lnMusik Cologne Music > Vorverkaufsbeginn: 11.02.1998 Ticket sales start Feb. 11th, 1998 > Preise: einheitlich DM 36,- Prices: all seats DM 36.- > > > Michael O'Connor > > http://www.wp.com/funandblindness - --------------7595797F4F93F885F7F50DB2-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:29:07 -0700 From: "mcmullenm" Subject: http://cadencebuilding.com/Cadence/CadenceMagazine.html This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01BC9BF9.7B24C2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: Splatter Trio To anyone who likes Splatter's Hi-Fi Junk Note, I would recommend HARDCORE CHAMBER MUSIC by Koch-Schutz-Studer [INTAKT CD 042]. This is a Swiss trio playing reeds, electric cello, and percussion, with heavy use of sampling. Samples are listed and include Hendrix, Elliott Sharp, Xenakis, Napalm Death, etc. There is a band based in Boston called Debris which is also in this category of music. In fact, Debris collaborated with the Splatter Trio on a CD of Anthony Braxton compositions, JUMP OR DIE [Music & Arts 843]. The artists associated more directly with Splatter in the SF Bay Area are well documented on Rastascan Records. The Sun Ra tribute on that label has some wonderful music by a variety of artists. A great source for this music is Cadence Magazine. In addition to excellent reviews, the catalog in the center section carries all of the music mentioned above. A link to their website is included in this post. Keith McMullen - ------=_NextPart_000_01BC9BF9.7B24C2E0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Reco...url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Reco.. (Internet Shortcut) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Reco...url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://cadencebuilding.com/Cadence/CadenceMagazine.html - ------=_NextPart_000_01BC9BF9.7B24C2E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:15:35 PDT From: "Jack Torrance" Subject: noise festival I don't know if this is of interest to anyone on this list but WKCR 89.9 FM in N.Y.C. is having thier first ever noise fetival for the next 3 days ,including many live over the telephone performances.The schedule I copied from thier web site is attached. Jack Torrance WKCR-FM (89.9) proudly presents the NOISE FESTIVAL July 29, 30, and 31 The festival will run for 72 hours through all of Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. THE SCHEDULE TUESDAY 12am - 6am: historic noise - - Italian Futurists, Lou Reed’s "MetalMachineMusic", Nurse w/ Wound, Throbbing Gristle, P16.D4, Dry Lungs compilations, early Masonna, Hijokaidan & Merzbow, etc. - interviews with Paul Lemos and Ron Lessard 6am - 9am: trashy/improvised noise 9am - 12pm: ugly noise 12pm - 4pm: beautiful noise/quiet noise 4pm - 5pm: mlehst (telephone performance from Britain) 5pm - 6pm: TADM (telephone performance from Canada) 6pm - 8pm: Merzbow 7pm - 7.30pm: Hermit (telephone performance from Canada) 7.30pm - 8pm: DL Savings T.X. (live in-studio from Michigan) 8pm - 8.30pm: Negro (Telephone performance from Minnesota) 8.30pm - 9pm: New Port (Telephone performance from Minnesota) 9pm - 9.30pm: Tom Sutter/Regicide Bureau (telephone performance from Missouri) 9.30pm - 10pm: An Oxygen Auction (live in-studio from New Jersey) 11pm - 12am: Spastic Colon (telephone from San Francisco) WEDNESDAY 12am - 3am: Al Jill-Off, guest DJ 3am - 6am: intellectual noise 6am - 7am: Jodie Monotrona & Kelly Kuvo 7am - 9am: noise by women/misogynist noise 9am - 11am: funny noise 11am - 12pm: Lasse Marhang 12pm - 3pm: noise as pop 3pm - 3.30pm: K. Toeplitz (live telephone performance from France) 3.30pm - 4pm: Westland (live telephone performance from France) 3pm - 6pm: Aube 6pm - 7pm: Can’t (live in-studio from Boston) 7pm - 9pm: Borbetomagus interview 9pm - 11pm: Runzelstirn & Gurgelstock 11pm - 12pm: Simon & Keiko (live in-studio from Boston) THURSDAY 12am - 3am: Germany/West Europe 3am - 3.30am: MSBR (live telephone performance from Japan) 3am - 6am: Japan 6am - 9am: US 9am - 11pm: Northern Europe 11pm - 1pm: UK 1pm - 2pm: Tea Culture (live telephone performance from UK) 2pm - 3pm: Masonna 3pm - 3:30pm: Expose Yr Eyes (live telephone performance from UK) 3:30pm - 4pm: Prick Decay (live telephone performance from Bhutan) 4pm - 4.30pm: Evil Moisture (live telephone performance from UK) 5pm - 6pm: 36 (live in-studio from Virginia) 6pm - 7pm: Dog (live in-studio from Boston) 7pm - 8pm: Reptilicus (live telephone performance from Iceland) 8pm - 9pm: Exercise in Disgust (live in-studio performance from New Jersey) 9pm - 10pm: Woe Is Me (live in-studio from Manhattan) 10pm - 12am: freestyle noise jam e-mail us at wkcr@columbia.edu WKCR-FM 89.9 490 Riverside Drive New York, NY 10027 (212)854-9290 (listener request) (212)854-9297 (business) (212)854-9296 (fax) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of zorn-list Digest V2 #88 ****************************** To subscribe to zorn-list Digest, send the command: subscribe zorn-list-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-zorn-list": subscribe zorn-list-digest local-zorn-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date.