From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com (zorn-list Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #89 Reply-To: zorn-list@xmission.com Sender: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com Precedence: zorn-list Digest Thursday, July 31 1997 Volume 02 : Number 089 In this issue: Re: lindsey Re: SME Re: 2 unrelated ? Re: 2 unrelated ? Re: 2 unrelated ? Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... Naked City in commercials Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... Re: noise festival Re: Naked City in commercials masada alef liner notes Re: Naked City in commercials Re: Naked City in commercials Re: Herb Robertson Praxis Live Content-Type: text/plain Content-Type: text/plain SF Bay Activities? Saw Copy of Bible Launcher in SF Re: SF Bay Activities? Boston Madness See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the zorn-list or zorn-list-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "m. rizzi" Subject: Re: lindsey cedric perrier, demi-God and Icon sez: > >what is NPR by the way. NPR stands for National Public Radio here in the U.S. It is a nationally syndicated collection of news and information shows. ASIDE to zorn-list folks: please remember to trim down the text you are replying to the relevent sentence or two. thanks. [snip - 26 lines of unrelated text removed] >> >> there was an interview segment with Arto >> >> about the Carlinhos Brown disc on >> >> NPR's "All Things Considered" last week. cheers, mike rizzi zorn-list-maintenance-foreman - ------------------- rizzi@netcom.com ----------------------------------- www.browbeat.com "Another nerd with a soulpatch" www.grin.net/~rizzi/burma.html browbeat magazine, po box 11124, oakland, ca 94611-1124 ---------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:48:06 -0400 (EDT) From: AJSExec@aol.com Subject: Re: SME > Err; spied a pile of records by the Spontaneous Music Ensemble in a > local -used record shop. Its not like I'm so cashed up as to buy them all > on the spot - I'm hoping someone on the list doesn't mind to recommend > what they consider the choice titles by this group? I'll second "Karyobin", "Quintessence", and "So What Do You Think", in that order. The albums with Bobby Bradford are also good, except for Bradford fans, because he generally gets swallowed up by the rest of the Ensemble. - - Todd S. Jenkins ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:49:10 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? > although the "Recombinance" is > a personal favorite, it's almost > criminally unfair to mention > seeing as it was a limited > edition of 25 copies, now all > sold out. well, I consider this to be a major accomplishment musically, and in spite of the limited pressing, it was available to the public, therefore part of their discography. and who knows maybe Sony will obtain the rights from Rastascan in exchange for Rastascan getting to have its Christmas Party in the middle of the Sony Festival at the Knitting Factory... - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:43:16 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? > don't forget the > Splatter Trio & Debris "Jump or Die" > disc! whoops! a major oversite on my part, this disc is amazing!! > sadly, splatter trio are no > longer. saxophonist Dave Barrett > moved to the east coast last > year, shortly after their final > live performance which yielded > the "Recombinance" disc. actually this is all untrue-- Splatter Trio is on HIATUS... because Dave Barrett moved to Mexico this year... after their last live performance in Jan 97 (the Recombinance CD was recorded in Aug 96)... They are by no means history--they have at least one CD recorded (an extended group project) that has yet to be released, and they nearly played at the Texaco Festival in NY last month, but Robair had a scheduling conflict. - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Re: 2 unrelated ? On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, john shiurba wrote: [ Re: "Recombinance" ] > well, I consider this to be a major accomplishment musically, couldn't agree more. > and who knows maybe Sony will obtain the rights from > Rastascan in exchange for Rastascan getting to have its Christmas Party in > the middle of the Sony Festival at the Knitting Factory... hey, if Zorn can do it, why can't Rastascan? ;) hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:45:15 -0600 From: "Wilson, King of Prussia" Subject: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... I was strolling through a Tower today, and noticed some new laswell recordings. The cd's themselves looked like they came out of someone's cd burner, and they had no cover. A big sticker on the front announced them as Limited Edition Bill Laswell Phat Dub #1, and #2. Normally, they would be playing in my home cd player right now, but I'm leaving on phish tour for a week or so, and am cash-strapped. They both listed for twenty bucks. Anyone wanna tell me what they are, so I can start drooling now? Also, regarding some other bands of interest of people around hear, I'm wondering what people think of the latest Melvins, or the Godflesh remix of Songs of Love and Hate? Personally, I think both are incredible.... Also2, can someone post a review of the latest Mike Patton solo disk? Anyone else notice the index to the new Tzadik site has changed? It's no longer Zorn's Corner...... read icculus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:39:42 -0700 From: Jason Edward Kocol Subject: Naked City in commercials > >As I recall, Nike used a Naked City track in an ad campaign about > >five years ago. > > >Chris Hamilton > >I seem to remember Sega using a Naked City snippet a few years ago as >well. Could anyone tell me from which songs they were? That's an interesting piece of information. - -Jason http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/2569/Suburban.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:25:59 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... At 05:45 PM 7/29/97 -0600, Wilson, King of Prussia wrote: > I was strolling through a Tower today, and noticed some new laswell >recordings. The cd's themselves looked like they came out of someone's cd >burner, and they had no cover. A big sticker on the front announced them >as Limited Edition Bill Laswell Phat Dub #1, and #2. Normally, they would >be playing in my home cd player right now, but I'm leaving on phish tour >for a week or so, and am cash-strapped. They both listed for twenty bucks. >Anyone wanna tell me what they are, so I can start drooling now? These aren't new or limited, really. They are the APC Tracks discs (see the Axiom Web Site, URL below.) They are really worth buying, and even though they are not limited editions, they will be hard to find after a few months. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:50:20 -0400 From: Jeff Schwartz Subject: Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... Jeff Spirer wrote: > > At 05:45 PM 7/29/97 -0600, Wilson, King of Prussia wrote: > > I was strolling through a Tower today, and noticed some new laswell > >recordings. The cd's themselves looked like they came out of someone's cd > >burner, and they had no cover. A big sticker on the front announced them > >as Limited Edition Bill Laswell Phat Dub #1, and #2. Normally, they would > >be playing in my home cd player right now, but I'm leaving on phish tour > >for a week or so, and am cash-strapped. They both listed for twenty bucks. > >Anyone wanna tell me what they are, so I can start drooling now? > > These aren't new or limited, really. They are the APC Tracks discs (see > the Axiom Web Site, URL below.) They are really worth buying, and even > though they are not limited editions, they will be hard to find after a few > months. > > Jeff Spirer > Axiom/Material > www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ Is this also true for the "Ambience Dub" volumes which are on the APC label and appear to have the same personel as the "APC Tracks" CDs? I got the "APC Tracks" CDs from APC's web site after they were discussed on this list & they are quite cool-as is Robert Lloyd's "Think about Brooklyn" which has Lloyd, Laswell, Sonny Sharrock, Anton Fier, and Gregorie Garrigues in an uncharacteristically unprocessed session, by which I mean that it sounds like a recording of a bunch of musicians playing conventional instruments in a room, the complete opposite of Somnific Flux (not that I don't dig that CD a lot, you know). - -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:16:20 -0700 From: Jeff Spirer Subject: Re: Laswell limited editions, and other stuff.... At 09:50 PM 7/29/97 -0400, Jeff Schwartz wrote: >Jeff Spirer wrote: >> >> These aren't new or limited, really. They are the APC Tracks discs (see >> the Axiom Web Site, URL below.) They are really worth buying, and even >> though they are not limited editions, they will be hard to find after a few >> months. >Is this also true for the "Ambience Dub" volumes which are on the APC label and appear >to have the same personel as the "APC Tracks" CDs? I got the "APC Tracks" CDs from >APC's web site after they were discussed on this list These are the same discs. They were somewhat repackaged by ROIR, who is distributing them. > & they are quite cool-as is Robert >Lloyd's "Think about Brooklyn" which has Lloyd, Laswell, Sonny Sharrock, Anton Fier, Very cool recording. Jeff Spirer Axiom/Material www.hyperreal.org/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Anthony 'Twizzler' Saunders" Subject: Re: noise festival On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Jack Torrance wrote: > I don't know if this is of interest to anyone on this list but WKCR 89.9 > FM in N.Y.C. is having thier first ever noise fetival for the next 3 This is of major interest to me, because... > 8pm - 9pm: Exercise in Disgust (live in-studio performance from New > Jersey) Would just happen to be me and two of my best friends!! > 9pm - 10pm: Woe Is Me (live in-studio from Manhattan) And this guy just flat out rules! Hermit was really amazing... I've taped about 13 hours of the marathon so far using my vcr... So much to listen to! Anthony... resident grind AND noise freak! (and performer) "A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise" - Aldo Leopold, The Land Ethic ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 02:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hamilton Subject: Re: Naked City in commercials On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Jason Edward Kocol wrote: > Could anyone tell me from which songs they were? Don't they all sound alike? :^) The Nike commercial used one of the short grindcore-like pieces from _Torture Garden_. I'm afraid at this late date that's the best I can do. Chris Hamilton Currently in Heaven Listening to _Live-Evil_, Finally Available on Domestic CD (anyone know when that Laswell remix album is due out?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:17:48 -0400 From: "mcbride/turner" Subject: masada alef liner notes hi! this is my first posting to zorn-list. i'm a bit nervous... i recently bought masada alef (diw 888) and was taunted by some very thoughtful-looking liner notes, in japanese! does anyone know where i can find an english translation of these notes? thanks, robert turner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:38:54 -0400 (EDT) From: ak515@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Polak) Subject: Re: Naked City in commercials Reply to message from chhst9+@pitt.edu of Wed, 30 Jul > >Don't they all sound alike? :^) The Nike commercial used one of the short >grindcore-like pieces from _Torture Garden_. I'm afraid at this late date >that's the best I can do. > If I remember correctly, it was "Igneous Ejaculation" that was used for the Nike commercials. When they were out it thought it was strange to hear Zorn's opposite-of-mainstream music with the worlds largest athletic shoe maker. - -- "Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined." - S.G. "I had a great idea this morning, but I didn't like it." - S.G. "I excercise extreme self control, I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast" - W.C. Fields ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:46:52 -0700 From: "pjm" Subject: Re: Naked City in commercials > > Reply to message from chhst9+@pitt.edu of Wed, 30 Jul > > > >Don't they all sound alike? :^) The Nike commercial used one of the short > >grindcore-like pieces from _Torture Garden_. I'm afraid at this late date > >that's the best I can do. > > > If I remember correctly, it was "Igneous Ejaculation" that was used for the > Nike commercials. When they were out it thought it was strange to hear > Zorn's opposite-of-mainstream music with the worlds largest athletic shoe > maker. The toon used in the Sega commercial was from Zorn's "Naked City", but i can't remember which toon. It was one of the really fast hardcore sort of numbers. I'll listen to the cassette and see if i can figure which one it was, but it was several years ago.... pjm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:05:59 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: Re: Herb Robertson Somebody asked about Herb Robertson. I have a nice disc called "Shades of Bud" (?) by a six-piece group called something like the Herb Robertson Brass Ensemble (or ... Project?) on JMT. Sorry I can't remember many accurate details. Arrangements of tunes by Bud Powell and one standard indelibly associated with him. Baron is on drums, and the other five are brass (John Clark? Frank Lacy?) Full details next week, I promise. Also, Hywel has a funky live disc (also on JMT) called X-Cerpts, with Berne and Baron and vibes (?) and bass. Sean "Stop that crazy boppin' and a-stoppin' and play that jive like the rest of us guys" - Fats Waller, namimg "bop", according to Oran "Hot Lips" Page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 11:59:25 -0400 From: "Andy Marks" Subject: Praxis Live Anyone know where I could mail order the live Praxis album? - ------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Marks Software Engineer MTS-PowerTek, Inc. - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:11:23 PDT From: "David Brunelle" Subject: Content-Type: text/plain Just an addition to the question I posted a few days back, regarding Sonny Sharrock's playing on "A Tribute to Jack Johnson" : I was looking through one of those Muze(?) machines in a store yesterday, and saw that on Columbia's new remastered version of the album, Sonny is credited among the players. I hope that his estate will get royalties. At the very least the credit has now been given. Dave Brunelle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:11:55 PDT From: "David Brunelle" Subject: Content-Type: text/plain Just an addition to the question I posted a few days back, regarding Sonny Sharrock's playing on "A Tribute to Jack Johnson" : I was looking through one of those Muze(?) machines in a store yesterday, and saw that on Columbia's new remastered version of the album, Sonny is credited among the players. I hope that his estate will get royalties. At the very least the credit has now been given. Dave Brunelle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:38:45 -0700 From: Fred Hodshon Subject: SF Bay Activities? Hullo der, I'll be travelling to the bay area every week (Monday & Tuesday) for the next few months. Anyone know of zornish activities or places that I can visit while I'm there? Maybe a decent used record store or underground comic shop? Also, does anyone know the value of naked city's torture garden vinyl lp? I'm looking for GONG's flying teapot on the french BYG label. Ciao bellas, Fred hodshon HI ALLEN H!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:27:43 -0700 From: mike burma Subject: Saw Copy of Bible Launcher in SF I saw a used copy of the recalled Tzadik Lunatic Fring release Bible Launcher in San Francisco yesterday at Aquarius Records. Can't recall the price, but it definitely wasn't at the Kollector Skum level...more like $12-14. Aquarius is a great local recordstore (check it out Fred) located at 1055 Valencia (415-647-2272) that has excellent taste in an eclectic variety of music (something most Zorn fans would appreciate) and sends out a real informative new arrivals list via email (aqua@sirius.com). Mike Burma - A Satisfied Customer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:02:11 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: SF Bay Activities? > I'll be travelling to the bay area every week (Monday & Tuesday) for the > next few months. Anyone know of zornish activities or places that I can > visit while I'm there? > > Maybe a decent used record store or underground comic shop? > the Luggage Store Gallery (1007 Market St, SF) has improv shows every Monday. The Yellow Room (2424 E 11th St, Oakland) has improv shows every Tues (& Thurs). Check the local weeklies for rock club listings. Amoeba Music in Berkeley is the best (new & used)record/CD store in the western Hemisphere. - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:13:09 -0400 From: Scott Gilliam Subject: Boston Madness Hello, I am going to Boston next week for the MacWorld conference. Luckily I get to stay there from this Saturday until Saturday. Can someone give me a run down on the fun improv/noise/avant garde scene there (if there is one). And hey, if anybody knows who Alien Skin is and/or if you're going to MacWorld, stop by our booth (#5637). We'll have brightly colored hair, and we might hit you with a rubber alien! Bonk!! Thanks! Scott Gilliam CEO / Forklift Daddy ALIEN SKIN SOFTWARE, LLC Suite 101, 1100 Wake Forest Road Raleigh, NC 287604-1354 http://www.alienskin.com V: 919 832 4124 x126 F: 919 832 4065 ------------------------------ End of zorn-list Digest V2 #89 ****************************** To subscribe to zorn-list Digest, send the command: subscribe zorn-list-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-zorn-list": subscribe zorn-list-digest local-zorn-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date.