From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #1019 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, July 31 2000 Volume 02 : Number 1019 In this issue: - Masada - Live in Sevilla... Re: Zorn biography (continued) Zorn recommends!!!! RE: Dave Douglas' interview RE: Dave Douglas' interview Re: Odp: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck Live Komeda CDs on Polonia Sunday Meditational Quote britney/keiji/chan Re: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia new Otomo CD re: new Otomo CD Re: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck Odp: Panthalassa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Masada - Live in Sevilla... I had the wonderful privilege to see Masada Live in Montreal just a few weeks ago, and this new Live album reminds me of that particular show... In terms of the set list, interplay, sound quality, etc. Let me just say that I've got all the official Masada releases, and this album is possibly the best release to date! Certainly better than Jerusalem, Middleheim, Taipei, both in sound quality, song selections, and improvs, although I enjoy all those albums on their own terms... I personally think Masada 8 was the best studio release, and this new Live album ranks right up there. Nothing quite captures Masada Live unless you're there in person, but this new release is as close as it gets....... ...and Zorn's playing has never been more amazing.... Take care all... ===== - -That which is Theodorus "Good bye sober day, hello milky way..."www.freeyellow.com/members7/theodorus/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:31:06 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Zorn biography (continued) > That's it. I realise that Avant is not the name of Zorn's label, it's Tzadik. Avant is another of his labels though, he released most of the Naked City albums on it, and various interesting projects by his colleagues such as Dave Douglas. The recent tribute to Dave Brubeck was also released on Avant. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:08:11 PDT From: "John Schuller" Subject: Zorn recommends!!!! The Chidren of the One.... ümlaüt fanclub update #89--- ümlaüt is returning to the american studio today! We have recently escaped the clutches of our enemies at Megaforce Records and are now able to use our name again. We are recording under the masterful work of the newfound fourth leg--Der Randallaüt Dunnlaüt of America. He is a very good American. ümlaüt fanclub members are invited to our first American Rock Concert since being exiled from Germany. It will take place at the I-Spy in Seattle Washington in America. It is a very good American Concert Arena. August 7th @ 1921 5th Ave, Seattle. 9pm $5.... ümlaüt will be going on our fourth European tour in Roctober...with the Church of the Subgenius. The only church willing to listen to the Gospel of ümlaüt!!!! http://members.tripod.com/brokenmusick/umlaut.html Thank you America!!!! ümlaüt rocks you big way! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:38:07 -0300 From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: Dave Douglas' interview Hi Artur, Of course you can upload it. Even if you want, you can add these Dave's words on Misha. They were included in a paper note that was on every table in the pub (La Trastienda) where they played amazing, incredible, wonderful music. These are as follows: "Misha Mengelberg is one of the most important composer/pianist/philosophers of the last hundred years. It is an absolute thrill for me to be playing many of his compositions with. We will also be improvising together as well as possibly performing de- and re- constructions of pieces by Thelonious Monk and Herbie Nichols. Misha is a master of the spontaneous moment, so much of what happens will be an ever evolving event." Dave Douglas. I hope this helps and glad to let know Dave's opinions in your website. Later, Hugo Linares - -----Mensaje original----- De: Artur Nowak Para: Hugo Linares Fecha: Viernes 28 de Julio de 2000 03:25 AM Asunto: RE: Dave Douglas' interview >Hi Hugo, > >have fun listening to Dave and Misha! > >> Subject: Dave Douglas' interview > >I have a web-magazine dedicated to Dvae, Zorn, Frisell, and other >artists I admire, I thought your interview would be a very interesting >addition. Could I translate it into polish and upload to my website? >It's available at www.emd.pl > >Please let me know > >Take care > > __________________________________________________________________ > Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] www.emd.pl > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:13:00 -0300 From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: Dave Douglas' interview >Darn! I am discovered :-). Since you are here, Dave did not say more >about this recording session with Yuka? > > Patrice. Definitely not. Though he did a couple of interviews here in Argentina, one in a music radio show and two others in local newspapers, nobody asked him about Cibo Matto (sorry Patrice, I could have asked him). I guess he was known mostly as a "jazz musician" and because "Jazztimes" and "Down Beat" bla, bla, bla, bla... One more tidbit: as a listener I asked Dave on that radio show if he was planning to record a solo cd, regarding his version on Brubeck's "Nomad" (In his Own Sweet Way.- A Tribute to Dave Brubeck - Avant), and after a short laugh his answer was "no; no; it was funny and easy for five minutes but I prefer the bands." Last but not least: he really spoke in a very good Spanish in most of the interview. By the way, the show was terrific. Hugo (still amazed...and waiting for Bill Frisell) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:09:22 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Odp: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia In a message dated 7/28/00 5:00:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marcingokieli@go2.pl writes: << > Is anyone here familiar with the live stuff in the incredible 20 release _Complete..._ series on >Polonia? Looking for the best of the heap to get me inspired to investigate further... I do not know the series numbers... could you send me title etc. info? >> Sorry about the time lapse...here ya go- 2. Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 1 & 2 -- Live In Copenhagen . . . CD . . . 19.99 Polonia Records (Poland), 1965 (2CD) Condition: New Copy | View Cart 2CDs worth of live material by Polish jazz great Krzysztof Komeda, recorded during his most fruitful period! The set features material recorded by Komeda, Tomasz Stanko, and a young Michael Urbaniak during a stay in Copenhagen in 1965 -- and although the trio is backed by a Danish rhythm section, the sound is all their own, and the work of the two horn players is particularly strong. Urbaniak's tenor work here is very different than his later 70s fusion playing -- and it's got a wonderfully edgey style that reminds us of some of the best sax players that worked with Mingus during the late 50s and early 60s. Stanko's always been one of the most overlooked trumpet players of the European scene -- and his playing here has a moody atmospheric quality that is part Miles Davis late 50s, part modernism of playings like Johnny Coles or Richard Williams. Komeda's great, as always -- and his piano leads the quintet through long readings of his own compositions, including "Repetition", "Sophia's Tune", "Kattorna", "Crazy Girl", and "Dwojka Rzymska". The sound quality of the original recording is perhaps a bit too live, but the music is excellent, and the set is an essential addition to the Komeda catalog! (This item is found on the Jazz CD (F-L) page.) 3. Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 3 & 4 -- Live At Jazz Jamboree . . . CD . . . 19.99 Polonia Records (Poland), 1963/65 (2CDs) Condition: New Copy | View Cart The Jazz Jamboree festival was one of Europe's greatest meeting places for jazz talents in the 60s -- and although it was held in Poland, and never received as much coverage and backing as some of the Western European festivals, it also had the great fortune of being very regularly recorded, which means that we've got some fantastic audio documents of the excellent performances that took place over the years! This 2CD set features classic work by Polish jazz great Krzysztof Komeda -- with one disc from the year 1963, and another from 1965. You've heard us rave about Komeda's work on these pages elsewhere, and this set is no exception to our great love of his music. Both concerts are archly modern, with the kind of angular experimentation that we'd attribute to classic Ornette, Mingus, or Joe Harriott. And like those more famous leaders, the live performances of Komeda's group were always worth searching out -- as the strength of the group meant that they were always taking chances, always breaking out, always exploring new areas in their live performances. The 2CDs only feature a total of 5 songs in all, but they're all wonderfully expanded versions of some of Komeda's best jazz compositions -- including "Dwojka Rzymska", "Astigmatic", and "Kattorna". (This item is found on the Jazz CD (F-L) page.) 4. Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 5 -- Astigmatic Live . . . CD . . . 11.99 Polonia Records (Poland), 1965 Condition: New Copy | View Cart Great stuff from this legendary figure in Polish jazz! "Astigmatic" was one of Komeda's greatest compositions ever -- an angular emotional workout that reminds us of the best late 50s work by Mingus, or of Jackie McLean's immediate pre-"new thing" sessions, like A Fickle Sonance. The track has a jaunty feel, with kind of a stop/start approach that moves inside and out, but always manages to swing at the right moments. Komeda and his group perform a 20 minute long live version of the track here -- recorded at the Monmartre Jazz Club in Copenhagen -- and they also play long versions of Komeda's "Kattorna" and "Svantetic", both excellent tracks as well. The group includes the legendary Tomasz Stanko on trumpet, Rune Carlsson on drums, and a young Michael Urbaniak on tenor. The contents are the same as on the other Power Brothers CD of live Astigmatic recordings from 1965 -- but the packaging is different, and the CD does not have the enhanced CD rom of the other. (This item is found on the Jazz CD (F-L) page.) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck >The recent tribute to Dave Brubeck And what exactly do list members think of this album? And are there any indications that future installments of the "Great Jewish Music" series are in the pipeline? Why not Irving Berlin, for example? Zorn himself once wrote me that ain=B4t nothing more Jewish than "White Christmas= " or "Easter Parade" (?). All the best, Stephen - ----------- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Lena Berggren, PhD Department of Historical Studies University of Umea SE-901 87 Umea SWEDEN Lena.Berggren@histstud.umu.se Phone +46 (0)90 786 96 19 Mobile +46 (0)70 539 81 40 =46ax +46 (0)90 14 33 74 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:37:40 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia Hi, I thought you was looking for info, but apparently you have some good source of them.... My recommendation would be the studio 'astigmatic'. I've heard two live 2cds - in copenhagen and at jazz jamboree. Material is really OK, but the sound quality is rather low. I'd suggest studio recordings of Komeda's bands. Astigmatic is really incredible, really one of the v\best jazz records. The music has some structural quality, and compositions are very originals. I dot know much about the new edition, except As for other polish bands, there's not much of great stuff. The main player here is without doubt Tomasz Stanko. His recent records on ECM are really great. 'Litania' and 'matka joanna od aniolow' (maybe it has an english title, it's inspired by a polish film) are with a free quintet that includes scandinavian players. High quality. The last, with similiar instrumenatation to cgharms of the night sky (+drums), is also very good. There was a band called milosc, which used to play some nice stuff. They have made two albums with Lester Bowie. I've only heard the live one, which was OK, but not that great. NEver heard the studio recordings that were released few months ago (maybe someone here did?). Of course, there's the incredible Mala Rzecz a Cieszy project (now reduced to a duo - some Marcin Gokieli on voacls, words, synths, piano, electronics and AM radio, and Mikolaj Hernik on reeds and electronics - with guests on various instruments and vocalists to read the texts), that migrated from weird jazz to non-idiomatic improv and compositions. But no recordings are available... despite the fact that somegood stuff was recorded. ;-) Marcin Gokieli marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:30:24 -0700 From: "s~Z" Subject: Sunday Meditational Quote The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage perhaps in music, because that art contains no material to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value, and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses. --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:37:20 -0400 From: Lang Thompson Subject: britney/keiji/chan FE says that the new album from Keiji Haino's band Aihiyo includes a cover of "Satisfaction" which makes the third this year alongside Britney Spears and Cat Power. Who'd a thunk it? LT - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm "Where Do You Want to Go Today" Somewhere you can never take me! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:30:53 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia there's a long Komeda piece here, reviewing a bunch of his discs: http://motion.state51.co.uk/features/komeda/ Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:47:32 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: new Otomo CD a new Otomo CD showed up at Other Music this week, Music for DanceArt Hong Kong's "Memory Disorder" (Sonic Factory). it's divided into two parts, the first being 24 one minute pieces collectively titled Vinyl Tranquilizer No. 2, and the second being a 27 minute piece called Memory Disorder No. 6. the one minute tracks seem a little hit or miss to me once removed from the dances I assume they were composed for, but the long track is one of the best things I've heard from Otomo, a really nicely flowing piece. I'm not sure where Other Music (www.othermusic.com) got them from, since it wasn't on the new Forced Exposure release list, but they're only 14 bucks, not bad for a full-length Hong Kong import. recommended. the recent 3 inch CD by Sachiko M., Debris (Sound Factory) is also highly recommended, easily the most accomplished solo work I've heard from her yet. and to finish out a troika of sine wave suggestions, the new Zbigniew Karkowski 3 inch on Mego, IT, is superb. it made me think of what I keep hoping I'll hear from Francisco Lopez, but never seem to. plus all 1000 copies have different covers, which I think is pretty cool. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:40:53 -0400 From: Taylor McLaren Subject: re: new Otomo CD MEEP! JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: >the one minute tracks seem a little hit or miss to me once removed from >the dances I assume they were composed for, but the long track is one of the >best things I've heard from Otomo, a really nicely flowing piece. For what it's worth, I don't think that it's all that likely that the Vinyl Tranquilizer No.2 tracks were actually meant to accompany dances of any sort, at least not if the title is any indication. The original _Vinyl Tranquilizer_ (a collection of "1minute, concentrated 1vinyl experimental record" tracks, as the jacket says) was meant as a tongue-in-cheek bit of sleep-inducing music, which I can't see working too well as material for a dance troupe. On the other hand, if I'm not completely off my gourd, I think that the original _Memory Disorder_ *was* written as dance accompaniment, so this latest disc is probably a collection of extra bits and pieces that somebody decided to stick together to round out a full release. - -me - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:10:12 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck Stephen Fruitman wrote: > And are there any indications that future installments of the "Great Je= wish > Music" series are in the pipeline? Why not Irving Berlin, for example? = Zorn > himself once wrote me that ain=B4t nothing more Jewish than "White Chri= stmas" > or "Easter Parade" (?). You're not the first to mention Berlin, and I think it's a dandy idea. When I spoke to Zorn at a club a few weeks ago he mentioned in passing that he was considering the music of four self-described "mooks" from Queens. He= re's a hint: "HEY! HO! LET'S GO!" And while we're on the subject, a while back there was an entire joking t= hread on doing a Kiss tribute and I sent to the list a potential track list. S= ince then my PC has died and I lost absolutely everything on it. So, not to flatter myself with such thoughts, but does ANYONE out there still have a copy of my "Great Jewish Music: Stanley Eisen and Chaim Witz" tracklist? Woul= d love to have it again. Thanks, Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Michael Hedges, "Rickover's Dream," 'The Best of Michael Hedges' (Wi= ndham Hill) - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:45:32 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Panthalassa From: Neil H. Enet > Personally, I like the album very much. I don't know if it was a good > starting point, but it was my first Miles CD!!!! I was just starting to get Well... When i got it, i also liked it quite a bit. The idea is great: to find out what this 'early electronic funkjazz' would sound like with today' s technology. But - what can I say - the thing is OK, i do not have anything against it, but i listen to the original stuff much more. That music is so incredible... Just listen to 'black beauty' or 'dark magus' (as to live stuff), or 'get up with it' or 'on the corner' (the studio). Nobody has done such a thing since! Laswell's dubs do not even compare IMH(but sttrongly sustained)O. > But now that I know Miles a little bit more, I think it was a good starting > place, it really showed me a little bit of what Miles is all about. That can be true, it is an intersting and profound look at what that music consists in. You can also see what previous miles stuff is about through it. Surely better then some kind of 'best miles' etc. > I understand it includes never before heard music from those sessions, so I > don't see why the regular Miles fan doesn't approve it, in spite of the > reconstruction thing. BTW : maybe that's not the disc i'm talking about, I've got the first one, a second disc with more dub stuff was out later... Anyhow the same should apply ;-) Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl np Miles Davis - On the Corner Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #1019 ******************************** To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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