From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #727 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, August 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 727 In this issue: - Re: Feldman disc Re: $4.95 CDs: The End Re: new release of feldman on avant it's About Time Re: it's About Time Dolphy Charlie Mingus, Conlon Nancarrow articles toronto Re: laptops, etc: electroacoustic practicum Mingus info on Sunday, August 8th gig @tonic Re: Dolphy Re: toronto buck/horvitz Another White Noise update zorn improv 7/31 gigs? Re: Ground 0 Last Concert Re: zorn improv 7/31 Re: Dolphy Re: zorn improv 7/31 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:49:36 +0100 From: Nils Jacobson Subject: Re: Feldman disc Just to second what Patrice said, this is a very nice recording. I'm not so sure it's totally composed, but I'd use P's word "seamless" to describe the connections. I'm not so much a classical listener, but I could swear there were a few direct quotes from classical pieces. Think debussy/ravel and early 20th century classical. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Howes Subject: Re: $4.95 CDs: The End > << > I do take a little comfort in knowing that their attempt at 'promotion' > seems > to have become a public relations nightmare. > >> > > Similar situation here, I received 1 out of 20 discs I ordered, and the same > email yesterday. I sent them quite a flaming email back too - one, suggesting > that I thought a printed receipt was a binding contract and that they're > nicely set up for a class action lawsuit now, and 2, Something is up with what they are doing. Here's why. I placed 4 orders totaling over 100 CDs. I received 1 CD from the first two orders, 3 from the 3rd order and none from the last. They keep talking about distributor issues, which I say is a crock of shit. At least 10 of the CDs I ordered are brand new, major label releases. In other words, EVERY DISTRIBUTOR IN THE WHOLE WORLD HAS THEM. I can walk into any store, chain or not and get these CDs. Here is my guess as to what's going on. They got a database of releases someplace, offered those CDs, but only had one mediocre distributor. When they got overwhelmed by orders they realized that to go to a different distributor(s) meant they would lose tons of money. If they have to pay a distributor $3-6 for each CD yet sell them for $5 odds are they will lose money on it. So now they are backing out of their offer. I know their line about not having some of the CDs I ordered is total bull. Brand new major label releases? I would understand if my whole order was indie/more obscure releases, which it mostly was, but around 10 were new, easy to find, major label releases. The other strange thing in one of the emails I got from them was that it said they still have some CDs for sale for $4.99 and to go to their site and buy more??????? HUH!?!?!?!? mike mhowes@best.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:13:28 -0400 From: Dan Given Subject: Re: new release of feldman on avant > >On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:09:31 +0200 "Stefan Verstraeten" wrote: >> >> There seems to be a new release by mark feldman and a piano player on the >> avant label. >> >> Anybody knows what this release is, and what does it sound like? > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >116 - MUSIC FOR VIOLIN AND PIANO: Mark Feldman, Sylvie Courvoisier > > Recorded at Clinton Studios, New York City on December 23, 1998 > (1,8) recorded at Zurich DRS on June 15, 1996 > Produced by Sylvie Courvoisier and Mark Feldman > > Sylvie Courvoisier: piano; Mark Feldman: violin. > > 1999 - Avant (Japan), Avan 065 (CD) > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >It is a great record of wonderfully interpreted chamber music. The music, I >guess totally composed, wanders from post-romantic to more contemporary/avant, >and this in an almost seamless way. The range of music genres covered makes it >feel like a kind of recital covering 150 years of music, although all composi- >tions are by Sylvie and Mark. > > Patrice. > Hmm, for some reason, I was under the impression that there is a lot of improvising on this album, based on the way that Feldman, in particular, covers so much ground in each piece. I may be wrong. Mabybe someone should ask him. Anyway, I'll second Patrice's recommendation wholeheartedly. Courvosier is new to me, and quite a discovery. Lots of dense, thundering left-hand, mixed with upper register tinkling. Feldman, as I already mentioned, covers everything, and shows why he has been such a highly sought fter player. One track, I can't remember which, subtly brings in his country roots while still maintaining the contemporary/avant feel. Beautiful album. Dan - -------------------------------------------------------- Lisa Given Doctoral Student Ph.D. Program in Library & Information Science Faculty of Information & Media Studies The University of Western Ontario Middlesex College London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5B7 tel: 519-661-2111 x8481 fax: 519-661-3506 email: lgiven1@julian.uwo.ca - -------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:52:12 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: it's About Time an update to the discussion that was going on here a few weeks back, regarding the reissues on CD of the About Time label, including some vintage Threadgill titles. I was handing in the master and artwork for my first CD today, and I asked the guy what other labels they handled. he recited a list, and then he said "About Time". so I asked him about it, and he said they just delivered the first five CDs to them. so they should be showing up pretty soon, not sure what titles. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:46:21 -0400 From: Alan E Kayser Subject: Re: it's About Time I have inquired about these discs through Cadence/North Country, only to be told, "Yes, they have been 'released' but 'no' we don't have them yet and aren't sure when we will get them." This has been going on for some time. Joe Morris has one of the recordings coming out, with a larger group than he usually uses, I believe it's a sextet. Joe told me this was going to be released in January, 1999. Maybe he meant January, 2000. There are five albums, the two Threadgill's, the Joe Morris (hooray) and two others that are unknown to me. Ronald Shannon Jackson's is not coming out at this time (booo). Alan E Kayser JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: > an update to the discussion that was going on here a few weeks back, > regarding the reissues on CD of the About Time label, including some vintage > Threadgill titles. > > I was handing in the master and artwork for my first CD today, and I asked > the guy what other labels they handled. he recited a list, and then he said > "About Time". so I asked him about it, and he said they just delivered the > first five CDs to them. so they should be showing up pretty soon, not sure > what titles. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:52:28 EDT From: Nvinokur@aol.com Subject: Dolphy LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:58:54 -0400 From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Charlie Mingus, Conlon Nancarrow articles Greetings, In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever , you'll find (among other things): CHARLIE MINGUS An appreciation: 1960-1964 CONLON NANCARROW Personality & polyphony: his life and music We're always looking for good material so let us know if you have any writing or ideas for upcoming issues. See you online, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:13:02 -0400 From: wee billy pushkin Subject: toronto i'm going to toronto later this month to see tom waits, and while i'm there i would like to stop at a few record stores. i'm especially interested in any store that might have a decent selection of japanese imports. any pointers are much appreciated. - -a. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:19:36 -0700 From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: laptops, etc: electroacoustic practicum While there's no doubt that some of the use of Macintoshes by composer/performers is a vestigial remnant of the period in the 1980s when there was virtually no useful music software for PCs of any kind, a substantial number of the folks who use Macs for real-time electronic work use software to do things you still can't do on PCs. For someone who's just running MIDI sequences or playing back digital audio files, any computer will do. but for high-end computer-assisted composing/performing, interactive improvising, etc. the PC world does not have many options, and those that are available are nowhere near industrial strength. The program MAX, which is a remarkably flexible modular program that allows for extremely complex interactive algorithmic structures - it's used by lots of folks from Carl Stone to Elliott Sharp - is available for Mac &, I think, Linux/UNIX, but not for Windows, & it's unlikely ever to get ported over.The software coming out of STEIM in Amsterdam (LiSa, Lick Macine, etc) is also Mac only. Bests, Herb Herb Levy herb@eskimo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:30:07 EDT From: Nvinokur@aol.com Subject: Mingus In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever , you'll find (among other things): CHARLIE MINGUS An appreciation: 1960-1964 CONLON NANCARROW Personality & polyphony: his life and music - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:45:39 -0400 From: picnic thisway Subject: info on Sunday, August 8th gig @tonic I received the following press release which some of you might be interested in... > IMMEDIATE RELEASE >=20 > Sunday, August 8th > @ tonic, 107 norfolk st. (bet. delancey x rivington) > 212.358.7503 or http://www.tonic107.com > Adv. Ticket avail @Other Music, 15 E. 4th St. 212.477.8150 > or http://www.ticketweb.com > > Special event:[electroluxe] - triple bill! - 8 p.m. sharp=20 >=20 > [electroluxe] presents very special night with various configurations o= f > electronic music. > featuring.. >=20 > =95pita (Peter Rehberg) of mego from Vienna, Austria. (only solo > appearance in the U.S.!) check also... http://www.mego.at/about.html > "Peter Rehberg aka Pita's first album, "Seven Tons For Free" was a > monumental piece which was decisive in the direction that Mego took as = a > label thereafter. Devoid of any element of ornamentation, the album > featured endless repetitions of high frequency digital noises. Quite > unlike "minimal techno", all the sounds in this piece were reduced to > pulse signals, distorted to unheard of extremes. Along with albums such > as Panasonic's "Vakio" and Ryoji Ikeda's "+/-", this album came to be > known as a manifesto-like masterpiece." ~ note from SONAR '99 by Atsush= i > Sasaki >=20 > =95Ikue Mori & Jim O'Rourke of moikai, Chicago=20 > Two most distinguished & wildest composers/improvisors in the world mee= t > here to perform duo, first time ever!=20 >=20 > =95DJ Olive the audio janitor/Toshio Kajiwara/Raz Mesinai > 3 most influencing composers from underground DJ culture in New York > found the way to form new project together. This night marks its > debut! >=20 > pita & Ikue Mori are recipients of award of distinction from Prix Ars > Electronica, '99 to be presented in early September, this year. >=20 > plus... opening muzak by blaat of pitchbrite. > ********************************************************************** > end.) p.t. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:30:03 +0200 From: "Bza" Subject: Re: Dolphy Yes and we've got to thank Mr Saul for this one I think ! Bravo Alan Bza > LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY > A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that > leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be > released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records. > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:03:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: toronto On Yonge Street the big stores are Tower, HMV and the local Sam The Record Manb, which is the best , with the best slection. Also try Rotate This on Queen Street. And ask the folks at Sam's and Rotate if they have any further suggestions. Ken Waxman On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, wee billy pushkin wrote: > i'm going to toronto later this month to see tom waits, and while i'm > there i would like to stop at a few record stores. i'm especially > interested in any store that might have a decent selection of japanese > imports. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:34:47 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: buck/horvitz I read in a brief bio of Australian drummer Tony Buck (Peril, Ground Zero, The Necks, Kletka Red, etc.) that he had worked with Wayne Horvitz. Does anyone know what project they may have done together? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:19:25 +0100 From: "Scott" Subject: Another White Noise update WHite Noise has just been updates with a host of events for the forthcoming Edinburgh Festival and a few new reviews including discs from Kali Records and Bonehouse. Thanks for looking. Scott Russell White Noise For experimental events in Scotland http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 99 15:58:00 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: zorn improv 7/31 The improv session at Tonic last night was beautiful -- more jazz driven than many I've seen (and I think the first time I've seen JZ send the same combo up twice in a row, with Ikue Mori and Susie Ibarra's duet). High point for me was Ikue and Larry Och's duo. The ensemble also included JZ, of course, and Brigan Krauss joining near the end, and a guitarist and bassist I didn't know. Can anyone provide names? background? Also, can anyone school me on the fella playing in the Zorn-curated concert at Castle Clinton this Thursday? I think his name is something like Lois Vlerck (I don't have my calendar with me, unfortunately). Also on the bill are Leo Smith and Ikue Mori. Are these solo sets? Thanx kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:01:37 +0300 From: "Bumpkin records/Noise Front tapes" Subject: gigs? Hello, is there any (J. Zorn related) scheduled gigs from 22nd August till 1st September 1999 in the following towns: - -Amsterdam - -Stockholm - -Goetenburg ??? if anybody knows please let me know. Thanx K.H. kalashjikov@geocities.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:27:58 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Ground 0 Last Concert In a message dated 7/27/99 12:31:08 PM, wyork@email.unc.edu writes: << If you've had a chance to hear this could you please fill us in on how it is? >> well, I just played it for the first time, and I like it a lot. it's three tracks, 72 minutes. the first two, which last about a half-hour, seem to be in roughly in the style of the first record, albeit with a much expanded lineup. the last track is a 41 minute version of Consume Red, which sticks to the original for a while, building slowly around the hojok sample, but ends up pushing it out much farther than the studio version. a nice way for a band to go out. plus, I have the feeling it'll grow on me. it's pretty dense, and a lot to wrap my head around after one listen. in other Otomo news, check out the festival he's curating in Austria in November: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/4782/unlimited/deutsch-unltd99/prgvorlmain.htm Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:08:51 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: zorn improv 7/31 kurt_gottschalk@scni.com wrote: > Also, can anyone school me on the fella playing in the Zorn-curated concert at > Castle Clinton this Thursday? I think his name is something like Lois Vlerck (I > don't have my calendar with me, unfortunately). Also on the bill are Leo Smith > and Ikue Mori. Are these solo sets? Lois V. Vierk is a remarkably interesting post-minimalist composer whose works have been performed and recorded by Bang on a Can and the Kronos Quartet, among others. She's one composer who truly seems to be extending the techniques of Steve Reich in his early phase shift mode, and she also studied Japanese gagaku court music for 12 years. One choice composition I've heard is "Red Shift," and she also composed the titular composition on Seth Josel's OO Disc CD "Go Guitars," which I've not heard. According to her own website at Jim Pugliese's Noise Bar, this will be a performance of her new string quartet "River Beneath the River, " the title of her upcoming CD on Tzadik. Check it out at http://www.webcom.com/jimp/vierk.html Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:18:24 +0200 From: "Jeroen de Boer" Subject: Re: Dolphy Hi, I took a look at the BlueNote website, but they don't mention anything. Can you give more info? For instance recording date, featured musicians etc? Thanks, Jeroen > LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY > A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that > leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be > released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records. > > - > > Jeroen de Boer student Arts & Arts Management University of Groningen, The Netherlands J.T.de.Boer@let.rug.nl program director Open Electronic Festival Munnekeholm 10 9711 JA Groningen, The Netherlands phone: 031 (0) 50-3637513 fax: 031 (0) 50-3632209 usva-th1@bureau.rug.nl - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeni Dahmus Subject: Re: zorn improv 7/31 On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 kurt_gottschalk@scni.com wrote: > The improv session at Tonic last night was beautiful -- more jazz driven than > many I've seen (and I think the first time I've seen JZ send the same combo up > twice in a row, with Ikue Mori and Susie Ibarra's duet). High point for me was > Ikue and Larry Och's duo. The ensemble also included JZ, of course, and Brigan > Krauss joining near the end, and a guitarist and bassist I didn't know. Can > anyone provide names? background? I think the bassist was John Lindberg. Check out: www.johnlindberg.com. The classical guitarist must have been a replacement for Erik Friedlander. Since I was looking forward to hearing him, the line-up change was a disappointment. I don't know anything about the guitarist. Due to the nature of the instrument, much of her playing could not be heard, even with amplification. As a classical guitarist myself, this is a constant frustration. I would like to hear her in a solo setting. Does she have any solo recordings? Jeni - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #727 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. 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