From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #858 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, February 23 2000 Volume 02 : Number 858 In this issue: - No Zorn Content - Travel Advice Sought frith, black, frisell Re: frith, black, frisell now i've really seen it all frith&ensemble modern Re: frith, black, frisell Re: frith&ensemble modern Re: Dave Douglas: Witness Re: Dave Douglas: Witness Re: Cd Purchase RE: frith, black, frisell Frith lineup OT: Amy Denio- Birthing Chair Blues New Potlatch releases Dave Douglas music for dance? RE: Dave Douglas music for dance? Re: Dave Douglas music for dance? help with Masada 10 (YOD) it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) Re: help with Masada 10 (YOD) army of me ---> mingus rec's Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:06:55 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: No Zorn Content - Travel Advice Sought Dear Zornies: You're a worldly and well-travelled lot, so I can think of worse lists upon which to ask the following questions: 1. What's absolutely essential to experience on a visit to Istanbul (and I damn sure don't mean record stores)? 2. What other towns in Turkey are unmissable? 3. Most far-fetched of all, how easy or difficult is it for a Westerner (and specifically an American) to travel from Istanbul to Esfahan in Iran? I know there are regular bus connections, but what are the visa issues with which I'll need to cope? Thanks for your time, and please, for the sake of the group, *private* responses only. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com (obviously planning spring vacation, and bug-eyed from spending the last hour on the Lonely Planet site...) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: Hywel Davies Subject: frith, black, frisell anyone have details of the new fred frith release "traffic continues" on winter and winter? (do they have a web-site?). jim black will be recording an album for winter and winter this month - anyone know who else will be on it? there will be a frisell quintet gig broadcast on bbc radio 3 on saturday (11.30 gmt); don't know if it'll be a net braodcast , but you could try to listen at www.bbc.co.uk/radio3... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:33:43 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: frith, black, frisell At 06:57 AM 2/17/00 -0800, Hywel Davies wrote: >anyone have details of the new fred frith release >"traffic continues" on winter and winter? (do they >have a web-site?). Patrice's discography lists Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, and the Ensemble Moderne. Amazon has track listings, samples, and a release date of March 14. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:23:58 -0800 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: now i've really seen it all http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=ps&item=262149525 Is this for real? A Zorn *mousepad*?? Later, Ben np: bogdan raczynski, "samurai math beats" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:24:05 +0100 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: frith&ensemble modern > Patrice's discography lists Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, and the Ensemble > Moderne. Is it the german Ensemble Modern that played on Zappa's Yellow Shark? A great ensemble. I found their recording of George Crumb's music recently - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:19:47 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: frith, black, frisell Hywel Davies wrote: > winter and winter? (do they > have a web-site?). http://www.winter-winter.njetwork.de/ > jim black will be recording an album for winter and > winter this month - anyone know who else will be on > it? Alas No Axis is the group name, and I think the recording's just been done. The following is excerpted from an e-mail I got from Jim on Tuesday promoting the band's debut live gig this Saturday night at Tonic: ===== Fresh from recording in the woods, Jim debuts his latest Iceland/Seattle blending, which some could describe as "small-prov-song chop" or "semi-stoic, lo-res polyphonic, micro-electronic hard crawl." Featuring Hilmar Jensson (guitar), Skuli Sverrisson (bass), Chris Speed (tenor sax) and Jim Black (drums). Look for their cd, out this summer on Winter and Winter Recordings. ....thank you Hilmar Jensson currently lives in Iceland and has composed music and recorded numerous cd's for the new music/electronic ambient label Bad Taste. Skuli Sverrisson, also a native Icelander, is currently recording a series of duo cd's with electronic composer Anthony Burr for Staalplaat, and has recorded a solo prepared bass cd on the Extreme label, "Seremonie". Chris Speed, from Seattle, is currently leading his band "Yeah, No" through a tour of the mid-west states in March, as well as recording his third cd for the Songlines label. Jim Black, also from the NW, leads another project called "Beat Table" and co-leads the band Pachora- their third cd "Ast" (Knitting Factory) was just released. ===== Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Talk Talk, "Inheritance,' 'Spirit of Eden' (EMI) (just home from a strange and sprawling post-midnight set at Tonic by Tim Berne's Composure - Tony Malaby, Marc Ducret, Craig Taborn and Tom Rainey - one tune only, a 50-minute version of the new "Sketches of Pain," but I'm far too exhausted to say anything meaningful... over to you, Dan Hewins...) - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:45:11 CET From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Re: frith&ensemble modern >From: "Marcin Gokieli" >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:24:05 +0100 > > > Patrice's discography lists Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, and the Ensemble > > Moderne. >Is it the german Ensemble Modern that played on Zappa's Yellow Shark? A >great ensemble. I found their recording of George Crumb's music recently yes it is... Andreas Dietz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:34:21 +0100 From: otto.siegfried@t-online.de (otto) Subject: Re: Dave Douglas: Witness Hi everybody, the D.D. compositions are a work comissioned by the "Donaueschinger Musiktage" and German radio "SWR2" and have been premiered (and broadcast in full!) on October 15, 1999. The title was: Dave Douglas New Chamber Music - Speaking Truth to Power / New Protest Music. Traders welcome. Best, Siegfried - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:43:50 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Dave Douglas: Witness Talking about Dave Douglas. SOUL ON SOUL gets special recognition in the March issue of CMJ!!! Groupies screaming to get backstage passes should be around the corner :-). Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:48:39 -0500 From: Otis Wheeler Subject: Re: Cd Purchase >Tom Gatzen wrote: > > > 5- USA Concerts East (bradfield, Centazzo, Chadbourne, > > Cora, Kondo, Ladonna Smith, Davey williams, Jack > > Wright, Zorn > >Does anyone know of any other CD's that Jack Wright is on? One of my >friends has played with him, and I hope to play with him soon as well. >Apparently, Jack didn't even know he was on this CD until my friend >showed it to him. I haven't been able to find any other CD's of/with >him. Any suggestions? www.forcedexposure.com carries a couple. And I was at a Nmperign show at Flywheel in Easthampton, MA a few months ago, just a few days before Wright was to be playing Flywheel, and I think I remember Greg or Bhob saying one of them was on a CD with Jack, or they were going to be on an upcoming CD with Jack. I could be making that up in my head, but it's what I remember. Otie np: Trad, Gras och Stenar: Filialen - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:24:28 +0100 From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: RE: frith, black, frisell Hi Philozorners, > Patrice's discography lists Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, and > the Ensemble > Moderne. Amazon has track listings, samples, and a release > date of March 14. The track listing and samples at amazon.com is wrong, the information they show is about Dave Douglas' "Songs for Wandering Souls". Fred doesn't play trumpet yet ;-) __________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak [arno AT emd.pl] www.emd.pl - Discography of Bill Frisell - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:09:54 +0100 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Frith lineup Artur Nowak wrote: > The track listing and samples at amazon.com is wrong, the information > they show is about Dave Douglas' "Songs for Wandering Souls". Fred > doesn't play trumpet yet ;-) So who plays on the new frith CD? Be well, Marcin "Oh Nick, I had the strangest dream! I thought - how could I know what I was never tought?" Stravinsky/Auden "The Rake's Progress" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:24:38 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: OT: Amy Denio- Birthing Chair Blues I'm considering a trade for this CD- anyone care to throw a couple of descriptive sentences, yays or nays on this Knitting Factory Records release? - -- np: Cuncussion Ensemble- Stampede =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:31:19 +0100 (CET) From: Oger Subject: New Potlatch releases New Potlatch releases are available now. - - "La Piece" by Xavier Charles (clarinet) and Kristoff & K'Roll (electroacoustic devices) - Recorded by Francois Dietz in Vandoeuvre CCAM studio in 1999. (Potlatch 199) - - "Outcome" by Derek Bailey (guitar) and Steve Lacy (soprano sax) - Recorded live by Jean-Marc Foussat in Paris in june 1983. (Potlatch 299) Jacques Oger and Jean-Marc Foussat from the Potlatch team. Potlatch BP 205 75921 Paris Cedex 19 France Website : http://www.potlatch.digiweb.fr - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:06:08 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Dave Douglas music for dance? The following was in the March issue of JAZZIZ: "[...] In addition, the label's [RCA Victor] classical division plans to issue music composed by Douglas for the choregrapher Patricia Brown (possibly in icia Brown (possibly in DVD format, to allow listeners to view the dance)." Does anybody have more info? Thanks, Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:44:31 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: Dave Douglas music for dance? > The following was in the March issue of JAZZIZ: > > "[...] In addition, the label's [RCA Victor] classical division > plans > to issue music composed by Douglas for the choregrapher Patricia > Brown (possibly in icia Brown (possibly in DVD format, to allow > listeners to view the dance)." > > Does anybody have more info? > > > Not related directly with this release (sorry Patrice!!) but to recommend Marc Wagnon's "An Afterthought" (Buckyballrecords, 1999), where D.Douglas and Ray Anderson play on a couple of tracks. Later, Hugo Linares - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:18:57 -0500 From: ssmith36@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Dave Douglas music for dance? Dave's second RCA Victor release will be a Charms of the Night Sky disc due out in October of this year. Part of the music will be "Five Part Weather Invention," a suite composed for the Trisha Brown Dance Company, which features Charms onstage with the dancers. It has been performed here in the US and in Europe, most recently last weekend at the Kennedy Center in Washington DC, and coming to the Joyce Theater in NYC in May. I do know that high quality video footage from Europe does exist already, and there has been talk about releasing it commerically. But so far that talk is still in early stages, I believe. Dave is already working on another piece for Trisha, which I believe will be scored for Greg Tardy, James Genus and Susie Ibarra. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com (posting from work during lunch hour...) "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote: > The following was in the March issue of JAZZIZ: "[...] In addition, the label's [RCA Victor] classical division plans to issue music composed by Douglas for the choregrapher Patricia Brown (possibly in icia Brown (possibly in DVD format, to allow listeners to view the dance)." Does anybody have more info? Thanks, Patrice. - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:48:14 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: help with Masada 10 (YOD) To my great dispair, I realized that the description of YOD was incomplete... The missing info is: - duration of the tracks - recording info (date and location) - producer Any lucky owner willing to help? Thanks, Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:00:34 +0100 From: patRice Subject: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) hey, fellow zornsters! it's really been rather quiet on the list recently, hasn't it? so let me put in a few recommendation requests. essential charles mingus recordings? essential charlie yardbird parker recordings? (with - if they exist - good sound quality.) can anyone recommend any books he/she has read lately? hadn't we once started getting into book recommendations a while ago? looking forward to your mails! thanks a lot for your help! yours, patRice stuff i enjoy listening to@the moment: the cure "bloodflowers", marc almond "open all night", rodd keith "i died today", fields of the nephilim "nephilim", miles davis "miles in the sky" i recently read (and enjoyed): j.d. salinger "catcher in the rye", akimitsu takagi "the tattoo murder case", akimitsu takagi "honeymoon to nowhere", seicho matsumoto "inspector imanishi investigates", michael mccabe "new york city tattoo - the oral history of an urban art" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:26:16 -0500 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) patRice wrote: > essential charles mingus recordings? Virtually everything. My personal faves: Let My Children Hear Music Mingus Presents Mingus (w/Dolphy and Curson) Mingus Ah Um Mingus Dynasty Black Saint and the Sinner Lady Blues and Roots ...many many more. The only ones I'd hesitate about (aside from some fairly lousy boots, like 'Mingus with Orchestra' on Denon) are some of the later things which, imho, are hit and miss, like 'Mingus Moves', the two 'Changes' releases (a cold, steely sound on these two, I find), 'Me, Myself an Eye', etc. > can anyone recommend any books he/she has read lately? hadn't we once > started getting into book recommendations a while ago? Just back from vacation, where I polished off Borges' 'The Complete Fiction' (superb), Carl Hiasson's 'Sick Puppy' (lo-grade fun) and Gardner Dozois' 16th edition of 'The Year's Best Science Fiction', which I thought one of the strongest he's put out in many years. > akimitsu takagi "the tattoo murder case" I read this a few months ago and was mightily impressed, especially considering when it was written (around 1948, as I recall). Been meaning to get to other stuff of his. Brian Olewnick NP: Miles, 'Agharta' - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:27:48 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) I just finished this one book by Denis Johnson called Jesus' Son. It is wonderful writing. The book acts like a novella, a bunch of short stories that gel together to form a small novel. But his writing is amazing, it is very fresh, stream of consciousness, poetic writing. His subject matter is very current, lots of drugs and alcohol abuse and strange situations, semi nomadic, and self destructive. He reminds me of a modern day jack kerouac with a dark twist. I have not read any of his other work, but I have it on order at amazon. I just came off a mingus / rashaan Kirk kick, one I would suggest is Oh Yeah, mingus on piano and rashaan on various horns. I need some good quality Bird suggestions too, so let them fly. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:52:07 +0100 From: patRice Subject: Re: help with Masada 10 (YOD) hi patrice! i'll take the cd to work with me tomorrow (thursday), and send you all the details. yours, patRice (the other one...) Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > > To my great dispair, I realized that the description of YOD was > incomplete... The missing info is: > > - duration of the tracks > - recording info (date and location) > - producer > > Any lucky owner willing to help? > > Thanks, > > Patrice. > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:14:45 GMT From: "Scott Handley" Subject: army of me ---> mingus rec's > > essential charles mingus recordings? Hate to jump on the Fave Wagon, but I must strongly recommend two Mingus albums which seem to appeal to non-jazzbo friends as well: Mingusmingusmingusmingus (Impulse!) - fine medium-sized ensemble work with lots of kitsch and some beautiful Charles Mariano (??) alto spotlights. Just some of the best Ming ever. Sho hip. LIVE AT ANTIBES '60 (Atlantic) - Pretty sick live date without piano (Bud Powell---!---guests on a track, though); Eric Dolphy is nuts-beautiful, plus Booker Ervin, Ted Curson, and amazing Dannie Richmond. Stellar, and perhaps insane. This is the music Tom Cruise and his submissive mouse-heroine are trying to make love to in JERRY MCGUIRE. They fail to make love to this music. Shoot: it woulda been a better film. I also have deep,fond memories of BLACK SAINT AND SINNER LADY, which is the strange dark poem of this man;many of my less "jazzed" friends ain't into it, however. And since we're talking books, I should recommend Mingus' "autobiography" BENEATH THE UNDERDOG, which might be less fictional than either MILES or the new Ronald Reagan bio (which is a double hoot). Cheers, Esoteric Nation, - -----s ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:38:12 -0000 From: "Alastair Wilson" Subject: Re: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) Mingus: "New Tijuana Moods" does it for me, as does the Antibes recording mentioned before, and - if you can find it - "In A Soulful Mood" (Music Club), which despite it's dreadful title and bargain label origins, contains brilliant small group work originally recorded for Candid in 1960. Dolphy is brilliant on "Stormy Weather"... Mezz Mezzrow's "Really The Blues" is a great, if occasionally fictional, autobiography. Crap musician, but he could spin a yarn. My first submission to the list, so excuse any faux pas... Alastair - ----- Original Message ----- From: patRice To: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: it's oh so quiet!? (mingus / parker / books) > hey, fellow zornsters! > > it's really been rather quiet on the list recently, hasn't it? > > so let me put in a few recommendation requests. > > essential charles mingus recordings? > > essential charlie yardbird parker recordings? (with - if they exist - > good sound quality.) > > can anyone recommend any books he/she has read lately? hadn't we once > started getting into book recommendations a while ago? > > looking forward to your mails! > > thanks a lot for your help! > > yours, > patRice > > stuff i enjoy listening to@the moment: the cure "bloodflowers", marc > almond "open all night", rodd keith "i died today", fields of the > nephilim "nephilim", miles davis "miles in the sky" > > i recently read (and enjoyed): j.d. salinger "catcher in the rye", > akimitsu takagi "the tattoo murder case", akimitsu takagi "honeymoon to > nowhere", seicho matsumoto "inspector imanishi investigates", michael > mccabe "new york city tattoo - the oral history of an urban art" > > - > > - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #858 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. 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