From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #893 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, March 16 2000 Volume 02 : Number 893 In this issue: - New Sex Pistols Film Re: fire in the Sun Ra house Lisle Ellis in dire straits.. Joey Baron - Down Home RE: Joey Baron - Down Home Re: RUINS/brubeck Re: Caine, Bach & Gould RE: Caine, Bach & Gould Re: Caine, Bach & Gould Inside Out, S. Rivers, D.Cherry, I. Stravinsky Re: RE: Joey Baron - Down Home Re: Inside Out, S. Rivers, D.Cherry, I. Stravinsky Re: ruins Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #892 Joey Baron stuff Re: promo Ersthwile records [thewire] AMM play Scotland shock ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:22:21 +0100 (MET) From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: New Sex Pistols Film The comments of anyone who goes to see this film would be highly appreciated. All the best, Stephen THE FILTH AND THE FURY Directed by Julien Temple a Sex Pistols film "You can't create me, I am me." -- John Lydon Wednesday, 29 March The Film Forum 209 W Houston St, New York City - ----------------------- Richard Pettersson Department of History of Science and Ideas Ume=E5 University S-901 87 Ume=E5, Sweden Phone: +46 90 786 99 38 Telfax: 046 90 14 33 74 E-mail: Richard.Pettersson@histstud.umu.se - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:48:55 -0600 From: Moudry Subject: Re: fire in the Sun Ra house At 18:16 15-03-00 -0500, "Michael Berman" wrote: >EMERGENCY NOTICE: > >There has been a fire in the Sun Ra house and extensive damage resulted. The people are all right but help is needed to repair the building immediately. Please send donations to: Marshall Allen, 5626 Morton Street, Philadelphia, 19144. Also, if you can help rebuild or repair the building or contribute construction materials, supplies, or other resources, please call (212) 841-0899 and leave your coordinates so Marshall can get in touch with you. > Michael & Zornists, The above information is quite old; I'd imagine that the piece in the latest Signal to Noise may have been the source for it. Last Saturday the Arkestra did an evening at the Knit to earn some of the resources necessary to rebuild the House of Ra. The following is the announcement from the Concerts Area of my Saturn Web that gives the particulars for the event, as well as the basic facts about the fire: ============================================== The Arkestra @ The Knit Elson Nascimento do Santos announced that the Sun Ra Arkestra under the direction of Marshall Allen will appear at The Knitting Factory 74 Leonard Street New York City (5 blocks below Canal between Broadway & Church) on Saturday March 11, 2000. This event will be a benefit concert to raise some of the funds needed to fix the Arkestra house in Philadelphia that was damaged by a fire on January 16, 2000. Those who were expressing interest in supporting the Arkestra in defraying the large costs of fire damage repairs at the historic Arkestra house are encouraged to attend on March 11. Sun Ra Arkestra t-shirts and A Song For The Sun Arkestra CDs will also be sold at the event to help raise funds to fix the house. For additional information from the Knitting Factory, visit their website or call 212-219-3006. ============================================== Although the concert has passed, anyone wishing to buy a copy of the CD or enquire about the very nice tee-shirts might want to contact them. These are proud men who are trying to rebuild and get back to the vital work of keeping the Arkestra in existence; please respect their dignity. Hope this helps. Saturnally, Joe Moudry Office of Academic Computing & Technology School of Education, The University of Alabama @ Birmingham Master of Saturn Web (Sun Ra, the Arkestra, & Free Jazz): Producer/Host of Classic Jazz (Armstrong -> Ayler ->)on Alabama Public Radio: - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:07:43 -0500 From: "Joslyn Layne" Subject: Lisle Ellis in dire straits.. I hope people don't mind me posting this here.. i would certainly want to know after the wonderful performances i have seen from Ellis, so i'm assuming there are a few other like-minded on the list. you may know Ellis' bass playing from the What We Live group, with Larry Ochs [of Rova]. What We Live has several CD releases, mostly on soul note, i think, with guests like Dave Douglas... joslyn - ---------------------------- Subject: Help neccessary for bassist Lisle Ellis Sent: 3/12/20 2:53 AM Received: 3/15/00 8:52 AM From: Paul Plimley, plimley@iprimus.ca Urgent message for all people who know Lisle Ellis I am writing on Lisle Ellis' behalf to let people know that he is currently receiving emergency medical attention in San Francisco for liver and kidney malfunctions and is in need of any possible financial contribution that you can donate. At this moment in time, Lisle is living from a van in San Francisco (where he has lived since 1992) and is at present homeless. He has no telephone number where he can be reached. More to the point, he is in debt and is without any income at this time. Here is an excerpt from a recent E mail sent to me from him , dated March 7, 2000. .......My situation is CRITICAL. I need some $$$ to pay immediate medical bills and further medical expenses. that's excluding my day to day survival needs. right now i've my van to live in. i guess that is more than some have but knowing that dosen't help my spirits much or dosen't keep me any warmer at night. i'm accepting any donations that you or any others may offer. PLEASE let people know what is happening since i've no access to phone and only very limited access to email. (please pass along my email address). anyone who wants to help can do so so by making a deposit at any Toronto Dominion bank (based in Canada): US$ account #7134505 branch#4720 i really need your help in getting the word out there. thanks, l.e. Lisle's E mail address (a free hotmail address where he can check his mail from anyone's computer) is lislellis@yahoo.com. If you would like to verify the Toronto Dominion bank account of Lisle, here is a 1 800 # for Toronto Dominion bank for anyone interested: 1 800 983 2265. I assume that this tel. # is good for anyone dialing within North America. For those who do not know of Lisle Ellis on this E mail list, I apologize and do not expect any response from you. There are many on my E mail list who do know him and/or his music and it is to them that this letter is addressed. I thank all of you who have been touched by Lisle's music over the years and who care to offer any amount that you can afford. Yours sincerely, Paul Plimley E mail address plimley@iprimus.ca - ------------------------------------ Subject: Additional update for Lisle Ellis Sent: 3/20/20 1:43 PM Received: 3/16/00 8:35 AM From: Paul Plimley, plimley@iprimus.ca To all those who received a previous E mail yesterday from me, Many people have responded to the last E mail sent regarding Lisle Ellis and his current circumstance. Here is some additional information sent to me from Jed Bishop, trombonist from Chicago. This will help anyone who wishes to contribute to Lisle's present situation. His E mail is as follows: Hello Paul, I wired some money to Lisle's account based on the info you gave in your E mail, but some additional info is also necessary to make a money transfer to his account: the Toronto Dominion branch # is actually 47201 the bank's routing # is 026009593 the bank's institution # is 004 there is a "designation code" that may have to be prefixed to Lisle's account #; that code is 040 I got this info from the 1 800 number for the bank, but you may want to pass it on to anyone interested in making a wire transfer. Jeb Bishop For those of you who wish to mail a US money order or cheque in Lisle Ellis's name directly to me (I live only 7 blocks from a Toronto Dominion bank branch), here is my home address. A money order might be preferable to a cheque, since there will be no delay in the clearing time of a deposited cheque Paul Plimley 3016 Waterloo Street Vancouver, BC V6R 3J6 Canada Kind regards to all, Paul Plimley - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:50:58 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Joey Baron - Down Home This is a great album! Laid back traditional jazz stuff. Although someone said they'd never heard Frisell play so traditionally, try the "Songs We Know" CD with Frisell and Fred Hersch. I see the new Joey Baron album, do out this spring, has the same line up as "Down Home." This is a must have for a guy like me. ===== - -That which is Theodorus... "The way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason." www.freeyellow.com/members7/theodorus/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:51:10 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: Joey Baron - Down Home > It's a good all-around album. Very laid back, very mellow. And very > little > of Frisell's trademark twang. Actually, this is the most traditional jazz > guitar I've ever heard him play. You wouldn't guess it was Frisell > playing > if you had heard it before knowing he was on there. > > If you like what you heard, you won't be disappointed. The whole album is > very good, if not excellent. I also highly recommend Joey Baron's other > solo album, Raised Pleasure Dot. It's very odd but very fun. > > Tom > > [Linares Hugo] Seconded. Also Arthur Blythe is in great shape. You wouldn't guess it was Blythe playing unless you read the credits. As Tom recommends Raised Pleasure Dot, I'd recommend "Crackshot", with the same lineup, but different -musically speaking- from Down Home. Hugo - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:11:23 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: Re: RUINS/brubeck avant put out a brubeck tribute album with ruins, eric freilander, medeski martin and wood, sex mob, slow poke, dave douglas, uri caine trio, pachora, a duet with joey baron and tony scher, and a few others I am forgetting right now. Its a good album. If you like the players you will like the cd. >> > For too long I have ignored this band. Their version of Blue Rondo >> > ala Turk on the avant Brubeck tribute floored me. > >what is this? i haven't heard of it. who's on this? >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:10:13 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Caine, Bach & Gould On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:24:40 +0100 (MET) Stephen Fruitman wrote: > > recording of the piece. From the press sheet: "Bachīs music dallies in a > Leipzig cathedral, jumps out through the window and lands on a streetcorner > in New York, visits a Jewish wedding, spends some time in New Orleans, and > plunges into wild, free-form trumpeting before seeking refuge in blind > panic in the throbbing lights of a drumīnībass club." Isn't scarry? Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:40:52 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: Caine, Bach & Gould > > recording of the piece. From the press sheet: "Bach=B4s music = dallies in a > > Leipzig cathedral, jumps out through the window and lands on a > streetcorner > > in New York, visits a Jewish wedding, spends some time in New = Orleans, > and > > plunges into wild, free-form trumpeting before seeking refuge in = blind > > panic in the throbbing lights of a drum=B4n=B4bass club." >=20 > Isn't scarry? >=20 [Linares Hugo] =20 Did you mean "scary", Patrice? Or is it a new "slang" I've missed?=20 Hugo > Patrice. >=20 > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:50:06 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Caine, Bach & Gould On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:40:52 -0300 Linares Hugo wrote: > > > Isn't scarry? > > [Linares Hugo] > > Did you mean "scary", Patrice? > Or is it a new "slang" I've missed? Oops! I meant scary, of course. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:19:39 -0800 From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com Subject: Inside Out, S. Rivers, D.Cherry, I. Stravinsky "It takes a long time to be traditional musician, but a few minutes to be a free one.'' -- Sam Rivers, in a pretty good and fairly long interview in the new Downbeat. Continuing that thread: This morning I put on Don Cherry/Ed Blackwell ECM duet, El Corazon, for the first time in a few years. I had forgotten Cherry's facile, traditional piano rendition of Monk's Bemsha Swing -- surprised even. It's not just the critics that fall into these stereotypes.... Also, was listening to Stravinsky's Les Noces -- anybody else find this chorus plus percussion work reminiscent of Harry Partch (altho it precedes Partch).... Martin NP Dewey Redman -- Coincide - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:26:14 EST From: Velaires@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Joey Baron - Down Home I agree. CRACKSHOT is the best Joey so far, espec "Punt". skip h - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:31:38 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Inside Out, S. Rivers, D.Cherry, I. Stravinsky On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:19:39 -0800 Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com wrote: > > Also, was listening to Stravinsky's Les Noces -- anybody else find this > chorus plus percussion work reminiscent of Harry Partch (altho it > precedes Partch).... I might not have listened to the right Harry Partch because the comparison never came to me. I am a huge fan of LES NOCES and consider that this too often overlooked piece is one of the masterpieces of this century. I dream sometimes that people would give up on CARMINA BURANA and instead listen to LES NOCES... (or at least stop making statements about CARMINA BURANA until they have listened to LES NOCES). Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:48:02 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: Re: ruins On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Zorn List Digest wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:46:19 -0500 > From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com > Subject: ruinz > > others can be a pretty mixd bag. refusal fossil, on skin graft i think or some > other chicago label, is a live/outtake sorta comp, lot of it unnecessary unless > you're going completist. and if the magma overtones are hard for you to take (as > they are me a little and jon perhaps moreso) avoid sympohonica (on tzadik) at > all costs. 'refusal fossil' is the only ruins i have, and i think it is great. the lo-fi crap sound only enhances the experience for me. it does have a high prog-rock component (i think one of the later tunes is a prog-rock medley of some sort), though (which is no problem to my ears). i've heard two live bootlegs from 98 and 99, and they did not strike me as radically different from refusal fossil...which makes me curious about the other reccommendations being given on the list. whatever the case, i really enjoy refusal fossil. cheers, whit np - charles mingus, mingus mingus mingus mingus mingus - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:05:30 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #892 On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Zorn List Digest wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:26 -0700 > From: "Tom Johnson" > Subject: Re: Joey Baron - Down Home > If you like what you heard, you won't be disappointed. The whole album is > very good, if not excellent. I also highly recommend Joey Baron's other > solo album, Raised Pleasure Dot. It's very odd but very fun. For the record, Down Home has Frisell, Ron Carter, Joey Baron, and Arthur Blythe on Sax; it is very straightforward, as tom notes. Raised Pleasure Dot i *think* is by Baron's earlier group, Barondown, with Steve Swell on trombone and Ellery Eskelin on sax. Strange instrumentation for a fun trio. I'm not much of a fan of this band, but I know several people who love it. They have two (?) other albums, the names of which I forget. (There may be some other bands, too; I recall an album by Baron called 'crackshot' - maybe this is a Barondown album?) Finally, there's his more recent band consisting of Baron, John Medeski on organ, and Marc Ribot on guitar. There are several bootlegs of this band in action floating around, and this band is by far my favorite Baron-led band. I think they began as an all-improv unit (i heard one tape where they kept jokingly referring to every jam as 'song #1'), but 'real' songs with 'real' names somehow came to be. in that respect, 2L writes: > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:02:08 +0100 > From: 2L > Subject: Re: Joey Baron - Down Home > > And what about his latest solo album, "We'll soon find out"? > Because I saw Joey play at the Banlieues Bleues Festival (near Paris, Fra= > nce) > last week (with Ribot and Medeski) My question is, is the new album with ribot and medeski? and when is it released in the US? cheers, whit - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:14:59 -0500 From: Dan Hewins Subject: Joey Baron stuff >Finally, there's his more recent band consisting of Baron, John Medeski on >organ, and Marc Ribot on guitar. There are several bootlegs of this band >in action floating around, and this band is by far my favorite Baron-led >band. I think they began as an all-improv unit (i heard one tape where >they kept jokingly referring to every jam as 'song #1'), but 'real' songs >with 'real' names somehow came to be. I saw this band at the Knitting Factory recently and I also think they're a great band. Also my favorite Baron led band. They definitely had written music to play. I would say that there was a lot of improvisation in the music but every tune had a chart. (Even the 20-30 min. long droning piece that Joey introduced "...this one is for lovers...") Dan - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:52:06 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: promo Ersthwile records In a message dated 3/16/00 2:49:12 AM, Vuilleumier@micro.biol.ethz.ch writes: << any (succint) summary reviews, preferred items regarding Jon's (friendly) spam? >> don't hold back your opinions because I'm here, I'd love to hear the feedback, good or bad. I know at least a few of you out there have fairly complete Erstwhile collections. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:33:08 +0000 From: "Scott" Subject: [thewire] AMM play Scotland shock From: "Scott" April/May coming, Glasgow plays host to a couple of serious improvisation weekends under the stewardship of Evan Parker. Appearances by AMM, Barry Guy, Han Bennink, Alex Von Schlippenbach and many others. Initial details can be found under the news section at the url below. Scott Russell - -- White Noise For experimental events in Scotland http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAXIMIZE YOUR CARD, MINIMIZE YOUR RATE! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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