From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #42 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, September 1 2000 Volume 03 : Number 042 In this issue: - Re: George Russell TR give-away Re: George Russell Diamanda Galas ICMC CD for trade (NZC) NETWORK WDR catalogue RE: Comments on Raymond Scott? Zorn Taping Policy? Re: George Russell Re: Masada Live Re: Dead Reckoning Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? Thank you, thank you, thank you! (Louis Armstrong) "No Zorn Attitude" Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? Re: CD storage shelves RE: CD storage shelves Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? Re: For Alto Re: For Alto Re: CD storage shelves ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 02:03:10 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: George Russell In a message dated 9/1/00 1:07:08 AM, User384726@aol.com writes: << I was wondering if anyone had anymore recommendations for GR CD's. >> his Electronic Sonata For Souls Loved By Nature is one of my favorite Black Saint/Soul Note releases. there's a bunch of versions out, at least three that I know of, but my favorite is definitely the 1968 version, (as labelled on the cover, although for some reason it was recorded in 1969). Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 02:40:45 -0300 From: "Sh" Subject: TR give-away This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01C013BE.07FB5640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a Tim Reynolds solo acoustic show from '96 that I'm just gonna = give 'way on cassette. This is not the whole show. (I got the whole = show from someone else, hence is why I'm giving this one away.) It has = some tape cuts, though the sound quality is pretty good, and it fills a = 90-min tape. Whoever can amuse me the most gets the prize. - ------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01C013BE.07FB5640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've got a Tim Reynolds solo acoustic show from '96 = that I'm=20 just gonna give 'way on cassette. This is not the whole = show. (I got=20 the whole show from someone else, hence is why I'm giving this one = away.) =20 It has some tape cuts, though the sound quality is pretty good, and it = fills a=20 90-min tape. Whoever can amuse me the most gets the=20 prize.

- ------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01C013BE.07FB5640-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:24:53 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: George Russell Probably shouldn't even mention it, as these Bluebird discs are getting pretty darn hard to find, but their issue of _The George Russell Smalltet-Jazz Workshop_ is an incredible CD. Great lineup on the disc I have- Russel- arrangements and boobams (!), Hal McKusick- alto sax and flute, Bill Evans- piano, Barry Galbraith- guitar, Milt Hinton/Teddy Kotick- bass, Joe Harris/Paul Motain/Osie Johnson-drums. The music sounds like Mingus jumps into the Third Stream via Tristano. Amazing stuff. - -- =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:10:36 +0100 From: "Nick Chapman" Subject: Diamanda Galas This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C013F4.7DC9D0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick note to inform UK zornlist members that Diamanda Galas = performs at the Lowry Centre in Manchester on Fri 1st and Sat 2nd = September as part of the Queer Up North Festival. Further details from = their website. Thanks Nick http://www.queerupnorth.com/shows2.htm#diamanda=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C013F4.7DC9D0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just a quick note to inform UK zornlist = members=20 that Diamanda Galas performs at the Lowry Centre in Manchester on Fri = 1st and=20 Sat 2nd September as part of the Queer Up North Festival. = Further=20 details from their website.

Thanks

Nick

http://www.queerupnorth.com/shows2.htm#diamanda=20

- ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C013F4.7DC9D0A0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:17:40 +0200 From: "john rust" Subject: ICMC CD for trade (NZC) Is anyone interested in trading for the CD of the International Computer Music Conference 2000 which is currently finishing in Berlin? Please e-mail privately. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:11:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Emmanouil Papagiannakis Subject: NETWORK WDR catalogue Talking about the nice folk releases on this German label, check out PETRO-LOUKAS CHALKIAS one of the great Greek clatinet players, also strongly recommended by Chris Speed! And check www.zweitausendeins.de for on-line shopping at realy nice prices.(Don't forhet to buy Coltrane's 4CD live at the village for 52 DM!) manolis - ----------------------------------------------------------- E. Papagiannakis Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam tel: +31 20 4447934 Biophysics fax: +31 20 4447999 De Boelelaan 1081 1081 HV, Amsterdam The Netherlands - ----------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:14:14 GMT+0100 From: "Jeroen de Boer" Subject: RE: Comments on Raymond Scott? Scott is also featured on 'Ohm: the Early Gurus of Electronic Music' with a track that really is a forerunner of todays idm/electro-style type of music. I'm amazed time and again when listening to it. > It's a fascinating historical document that shows how Scott's > work ushered electronic music into commercials and popular culture. Jeroen - ---------------------------------------- Jeroen de Boer music director Open Electronic Festival/Cyberslag Foundation Munnekeholm 10, 9711JA Groningen The Netherlands tel/fax: +31 (0)503634676/(0)503632209 gsm: +31 (0)624814506 usva-th2@bureau.rug.nl http://www.cyberslag.com - ---------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 05:26:32 CDT From: "Lenny Barszap" Subject: Zorn Taping Policy? Does John Zorn allow taping? I'm going to the Birthday bash at Tonic on Saturday and would like to record it. I know a lot of live recordings exist, so... Lenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 08:01:13 -0400 From: stephen drury Subject: Re: George Russell At 11:57 PM 8/31/00 -0600, Aaron Solomon wrote: > I have >yet to be disappointed by any GR CD from this period (late 50's early 60's) >and I was wondering if anyone had anymore recommendations for GR CD's. ... I also was able >to check out the Lydian Chromatic Concept book from a local library but is >missing some sheet. My own feeling is that "Vertical Form VI" is George Russell's masterpiece; this feeling has only increased as I've gotten to know it from the inside, playing in one performance and then conducting a second. Don't know how to get George's book (try writing him for publisher info, c/o New England Conservatory, 290 Huntington, Boston, MA 02115) but I do know he's nearly finished with the second volume. - --steve check out the cool new stuff on http://www.stephendrury.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:31:32 EDT From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Masada Live In a message dated 8/31/00 6:08:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, leons@casema.net writes: << Hi All, I have a fairly simple question and I hope someone has an answer to it. I've been looking for a Masada-tourdates-scheme on the internet for ages, but I haven't been able to find one though. And now I was hoping that someone could help me out, because seeing Masada live would make me a very, very, very happy person .... I hope ;-) Thanks, bye and regards, Leon ps. Does any of you know whether Masada ever played in The Netherlands ? >> www.davedouglas.com Go to EVENTS good luck! Tom - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:10:25 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: Dead Reckoning > I've got an inexplicable urge to investigate the Grateful Dead, and I'd > like to know what recordings you recommend for getting started. As you > might expect, my own Dead collection at this point is minimal: John > Oswald's "Dark Star" pastiche 'Greyfolded' and the band's own improv > tapestry 'Infrared Roses,' plus one of the 'Dick's Picks' volumes > purchased this evening after hearing it over the weekend at a friend's > house. That's pretty funny, because the first two represent the extent of my Dead collection, plus a few MP3s. Also I have the Apocalypse Now Sessions by the Rhythm Devils, which I believe is some, if not all members of the Dead. It's pretty durn cool too. Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:18:46 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? > Raymond Scott:manhattan research inc. > > No doubt Raymond Scott is/was one of the most important people when it comes > down to anything connected with electronic music. this hefty compilation > collects unreleased material from the fifties/sixties ranging from tv > commercials to experiments.... Rs not only delivers the music, he also build > his own instruments as shown/written in the 144 page booklet accompagnying > this wonderfull release. Absolutelly essential for professors in > musichistories, analists, freakshows, and hip/trendy technoguys. this guy > showed the way for lots of us, including Kraftwerk, Motown, and probably > even some very young foetusses from The Wire... bloody recommended That's pretty much it. If you aren't familiar with Scott's work (though you are, indirectly, if you've watch any WB cartoons), he wrote such jazz band classics as Powerhouse, Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals, The Penguin, Toy Trumpet and so on. You'd probably recognize all of these if I played them for you. However, this is not that. He also was VERY big into electronic music and was quite hip on the concept of self-composing music machines. He created all sorts of large and bizarre machines that would "compose" away. While working on this stuff, he also ran a jingle agency and sold some of these to back commercials. This is a 2 CD collection of that sort of stuff. Some experiments, some interesting tunes, some electronic recreations of his classics, some archival "footage" and some commercials. Also, there's a nifty Nordine-ish collaboration between Scott and Jim Henson (of Muppets fame). The package is pretty and the liners are huge, complete and extremely well done. I personally found it quite like wandering through a museum. In fact, it was very much like a Smithsonian Recordings release. Also, with 2 CDs including some alternate takes, there's a little much audio for me. I could have condensed it to one CD of truly interesting stuff. However, if you are interested in Scott, electronic music, or interesting audio oddities, you can't do much better. I'm glad I have it, even though I don't listen to it as often as Blonde Redhead or Serge Gainsbourg. :) Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:29:18 -0400 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Thank you, thank you, thank you! (Louis Armstrong) To everyone who contributed to the Louis Armstrong thread a while back: I waited for the Legacy/Columbia box set, and I'm glad I did. So far I've only heard disc 1 (just bought it last night), and it's a pure pleasure. Sounds great, fantastic notes and packaging--sort of a CD-era echo of the big books 78s came in. Thanks to everyone for pushing me in the right direction. - -Maurice - -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 06:35:39 -0700 From: "s~Z" Subject: "No Zorn Attitude" http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0035/music-verlinde.shtml What exactly does 'no Zorn attitude' mean, now? Perhaps we should talk about Seattle attitude. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:35:43 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? > I enjoy Scott's quintet and big band work much more than his electronic. > His electronic music is innovative and fascinating in it's own right, but it > lacks the energy or charm of his acoustic works. Restless Nights and > Turkish Twilights is constantly in my CD player. I love the intricacy of > the music (especially solos). It blows my mind that it was all done in his > head or on the piano and then communicated to his band, never a written > note. It also angers me that Scott is rarely mentioned when cartoon music > is brought up. Stalling is seemingly the only major composer of such music, > but Scott did it first. Though Manhattan Research is a lot more palatable > than Soothing Sounds for Baby I still prefer his six man quintet. Another fantastic release this year (or was it last?) is the Big Band recordings... Ah... The Chesterfield Arrangements by the Metropole Orchestra. It's fantastic. Much thicker and deeper than his six man stuff or the Beau Hunks recreations. Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:39:22 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: CD storage shelves > I personally have 3 large wooden shelves (about 6' high), which fit > roughly 400 CDs each. I have found these types of shelves to be > readily available in my neck of the woods, and I find that they work > well. Certainly far better than keeping them in stacks on the floor. I just use these cheapie CD shelves I got from Damark, a cheapie mail order place (damark.com). They hold about 600 CDs, I think and I have three, which gives me ample room. They were about 100 bucks a piece. Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:41:19 -0400 From: "Ljova" Subject: RE: CD storage shelves I do not have the thousands of CDs that some of you have, but what I do have is this wonderful 300-CD spinner thing I bought @Tower Records. It puts 300 CDs conveniently away in a plastic tower. Those of you with floorspace might consider this handy option. Then, I have several wooden crates for other stuff, and yet another metalic tower for 100 more. Oh, and three rather tall piles. Thankfully, my mp3 directories are far better organized. :) Cheers, L - -------- Lev "Ljova" Zhurbin L@Ljova.com http://Ljova.com "Do not fear mistakes - there are none." -Miles Davis > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Peter Risser > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:39 AM > To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: CD storage shelves > > > > I personally have 3 large wooden shelves (about 6' high), which fit > > roughly 400 CDs each. I have found these types of shelves to be > > readily available in my neck of the woods, and I find that they work > > well. Certainly far better than keeping them in stacks on the floor. > > > I just use these cheapie CD shelves I got from Damark, a cheapie > mail order > place (damark.com). They hold about 600 CDs, I think and I have three, > which gives me ample room. > They were about 100 bucks a piece. > > Peter > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:45:02 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: Comments on Raymond Scott? > Scott is also featured on 'Ohm: the Early Gurus of Electronic Music' > with a track that really is a forerunner of todays idm/electro-style > type of music. I'm amazed time and again when listening to it. That track, Cindy Electronium, is on Manhattan Research as well. Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: 1 Sep 2000 07:22:46 -0700 From: Dan Given Subject: Re: For Alto > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:42:16 +0100 > From: Mike Chamberlain > Subject: Re: For Alto > Perhaps a stupid question--actually two--but was For Alto originally > released on Delmark? And how long has the album been out of print? 1) Yes 2) Depends on what you mean by out of print. I don't think Delmark has been pressing any vinyl for about 10 years at least, so probably that long minimum. When the last copies were actually made, I don't know. But For Alto hasn't been completely out of circulation. Cadence still had it for sale 3 or so years ago. A must have album. I was worried that it may turn out to be one of those legendary historical documents that is far more important for what it is -- the first solo sax album -- than for the music itself. Thankfully, I was wrong. Dan _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 10:27:55 -0400 From: Mike Chamberlain Subject: Re: For Alto Dan Given wrote:. > > A must have album. I was worried that it may turn out to be one of those legendary historical documents that is far more important for what it is -- the first solo sax album -- than for the music itself. Thankfully, I was wrong. > Thanks for the info, Dan. And I agree with the last point. I'd never heard it before the other day, and what a revelation. There are some absolutely beautiful moments, especially on the 5th and 6th tracks. - --Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 07:40:14 -0700 From: William Crump Subject: Re: CD storage shelves dmitry elentuck wrote: > Re: recent discussion about keeping one's record/CD collection organized: > > I'm looking for recommendations and retail sources for a relatively > sizeable (1500-2000) CD storage space, preferrably floor-standing shelves. What works really well for me are cheap 30" x 72" 5-shelf units, that I can get as cheap as $30 sometimes at that corporate satan, Wal-Mart. Then I cut 30" and 6" (approx.) lengths of 1 x 6 pine to set into each shelf, to make it a 10-shelf unit. Voila, you've got 25 linear feet of shelving for under $50. Small footprint in your music room, too. You don't even have to nail the pine sub-shelves together; the width of the CDs underneath and the weight of the CDs on top will hold them steady. Cheers, Wm. Crump - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #42 ****************************** To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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